Latest / Scam Goddess / Golf Queens & Scam Kings w/ Katherine Ryan
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Scal Come rob from Scam, Come robs from Godess what's pop?
- 0:20Speaker 1: And congregation, it's your girl.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Lacey Mosley aka Scam God, is back with another episode
- 0:24Speaker 2: of the comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud and those
- 0:27Speaker 2: who practice it. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them.
- 0:31Speaker 2: We'll see along the way. But you all out there, congregation,
- 0:35Speaker 2: I'm very what, yes, excited, thrilled. Today we have a
- 0:39Speaker 2: Canadian comedian, Come on, oh, writer, presenter and actress on
- 0:44Speaker 2: the show. You've seen her on Canada Scott Talent, serving
- 0:47Speaker 2: as a judge alongside Howie Mandel and Shanaia Twain. She's
- 0:50Speaker 2: also known for her two global Netflix comedy specials in
- 0:54Speaker 2: Trouble and Glitter Room, as well as Missus and Firstborn
- 0:58Speaker 2: Daughter for sky t and you certainly enjoy her on
- 1:02Speaker 2: Eight out of Ten Cats, A League of their Own, Yes,
- 1:05Speaker 2: What I Lie to You, The Duchess, Romantic Getaway and
- 1:07Speaker 2: so much more. Come on this Catherine me Working Congregation,
- 1:12Speaker 2: Please welcome Katherin Ryan to the show.
- 1:15Speaker 3: We are not used to credits. We don't do that
- 1:18Speaker 3: in the UK. So I'm Canadian, but I'm based in London,
- 1:21Speaker 3: England and we're just too embarrassed and you come to
- 1:23Speaker 3: America and you sound like this formidable person who's achieved
- 1:27Speaker 3: so much. I mean you have, I haven't really.
- 1:30Speaker 2: I appreciate your humility though, But I love this because
- 1:33Speaker 2: we always do credits here because people will obviously not
- 1:36Speaker 2: get enough of you, and then they'll be able to
- 1:38Speaker 2: go watch something that you're on or whatever. Yeah, but
- 1:41Speaker 2: sometimes credits are weird. I feel like it's stand up shows.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Credits can kind of be weird sometime. And it's also
- 1:46Speaker 2: weird if like somebody else comes up and they're like, oh,
- 1:48Speaker 2: you've seen them on Stranger Things and like every huge show,
- 1:53Speaker 2: and then the next person they're like, you've seen him
- 1:55Speaker 2: around town, he's on YouTube, Like I hated to be
- 2:00Speaker 2: around town, but coming up like in America, like stand
- 2:03Speaker 2: up sometimes he was around town and you got a
- 2:05Speaker 2: couple of credits and people are like, Okay, we'll listen
- 2:08Speaker 2: to you more.
- 2:08Speaker 1: I guess I know. It's a strange thing.
- 2:10Speaker 3: It's nice though. It makes you feel like very positive
- 2:13Speaker 3: coming here and.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Catherine, Oh, it's nice. I don't know about that, but
- 2:20Speaker 2: at the state of our country right now, very not.
- 2:23Speaker 2: I mean as a whole.
- 2:24Speaker 3: No, your pr is not great at the minute.
- 2:26Speaker 1: No, and has it ever really been well.
- 2:28Speaker 3: You've had better times and worse times. Yeah, the Obama
- 2:32Speaker 3: times were good times.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Yeah, that was our scam, Like Obama was still doing
- 2:35Speaker 1: war crimes. Obama but scam.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I mean, you just can't be the president of the
- 2:40Speaker 2: United States and not be a war criminal. That's kind
- 2:42Speaker 2: of our thing. Like, so you know, he was. He
- 2:44Speaker 2: had great speeches and great vibes and he did do
- 2:46Speaker 2: a lot of great stuff. I love the ACA.
- 2:48Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, when you sign up for that job,
- 2:50Speaker 1: it's like hit murderer.
- 2:53Speaker 2: You can be like, well, I want to murder less,
- 2:55Speaker 2: but it's like you still got a murdercy.
- 2:56Speaker 3: You've bought and you don't.
- 2:57Speaker 1: You know, there's a kind of a scam of it.
- 3:00Speaker 3: MP in the UK called Jess Phillips and she was
- 3:03Speaker 3: leader of the Labor Party. We didn't think the podcast
- 3:05Speaker 3: was going to go this direction. It'll be brief, but
- 3:08Speaker 3: she stepped down and I was like why because I
- 3:10Speaker 3: love Jess and she's so moral and she's just great.
- 3:15Speaker 3: But I think she stepped down because she learned once
- 3:17Speaker 3: she got to that position, like oh yeah, everybody's bought
- 3:21Speaker 3: like you can't do it in a good way.
- 3:23Speaker 2: No, because I think we always talk about the scam
- 3:26Speaker 2: of politicians and people have seen that viral meme that's like,
- 3:29Speaker 2: I wish politicians had to walk around with all their
- 3:31Speaker 2: sponsors on them like a NASCAR back, like who's bag
- 3:34Speaker 2: for you to be in office? So we just know
- 3:36Speaker 2: who you're bought by. But I mean that's a part
- 3:38Speaker 2: of the scam, and everybody's bought into it. We're like, well,
- 3:40Speaker 2: we just got to keep inchin along.
- 3:42Speaker 3: We opened with a scam so fast, Lacy.
- 3:45Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we do here. But I have
- 3:47Speaker 1: to ask you personally, what's your relationship with scams? You
- 3:49Speaker 1: love them? Do you hate them? I hadn't happen to
- 3:52Speaker 1: you or run any it could literally be anything.
- 3:54Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I'm currently being victimized by the greatest scam
- 3:59Speaker 3: in the universe, and that is motherhood. Oh yeah, such
- 4:02Speaker 3: a scam, a patriarchy scam. And you enter into it
- 4:05Speaker 3: and you think this is going to be existentially rewarding
- 4:07Speaker 3: for me, and I'll do half of the labor, and
- 4:10Speaker 3: my husband will also contribute, and even if he tries
- 4:15Speaker 3: a lot of it falls on the mom, especially a
- 4:17Speaker 3: working mom, and you can't have it all. And I
- 4:20Speaker 3: think that's really important message to get out. You can
- 4:22Speaker 3: have it all if like the all is Celluli resentment,
- 4:26Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
- 4:27Speaker 1: If you can have it all, but not at the
- 4:28Speaker 1: same exact time.
- 4:30Speaker 3: That's right.
- 4:30Speaker 2: It's like I got someone it all over here, and
- 4:32Speaker 2: the next year I'm I have someone this all and
- 4:34Speaker 2: that's it.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:35Speaker 2: I think we have to look at all as like
- 4:37Speaker 2: it's not all happening simultaneously.
- 4:40Speaker 3: No, And so I've had three kids in the last
- 4:44Speaker 3: five years, which is a choice that I made. I
- 4:46Speaker 3: don't know what I was thinking.
- 4:47Speaker 1: It's like a lot of unemployed roommates.
- 4:49Speaker 3: I do. Everyone in my house has been inside me.
- 4:53Speaker 3: I feel like it's some type of psychosis like long
- 4:56Speaker 3: COVID or something where I just went, I'm going to
- 4:59Speaker 3: breed now, and it's a scam.
- 5:02Speaker 1: I mean, how old are the children? What was the oldest?
- 5:04Speaker 3: Sixteen?
- 5:05Speaker 1: Okay, So we got somebody who can help out a
- 5:07Speaker 1: little bit.
- 5:08Speaker 3: And she's wonderful, and I really I love my children.
- 5:11Speaker 3: But I should have stopped there because I had one
- 5:13Speaker 3: chic daughter and she was portable and she was amazing,
- 5:16Speaker 3: and she was my best friend and we could do anything.
- 5:18Speaker 3: And then I was victimized by the other scam, which
- 5:21Speaker 3: is marriage. I reconnected with my high school boyfriend and
- 5:25Speaker 3: it was meant to be a one night stand, but
- 5:27Speaker 3: he really is a great guy. I fell in love
- 5:29Speaker 3: with him all over again. We were married nine months later,
- 5:32Speaker 3: and then I just was like, oh, another scam. I'm
- 5:35Speaker 3: forty or not. Now I'm forty two, but I was
- 5:37Speaker 3: around forty, and I think that women get this push
- 5:41Speaker 3: to be like, well, what are you gonna do. You're
- 5:43Speaker 3: gonna have kids or not? Your time's running out, And
- 5:45Speaker 3: instead of taking a breath and maybe having one more child,
- 5:50Speaker 3: I just went bananas with it and I had as
- 5:52Speaker 3: many as I could.
- 5:53Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I haven't gotten to that
- 5:55Speaker 2: age yet. But what I do hear from people is like,
- 5:59Speaker 2: especially black women's like, what are you gonna do?
- 6:00Speaker 1: Either have a kid or go to grad school. Go
- 6:03Speaker 1: to grad school, get another degree.
- 6:05Speaker 2: So I have a lot of friends who are black
- 6:07Speaker 2: women in their like late thirties of early forties who
- 6:10Speaker 2: were like, went back to grad school, just got another degree,
- 6:12Speaker 2: And I was like, for black women, it's like why,
- 6:15Speaker 2: But also, okay, now we got to you know, a
- 6:18Speaker 2: forensic accountant in the family, Like great, I love that.
- 6:21Speaker 2: But so back to you, like, so you have like
- 6:24Speaker 2: all these children. I mean, obviously you still maintained being
- 6:27Speaker 2: able to work so so much. I do think there
- 6:30Speaker 2: is a little bit of a scam of like everything
- 6:32Speaker 2: falling on the mother, like because I don't and I
- 6:36Speaker 2: don't want to shage your man.
- 6:37Speaker 1: I'm sure he's lovely, No, but I'm showing.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Down the rabbit hole of like intentional incompetence or weaponized
- 6:44Speaker 2: incompetence where it's like, oh, I could do this thing,
- 6:48Speaker 2: but the scam of it is that if I do
- 6:50Speaker 2: it really poorly, eventually you'll just stop asking me to
- 6:52Speaker 2: do it and then.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I'll you'll do it yourself.
- 6:54Speaker 2: Yeah, And sometimes I wonder with husbands if they're like
- 6:58Speaker 2: doing that on purpose.
- 7:00Speaker 1: It's like you you know how to do stuff, right.
- 7:02Speaker 3: There's a big conversation about weaponized incompetence in our house.
- 7:05Speaker 3: I'm the one doing that. So my husband's quite particular
- 7:09Speaker 3: about how the dishwasher is loaded and I just chuck
- 7:13Speaker 3: anything in like I don't mind. That's beautiful, Yeah, thank.
- 7:15Speaker 2: You and human and stem it's really I hope you're
- 7:18Speaker 2: just sitting in the place, like right on top of
- 7:20Speaker 2: all the little prongs that are setting up just like
- 7:22Speaker 2: a surface area flat.
- 7:24Speaker 1: That's it.
- 7:24Speaker 3: I'm a creative genius.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Actually.
- 7:26Speaker 3: So this is where they go. And he's always complaining
- 7:28Speaker 3: about having to clean the filter and I don't do
- 7:30Speaker 3: it properly. And now he's like, forget it, I'll do it.
- 7:32Speaker 1: I'll load the.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Dishwasher and now that's his job. So I've learned how
- 7:35Speaker 3: to be a man.
- 7:37Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Yeah, scam him back.
- 7:39Speaker 2: We know every man's a scam You sometimes you get
- 7:41Speaker 2: a good scam going. And I love those scam men
- 7:44Speaker 2: who are a real good scam men, but we got
- 7:47Speaker 2: to still scam them back.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Every man is a scam man.
- 7:49Speaker 3: So I asked my husband before coming here today, because
- 7:52Speaker 3: we are such fans of the podcast, what his relationship
- 7:55Speaker 3: is with scamming.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Oh, I'd love to know.
- 7:56Speaker 3: He told me about some bold scams. Like if he
- 7:58Speaker 3: had told me this pre wedding day, I might have
- 8:01Speaker 3: reconsidered so one of the scams that my husband runs.
- 8:04Speaker 3: And this is pathetic because.
- 8:06Speaker 1: I don't know it sounds good to be so far.
- 8:09Speaker 3: He and his friends what they like to do is
- 8:12Speaker 3: turn up at a drive through and they'll say, oh,
- 8:15Speaker 3: by the way, like, we were here yesterday and we
- 8:18Speaker 3: ordered three cheeseburgers and four fries, and we only got
- 8:21Speaker 3: one fry and two cheeseburgers. And every single time they'll
- 8:24Speaker 3: give him what he counts as like a free cheeseburger
- 8:28Speaker 3: and the replacement fries. So he'll pretend that items have
- 8:31Speaker 3: been missing on an order just to get a free order.
- 8:33Speaker 3: And I said, why would you do that? And he says,
- 8:34Speaker 3: for the thrill of the chase.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, she said it for the I love
- 8:37Speaker 1: of your husband. He said it for the love of
- 8:38Speaker 1: the game.
- 8:38Speaker 3: The love of the game. And then in university he
- 8:42Speaker 3: hadn't even wilder. These are all like drive through based scams.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Then, and you know what, you got to be mobile.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's the great way, the best way to scam,
- 8:50Speaker 2: that's all. I'm like, don't give people money if they're
- 8:52Speaker 2: on a motorcycle, they too mobile, You're not getting it.
