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25W BONUS: Justice for Davante + Matt Overton on NFL Journey & Playing for the Cowboys + Comical Fantasy Trades · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: You want to start with justice for Davante. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: You have been saying this after seeing the video, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You may have seen it ten million
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  Speaker 1: times a boy the time this posts. Because we recorded
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  Speaker 1: this late Tuesday. The guy walked in front of him.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't see him. There's an angle now where you
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  Speaker 1: see Dvante's walking off the fill with his head down
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  Speaker 1: and his arms come out after he already hits the guy.
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  Speaker 1: So and I can probably pull it up so you
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  Speaker 1: guys can see it on my phone. That does change things.
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  Speaker 1: It absolutely changes things. At first, I was like, why
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  Speaker 1: would he ever do that? Ever, as to the first
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  Speaker 1: angle that I saw, do you want to come look
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  Speaker 1: at it? Yes? Come over here, So I'm gonna show
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  Speaker 1: the video clip here of you guys can both come
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  Speaker 1: and you guys, give me your genuine reaction though, as
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  Speaker 1: you're watching it the first time. So here's Davante walking
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  Speaker 1: off the field. This maybe old news about this time
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  Speaker 1: the big posts, but here you go walking off. Oh
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  Speaker 1: and he got bumped. First Watch it again. Here we
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  Speaker 1: go walking, he didn't see him and run into him
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  Speaker 1: a push. Interesting, tell me that that doesn't change your
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  Speaker 1: complete mind? Heads down, walking boom right into it. It
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  Speaker 1: does look like he walked into a wall and didn't
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  Speaker 1: see Yes. So, and I was shocked when I saw
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  Speaker 1: Davante shoved the dude because I don't know him to
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  Speaker 1: be a dude like that. No, but I know Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I know I know people who who have played with him.
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  Speaker 1: So from what you know, it's like solid dude. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I heard about Davante. So if you watch that video,
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  Speaker 1: does your mind change a little bit? Absolutely? Or all
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  Speaker 1: of it? I would say all a bit, because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: where where was that camera guy going? Was he trying
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  Speaker 1: to cross the trying to get out the way, get
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  Speaker 1: somewhere else because the game was over. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's being maliciously get hit by a car by
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  Speaker 1: trying to cross the straight real quick correct, and so
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  Speaker 1: you don't go, oh, man, that car hit that human
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  Speaker 1: who jumped across and Jay walked. You go, why did
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  Speaker 1: that person jump across right there when a car was coming.
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  Speaker 1: There was an interesting reaction to Davante when he it's
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  Speaker 1: almost like he saw him last minute and tried to
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  Speaker 1: stop himself. And you can't see from up top that
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  Speaker 1: guy actually bumps into him first with this camera. So again,
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  Speaker 1: by the time this posts, just that may be a
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  Speaker 1: non story, but just no, we were the first one
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  Speaker 1: to scrimp. Just all right, well you guys were. I
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  Speaker 1: convinced you justice for Dan Well, even when I first
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  Speaker 1: saw the video. My take on this is like, these
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  Speaker 1: guys are barbaric athletes right like there. We want them
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  Speaker 1: to be tough, we want them to be angry. So
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  Speaker 1: anytime something like that happens on the field, I'm always
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  Speaker 1: just Or a fan gets beat up because he ran
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  Speaker 1: on the field, well that's that's okay, though that fan
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  Speaker 1: could have been stabbing people. Like if you compare this
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  Speaker 1: to uh Colosseum Roman days, because we have we've done
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  Speaker 1: a lot of work since then, as humans, We've grown medicine,
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  Speaker 1: mental hell, so I can't compare it to that, just
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  Speaker 1: kind of like you want to walk in front of
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  Speaker 1: a football player like that's what you're gonna get. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but still we're supposed to be better than that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we are developed human beings, and so they've played enough
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  Speaker 1: football too to be able to go we lost. Let
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  Speaker 1: me not freak out and start beating people up. They
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  Speaker 1: play football their whole life, from first grade to now,
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  Speaker 1: so they shouldn't be, okay, just punching people in the
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  Speaker 1: face or shoving people or running the people. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: justice for Davante. Yeah, I'm with you. I say it,
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  Speaker 1: unless it comes out later that this this angle was
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  Speaker 1: the wrong one, and then we'll just pull us from
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  Speaker 1: the whole podcast and I'll in wander to hear it.
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  Speaker 1: There's no justice at all. A couple of things, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: you want we put this up one day. When's the
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  Speaker 1: day we are putting it up? Wednesday? Okay, just making
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  Speaker 1: sure we'll quickly talk about the Monday night game, which
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. It's fantastic, great game. Well, pretty good. You
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  Speaker 1: thought the Raiders may actually win the well, you congratulated
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders for hanging in there. Yeah, I guess I
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  Speaker 1: never really thought they were gonna win. When they were seventeen. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, woll, this might end up like a Colts
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs game where you didn't see it coming so much
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  Speaker 1: that you're not surprised because nobody else saw it coming either,
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  Speaker 1: including the Chiefs. But once the Chiefs started moving the
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  Speaker 1: ball at will, it was like, all right, this is
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  Speaker 1: we know how it's going to end. I know you
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  Speaker 1: jumped on it when it was like Chiefs plus yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was seventeen to zero and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: what's the line? And it was Chiefs plus six, and
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  Speaker 1: I look like a genius in front of my family.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, watch this boy's dad's about to make some money.
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  Speaker 1: Jumped on it. We're about to do is make more
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  Speaker 1: smiles in France. That's what I'm talking about. That's about
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  Speaker 1: to make some smiles. But you know what, the Chiefs
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  Speaker 1: really didn't have an answer to Josh Jacobs, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs do whatever he wanted. That defense, He's run
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  Speaker 1: through them like crazy, he really was. Yeah. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders didn't have an answer for Momes, and then
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  Speaker 1: they definitely didn't have an answer for Kelsey. That last
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  Speaker 1: one wide open, wide open, tight ends. I mean listens
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  Speaker 1: a play action pass on the to the one you know.
