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"Cannon Fodder" (Thursday, March 19, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Appreciate indructor gabage of comments yesterday about the agreeing that
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  Speaker 1: the president.
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  Speaker 2: Has sole authority. I guess in his bones.
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  Speaker 3: Amaze your friends. Here in first thing today by Joe, Thomas.
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  Speaker 4: George said, steal metem.
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  Speaker 5: sun comes up, drops a kid to school anywhere.
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  Speaker 4: Joe has everything.
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  Speaker 6: Jean all theses needs no one that Joe's as smile,
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  Speaker 6: He only as.
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  Speaker 4: Joe.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you for letting me be of service to you
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  Speaker 7: this morning. Joe on the station that tells you what
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  Speaker 7: went on last night and then gives you a chance
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  Speaker 7: to weigh in on how it's impacting you where you are.
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  Speaker 7: And you know I work with our friends at the
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  Speaker 7: Daily Signal as well. And joining us now for kind
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  Speaker 7: of a hybrid simulcast, if you will, is the head
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  Speaker 7: of No Jerrymandering va dot Org. He is a dear
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  Speaker 7: friend and a confess Democrat. On the program here is
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  Speaker 7: the great Brian Cannon, who did the unthinkable five years ago,
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  Speaker 7: which was actually a mend Virginia's constitution to try to
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  Speaker 7: protect voters and the districts that they lived in to
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  Speaker 7: keep the politicians. Brian, as you once taught me to
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  Speaker 7: keep the politicians from picking their voters and allowing it
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  Speaker 7: to go back to being the other way around. How
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  Speaker 7: are you doing this morning?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well, Joe. Glad to be talking with you.
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  Speaker 8: It's been an ongoing conversation for a number of years,
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  Speaker 8: and I love it, so thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 7: Certainly, when the constitutional amendment here in Virginia was passed,
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  Speaker 7: the concern was kind of put aside because constitutional amendments
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  Speaker 7: are very hard to or at least we thought they
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  Speaker 7: were very hard to change. So therefore, did you move
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  Speaker 7: on to other business? Did you, you know, start selling
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  Speaker 7: real estate? What happened to you after the constitutional amendment
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  Speaker 7: finally went into effect?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so in twenty twenty, it was, you know, probably
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  Speaker 8: the highlight of my professional career, maybe ever well, is
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  Speaker 8: passing that bipartisan redistricting reform where we had a special
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  Speaker 8: moment where the politics and the stars aligned and Virginians
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  Speaker 8: don't like jerrymandering, like that's just a pretty constant thing,
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  Speaker 8: but getting the politicians to agree to a structure that
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  Speaker 8: would ultimately give up their power to draw their own maps,
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  Speaker 8: pick their own voters, it was a pretty special moment.
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  Speaker 8: So it passed in Virginia in twenty twenty with sixty
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  Speaker 8: six percent of the vote, which was which which floored us.
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  Speaker 8: We were just we were so pleased with how that
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  Speaker 8: campaign worked and everything like that, and here we are
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  Speaker 8: pointed all back. I probably should have gone into like
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  Speaker 8: real estate or something like that. But I care about
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  Speaker 8: structural democracy reform, Joe. Yeah, yeah, I'm a Democrat, and
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  Speaker 8: you and I probably don't vote the same way ninety
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  Speaker 8: percent of the time when we go into the voting
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  Speaker 8: booths show. But I believe in your vote, to your
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  Speaker 8: right to cast a meaningful vote in a free and
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  Speaker 8: fair election, just as much as I hope you believe
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  Speaker 8: in mind and I.
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  Speaker 2: Know you do.
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  Speaker 8: And so there's some baseline structural problems in our democracy
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  Speaker 8: that we can't even expect our representatives to have an
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  Speaker 8: honest conversation about taxes, entitlements, etc. If we don't have
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  Speaker 8: a system that incentivizes them to listen to us. And
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  Speaker 8: so stopping jerrymandering is one of those ways, and there's
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  Speaker 8: a number of others ones.
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  Speaker 2: So I've moved on.
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  Speaker 8: I worked at a Fair Vote, which a national organization
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  Speaker 8: which works on rank choice voting and things like that.
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  Speaker 8: But I'm pulled back into this Virginia redistricting battle because
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  Speaker 8: the Dens are pushing through in a legal constitutional amendment.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and talk about that moment when the politicians, and
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  Speaker 7: remember the first it had to pass the House and
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  Speaker 7: the Senate in the Commonwealth of Virginia, and it did
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  Speaker 7: that overwhelmingly because regardless of party, the politicians in office
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  Speaker 7: seemed to realize that their constituents were aware of what
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  Speaker 7: was at stake and they were not going to allow
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  Speaker 7: them to mansplain away what they were seeing happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we built up a grassroots army on this.