- 8:55Speaker 1: So the other one.
- 8:56Speaker 3: Is he would get one of his friends to exit
- 8:59Speaker 3: the vehicle, and then he and his remaining friend would
- 9:03Speaker 3: approach the drive through window in the vehicle, they make
- 9:05Speaker 3: their order. They would then go to collect at the
- 9:08Speaker 3: next window, and the friend who had exited the vehicle
- 9:11Speaker 3: would just run by and take the order, Like just
- 9:16Speaker 3: just as the woman is handing it out the window,
- 9:20Speaker 3: he just fly.
- 9:21Speaker 1: By, Okay, yours. But it is very unseerious and I
- 9:26Speaker 1: love it. I love it because he'll think.
- 9:28Speaker 3: Some of this exactly my thoughts. Like this crazed man
- 9:32Speaker 3: just runs between the car and the drive through and
- 9:35Speaker 3: takes it, and then everybody goes, what what just happened?
- 9:37Speaker 2: What?
- 9:38Speaker 3: And then they'll replace the order and then they get
- 9:41Speaker 3: double of everything. He comes around the corner and picks
- 9:43Speaker 3: up his friend again with the stolen Like.
- 9:46Speaker 1: What I mean, I want to know.
- 9:49Speaker 2: I need to study your husband's brain because the activities
- 9:52Speaker 2: that are.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Going on in here are just hilarious to me.
- 9:55Speaker 2: I've actually never heard of someone doing this kind of
- 9:57Speaker 2: elaborate play where they're like, okay, you can out, and
- 10:00Speaker 2: then you run past, and I.
- 10:01Speaker 1: Hope he's in costume.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I hope he's got on like some some rags or
- 10:04Speaker 2: nobody's like screaming and hollering when he steals the bag.
- 10:07Speaker 2: And then your husband is the getaway driver. Yeah, feels
- 10:10Speaker 2: very mobile.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Very this is also giving me is this a white man?
- 10:14Speaker 3: He is very white, young?
- 10:15Speaker 1: Yeah? Is it tall? Yeah, he's not sure. He got
- 10:19Speaker 1: a long neck, No, he's he.
- 10:21Speaker 2: In the car. It's gonna you know, it's gonna appear like, yeah,
- 10:25Speaker 2: it's giving me a tractive white man who was like, hey,
- 10:27Speaker 2: I'm so sorry to do this, but he came here
- 10:30Speaker 2: yesterday and yeah, we all got two of the four
- 10:32Speaker 2: burgers that we ordered, and we love this place.
- 10:34Speaker 1: We would love to continue coming back, like slight little threats.
- 10:38Speaker 3: So it is giving white man. Yeah, he's like, life's
- 10:40Speaker 3: been too easy for me. How can I shake things up?
- 10:42Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's exciting. But I like that he did
- 10:44Speaker 1: it in a way that is.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Like, you know, you have like the white people who
- 10:48Speaker 2: like they're scared of every minority. They're scared of every
- 10:51Speaker 2: you know, they don't clutch the person everybody's elevator, but
- 10:54Speaker 2: then they're also gonna climb evers and I'm like that
- 10:57Speaker 2: makes no sense to me, Like you should have a
- 10:59Speaker 2: fear of one of the other. So I like that
- 11:02Speaker 2: he was like, this is my thrill. It's like I'm
- 11:03Speaker 2: going to do elaborate drive through schemes and the tackle
- 11:06Speaker 2: bill you would be. Yep, that's exactly what I pictured handsome. Yes,
- 11:12Speaker 2: he getting away with all the scams. Yeah, they're probably
- 11:15Speaker 2: thrown it a little extra just cause.
- 11:16Speaker 3: He is a tender swindler for sure.
- 11:18Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a fun guy. I can tell. Oh, this
- 11:21Speaker 2: is so everybody's so creative. I'm so glad that he
- 11:24Speaker 2: like allowed you to share that on the show with us.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Only had a little pre production meeting before I came.
- 11:30Speaker 1: He's not out here, is he Like, I'm gonna I'm
- 11:32Speaker 1: gonna walk out and you never know.
- 11:34Speaker 3: Clutch your bag tightly.
- 11:36Speaker 2: I know, y'all, y'all hold onto the tapes the best.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Because they would let him in here, he could just
- 11:41Speaker 2: be like, oh, you're on business. They wouldn't ask what business?
- 11:44Speaker 3: No, No, white man business.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Yeah, white man business.
- 11:46Speaker 3: They'd be like, of course, of course you would hate
- 11:48Speaker 3: England because the poshest people, aka the whitest colonizers there
- 11:54Speaker 3: they do all kinds of terrifying things like you're saying,
- 11:57Speaker 3: like they do climb overest, they ski lesslie, Yeah, they hunt,
- 12:01Speaker 3: They do the most dangerous things because they have no
- 12:04Speaker 3: natural predators.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Once you're the apex, it's like, what am I gonna
- 12:09Speaker 2: do exactly. I need a little thrill up my leg.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Why don't we all drink whiskey and go out to
- 12:14Speaker 2: the woods with them?
- 12:16Speaker 1: What could go wrong? Yes, I mean I love it.
- 12:19Speaker 2: I mean I lived in London for a little while,
- 12:20Speaker 2: and I did not technically I lived in the suburbs
- 12:23Speaker 2: of London.
- 12:24Speaker 1: I lived in even Broadway.
- 12:25Speaker 2: I worked in Camden, so nice commute every day. But
- 12:29Speaker 2: this was in college and I worked at Camden People's
- 12:32Speaker 2: Theater and I had a mentor there. Her name was Freya,
- 12:38Speaker 2: and she was like very very focused on marrying outside
- 12:40Speaker 2: of her class. And I guess she had married. She
- 12:42Speaker 2: was dating some guy seriously who was like very posh,
- 12:46Speaker 2: and so she would work on her accent every day literally,
- 12:51Speaker 2: and she was British, but she knew her accent came
- 12:53Speaker 2: from a different neighborhood, so she yeah, and she wanted
- 12:59Speaker 2: to talk more. I was like, okay, what is it
- 13:02Speaker 2: more like? And I was listening, like trying to learn too,
- 13:04Speaker 2: but she was always practicing her British accent. And then
- 13:07Speaker 2: after a while she just stopped coming to work and
- 13:09Speaker 2: I was just running the theater by myself. I was
- 13:11Speaker 2: twenty years old. She just stopped coming to work, and
- 13:13Speaker 2: I was like, bro, like you can't. Like people would
- 13:15Speaker 2: call me and be like, hey, we need this bill.
- 13:18Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm American.
- 13:19Speaker 2: I don't know how to pay out, Like I don't know,
- 13:21Speaker 2: shut the lives out, fight me, Like what.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Do you want me to do?
- 13:23Speaker 2: But I was just still running the theater for like
- 13:25Speaker 2: a good month while she was gallivanting.
- 13:29Speaker 3: I suppose, gallivanting with this posh man. See, it's tricky
- 13:32Speaker 3: because obviously there's racism here, and there's very much racism
- 13:36Speaker 3: in England, but they've also got this extra layer of classism.
- 13:39Speaker 3: And growing up in Canada, we didn't have that. Like
- 13:41Speaker 3: everyone some people had money, some people didn't, but we
- 13:44Speaker 3: had no aristocracy obviously, and they really divide themselves even
- 13:50Speaker 3: more in England because they're like, well, I'm working class
- 13:52Speaker 3: and she's posh. And then it was weird to get
- 13:55Speaker 3: my head around when I first moved there.
- 13:57Speaker 2: It also but that's such a scam to me too,
- 13:59Speaker 2: because like old money and new money, like maybe it's
- 14:01Speaker 2: still money, it's all green.
- 14:03Speaker 1: They're liked, we go back to Da da Da Da.
- 14:05Speaker 2: I'm like, so you're telling me your famili's in sessions
- 14:07Speaker 2: probably like what is that a flex? Like yo, your
- 14:11Speaker 2: cousin's be getting get married, Like I don't care, but
- 14:14Speaker 2: it is nice how people are always trying to make
- 14:16Speaker 2: some kind of distinction between the classes. Like I remember
- 14:20Speaker 2: when like logos and stuff were like really popular amongst
- 14:23Speaker 2: like upper class like rich people, like old money, and
- 14:26Speaker 2: you would see a Gucci labeler you would see like
- 14:28Speaker 2: a Prada label or whatever.
- 14:30Speaker 1: And then once like the middle class starts.
- 14:32Speaker 2: To be able to have access to that, they say,
- 14:34Speaker 2: all that shit is get ill, thought that it away,
- 14:35Speaker 2: throw it away. We're doing quiet luxury. Now we're doing
- 14:38Speaker 2: five thousand dollars white tea's and if.
- 14:41Speaker 1: You know, you know no.
- 14:43Speaker 2: But I do like delving into the class warfare sometimes
- 14:46Speaker 2: because it's such a scam and like how you can't
- 14:48Speaker 2: ascend from one rink to the other. And I mean,
- 14:52Speaker 2: but whatever it takes for people to feel good about themselves,
- 14:54Speaker 2: I guess. I mean that's why like so many people
- 14:57Speaker 2: who are you know, don't like a lot of money
- 14:59Speaker 2: or like we're religious and pious.
- 15:01Speaker 1: It's something I'll follow the rules of the Bible.
- 15:03Speaker 2: But they like to talk about it because they're like, well,
- 15:05Speaker 2: I'm rich in Jesus. So I'm better than you because
- 15:08Speaker 2: I got sky Daddy on my side. So sky Daddy
- 15:11Speaker 2: don't care about your man account.
- 15:12Speaker 3: Sky Daddy. I've never called him sky Daddy, and I'm going.
- 15:15Speaker 1: To start he should Skydaddy that.
- 15:18Speaker 2: And when I say people are trying to kill me
- 15:19Speaker 2: and be like they're trying to introduce me.
- 15:21Speaker 3: To Jesus, trying to introduce me to sky Dad. Scared God.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Let's get into my favorite segment of this podcast, historic Hoodwing.
- 15:34Speaker 2: So this is where I will regale you with a
- 15:37Speaker 2: famous con caper or group of criminals.
- 15:40Speaker 1: If you will see if you like them along the way, Kett,
- 15:43Speaker 1: you maybe hate them.
- 15:43Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, let's get your opinions. So
- 15:47Speaker 2: today we're going to be in the world of women's
- 15:49Speaker 2: professional golf.
- 15:51Speaker 3: WHOA what a world?
- 15:53Speaker 1: Yeah, a world that.
- 15:54Speaker 2: I don't know a ton about, but I hope it
- 15:57Speaker 2: gets the WNBA treatment it deserves. It does because like
- 16:01Speaker 2: I personally, I love going to WNBA games. The only
- 16:04Speaker 2: bad thing about them starting to get more recognition is
- 16:07Speaker 2: that like I used to be able to get course,
- 16:09Speaker 2: I seas to liberty and it was like I was
- 16:11Speaker 2: tricking off and it was nothing.
- 16:14Speaker 1: Now the prices are going, you should be.
- 16:16Speaker 3: Very anti women's basketball, then you should take it down
- 16:20Speaker 3: as I love hate.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Them less, yeah, and broadcast them no more. They're like,
- 16:26Speaker 2: why she she's always in every game, but she's very
- 16:29Speaker 2: anti this.
- 16:29Speaker 3: Sport for someone who hates it, she loves it.
- 16:33Speaker 1: She loves it.
- 16:34Speaker 2: I mean this' most haters is you just love something
- 16:36Speaker 2: in the opposite way, because why you're so dedicated to
- 16:38Speaker 2: hating it?
- 16:39Speaker 3: True?
- 16:40Speaker 2: So once I learned that, did that ever help you?
- 16:43Speaker 2: Like learning the scam of like people hating me? Also,
- 16:46Speaker 2: just being a fan really helped a lot.
- 16:48Speaker 3: I think Cardi B has really been transformative in that
- 16:51Speaker 3: respect because she's well, I always had like quite thick skin.
- 16:57Speaker 3: I was impervious to criticism. I think as a lot
- 16:59Speaker 3: of us, if we go into comedy, you have to
- 17:01Speaker 3: have that innately anyway. But she's the first one who
- 17:04Speaker 3: really put it out, being like, you're obsessed with me,
- 17:06Speaker 3: I would like feed it and I love it just
- 17:09Speaker 3: it she does.
- 17:10Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, I like that. So I mean, like
- 17:13Speaker 2: women's golf, obviously, I mean I don't know about it.
- 17:16Speaker 2: I'm not going to presume how much you know about
- 17:18Speaker 2: women's golf. I mean I had heard of some pro golfers.
- 17:22Speaker 2: The only one I knew who was like trying to
- 17:24Speaker 2: get into the sport was like Trump's granddaughter, and I
- 17:27Speaker 2: know that against my will.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Oh right, I didn't want to know that.
- 17:31Speaker 2: No, but so there's some scammers now impersonating hot lady
- 17:37Speaker 2: pro golfers like world number two player Nellie Korda, and
- 17:42Speaker 2: they're putting the fans and real athletes in danger.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Ooh is this Nelly?
- 17:47Speaker 3: So wait a minute, is this a scam impersonation or
- 17:49Speaker 3: this is her?
