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Nolan Ryan: An American Original - A Conversation with "Nolan" Author Tim Brown · Sports History Network

• 0:19
  Scott,
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  our
• 0:19
  guest
• 0:20
  today,
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  has
• 0:20
  covered
• 0:20
  baseball
• 0:21
  for
• 0:21
  more
• 0:21
  than
• 0:21
  30
• 0:22
  years.
• 0:22
  He's
• 0:22
  written
• 0:23
  two
• 0:23
  New
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  York
• 0:24
  Times
• 0:24
  bestsellers,
• 0:25
  the
• 0:25
  Phenomenon
• 0:25
  with
• 0:26
  Rick
• 0:26
  and
• 0:26
  Keel,
• 0:26
  and
• 0:27
  Imperfect
• 0:27
  with
• 0:27
  Jim
• 0:28
  Abbott.
• 0:29
  The
• 0:29
  reason
• 0:29
  he's
• 0:30
  here
• 0:30
  today
• 0:30
  and
• 0:31
  the
• 0:31
  reason
• 0:32
  we're
• 0:32
  so
• 0:32
  excited
• 0:32
  to
• 0:33
  have
• 0:33
  him
• 0:33
  is
• 0:33
  he's
• 0:33
  got
• 0:33
  a
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  new
• 0:34
  book
• 0:34
  called
• 0:34
  Nolan
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  the
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  Singular
• 0:36
  Life
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  of
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  an
• 0:37
  American
• 0:37
  Original
• 0:38
  about
• 0:38
  Nolan
• 0:39
  Ryan.
• 0:40
  His
• 0:40
  name
• 0:41
  is
• 0:41
  Tim
• 0:41
  Brown
• 0:41
  and
• 0:42
  he's
• 0:42
  here
• 0:42
  on
• 0:42
  the
• 0:42
  mixtape.
• 0:43
  Welcome
• 0:43
  to
• 0:43
  the
• 0:43
  mixtape,
• 0:44
  Tim.
• 0:44
  Welcome,
• 0:45
  Tim.
• 0:46
  Fellas,
• 0:46
  thanks
• 0:46
  for
• 0:46
  having
• 0:47
  me
• 0:47
  into
• 0:47
  Dallas
• 0:47
  for,
• 0:48
  for
• 0:48
  a
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  little
• 0:48
  bit.
• 0:49
  I.
• 0:49
  We're
• 0:50
  super
• 0:50
  excited
• 0:51
  to,
• 0:51
  to
• 0:52
  have
• 0:52
  you
• 0:52
  here.
• 0:54
  I
• 0:54
  got
• 0:54
  an
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  early
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  copy
• 0:55
  of
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  the
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  book.
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  It's
• 0:58
  fantastic.
• 0:58
  And
• 0:59
  I'm
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  not
• 0:59
  blowing
• 0:59
  smoke.
• 1:00
  I
• 1:01
  was
• 1:01
  honestly
• 1:02
  surprised
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  at
• 1:02
  how
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  much
• 1:03
  I
• 1:03
  laughed
• 1:04
  while
• 1:04
  reading
• 1:05
  the
• 1:05
  book.
• 1:05
  The
• 1:05
  stories,
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  like,
• 1:06
  if
• 1:07
  you
• 1:07
  are
• 1:08
  somebody
• 1:08
  that
• 1:08
  just
• 1:09
  enjoys
• 1:09
  hearing
• 1:11
  baseball
• 1:11
  players
• 1:12
  from
• 1:12
  the
• 1:12
  70s
• 1:12
  and
• 1:12
  80s
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  tell
• 1:13
  stories,
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  this
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  is
• 1:15
  a
• 1:16
  buffet
• 1:16
  of
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  just
• 1:17
  fantastic
• 1:18
  baseball
• 1:19
  stories.
• 1:20
  I.
• 1:20
  We're.
• 1:21
  We're
• 1:21
  in
• 1:21
  Dallas.
• 1:22
  We're
• 1:22
  close
• 1:22
  to
• 1:22
  Dallas.
• 1:23
  One
• 1:23
  of
• 1:23
  my
• 1:24
  favorite
• 1:24
  right
• 1:24
  off
• 1:24
  the
• 1:25
  bat
• 1:25
  was
• 1:25
  Jeff
• 1:26
  Hewson,
• 1:26
  which
• 1:27
  is
• 1:27
  we
• 1:27
  have
• 1:27
  a
• 1:27
  dear
• 1:28
  friend
• 1:28
  and
• 1:28
  Jeff
• 1:28
  Houston
• 1:29
  is
• 1:29
  his
• 1:29
  favorite
• 1:29
  player.
• 1:30
  I
• 1:30
  can't
• 1:30
  wait
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  to
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  tell
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  him
• 1:32
  about
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  this
• 1:32
  story
• 1:33
  because
• 1:33
  Jeff
• 1:33
  Houston's
• 1:34
  his
• 1:34
  favorite
• 1:34
  player.
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  I
• 1:36
  love
• 1:36
  Jeff
• 1:36
  Hewson,
• 1:37
  but
• 1:37
  that
• 1:37
  is
• 1:37
  niche,
• 1:38
  man.
• 1:38
  Oh,
• 1:38
  yeah,
• 1:39
  no,
• 1:39
  it's
• 1:39
  super,
• 1:40
  super
• 1:40
  niche.
• 1:40
  We.
• 1:41
  We
• 1:41
  did
• 1:42
  a
• 1:42
  podcast.
• 1:42
  Our.
• 1:43
  Our
• 1:43
  concede
• 1:44
  is
• 1:44
  we're
• 1:44
  doing
• 1:44
  the
• 1:45
  90s
• 1:46
  event
• 1:46
  by
• 1:46
  event
• 1:47
  as
• 1:47
  we.
• 1:47
  So
• 1:47
  we're
• 1:48
  just.
• 1:48
  In
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  1990,
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  we
• 1:49
  just
• 1:50
  did
• 1:50
  Nolan's
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  6
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  no
• 1:51
  hitter.
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  So
• 1:52
  Houston,
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  we
• 1:53
  had
• 1:53
  him
• 1:53
  on
• 1:54
  to
• 1:54
  talk
• 1:54
  about
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  his
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  love
• 1:55
  of
• 1:55
  Houston
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  and
• 1:56
  of
• 1:56
  course
• 1:56
  Houston's
• 1:57
  grounder.
• 1:58
  You
• 1:58
  know,
• 1:58
  his
• 1:58
  play
• 1:59
  on
• 1:59
  the
• 1:59
  grounder,
• 1:59
  Ricky
• 1:59
  Henderson's
• 2:00
  grounder
• 2:00
  kind
• 2:00
  of
• 2:01
  saved
• 2:01
  that
• 2:01
  no
• 2:02
  hitter
• 2:02
  in
• 2:02
  the
• 2:02
  night.
• 2:03
  So
• 2:03
  he
• 2:03
  got
• 2:03
  to
• 2:04
  geek
• 2:04
  out.