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  Speaker 8: We when I started in January of twenty fifteen, we
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  Speaker 8: had about two or three thousand supporters, and when I
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  Speaker 8: left in twenty twenty one, we had.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty thousand.
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  Speaker 8: And that's because people of all political stripes just looked
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  Speaker 8: at this and said, this is the wrong way to
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  Speaker 8: do what we got to do better. And so that
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  Speaker 8: scared enough politicians into putting the putting it further on
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  Speaker 8: the on the front burner of an agenda. Because there
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  Speaker 8: was always some true believers both in the Republican Caucus
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  Speaker 8: and the Democratic caucus and said Brian, you're right. We
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  Speaker 8: could totally fix this, and I'm going to introduce a bill.
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  Speaker 8: But then no one ever cared, and so this became
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  Speaker 8: a bigger issue nationally, and we really had it. We
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  Speaker 8: struck gold in passing the legislation through at first a
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  Speaker 8: Republican controlled legislature, and then the November nineteen elections happened.
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  Speaker 8: Democrats took over and they tried to back out of
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  Speaker 8: the deal, but enough of them held in and we
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  Speaker 8: got it passed.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, don't let him back out. Don't ever let him
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  Speaker 7: back out of a deal. Brian Cannon is on with us.
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  Speaker 7: He's got the band back together. It's redistricting, no gerrymandering.
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  Speaker 7: VA dot org is where you find them and help
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  Speaker 7: them out, because it's a lot of the same players.
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  Speaker 7: It was only as you said, five years ago. Folks
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  Speaker 7: like Governor George Allen, former Virginia Senator Chad Peterson was
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  Speaker 7: one of the most vocal civil rights fighters in the
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  Speaker 7: Virginia Senate until they ousted him. Machiavellian Lee as well.
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  Speaker 7: It was such a whirlwind when the discussion of redistricting
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  Speaker 7: was going on across the nation, it seemed like Virginia
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  Speaker 7: wasn't paying attention because we were already covered with the
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  Speaker 7: constitutional amendments. So all of a sudden we hear about
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  Speaker 7: contributions from Eric Holder's Political Action Committee. Within a few days,
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  Speaker 7: it was a special session was called, and it seemed
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  Speaker 7: like before anyone had a chance to get a hold
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  Speaker 7: of her railing, this had already passed and was going
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  Speaker 7: to come to a calendar.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, it was crazy.
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  Speaker 8: It passed on October thirty first, and passed on Halloween,
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  Speaker 8: which is fitting for forw how snooky it is this
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  Speaker 8: amendment really is, and how it really does steal Virginian's
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  Speaker 8: meaningful votes of both parties, by the way, I would say,
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  Speaker 8: but yeah, and the other thing is we vote early
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  Speaker 8: in Virginia, and I think we vote too early. I
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  Speaker 8: wish it was just a couple of weeks. It's forty
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  Speaker 8: five days, I know. But over a million Virginians had
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  Speaker 8: already cast their ballot by the time the legislature passed
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  Speaker 8: this map at the last minute. And by the way,
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  Speaker 8: none of these Democrats were campaigning on this, right. It
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  Speaker 8: wasn't like Abigail Stanberger said, elect me and al Jerrymander Virginia.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't say that.
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  Speaker 8: In fact, she said the opposite right multiple times that
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  Speaker 8: she said partisan jerrymandering is detrimental to democracy. She said,
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  Speaker 7: We're visiting Brian Cannon was the fellow that elevated our
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  Speaker 7: constitutional district drawing to out of the hands of politicians
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  Speaker 7: and made it a constitutional amendment that was supposed to
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  Speaker 7: make it very hard to change it in Virginia. And
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  Speaker 7: we're watching a fascinating world unfold. Uh, Brian, we were
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  Speaker 7: talking about the Donald Trump effect that this is in Virginia.
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  Speaker 7: It is campaigned very blatantly and very and I give
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  Speaker 7: them some credit for now, Uh, some of the disingenuous
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  Speaker 7: billboards that made it look like Donald Trump supported this.
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  Speaker 7: They've got Barack Obama doing ads and Abigail Spanberger doing
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  Speaker 7: ads that are making it very clear that yes is
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  Speaker 7: the Democratic Party's vote and anyone else's no. It seems
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  Speaker 7: so it's becoming a little clearer to Virginian voters. But
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  Speaker 7: I think one of the things that you and I
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  Speaker 7: agree about, which may or may not be whether we
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  Speaker 7: like Donald Trump or not, is that you shouldn't allow
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  Speaker 7: this kind of thing to happen just because of one person,
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  Speaker 7: because that's kind of what separates us from a South
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  Speaker 7: American dictatorship, is that one person just can't overthrow the government.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're looking at Texas. You know, Trump ordered
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  Speaker 2: Texas to do this.