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  Speaker 1: So sometimes you just commit to the run fully and
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  Speaker 1: there are people open because you're going You're going Madden
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  Speaker 1: are one run and that's when you send to all
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  Speaker 1: the people because you think either there's no chance for
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  Speaker 1: a pass or I got a gamble and makes something happen.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what they were doing there they do. But
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  Speaker 1: enga j you dropped three people back in the blue
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  Speaker 1: deep secondary, so if they throw a bomb, those guys
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  Speaker 1: are still there. But engage. It's all blitzic that for
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  Speaker 1: those three. Let me tell you something I'm insulted by
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I got like four things to say
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  Speaker 1: in a short time to say it. Number one, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna play the clip from the Calling cow Heard interview
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  Speaker 1: coming up Friday, which we did yesterday. I love that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Number two, mad Overton's coming on in a second deep
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  Speaker 1: snapper for the Dallas cow Boys, who used to be
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  Speaker 1: an intern for this shows amazing. We know him real
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  Speaker 1: well and he's just he's gone from to a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of teams. He had a good, long career with Colts.
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  Speaker 1: That's when we knew him. In the off season, he
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  Speaker 1: came in and turned for our show, and then he
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  Speaker 1: would go play for the Titans and he go play
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  Speaker 1: as a long snapper. What a story. It should be
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  Speaker 1: a Disney movie. Yeah, especially if he wins a championship.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the Cowboys won the super Bowl with him,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be amazing. He's he's a lucky charm for
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  Speaker 1: this good. So he's gonna be on and talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys, talking about Jerry Jones, talking about his It's
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  Speaker 1: really cool. That's number two. Number three is I get
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  Speaker 1: insulted when someone ss in me a dumbest crap fantasy
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  Speaker 1: football trade because they think I'm dumbest crap and get accepted,
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  Speaker 1: Like I respect Eddie to the point where I will
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  Speaker 1: not send him a tray just stupid anymore, because then
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  Speaker 1: Eddie will go, well, he doesn't respect me. He thinks
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  Speaker 1: I'm stupid enough to fall for this. We actually had
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  Speaker 1: a pretty I think fair trade last week, very very fair.
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  Speaker 1: I had extra on it back and my team is
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  Speaker 1: four and one and I got a real good team,
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  Speaker 1: so I've got some your players. But I traded him
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  Speaker 1: Pollard and I traded him. Yeah, so he's got two
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  Speaker 1: and scantling scored like twelve. They both did great. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Pollard had double digits as well. And for Kittle who
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  Speaker 1: hasn't performed at all and didn't play great this last week,
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  Speaker 1: but he didn't have a quarter, like throw the ball.
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  Speaker 1: But I was like, that's a risk I can take
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  Speaker 1: because I've been winning. So I'm going to take a
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  Speaker 1: risk on one player hasn't performing. Gonna give aaty two
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  Speaker 1: players that can perform, and if he doesn't want it,
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  Speaker 1: that's great, But I'm not going to offer him a
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  Speaker 1: trade that is a dirty dog trade. When people send
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  Speaker 1: me dirty dog trades, you think I'm an idiot. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's actually gonna hit a button with my thumb, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what's what are you looking for here? It's probably the
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  Speaker 1: same guy that sent sent me a dirty dog. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Mike scigens, since dirty dog trades all times, it's Adam Handbrake,
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  Speaker 1: isn't he? Isn't he Dairy Sanders? No, that's Mike signs.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it is. Yes. As soon as you started saying this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like that dirty dog gonna be like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: have no control in my thumb. Accept Do you ever
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  Speaker 1: get worried that you will do that? On accident. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: because he's an idiot. Let me read to you this trade.
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  Speaker 1: Let me read the trade. By the way on four
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  Speaker 1: and one. The only game I've lost is to a
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  Speaker 1: five and o team, and it was a pretty pretty
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  Speaker 1: good battle the in there. And I will tell you
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  Speaker 1: he desperately needs a quarterback. So he wants Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback who's one or two right now, Kwan Barkley
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  Speaker 1: the number one back in football already. What the what
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  Speaker 1: does he have to offer for those two? In St? Brown,
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  Speaker 1: who has got a buy a week this week, played
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  Speaker 1: last week, so he's not injured that I'm on a
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  Speaker 1: kind of a pitch count play count. But he's been killing.
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  Speaker 1: He scored forty for me one week. He scored. He's
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  Speaker 1: the number one guy in Detroit and that high powered offense.
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  Speaker 1: And he's also not injured anymore because he played the
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  Speaker 1: week before the bye, even just limited. This is who
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  Speaker 1: he's offered from Mahomes, Barkley and st. Brown by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Three to take three people from a team that's really
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  Speaker 1: doing great, You're you're just why would I do that
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  Speaker 1: for any reason? To shut my team down? And I
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  Speaker 1: can already tell you he's gonna offer you four players
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  Speaker 1: absolutely to make it look a little But I don't
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  Speaker 1: need more player. I don't need Vor Lawrence. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: switch out my homes for Trevor Lawrence. He's so stupid,
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  Speaker 1: like that's the first thing that he wants me to
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  Speaker 1: take Trevor because I would have to play Trevor Lawrences
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  Speaker 1: in that spot. So Trevor Lawrence is number one. Christian McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 1: who okay, draft in the first round. It's always hurt. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good back if you can get him as
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  Speaker 1: for two or three players yourself. But he's not somebody
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  Speaker 1: you want to take a risk on if you're already winning.
