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From Snow to Soil John’s Winter Takeaways 120625 · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, my friends, to the show that never ends.
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  Speaker 2: middle of the night, good middle of the night. It
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  Speaker 2: we are broadcasting from Tiger's house here in beautiful San Diego, California.
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  Speaker 2: John as back as you can hear, because the show's
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  Speaker 2: coming back through his phone. Anyway, that's kind of a
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  Speaker 2: weird intro. But yes, good morning. If you are live
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  Speaker 2: and watching us live, it is morning time here and
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  Speaker 2: we are Guarding America. Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, Tiger Palafox,
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  Speaker 2: and as you heard through the courtesy of John's phone,
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  Speaker 2: he is back. John, welcome back, and thank you for
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  Speaker 2: the feedback.
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  Speaker 3: Literally the literal feedback. Now that's literally a correct use
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  Speaker 3: of the word literally. I don't think anybody heard that.
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  Speaker 3: We heard the Yeah when did when did when did
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  Speaker 3: literal change its definition in the literal sense? Yeah, because
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  Speaker 3: no one uses it correctly anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot of words nobody uses correctly anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Like there you go the word like like you know,
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  Speaker 2: like well, you know, like tiger, like you know, No,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me.
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  Speaker 4: Well, when you started the show and you said welcome back,
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  Speaker 4: my friends, I was gonna make a comment because I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know quite the intro you were doing.
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  Speaker 3: I never know either, And.
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  Speaker 4: It's the start of the show, so it's not like
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  Speaker 4: they're coming back from anything. They're starting with us. But
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  Speaker 4: then you kind of went into the show that ever ends.
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  Speaker 2: But but yeah, but we and you know that's from
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  Speaker 2: don't you the Emerson Lincoln Palmer?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a let's say, looking and sounding great
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  Speaker 2: from from Data. Wow, thank you Data. That's good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. But back to what you were talking about, Handsome
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  Speaker 3: by the wood is it is good to be back.
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  Speaker 3: Quite a change in temperature between Idaho and California.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, you said that your highs were like equivalent
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  Speaker 2: to our lows.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much yeah, and they had like nighttime temperatures into
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  Speaker 3: the twenties. It's still warm for them. They haven't had
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  Speaker 3: their cold weather yet. And daytime temperatures were in the forties.
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  Speaker 4: And it was nice weather though in the sense of
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't rainy, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: No, it was mostly sunny, a few overcast days, but
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  Speaker 3: it was it was perfect weather for traveling to garden centers. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and to see what was out there. And and I
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  Speaker 3: was just amazed at the variety. I think I told
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  Speaker 3: you guys on the phone last week, the variety of
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  Speaker 3: plants that were out there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The number are the number of varieties of new point
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  Speaker 3: setting is just shocks me every time i'm there. And
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  Speaker 3: I haven't been to your store for Christmas, Tiger, But
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  Speaker 3: do you have all those new varieties?
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  Speaker 2: We talked about that last week, didn't we? The colors?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we we and we have about eight or nine
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  Speaker 4: varieties of point is there now maybe even more maybe
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  Speaker 4: maybe it's more like eleven, because you know, we had
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  Speaker 4: we had about three or four different whites.
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  Speaker 3: Then we have you have the white white now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you used to be just cream cream, it's what they called.
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  Speaker 3: And then we had a few different pinks, and then
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  Speaker 3: we had another some of the world real hot pink
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  Speaker 3: almost yep yep.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know they have the different style the
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  Speaker 4: rosemr smaller. You know what I've seen is and I
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  Speaker 4: don't like this trend, but they go with the smaller
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  Speaker 4: point setia because it's not the blossom what are they called,
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  Speaker 4: it's a smaller bract, so it's kind a smaller. I
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  Speaker 4: always loved the point with a very large leaf. I've
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  Speaker 4: always liked that. That was always a thing that I thought.
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  Speaker 3: That gave you remember the point sets used to be
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  Speaker 3: one flower per stem, and that gave you a huge,
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  Speaker 3: massive yet and now they're pinched because they can save
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  Speaker 3: money on cuttings, right, so you can get a plant
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  Speaker 3: that has lots of flowers, but they're smaller.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and not as not as I'm not liking that
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  Speaker 4: trend because a lot of them have they're designed to
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  Speaker 4: have that smaller compact.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one that that I saw, and I only
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  Speaker 3: saw one of these plants, so I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: it was unusual and just happened to come out that way,
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  Speaker 3: or if it is a style of point setia, but
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  Speaker 3: it was a variegated point SETI a red bras, but
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  Speaker 3: instead of white stripes or striped like jingle bells, it
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  Speaker 3: had uh, occasional white spots. Oh, pure white. Gotcha, like
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  Speaker 3: a clump of snow landed. Yeah, yeah something.
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  Speaker 4: No, I haven't seen that one. You know, like the
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  Speaker 4: areas that have the spots. It's kind of like what
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  Speaker 4: you're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Except more spaced out. Oh so it's very yeah, sparse, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: sparse spots spots. So it was so unique. I almost
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  Speaker 3: bought it, but you know, we we were bringing home
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  Speaker 3: other things, and uh, it was already too much. We
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  Speaker 3: were packed as much as we could get to get
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  Speaker 3: to Idaho.
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  Speaker 2: Everything go through TSA okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, except on the way back because I had because.
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  Speaker 2: You had all the stuff you were bringing back from Idaho.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I had two succulents. And they anytime you bring
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  Speaker 3: back plants, they catch it. Yeah, because of the nitrate
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  Speaker 3: fertilizer that's in the plants. They always stop and check that. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, they open up, they see it's plants.
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  Speaker 3: You tell them what you know, Yeah, there's two plants
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  Speaker 3: in there, and then they pass you through. They don't smile.
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  Speaker 3: They don't smile. No, I think that's a new regulation.
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  Speaker 3: If you smile, you're fired. Yeah, but it's nice to
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  Speaker 3: go through there and not have to take your shoes
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  Speaker 3: off anymore. Oh, yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Huh not doing that anymore? Huh No, No, why what changed?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: There comes the skepticism.
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  Speaker 4: Well, maybe maybe they have something that they.
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  Speaker 3: Check that now now you have something to get there.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever noticed that if there's something that's never
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  Speaker 3: happened before and it happens one time, they have to
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  Speaker 3: pass a law to cover that for the future. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and it would it probably would never happen again. And
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  Speaker 3: the first time the shoe bomber happened, it didn't even work.
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  Speaker 4: So no, it's always those funny weird laws. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like no gardening on a Friday after a full moon.
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  Speaker 3: Speak we have one.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, right, did you plant with the supermoon? N No,
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  Speaker 4: but I did see lar.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 3: I did tell my wife, Hey, you need to come
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  Speaker 3: out of the get to the Superman pretty. I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was interesting that at at night you could see
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  Speaker 3: your shadows, you know, so bright, right, that's how bright
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  Speaker 3: it was. So that was kind of cool. Our friend
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  Speaker 3: Rick and Star Idaho said he's in Dana point today.
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  Speaker 3: Big difference. Yeah, I'm sure he's appreciating that, but said
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  Speaker 3: he'd buy me lunch next time in Idaho. So maybe
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  Speaker 3: I'll hold you that to that, Rick, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe hold out for dinner.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I don't know about.
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  Speaker 4: Skip two visits if it turns into.