• 2:04
  But
• 2:04
  I
• 2:05
  can't
• 2:05
  wait
• 2:06
  because
• 2:06
  Houston
• 2:06
  basically
• 2:07
  had
• 2:07
  this
• 2:07
  magical
• 2:08
  day
• 2:09
  in
• 2:09
  spring
• 2:09
  training.
• 2:10
  Correct?
• 2:11
  Correct.
• 2:11
  Correct,
• 2:11
  yes.
• 2:12
  He
• 2:12
  had
• 2:13
  just
• 2:13
  been
• 2:13
  traded
• 2:13
  across
• 2:15
  Florida
• 2:15
  basically
• 2:16
  in
• 2:17
  spring
• 2:17
  training,
• 2:18
  and
• 2:19
  opening
• 2:20
  day
• 2:20
  was
• 2:20
  coming
• 2:21
  and
• 2:22
  so
• 2:24
  Nolan
• 2:25
  was
• 2:25
  going
• 2:25
  to
• 2:25
  throw
• 2:25
  a
• 2:25
  simulated
• 2:26
  game.
• 2:26
  And
• 2:27
  when
• 2:27
  I
• 2:27
  was
• 2:28
  covering
• 2:28
  baseball,
• 2:29
  simulated
• 2:29
  games
• 2:30
  were
• 2:30
  a
• 2:30
  pitcher,
• 2:31
  a
• 2:31
  batter,
• 2:32
  and
• 2:32
  a
• 2:32
  couple,
• 2:33
  couple
• 2:33
  of
• 2:33
  guys
• 2:34
  in
• 2:34
  the
• 2:34
  outfield
• 2:34
  shagging
• 2:36
  just
• 2:36
  in
• 2:36
  case
• 2:37
  the
• 2:37
  ball
• 2:37
  got
• 2:37
  hit.
• 2:39
  You
• 2:39
  know,
• 2:39
  cage
• 2:40
  these.
• 2:41
  It
• 2:42
  was
• 2:42
  all
• 2:42
  very
• 2:43
  controlled
• 2:43
  sort
• 2:44
  of
• 2:44
  situation,
• 2:44
  but
• 2:45
  I
• 2:45
  guess
• 2:45
  in
• 2:45
  Nolan's
• 2:46
  day
• 2:46
  and
• 2:46
  the
• 2:46
  way
• 2:47
  Nolan
• 2:47
  liked
• 2:48
  was
• 2:49
  a
• 2:49
  game
• 2:49
  like,
• 2:50
  you
• 2:50
  better
• 2:51
  bring
• 2:51
  it
• 2:51
  if
• 2:51
  you're,
• 2:51
  if
• 2:52
  you're
• 2:52
  hitting
• 2:52
  against
• 2:52
  Nolan
• 2:53
  or
• 2:53
  you're
• 2:53
  behind
• 2:53
  him
• 2:54
  in
• 2:54
  the
• 2:54
  field,
• 2:54
  you
• 2:55
  better
• 2:55
  do
• 2:55
  your
• 2:55
  job.
• 2:56
  That
• 2:56
  day,
• 2:56
  Nolan
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  was
• 2:57
  serious
• 2:57
  about
• 2:58
  these
• 2:58
  things.
• 2:58
  And
• 2:58
  so
• 2:59
  Jeff
• 2:59
  is
• 2:59
  a
• 2:59
  brand
• 2:59
  new
• 3:00
  teammate.
• 3:02
  I
• 3:02
  want
• 3:02
  to
• 3:02
  say
• 3:03
  traded
• 3:03
  from
• 3:03
  the
• 3:03
  Expos.
• 3:04
  Right?
• 3:05
  That's
• 3:05
  yeah.
• 3:06
  And
• 3:08
  so
• 3:08
  he
• 3:08
  gets
• 3:08
  there,
• 3:09
  and
• 3:10
  they
• 3:10
  tell
• 3:10
  him,
• 3:11
  hey,
• 3:11
  you're
• 3:11
  not
• 3:11
  going
• 3:12
  to
• 3:12
  travel
• 3:12
  with
• 3:12
  the
• 3:12
  team
• 3:13
  and
• 3:13
  play
• 3:13
  in
• 3:13
  the
• 3:13
  game
• 3:13
  today.
• 3:13
  Instead,
• 3:14
  you're
• 3:14
  going
• 3:14
  to
• 3:14
  stay
• 3:14
  behind
• 3:15
  and
• 3:16
  play
• 3:16
  in
• 3:16
  this
• 3:16
  simulated
• 3:17
  game
• 3:17
  against
• 3:18
  Nolan.
• 3:18
  Nolan's
• 3:19
  getting
• 3:19
  ready
• 3:19
  for
• 3:19
  opening
• 3:20
  day,
• 3:21
  and
• 3:21
  rather
• 3:22
  than
• 3:22
  have
• 3:22
  him
• 3:22
  pitch
• 3:22
  on
• 3:23
  the
• 3:23
  road
• 3:23
  or
• 3:23
  something,
• 3:23
  he's
• 3:24
  going
• 3:24
  to
• 3:24
  pitch
• 3:24
  in
• 3:24
  the
• 3:24
  simulated
• 3:25
  game.
• 3:25
  So
• 3:25
  Houston,
• 3:26
  you
• 3:26
  know,
• 3:27
  for.
• 3:27
  For
• 3:27
  all
• 3:28
  the
• 3:28
  great
• 3:28
  things
• 3:28
  he
• 3:28
  did
• 3:29
  on
• 3:29
  a
• 3:29
  baseball
• 3:29
  field,
• 3:31
  wasn't
• 3:31
  a
• 3:31
  big
• 3:31
  bat.
• 3:33
  Let's
• 3:33
  go
• 3:34
  with.
• 3:34
  With
• 3:34
  that.
• 3:35
  And.
• 3:36
  But
• 3:37
  I
• 3:37
  think
• 3:38
  through
• 3:38
  three
• 3:39
  simulated
• 3:39
  at
• 3:40
  bats
• 3:40
  against
• 3:40
  Nolan,
• 3:41
  he
• 3:41
  had
• 3:42
  a
• 3:42
  double,
• 3:43
  a
• 3:43
  single,
• 3:43
  and
• 3:44
  a
• 3:44
  walk.
• 3:46
  Comes
• 3:46
  up
• 3:46
  again,
• 3:47
  and
• 3:47
  I'm.
• 3:47
  I
• 3:48
  know
• 3:48
  I'm
• 3:48
  gonna
• 3:48
  get
• 3:48
  it
• 3:48
  not
• 3:49
  quite
• 3:49
  right.
• 3:50
  Comes
• 3:50
  up
• 3:50
  again,
• 3:51
  gets
• 3:51
  another
• 3:51
  hit.
• 3:51
  He's
• 3:52
  standing
• 3:52
  on
• 3:52
  first
• 3:52
  base,
• 3:53
  and
• 3:53
  Nolan's
• 3:54
  like,
• 3:54
  Siri.
• 3:54
  He
• 3:55
  looks
• 3:55
  over
• 3:55
  at.