- 17:50Speaker 1: So this is the real Nelly and she is a baddie?
- 17:52Speaker 2: Wait?
- 17:53Speaker 1: Can we zoom in a little bit more? Is this sports?
- 17:55Speaker 3: She looks great? Isn't it funny being a woman? We
- 17:57Speaker 3: can be like, can you zoom in on that body?
- 18:00Speaker 1: I'm looking?
- 18:00Speaker 2: Respectfully, I did not know female golfers than it looked
- 18:03Speaker 2: like that, like with respect to the lesbian community.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that.
- 18:08Speaker 3: It was more of a mask sport for women.
- 18:12Speaker 1: I mean it can be.
- 18:13Speaker 2: I feel like it's like basketball, Like you got your
- 18:15Speaker 2: baddies and basketball, but you also have your like more
- 18:18Speaker 2: kind of butch queens and basketball. I mean, look, another
- 18:22Speaker 2: reason why I love women's basketball because sometimes they be
- 18:24Speaker 2: dating and they be on opposite teams, and I'm like,
- 18:26Speaker 2: oh my god, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. So
- 18:30Speaker 2: I mean I hope that they're doing that in golf too.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Y'all get together, y'all start. I want to see like
- 18:34Speaker 2: a fight. Why do we never want that with men?
- 18:37Speaker 3: No?
- 18:38Speaker 2: I would love to see like old golf dudes fight
- 18:40Speaker 2: as well. I think it'na be the slowest fight ever,
- 18:42Speaker 2: but really enjoyable and quiet.
- 18:43Speaker 3: I'll tell you my husband golf's relentlessly. My dad does
- 18:47Speaker 3: do golfs and golf and golfs all right. So you're
- 18:49Speaker 3: in the golf world, oh very much.
- 18:52Speaker 1: So I got my first set of pings when I
- 18:53Speaker 1: was eight.
- 18:54Speaker 3: And did your dad try to make you a good
- 18:56Speaker 3: golfer because he told you it was the language of business. Yes,
- 18:59Speaker 3: And you know he wasn't wrong because imagine the scholarships
- 19:01Speaker 3: you could have if you had pursued golf. So did
- 19:04Speaker 3: you not like it or you weren't good or both?
- 19:05Speaker 2: I didn't particularly enjoy it. I never really applied myself.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Had I liked the golf clubs because they had hot
- 19:11Speaker 2: pink candles. Yeah, And I liked driving the golf cart,
- 19:14Speaker 2: and my dad quickly saw that I was not interested
- 19:17Speaker 2: in this. I'd be more likely to pick up the
- 19:18Speaker 2: golf club and start singing into it and then so like,
- 19:21Speaker 2: actually be serious about it. And I know that probably
- 19:23Speaker 2: bumped him out, that neither of his girl's golf.
- 19:26Speaker 3: But imagine if you could, in addition to all the
- 19:28Speaker 3: other things you do, wouldn't it be cool? Like I
- 19:30Speaker 3: think it's bad as to be a female golfer who's
- 19:33Speaker 3: actually good, because it would silence men. Yeah, And I
- 19:36Speaker 3: have seen a lot of clips online of women who
- 19:39Speaker 3: are at the driving range, and just by being a
- 19:42Speaker 3: woman on this earth, it signals a man to come
- 19:44Speaker 3: and teach you what you're.
- 19:45Speaker 1: Doing, try to get behind you and be like movie.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Hips this play yeah square And these are professional golfers
- 19:51Speaker 2: who are much better.
- 19:52Speaker 3: And then they watch a few swings and they go, oh, okay.
- 19:54Speaker 3: But what I was gonna say about my husband, just
- 19:55Speaker 3: a little gossip for you. Watch your husband's watch your
- 19:58Speaker 3: dad when he's golfing. My husband started getting on with
- 20:01Speaker 3: this other golfer in the neighborhood. And you know how
- 20:03Speaker 3: they can't really golf alone that much. They do for
- 20:05Speaker 3: them whatever, and then his friend was all over the press.
- 20:09Speaker 3: He's actually a British swimmer in England, Olympic swimmer. Maybe
- 20:12Speaker 3: I'm not sure he's got a public profile because and
- 20:16Speaker 3: I think this is very mean of the British tabloid press.
- 20:19Speaker 3: But they followed him and they realized that near the
- 20:23Speaker 3: golf course he was dogging. Are you familiar with the
- 20:26Speaker 3: term dogging in America? No, it means having sex in
- 20:30Speaker 3: the woods with other men.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Oh, it doesn't always have to be other men.
- 20:34Speaker 3: We call him like cruising cruising.
- 20:36Speaker 1: Oh, yes, force cruising.
- 20:38Speaker 3: And so Bobby doesn't golf with him anymore. But golf
- 20:40Speaker 3: is more heated rivalry than you know, like, oh, of course,
- 20:43Speaker 3: I mean.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Men don't want to just hang out with other men
- 20:45Speaker 1: all this, which I love that for you. I love
- 20:47Speaker 1: that for you, be bisexual, be gay, going in the woods,
- 20:50Speaker 1: I guess, and do what you need to do. But
- 20:54Speaker 1: but I mean.
- 20:54Speaker 2: Also, like I'm trying to imagine like how your husband's like,
- 20:57Speaker 2: he was like, all right, we're headed to the next team,
- 21:00Speaker 2: and he's like, hold on, I'm I'm gonna be right back.
- 21:03Speaker 1: Y'all. Tee off, y'all, tee off. I'm gonna just go
- 21:04Speaker 1: to the woods real quick.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Eighteen holes not enough, right, No, he's in nineteenth hole right,
- 21:10Speaker 2: Or maybe my husband was involved.
- 21:12Speaker 3: Maybe that is the true scam. Start with the drive through.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Now, your husband's too handsome.
- 21:17Speaker 2: If he was involved, somebody would have got some pictures
- 21:19Speaker 2: of him, then, yeah, they would have got you.
- 21:21Speaker 1: They took you right down with him.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, your face would have been there.
- 21:25Speaker 3: Like I would love that Catherine Ryan is married to
- 21:29Speaker 3: a gay man. It was kind of my destiny.
- 21:31Speaker 1: I feel like it is.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Mine though, Like I've dated way too many gay and
- 21:35Speaker 2: now I'm vacation with them.
- 21:36Speaker 1: Why do their friends?
- 21:37Speaker 3: Why did they scam us? Because we're daevas, that's true.
- 21:40Speaker 2: I mean we got to take a picture so people
- 21:41Speaker 2: can see this fabulous outfit. Like, yes, I see it,
- 21:45Speaker 2: I see why.
- 21:46Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
- 21:47Speaker 2: But so we had this beautiful woman, right, we got
- 21:50Speaker 2: Nelly Korda. And golf is for the hotties now, so
- 21:53Speaker 2: like you were just saying, Katherine, like we didn't know,
- 21:54Speaker 2: but golf is for the hotty. White granddads used to say,
- 21:58Speaker 2: the letters in golf stand for gentlemen only, Ladies forbidden.
- 22:02Speaker 2: Whoa not Female Woman Haters Club. Okay, so since the
- 22:08Speaker 2: modern game was invented in Scotland in the fourteen hundreds,
- 22:11Speaker 2: it's been mostly older guys and they've been out there
- 22:14Speaker 2: stroking it on the green.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, whatever way they're stroking it.
- 22:18Speaker 2: But it started in the nineteen but starting in like
- 22:21Speaker 2: the nineteen fifties, US women got to play in their
- 22:24Speaker 2: own version of pro golf, like in the league. Over
- 22:27Speaker 2: the last thirty years, it's become a hot girl sport
- 22:30Speaker 2: thanks to pioneering young female players like Michelle Wee who's
- 22:34Speaker 2: who like went pro at fifteen years old.
- 22:36Speaker 1: I feel like I remember Michelle Do you know her?
- 22:38Speaker 2: Yeah, in two thousand and five with sponsorships from Nike, Sony,
- 22:42Speaker 2: Omega Top Golf, and she opened in the US in
- 22:45Speaker 2: two thousand and five.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Can I say, is it necessary for them to use
- 22:49Speaker 3: a photo of her on her knees for this segment?
- 22:52Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying?
- 22:54Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 22:54Speaker 1: What photo?
- 22:55Speaker 3: They're like, let's get Michelle Weie on her knees. How
- 22:57Speaker 3: often is a golfer on their knees?
- 22:59Speaker 2: I mean when they're she's probably about the putt, of course,
- 23:02Speaker 2: but you gotta put her in her hand. Do we
- 23:03Speaker 2: see tiger woods in that pose? There's it's almost like
- 23:06Speaker 2: a paparazzi, But this does feel like it's like her
- 23:09Speaker 2: booty look good and her legs look yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:11Speaker 3: It's like an upskirt shot getting out of the top.
- 23:14Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit.
- 23:16Speaker 2: But I will say, as a certified car carrying Hucci,
- 23:19Speaker 2: I would want them to have that photo of me.
- 23:20Speaker 2: I'd be like, yes, look at me, batty, But you're right,
- 23:23Speaker 2: look at this one. This even her skirt is like
- 23:25Speaker 2: a little who But at the same time, I'm like,
- 23:29Speaker 2: you gotta.
- 23:29Speaker 1: Do work what you gat.
- 23:31Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm not too mad at it, ladies, but
- 23:35Speaker 2: so like you know, Moschelle, we got it popping off.
- 23:38Speaker 2: She has all these sponsorships. She opened in the US
- 23:41Speaker 2: in two thousand and five, and then the rise of
- 23:43Speaker 2: cute golf at leisure outfits like happened in twenty twenty three.
- 23:47Speaker 2: And I remember that because it was like the golf
- 23:49Speaker 2: at leisure outfits, and then most recently we had the
- 23:52Speaker 2: tennis ath leisure outfits.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Flow up.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Okay, you think I'm getting on everybody's court the way
- 23:56Speaker 2: I got tennis skirts and like little collared sleepless.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Sure, tennis is cute. Tennis is so cute.
- 24:02Speaker 3: We used to have parties in high school themed golf
- 24:05Speaker 3: pros and tennis hos.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Wow.
- 24:06Speaker 2: I did that in college CEOs and corporate home wow.
- 24:10Speaker 1: But y'all were ahead of the time doing it in
- 24:11Speaker 1: high school.
- 24:12Speaker 2: Yes, I love a golf pros andis house. This sounds
- 24:17Speaker 2: very Canada.
- 24:17Speaker 3: Yeah it was.
- 24:19Speaker 2: It was like holes hoos, holes hose.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Yeah. We got up to it young. We're from a
- 24:26Speaker 3: small town, so okay.
- 24:27Speaker 1: So that's all there was to do, was to you know,
- 24:30Speaker 1: hang out with the homies.
- 24:31Speaker 3: And I'm older, so we were hoeing a lot younger
- 24:35Speaker 3: than the young women are choosing to hoe now.
- 24:37Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all got freedoms that we didn't too, because like
- 24:41Speaker 2: parents used to just like let your kids, oh, we're
- 24:42Speaker 2: going over so much, how's house and then like come
- 24:44Speaker 2: back whenever.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Okay.
- 24:45Speaker 2: See then, like I was very monitored. I didn't get
- 24:49Speaker 2: to really party in high school, but in college, no,
- 24:51Speaker 2: I made up for lost time for sure. But I
- 24:54Speaker 2: love that. So a round of eighteen holes of golf
- 24:58Speaker 2: does count as a girl walk now, which it should,
- 25:01Speaker 2: especially like if you're caddying or you have someone caddying
- 25:04Speaker 2: for you. Like, if you're using a golf cart, it's
- 25:07Speaker 2: not that much exercise, but if you're walking.
- 25:09Speaker 1: The green, it's fairy intense.
- 25:11Speaker 3: It's walking for like four or five hours.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Yeah, in the hot ass sun. I always wanted to
- 25:16Speaker 2: be a cart girl at one point. I thought that'd
- 25:19Speaker 2: be a nice little scam, just like mixed strengths and
- 25:21Speaker 2: drive around.
- 25:22Speaker 3: It's a great scam. I think you get tipped. Yeah,
- 25:25Speaker 3: and you could really like work it with these old
- 25:27Speaker 3: men who are golfing and just drive around and drink lemonade.
- 25:31Speaker 1: That's all I'm trying to do, and then just be
- 25:33Speaker 1: somebody's like personal assistant.
- 25:35Speaker 3: I wonder if the boys are excited about this hot
- 25:39Speaker 3: female inclusion in their sport, or if they feel threatened
- 25:42Speaker 3: by it, if they feel undermined, if it bothers them
- 25:45Speaker 3: that they're like holy man placed. Presumably fucking the woods
- 25:49Speaker 3: has been ruined.
- 25:50Speaker 2: Yeah, oh right, because not Well theicka bab just didn't
- 25:53Speaker 2: know and they're gonna get caught now.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Yeah, they gotta go to the show like the Real Gaze.
- 25:59Speaker 3: That's so.
- 26:00Speaker 1: But it's interesting to me because I feel like it's twofold.
- 26:03Speaker 2: Obviously, you're gonna have like your weird misogynists who are like, ooh,
- 26:06Speaker 2: this hottail.
- 26:07Speaker 1: On the green now, and you know, and they're gonna.