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  Speaker 3: It, exactly right. I did get to take the grandkids
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  Speaker 3: to the movies, and at home, we had watched Zutopia okay,
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  Speaker 3: which I had never seen before, so I won't spoil
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  Speaker 3: the ending for you you haven't seen, thank you. But
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  Speaker 3: we did go to the movies and to see Toopia too. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I hear it's good, you know, I thought it was okay,
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  Speaker 3: I actually enjoyed them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we went on a Tuesday, and either Monday or Tuesday,
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  Speaker 3: excuse me and the kids. We went in the movie
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  Speaker 3: theater and there were three other people there, yeah, because
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  Speaker 3: everybody was in school. But my grandkids are homeschooled, okay,
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  Speaker 3: so they Yeah, it was really nice and they were
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  Speaker 3: the seats that you could lay back in, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so comfortable.
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  Speaker 4: So I did this for the very first time two
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  Speaker 4: weeks ago. I went to a movie and is.
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  Speaker 2: This that Saturday when when you and I were driving
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  Speaker 2: back from John's house. Was it you had to keep
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  Speaker 2: the kids busy?
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  Speaker 3: No? No, no, this is different, different.
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  Speaker 4: And our friend bought tickets and so I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're going with them, and.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to a movie.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, number one movie theaters you know, not
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  Speaker 4: doing as well as they used to. You know, John
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  Speaker 4: said there was two people in it, so they have
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  Speaker 4: to be uh, they have to figure out a way
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  Speaker 4: to get people into the theater. Right. I went to
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  Speaker 4: this movie and it was a four D movie. Four
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  Speaker 4: D four D?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, have you ever done on anything?
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  Speaker 2: I don't even you can't take kids to that, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so just check this out. So four dimensional, So the
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  Speaker 2: seats move, okay. Well, there's big fans and like misting
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  Speaker 2: system in the theater.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I've done okay.
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  Speaker 4: And then there's these things by your head that blow
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  Speaker 4: air in water at.
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  Speaker 2: You to match what's going on in the screen.
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  Speaker 4: So we went and saw Wicked. So in there there's
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  Speaker 4: a tornado. You felt like you were in the tornado
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  Speaker 4: watching this movie.
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  Speaker 3: You know what.
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  Speaker 4: I used to laugh at my dad because when he
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  Speaker 4: used to take us to the movie theater, I'd always
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  Speaker 4: look over and he'd be asleep. Yeah, exactly, well, not
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  Speaker 4: too long ago.
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  Speaker 3: I am that dad.
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  Speaker 4: Now that when I go to a movie theater like
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  Speaker 4: Zutopia too, I'm like, oh, cool, all right, And then
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  Speaker 4: fifteen minutes in the movie, I'm like, it's dark and warm,
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  Speaker 4: the seats are nice, now right.
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  Speaker 3: You know I can't fall asleep though, do you? Oh? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I can't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I can't fall asleep in a Ford movie.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that's funny because several years ago, same
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  Speaker 2: thing with me, my son Eric, you know. And then
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  Speaker 2: so I wasn't even know where that I dozed off
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  Speaker 2: and he's, hey, hey, hey, wake up to go? No, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm awake. He goes, Really, what just happened? I go,
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  Speaker 2: you know the guys are, Yeah, the guy with the
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  Speaker 2: sword and the girl. He goes, you didn't see it.
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  Speaker 2: Don't give me that there was no sword, there was
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  Speaker 2: no girl. We're gonna have to take a break. We've
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  Speaker 2: got the quote of the week, Oh by you, not
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  Speaker 2: one of us, but but from the originator. So thank
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  Speaker 2: you for joining us. We are back at Tiger's house
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  Speaker 2: here in San Diego. John is back. I'm Brian Maine, Tager,
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  Speaker 2: Pola Fox, John Begnasco is still going to Magnasco. I
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  Speaker 2: trip up on that sometimes, John Begasco. And when we
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  Speaker 2: returned the Quote of the week, We're going to take
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  Speaker 2: a break for our good friends and welcoming all on
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  Speaker 2: BIS Talk Radio Facebook Live. BIS Talk Radio back after
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  Speaker 2: these messages.
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  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: We are back from the break. Thank you to those
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  Speaker 2: that are tuned in on BIZ Talk Radio, are regulars
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  Speaker 2: on Facebook Live. It's good to have the boys are
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: back in town. And you've got the quote of the week, John.
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  Speaker 3: I do. And you know, I've been using a lot
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  Speaker 3: of epigraphs in the new book. I've written in the
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  Speaker 3: literal sense, in the literal sense, right, And so I've
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  Speaker 3: been looking at a lot of quotes from authors, and
• 11:35
  Speaker 3: this one's from John Steinbeck, and he said, what goods
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  Speaker 3: the warmth of summer without the cold of winter to
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  Speaker 3: give it sweetness?
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  Speaker 2: You know, every season, for the most part, kind of
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  Speaker 2: prepares you for the next. When summer rolls around, it
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  Speaker 2: starts to warm up, You're like, oh, so nice that
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  Speaker 2: it's warming up. And then you get into August September,
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  Speaker 2: You're like, I can't wait till it gets cold again.
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  Speaker 4: No, but it's a funny thing, right in the sense
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  Speaker 4: of what that quote is to think. Do you do
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  Speaker 4: you really think it's true? You know, John, as a gardener,
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  Speaker 4: if your roses never stopped blooming, would you appreciate them
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  Speaker 4: just as much if they as if they do now?
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  Speaker 4: Where they if there was no downtime, if they if
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  Speaker 4: they go dormant for here? And you're like, would you
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  Speaker 4: appreciate them just as much if they never stopped?
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  Speaker 3: Do you mean if they were like the ones in
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  Speaker 3: reels where you just scattered the seed and then they
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  Speaker 3: Have you seen those?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: It is so disgusting in the in the hostas now
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  Speaker 3: the electric blue hostas that you just throw some set
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  Speaker 3: out just I don't know how that stuff can even
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  Speaker 3: be allowed. But no, I but I agree with you.
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  Speaker 4: The rose plant always had a flower on it, would
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  Speaker 4: you appreciate it as much as as it goes dorm
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  Speaker 4: it in the wintertime?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: No, I agree. I agree. You appreciates things because of change.
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  Speaker 2: The different cycle away from it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they're taken away from you, so you have to
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  Speaker 4: appreciate it when it's not.
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  Speaker 3: You know, well that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in the anticipation of a rose that
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  Speaker 2: begins to bloom. Oh, look at that. In a week
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  Speaker 2: or two, we we.
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  Speaker 3: Can look at your life that way, Tiger. Do you
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  Speaker 3: feel would you think the same way about your life
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  Speaker 3: if you were still the high school football stud that
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  Speaker 3: you used to be, exactly if you were the world
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  Speaker 3: class surfer. No, all the time. You have to have
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  Speaker 3: that down time.
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  Speaker 4: You have to have it taken away from you.
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  Speaker 3: You have to have you have to have lost.
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  Speaker 4: Something in order to appreciate what you have.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you also have to mature. You know. It's one
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  Speaker 3: thing to be a sprouting seed. It's another thing to
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  Speaker 3: be in full bloom. And it's another thing to age gracefully,
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  Speaker 3: you know. And what wi other life's developing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so no, I mean it's definitely I think,
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  Speaker 4: especially right now in our era. And I know I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna get on the old man soapbox here, but because
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  Speaker 4: everything is, because everything is so instant gratification, and like
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  Speaker 4: you said, because there's this concept and idea that something
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  Speaker 4: can happen overnight, you know, when it really can't. I
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  Speaker 4: think this this era that we live in almost doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have anything ever taken away. We talked about this, going
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  Speaker 4: to the grocery store. If I want a Kiwi, I
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  Speaker 4: can go to the grocer anytime and have it. If
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  Speaker 4: I want a tangerine, I can go to the grocery
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  Speaker 4: store anytime and have a tangerine. You used to talk
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  Speaker 4: about being home growing up to Detroit. Have to be
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  Speaker 4: the season, and you walk in the grocery store and
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  Speaker 4: you see those for the very first time of that year.