• 3:56
  He
• 3:56
  goes,
• 3:56
  hey,
• 3:56
  kid,
• 3:57
  how
• 3:57
  many
• 3:57
  hits
• 3:58
  you
• 3:58
  got
• 3:58
  off
• 3:58
  me
• 3:58
  today?
• 3:59
  And
• 4:00
  Jeff
• 4:00
  Houston
• 4:00
  thinks
• 4:01
  it
• 4:01
  over.
• 4:01
  Thinks
• 4:02
  it
• 4:02
  over,
• 4:02
  looks
• 4:03
  up
• 4:03
  and
• 4:03
  goes,
• 4:04
  none.
• 4:05
  And
• 4:05
  Nolan
• 4:06
  said,
• 4:06
  you
• 4:06
  got
• 4:06
  that
• 4:07
  right.
• 4:08
  So
• 4:09
  he's
• 4:09
  got
• 4:09
  one
• 4:09
  more
• 4:10
  bat
• 4:10
  left
• 4:10
  against
• 4:11
  Nolan,
• 4:11
  and
• 4:11
  he's
• 4:12
  like,
• 4:12
  I'm
• 4:12
  wearing
• 4:12
  it.
• 4:13
  I
• 4:13
  know
• 4:13
  I'm
• 4:13
  his
• 4:14
  new
• 4:14
  teammate.
• 4:14
  It's
• 4:15
  a
• 4:15
  simulated
• 4:16
  game,
• 4:16
  but
• 4:16
  I'm
• 4:16
  definitely
• 4:17
  wearing
• 4:17
  it.
• 4:18
  And
• 4:18
  sure
• 4:18
  enough,
• 4:19
  first
• 4:19
  pitch,
• 4:19
  fastball
• 4:20
  in
• 4:21
  Jeff
• 4:21
  Houston
• 4:21
  just
• 4:22
  trying
• 4:22
  to
• 4:22
  protect
• 4:22
  himself.
• 4:23
  Just
• 4:23
  get
• 4:23
  the
• 4:23
  bat
• 4:24
  in
• 4:24
  front
• 4:24
  of
• 4:24
  the
• 4:24
  ball
• 4:24
  so
• 4:25
  it
• 4:25
  doesn't
• 4:25
  hit
• 4:25
  him
• 4:25
  square
• 4:26
  in
• 4:26
  the
• 4:26
  ribs.
• 4:27
  Bat
• 4:27
  shatters
• 4:28
  everywhere.
• 4:29
  Ball
• 4:29
  flutters
• 4:30
  into
• 4:30
  the
• 4:30
  outfield,
• 4:31
  lands
• 4:31
  in
• 4:31
  the
• 4:31
  outfield
• 4:32
  grass,
• 4:32
  and
• 4:33
  now
• 4:33
  he
• 4:33
  gets
• 4:34
  to
• 4:34
  first
• 4:34
  base.
• 4:34
  Can't
• 4:34
  even
• 4:35
  look
• 4:35
  at
• 4:35
  Nolan.
• 4:35
  Not
• 4:36
  even.
• 4:36
  Not
• 4:36
  going
• 4:36
  to
• 4:37
  look.
• 4:37
  Nothing.
• 4:38
  Afterward,
• 4:38
  he
• 4:39
  brings
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  pieces,
• 4:40
  the
• 4:40
  bat
• 4:40
  to
• 4:40
  NOLAN
• 4:41
  and
• 4:41
  says,
• 4:42
  Mr.
• 4:42
  Ryan,
• 4:43
  would
• 4:43
  you
• 4:44
  sign
• 4:44
  my
• 4:44
  bat?
• 4:46
  Nolan
• 4:46
  very
• 4:47
  big
• 4:47
  smile
• 4:47
  and
• 4:48
  says.
• 4:48
  Takes
• 4:49
  the
• 4:49
  bat
• 4:49
  and
• 4:49
  says,
• 4:50
  all
• 4:50
  right,
• 4:50
  kid.
• 4:51
  And
• 4:51
  now
• 4:51
  you
• 4:51
  call
• 4:52
  me
• 4:52
  Texas.
• 4:53
  Yep.
• 4:53
  So
• 4:53
  that
• 4:53
  was
• 4:54
  Jeff
• 4:54
  Houston's
• 4:55
  welcome
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  Nolan's
• 4:57
  world
• 4:57
  moment.
• 4:58
  I
• 4:58
  think
• 4:59
  I.
• 4:59
  We
• 4:59
  did
• 4:59
  the.
• 5:00
  We
• 5:01
  did
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  career
• 5:02
  breakdown
• 5:03
  of
• 5:03
  Jeff
• 5:03
  Houston.
• 5:03
  I
• 5:03
  think
• 5:03
  he
• 5:04
  did
• 5:04
  not.
• 5:05
  I
• 5:05
  think
• 5:05
  he
• 5:05
  had,
• 5:05
  like,
• 5:05
  nine
• 5:06
  homers
• 5:06
  his
• 5:06
  career.
• 5:07
  So
• 5:08
  for
• 5:08
  him
• 5:08
  to
• 5:08
  go
• 5:09
  five
• 5:09
  of
• 5:09
  five
• 5:09
  or,
• 5:10
  you
• 5:10
  know,
• 5:10
  reach
• 5:10
  base
• 5:11
  five
• 5:11
  times
• 5:11
  on
• 5:12
  Nolan
• 5:12
  in
• 5:12
  a.
• 5:13
  In
• 5:13
  a
• 5:13
  spring
• 5:14
  training
• 5:15
  simulation
• 5:15
  was.
• 5:16
  It
• 5:16
  had
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  be
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  highlight
• 5:17
  of
• 5:17
  his
• 5:17
  career,
• 5:18
  right?
• 5:18
  Career
• 5:19
  highlight
• 5:19
  in
• 5:19
  March.
• 5:20
  Yeah,
• 5:21
  yeah,
• 5:22
  yeah,
• 5:22
  yeah.
• 5:22
  Mr.
• 5:23
  March.
• 5:23
  Yeah.
• 5:24
  I
• 5:24
  say,
• 5:24
  so
• 5:25
  wonderful,
• 5:25
  Jeff.
• 5:26
  He's
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  wonderful
• 5:27
  guy.
• 5:27
  Yeah,
• 5:27
  yeah,
• 5:28
  He.
• 5:28
  He
• 5:29
  was
• 5:29
  something
• 5:29
  else.
• 5:29
  But
• 5:30
  I.
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  really
• 5:31
  kind
• 5:31
  of
• 5:31
  want
• 5:31
  to
• 5:31
  get
• 5:31
  into
• 5:31
  the
• 5:31
  weeds
• 5:32
  a
• 5:32
  little
• 5:32
  bit
• 5:32
  with
• 5:32
  you,
• 5:33
  because
• 5:33
  we
• 5:33
  had.
• 5:34
  We
• 5:34
  got
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  talk
• 5:35
  to
• 5:35
  Alan
• 5:35
  Shipnock
• 5:36
  a
• 5:36
  couple
• 5:37
  weeks
• 5:37
  ago.
• 5:37
  Rory.
• 5:38
  Yeah.
• 5:38
  And
• 5:39
  he
• 5:39
  just
• 5:39
  had
• 5:40
  just.