- 26:10Speaker 2: Be like, oh, we hope you can golf as good
- 26:12Speaker 2: as you look, because oh my god, I used to
- 26:13Speaker 2: get that from comedians. Comedians now that me and my
- 26:15Speaker 2: dms congratulate me like I hope you were as funny
- 26:17Speaker 2: as you are cute, like what, get out of my face,
- 26:20Speaker 2: I'm funny with you. But I feel like there's gonna
- 26:23Speaker 2: be those types of people who are gonna be like
- 26:24Speaker 2: the misogynist kind of chasing them, and there's the other
- 26:26Speaker 2: side of the misogyny. It's gonna be like this was
- 26:28Speaker 2: for our men, like you were saying, like this is
- 26:29Speaker 2: where we go do our woods activities like get out
- 26:32Speaker 2: of here women. Either way, obviously those aren't both. Neither
- 26:36Speaker 2: of those are positive responses for the women. But at
- 26:40Speaker 2: the same time, I always kind of wonder how many
- 26:43Speaker 2: golfers are actually good at golf, or how many of
- 26:47Speaker 2: them just like to go out and have a drink
- 26:49Speaker 2: with the boys and it just hit balls and shirk them.
- 26:52Speaker 2: And I know, because I can't all be good as
- 26:55Speaker 2: many guys that I know who golf like. I've golfed
- 26:58Speaker 2: with my dad. I know it's handicap. I know you
- 26:59Speaker 2: actual pretty decent.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Oh god, I want to say just something low. Yeah,
- 27:06Speaker 1: I mean I want to say nine.
- 27:08Speaker 3: Yeah, that is very good.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Yeah, that's decent. I mean he's in the sixties.
- 27:12Speaker 3: But I think if you work all week and then
- 27:15Speaker 3: you have the weekend to spend with your wife and
- 27:17Speaker 3: your family, presuming you have that, and instead you choose
- 27:21Speaker 3: to walk around in the sun for five hours, then
- 27:24Speaker 3: you're just killing time. We just want to get away
- 27:25Speaker 3: from people.
- 27:26Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know.
- 27:28Speaker 3: Like my husband, I think his mental health depends on
- 27:32Speaker 3: being able to golf, like being able to do a sport.
- 27:35Speaker 3: I think also, men don't really talk to each other, right,
- 27:38Speaker 3: and so they need to be doing an activity parallel, right,
- 27:42Speaker 3: and they're not making eye contact. They're just kind of walking.
- 27:45Speaker 3: And at some point in the five hours, someone will
- 27:48Speaker 3: be like, by the way, I'm getting divorced. And that's
- 27:50Speaker 3: the only way you get it out of them, because
- 27:53Speaker 3: they're not ready for like face to face discussion.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Like a woman.
- 27:56Speaker 2: You'll come over, you'll have like girls around, You'll tell
- 27:59Speaker 2: them everything easily.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Just like over coffee or whatever.
- 28:01Speaker 1: I offer talk a job, that's anything. Guys are like, yeah,
- 28:06Speaker 1: my dad's terminal.
- 28:07Speaker 3: Four, right, Like you got to distract them with athletics. Yes,
- 28:12Speaker 3: it's difficult to have those chats on a basketball court.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.
- 28:15Speaker 2: I mean, although they will talk shit and they'll have
- 28:16Speaker 2: their little brig or when they're wiping their little sweat,
- 28:19Speaker 2: they'd be like, so, how's the kid, how's family? You know,
- 28:21Speaker 2: and that's when they do my wife's divorcing me thing.
- 28:23Speaker 2: Oh shit, man, Yeah, you're absolutely right. We can just
- 28:26Speaker 2: sit down and talk. We can literally go somewhere with
- 28:29Speaker 2: the intention of catching up. They have to be like, no,
- 28:32Speaker 2: that's for women.
- 28:34Speaker 1: We will just hint.
- 28:35Speaker 2: We got a sword fight for a little bit before
- 28:37Speaker 2: we start catching up. Oh yeah, racquetball. They love raquetball too.
- 28:42Speaker 2: That's a big one for them to catch up. So
- 28:45Speaker 2: classic social media bait and switch is going to happen here.
- 28:48Speaker 2: So we got the hot girls on the course. They're
- 28:49Speaker 2: revolutionizing the sport. We love this for them. So where
- 28:54Speaker 2: there are hotties, there are catfish pretending to be them,
- 28:58Speaker 2: and women's pro gone off is ground zero for aposter
- 29:02Speaker 2: counts online whoa. Now the women just got into pro goff.
- 29:07Speaker 2: You are already trying to scam them. That's not right.
- 29:09Speaker 3: So what are they doing? People are posing as pro golfers.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:13Speaker 2: So let's say an older man enjoys the sport of
- 29:15Speaker 2: golf and is looking for an attractive woman.
- 29:18Speaker 1: See I told you that it was gonna be creeps.
- 29:20Speaker 2: So he's a fan of a good looking player like
- 29:24Speaker 2: Nelly Korda and he comments looking good smiley face on
- 29:29Speaker 2: her verified Instagram account. Right, and so the smiley face
- 29:34Speaker 2: I have to know is a colon and then a parentheses. Yes,
- 29:39Speaker 2: not an emoji. No elderly smiley elderly smiley face. Yeah,
- 29:43Speaker 2: like you notice smiley faces.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Get the balls are.
- 29:46Speaker 2: Hanging low on that smiley face. So wow, that was
- 29:50Speaker 2: like unnecessarily graphic. So I think I'm out of sex
- 29:54Speaker 2: in the city where Sabetha was dating that old guy
- 29:55Speaker 2: and then he like gets up from the bed and
- 29:57Speaker 2: his butts like all sacks.
- 29:59Speaker 1: Oh. Like she was like, no, I can do this.
- 30:01Speaker 1: And when he gets up at naked and she was like,
- 30:04Speaker 1: I'm out. I have to go.
- 30:06Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a golf butt.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Golf butt, definitely a golf butt. So once the guy
- 30:12Speaker 2: you know hits on Nelly's real page and it's like, hey, Baddy,
- 30:15Speaker 2: looking good. He's gonna get flooded with replies from Nelly
- 30:20Speaker 2: quorda official sixty three and Nelly quarda fan page two
- 30:25Speaker 2: and love Nellie six Dinnett telling him that they are
- 30:29Speaker 2: the real Nelly and that they want to talk to
- 30:31Speaker 2: him on telegram or WhatsApp where there are no social
- 30:35Speaker 2: media moderation tools.
- 30:37Speaker 3: I love this.
- 30:38Speaker 2: So they were like, Ben, you hitting on her on
- 30:40Speaker 2: a real page. Imagine monitoring your comments and hitting on
- 30:45Speaker 2: the people who hit on you.
- 30:47Speaker 3: And you know what I love about this is I
- 30:49Speaker 3: think that leaving a comment like that is cheating. I
- 30:53Speaker 3: think any interaction and there are so many married men,
- 30:57Speaker 3: so many who think that having some type of flirtatious
- 31:00Speaker 3: or sexual interaction with the celebrity doesn't count as cheating,
- 31:04Speaker 3: but it is. And so I think that those men
- 31:07Speaker 3: deserve to have their bank accounts strained by like some
- 31:10Speaker 3: AI bought or sex worker who's gotten onto this game.
- 31:13Speaker 1: I's got the skill set. I agree with you.
- 31:15Speaker 2: I think that there's a way to appreciate I know
- 31:17Speaker 2: it's like, oh, this is a celebrity they're so far
- 31:20Speaker 2: away from me, I can never get with them. So
- 31:21Speaker 2: I'm allowed to just like be putting thirsty s emojis
- 31:24Speaker 2: under their count No no, no no no. I will
- 31:25Speaker 2: give you liking the picture. Yeah, you can like it.
- 31:28Speaker 1: You can be like great outfit. Yeah. Oh I saw
- 31:36Speaker 1: a TikTok.
- 31:37Speaker 2: I went down a TikTok rabbit hole the other day
- 31:39Speaker 2: and there was a guy and the woman was like,
- 31:42Speaker 2: why do you have a picture of this girl? Like,
- 31:43Speaker 2: why is this girl sending a picture of her thong
- 31:45Speaker 2: in your phone? And he was like, oh, I was
- 31:47Speaker 2: gonna buy that thong for you. She was like, well,
- 31:49Speaker 2: why is there a picture of her without it? And
- 31:51Speaker 2: he was like she must have sold it.
- 31:55Speaker 1: This is genius.
- 31:56Speaker 3: Don't talk about nothing.
- 31:58Speaker 1: If you give me an excuse like that for liking
- 31:59Speaker 1: a or thirston on celebrity pick, I'd be like, you
- 32:01Speaker 1: know what, fine.
- 32:03Speaker 2: So our golf fan doesn't know any better, right, So
- 32:07Speaker 2: he contacts this fake Nelly on her WhatsApp, where the
- 32:11Speaker 2: scammer often offers something attractive like a private dinner, VIP,
- 32:15Speaker 2: access to a tournament, or an investment opportunity for a fee.
- 32:20Speaker 3: Not an investment opportunity.
- 32:23Speaker 2: Listen to that FTX, so he makes an untraceable payment
- 32:27Speaker 2: via cryptocurrency or gift cards, so that's how they get them.
- 32:31Speaker 2: And mind you, these are like kind of older guys,
- 32:33Speaker 2: so they don't know how the internet hustle really works.
- 32:36Speaker 2: And I believe that the great setup for the scam
- 32:39Speaker 2: is that the old creepy dude has already left a
- 32:43Speaker 2: comment showing interest on the real person's page, so they're
- 32:46Speaker 2: not thinking that anybody else is reading their comment and
- 32:49Speaker 2: then finding them.
- 32:51Speaker 1: They're thinking, like, this must.
- 32:52Speaker 3: Be the real deal. My lucky day, Oh my gosh.
- 32:56Speaker 3: I love this scam. I feel like it's a victimless crime.
- 32:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, because like, what are you trying to
- 33:00Speaker 2: hit on this lady for? So golf fans like kids
- 33:05Speaker 2: or grandkids are eventually able to convince him that he's
- 33:08Speaker 2: being scammed, so payments stop and the scammer disappears, never
- 33:12Speaker 2: to be caught. Eventually, Pop Pop is bragging too much
- 33:15Speaker 2: while they're watching the women's Open. He's like, Yeah, I'm
- 33:18Speaker 2: going on a date with her the next weekend.
- 33:21Speaker 3: We're making investments together already.
- 33:23Speaker 1: It's great. They're like, Papa, what I don't think you
- 33:26Speaker 1: are making any investment.
- 33:28Speaker 2: So it's a classic social media bait and switch, and
- 33:32Speaker 2: especially it's effective in the golf community, where the average
- 33:34Speaker 2: age of the PGA tournament TV viewer is sixty four
- 33:37Speaker 2: years young genius.
- 33:39Speaker 1: Ooh that's perfect.
- 33:41Speaker 2: I also am on your side of this is the
- 33:44Speaker 2: perfect scam too, because at your big age, why are
- 33:48Speaker 2: you trying to hit on any of these people who
- 33:50Speaker 2: could be your children or your grandchildren. Yeah, like you're
- 33:53Speaker 2: already being a predator. So they just like una reversed you.
- 33:57Speaker 3: I love that. I'm gonna start doing it myself.
- 33:59Speaker 1: Actually right, I'm gonna start following these girls.
- 34:02Speaker 2: Get a list to everybody so I can get on
- 34:03Speaker 2: there and be like, hey, it's me Nellie.
- 34:05Speaker 1: I am so horny for you too. Oh send me
- 34:11Speaker 1: a citizen and citizen home. I can't even say senior citizen.
- 34:15Speaker 2: Send me the address to Shady Pass, and like, I'm in,
- 34:21Speaker 2: I'm in.
- 34:22Speaker 3: I love that you consider sixty four year old men
- 34:26Speaker 3: predators when they're going after how old is this young woman?
- 34:29Speaker 1: Like twenty? Yeah, it is predatory.
- 34:31Speaker 3: Just because they're of age doesn't make you not because
- 34:34Speaker 3: you're forty years older.
- 34:36Speaker 1: My guy, what do you have in common? With somebody
- 34:38Speaker 1: that you're forty years older than.
- 34:40Speaker 3: Yeah, I love of golf. I love of the game.
- 34:44Speaker 1: I guess golf.
- 34:44Speaker 2: At least they can say they got golf in common,
- 34:47Speaker 2: because the rest of these creepo ass man can't say anything.
- 34:50Speaker 3: We could take this scam outside of golf. You know,
- 34:53Speaker 3: if I have the kind of time that I wish
- 34:55Speaker 3: I had, I could just go through like any kind
- 34:58Speaker 3: of old man commenting anything on a slip try to
- 35:01Speaker 3: scam them. But I really need like a lesson on
- 35:03Speaker 3: cryptocurrency and all the all the other admin that goes
- 35:06Speaker 3: into the scam.
- 35:07Speaker 2: Yeah, like the untraceability of bitcoin and things like that.
- 35:10Speaker 2: I'm not great at signal, No whats App. I only
- 35:13Speaker 2: use when I'm out of the country. And then, like
- 35:15Speaker 2: my friends who live in other countries, they'll be like, Lacy,
- 35:18Speaker 2: I hit you up like mustcgow and I'm like, girl,
- 35:20Speaker 2: use that when I get back to the site.