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  Speaker 2: There's an excitement and you were like, yes, oranges are
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  Speaker 2: in season. Well, you know this discussion, You know what,
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  Speaker 2: it reminds me of a book in the Bible? John,
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  Speaker 2: what book in the Bible do you think our discussion reflects.
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  Speaker 2: We're not We're not. At the end of the movie Ecclesiastes,
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  Speaker 2: there's a time for everything, a time to be born,
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  Speaker 2: a time to die.
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  Speaker 3: Book of David. You know what a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: don't realize is that he was he was quoting Bob Dylan.
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  Speaker 2: No, he was quoted, Yeah, he was quoted exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: And the birds also, the birds exactly And when I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid, I had no idea that's where the
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  Speaker 2: song was from. I mean a kid kid.
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  Speaker 3: Not from the book of Ecclesias, right exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But it goes with what we're saying that that nothing
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  Speaker 2: is forever.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what I don't understand is that, and I've
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  Speaker 3: always wondered about it. Solomon was supposed to be reputedly
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  Speaker 3: the smartest man that ever lived, right, but he had
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  Speaker 3: a thousand wives and concubines.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you're smart about buying trouble so true. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he did have a lot of stamina, didn't he, Dana.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Tiger says, your yard looks huge, right,
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  Speaker 3: it is huge. You have what an anchor?
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  Speaker 4: No, not not quite, not quite, but almost.
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  Speaker 2: So what he did with Tiger bought the property and
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  Speaker 2: the guy said, I'll throw in the house with it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, that's really what I bought you. I bought
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  Speaker 4: the property exactly exactly. You can do whatever you want
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  Speaker 4: to this later, if you want to. You know, it's
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  Speaker 4: so funny because John and I have very similar worlds
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  Speaker 4: in that sense where John's house, John's home is his yard,
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  Speaker 4: and then there's a house that Shannon keeps and that's yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and that's the same thing here.
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  Speaker 3: My home is the yard.
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  Speaker 4: And then Janine you know, keeps the house in the
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  Speaker 4: sense of whatever she wants to do inside the house,
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  Speaker 4: by all means, go for it. I could care.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm surprised at. About two years ago,
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  Speaker 2: I took probably fifty percent of the plants in my
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: patio and put them along the sidewalk out to what's
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: officially ho Way property. All the roses are lined up,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I've got some palms out there, banana tree or whatever.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Not once as anybody from the old ho Wa association
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: to the new one said hey, you going to move these?
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: In fact, the other day the manager was talking to
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: some landscapers right in front of our house, and I'm like, oh,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: not about me, but I'm like, okay, this could get ugly.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: He's going to tell them to clean that.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Uh nothing, nothing now, remember I'm kind of tucked away.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: So but I've I have forty seven plants. What doesn't
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: sound like a lot, but in an area where I am,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: that's a lot. But I haven't situated in such a
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: way to where it looks like talk.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: About in total, you're just talking about out front, yes, yeah, yeah, and.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Then there's the patio anyway, So that that's our story.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: So I've learned how to potscape.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: A lot of people do that.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: I wanted to keep going with the newsletter because you know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of good information on their Christmas trees.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: You know, right now is the time of year Christmas trees.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: You had a great article. Did you write that one
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: about how the trees continue photosynthesizing?
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: And that's something that people don't always know too, is that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: You're talking about cut trees.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: So you know, depending on where you're at. You know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: you got Noble for Douglas, for Scotch Pine Frasier for
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: all those cut Christmas trees. You know, they are basically
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: a cut flower. You try to keep it in water
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: and you try to keep it absorbing water for as
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: long as possible. But people don't realize that it is
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: actually in your home, photosynthesizing and past. You know, it's
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: still alive, moving around to some extent.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: And because they're they're basically growing. Even though there's no roots,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: the stomata which transpire and let water go into the
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: air are opening and because of that the tree can
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: dry out, which is why you need to have it
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: in water. I never understood when we came to California,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: because you don't see this bad keast that they would
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: just put a wood stand on it, yes, and then
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: bring it in the house. And I had never seen
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: that before, but you know, that's that's the worst thing
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: you can do for maintaining the freshness of a tree. Now,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: when you guys at your nursery, do that do you
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: put that on or do you have the the plastic
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: bowl on with it?
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Always plastic bull Yeah, yeah, and you know we give
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: it a fresh cut, so you cut off about an
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: inch or so of trunk to you know, it's like
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: when you get a bouquet at home and you do that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: We're going to take a break.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, hold that thought though, I will.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Don't let it slip away. All right, We're going to
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: take a break. Biz Talk Radio Facebook live from Tiger's
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: house in San Diego. Brian May and John magnasco Tiger
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: pellafox back after these messages. I'm BizTalk Rating.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio show with Brian,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: John and Tiger.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: All right, that was one heck of her break. We're
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: glad that you're with us. For those just joining us, welcome,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, the door is always open, right, knock and
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: we'll answer it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, By the way, a quick answer to Rick's question,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: he wanted to know if when I was an Idaho
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: we went to Edward's nursery and that was where the
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: point sett that I was talking about. That's where I
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: saw that all right.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Back to cutting trees and so on and so forth.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: If you're going to get a cut Christmas tree, you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: you want to give it a fresh cut, and then
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: you want to get that in water as soon as possible,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: just like you, you know, you when you bring flowers home
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: and you give him a nice little snip and then
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: you put them right into the vase that you're going
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: to keep them in. And then I mean everybody asks me, oh,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: what's the secret to keeping a tree looking fresh or
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: you know, staying fresh?
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: And then Tiger says, I can't tell you.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: It's a secret, right, don't want to be a secret anymore.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: But but I mean, in reality, all it is is
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: the room that you keep it in. You just got
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: to do your best to keep it cool. I mean,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: you know, like you said, John, it's got to be
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: well lit, you know, because you want it to be
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: not in a dark dungeon room. But you don't want
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: that room to be having a fireplace that's running twenty
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: four to seven.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: You don't want to have your heat.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: On and keeping your room at you know, seventy eight
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: degrees with zero percent humidity. That's just going to dry
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: anything out right away.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Now, when I got up this morning, it was fifty
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: degrees inside my house. Would that be ideal for a
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Christmas tree?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: You're that's like keeping your Christmas tree in a refree
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: So you know, here's the difference that'll last, That'll last
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: all the way into February fourth.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: With those tamps in the house. John tell Shannon, I'm
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: gonna go outside and bring the orchids in.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Speaking of that, it's time for me to cut it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I lost the last.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Little so it's time for you to cut this down.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Cut it all the way down where you go to
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: do it, and take it outside.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: There you go. Kevin, your buddy, Kevin wants to know
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: where to find a balsam fur balsam. Yeah, but he's
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: he's in Cordelaine. I don't know if he wants to
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: come down here for it. Yeah, exactly. Do they have those?