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  Speaker 8: Texas ended up complying, but California did too, so Gavin
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  Speaker 8: Newsom did this as well. And if you're just keeping
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  Speaker 8: score on partisan whatever it's about, it's going to be
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  Speaker 8: a wash. And Virginia doesn't have to participate in the
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  Speaker 8: toxic politics out of Texas or out of California. Nor
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  Speaker 8: do we have to listen to politicians in DC, whether
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  Speaker 8: it's Barack Obama or whether it's Donald Trump telling folks
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  Speaker 8: to redistrict. More states have chosen not to redistrict than
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  Speaker 8: have chosen to mid Declod Cherriman, right, and you've gotten
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  Speaker 8: an act, you know, Indiana, South Carolina, Kentucky, Kansas to Hanson,
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  Speaker 8: thet red states that said, you know, we don't need
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  Speaker 8: to participate in this.
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  Speaker 2: Virginia should choose to be in that category.
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  Speaker 7: Well, and I will you and I will agree on
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  Speaker 7: this much. When Donald Trump answered the reporter's question, and
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  Speaker 7: I think it was one of those Air Force one
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  Speaker 7: hallway conversations which I think are fun. But somebody asked him, well,
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  Speaker 7: Texas was just ordered to redistrict. Do you think they
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  Speaker 7: should try to add Republican seats And he said, well,
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  Speaker 7: you know, and sometimes when the president does this, it
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  Speaker 7: can be very maddening because he says things that you know,
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  Speaker 7: I think a professional politician would avoid saying. And he
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  Speaker 7: set this in motion by by making it seem like
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  Speaker 7: this was something and I just think it started this
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  Speaker 7: madness down the road to where we are here in
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  Speaker 7: Virginia and Florida. What do you make And I made
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  Speaker 7: a point of this earlier in this process that it
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  Speaker 7: seems like the Democratic Party of Virginia is taking the
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  Speaker 7: very opposite stand of the Democratic Party in Florida. Who
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  Speaker 7: you know, in Florida, there's claiming that Governor Desandis doesn't
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  Speaker 7: have the constitutional authority to call a special session. But
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  Speaker 7: then the Virginia Democrats said, hey, we have a special
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  Speaker 7: session hanging out there. Sure it's not about voting or
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  Speaker 7: districts or anything like that, but let's call it anyway
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  Speaker 7: because we can use it. It seems like, you know,
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  Speaker 7: even though they're both Democratic Party committees, they're taking opposite
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  Speaker 7: sides of the issue just because the governor's Republican in Florida.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, situational ethics abound here, Joe, right, Like, you've got
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  Speaker 8: a chance to draw. I mean, you know, the lord
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  Speaker 8: to draw your own districts and rig it for your
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  Speaker 8: team is compelling and strong, and that's what we're seeing here.
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  Speaker 8: I hope Florida doesn't do it. But I also think
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  Speaker 8: a lot of Republican states, like Florida included, are looking
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  Speaker 8: at this thinking, look, there's a big blue wave coming.
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  Speaker 2: Like we don't know exactly how big.
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  Speaker 8: But generally the party out of power picks up a
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  Speaker 8: lot of seats in the midterms. Last time Trump was
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  Speaker 8: in office, it was a forty seat pickup for Democrats. Like,
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  Speaker 8: there's a blue wave coming one way or another, and
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  Speaker 8: there's not any gerrymandering. You know, Florida can't jerrymander enough
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  Speaker 8: to stop that blue wave. Right, Virginia doesn't need to
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  Speaker 8: jerry manner. We actually have fair districts. So like, if
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  Speaker 8: Democrats run good candidates and good campaigns, they can pick
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  Speaker 8: up two more seats in a free and fair election.
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  Speaker 2: They don't have to rig it to win. So it
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  Speaker 2: is sad to see the Democratic part.