- 35:21Speaker 1: That's my crime.
- 35:23Speaker 2: We all know it, Like why do I need to
- 35:25Speaker 2: go over there with you? Give me a number so
- 35:28Speaker 2: I agree with you. The only reason I would say
- 35:30Speaker 2: like this is easier and I think this is perfect
- 35:32Speaker 2: is because the demographic is so easily narrowed, like it's
- 35:35Speaker 2: right there for you, because that's the average viewer of golf,
- 35:38Speaker 2: Whereas like if I'm going on Meg the Stallion's page,
- 35:41Speaker 2: like the age range is going to vary so much
- 35:44Speaker 2: before I get to somebody who's like thursty and after
- 35:47Speaker 2: the booty and then I'm like, I got you.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Like I have to put it more legwork. I think
- 35:50Speaker 1: you do.
- 35:51Speaker 3: But there will be some sixty four year old white
- 35:53Speaker 3: ann on there.
- 35:54Speaker 1: That's true. What's another like thing that they like that
- 35:56Speaker 1: young people do?
- 35:58Speaker 2: Maybe tennis, Well, golf is the sweet spot for old man,
- 36:02Speaker 2: especially old man with money.
- 36:04Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is the beast section because I suppose
- 36:07Speaker 3: they play darts. They like cricket, older man, Sure they
- 36:11Speaker 3: like cricket, like cricket. But this this new wave of
- 36:15Speaker 3: young sexy women and golf as you describe, Yeah, it's
- 36:18Speaker 3: just the perfect time.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about new sexy cricket ladies.
- 36:22Speaker 2: Yeah, we could change that, could you?
- 36:26Speaker 1: And I?
- 36:27Speaker 2: We could change that. I could get into cricket. I
- 36:29Speaker 2: don't know if the cricket guys are like throwing that
- 36:30Speaker 2: money up though, like that. You know, I've never heard
- 36:33Speaker 2: of like, oh yeah, he loves cricket. We're on his
- 36:37Speaker 2: super yat like I don't know if those go together.
- 36:40Speaker 2: So obviously these older men are also more liable to
- 36:44Speaker 2: fall for obviously fake AI altered videos of players using
- 36:49Speaker 2: their names. So now we have an AI altered video
- 36:51Speaker 2: right here, where basically we got a lotok cameo, let's
- 36:55Speaker 2: play this.
- 36:56Speaker 1: Okay, Rodney, how are you doing today? This is the
- 36:59Speaker 1: real Nelly and your only privilege to get a video
- 37:02Speaker 1: for me. Get your fans card and let's start a conversation. Wow, okay.
- 37:09Speaker 2: So AI is getting a lot better with these videos. Yeah,
- 37:11Speaker 2: but this one.
- 37:12Speaker 1: Was like, hello, it is me the only Nellie Korda.
- 37:16Speaker 3: Let's have conversation start.
- 37:18Speaker 1: And talk so much good you sexy hot.
- 37:22Speaker 2: So this this money is going out of the country
- 37:25Speaker 2: the country someone used Google translation, yeah, because no one
- 37:29Speaker 2: was like.
- 37:29Speaker 1: Hi, it is I real Nelli Korda.
- 37:32Speaker 2: Like they would be like, hey, I told you it
- 37:34Speaker 2: was really mean, like it's nice to talk to you, Rodney, and.
- 37:37Speaker 1: They're like rod done. Too many syllables were pronounced in
- 37:42Speaker 1: this video.
- 37:44Speaker 3: I'm not good at deciphering between AI and not AI.
- 37:48Speaker 3: I will say the over forties we struggle with it
- 37:51Speaker 3: and it's always like a night vision video and lion
- 37:54Speaker 3: like rescuing some other animal, and I believe it every
- 37:57Speaker 3: single time.
- 37:58Speaker 1: It's getting so much harder.
- 38:00Speaker 2: Even even now, I begetting got with AI on TikTok.
- 38:04Speaker 2: Like I'll look at something on TikTok and be like, oh,
- 38:05Speaker 2: this is cute, but before because sometimes it just looks
- 38:08Speaker 2: too crazy. Yeah, And so I'll go into the comments
- 38:11Speaker 2: and people will be like this is AI, or I'll
- 38:12Speaker 2: look around the video for anything that's blurry, because like
- 38:16Speaker 2: AI used to be required to put like the Soros
- 38:19Speaker 2: label on it or something like that, and now people
- 38:21Speaker 2: are posting it and they're just like blurring that out,
- 38:24Speaker 2: or they're cropping it so much that it crops out
- 38:27Speaker 2: the logo that says it's AI. So they're getting more creative.
- 38:30Speaker 2: I saw one last night of this late. It was
- 38:32Speaker 2: like a lady on a slide, but it was like
- 38:35Speaker 2: in the mountains, like really high up in the mountains,
- 38:37Speaker 2: and this guy is behind her and you can tell
- 38:39Speaker 2: he's like the guide for this, so he like pushes
- 38:41Speaker 2: her down this huge slide I'm talking like one hundred
- 38:43Speaker 2: feet onto this huge trampoline almost kind of pillow thing
- 38:48Speaker 2: and then she shoots into the air and mind you,
- 38:50Speaker 2: this is just a cliff right next door, and then
- 38:53Speaker 2: she comes back down and kind of bounces a little
- 38:55Speaker 2: bit and it looks so realistic.
- 38:57Speaker 1: Girl was like, there's no way in hell.
- 38:58Speaker 2: This is the thing, and then started looking into it and
- 39:01Speaker 2: I was like, yah, it's ai but it looks so realistic.
- 39:03Speaker 2: It made my stomach flip because I was like, this
- 39:04Speaker 2: is terrifying looking. But again, these are white thrill seekers,
- 39:09Speaker 2: So for a second, I was like, this could be
- 39:11Speaker 2: a thing. Maybe they're catapulting themselves into the stratosphere.
- 39:14Speaker 3: How in red are these posh people? But that was crazy,
- 39:18Speaker 3: like that you would have to be definitely like elderly, elderly.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Because you're looking at a mouth and a face saying
- 39:24Speaker 2: your name, and if you're not adept with like like,
- 39:28Speaker 2: let me just hear the Rodney again.
- 39:30Speaker 1: Hey Rodney, how are you doing today?
- 39:32Speaker 2: That today really gets to how are you doing today today?
- 39:37Speaker 2: And then it's like this is your only opportunity, Like
- 39:40Speaker 2: who says that to somebody that they're talking to, Like,
- 39:42Speaker 2: this is your only opportunity to talk to me?
- 39:44Speaker 1: For real?
- 39:45Speaker 3: Someone with an investment proposal?
- 39:47Speaker 1: Right, rat rod so part for the course love that pun.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Online impersonators have taken off within the Ladies Sfessional Golf
- 40:00Speaker 2: Association the LPGA in the last five years. Bros like
- 40:05Speaker 2: Charlie Hull, Alexi Thompson, Michelle Wee West, Morgan Pressel, Jennifer Capuco,
- 40:12Speaker 2: Hannah Gregg Wow Wow, this is this a runway show?
- 40:16Speaker 2: And Nellie Corda all have publicly posted warnings about the
- 40:20Speaker 2: scams to their followers. I mean, they's some maddies.
- 40:26Speaker 1: They look good.
- 40:27Speaker 3: They are let your fan base be scammed if your
- 40:30Speaker 3: sixty four year old fan base wants to put some
- 40:33Speaker 3: like lecherousque comments that let them be scammed.
- 40:36Speaker 2: At the same time, like maybe they were like, but
- 40:38Speaker 2: maybe I want to get it really involved with the
- 40:40Speaker 2: old man.
- 40:41Speaker 1: The Baba's always out, the Bomba's out on. Yeah, this
- 40:45Speaker 1: one is more egregious like the other one.
- 40:47Speaker 2: I kind of saw like it could have been an
- 40:48Speaker 2: accident because she was like looking for to put but
- 40:51Speaker 2: like she was she tooting that thing.
- 40:52Speaker 1: She wanted to toot it. They know what they're doing
- 40:55Speaker 1: and I'm not mad at it.
- 40:56Speaker 3: What a scam. I'm on board.
- 40:58Speaker 1: I love on.
- 40:58Speaker 2: Board with this, but you know what, make me feel
- 41:01Speaker 2: bad if I was in the LPGA and nobody was
- 41:05Speaker 2: scamming my fans because I'm like, I'm not sexy enough.
- 41:09Speaker 2: Next next, next, next open. I'm coming out in the
- 41:13Speaker 2: throng because I'm not gonna out just do me.
- 41:15Speaker 1: This is it.
- 41:16Speaker 3: This is why they've got all their little bomps out
- 41:18Speaker 3: trying to get so.
- 41:19Speaker 2: Golf influencers Page Sprionic and Hailey Ostrom also have spoken
- 41:24Speaker 2: out about the dangers of scammers. So these are also
- 41:27Speaker 2: just some real cuties who are like, scamming is bad.
- 41:30Speaker 3: She is a golfer.
- 41:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess part time model, full time golfer.
- 41:36Speaker 3: I wonder if it's too late for us to learn golf.
- 41:39Speaker 2: No, never too Like these guys are so fucking old.
- 41:41Speaker 2: This is gonna be a low impact sport.
- 41:43Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't start until they're old or sometimes someone
- 41:45Speaker 3: have to like get a business before they start golfing.
- 41:49Speaker 3: I don't see a lot of like nineteen year old
- 41:50Speaker 3: boys golfing. They start their third I mean I do
- 41:53Speaker 3: in college.
- 41:54Speaker 1: I do.
- 41:54Speaker 2: There's like a golf team. I knew some guys who
- 41:56Speaker 2: like love to go golfing and stuff. But I guess
- 41:59Speaker 2: it just depends on where you are. But I definitely
- 42:02Speaker 2: would be down to get on a golf course. I
- 42:03Speaker 2: don't even care if I'm not good at it. If
- 42:05Speaker 2: there's some great business opportunities to you made, I'll get
- 42:07Speaker 2: out there and cheat. I don't give a fuck. This
- 42:10Speaker 2: is how I shirk the ball right into the sand.
- 42:12Speaker 2: And then I'd be like, oh, oh, I'm on the green, y'all.
- 42:16Speaker 3: They'll be blowing each other in the woods anyway, they
- 42:18Speaker 3: won't see you.
- 42:19Speaker 1: And then when they go to blow each other in
- 42:20Speaker 1: the woods.
- 42:20Speaker 3: That's how I get my ball. That's our cheating window.
- 42:26Speaker 2: That's our cheating window. Yeah, and then I place it
- 42:28Speaker 2: right on the green and they're like, yeah, that's crazy.
- 42:31Speaker 3: I feel like I'm gonna lose my husband to one
- 42:32Speaker 3: of these women. I don't learn golf because my dad
- 42:35Speaker 3: remarried a woman who loves to golf and they golf
- 42:38Speaker 3: together all the time and it's actually so cute. And
- 42:42Speaker 3: what is your husband doing is sucking off his golf
- 42:45Speaker 3: mate in the woods. If you are not part of
- 42:47Speaker 3: that foursome, you.
- 42:48Speaker 2: Heard it here, guys, ladies, gentlemen, Bay's thems. If you
- 42:52Speaker 2: got a partner who likes the golf you better start
- 42:55Speaker 2: golfing too, otherwise they're gonna.
- 42:57Speaker 3: Be he's in it would for the shaft. Do you
- 43:00Speaker 3: know how many straight quote unquote married men turn out
- 43:04Speaker 3: to be gay or we'll just indulge in a little
- 43:06Speaker 3: bit of gayness on the side, and they don't think
- 43:08Speaker 3: that makes them gay.
- 43:10Speaker 1: I mean, bisexuals exist, but.
- 43:12Speaker 3: These men don't identify that way. They think that they're straight.
- 43:15Speaker 3: They think it doesn't count. Because I hear this relentlessly
- 43:17Speaker 3: on tour. I've done a show recently where I ask
- 43:20Speaker 3: the audience questions for dilemmas and time and time again,
- 43:24Speaker 3: like so much more often than you would think, gay
- 43:27Speaker 3: men are either reporting that married men have sexual again
- 43:30Speaker 3: of course, or people will be like, oh, I found
- 43:33Speaker 3: these texts in my husband's phone with his mate, but
- 43:36Speaker 3: like he thinks or his friend and he thinks it
- 43:38Speaker 3: doesn't count. Oh yeah, you've lived in your American listeners
- 43:42Speaker 3: might not know. Yeah, there's a lot of that going on.
- 43:45Speaker 2: What sad to me about that is like, just live
- 43:48Speaker 2: your troop for a woman to now have her life
- 43:52Speaker 2: stolen by you because she's your baby making accessory machine,
- 43:57Speaker 2: where it's like you could have been out here living Yo.
- 43:59Speaker 1: You know Lynn fantasies and left that.
- 44:01Speaker 2: Lady alone, right, and she could have been with somebody
- 44:03Speaker 2: who actually wanted to be with her and not have
- 44:05Speaker 2: free labor, occasional sex and baby rearing.
- 44:09Speaker 3: That's it.
- 44:10Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not fair to that lady. That's why
- 44:12Speaker 1: I get.