• 5:40
  He's
• 5:40
  just
• 5:41
  come
• 5:41
  out
• 5:41
  with
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  Rory
• 5:41
  book,
• 5:42
  and
• 5:42
  he
• 5:42
  said,
• 5:43
  you
• 5:43
  know,
• 5:43
  he
• 5:43
  just
• 5:43
  come
• 5:44
  off
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  fill
• 5:44
  book
• 5:44
  and
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  live
• 5:45
  book,
• 5:46
  and
• 5:46
  he
• 5:46
  had
• 5:46
  been
• 5:46
  kind
• 5:47
  of
• 5:47
  writing
• 5:47
  about,
• 5:47
  you
• 5:48
  know,
• 5:48
  some,
• 5:48
  some
• 5:48
  checkered.
• 5:49
  Some
• 5:49
  checkered
• 5:50
  people
• 5:50
  in
• 5:50
  the.
• 5:50
  He
• 5:51
  said
• 5:51
  he
• 5:51
  had
• 5:51
  a
• 5:51
  friend
• 5:52
  tell
• 5:52
  him,
• 5:52
  you
• 5:52
  know,
• 5:52
  we
• 5:53
  need
• 5:53
  stories
• 5:53
  about
• 5:54
  heroes.
• 5:55
  And
• 5:55
  that's,
• 5:56
  you
• 5:56
  know,
• 5:56
  for
• 5:57
  him,
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  Rory
• 5:57
  book
• 5:58
  was
• 5:58
  about
• 5:58
  that.
• 5:58
  And
• 5:59
  I
• 5:59
  kind
• 5:59
  of
• 6:00
  wondered
• 6:00
  if
• 6:00
  that,
• 6:01
  as
• 6:01
  a
• 6:01
  writer,
• 6:01
  appealed
• 6:02
  to
• 6:02
  you,
• 6:02
  that
• 6:03
  you,
• 6:03
  you
• 6:03
  know,
• 6:03
  you're.
• 6:04
  Nolan's
• 6:05
  almost
• 6:05
  80
• 6:06
  when
• 6:06
  you're
• 6:06
  writing
• 6:06
  this
• 6:07
  and
• 6:08
  knowing
• 6:08
  that
• 6:08
  you're
• 6:09
  going
• 6:09
  to
• 6:10
  basically
• 6:10
  get
• 6:11
  to
• 6:11
  enjoy
• 6:12
  what
• 6:12
  you
• 6:12
  get
• 6:12
  to
• 6:13
  do
• 6:13
  for
• 6:13
  two
• 6:13
  years
• 6:14
  writing
• 6:14
  about
• 6:14
  this
• 6:15
  hero.
• 6:15
  Yeah,
• 6:16
  that's
• 6:16
  a
• 6:17
  really
• 6:17
  good
• 6:17
  point.
• 6:18
  And
• 6:18
  I'm,
• 6:18
  I'm
• 6:19
  a
• 6:19
  little,
• 6:19
  like,
• 6:19
  taken
• 6:19
  aback
• 6:20
  that
• 6:20
  you
• 6:20
  brought
• 6:20
  it
• 6:20
  up,
• 6:20
  because
• 6:21
  I
• 6:22
  had
• 6:22
  finished
• 6:22
  the
• 6:22
  book
• 6:23
  and
• 6:26
  I
• 6:26
  thought,
• 6:27
  wow,
• 6:27
  this
• 6:27
  is.
• 6:28
  I
• 6:28
  hadn't
• 6:29
  intended
• 6:29
  it
• 6:29
  to
• 6:30
  be.
• 6:30
  I
• 6:30
  think
• 6:30
  the
• 6:31
  word
• 6:31
  is
• 6:32
  hagiography,
• 6:33
  which
• 6:34
  is,
• 6:35
  means
• 6:35
  like
• 6:36
  sort
• 6:37
  of
• 6:37
  writing
• 6:37
  a.
• 6:38
  Offering
• 6:39
  someone
• 6:39
  sainthood,
• 6:40
  right?
• 6:41
  And
• 6:43
  I
• 6:44
  thought,
• 6:44
  wow,
• 6:44
  this
• 6:44
  is
• 6:44
  a
• 6:45
  really
• 6:45
  positive
• 6:45
  book.
• 6:46
  I
• 6:46
  didn't
• 6:46
  go
• 6:46
  in
• 6:47
  thinking
• 6:47
  positive,
• 6:48
  negative,
• 6:48
  anything.
• 6:48
  I
• 6:49
  just
• 6:49
  wanted
• 6:49
  to
• 6:49
  go
• 6:50
  and
• 6:50
  to
• 6:50
  your
• 6:50
  point,
• 6:51
  tell
• 6:51
  good
• 6:52
  stories,
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  know,
• 6:54
  try
• 6:54
  to
• 6:55
  recapture
• 6:55
  an
• 6:56
  age
• 6:56
  of
• 6:56
  baseball
• 6:57
  that
• 6:58
  is.
• 6:58
  Is
• 6:59
  gone
• 7:00
  and
• 7:00
  the
• 7:01
  type
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  player
• 7:02
  who
• 7:02
  played
• 7:03
  that
• 7:03
  kind
• 7:03
  of
• 7:03
  game,
• 7:05
  also
• 7:05
  gone.
• 7:06
  And
• 7:07
  so
• 7:07
  the
• 7:07
  book
• 7:07
  was
• 7:07
  finished
• 7:08
  and
• 7:08
  I
• 7:08
  thought,
• 7:08
  well,
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  know,
• 7:09
  it's,
• 7:10
  it's
• 7:11
  really
• 7:11
  positive.
• 7:12
  And
• 7:13
  I,
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  was
• 7:14
  sort
• 7:14
  of
• 7:14
  second
• 7:15
  guessing
• 7:15
  myself.
• 7:15
  Like,
• 7:16
  I
• 7:16
  couldn't.
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  don't
• 7:17
  know,
• 7:18
  should
• 7:18
  it
• 7:18
  have
• 7:18
  been.
• 7:19
  Is
• 7:19
  it.
• 7:19
  Is
• 7:19
  it
• 7:19
  gonna
• 7:20
  play
• 7:20
  weird?
• 7:21
  And
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  saw
• 7:22
  Alan
• 7:23
  talking
• 7:23
  about
• 7:24
  the
• 7:24
  Rory
• 7:24
  book
• 7:25
  and
• 7:26
  someone
• 7:26
  reminded
• 7:27
  him,
• 7:27
  hey,
• 7:28
  you
• 7:28
  know,
• 7:29
  we
• 7:29
  need
• 7:30
  heroes
• 7:30
  too.
• 7:32
  And
• 7:32
  it
• 7:32
  really
• 7:32
  softened
• 7:33
  my
• 7:33
  view
• 7:34
  of
• 7:34
  what
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  had
• 7:35
  done
• 7:36
  because
• 7:36
  I,
• 7:37
  again,
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  didn't
• 7:38
  go
• 7:38
  in
• 7:39
  thinking,
• 7:39
  all
• 7:39
  right,
• 7:40
  super
• 7:40
  positive
• 7:41
  or
• 7:41
  super
• 7:41
  negative
• 7:42
  or
• 7:42
  anything
• 7:43
  because
• 7:44
  Nolan
• 7:44
  has
• 7:44
  his
• 7:44
  detractors
• 7:45
  as
• 7:45
  well.