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  Speaker 1: I do see Sa Kwana McCaffrey in the same caliber,
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  Speaker 1: except Sa Kwan is actually killing it so far. It's
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  Speaker 1: so far he's doing great. Yes, if they're both injured.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, say Kwan doesn't miss any time a
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  Speaker 1: few plays, because I miss any games even when he
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  Speaker 1: went out already came back in. So okay, I would say, say, okay, um,
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  Speaker 1: my homes far above Lawrence, stay Kwan a little bit
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  Speaker 1: over McCaffrey. Next up, he wants to give me Deebo
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  Speaker 1: Samuel for St. Brown, San Franciscoes. No, throwing the ball
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. He is good. But there again, I would
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  Speaker 1: you have Kittle there and you have a quarterback that's
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  Speaker 1: not throwing the ball. So I wouldn't make that trade
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  Speaker 1: one on one. I wouldn't trade Debo one on one
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  Speaker 1: for St. Brown. That's a preference thing, though, but and
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  Speaker 1: I respect your decision on that. I think some people
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: would bite it, that for sure. And then finally he
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  Speaker 1: throws in j K. Dobbins. See that's stupid. He's been
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: trying to load, not give me j K. Dobbins for
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  Speaker 1: three weeks. My team is significantly worse if I take
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  Speaker 1: this trade. Dobbins. Is this dude where he's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's added bonus here, tick Dobbins. We don't want Dobbins.
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  Speaker 1: We don't want and I'm not giving you my Homes'm
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  Speaker 1: not giving you, say Kwan, I'm like giving you the
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  Speaker 1: reason that my team is four and one. And it's
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: not even about the players. It's about don't treat me
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  Speaker 1: like an idiot, because you're an idiot. I would never
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  Speaker 1: accept this. I'm not want floppy thumbs. The only one
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  Speaker 1: I someone agree on is St. Brown. And there's even
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  Speaker 1: on it. I get it because it's not one for one.
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  Speaker 1: I get but even I wouldn't make that trade one
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  Speaker 1: for one as I'm already four and one. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: don't need that trade. I'm definitely not giving up my
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: homes for Trevor Lawrence. It's it's not even he sent
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  Speaker 1: me one to tell them. We're discussing how stupid at
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  Speaker 1: trades are you want to call fatime? Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 1: love it. I gotta get off this in a second.
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  Speaker 1: Please put them on you like at a meeting I
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  Speaker 1: have to go to. Let's just see if he answered,
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  Speaker 1: then let me see what he sent me. Great proposal,
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: all right, listen to this one can go to him
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: and step at the same time. Go ahead, you want
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  Speaker 1: this one he wants Josh Allen, Davonte Smith, Damian Pierce,
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  Speaker 1: and he will give me Alan Robinson, Melvin Gordon McCaffrey
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  Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, he's just offering the same garbage
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  Speaker 1: of how you do we're on that we're on right
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  Speaker 1: now recording. Um, we're just talking about how much garbage
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Mike sign sends us as trades thinking we're stupid. Yeah,
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: does he send you trades? Yeah? He thinks, Yeah, that's
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: what I said. People to send as trades or they
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  Speaker 1: think we're idiots. We like them less just because they
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: send it because they think, well, that's what I'm like
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  Speaker 1: Mike as a person. Yeah, that's at all a little
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  Speaker 1: hard a lot people to take. Yeah, alright, wow, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Well Mike Scigence is not answering because he knows he's
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  Speaker 1: under the gun. Who's that? Oh Steve? Okay, he's actually
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: sounds like he's saying words and he was funny. I
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: don't like Steve. Yeah, oh we know, all right, buddy,
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: I hope you have a good daylight. I don't like Signs.
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  Speaker 1: What an idiot? I hate him as a prison all right, Okay,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: so here's what we're gonna do. Let me do this,
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: I mean the DraftKings. Let me do to calling cow Herd.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: There's a little clip of a half hour basically do
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: a calling out Herd. But this is us actually talking
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: about sports this week. The only part of this was
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: about current sports. A lot is about him and his
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: life and his career. I really loved it. But so
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: let me play this little clip of us talking about
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  Speaker 1: what do we start with the Broncos or rule Matt
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: rule getting fired in Carolina. So here's a little clip
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  Speaker 1: of Colin Matt ruling Carolina. What was the issue there? Well,
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  Speaker 1: in college football, the coaches seventy percent of it. He's
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  Speaker 1: the GM. He chooses the players, he develops them, he
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  Speaker 1: builds the staff. There is no owner. So if you
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: go look right now in the SEC, Lane Kiffin is
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  Speaker 1: really good. So was Nick Saban, So was Kirby Smart.
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  Speaker 1: Their teams are good, right, doesn't The quarterback isn't as
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  Speaker 1: big a deal. I mean, Miss Old Miss just lost
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback and they went and found another quarterback. It
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: revolves around Saban um or or Lane Kiffin in the
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  Speaker 1: Pact twelve best coach by Lincoln Riley or a Chip Kelly. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the teams are good. In the NFL, it's not sevent
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  Speaker 1: the coach. It's seventy percent the quarterback. Because the coach
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  Speaker 1: doesn't choose the players. And Matt never got the right quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Donald to Baker neither good enough to elevate a rebuilding roster.
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  Speaker 1: So in the NFL, you get Josh Allen, you're just
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  Speaker 1: gonna win games. You get Lamar Jackson, justin Herbert Burrow,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna win a lot of games. And I mean Belichick,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: one with Brady, arians one with Brady. Todd Bowles is
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: winning with Brady, right, like the coach becomes less significant.