- 44:12Speaker 2: I understand when people are upset, like I think everyone
- 44:15Speaker 2: should live their truth, but I really understand when women
- 44:17Speaker 2: are upset that they married someone who eventually outs themselves
- 44:22Speaker 2: or turns out to be gay, because I'm like, you
- 44:23Speaker 2: stole that lady life, you ain't ever really want her,
- 44:25Speaker 2: and like that's not fair, no, And I mean, I
- 44:29Speaker 2: know everybody has to live their truth and come out
- 44:30Speaker 2: their own time, but I just feel like that's such
- 44:32Speaker 2: a patriarchal thing to waste a woman's life because you
- 44:35Speaker 2: are afraid to live yours.
- 44:36Speaker 3: And maybe you had reasons for not living your truth, fine,
- 44:40Speaker 3: like you said, but that doesn't negate that way out
- 44:44Speaker 3: of it. Right.
- 44:44Speaker 1: Lesbians do it all the time.
- 44:46Speaker 2: You know how many honors I had coming up who
- 44:47Speaker 2: didn't want to come out the closet, but they had
- 44:49Speaker 2: a roommate who was always in lenen.
- 44:51Speaker 1: At the family reunion, we know what was that? Yeah,
- 44:54Speaker 1: but it's like they weren't bothering, no man being like
- 44:57Speaker 1: be with me, Like, you know.
- 44:58Speaker 3: Can you imagine all that poor lesbian would just be
- 45:01Speaker 3: tortured by her fate husband?
- 45:03Speaker 2: She really although I do love a lavennger marriage, and
- 45:07Speaker 2: I feel like I'm gonna end up in one, and
- 45:08Speaker 2: that's fine for me, as long as we agree. We're like,
- 45:10Speaker 2: we like to travel, we like to split bills to.
- 45:14Speaker 3: See Vivian Westwood. Vivian Westwood is in one. Yeah, she
- 45:18Speaker 3: just recently came out. I think her husband was like, oh,
- 45:20Speaker 3: I'm gay.
- 45:20Speaker 1: They're happy.
- 45:21Speaker 2: Yeah, we both want tax brings and we do. Yes,
- 45:25Speaker 2: I mean to each his own, but yeah, I just
- 45:28Speaker 2: don't like the scamming, of the lying of it all.
- 45:30Speaker 2: So but more than once, the victims of the scams
- 45:33Speaker 2: have continued to blame the golfer for their financial losses,
- 45:36Speaker 2: even after being confronted with the truth, and some simply
- 45:38Speaker 2: refuse to believe that they have not been interacting with
- 45:41Speaker 2: the real athletes.
- 45:42Speaker 1: So there we go.
- 45:43Speaker 2: Now this is supposed to be off a little bit
- 45:44Speaker 2: because here y'all go, misogynists, How are you gonna blame
- 45:47Speaker 2: the golfer for you being stupid?
- 45:49Speaker 1: What that gotta to wear?
- 45:50Speaker 3: Do you think she needs your money? Do you think
- 45:52Speaker 3: it was really her?
- 45:53Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 45:53Speaker 2: And like how could she have stopped that from happening?
- 45:56Speaker 2: You put your thirst online and made yourself a target.
- 46:00Speaker 3: I think it's maybe very difficult for these men to
- 46:03Speaker 3: confront that they've been tricked and scammed. And also I
- 46:06Speaker 3: don't think they want to let go of the fact
- 46:08Speaker 3: that maybe it was the real her, So they're like, no,
- 46:11Speaker 3: I was not scammed, Like denial is so powerful, yeah.
- 46:14Speaker 2: And shame is what's behind it. And then also I
- 46:18Speaker 2: think about what if these older men were like on
- 46:20Speaker 2: the golf course and they're showing these messages and these
- 46:24Speaker 2: videos to their other buddies and then and they're thinking
- 46:28Speaker 2: like they're they're de Lulu is so out of control
- 46:32Speaker 2: that they think this young, hot, sports illustrated lady golfer
- 46:36Speaker 2: wants they're snapsack ass. And then when it gets out
- 46:41Speaker 2: of that, obviously this is fake. I'm sure they're so
- 46:43Speaker 2: embarrassed too.
- 46:45Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, how dare you?
- 46:47Speaker 2: But if I'm going to be embarrassed, I'm not going
- 46:49Speaker 2: to be mad if I was like these old Dusty Men.
- 46:52Speaker 1: I would not be mad at the golfer.
- 46:54Speaker 2: I would pretend that it was the real person for
- 46:57Speaker 2: the rest of my life.
- 46:59Speaker 1: I'm like, you know it was her.
- 47:00Speaker 2: Everybody else got scammed, but me and Nelly had something
- 47:02Speaker 2: real we did. I had to break it off with
- 47:05Speaker 2: her though, because you know, her schedule just too crazy.
- 47:08Speaker 2: You know, it was.
- 47:08Speaker 3: A weird voice, and her English.
- 47:11Speaker 1: English not great, and also just body too hot. You know.
- 47:14Speaker 1: It was just it was a lie.
- 47:16Speaker 2: And you know, between her tours and stuff, I was
- 47:19Speaker 2: just like, you don't have enough time for me and
- 47:20Speaker 2: the family.
- 47:21Speaker 1: So yeah, I had a whole life that we had
- 47:24Speaker 1: to get. Double down.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Yeah, double down. That's the That's the nice way of
- 47:30Speaker 2: having delusion. I feel like the other way of getting
- 47:32Speaker 2: mad at the golfer who did nothing to you is
- 47:34Speaker 2: just fucked up.
- 47:35Speaker 1: But if you want to double down.
- 47:36Speaker 2: On delusion, I mean, we all know you lying, but
- 47:38Speaker 2: whatever makes you feel good. So Romance scammed after joining
- 47:42Speaker 2: a Nelly Quarter fan page. Nelly you out here, you
- 47:44Speaker 2: got him down bad.
- 47:46Speaker 3: They like her.
- 47:47Speaker 1: That Sports Illustrated page. She tore everybody up.
- 47:50Speaker 3: You just see her Instagram.
- 47:52Speaker 2: She got the golf world and shambles single handedly wow.
- 47:57Speaker 2: So after joining a Nelly quarter of family page on
- 48:00Speaker 2: Facebook in June twenty twenty four, an unnamed seventy two
- 48:04Speaker 2: year old man from South Carolina received an email from
- 48:07Speaker 2: someone claiming to be the real Nelly CORDA email was
- 48:11Speaker 2: quickly turned into texting. Texting morphed into phone calls, and
- 48:14Speaker 2: within days he told his daughter that they were in love.
- 48:18Speaker 2: You know they can clone your voice with AI. Yes
- 48:21Speaker 2: for a phone call now too. He sent her fifteen
- 48:24Speaker 2: thousand dollars each time he confronted Nelly about the inconsistencies
- 48:30Speaker 2: in her story, she had an excuse for everything. So
- 48:35Speaker 2: she so, Nellie, baby, why do you need my money?
- 48:37Speaker 2: Because I see you all sports illustrated with a thang thanging,
- 48:40Speaker 2: and Nellie said, I have no access to my money
- 48:42Speaker 2: due to a controlling manager and family. Oh I was
- 48:46Speaker 2: gonna come see you, boogie, but my flight got canceled.
- 48:49Speaker 2: The last one the scam warning on Quarters verified Instagram.
- 48:52Speaker 2: Oh baby, that's for everybody.
- 48:54Speaker 3: Else, not you ball.
- 48:58Speaker 1: What we're doing is real, but I'm protecting everybody else.
- 49:01Speaker 1: That's fag. Yes, So she had excuses for everything.
- 49:05Speaker 2: He was preparing to sell his house at her request
- 49:10Speaker 2: when she said she had broken a bone in a
- 49:13Speaker 2: car accident. But the real Nelly was still out and
- 49:17Speaker 2: about golfing with all her.
- 49:18Speaker 3: Bones, all of them.
- 49:22Speaker 1: And that's when he decided it was a scam.
- 49:24Speaker 3: Oh so he did figure it out on his own.
- 49:27Speaker 2: It got to real estate agent before he figured it out.
- 49:31Speaker 2: That's way too far. You were about to sell your home.
- 49:33Speaker 3: See this week's beside now. Because he seems like a
- 49:36Speaker 3: nice man in love.
- 49:38Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about that. He's seventy two.
- 49:41Speaker 1: I'll give him this. If he had a.
- 49:44Speaker 3: Maybe he got a little dimentsion, sure.
- 49:46Speaker 2: And like that can lead to a lot of gullibility.
- 49:49Speaker 2: And there's different like levels on the spectrum of you know,
- 49:52Speaker 2: like hot more high functioning dementi and then when it
- 49:55Speaker 2: gets to the late stages.
- 49:57Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give him nat because maybe because it is.
- 50:00Speaker 3: He's living in the notebook, he thinks he's young.
- 50:03Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he might be living in a notebook, but
- 50:05Speaker 2: is far more likely.
- 50:10Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
- 50:13Speaker 2: I don't know, because also I want to say he
- 50:15Speaker 2: lived in a notebook, but he was smart enough to
- 50:17Speaker 2: read her. The real Nelly's warnings about scammers in the
- 50:20Speaker 2: Instagram bio. So it's like he did try to do
- 50:23Speaker 2: his due diligence When she didn't come, he said the
- 50:25Speaker 2: flight was canceled when he asked why she needed money,
- 50:29Speaker 2: so he was asking questions. He was confronting fake Nelly.
- 50:34Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I might not be able to
- 50:35Speaker 2: feel sorry for you, my guy, because it seems just like.
- 50:39Speaker 3: I love that these bought accounts or these whatever they
- 50:42Speaker 3: are fake scam accounts. They're like the new Chris Hansen.
- 50:45Speaker 3: Do you remember what was it called Predator?
- 50:48Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 50:49Speaker 3: Is that got off air or do you still have?
- 50:50Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 50:51Speaker 2: It got lots of lawsuits after a while. Who for
- 50:53Speaker 2: end trapment and trapman? Yeah, because technically the up just
- 50:58Speaker 2: like they weren't kids. So yeah, there's some like gray
- 51:02Speaker 2: area there.
- 51:03Speaker 3: Legally that's a shame. You should be able to entrap
- 51:06Speaker 3: Peto's is my opinion. Anyway you can. Poor Chris Hansen.
- 51:10Speaker 3: What's he doing now?
- 51:11Speaker 1: Oh he's doing great.
- 51:12Speaker 2: I think he's still like her catching him pedals all
- 51:14Speaker 2: types of ways to do so good kid kids to
- 51:16Speaker 2: know he's dedicated, and I love that for him.
- 51:19Speaker 1: I mean, I hate romance scams though, so it's hard
- 51:22Speaker 1: for like I'm looking at this from multiple angles.
- 51:24Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm also I'm looking at seventy to year
- 51:26Speaker 2: old man who's sitting on a woman who's way too
- 51:27Speaker 2: young for him. But I'm also looking at someone who's
- 51:29Speaker 2: clearly lonely.
- 51:31Speaker 3: Yeah, like you were.
- 51:32Speaker 1: Willing to sell your home.
- 51:34Speaker 2: So he's probably thinking, I don't have that many years left,
- 51:36Speaker 2: and I can sell my home and I'll just go
- 51:38Speaker 2: on tour with my favorite golfer and live a thrilling,
- 51:40Speaker 2: excile life.
- 51:42Speaker 3: But the audacity of it, Yeah, the audacity.
- 51:45Speaker 2: To go ass down to the shady pines and find
- 51:47Speaker 2: you a woman own goddamn age. Yes, yeah, no, I
- 51:51Speaker 2: don't feel bad again, I'm oscillating.
- 51:54Speaker 3: I think if a romance scam involves a fifty year
- 51:57Speaker 3: age gap.
- 51:58Speaker 2: Yeah, then I can't think you can get on board.
- 52:00Speaker 1: I know from me dog. So victims become threats.
- 52:05Speaker 2: People have shown up at tournaments who thought they had
- 52:08Speaker 2: sent money to have a private dinner with a player
- 52:11Speaker 2: and had to be removed by Torchstone Global, a security
- 52:15Speaker 2: firm used by the LPGA. So now these weirdos, they
- 52:20Speaker 2: just sent three hundred dollars to Romanian Nelly, and now
- 52:26Speaker 2: they's showing up demanding a dinner at the freaking like
- 52:29Speaker 2: at this lady's place of work, at the LPGA. That's
- 52:33Speaker 2: where she works, bro, that's her job. How are you
- 52:35Speaker 2: gonna show up at any lady's job and be like
- 52:38Speaker 2: when you saw me be going on a date, like
- 52:40Speaker 2: if we were going on a day, won't we coordinate that?
- 52:42Speaker 3: That's terrifying. It is terrifying. And the fact that this
- 52:44Speaker 3: has happened multiple times, like enough for it to be
- 52:47Speaker 3: reported enough that the security is like another one. I
- 52:51Speaker 3: was scammed once. I'll tell you it was a bad scam.
- 52:54Speaker 3: Are you familiar with in flateophilia? No, So it's like
- 52:57Speaker 3: a sexual king. Not to kink shame anyone, but you
- 53:02Speaker 3: do have to have consent to do your kink on someone.