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: And well, you know, what would you did? You do
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: you see any trees up there? Like varieties?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: You know, the ones I saw were nobles and net
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: firs and some Scotch pine. But even when we were
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: in Detroit, we would get balsam fur, but not until
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: just two weeks before Christmas. And the reason was they
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: lose their needles the quickest, but everybody wants them because
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: they smell so good. Right, yeah, you got a two
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: week window, right. Yeah, we used to bring them in
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: here in California.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you do we We don't because
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: like you said, it's.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they lose their needles and even keeping it as
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: like a nursery. Yeah yeah, right.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: You know, do they get their nobles from locally or
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: do they bring them from Oregon Washington?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I would think probably Oregon in Washington. It's just my guess. Yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: but I've never seen I haven't seen northern Idaho. I
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: don't know if there's Christmas tree farms up there or not.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Which which I also want to mention because this is
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: something that people talk about all the time too, you know,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: fake tree like country.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Oh, I want to do good for the environment, so
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I you know, get a reusable fake tree. And and
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: I mean we can go round and round on theory
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: and what you kind of can do about for the
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: environment or whatever. But these Christmas trees are not coming
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: from a forest where people are going through them and deforesting.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: This is this is a corn, This is a soybean.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: This is a crop that they plant and then they
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: replant and they maintain and you know all.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: And you never you never worry about using too much corn. No,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: you know you're not. They're cutting down the cornfields.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like fish farms. Yeah, when they're running you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: a baloney farms, because we fished them out of existence
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: almost you know, speaking of that we went to No,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: it stays in line with what we're talking about. So
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: so last week we went to Bully's, local restaurant here
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: in San Diego. Very inexpensive. You get a good deal.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Whatever you walk at, you feel like you got your
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: money's worth. I look at a Baloney's on the menu,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa after you know, thirty forty fifty years,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: three ounces sixty dollars wow, six ounces one hundred and
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: nine dollars wow. And I said, these are coming from
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: a farm. She goes Yeah, I think this is from
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: an abalone farm somewhere down south because over the years
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: they you know, we fished them out of existence. You know,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: skin divers are always down and just you know, there
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: was no rules of regulations at that time.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you would always have a baloney sandwich when you
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: were a kid, right.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Love abalony, Yeah, abaloney.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Abaloney and mustard drink.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: It's a blooney sandwich.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm I'm slow. I'm slow on the uptake.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I wasn't here for a week. Yeah, it used to
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: media and I wasn't here for two weeks.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: What gave you two weeks to write a lot of material? Yeah,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: so go ahead and try it out. Yeah, blooney mustards Okay,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: real quick, tiger.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I wanted to know why they advised you not to
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: put a flock tree in water. Okay, I wouldn't know
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: if they advise you, I would, But it's similar to
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: what we're talking about. Right. The trees are still alive, right,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: But on a flock tree, the stomata are covered.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Covered, they're like when you talk Italian, I love it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: They're still not he's cover They're not Uh, they're not
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: going to be transpiring and they don't need to take.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: Up water, correct, So it's kind of and.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: The flocking is somewhat fireproof too, right, it is.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: It's a flame retardant, right exactly. So flock trees don't
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: require a bowl because you know, once you flock the tree,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: it's preserved. It's preserved in the way that you flock it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I thought flocking was illegal in this country, not a
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: few only.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in your home, it's fine if.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: It's between consenting trees.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: But you know, and that's the thing is with with
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: those trees. I mean, I mean, heck, you can walk
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: into a home with a flock tree and in February
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: it still looks the same as if they bought it
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: in December. So that's why they don't put the It's
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: kind of a a waste if you do water it
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: because it doesn't really need it, like John said, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: once it's all covered, it's not transpiring anything anyways. But
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: the beauty of the flocking is that it is a
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: flame retardant, so people do sometimes do it just for
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: that idea that it doesn't dry out. Yeah, sure tree.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: What were we talking about before the flocking and before John,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: you went on to the farming. We're talking about Christmas
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: tree where they come from the corn corns, you know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Christmas trees. Okay, so Christmas trees are coming from a farm.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: And you know, like John said, you're not gonna just
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: stop eating corn because people are cutting down corn where
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: the fake tree, hey, by all means, go for it,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: use it year after year. But in a lot of ways,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: that's almost worse for the environment because number one, they're
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: gonna end up in a landfill. Now two, you know,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: it's the whole plastic and everything else behind it. So
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: Christmas trees are a great way to cut Christmas tree
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: is actually a great way to kind of you know,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: support that idea, that concept, and it is and it
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: is okay, it is good. You don't have to worry
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: about where. You know, we're not cutting down forests for
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: these things.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: And we have mentioned before that that in my opinion,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: there we go. The ninety percent of everything you're told
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: is good for the environment is actually bad. Yeah, exactly,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: it's usually has no effect on the environment or is harmful.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: But that being said, always do your research.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you know your own opinion, make your own decisions.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Fine, Brian and I were talking before the show today
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: about something I think. He said Dana told him something
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: she had seen and he sounded that he was skeptical
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: about it. And he said, where'd you get that? And
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: she said, saw it on the internet. You know, there's
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the news the internet.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: So the point isn't research it voted two or three
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: different sources and then form that opinion based upon you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: it's like they say, get a second opinion from a doctor.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime he or any time that you're skeptical on something,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: just ask people on Reddit what the truth is, or
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: just call us, call us and ask us. You know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: we're perfect.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I do want to ask Lilah because I was out
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: at her house a week ago and I was they
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: had a leak, an irrigation leak, and we found this
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: hose bib that was could.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Be a great just completely off topic, but it just
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: popped into my head that if you were hybridizing alium
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: plants in the alium family and you were breeding leaks,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: would an irrigation be a great variety an irrigation leak? Right,
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: name name a leak that? Yeah, Oh that's so funny.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: That's a good one. That's a good one.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, went two weeks off.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: I can come up with some leaks wiki anyway, I'm
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: sorry I interrupted you.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: I hope they got that fixed because.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: We've got a minute to go to the break.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Actually, you know, this is something that was really cool.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: The reason why they knew is the water company sent
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: them a letter saying we found that your your usage
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: normally high, and so that that instigated them to actually
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: like reach out to me and say, hey, we have
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: a problem, can you come help me out? So I
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: was like, wow, that's really neat that your water company
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: didn't just send you a thousand dollars bill and be
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: like whatever you found it, Yeah, we found it all right.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, when we come back from the break, I have
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: something i'd like to do that I haven't asked you
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: guys about. So I think I'm going to do it anyway,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: because if I ask you might say no. I say no.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: So we have one more segment coming up before the
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: top of the hour news, which takes place on BIS
• 30:26
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• 30:29
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• 30:31
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• 30:33
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• 30:37
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• 30:41
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• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Radio, Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Brian John and Tiger.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, back from the break. Now a reminder, because last
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: week we did this for the first time and it
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: seemed to work out just fine. We kind of break
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the show up into parts one in parts two, So
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: after we finished this segment.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: But almost like the first door and the second hour.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: You could call it that if you want to, we're
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: going to shut things down at the end of this
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: segment and then willing to re establish ourselves on Facebook live,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: right Tiger.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, what that'll look like is that we've gone away. Yeah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: they'll say that this video has ended. You go back
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: to our main page. There will be a new one
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: that will pop up, and then you start.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: So give it's like starting the show all over again.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: So give us a couple of two or three minutes
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: after we take that break, and then we'll start anew
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: This is one way that we've discovered that keeps us
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: going without somebody kicking us off without our consent.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, So John has something he wants to ask us.