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  Speaker 1: So I just think Matt never got the guy at quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think he goes to Nebraska or one of
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  Speaker 1: these college or do you think he sits out a
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  Speaker 1: little bit? Well, what I would do? First of all,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: he's gonna get a big check. I would go golf
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  Speaker 1: for about four or five months. Um, Wisconsin and Nebraska
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  Speaker 1: I think are be jobs. I think Oklahoma is an
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  Speaker 1: a minus job, but it's a good job. But Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: is not ok I think, well, I mean Venables, he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get three years, right, I don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know Oklahoma. Listen, you're moving into the SEC. You can't
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  Speaker 1: mess around here. I mean, go look at the SEC
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  Speaker 1: right now. Kentucky is now good. Um, I mean, look
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: how much better you feel about Arkansas's roster today? And
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  Speaker 1: they're battling every week? It's just hard and m now
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  Speaker 1: recruiting Bama, Old Miss Florida May Billy Napier. Maybe the
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  Speaker 1: right coach South Carolina is going Who's South Carolina is
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: going to be pretty good too, Like you can't go
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: into a conference on back to back terrible seasons depleted rookie.
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  Speaker 1: Remember the transfer portal, Bobby is great if your USC
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  Speaker 1: and building, it's terrible if you're Oklahoma and reelink kids
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  Speaker 1: are gonna stay around forever, especially the offensive players. So
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I think you let Venables, you figure out the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the year, and if it doesn't work, you pivot
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to offense. You get Matt rule. Um, we all know
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: this in our business right. If you make a mistake,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: own it, don't double down on it, pivot out of
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: it fast. I think they I think they whipped on
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Venables and it happens. Great programs do this. To final questions,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: what do you think the biggest issue is in Denver?
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: And I know Russ has what they said today like
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: an injury, a shoulder injury. Is it Russ is a
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett? Is it a combination or are there belly
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: no problems They're just figuring it out. I do think
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: the labor, you know, the lat injury is something. He
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: went from one of the great deep ball throwers in
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: the league to horrific in one offseason, So that doesn't
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: make sense. Also, Nathaniel se coordinators seventy seventy college and
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: pro either fail or bomb venables looks like a bomb um.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: You know, you guys at Arkansas got a guy that
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: does work. Kirby Smart has worked, but how many how
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: many of Saban's guys didn't work, how many of Belichick's
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: guys haven't worked, and they had this proximity to brilliance.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: So you know, my takeaway on Nathaniel Hackett is between
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur and Aaron Rodgers. Bobby, what did he really
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: do in Green Bay? Right? Like, if Kirby Smart, Kirby
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Smarts defensive coordinator goes to Oregon, he may work, but
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't Kirby run the defense? Really? So I mean, I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust Russell Wilson in his tenure career, his
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin career, his North Carolina State career over the Nathaniel Hackett.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: So I'd say it's an eight twenty Hackett problem today. Alright,
• 17:15
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• 18:14
  Speaker 1: guy is now the long snapper for the Dallas Cowboys,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: which we've been room for the guy for a long
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: time because we know him. He was playing for the Colts,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: called me up like he can I inter for your
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: show and I'm like, what, You're an NFL player? Goes yeah,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: but I like to do that too in the off season.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Is awesome. Yeah, And so he like answered phone, big
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: dude got paid printed papers and it got his coffee.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Just this is crazy, uh, And then he went back
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: to playing the NFL after that. It wasn't like he
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: was like, I want to start a careering radio. He
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: just did this in the off season and lives in
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Nashville now and he also has Eddie references. Don't want
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: to say too much about it. He started selling houses too. Yeah,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: he's a real estate agent and Eddie brought that up
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: later on. And so here it is. Here is our
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: our former intern, but now the long snapper for the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, Matt Overton. Hey, what is it like, Matt
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to get called by a team just randomly going hey,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: we need you here in a few Like what is
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: that process where they go, hey, man, we need you
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to come up and we're the Chargers are now it's
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, get here? And when can you get here?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: What is that? Typically? In my situation, man, you uh
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: kind of can expect a phone call on a Monday
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: or Tuesday following the games on Sunday. You know, in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: this case, there was an injury that occurred unfortunately, and uh,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I got the call from my agent on the Monday afternoon,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: just kind of staying stand by, get some bags packed. Um,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: looks like you'll be going to Dallas for a workout.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: And uh, they called me shortly after that and said,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: we're going to book a fly for you and you
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: may not come back, so we need a guy. So
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and in that case, it's kind of like, yeah, let's
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: let's pack the bags. And this is the at this point,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: this is the fourth trip that I've made um so
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: far this season to a team, and this one, this
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: opportunity I knew was little bit more significant. Um that
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: they needed a guy right away. So packed the bags,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: kissed the wife and kids goodbye, and flew to Dallas.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And I've been here ever since. So walk us through.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Because we met you when you were a cult and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you spent some seasons with the Colts. Just kind of
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: walk us through your your NFL career real quick. Uh sure, Yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's uh so, I'm going on year eleven, which is
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: incredible to even think, um, considering I went undrafted out
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: of a small Division two school from Western Washington, UM
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that doesn't even have a football team anymore. So, but yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I started my career in two dozen and twelve was
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: my first official NFL season with the Colts, and I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: spent five years there during the time when I met
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: you guys, that's where I was playing. And then I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: got released there in seventeen, and then I went to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville that year, played there for two years, um, and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: then brought me to the Titans, in which prompted my
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: wife and I had to move to Nashville like full time.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And then I went to the Chargers last season and
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: now here I am in Dallas. So it's it's been,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: uh Ever since my time in Indy, where I spent
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: five years, I had a little stability there, you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: being with the team for multiple years and kind of
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: calling at home and setting some routes there. Ever since then,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it's been kind of a year to year thing. Um,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: it's been a new team, new city. I had to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: had to move and make that adjustment, and uh um,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: we're just kind of we've been through this before and
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: we're grateful for the opportunity to be here. And it's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: it's pretty wild. I mean, I know Mike and and
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: all those uh and Eddie and the Dallas Cowboy fans know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: but Jarry's world is a different place, man, So this
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: experiencing this place is uh, it's pretty wild. Yeah. I