- 53:06Speaker 3: They like balloons being inflated. So when I was working
- 53:10Speaker 3: at Hooters, this guy called with a radio voice. We
- 53:12Speaker 3: all know what a radio voice is. Like, He's like,
- 53:14Speaker 3: this is Kevin Ross from Cbee whatever, and he goes,
- 53:18Speaker 3: if you can inflate your pantyhose because we wore pantyhouse. Yeah,
- 53:22Speaker 3: I'll give you three hundred dollars And I was like great,
- 53:25Speaker 3: So I ran to my manager I said, can I
- 53:27Speaker 3: inflate my pantyhouse for three hundred dollars? I think I
- 53:29Speaker 3: can figure it out. He played on my like desire
- 53:32Speaker 3: to be smart and figure out puzzles. I was say,
- 53:35Speaker 3: I can do this. My manager said no, no, it
- 53:37Speaker 3: sounds like a scam. And I was like, oh, So
- 53:38Speaker 3: I got back at the pot. I said I'm not allowed.
- 53:40Speaker 3: He said, well, you don't have to do it as
- 53:41Speaker 3: a Hooters waitress. You can just do it like as
- 53:43Speaker 3: a college student, like as a private citizen with your roommates,
- 53:46Speaker 3: where everyone was yeah, and I was like okay. So
- 53:49Speaker 3: I gave him my phone number, and then he started
- 53:52Speaker 3: calling our flat like again and again and again, and
- 53:55Speaker 3: I would I put plastic bags down my nyhlons. I
- 53:58Speaker 3: did not think this was sexy, so I didn't realized
- 54:00Speaker 3: it was like a fetish and I would inflate them
- 54:03Speaker 3: with a bicycle pump. He had us running down to
- 54:05Speaker 3: like the gas station, using that tire, doing all these
- 54:08Speaker 3: different photo shoots for him. Sometimes he would have us no,
- 54:12Speaker 3: I would just email him the photos and the money
- 54:15Speaker 3: never came, and but he would say, go to the
- 54:18Speaker 3: gas station and inflate your panty hoose. There like he
- 54:20Speaker 3: had us like out and about wow, and I still
- 54:23Speaker 3: didn't know skim. Then he'd have us so young, Yeah,
- 54:26Speaker 3: I had. I was speaking to him on the phone.
- 54:28Speaker 3: He'd be like, for the radio, you have to say
- 54:30Speaker 3: you're floating up to the ceiling and you're worried you're
- 54:32Speaker 3: gonna pop. And we would do all this like role
- 54:35Speaker 3: play of balloon stuff that I did not know was sex.
- 54:39Speaker 3: Then sometimes he'd be breathing weird. He'd always call us
- 54:41Speaker 3: in the middle of the night. Anyway.
- 54:43Speaker 2: See that pisses me off too, because there's so many
- 54:46Speaker 2: people in the king community who are willing to have
- 54:48Speaker 2: a fair exchange to do that kind of stuff, and
- 54:50Speaker 2: instead you decided to steal from.
- 54:52Speaker 3: Young girls exactly, trick them and put us on kink
- 54:56Speaker 3: fetish websites. Oh my god, those photos. Yeah, and he
- 55:00Speaker 3: knew my address because I gave him my address to
- 55:02Speaker 3: send the money. And the money never came, but damn
- 55:07Speaker 3: it was bad. So I went to the radio station
- 55:10Speaker 3: to look for my money to be like I've been
- 55:12Speaker 3: infleeting my pantyhose time and time again, like where is
- 55:15Speaker 3: all this cash? And the woman pressed a bun and
- 55:18Speaker 3: she goes, oh, Steve, we got another one. No, yeah,
- 55:22Speaker 3: So he'd been doing it to loads of women. So
- 55:24Speaker 3: the producer, Steve came downstairs and he's like, nobody works
- 55:27Speaker 3: at the radio station. Who's like doing this entertainment segment.
- 55:31Speaker 3: You've been scammed by the flatophiliac. And there were loads
- 55:34Speaker 3: more girls and that's how he knew.
- 55:36Speaker 1: Wow, And I see.
- 55:38Speaker 2: I would say the difference here is is that you
- 55:41Speaker 2: were promised money in exchange for like, you know, a
- 55:45Speaker 2: wacky competition or whatever. That's what you thought was happening.
- 55:48Speaker 2: You weren't showing up trying to be like where's that man?
- 55:50Speaker 2: And I want to be with him, Like you're like
- 55:53Speaker 2: so much.
- 55:53Speaker 1: Just give me my money.
- 55:54Speaker 2: And then I was told I was going to get
- 55:55Speaker 2: But I understand the parallel here of like what you're
- 55:59Speaker 2: doing is like you were taking advantage of it, and
- 56:00Speaker 2: you were trying to get compensated, Whereas in this situation, yes,
- 56:03Speaker 2: these men were taking advantage.
- 56:05Speaker 1: Of by a scammer.
- 56:06Speaker 2: However, if you have not been contacted by this person,
- 56:09Speaker 2: but maybe the scammers were being like come to the turn,
- 56:11Speaker 2: I said.
- 56:12Speaker 3: They were looking to be compensated, but with dinner, right, Yeah,
- 56:15Speaker 3: But I just love that in both cases, the staff
- 56:17Speaker 3: are aware of the staff are.
- 56:18Speaker 2: Like because so many times they're like, oh my god, Gene,
- 56:22Speaker 2: can you go down there?
- 56:23Speaker 1: So we got more of them inflatable girls.
- 56:26Speaker 2: Like at this point, I'm like the radio stations are responsible,
- 56:29Speaker 2: because why aren't they just saying like, hey, we don't
- 56:30Speaker 2: have a guy who works here and does this, like
- 56:32Speaker 2: if you hear this, like just like these women were
- 56:35Speaker 2: trying to be like, hey, we're not We're not trying
- 56:37Speaker 2: to hit on you. I've never wanted to be able
- 56:39Speaker 2: to send me a two year old man in my life.
- 56:41Speaker 3: It would be a weird segment on the radio, though,
- 56:42Speaker 3: just to be like, uh, just so you know, none
- 56:45Speaker 3: of our presenters will be calling you and asking you
- 56:47Speaker 3: to inflate your pantyhouse for sexual gratification. Next the traffic,
- 56:50Speaker 3: like what I.
- 56:52Speaker 2: Mean, it would be entertaining. That would get some news
- 56:54Speaker 2: ratings going. I'd be like, I'm listening to this station
- 56:57Speaker 2: every day because what y'all got going on. So a
- 57:00Speaker 2: Pennsylvania man in his sixties drove four hours to Liberty
- 57:04Speaker 2: National Golf Club in Jersey City, New Jersey for the
- 57:08Speaker 2: Mizuho America's Open. So he was there to meet a
- 57:13Speaker 2: twenty two year old American golfer Rose Jang. He told
- 57:17Speaker 2: tournament staff that she had left a VIP package for
- 57:19Speaker 2: him and booked him a hotel room. He said he
- 57:22Speaker 2: had been talking to her on social media for over
- 57:24Speaker 2: year and he had sent her around seventy thousand dollars.
- 57:27Speaker 2: Rose's agent confronted the man, breaking the news that he
- 57:30Speaker 2: was not communicating with her. Now again, Rose is twenty two.
- 57:35Speaker 2: You are in your sixties. Yeah, But I think because
- 57:40Speaker 2: the delulu probably comes here because seventy thousand dollars to
- 57:44Speaker 2: a twenty two year old is a lot of money.
- 57:46Speaker 2: I mean, mind you, she is playing golf and she's
- 57:48Speaker 2: getting endorsements, so she's making way more money than the
- 57:51Speaker 2: average twenty two year old. But I'm sure somebody in
- 57:53Speaker 2: their sixties would think that a twenty two year old
- 57:56Speaker 2: might be swayed by seventy million, right.
- 57:58Speaker 3: But I mean, these are breaking their bones. They're like
- 58:02Speaker 3: having family troubles. They're finding reasons that they need money
- 58:06Speaker 3: from these old petos.
- 58:07Speaker 2: Another sixty eight year old man from California went to
- 58:10Speaker 2: several tournaments to see South Korean golfer Angi Chun After
- 58:15Speaker 2: losing fifty thousand dollars, so he went to several tournaments.
- 58:18Speaker 2: At this point in stalking, because he's saying he lost
- 58:21Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars, maybe you didn't lose fifty thousand dollars.
- 58:23Speaker 2: You gave fifty thousand dollars away. And there is a
- 58:25Speaker 2: difference because at no point does somebody hold you up
- 58:28Speaker 2: at gunpoint and tell you to give an internet lady
- 58:31Speaker 2: fifty k Like, that's not you, buddy. And in January
- 58:34Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five, a man showed up at Hailey
- 58:37Speaker 2: Ostrom's home after losing fifty thousand dollars to an account
- 58:41Speaker 2: impersonating her. Here's a video of her telling the story.
- 58:44Speaker 2: Her stalker left his own accord without making any threats,
- 58:48Speaker 2: but the online scammer got away like they usually do
- 58:52Speaker 2: and is probably still doing the same thing from different accounts.
- 58:54Speaker 2: So we have a little video of her telling the
- 58:57Speaker 2: story right here.
- 58:58Speaker 3: Imagine it's the same scam. We're the one who's really
- 59:01Speaker 3: good at getting like hundreds of thousands.
- 59:03Speaker 1: Yeah, what if this was like one small organized crime.
- 59:05Speaker 3: One woman with a bunch of accounts.
- 59:08Speaker 1: I mean, whoever they are, they're genius, because this is
- 59:10Speaker 1: a Niche.
- 59:11Speaker 4: On Monday, I got a message from one of the
- 59:13Speaker 4: courses that I frequent saying that a man came in
- 59:16Speaker 4: and was looking for me and asking about me, and
- 59:19Speaker 4: asked them to contact me. He left his name. I
- 59:22Speaker 4: did not recognize his name, and I basically chalked it
- 59:25Speaker 4: up to this is probably a follower. Just let it go.
- 59:29Speaker 4: I dropped it and forgot about it until last night
- 59:32Speaker 4: when that man showed up at my house. It was
- 59:35Speaker 4: a very scary situation for me, and I have never
- 59:38Speaker 4: had anything like that happen before. He was able to
- 59:41Speaker 4: get my address by abusing his job at his work
- 59:44Speaker 4: and finding all of my information. It turns out he
- 59:47Speaker 4: had been messaging a fake Haley Ostrom page, thinking that
- 59:51Speaker 4: it was me and sending them a fifty thousand dollars.
- 59:54Speaker 4: He was obviously mad when that person stopped messaging him,
- 59:58Speaker 4: so he figured out a way to get to me
- 1:00:00Speaker 4: and came to my home. I was very scared and
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: had even texted my parents during this interaction, telling them
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: to send cops to my house right away. He did
- 1:00:10Speaker 4: not make any threats, and he did eventually leave on
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: his own free will. But as you can imagine, I
- 1:00:16Speaker 4: don't know his intentions, and because some of the situations
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: that have happened in my past with some followers, I
- 1:00:22Speaker 4: was very skeptical and scared and not going to take
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: any risk. So I felt the need to put this
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: video out there so that is in my feed that
- 1:00:30Speaker 4: I do not message you on any other accounts. I
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: will never directly message you and ask you to telegram me.
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: I don't have a telegram. I don't even know what
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: that is.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: Okay, I will not ask you. I like the PSA.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: I mean looking at her, just spina typely this this
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: is the type of blonde, white woman that gets every
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: fantasy projected on her. Not to say this doesn't happen
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: to people of all races. I've had people show up
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: with former addresses of mine looking for me. Yeah, my
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: landlord will call me and like I had moved already,
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: and they were like, hey, somebody just came into the building.
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: They were looking for you. They weren't like I was
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: delivering a package or somebody. She was like, no, it
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: didn't give me that vibete all. She was like, I
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: would just like be careful, but no one knows where
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: I live now. I don't even have my name anywhere
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: where you.
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: Can see it. And also, if you buy a house,
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: buy it in a trust.
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: So golf honeys, if any of you guys hear this,
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: if you're buying homes, buy that in a trust.
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: Don't buy that in your name because that's public record. Yeah.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: So, but she said they use his his I wish
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: that she had clarified what his job was because she
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: said he used his work at his job, And I
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: was like, girl, what that means?
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: It's probably a police officer is always a police officer
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: gotta be, gotta be So this guy is a psycho
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: because you know, and men will stop at nothing.
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: I love this.
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: She's giving him grace to be Like, you know, he
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: wasn't violent. He left on his own accord.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: He was violent. He came to your home. That's violence.
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: He also abused his position of power to find your address.
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: Like even if it was the real Haley messaging him,
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: that is, and.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: What was his mind was the best case scenario. He
- 1:02:00Speaker 2: already knows that he had been scammed. Yeah, he already
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: knows who was talking to a fake person and gave
- 1:02:03Speaker 2: that fake person money. So what in your mind do
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: you stand to game by coming over to this lady's
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: house unannounced. Would you think she's gonna open the door
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: and be like, Oh, I'm the real one have sex
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: with me?
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: Like what is the best case scenario here?
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: But I wonder if he thinks just like when man
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: buy a drink, they think they're owed something, I wonder
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: if he does feel that he is owed something from
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: whom whatever? But fifty, I'm gonna use.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: His work at his job to track down to a camera.