• 32:11
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• 32:14
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• 32:29
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• 32:32
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• 32:38
  Speaker 3: it's a a literary historical thriller is the best way
• 32:42
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• 32:50
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• 32:52
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• 33:03
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• 33:08
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• 33:11
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• 33:14
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• 33:27
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• 33:45
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• 33:48
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• 33:51
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• 33:58
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• 34:08
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• 34:12
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• 34:13
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• 34:17
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• 34:18
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• 34:22
  Speaker 3: Because all I want to know is whether you would
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: want to read, you know, if you're interested using them? Right?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: And because with the first four chapters, I have to
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: get an agent's attention, right. Yes, if listeners are saying,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: you know, I would like to see I didn't really
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: like this, or I didn't think this was interesting, you know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: then I know it. Because I'm putting together query letter
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: letters for agents and after being rejected fifteen times now
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I and I'm still waiting for a bunch, but I'm
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: going to go through and adjust the query letters, so
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: anyway I would appreciate it. And yeah dot com, just
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: a note to John getting some thumbs up, thumbs up
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: on Facebook. And if if I do send it to
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: you and you read it and don't think it's worth
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: the effort to reply, you don't have to. Yeah, maybe
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: just don't reply. Yeah. What was it that Thumper's father
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: used to tell.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Him, you mean Thumper like in Bambi.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like if you can't say something.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Nice, don't say anything at all, to which a lot
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: of parents grabbed onto that quote for years.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Right, right, Unfortunately, I've never Kevin's in where do we
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: get the book? Let's pay attention Kevin. The book's not
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: out yet. I'm trying to get an agent, So Kevin,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: just send a note JOHNI Gardanamerica dot com and he'll
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: send you the first four chapters, right, Actually the first
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: a chap first a chapter broken into two parts.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And the point is, Vin, do those first aid chapters
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: give you enough inkling to want to read the rest
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: of the book, right?
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Lenora's already dying to read your books on
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Now, hold on, she's not literal literally dying. Just been
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: talking about that, but yeah, it's you know, I have
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: to admit that that if I read it, I would
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: want to read more.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I wanted to read more than what you sent me.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Of course it was about me, wasn't it in a
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: weird sense? Right?
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: You know? We were talking about how when I started
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: to write the book, to keep the characters straight, I
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: use the names of people I knew that went back
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: and changed them. But you and Tiger both asked me
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: to keep your names in there. Yeah, so I went
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: into so just because you guys have your names in
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: the book doesn't mean those are are you York? Are you?
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: It's not you? But she would hold up the court, right,
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: But you know, I because I know you guys so well,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: there's characteristics of you that are in the book. You know. Uh,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: the Brian character in the book happens to do podcasts,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: you know, which is there's a little radio on the side.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: There's a little radio on the side.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Rive has a wife named Dana and a cat name yeah,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: three cats, and the character named Tiger is the surfer.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: So yeah, there are some characters.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: The last time you surfed.
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Last weekend, really Sunday Sunday.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Where are you going? Where's your where's your hangout?
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Wall Street?
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: Pacific Beach Street.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Man, that is so old school.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: That is solo.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's my neck of the woods. Everyone,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: It's going to Low Street.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: No more Wind and Sea, the pump House, No more Wind.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: Was it called the pump house when you were growing
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: up exactly?
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: You know there's that giant pump room that services position
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: the Pacific beaches like underwater.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Is that is that shack at Wind and Sea still there?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Wow, Yeah, a lot of history there.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: So next week's show is going to be about surfing
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: implants yep.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: And John's book and John Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:01
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• 38:04
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• 38:05
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• 38:06
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• 38:19
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• 40:14
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• 40:27
  Speaker 3: I was just thinking about being ready and rested. Since
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: you just came back from the restroom during the break,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: are you now.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Rested, Tan, rested and ready? Yeah, you didn't see it.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: You just laid out, don't you remember back in the
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: seventies that was an old Nixon thing. I'm Tan rested
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: and ready and I'm back.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Is that you're the least land part because he went
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: to like a tropical vacation.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: His house was in San Clementy.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: So that so he feels San Clemente is a place
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: where you can get a Tan.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I told you I had dinner at his house oncet
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Whose house at the Western Clement Yeah, yeah, yeah, Shannon's nice. Yeah,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: you know who? Well, I don't know if they still
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: own it, but the person that bought it after Nixon
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: left was Gavin Herbert, who was the owner of Rogers Gardens.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah really yeah, so flower money, huh yeah. So so
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: we were invited over there, and I remember Shannon going,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: she had to use the restroom, and she came back.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Her comment was, you know, I wonder whose butt's been
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: on this toilet.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Whose are the things I would think about? Didn't Sharon
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: have some plates at her house? There's some dinnerware that
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: came from the White House or.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: From no no, no, no, that was That's a long story,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: but had had nothing to do with that. But it
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: does have something to do with the Band of Brothers.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: So maybe someday we've got more time, we can go
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: into that story.
• 42:04
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• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'm interested. You know, last segment you had let
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: our last Yeah, last segment, you let people know that
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about some of the plants
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: we have here. And I was really interesting interested. I've
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: been really interesting sometimes, but I was really interested in
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: the tomato that you brought. It come up from a seed,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: but I think it's one of the spoon type tomatoes,
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: right yeah.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: If you're watching on Facebook Live right now, you can
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: kind of see this tomato branch that I pulled off
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: of the plant, and you can see they're like what
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: do they call us cluster?
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like peace sized tomatoes, right.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's as big as it's going to get. Yeah,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: that's as that's the tomato size right there.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: And they're sweet, right.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: You know, the spoon ones were I don't think this
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: one's right.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: And what do you know that's not right?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: What's that variety? What do they call it?
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Spoon? They call it spoon because you can get what
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: a dozen in a teaspoon?
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I mean just they talked about that, right,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: that's what they called it because.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: They but there there's that's a class of tomatoes. It's
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: usually referred to as current tomatoes.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: And do you remember our description of those tomatoes last
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: time when we were talking about it, because they are
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: sweet and they're small, like a peace size, and we
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: talked about remember we described we described them as boba,
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: you know, like oh yeah, and they because they really
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: do have an amazing flavor, sweet, very tomato esque, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: they burst, you know. I mean they're you know, un
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: like a tomato that it's a burst of flavor. Well,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: unike a tomato that you take a bite into, right,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: this is one that is like a boba and it
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: bursts with all that tomato flavor. And it's wonderful to
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: use in salads.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: And rather than cherry.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Tomato in yeah, which sometimes could be a.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Little bit even big for a salad, these ones you
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: can just sprinkle.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Again, you could hide them in a salad. Don't tell
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: us and not tell somebody and then go but a salad?
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Sweet?
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: What's in here? Can you imagine a beef steak tomato
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: that size that sweet? What wouldn't that be? Wouldn't that
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I mean a tomato, a huge tomato. It has the
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: same sweetness as Okay, that would be overwhelming, wouldn't it
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm very confused about what you're trying to No,
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, because those are small and very sweet, Yes,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: take that same sweetness in a huge tomato.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, gotcha. And Rick is wondering what tomato has the
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: highest sugar content? Now, and that's changed over the years. John,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: We're not growing tomatoes anymore. So I don't know if
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: I'm up with what's current. But the last one that
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: I remember was sweet a pair of teeth. Yes, so
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: sweet appartee is probably the sweetest. But you know, do
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: you really, Brian, did you need anything sweeter than sun sugar?
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I was gonna say this very calmon.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, so most people find the sun sugar
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: and sun gold. Yeah, so yeah, those those are all
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: all good sweet tomatoes.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: You put the sun and gold together, you can't lose, right.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: So the other plants that I put out here, the blossoms,
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: I should say, the hibiscus. I mean, isn't it fun
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: that we are in, you know, December right now and
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: you know these hibiscus full bloom, absolutely gorgeous. Is your
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: your hibiscus blooming or no?
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the time of the year that it
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: blooms spring and summer occasionally, but now and I've got
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: the dinner sized hibisco large flower ones and yeah, they
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: blooming all the time this time of the year.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Carolyn tiger As, didn't we sell those tomatoes
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: years ago? And we did? And I think after I
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: stopped growing them, you grew one year for gardener's supply, right, yeah,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: and did you grow that for them? Is that the spoon? Yeah?
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: No, this spoon came from tomato Mania.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, so it's a great event. Carolyn says
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: that she still has a few volunteers every year from that,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: So that's what that's that's exactly right, as a volunteer.