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: do want to talk about cowboys in a second, but
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: mostly are you just in like extra good shape right now?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I like to think so. I mean, I honestly, I uh,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I've been training pretty pretty hard. It's yeah, you look
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: like lean and mean right now. Yeah. Hey man, I'm
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm the old guy in the in the in
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the locker room now, so I gotta I gotta make
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: sure that uh guys think that I'm still a little
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: bit younger than I really am. So, uh, I'm thirty
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: seven now, man, you look good. So at thirty seven,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: obviously you're the long snapper. But you still have to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: run down and make tackles, right sure. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: block a block a block a grown man and go
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: go try to make a tackle. Man. So it's gotta
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: be athletic. Yeah, that's crazy. Okay, So let's talk about
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys for a second. Eddie, you die hard? Yeah,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: go ahead. Mattio, Hey, I have to apologize first, because
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, like he said, we've known Matt since he
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: played with the Colts and I went to the Jags
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: and he he was played for the Chargers, played for
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the Rams. Uh. I don't think you played for the Rams.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: You did a game, right or did you? Did you
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: join that? I was, I was on the practice squad
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: earlier this year, you know. Okay, but I've never texted
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Matt so much, and I want to apologize because now
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I'm watching the games. He's part of the Cowboys nation,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and so now after every game, like Maddie, Maddie, let's
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit. I'm so excited that you're Cowboys. Dude,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: you're a Cowboy. I do want to real quick. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: just feel like you did if I'm in a monologue
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and question. But well, here's the here's the question. So
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: we're watching the game on Sunday, uh, and I'm excited
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to have you on the team. And then you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Cowboys score and it's time for the extra point and
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: then it looks like there was a premature snap from
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: my boy Matt Overton, And I just want to know
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: we have you on here, Maddie. What happened there? I
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: mean it was I was definitely a mistake on my
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: my part, maybe a little a little legitter, you know,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: my first game. Uh, really just working on the timing
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: with these guys here. I've had a few days just
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: to kind of get acclimated as quickly as possible. And
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: man I got out there and uh, you know, with
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: field goal a lot of people don't understand, but with
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: field goal operation, it's all about timing. And so my
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: timing was slightly off because I can't see the kicker
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: or or most of the holder when I'm in my stance,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and I just based it off of a kind of
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: a snap count. Um, And man I I miss cute
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that one big time. So not the greatest stars as
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a Dallas cowboy. Um, But bounce back and try to
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: keep my composure the entire time and just go out
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: there and finish strong. What do they say to you
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: whenever they fly you in and and are you compete?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Because you're about on flying kickers in there. They've they've
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: brought four kickers in there competing for the job. Is
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: that what happened with you was that you and other
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: other long snappers? Well, what's that? Like? What? Yeah, what happens? Yeah?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Typically they I mean the reality is there's not a
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: lot of us on the street that are available. Um.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: And then when it comes to like guys with experience, UM,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: there's not It's even even less so in my position,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: you know, going into the season as a free agent,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: who has you know, tay years of experience. When you
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: look at the list of guys, you know, I'm like
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: one of maybe two guys that are available to have
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the experience. A lot of guys are young, uh inexperienced,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and so they typically will will bring a group of
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: guys in you know, five, you know, three to five guys,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and there'll be a couple of veterans like myself mixed
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: in there with some young guys. UM. And this situation here,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: since it's you know, kind of mid season, most teams
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: UM would lean to have an experienced guy over over
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: a young guy. Not saying that the young guys aren't
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: as good, because there's some really good talent UM, but
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I think it just favors someone like me that has
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: the game day experience, who's who's been through the you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the grind and all that kind of stuff of the season.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: So I did really well in my workout, have some
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: familiarity with the coach here, and um, yeah, I got
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: got the nod after the workout and they signed me
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: on on Wednesday. Do you get to keep the helmet
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: for every team you played? That's a good question. Every
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: team that I play. I I do keep my helmet.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: However they do charge you. Um, depends on what kind
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: of model you have. There's different models. But I would say,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: like maybe I don't know, five hundred bucks, I'd get one,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: but I kind of now there's you know, you can
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: go get there the replicause that Dick Sporting good for
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: about not not the not the real deal. Have you
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: met Jerry Jones? I have not, but he gave an
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: epic postgame speech and locker room so, uh, I've been
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in close quarters with him and and uh apparently guys
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: are a little uh uh kind of star struck around
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: him a little bit if you don't know him, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: because he does carry kind of that aura and that
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: kind of celebrity. Um, but he's here every single day. Um,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I mean it's like I said, it's different in Jerry's world.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You really are in like our own little bubble over
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: here in Frisco, Texas. So, um, it's pretty cool. And uh,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean it's one of those things where I've been with,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you know, some good teams, but you know, when you
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: have you're wearing that starts, it takes it up a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: few notches. And and the facility here is like a museum. Man.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. And there's like there's like tours going
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: on while you're practicing, so there's like random groups of
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: people that come in and nowt um, they're like, I mean,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it's it's wild. It's it's just completely different. And uh
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: so it's really really cool to experience kind of like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the stardom of you know, historic franchise like the Cowboys.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: He invited me to come to his personal guest and
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: do some stuff with them in December. So I'm gonna
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: come up. You gotta do it. I'm gonna try out
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: for Deep for the Deep Snapper two No no, no,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: when you go, that's Matt's job. Hey, So could you
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Let's say the center goes down and they're like, oh
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: my god, we don't have another center. Absolutely no chance.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: We got a deep snapper. What does line the line
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: rush or dak back like six more yards? Could you?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Could you be a center as well? No? No chance,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: no chance. I would get absolutely destroyed by Aaron Donald. Yeah.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: We agree. It's like last minute, like last minute and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: always alright, alright, what here's a generic culture question. Walking
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: into different locker rooms, do the cultures all feel different?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And if so, are some drastically different? Yeah? Um, I'll