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's who oju, that's it. And it's probably
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: a man. I know it is probably a man.
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: Yeah, because men know how to talk to the desperate,
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: thirsty mens.
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, that'd be a man far far away.
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: It's a man telegram. That's exactly what it is.
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: So we're gonna wrap that scam up here. We do
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: have a little scammer of the week before we get
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: out of here. But I just wanted your.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: Final thoughts here, like how do you feel about this scam?
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: Initially, Lacy, I love the scam because it for once,
- 1:02:59Speaker 3: we are pretty upon these like older men who think
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: that they deserve access to a very young woman whose
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: frontal lobe is still developing. And I don't like that.
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: And I think that they're perfectly positioned to be scammed.
- 1:03:13Speaker 3: But then I think there is like a larger message
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: that this could happen to anyone. This could happen to
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: any of us with all AI coming out and everyone
- 1:03:21Speaker 3: having a social media account.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: And it is happening more and more. And I mean
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: you think about media literacy, like I feel like it's
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: the older generations and then the younger generations who have
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: less media literacy when it comes to AI and things
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: like that. So I think about like kids in high school,
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: like what if your favorite pop singer like hits you
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: up to ask you to meet somewhere meet and greed
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: or you know.
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the cat fishing has reached like a
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: new level of danger for sure for everyone.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: I miss old catfishing when it was like.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: I'm Bruno, mom, I'm dating little bow Wow right, and
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: I need ten thousand dollars from your grandma, Like I
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: missed that kind of cat.
- 1:03:59Speaker 3: But also I think sometimes with AI, and we've seen
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: this with like sexual exploitation already, the law is starting
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: to catch up. So Paris Hilton was just speaking publicly
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: about when her sex tape was maliciously released back then
- 1:04:16Speaker 3: we could slut shame her. It was like the punchline
- 1:04:19Speaker 3: and a lot of jokes this sex tape, but really
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: what happened to her was a sex crime. And that's
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: how we look at it today. Say with Monica Lewinsky,
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: she talks all the time about what she went through.
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: She was like the first person to be Internet bullied
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: on that scale, Pamela Anderson exactly. We slut shamed all
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: of these women. And I think one thing I will
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: say about the men who've been scammed is that there
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: just isn't the legislation to help them recover that money
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: because they have been defrauded. But I don't think police
- 1:04:48Speaker 3: work or the justice system has caught up with what
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: AI is capable of, and like this cryptocurrency that you mentioned,
- 1:04:54Speaker 3: and like these people are uncatchable, and that is a shame,
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: because if you are scammed out of seventy grand, there
- 1:05:00Speaker 3: should be some recourse for you to get it back.
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: Yeah, and at times there is, but that typically only
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: happens when you have a serial romantic fraudster. So if
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: you're a serial romantic scammer, they'll start to add it
- 1:05:11Speaker 2: up and they'll you know, like most of the time
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: people won't get their money back, but they'll get some
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: sort of justice sometimes. But it is very rare, especially
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: in romantic scams, because there's such a huge gray area
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: where it's like in this one, I feel like with
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: the AI it kind of lends itself to hopefully a
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: better fraud case. But I feel like in other romantic
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: scams where the person is presenting to be who they
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: say they are, they're just lying about their whole circumstance
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: to you. It's kind of like, well, how do we
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: negotiate for Like, are we gonna put people in jails
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: are lying? Yeah, and that's like that's a great area.
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: Although who was it was?
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: It?
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: Was it Mariah Carey?
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: Yes, it was Mariah Carey who was married wasting for
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: her time.
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: Yeah, she sued for her husband wasting her time. Yeah.
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: And one mac carre's time is so expensive we can't
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: afform rad Carey.
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: So we're gonna wrap this upisode up with Scam of
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: the Week. H this is what we highlight.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: A Charlotton new may or may not be worthy of
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: our praise, or maybe a group of criminals.
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: We'll see.
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: Right now, investigators are on the hunt for a less
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: attractive Jason Stathum look alike who stole seventeen hundred dollars
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: worth of caviar from a Whole Foods in Irvine, California.
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: This is a very accurate depiction of what this man
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: looks like. However, if I were this man, I would
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: be offended because, hey, you're gonna call me a less
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: attractive Jason Stathum.
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: Well, it's true, but like daw Jason Statham's jas he's like,
- 1:06:35Speaker 3: hang on.
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: Jason's Stathum if Stevie Wonder drew him from memory?
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: Like, what why would you say that to me?
- 1:06:42Speaker 3: I was expecting someone far more attractive. I was that
- 1:06:45Speaker 3: this less attractive Jason Stathum. Yeah, cause, wait a minute,
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: you can still seventeen hundred dollars of caviar from Whole
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: Foods hopefully Tess caviar.
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: Hopefuls Sess have caviar.
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: But I imagine that's probably not that much Cavier whoa look,
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: but his hands look a little full.
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: So let's se how much is some boluga cavia right now?
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: Oh?
- 1:07:02Speaker 3: Like fifty dollars.
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: I forgot this, So sevente hundred dollars worth is still
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: like a very pretty heavy full bag.
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: Well, there is caviar that's way more expensive, but not
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: Whole Foods caviar. Wow, all right, So he's just mad
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: for the fish eggs.
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: But I was thinking it would be from like a
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: sturge in like some beluga. Yeah, you know, because it was.
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: Just like fit all lots of fish had eggs and
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: called row you know what I mean? Like yeah, But
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: so he does this right in California. It happens in
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: December at the Whole Foods located on Irvine Center Drive.
- 1:07:30Speaker 2: The police department threw a necessary shade at the culprit
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: in a wanted Wednesday post asking for the public's help
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: finding the thief. So this is what they said. This
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: is the police department in Irvine.
- 1:07:41Speaker 3: This is not Jason Statham filming an action scene at
- 1:07:44Speaker 3: a grocery store last month. This man entered Whole Foods,
- 1:07:47Speaker 3: selected several items to appear as part of a typical
- 1:07:49Speaker 3: shopping trip, then concealed about seventeen hundred dollars worth of
- 1:07:53Speaker 3: caviar inside a paper Whole Foods bag that he had
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: brought with him. So he's sustainable. He ditched the basket
- 1:08:01Speaker 3: and exit at the store with the caviar. Instead. If
- 1:08:04Speaker 3: you recognize them, please contact Detective Drake. Detective Drake.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: Detective Drake is a hater, yeah, he said, not so
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: action film.
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: No, I gotta love it though. I like the police.
- 1:08:19Speaker 3: Local police stations are intentionally trying to go viral by
- 1:08:23Speaker 3: doing cute stuff like this. Like I've seen a few
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: posts on social media where like whatever marketing manager of
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: the police force.
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: Is now a millennial. The millennials are cops. That's it.
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: That's what it is.
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: They're trying to be funny.
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: They're trying to be funny. But this is very millennial coded.
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: Although I want my police to do police work, like
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: stop getting out here and asking us.
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: To tag people. Go go look in the streets. What
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: some wanted post us up? Do your job? What do
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: you mean you get on social media? Like tag us no.
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: A special wanted Wednesday?
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: Yeah, wanted Wednesday is kind of cute though.
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: Fugitive Friday, fugitive Friday.
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: Yes, even Thursday.
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: Yes, scammon Saturday, scammon Saturdays for sure. Sunday you take
- 1:09:08Speaker 2: off Sunday. Yeah, that's the day, that's the day of rest.
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: What is it made off Mondays?
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: Yes?
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you got something for the whole week.
- 1:09:17Speaker 3: I like that we don't know that many types of crime.
- 1:09:19Speaker 3: We're pure of heart.
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to think of like what we
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: could be mischief Mondays. And that's for like my mister
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: Meta Mondays missed Monday. Ye, yes, the state of stand
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: in was bald, had scruffy facial hair, and was dressed.
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: In all black.
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: He tried to disguise his crime by putting a handful
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: of every Day Adams in the basket. Right meanwhile, he
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: was like filling the whole whole bag. I love that
- 1:09:41Speaker 2: you said he was sustainable because I agree with you.
- 1:09:43Speaker 2: I feel like that's.
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: Really admirable of him.
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: And now I don't want him to get caught whatever,
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: like dinner party he's throwing where he needs this caviar
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: or you know, if he's selling caviar to like struggling
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: real housewives. Yes, yes, you know they get it off
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: the truck. Now, everybody can't maintain on real housewives. You
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: know a lot of them ladies renting those homes. It's
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: a scam for sure.
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: I think high end theft is definitely inexcusable. You can't
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: be stealing caviar if you need to steal bread for
- 1:10:10Speaker 3: your family. You need to steal like apples, bananas, go ahead,
- 1:10:13Speaker 3: I sup course.
- 1:10:14Speaker 1: Couvyar are so valuable.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: I mean it's really kind of unethical that we're like
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: cutting me sturgeons open, leaning them dry, and then chucking
- 1:10:23Speaker 2: them back in the oceans.
- 1:10:24Speaker 3: The Handmaide's tail of fish, it is.
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: And I mean we're kind of making we we create
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: the value of things. So whatever if I make a
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: you know, shoe string bracelet, and I charge fifty thousand
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: dollars for if somebody wants to buy that, that means
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: that it's now worth fifty thousand dollars.
- 1:10:40Speaker 3: It's called kabbala.
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called kabbala, okay, and I'm bringing it back, guys.
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: You know that's why we got scam Goddess.
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: We do all the red and stuff, and so yeah,
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: we're gonna do a scam bala.
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: Okay.
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: We worship the scam Goddess. That's not me, guys, I swear, okay,
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: some of the entity. Then I'm also worshiping. And you know,
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: we give what we can a month, yep, every month.
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: As much as we can get you closer to sky Daddy.
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you Yeah, maybe it's sky Daddy. That's
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: who we worship. We were Daddy, Scott Daddy.
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: That sounds like hot fucking Oh my goodness, Cataine, this
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: is such a good time.
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: Thank you so much for.
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here.
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: It's my jet lag and scratchy voice.
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: Oh you sound amazing. People are gonna love your voice.
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: It's like ASMR. I was very velvety. I really enjoyed it.
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: We always ask on this show, where would you like
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: to be found? Anything you want to plug?
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: Any social media's It could be anything.
- 1:11:34Speaker 3: Oh yes, my social media is kath bomb, just kah bomb.
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: I don't want Yeah, my parents called me that and
- 1:11:40Speaker 3: it was a mistake to put it as all my
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: social media.
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: I think it's kind of called kath very easy to
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: remember too.
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: Yeah, and then that's it. Like I live in the
- 1:11:50Speaker 3: UK and I probably won't be coming back to America.
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: That's smart.
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: I don't know what will be left, okay.
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah when the wars is over. Yeah, but I
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: don't know if people really want to go to these wars.
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: I feel like everybody is knowing, they're realizing that we're
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: being scammed.
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: Now.
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: I hate that it took like our white people so
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: long to'll be like, oh my gosh, like things are
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: getting better stashing people off the streets, they're shooting them
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: with no probable cause, and black people was like yes, yeah,
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: like we can't laugh at a time like this. It
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: was like it's always been to this time, though, so
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: you could laugh. Or like how we keep comparing everything
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: to Nazi Germany? And I'm like, did y'all forget that
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: the Nazis took their playbook.
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: From Jim Crowz.
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: We are the originators of the playbook. Kaitler was watching us.
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: The call has always been from inside the house. Yeah,
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: but I feel like people like to use nineteen or
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: nineteen thirty nine, nineteen, you know, thirties Germany because we
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: were the heroes in that case. So it's like, oh,
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: look at the this is getting bad, like when we
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: had to defeat those Nazis, and it's like, yeah.
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: We were the heroes in but we gave the heroes
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: the playbook. Don't forget that scam. I don't know why
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: I'm saying that right now. I'm going to get out
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: of this podcast, but uh yeah, y'all.
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: You can see any of my live shows that are
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: coming out March twenty six, I'll be in Chicago at
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: the House of Blues.
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: April ninth, I'll be in I need to look at
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: it because I can't.
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: I love that you remembered even one without looking.
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: I'm saying them so often that I was like, maybe
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: I got it, and I think I overshot it. Okay,
- 1:13:25Speaker 2: So March twenty six, Chicago, Illinois, I'll be at the
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: House of Blues. April ninth, i will be in Irving, Texas.
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: That is my hometown. Y'all better show out at the
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: Punchline Comedy Club. April eighteenth, I'll be in New York
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: City at graand Mercy. In April thirtieth, I'll be in
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: San Francisco, California at the Cops Theater. You already know
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: that show is going to be crazy congregation. You can
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: follow me at d Ida La cidv Elacy on all platforms,
- 1:13:49Speaker 2: and if you want to see the photos of all
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: of these very beautiful golfers and then a very very
- 1:13:54Speaker 2: ugly scammer at the end, to just look, you know.
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: And you can call me Diva Lacy sixty nine Investment.
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Diva Lacy sixty nine Investment Homes and.
- 1:14:09Speaker 3: Private dinners, homes and private dinners. It's a long handle.
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: You will remember it.
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: Yes, dam Goddess Scam got his stars and is hosted
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: by me Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess. Our producer is
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: Jessica sis Neros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia.
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle Stay
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: Scheming