• 7:47
  And
• 7:48
  that
• 7:48
  really,
• 7:49
  it's
• 7:49
  funny,
• 7:50
  the
• 7:50
  ship
• 7:50
  nut
• 7:51
  and
• 7:51
  the
• 7:51
  hero
• 7:52
  thing
• 7:52
  really
• 7:52
  sort
• 7:53
  of
• 7:53
  put
• 7:53
  my
• 7:53
  heart
• 7:53
  at
• 7:53
  ease
• 7:54
  and
• 7:54
  thinking,
• 7:54
  okay,
• 7:57
  I've
• 7:57
  done
• 7:57
  something
• 7:58
  nice
• 7:58
  and,
• 7:59
  and,
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  that's
• 8:00
  okay.
• 8:00
  You
• 8:00
  know,
• 8:01
  in
• 8:01
  an
• 8:01
  age
• 8:01
  of
• 8:01
  where
• 8:02
  everyone's
• 8:02
  tearing
• 8:02
  each
• 8:02
  other
• 8:03
  to
• 8:03
  pieces,
• 8:03
  it's
• 8:04
  okay
• 8:04
  to
• 8:04
  write
• 8:04
  a
• 8:05
  book
• 8:05
  about
• 8:05
  someone
• 8:06
  who
• 8:06
  you
• 8:06
  admire.
• 8:07
  Certainly
• 8:07
  by
• 8:07
  the,
• 8:08
  by
• 8:08
  the
• 8:08
  time
• 8:08
  I
• 8:08
  finished
• 8:09
  reporting
• 8:09
  and
• 8:09
  writing
• 8:10
  this
• 8:10
  book,
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  really,
• 8:11
  my
• 8:12
  admiration
• 8:12
  for
• 8:12
  Nolan
• 8:13
  was
• 8:13
  even
• 8:13
  more
• 8:14
  than
• 8:14
  when
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  started.
• 8:15
  There's
• 8:15
  definitely
• 8:17
  more
• 8:17
  flowers
• 8:18
  here
• 8:18
  for
• 8:18
  you.
• 8:18
  There's
• 8:19
  definitely
• 8:19
  a
• 8:19
  warmth
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  the
• 8:21
  book
• 8:22
  that
• 8:22
  comes
• 8:22
  through.
• 8:22
  You
• 8:23
  know,
• 8:23
  even
• 8:23
  at
• 8:23
  the
• 8:24
  end
• 8:24
  when,
• 8:24
  you
• 8:24
  know,
• 8:25
  he's
• 8:25
  kind
• 8:25
  of
• 8:26
  contemplating,
• 8:27
  you
• 8:27
  know,
• 8:27
  what
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  life
• 8:28
  has
• 8:28
  been
• 8:28
  and
• 8:29
  still
• 8:29
  doing
• 8:29
  the
• 8:29
  work
• 8:30
  day
• 8:30
  in
• 8:30
  and
• 8:30
  day
• 8:30
  out,
• 8:31
  like,
• 8:31
  there's
• 8:31
  still
• 8:31
  a
• 8:31
  warmth
• 8:32
  there
• 8:33
  that
• 8:33
  as
• 8:33
  a.
• 8:34
  For
• 8:34
  a
• 8:34
  reader
• 8:35
  that's
• 8:35
  incredibly
• 8:36
  appealing.
• 8:37
  And
• 8:37
  I
• 8:38
  really.
• 8:38
  I
• 8:38
  just
• 8:39
  enjoyed.
• 8:39
  I
• 8:40
  enjoyed.
• 8:40
  You
• 8:41
  know,
• 8:41
  we've
• 8:42
  already
• 8:42
  talked
• 8:42
  about
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  Houston
• 8:43
  story,
• 8:43
  but
• 8:43
  there's
• 8:43
  dozens
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  stories
• 8:44
  like
• 8:45
  that,
• 8:45
  and
• 8:46
  it's
• 8:46
  hard
• 8:46
  not
• 8:46
  to
• 8:47
  just
• 8:48
  kind
• 8:48
  of.
• 8:48
  I
• 8:49
  don't
• 8:49
  know.
• 8:49
  It.
• 8:49
  It's
• 8:50
  just.
• 8:50
  It's.
• 8:50
  I
• 8:51
  love
• 8:51
  sports
• 8:51
  biographies.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:52
  this
• 8:52
  is
• 8:52
  just,
• 8:53
  you
• 8:53
  know,
• 8:53
  straight
• 8:53
  down
• 8:54
  Main
• 8:54
  street
• 8:54
  for
• 8:54
  me.
• 8:55
  So
• 8:56
  I
• 8:57
  appreciate
• 8:57
  that.
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  think
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  could
• 8:59
  sort
• 8:59
  of
• 8:59
  relate
• 8:59
  to
• 9:00
  him.
• 9:00
  You
• 9:00
  know,
• 9:01
  he's
• 9:03
  today
• 9:03
  living
• 9:04
  outside
• 9:04
  Round
• 9:04
  Rock,
• 9:07
  sort
• 9:08
  of
• 9:08
  contemplating
• 9:08
  old
• 9:09
  age.
• 9:10
  Right.
• 9:10
  And
• 9:11
  contemplating
• 9:11
  a
• 9:12
  life
• 9:13
  well
• 9:13
  lived
• 9:14
  and
• 9:16
  how
• 9:16
  he
• 9:16
  spent
• 9:16
  it.
• 9:17
  And
• 9:18
  I'm
• 9:18
  coming
• 9:19
  up
• 9:19
  on
• 9:19
  64,
• 9:20
  and.
• 9:21
  And
• 9:21
  I
• 9:22
  have
• 9:22
  some
• 9:22
  of
• 9:22
  the
• 9:22
  same
• 9:22
  thoughts.
• 9:23
  It's
• 9:23
  like,
• 9:23
  where
• 9:23
  have
• 9:23
  you
• 9:24
  been?
• 9:24
  What
• 9:24
  did
• 9:24
  you
• 9:24
  do?
• 9:25
  How
• 9:25
  did
• 9:25
  you.
• 9:25
  And
• 9:25
  so
• 9:25
  there
• 9:26
  was
• 9:26
  this
• 9:26
  empathetic
• 9:27
  thing
• 9:27
  in
• 9:28
  me
• 9:28
  watching
• 9:29
  him.
• 9:29
  Obviously,
• 9:30
  I
• 9:30
  didn't
• 9:30
  do
• 9:30
  the
• 9:30
  things
• 9:31
  he
• 9:31
  did,
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  certainly
• 9:32
  not
• 9:32
  on
• 9:33
  a
• 9:33
  baseball
• 9:33
  field,
• 9:34
  but
• 9:35
  I
• 9:35
  could
• 9:35
  really
• 9:36
  relate
• 9:36
  to
• 9:36
  someone
• 9:36
  who's
• 9:37
  beginning
• 9:38
  to
• 9:38
  consider
• 9:40
  who
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  am,
• 9:40
  who
• 9:41
  I
• 9:41
  was,
• 9:41
  what
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  meant
• 9:42
  to
• 9:42
  people.