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: Just came up in the garden and I'm like, oh wow,
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: look at that. Go sometimes this plant also kind of
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: looked like a because tomatoes are a salanum. So when
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: it was first coming up, you know how that night
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: shade salanum weed will sometimes come up in a yard.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: At first I thought it was that, but then I
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: was like, no, I think it's actually an actual tomato,
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: So I was happy to see it.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Joyce says that she's planning boys and berries from a
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: friend who's thinning them out this time of year. Really yeah,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: so this is actually a good time if you're dividing
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: certain perennials and berry bushes to go ahead and get
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: them in the ground now and then they'll take off
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: for spring.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Do you just dig these up because they kind of like, yeah,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like runners, right, just dig up a cluster.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know wind of roots like Bermuda grass.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you just dig it up, you
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: find a root system.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: And then Tanya wrote, my bird of Paradise is full
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: of blooms.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is a time of year for
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Bird of Paradise.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: It is, but I mean it's kind of neat with
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: this winter tropical. Look, you know, hibiscus bird of Paradise.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: The plumerias are not so much.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: You know, mine hasn't lost off its leaves yet. Yeah,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: it's kind of just hanging in there with a flower
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: or two. It looks like yours, tiger basically, So you.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: Guys both had leaves this year exactly in flowers.
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: John's like, wait a minute, plumes have leaves. I thought
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: they were just the big stems.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Someday, someday, I'll I'll learn how to grow plumeria.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, what I kind of feel you need
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: a little bit is some protection, and when your trees
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: get more established, you'll have those pockets of the yard
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: that aren't so exposed because I.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Think your battle this mind during the winter though.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Well I know, but these trees will protect full.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: The frost from that. What you're talking about cold weather,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: little pockets. Yeah, maybe, yeah, maybe so far no cold
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: weather this year. It's cold, Yeah, it's cold. Yeah, when
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: it's fifty degrees inside the house, maybe it's getting cold.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: But you know, we we mentioned the first hour that
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: we've got a week of eighty degree temperatures coming up. Ye,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: high high seventies, low eighty.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's very dry, right, inta ana kind of weather?
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you would probably hear you'll probably be high sixties,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: low seventies, right.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: Yep, exactly. Yeah, yeah, so it's it's it's that time
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: of air.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: You know. I noticed, looking over to my left, Tiger,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: you're banana.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: True. I was look at those well, I said something
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: last week to Tiger, Are there any Are they any good?
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: He said, no, they don't taste. They don't taste as
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: good as they look.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, isn't that nice? Are those ones?
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Will probably be ready next week and so we'll pull
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: some off and you guys can do a little tea.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, are they?
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Those aren't plantains? I kind of think they are. I
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: kind of think they planteins aren't supposed to be good. Well,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: I got to cook.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Them, I know, But so don't bite them anyway.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: You know, that's a question for our listeners. Everybody knows
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: how to identify bananas. How do you identify banana?
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I've got a book at my house in my library
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: you could check out called bananaa Dummies Banana Varieties of
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: the World. Will you send me?
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: Will you send me the log in information to register
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: for your library so I can put my info in
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: to check out a book.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Please, we got to take a break. We're talking bananas.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: You want to apply for a library?
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: What I say?
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 49:52
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• 49:54
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• 50:51
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• 50:55
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• 50:58
  Speaker 2: or have no idea what's going on? Broadcasting live from
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Tiger's house, his backyard here in San Diego, California. Sun
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: is out. It's gonna be a beautiful day in the neighborhood, right,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: mister Rogers.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: I went to his statue in Pittsburgh, statue right outside
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: the no that's in Philadelphia.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia Where were you? Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: Right outside I think it's a Steelers stadium on the water.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: He is a beautiful memorial. That's a statue of him
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: just sitting there looking out over the water. I don't
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: remember what river it is.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: What's the Alleghany. There's three, the Monongohela and the Ohio.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Isn't that three Rivers Stadium?
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, but it's the Ohio again, the Monongahela and
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: the what was the third?
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: And the Alleghany? So yeah, and so what's just ty
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: in with Pittsburgh? I probably should have looked more. Wow,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's probably from there or something. But but
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: you walk up and then they have audio and it's
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: all of his little high theres that you know, welcome
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: to the neighborhood and you know all that stuff.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: So it was pretty cool.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Hi, Hi there, can you say Alleghany? I knew you could.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: All right, we have questions to come. Yeah. Daisy wants
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: to know if she can prune her per Simon try now,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: She said, all the fruit's been harvested, can she do
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: it now.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: To which John would say, no, wait till two o'clock
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: this afternoon, right.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: Or should she wait until January with the other fruit trees.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: She's up in the Bay Area, and don't judge her.
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: She's a fifth generation San Diego. Oh nice, Yeah, up
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: to the Bay Area of all places.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know that was a positive move.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, our friend Tanya's in the bay Judge, no judge, Yeah,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: this is judge.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Tanya's a San Jose Shark fan.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, Tanya just chimed in, Daisy. There's
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: nothing wrong with being in the Bay Area. No, Simon,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: what are you gonna do? John?
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: You know, what are we gonna what are we gonna
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: cut the weight to?
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Wait?
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Are you gonna you know?
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: They just dropped their leaves right, And I think I
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: might wait just a little bit because and the only
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: reason is I don't know what the temperature is going
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: to be like in the Bay Area. But if you
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: get a warm spree, warm streak, you don't want to
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: encourage growth. So that's the biggest risk.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you trim, and when you trim things in the
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: weather stays nice.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: Now they grow. Yeah, now you probably don't have that's
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: probably not as much of a problem in the Bay
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Area is down here, you know, because again, going into
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: like if you went through and prune your your uh say,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: your hibiscus, now you're gonna encourage new growth.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: So what fell?
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: I don't know, something hit the roof. It's that time
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: something because.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: There's nothing above.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: This was that Santa's checking on you. Tiger wants see
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: if you've been naughty or nice.
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean we've talked about this before where
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: you know you want to wait for some of this
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: pruning until you know you're going to get cold weather
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: because then the plant stays dorm it per Simmons, I mean,
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: are those tropical or they not subtropical?
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: Mediterranean?
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Mediterranean. Yeah. As a matter of fact, my grandmother when
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: we lived in Detroit had a persymmetry on her yeah,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: in her yard that but they would treat it like
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: a fig tree. They would every winter wrap it in
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: straw in burr lap and then build a little case
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: around it, yeah, to to protect it. But yeah, so
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: they're Mediterranean type trees. They're drought tolerant, you know, once
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: they're established. Yeah. So yeah, not not tropicals, not like
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: a low quator or avocados or citrus or things even
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: citrus or somewhat mediterrane. Oh.
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: I've always classified citrus is more like a little bit
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: more of a tropical fruit.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they are pretty much.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: But they are mediterrane What do we say they're from China, China, Asia?
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Right? Yeah, it depends. I think, like what the finger
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: limes are from Australia, some are from Asia. You know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering about South America because I do know that
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: the original Washington Navals came from there, but I don't know.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: They might have.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Came from somewhere and then came there.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they might have gone there, So I'm not sure.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: So Rick had mentioned he was in Dana Point. Do
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: you want to know why?
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked to him about it last time.
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: He's leaving for Thailand this afternoon. Yeah, he wants to know.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: It's his first trip overseas. Yeah, that's it seems like
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: an odd place to go for.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: Your first trip, say, for your first one.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: That's what eighteen hours or something.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he wants to know if you have any advice.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I've never been to I've never actually been to Asia,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: have you. I've been to Bali?
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: So is that Indonesia? That's Indonesia?