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: give you a perfect example. You go from a winning
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: culture to a losing culture. And I'm not gonna name
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: any names from my experiences, but um, you go from
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a winning culture UM to a losing and it's completely different. Um.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: You when you're in a winning culture and the standards
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: really really high, UM, there's kind of just that that
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: expectation that is that is just there, it's known. Um,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: there's like continuity in that locker room. There's leadership. Not
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: to say that it's not leadership in every locker room,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: because there is, but it's just in different ways. UM.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And then when you go to a place like this
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: UM where winning is expected, um, and you know the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Lombardi trophy is something that they go after like legitimately
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: every single year. Um. You could just you could just
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: feel it, you know. So I've been in locker rooms
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: where you know, it's it's pretty common to lose, um,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and the expectation isn't as high. Um. And then maybe
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a new head coach every couple of years,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and so that the turnovers you know, you know, pretty
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: pretty uh common every single year with like roster turnover,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: new coaches, all kind of stuff, um. And so there's definitely, uh,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: there's definitely different levels to it. So when you're in
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a locker room, and obviously I don't want you to
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: name any names or even indicate anything specific, but we
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: root as fans and are all our eggs in the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: basket of our teams. We live and die with them.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: I'm guilty of this as well. You are too as
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: a fan of different things. Are there ever just players
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: that are like, I don't care if I want to lose,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get my check. Um. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: for sure, I think there's you know, you have you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: seventy guys on a on a football roster. Fifty three
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: of those guys are active and you know there's guys
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that you know, just play their career and and as
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: they get older, maybe maybe winning is not as important
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: as it once was and um, or maybe maybe they've
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: already won and it's just they they've they've got that
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: ring and you know, they like they say and that
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: it's just the phrases chasing the bag, you know, chasing
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the bag of money, and they get the money and
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: they're good, you know, and maybe maybe just their passionate
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: their fire kind of dwindles over time. UM. And then
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: those guys that have just continued to chase it every
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: single year, you know. UM. And so I would I
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: would definitely say there's there, there is that UM. But
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I think those guys don't last very long. I mean,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: if you're only in it for the money, UM, I
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: don't know why you put your you know, if you're
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: an offensive alignment for instance, you know, I don't know
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: why you'd put your body through that, um yere any
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: year out if you have no passion for the game. UM.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And so I think I think those guys eventually will
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: will fizzle out if there is no no passion to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: or desire to want to be better or help the
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: team win. So but um, you know, once the guys,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: once they get their bag, man, it kind of they
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: just check out. And I mean, I don't blame them,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I get it, but um, you know, I think those
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: guys get weeded out fast. And the first time I
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: got I'll call it my bag, I was like, Dang,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I work hard and get a bigger bag. Dang, I
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: work hard to get a bigger bag, and then give
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: away this bag. Like I I understand, alright, Like I understand,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I just don't relate to that mindset. I guess. Um.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: But on the other side, we have three final questions
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: for you, and do you save your Dallas Cowboys question?
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I haven't kind of you, I have another one. You're
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: closing the show with their third final questions. Good like Eddie.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Eddie hit me with a positivity question. Don't we don't
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: need to relive in you know, the dark moments of
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: one play. And I know the nation was wondering, Matt,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: That's why I was asking. On the opposite side of that,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: On the positive side, who you've seen at practice and
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: they're the opposite. They are so dedicated, they have a
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: fire in them that is probably bigger than the bag.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: They're getting in their bag is still big? Who is
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that that you've seen you like, God, dang, that's crazy.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Like how dedicated they are specifically on this team or
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: just in general. From your years of playing in the league,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: who have you looked at it been like in admiration
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: of they are dedicated, they are focused, and they're always
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: ready to go. I mean, I would have to say
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Adam Vince Terry just because I mean he's the greatest obviously,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: way is Justin Tucker the greatest? Now? Or is Adam
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Vinitterry the greatest? I think, Um, Justin Tucker is is
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the best in the league. There's no question he's going
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame for sure. Um
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: but I think in statistically he'll probably be better than
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: anybody including Vinitary and those guys that are I think
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Morten Anderson, who's in the Hall of Fame. Um. But
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I think when you think of like iconic
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: kicks and the kicks that really matter, snowick, I mean,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think you can ever, you know, duplicate that.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: And uh, I mean not to not to discredit what
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Tuck is doing, because he's incredible. The guy's machine and
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: he's the best in the league. But my goat is
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: always minitary, always will be. Yeah, I don't think anyone
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: thinks you're discrediting anyone. I mean you can it's hard
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to argue Vinitarry isn't the greatest of all time because
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: of the big kicks that he's made. I mean, people
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: would compare that snow kick to like my second dance
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: on Daswing with the Stars. You know, it was just tough.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: The elements weren't there. You had to perform athletics. Uh, eddie,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: what is your We have two questions left? You get
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: a cowboy question? Go ahead, all right. At So when
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you look at old video clips of the Cowboys when
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson was there, this locker room speeches at the end,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: that's it's really were like, how about them Cowboys came
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: from and they've got I mean, the the energy of
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that locker room after those games was like amazing. And
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: now you watch TikTok and you see almost the same
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: vibe in the Dallas Cowboys locker room after these few weeks.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: What are you seen in there? Do you see the
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: same kind of energy coming from this Dallas Cowboys team? Well, dude,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: I gotta take it back. But I grew up a
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Niner fan, so every year it seemed like the Niners
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: and the Cowboys would play each other in the NFC Championship,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: And so I despised the Cowboys. Michael Irvin, Troy Aikman,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I mean I did, I even though they were great.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I was a Niner fan, man, Jerry Rice, Steve Young
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: and always going after the boys, you know, but uh no,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: I mean there's always been that respect level from Afar