• 9:44
  And
• 9:45
  the
• 9:45
  Sid
• 9:46
  Holland
• 9:46
  story
• 9:46
  that's
• 9:46
  in
• 9:47
  the
• 9:47
  book
• 9:47
  about
• 9:48
  sort
• 9:48
  of
• 9:48
  helping
• 9:48
  out
• 9:49
  someone
• 9:49
  who's
• 9:50
  not
• 9:50
  as
• 9:52
  perhaps
• 9:52
  fortunate
• 9:53
  as
• 9:53
  you
• 9:53
  are.
• 9:54
  I
• 9:54
  think
• 9:54
  there
• 9:55
  were
• 9:55
  lots
• 9:55
  of
• 9:55
  parts
• 9:55
  in
• 9:55
  that
• 9:56
  where
• 9:56
  he
• 9:57
  was
• 9:58
  considering
• 9:58
  that.
• 9:59
  Yeah.
• 9:59
  I
• 10:00
  had
• 10:00
  written
• 10:01
  a
• 10:01
  note
• 10:02
  after
• 10:02
  about
• 10:02
  the
• 10:03
  first.
• 10:03
  The
• 10:03
  introduction,
• 10:04
  about
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  first
• 10:05
  35
• 10:05
  pages.
• 10:05
  I
• 10:06
  was
• 10:06
  like,
• 10:06
  asked
• 10:06
  him
• 10:07
  if
• 10:07
  he
• 10:07
  wanted
• 10:07
  to
• 10:08
  subtitle
• 10:08
  it
• 10:09
  Nolan
• 10:09
  the
• 10:09
  Last
• 10:10
  Cowboy.
• 10:11
  Dude,
• 10:12
  this
• 10:12
  is
• 10:12
  crazy.
• 10:13
  At
• 10:13
  first,
• 10:13
  the
• 10:13
  Shipnok
• 10:14
  thing
• 10:14
  and
• 10:14
  then
• 10:14
  the
• 10:15
  working
• 10:15
  title
• 10:15
  for
• 10:16
  this
• 10:16
  book
• 10:17
  all
• 10:17
  along
• 10:17
  was
• 10:18
  the
• 10:18
  Last
• 10:18
  Cow.
• 10:18
  What?
• 10:19
  Seriously?
• 10:20
  That's
• 10:20
  wild.
• 10:21
  And
• 10:23
  as
• 10:24
  I.
• 10:24
  So
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  reason
• 10:27
  it
• 10:27
  changed,
• 10:28
  it
• 10:29
  came
• 10:29
  from
• 10:29
  Nolan
• 10:29
  himself.
• 10:30
  Okay.
• 10:31
  The.
• 10:32
  The
• 10:32
  way
• 10:32
  this
• 10:32
  worked
• 10:33
  is
• 10:34
  a
• 10:34
  lot
• 10:34
  of
• 10:35
  what
• 10:35
  the
• 10:35
  Ryan's
• 10:35
  do.
• 10:36
  I'm
• 10:36
  sure
• 10:37
  you've
• 10:37
  seen
• 10:37
  the
• 10:37
  documentary,
• 10:39
  seen
• 10:39
  other
• 10:40
  books
• 10:40
  about
• 10:41
  him
• 10:43
  are
• 10:43
  done
• 10:44
  by
• 10:44
  the
• 10:44
  family.
• 10:45
  You
• 10:45
  know,
• 10:45
  they're
• 10:46
  very,
• 10:46
  very
• 10:46
  protective
• 10:47
  of
• 10:47
  Nolan,
• 10:47
  the
• 10:48
  brand
• 10:49
  and
• 10:49
  things.
• 10:49
  And
• 10:49
  they
• 10:49
  really
• 10:50
  didn't
• 10:50
  know
• 10:50
  me
• 10:50
  from.
• 10:51
  From
• 10:51
  anybody.
• 10:52
  And
• 10:52
  so
• 10:53
  they
• 10:53
  were
• 10:53
  very
• 10:53
  reluctant
• 10:53
  early
• 10:54
  in
• 10:54
  the.
• 10:54
  In
• 10:54
  the
• 10:55
  process.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:55
  so
• 10:55
  I
• 10:55
  just
• 10:56
  left
• 10:56
  them
• 10:56
  alone
• 10:57
  and
• 10:57
  went
• 10:57
  about
• 10:57
  this
• 10:58
  process
• 10:59
  and
• 11:00
  then
• 11:01
  spent
• 11:01
  some
• 11:01
  time,
• 11:01
  ended
• 11:02
  up
• 11:02
  spending
• 11:02
  some
• 11:02
  time
• 11:03
  with
• 11:03
  Nolan
• 11:03
  after
• 11:04
  a
• 11:04
  couple
• 11:04
  years.
• 11:06
  And
• 11:07
  he
• 11:07
  and
• 11:07
  I
• 11:07
  were
• 11:07
  talking
• 11:08
  about
• 11:09
  cowboys,
• 11:10
  and
• 11:10
  he
• 11:11
  said,
• 11:11
  I'm
• 11:11
  not
• 11:11
  a
• 11:11
  cowboy.
• 11:12
  He
• 11:12
  said,
• 11:12
  I'm
• 11:13
  a
• 11:13
  rancher.
• 11:13
  I'm
• 11:14
  a
• 11:14
  cattleman.
• 11:15
  I
• 11:15
  can
• 11:16
  do
• 11:16
  some
• 11:16
  cowboy
• 11:17
  stuff,
• 11:17
  but
• 11:17
  I
• 11:18
  am
• 11:18
  not
• 11:18
  a
• 11:18
  cowboy.
• 11:19
  And
• 11:19
  I
• 11:19
  immediately
• 11:19
  got
• 11:19
  on
• 11:19
  the
• 11:20
  phone
• 11:20
  with
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  publisher
• 11:20
  and
• 11:20
  said,
• 11:21
  we
• 11:21
  got
• 11:21
  to
• 11:21
  change
• 11:22
  the
• 11:22
  title.
• 11:22
  If
• 11:22
  Nolan
• 11:23
  says
• 11:23
  he's
• 11:23
  not
• 11:23
  a
• 11:23
  cowboy,
• 11:24
  we're
• 11:24
  not
• 11:25
  going
• 11:25
  to
• 11:25
  call
• 11:25
  him
• 11:25
  a
• 11:25
  cowboy
• 11:26
  on
• 11:26
  the
• 11:26
  COVID
• 11:26
  of
• 11:26
  the
• 11:27
  book.
• 11:28
  And
• 11:28
  he.
• 11:28
  He
• 11:29
  is
• 11:29
  the
• 11:30
  Way
• 11:30
  he
• 11:30
  talked
• 11:30
  about
• 11:30
  Cowboys,
• 11:31
  it
• 11:31
  was
• 11:31
  the
• 11:32
  way
• 11:32
  he
• 11:32
  talked
• 11:32
  about
• 11:32
  his
• 11:33
  dad.