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: That's close.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I mean I did a layover in Japan.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: To get to Bali.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what was the big city Kuala Lumpur, Yes,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: still yeah, which used to be.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: When did it used to be? Oh gosh, because it
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: was one of those names like like Bombay. Now they
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: changed the name. Really Quala Lumpur used to be something else,
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: I think, unless I'm thinking I've never been to.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: A no clon has changed to something. Oh my god.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: And he's there all the way through Christmas, so he's
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: there for a long time.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're gonna go that far, yeah, he get
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: worth it. Get worth it.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: There's a plant market in chang Mai, and that's something
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: that's been on my bucket list, is to visit the
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: plant market in chang Mai. If I think that those
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: are the highlands in Thailand, if you have the opportunity
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: to visit, since you're going to be there for so long, rick,
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: go there, take some pictures. I think you're It's supposed
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: to be one of the areas the premiere areas in
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: the world for tropical varieties and Thailand. Thailand is also
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: doing the breeding with uh plume area. Lots of Plumeria
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: hybrids there, uh adeniums and what's the other thing that
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: I wanted to say, Oh, well, I said, it's one
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: other thing that they're doing. Uh, the philade the.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: The you know there wasn't that where also they.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Were in the tharn't start doing a lot.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: Of the philodendrons. The why I can't Why can't they.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: Think of it?
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: You know the split leap phil isn't isn't Thai constellation
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: right from didn't did do a lot of breeding there.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: With that stuff. You know, I'm not sure that that's
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: breeding or if it's sports they find, but there'll be
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: a lot of variegates there that are are new. So yeah,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of the new stuff is coming from there.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: So you're gonna have a great trip. I've never been there.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Shannon went with the Ship of Hope. She was working
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: as a nurse on the Ship of Hope and went
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: to Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Am I thinking of Catman Do No.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Because Catman Do is in Nepal.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, there's there's a name change going on there somewhere.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: Wasn't there a song called cat that was Bob Segert
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Bop singer, Yeah, Bop Secret. Okay, we're going to take
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: a break as we continue on this wonderful voyage today
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: here on Guard in America. Brian Main, John Bagnescar Tiger,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Pela Fox, a break for our friends on BIS Talk Radio.
• 59:10
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• 59:15
  Speaker 2: with us. All right, we are back as we stand by.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: We stood by. Once you stand by, you can go live. John,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: so we hear back. Any questions, comments or corrections on
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: Catman do or Nepal or anything like that. Tiger that
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: you can see.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: No, okay, all we're just moving along now. Okay, I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: think that you know, one of the things I wanted
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: to mention also as we kind of get into this
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: time of year, we were talking about, you know, the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: right time to prove the presymmetries and and things like that.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: You know, we've mentioned this before, but fertilization of the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: yard slows down in the wintertime. You don't want to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: we don't want to push growth. Definitely don't want to
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: use you know, synthetic fertilizers that are going to push
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: growth as the cold weather comes on. But you know,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: John was mentioning, you know back east where people will
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: start to heavily molt for frost protection, they'll start to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: put down some of the other protections. Same thing here
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: in southern California and on the western side of the
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: United States too. It is a great time to kind
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: of mulch because if you put the mult down now,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: you know it will begin to break into the soil.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: I mean a lot of times they put down molt
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: for you know, keeping moisture in and we prevention. But
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: at the same time, for the winter time, you're giving
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: it that time to actually get into the soil and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: break down. By the spring when you want to plant
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: in the spring, you know the soil will be much
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: you know, easier to work with a little bit more lively,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: you know. One of the comments earlier by one of
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: our listeners was found it interesting on how sometimes for
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: people things are so easy things for people to grow,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: and sometimes people have a challenge growing certain things. And
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: it's not always about where you live, because it could
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: just be just as easy for me to grow something
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: as you because we live here in San Diego, right
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: But soil in a yard makes a huge difference of
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: what you're successful with. And I kind of feel like
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: that all starts with mulching and amending the soil.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: So what kind of soil did you have when you
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: moved in here? Or was it, for the most part dirt.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: So I live in a I mean these houses were
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: built in the sixties, right, so it's twenty twenty right now.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: This soil has been amended, you know.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Over fifty sixty years. Yeah, right.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: The worst places are the new track homes because it's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: all fill dirt, it's all cut soil, it's all dgs.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: And so all these.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: New homes, people go in there wanting.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: To garden, and the soil is worthless.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: You might as well invest twice as much as what
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: you're going to put in plants and your landscape into
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: just getting that soil up and up and running, because
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: it is not good at all. And so I would
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: say I have very wonderful I would consider it loam soil.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: But it's sixty years.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: Old of yards right here, you know.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: And not only that, the yard that I have was
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: neglected for probably about fifteen to twenty years really, which
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: is actually kind of a good thing because that was
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: someone that just left the leaf litter, left the weeds,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: left the debris. Amending that soil.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: The environment was doing its own thing, and so it
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: was all natural.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: I actually have pretty good soil. I mean, yes, there's clay, yeah,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: but there's clay everywhere.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: In San Diego that you run into, not at my house. Well,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: you just have DG straight DG and G. Yeah, right,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: exactly rock. You know, you were talking about mulching and
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: how important it is. It's also if you have slopes,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: you know, with the rains coming, it breaks up the
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: rain so you don't have as much erosion. So that's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: another benefit of mulching, you know. Brian, back to your questions.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: I did check with AI to see what the former
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: name of Kuala Lumpur was and the answer was nothing.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: It's always been qual Alum.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: So they changed it from nothing.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Nothing important. And what I was thinking of when I
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: said Ceylon or Ceylon that is now Sri Lanka.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've got Burma, Burma's me and mar me and more.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's what I That's what I was thinking of,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: from Burma to me and mar Thank you.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you were just on a completely wrong track.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Now I was on the right part of the world.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: Well, that's true.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I think I had my latitude mixed up
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: with my longitude. I think that's what happened there.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: You don't want to mix your longitude. The boy things
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: come out if you do that. It's all blended together,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: bleeds together.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: And then Tiger was in Japan thinking he was in
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Where would you think?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Bally Bali?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bally.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Carolyn mentioned I was wondering if you're talking about Sam,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: I am there's another one. Yeah, King of Siam?