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  Speaker 8: But let me also say the Democratic Party of Virginia
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  Speaker 8: was not with us in twenty twenty when we passed
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  Speaker 8: this amendment to beginning.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true. They came along because the voters pushed
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  Speaker 7: them to Brian, is this perilous you talk about the
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  Speaker 7: ebbs and flows of mid term elections. They had a
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  Speaker 7: special election in the Hampton Roads area for an open
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  Speaker 7: seat delegate had passed away. It was already a Republican seat,
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  Speaker 7: but they're they're looking at the voter turnout there as
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  Speaker 7: some tea leaves saying it looks like they may have
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  Speaker 7: woken a bear out of its hibernation. And there's now
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  Speaker 7: concern that I see in Virginia that the Republicans might,
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  Speaker 7: you know, outperform anything any mid terms they had seen before,
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  Speaker 7: you know, and I'm not asking you to prognosticate on
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  Speaker 7: outcomes of elections, but it could be perilous for the
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  Speaker 7: Democratic Party to play this game.
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  Speaker 8: I think it is, Joe, you know, for Republicans, it's
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  Speaker 8: nice to see them waking up to this. This is
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  Speaker 8: an existential threat for the Republican Party in Virginia. And
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  Speaker 8: while I am not a member of the Republican Party,
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think grassroots in common sense, Joe, I think
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  Speaker 7: Is this Brian Cannon on with us from a No
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  Speaker 7: the same number of chairs for four times as many people.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Joe, you're right, and you were the first person
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and people say, well, why would how many more
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  Speaker 7: I said, I think a lot more would get done.
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  Speaker 7: to ask for I didn't say it wasn't his right, Teresa.
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  Speaker 7: I said, I wish he hadn't done it. I wish
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  Speaker 7: I can ever remember. I mean, and to the point
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  Speaker 7: Would I have preferred Donald Trump to say to the
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  Speaker 7: reporter that started all this, or do you think Texas
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  Speaker 7: should add Republican districts? Well, I think it would help.
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  Speaker 7: I think, you know, adding two or three or more
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  Speaker 7: districts would certainly help. It's not an unreasonable thought. I'm
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  Speaker 7: sure lots of people think stuff like that when they
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  Speaker 7: redistrict That's why they passed the nineteen twenty nine Permanent
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  Speaker 7: Reapportionment Act, Teresa. But do I wish he hadn't said
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  Speaker 7: it out loud that way? Yeah? I think I wish
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  Speaker 7: she would have said something along the lines of, you know,
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  Speaker 7: just can't do that. You're getting what Donald Trump thinks,
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  Speaker 7: all right? But because he won because he talked to
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  Speaker 7: the nineteen twenty nine Permanent Reapportionment Act, I bet you
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  Speaker 7: of precedent. Yeah, and what was that one hundred years
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  Speaker 7: to further rig the system against, you know, the growing
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  Speaker 7: prosperity of the black community. So, yeah, I get it,
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  Speaker 7: and I appreciate it. Teresa. I wasn't. I wasn't saying
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  Speaker 7: this mailstrom. But it is that response to that question,
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 16: I'm pretty sober.
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  Speaker 7: Damn dog.
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  Speaker 20: We're all afraid to speak the truth, and the more
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  Speaker 20: afraid we get, the more we hate the ones who do.
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  Speaker 7: You're ashamed to be American. Okay, that's cool, because honestly,
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  Speaker 7: Earlier in the week, you were talking about women voting,
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  Speaker 7: and I didn't get to hear the whole comment you
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  Speaker 7: made about whether or not this issue of non citizens
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  Speaker 7: voting had any connection to women's suffrage. Well, all right,
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  Speaker 7: so it was a question, Joel asked the question about
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: women who are brought up the subject of women's suffrage
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  Speaker 7: and voting rights, if you will, and it were women
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  Speaker 7: not considered citizens. And all I made the point of
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  Speaker 7: was that citizenship. And this is a dangerous thing to
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  Speaker 7: say because the keyboard warriors will pick up on it
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  Speaker 7: and misrepresent it. But the vote was not given to
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: citizens just because they were citizens. At the onset of
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  Speaker 7: this country, voting rights only came with the ownership of property.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: So if you owned property, you had a vote, You
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: were given the opportunity to vote. If you didn't own property,
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  Speaker 7: you didn't get to You didn't get to vote because
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: the property owners were the ones contributing the taxes. Therefore
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: their vote conveyed with the collection of taxes. And actually,
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: that first step of suffrage was more about getting more
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: taxes from more people than it was giving more people
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  Speaker 7: the vote. It was huh, well, you know, he owns
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: a horse, rents an apartment, but he owns a horse
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: and buggy, so that's property, right, And so it was
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: that first wave of suffrage in the United States was
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: about collecting more taxes from more people than it was
• 46:52
  Speaker 7: about giving the votes. The quid for the pro quo was, Okay,
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  Speaker 7: we're going to tax you on some of the stuff
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  Speaker 7: that isn't, you know, considered real property. We're going to
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: tax you on other property you own, and we'll give
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  Speaker 7: you a vote to go along with it. Women's suffrage
• 47:15
  Speaker 7: was again not because women were not considered citizens, but
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: even then the idea of a woman owning property was rare,
• 47:24
  Speaker 7: so you had you actually did before there was universal
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: serfrage that moved the vote out of qualified citizens' hands
• 47:37
  Speaker 7: into all citizens citizens keyword there, because unless you were
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: a property owner, you didn't get a right to vote,
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: and there were very very few female property owners, so
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: generally speaking, it was seen as a barrier from women voting.