• 11:33
  You
• 11:33
  know,
• 11:34
  the
• 11:34
  hard
• 11:35
  working
• 11:36
  guys
• 11:37
  who
• 11:37
  sacrifice
• 11:38
  so
• 11:38
  much,
• 11:38
  they
• 11:38
  had
• 11:38
  these
• 11:39
  skills
• 11:39
  that
• 11:39
  very
• 11:40
  few
• 11:40
  people
• 11:40
  have.
• 11:41
  They
• 11:41
  had
• 11:41
  this
• 11:41
  want
• 11:42
  to
• 11:42
  in
• 11:42
  them
• 11:42
  that
• 11:42
  very
• 11:43
  few
• 11:43
  people
• 11:43
  have.
• 11:44
  And
• 11:44
  Nolan
• 11:45
  puts
• 11:45
  those
• 11:45
  guys
• 11:45
  on
• 11:46
  a
• 11:46
  pedestal.
• 11:46
  Hard
• 11:46
  working
• 11:47
  guys.
• 11:47
  And
• 11:47
  that
• 11:48
  reflects
• 11:48
  his
• 11:48
  career
• 11:49
  obviously
• 11:49
  as
• 11:50
  well.
• 11:51
  But
• 11:51
  the
• 11:51
  people
• 11:51
  of
• 11:52
  Alvin,
• 11:52
  people
• 11:53
  that,
• 11:53
  that
• 11:53
  he
• 11:54
  admired
• 11:54
  in
• 11:54
  Texas
• 11:55
  were
• 11:55
  hardworking,
• 11:57
  tough
• 11:57
  guys,
• 11:58
  you
• 11:58
  know,
• 11:58
  sort
• 11:59
  of
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  throwback,
• 12:00
  whatever
• 12:00
  the,
• 12:01
  whatever
• 12:01
  the
• 12:01
  new
• 12:02
  phrase,
• 12:02
  whatever
• 12:03
  an
• 12:03
  alpha
• 12:03
  male
• 12:04
  is
• 12:04
  supposed
• 12:04
  to
• 12:04
  be
• 12:05
  anymore.
• 12:06
  These
• 12:06
  were
• 12:06
  those
• 12:06
  guys
• 12:07
  and
• 12:07
  Nolan
• 12:07
  didn't
• 12:08
  want
• 12:08
  to
• 12:08
  take
• 12:08
  any.
• 12:08
  He,
• 12:09
  he,
• 12:09
  he,
• 12:10
  he
• 12:10
  values
• 12:11
  those
• 12:11
  guys
• 12:11
  so
• 12:11
  much
• 12:12
  that
• 12:12
  he
• 12:12
  didn't
• 12:12
  want
• 12:12
  to
• 12:13
  claim
• 12:13
  to
• 12:13
  be
• 12:13
  in
• 12:14
  that
• 12:14
  class
• 12:15
  of,
• 12:15
  of
• 12:15
  worker.
• 12:17
  So
• 12:17
  good
• 12:18
  call
• 12:18
  on
• 12:18
  yourself
• 12:19
  on
• 12:19
  your
• 12:19
  part.
• 12:20
  Yeah,
• 12:20
  that
• 12:20
  seems
• 12:21
  like
• 12:21
  the
• 12:21
  humble
• 12:22
  brag
• 12:22
  of
• 12:22
  a
• 12:22
  true
• 12:23
  cowboy
• 12:23
  though
• 12:23
  kind
• 12:24
  of,
• 12:24
  you
• 12:24
  know,
• 12:24
  not
• 12:24
  a
• 12:24
  humble
• 12:25
  brag,
• 12:25
  just
• 12:25
  a
• 12:25
  very
• 12:25
  humble
• 12:26
  way
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  looking
• 12:26
  at
• 12:26
  it.
• 12:27
  Because
• 12:27
  if
• 12:27
  you
• 12:28
  were
• 12:28
  just
• 12:28
  to
• 12:28
  change
• 12:28
  the
• 12:29
  venue
• 12:29
  for
• 12:29
  where
• 12:30
  the
• 12:30
  Cowboys
• 12:30
  he's
• 12:31
  referen
• 12:32
  and
• 12:32
  his
• 12:32
  work,
• 12:33
  every
• 12:33
  other
• 12:33
  word
• 12:34
  you
• 12:34
  used
• 12:34
  in
• 12:34
  there
• 12:34
  as
• 12:35
  far
• 12:35
  as
• 12:35
  hardworking,
• 12:36
  unique
• 12:36
  set
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  skills,
• 12:37
  all
• 12:37
  that
• 12:38
  stuff
• 12:38
  fits
• 12:38
  Nolan
• 12:39
  to
• 12:39
  a
• 12:39
  TE
• 12:40
  and,
• 12:40
  and
• 12:40
  even
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  humble
• 12:41
  side
• 12:41
  of
• 12:42
  it
• 12:42
  I
• 12:42
  think
• 12:42
  and
• 12:42
  not
• 12:43
  wanting
• 12:43
  to
• 12:43
  hold
• 12:43
  himself
• 12:44
  in
• 12:44
  that.
• 12:44
  So
• 12:45
  I
• 12:45
  think
• 12:45
  thinking
• 12:45
  about
• 12:46
  him
• 12:46
  like,
• 12:46
  like
• 12:47
  that
• 12:47
  and
• 12:47
  just
• 12:48
  almost
• 12:48
  like
• 12:48
  this
• 12:49
  larger
• 12:49
  than
• 12:49
  life
• 12:50
  legend
• 12:51
  while
• 12:51
  he
• 12:51
  was
• 12:51
  still
• 12:52
  even
• 12:52
  playing
• 12:52
  the
• 12:52
  game,
• 12:53
  I
• 12:53
  feel
• 12:53
  like
• 12:53
  he
• 12:53
  kind
• 12:53
  of
• 12:54
  had
• 12:54
  that.
• 12:54
  But
• 12:55
  thinking
• 12:55
  back
• 12:55
  to
• 12:56
  your
• 12:56
  books
• 12:56
  on
• 12:57
  Ankiel
• 12:57
  and
• 12:58
  Jim
• 12:58
  Abbott
• 12:59
  and,
• 12:59
  and
• 12:59
  really
• 13:00
  the
• 13:00
  psycho
• 13:01
  psychology
• 13:02
  of
• 13:02
  those
• 13:02
  two
• 13:03
  guys,
• 13:03
  where
• 13:04
  does
• 13:04
  Nolan
• 13:05
  kind
• 13:05
  of
• 13:05
  fit
• 13:05
  in
• 13:06
  the
• 13:06
  spectrum
• 13:07
  of,
• 13:07
  of
• 13:08
  that?
• 13:08
  And
• 13:08
  I
• 13:08
  mean,
• 13:09
  is
• 13:09
  he
• 13:09
  just
• 13:10
  as
• 13:10
  bulletproof
• 13:11
  I
• 13:11
  guess
• 13:12
  as
• 13:12
  it
• 13:12
  seems
• 13:12
  like
• 13:13
  he
• 13:13
  is?