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Is that the king? And I yeah, with ul Brenner
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: and Deborah Debra Carr.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how do I know these things?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: You know? It just kind of sticks in there and
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: you pull it out.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's osmosis. It just you know, that's why. Is
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: it good for your plans? I don't know if it's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: good for your plants.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: But put some osmosis on there, even if.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: You don't try. By the time you get to be
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: in your sixties or seventies, you know a lot.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just back in the brain. It's like a computer.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: You know, people are funny when they delete something you
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: didn't delete it, which you delete is still in your computer.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: You've just moved things around, basically.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the lines from my book and talking
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: about actually Brian, uh talking about deleting or don't or
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: catch this, uh, don't delete it, and he goes and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: the program, Andrew says to him, nothing ever disappears anymore.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: True.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially these forensic it's there forever.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: You know, the police get a hold of you know,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: your computer, and forensically they go through and they go,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: you know what, he deleted all these things, but it's
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: actually found over here in this part of the computer
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: we had.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we talked about this, but we're
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: going to do Aunalaskan tour next June, I think, not
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Garden America.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: But you're welcome. Welcome to come. If you I did
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Alaska cruise years ago and loved it.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: Did you really? Yep? Yeah, yeah, you know what I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: What I did not know though, is that that if
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: you're going to Canada and you've ever had a d UI,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: forget it. You can't get in. Really. Yeah, there's they
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: passed a new law than anyone who ever ever ever
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: has a d UI cannot go in unless it happened
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: to be before the law was passed. So I think
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: it was like nineteen eighty six. If you had a
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: DUI before nineteen eighty six. You can get a lawyer
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: and you can fill out paperwork and be deemed rehabilitated.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: You can be deemed rehabilitated, which just seems pretty extreme
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: A little extreme, I could understand in the last couple
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: of years maybe.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: So that would be like, if you're going to Alaska,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: you can't go through Canada. Not that I've never had
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: a d do you I I never have either, Yeah,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: but there you go. Yeah, I do that. I was
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: shocked to find out.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Because the week came up because weird questions they ask
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: you to go on trips, right, yeah.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. One of our friends, we were at a bunch
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: of guys get together for breakfast every Friday, and he
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: was talking about it and mentioned that he had a
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: DUI fifty five years ago.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: My goodness existed.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: And he's just let you go and say slow down.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And he he went to fill out one of
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: those global passes, you know for TSA. You can get
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: the pre check right for the US, but then there's
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: a global one and he said you had to said
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: have you ever been convicted of anything? And he put
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: down yes, and he's you know, then they said, you
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: know when was it during the interview and he goes
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: fifty five years ago, and he says, well, you're denied.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: Obviously, you haven't learned your lesson in fifty five years.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: It's like I was eighteen years old. What are you
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: talking to?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: My brain hadn't completely developed yet. That is pretty extreme.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: I know, I don't know's.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: We should do that with gardening limit people? How we
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: killed If you've killed eight plants, you can no longer
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: buy more, right, you have to.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: Wait a year or at least the same type. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: We used to say that you never give up growing
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: a plan until you've killed it three times? Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: We have one minute to the break, and then after
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: that break, one more short segment. All right, we're moving
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: right along here.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a good Saturday.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: It has been.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: We we covered our Thanksgiving holiday last show.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: Now we're getting into the Christmas holiday.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: We talked about Christmas trees, We talked about points steady Is.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: We talked about Cyclement with John on the last episode.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how cool.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: There? Yeah that they have do you know the one
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: we haven't mentioned yet, Thanksgiving Cactus.
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  Speaker 2: Which we're going to talk about after the break. How
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  Speaker 2: about that you briefly.
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  Speaker 3: Are you talking about Zygo Cactus or SCHLUMBERGERA.
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  Speaker 2: We'll find out, speaking of d u I, Schlimberger, Schlumberger.
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  Speaker 4: But before the break, yeah, Berger Slumberger, which so you know,
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  Speaker 4: every every season, you know, there's those plants that come out.
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  Speaker 4: We were talking about psyching, we talked about point city.
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  Speaker 4: Is Christmas cactus. Christmas cactus are the other plant that
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  Speaker 4: hits right now. Everybody loves them, bright, vibrant colors, easy
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  Speaker 4: to grow, but.
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  Speaker 3: They're really Thanksgiving case.
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  Speaker 4: They are not Christmas cactus?
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  Speaker 3: Right? What what?
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  Speaker 2: What is the.
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  Speaker 3: What is it again? Is it Slumbergia? Which one? Yeah? Thanksgiving?
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  Speaker 3: Which one? Is it? That psygo cactus?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so the Thanksgiving one is zygo ca? Right, Christmas cactus?
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  Speaker 3: And actually times called them uh lobster cactus. They're the
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  Speaker 3: ones with the pointed uh segments to the leaves. The
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  Speaker 3: Christmas cactus. The Schlumberger has rounded, smooth, smooth segments.
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  Speaker 4: And they won't hit the market until.
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  Speaker 3: Well they just bloom later. They bloom a couple of
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  Speaker 3: weeks later. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So if you see them until like actually after Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: Well you can see him before Christmas, but you don't
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  Speaker 3: see as many because they're not there hasn't been a
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  Speaker 3: lot of breeding with them, so you don't see all
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  Speaker 3: the colors, got it that you do with the zygo cactus.
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  Speaker 3: So they come out there. They're sold as Christmas cactus,
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  Speaker 3: but they're actually you know, they start blooming at Thanksgiving. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and they usually are out of bloom by Christmas, not
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  Speaker 3: always but usually got it? Got it? Yeah, And that
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  Speaker 3: both types are real easy to start from cuttings. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I love the people that have had them in
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  Speaker 4: that pot on their back patio and just this massive plant.
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  Speaker 4: But then this time year it just gets covered with blood. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they're so spectacular.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe gets covered with blooms, depending where you are.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason is that they need cold to set
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  Speaker 3: their buds, and if you have them, if you're in
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  Speaker 3: a cold climate like Michigan or Idaho, they won't set
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  Speaker 3: their buds. If they're indoors the whole time, they refuse, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: in a if they're in a heated room, but they freeze,
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  Speaker 3: so you can't put them outside. So what they need
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  Speaker 3: is is a maybe an unheated port, you know, where
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  Speaker 3: the temperature doesn't go below freezing but does get cold,
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  Speaker 3: kind of like symbidium markets. Yes, they like what I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing it Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean with his.
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  Speaker 2: Organ got in my orcan? I got to cut the
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  Speaker 2: stem now because all the flower is going to put
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  Speaker 2: it outside and put it outside for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm going to cut it all the way down.
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  Speaker 3: Well that are you're talking about a falien opsis though, right, yes,
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  Speaker 3: you know falian opses don't need cold. They actually don't
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  Speaker 3: do well with cold.
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  Speaker 4: But when you leave it in the house, they tell
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  Speaker 4: you to take it outside.
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  Speaker 3: But who are they? I want to know.
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  Speaker 4: No, but because when you leave it in the house,
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, seventy five degrees all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Which is what they prefer. The Yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Believe is that what I have? It's the same picture.
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  Speaker 3: I say you, John, are you con confusing those with
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  Speaker 3: miltonias or pathio pedulums?
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  Speaker 4: I was told from I just.
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  Speaker 3: Want to know who's giving you, who's feeding you this information?
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  Speaker 4: From rocket farms? You remember rocket farms? Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 4: rocket farms. They said that when your failing office is
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  Speaker 4: done blooming. Cut the stem. Yeah, and then put it
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  Speaker 4: on your porch outside, because a lot of people will
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  Speaker 4: keep them inside put it on.
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  Speaker 3: Is that just because of light though, to increase the
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  Speaker 3: amount of light that they get.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I told they were.
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  Speaker 4: They say put it outside and then it'll bloom quicker
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  Speaker 4: if they it's outside rather than if it's inside.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 3: What I'm gonna I'm gonna be the guinea big We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. Well, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I I learned something new every day, so this would
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  Speaker 3: be something.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll take I'll roll the dice and take a chance.
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  Speaker 4: You have inside, because you do grow them. I've seen them.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Shannon grows, but you just throw them away when
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  Speaker 3: they're done. She likes to let them die outside. No,
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  Speaker 3: she just ignores them indoors until they're come.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut it. Put it outside underneath the even
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  Speaker 2: the pres.
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  Speaker 3: Need the cold, yes to set blooms. Yeah, that's definitely outside.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely true for a symbo. Yeah, people bring them indoors
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  Speaker 3: when they're blooming and then put them back up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm putting it outside. I'm gonna cut it.
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  Speaker 3: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I mean, this is the picture I
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  Speaker 2: sent you? So do we have the right species? The right?
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  Speaker 2: Are we talking about the right? The right one? Here?
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  Speaker 3: John doesn't even remember what picture.
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  Speaker 2: I sent him. Two pictures.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you responded to me recently.
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  Speaker 2: What time? What time does John's get here?
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  Speaker 3: We can answer a question.
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  Speaker 2: We got to go.
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  Speaker 4: Rick answered, what conditions are ideal to grow?
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  Speaker 3: Let us?
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  Speaker 4: They love cool, they love it to be cool. A
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  Speaker 4: very mild break.
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