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: just you know, playing against them and kind of seeing
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: you know what the organization is a little about, not
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: only from not just from being kid watching watching games
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: all the time, but there's always been some sort of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: respect and admiration for the Cowboys. And obviously, um, you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: you know who Jerry, Most people know who Jerry Jones is. Um.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: You you look at all the iconic coaches that they've had,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: um since back in the day. Um, and then you
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you talk about those uh those speeches, man, and uh,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you know how about them Cowboys has always been kind
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: of that tagline at the very very end. Um. And
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I've only I've only been here for a
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: couple of coffee, man, So I haven't been here very long,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: but I can tell with coach McCarthy and just the
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: coaches that they have here, Dan Coin, the de coordinator, UM,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: John Fossil or special teams coach Ak Bones, like they
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: just have like this. There's just like this kind of
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: aura right now that's going around that even though we
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: don't have dak at at quarterback, you got you know,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Cooper rush back there, you know five and oh as
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: a starter. Um, the defense is playing lights out. There's
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: just like something you can you really can't put your
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: finger on it sometimes, but there's just like that vibe
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that you just feel like the confidence is through the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: roof right now. I know it's a long season, but
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: after this win in that locker room, I feel like
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: there was this like maybe like this little turning point
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: where all right, you know, we're four on one. We
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: just beat another tough team on the road, that defending uh,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: you know, super Bowl champions on the road, our defensive
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: lights out, we have our backup quarterback. UM, it's almost
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: like the the sky's the limit once that gets back
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: and I think this team is gonna roll. And so
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: that that that speech after the game this past weekend
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: was was very similar to what you're talking about. Um,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: because Jerry Jones was in the middle of it, and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: uh he kind of broke us down as a team
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and and uh man, it was it was. It was
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty fire fire to be a part of that
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: for my very first time. My final question, I just
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: got chills. Okay, it relaxed like I just got a boner.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I didn't say, but yeah, but we
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: know that's why you met. Oh boy. So here this
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: is what I want to say. Final question. So at
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the end of the game, we see a lot of
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the jersey swapping. Now you know, soccer did it forever
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and now we said a lot of an NFL players
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: doing it. What's the rule? Could you call it like
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you're playing the Eagles next week? Do you have to
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: do someone on special teams? Or could you be like
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt if I can have his jersey, Like what's
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the rule? Because that I would just aim high and
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: then slowly fall down with this person that said no.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, so, first of all, it's pretty crazy because
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: there's some teams that have rules about jersey swap because
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: you gotta think about, like for someone like me, the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: long snapper. You know, my my jersey, My jersey doesn't
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: get like torn and ripped like maybe the running backs does,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: right or the linebackers. So those guys have like maybe
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: ten uh jerseys of every single color for the season,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe even more. But maybe I only have one
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: duplicate so if I give away my jersey, only have
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: one left and they have to pre order some. More So,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: when jersey swapping became like a big deal, like teams
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: were finding guys like bucks for the swap in their
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: jersey because they don't have another replacement for those guys
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: as we're paying Bucks to swap, which in my mind
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't really worth it unless you just absolutely had to
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: do it. But now it's so common that, um, a
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: little veteran move is to go into the if you
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: know that you're gonna swap with guys, like you look
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: at the schedule, I'm gonna swap with my boy Matt here,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, that and the other. You go
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: in early in the year be like, hey, listen, I'm
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: gonna swap five jersey this year. Charge me uh for
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: five jerseys at the cost of what a jersey is
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: like three bucks and I'm just gonna swap out those jerseys.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: It may not be the game War one, but I'll
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: have one replaced, a replacent jersey. I'll swap with guys
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: and then that's typically what I do. But to answer
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: your question too, about like who you asked I when
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I was with I'll go back to Venitary. When I
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: was with Vinitary, there was guys like of all positions
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: that came up to Vinitary asking for a jersey swap
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and thought that was the coolest thing ever. Um. But
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: like for someone like me to go up to yeah,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts or a J. Brown, But hey, dude, I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: don't you don't know me, but can you you want
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: to swap my jersey? You want to swap, let's make
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: it happen. And you would be It would be embarrassing
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: because they would probably just strug it off and laughing
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and tell me to kick rocks. I do. I do
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: swap jerseys with the Snappers though. That's kind of our little,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: like little small fraternity thing. If if I'm good buddies
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: with the Snapper all, I'll swap jerseys for sure, and
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: and we we've we've done that in the past or
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I've done it with you know, Ben Terry
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: when I played against him, and you know guys that
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I've I've been friends with, So that's that's pretty common.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Like Andy, Reid and Belichick would just swap hoodies. They're
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: shirtless at the game, which they're holding it up, nipples
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: out chest, hair, aren't like, all right, it's my guy here. Yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I don't know who want to
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: see Andy read like that, Hey listen for that would
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: be awesome. Hey, we're dude, we're pumped for you. Well,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I'm always like, you know, sometimes you have friends and
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: buddies who you don't talk to that often, but you
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: watch them so much of social media that you feel
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: like you know what's going on. And when you were
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, I was watching you in the locker. I
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: mean when we were talking about getting you on, I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know how long it's missed up
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: talked to you because I feel like I've just been
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: kind of um consumed in what you go through every year.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I guess you and I have talked whenever I was
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: interviewed a guy that you knew h for a job
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: that I had here. But we're just so we're proud
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: for you and it's awesome, like and aside from football, like,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: you are someone who represents like and your hat says
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: it to stay ready, like just go to work and
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: do the work, and eventually you get a call and
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: if you don't, well you are ready if you ever
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: got it. And so just just proud to see the
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: effort in the grind. And Eddie's proud that you're a cowboy,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I mean realized that's awesome. I mean my friends of