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: So the suffrage, the second wave of suffrage, gave women
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: the right to vote.
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  Speaker 4: And so.
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  Speaker 7: There's waves through it, and most of it is driven
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: by the government's interest in getting more taxes out of people.
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  Speaker 7: And you can't really take taxes from somebody unless they
• 48:19
  Speaker 7: have a vote, So give them some credit for at
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: least being self aware enough to know that you can't
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: just take taxes from somebody and not at least give
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: them a voice in how the taxes are levied. So
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: that was the conversation that you heard there. Also on
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: the idea of the ICE and DHS director, and this
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  Speaker 7: whole I mean Mark Wayne Mullen should be writing a
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: note to Tolsy Gabbard and thanking her for running cover
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: for him, because I was watching a little bit of
• 49:01
  Speaker 7: the Mark Wayne Mulling hearings. It was a mess and
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: he was not coming across very well. And I don't
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  Speaker 7: know if this is just a favor for someone. I
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: don't know. I don't know who you're doing a favor for,
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  Speaker 7: except maybe Rand Paul. And I brought up Tom Holman.
• 49:21
  Speaker 7: I said, is this just okay? We tried this guy.
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: How about we just give you Tom Homan? And Louise
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  Speaker 7: writes into JT in the Morning Radio at gmail dot com. Joe,
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  Speaker 7: please don't take Tom Homan off the streets now. Of
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: course I don't have the authority to do so, but
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: I'm pleased that you think my opinion on this radio
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  Speaker 7: show carries that kind of weight. Her point being that
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: Tom Homan is doing incredible work on the streets leading
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  Speaker 7: the deportation of these non citizens. If you took him
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: off the streets made him a political appointment, that would
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: just make ice weaker. I see your point, and I
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: think that there is a management strategem to that. Too
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: many businesses fail because the next person up in seniority
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: gets promoted to a position. It's called in business the
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: Peter principle, and you always get promoted just beyond that
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: point of your competency, and then you're out. It's what
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: does in more careers in more places in the United
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  Speaker 7: States is you're really good at something and you do
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  Speaker 7: it really well, and then opening your your supervisor retires,
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  Speaker 7: and you say, I want to be the supervisor. Well,
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  Speaker 7: now the organization is week in two places, we have
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  Speaker 7: an opening, we have a supervisor that's new, and we've
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: just lost our best producer. In whatever position you're in,
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  Speaker 7: because management making the trains run on time is a
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  Speaker 7: skill set beyond just doing whatever is you do. My accountant, Paul,
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  Speaker 7: has a wonderful saying about his clientele. He says it
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  Speaker 7: wasn't intentional, but his clientele, as he looks at it,
• 51:21
  Speaker 7: are all these terrific carpenters and bricklayers and plumbers and
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  Speaker 7: radio show hosts and and folks who are excellent at
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  Speaker 7: own business or start their own business doing their profession.
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  Speaker 7: And he's like, and you all are awful business people,
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  Speaker 7: and well Paul, I'm going to try to not take
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: that as a as a rebuke. He said, you should,
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: He said, you people are great at doing whatever it
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  Speaker 7: is your business is set up to do, but you're
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: not a business manager. So he kind of takes that
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  Speaker 7: role on as accountant slash businessman manager to oversee that
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  Speaker 7: we don't completely screw the pooch it by just being
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  Speaker 7: you know, grab astic and not understanding that there are
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  Speaker 7: business decisions that have to be made. So he'll ask me,
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  Speaker 7: so you want to hire that person, what are they
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: going to do? Are they going to generate any revenue
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: for you? And I'm like, well, I really like them. Okay,
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: that's not going to generate your revenue. Dude. Okay, I
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: see your point, and so these are considerations. So I
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  Speaker 7: understand what you mean about taking Tom Homan off the streets.
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  Speaker 7: But I look at the way he dealt with Minneapolis
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  Speaker 7: and to take Jake and governor hands in the cookie jar,
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  Speaker 7: and I think he could do that really well. Anyway,
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: we we'll fire it up again tomorrow. Until then, I'm
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: Joe Thomas, so long and thanks for all the fish.
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