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: freaking Dallas cowboy like, it's amazing. I've told everyone, by
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: the way, Matt that you're a cowboy now and you're
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: my friend, and they're all looking at too, and he's
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: never talked about you more than right now. Hey, let's
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: let we gotta get you out to a game. Man,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring them out when we do come up,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: when I come thro with jail, I'm gonna bring Eddie.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Don't forget to Matt's still selling houses, so are you still?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Like how are you showing houses while you were playing
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: for the back? Real quick for us? Showing down on
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Third Street. And I'll tell you if you've got time.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I got a quick little story about last year how
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: how crazy it was. So I was like kind of full,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: full blown in the real estate there in Nashville. And
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: at the time. At the time I was helping the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: long stamper for the Chargers, I was helping his family
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: relocate from California to Nashville, and I was um showing
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: them houses all over the place. We ended up finding
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: places in Murphy's Borough for them. But I'm not kidding, man,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: that the day their son got hurt, the Charges called me,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and I felt so awkward. I called, you know, the
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: parents and said, hey, listen, I don't know if you
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: know this, but the Charges are signing me coincidentally. Um.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to be Yeah, I didn't want the
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: relationship to spoil or them to be upset about it.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: And they were the nicest people. But I'm not kidding you.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: The day that the Charges called me, they said, can
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: you be on a flight at like five pm? And dude,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I had showings, man. I had to go out. I
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: had to drive four or five minutes to Murphy's Borough
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: show some houses. And I told my agents I have
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: to go show these houses before I got on a plane.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: That's my due diligence through my clients and I did that,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and um, the one house that I showed was the
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: house that we put an offer and for this family
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: and it and it worked out where they got an
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: accepted offer. So it was like it was a crazy
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: kind of a series of events last year where you know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: like you said, I was showing houses in the midst
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: of getting signed to a team and moving and and
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I still do it from afar. So I have a
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: nice little team there in Nashville, and if they need
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: to help wherever they can, then I just had them
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: do a showing or But right now I do it
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: very very very part time. He's showing house to family
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: and injuring their son. If I can have a job
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: at the same time, the guy can do it all.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: He can do it all at the same time. Hey,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: we're really we're really proud for you, Matt, and thank you.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that, seriously. Keep it up and I'm sure
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: we'll talk to you. We'll watch you and we'll talk
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: to you soon. All right, buddy, I appreciate you. Bobby,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: all right, Eddie, Matt over to see you, buddy. All right.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: That's that. Thank you guys for hanging out. That is
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: the Wednesday Midweek show. Here any quick thought anything you
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: want to say? Yeah, Eddie, is there a better tight
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: end than Travis Kelsey? Especially fantasy? Like, is there any
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: tight end worth? I have them? I plan two leagues.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I hate planning two leagues, but I have them because
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: they left him and I took him late in the
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: second round. I was like, if you guys just gonna
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: leave crazy. I didn't plan to take them, but if
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: you're just gonna leave them, I'll take them. The greatest
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: thing ever did. When you draft, tight ends are usually
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: in the back of your mind. When am I gonna
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: get a tight end? No, Travis Kelsey needs to go
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: a sap. Okay, here's Mike signs again. Let me see
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: if I can get them on my homes. For Trevor Lawrence,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: what I called him? I tried a FaceTime remember birth? Yeah?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: But then he said who yeah? Because we all I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: tried to FaceTime all together. That's him. Terrible person. I
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: don't know this Mike scigened guys, but I don't like
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: him either. He's like one of our closest brands. We
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: just dog on him all the time. Here's my final thought,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Mike Siens, I love it, idiot, idiot? Are you like
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: an answer now? See in class Tuesday. Hey, you're on,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: You're on right now, So don't say anything that's gonna
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: get you in trouble. Yeah, but we're sitting here on
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: the podcast talking about how you just in garbage trades
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: because you think we're garbage and idiots. And I went
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: to the whole trade that you sent me, which is
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: a complete joke, and that's how you value us as people.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna accept something so stupid. No, not
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: at all. Um. I feel like I gave you the
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: best player in the league, Christi McAffrey. He's not take
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: one and number one back in the NFL right now,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: number one scoring back buddy Buddy on a four and
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: one team, number one back. McCaffrey doesn't even have a
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: quarterback now. A lot of teams you can't win a
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: game and it's hurt. And he's still putting up top
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: five number okay, top five, put up number one. And
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: you try to give me Trevor Lawrence, Patrick Mahomes. It
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: seems like a solid deal to me. It's a terrible
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: car salesman. Okay, anything you want to say, Um, these
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: are all just this launching points. So if you're interested
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: in Caffrey, you know I'm interested in in my homes
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: and I'm not. I'm not giving you my homes or
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: sake one the reason why team is four and one, Well,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you don't give them to me, you trade them to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: me better pieces. You don't have any better Trevor Lawrence,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Let's have Josh Allen. That's all right, buddy, you saw right?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: All right? Love you all right? There he is. I
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: love you thought. You know what though, I do have
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen, so I can trade him, then he can trade.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: You can try Josh Allen for Trevor Lawrence. Do not
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: do that. We need to figure out on the NFL
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: needs to figure out this whole rough of the password
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: thing happened again on the game last night. Pretty bad.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Just overreaction to everything that happened to you. That right,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: it's the same thing. And then like you said, we're
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: saying it's going to even out at some point, but
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just tired of looking at Twitter argue over it. Well,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the pendulum swings very hard both ways, and so now
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: we're on that edge and it'll find itself. And everybody's like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Well, yeah you should, because the
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: reps are being told we have to protect our most
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: valuable asset. You can't have both, that's right, you can't
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: have both. There's a reason. When I come to work,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: security meets me out and it sports me in, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: when Eddie gets here, they're like, oh, we don't go
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: there's no secure good luck, good luck getting in. I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: have to call someone like, can someone let me in? Exactly?
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: You know, life comes at you that way sometimes. All right,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: we'll see you guys on Friday. By everybody,