• 13:15
  You
• 13:15
  know,
• 13:15
  I
• 13:15
  think
• 13:16
  early
• 13:16
  on.
• 13:19
  I,.
• 13:19
  I
• 13:20
  thought
• 13:20
  the,
• 13:21
  the,
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  Red
• 13:22
  Murph
• 13:23
  parts
• 13:23
  of
• 13:23
  this
• 13:24
  book
• 13:24
  where
• 13:25
  it
• 13:25
  sort
• 13:25
  of
• 13:25
  reflected
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  fact
• 13:27
  that
• 13:27
  Nolan
• 13:29
  was
• 13:29
  this
• 13:30
  tall,
• 13:31
  skinny,
• 13:31
  hard
• 13:32
  throwing
• 13:32
  kid
• 13:32
  who
• 13:33
  didn't
• 13:33
  have
• 13:33
  a
• 13:33
  second
• 13:33
  pitch,
• 13:36
  you
• 13:36
  know,
• 13:36
  was
• 13:37
  winning
• 13:37
  a
• 13:37
  lot
• 13:37
  of
• 13:37
  games,
• 13:37
  was
• 13:38
  striking
• 13:38
  out
• 13:38
  a
• 13:38
  lot
• 13:38
  of
• 13:39
  guys.
• 13:39
  And
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  only
• 13:40
  scout
• 13:40
  who
• 13:41
  really
• 13:41
  latched
• 13:42
  on
• 13:42
  to
• 13:42
  Nolan
• 13:43
  was
• 13:43
  Red
• 13:43
  Murph.
• 13:44
  And
• 13:45
  it
• 13:46
  wasn't
• 13:46
  like
• 13:47
  Nolan
• 13:47
  was
• 13:47
  hiding
• 13:48
  off
• 13:48
  somewhere
• 13:49
  in
• 13:49
  a
• 13:49
  corner
• 13:49
  of
• 13:50
  Texas
• 13:50
  where
• 13:51
  nobody
• 13:51
  went.
• 13:51
  People
• 13:52
  saw
• 13:52
  him
• 13:52
  pitch
• 13:52
  and
• 13:54
  something
• 13:54
  was
• 13:55
  lacking
• 13:55
  in
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  view
• 13:56
  of
• 13:57
  these
• 13:57
  scouts
• 13:58
  and
• 13:58
  didn't
• 13:58
  think
• 13:58
  and
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  think
• 14:00
  that's
• 14:00
  sort
• 14:00
  of
• 14:02
  where
• 14:02
  that
• 14:02
  goes.
• 14:02
  I
• 14:03
  think
• 14:03
  the
• 14:03
  dyslexia
• 14:04
  part
• 14:04
  of
• 14:04
  it
• 14:04
  is
• 14:04
  also
• 14:06
  not
• 14:06
  to
• 14:06
  be
• 14:06
  diminished
• 14:07
  where
• 14:09
  you
• 14:09
  know,
• 14:09
  he
• 14:09
  had
• 14:09
  five
• 14:10
  older
• 14:10
  siblings
• 14:11
  and
• 14:11
  they
• 14:11
  were
• 14:12
  all
• 14:12
  honor
• 14:12
  roll
• 14:14
  tops
• 14:14
  of
• 14:14
  their
• 14:15
  classes
• 14:16
  in
• 14:16
  honor
• 14:16
  society,
• 14:19
  high
• 14:19
  achieving,
• 14:20
  all
• 14:20
  went
• 14:21
  to
• 14:21
  college
• 14:23
  and
• 14:23
  Nolan
• 14:24
  struggled
• 14:25
  in
• 14:25
  school,
• 14:25
  particularly
• 14:26
  with
• 14:26
  the,
• 14:27
  you
• 14:27
  know,
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  reading
• 14:28
  part
• 14:28
  of
• 14:28
  it.
• 14:28
  And
• 14:28
  things
• 14:29
  like
• 14:29
  that
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  where,
• 14:30
  you
• 14:30
  know,
• 14:30
  it
• 14:31
  felt.
• 14:31
  Every
• 14:31
  day
• 14:31
  he
• 14:32
  felt
• 14:32
  he
• 14:32
  would
• 14:32
  sit
• 14:32
  in
• 14:32
  his
• 14:33
  class,
• 14:33
  the
• 14:33
  same
• 14:33
  classrooms,
• 14:34
  all
• 14:34
  his
• 14:34
  brothers
• 14:35
  and
• 14:35
  sisters
• 14:35
  sat
• 14:36
  in,
• 14:36
  in
• 14:36
  front
• 14:37
  of
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  same
• 14:37
  teachers
• 14:38
  who
• 14:38
  would
• 14:38
  say,
• 14:38
  how
• 14:38
  come
• 14:38
  you're
• 14:39
  not
• 14:39
  as
• 14:39
  smart
• 14:39
  as
• 14:39
  your
• 14:39
  brothers
• 14:40
  and
• 14:40
  sister
• 14:41
  or
• 14:41
  your
• 14:41
  brother
• 14:41
  and
• 14:42
  sisters?
• 14:43
  And,
• 14:43
  you
• 14:44
  know,
• 14:44
  so
• 14:45
  what
• 14:46
  I
• 14:46
  realized
• 14:46
  is
• 14:47
  that
• 14:47
  he
• 14:47
  could
• 14:47
  read
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  scoreboard.
• 14:49
  And
• 14:49
  so
• 14:49
  that's
• 14:49
  where.
• 14:50
  Where,
• 14:50
  you
• 14:51
  know,
• 14:51
  his.
• 14:51
  His
• 14:52
  passion
• 14:53
  went.
• 14:54
  It
• 14:54
  pushed
• 14:55
  him.
• 14:55
  As
• 14:55
  much
• 14:55
  as
• 14:55
  he
• 14:55
  loved
• 14:56
  sports
• 14:56
  and
• 14:56
  loved
• 14:57
  to
• 14:57
  throw,
• 14:57
  loved
• 14:57
  to
• 14:57
  play
• 14:58
  ball,
• 14:58
  loved
• 14:58
  to
• 14:58
  play
• 14:59
  basketball,
• 14:59
  was
• 14:59
  a
• 14:59
  good
• 14:59
  basketball
• 15:00
  player
• 15:00
  as
• 15:00
  well.
• 15:01
  The.
• 15:01
  The
• 15:02
  really
• 15:04
  shoved
• 15:05
  him
• 15:05
  even
• 15:05
  closer.
• 15:06
  It
• 15:06
  pushed
• 15:06
  him
• 15:07
  even
• 15:07
  further
• 15:07
  onto
• 15:08
  that
• 15:08
  field
• 15:08
  and,
• 15:08
  and,
• 15:09
  you
• 15:09
  know,
• 15:09
  that
• 15:09
  compete
• 15:10
  level
• 15:10
  and
• 15:10
  everything,
• 15:11
  you
• 15:12
  know,
• 15:12
  I
• 15:12
  don't.
• 15:12
  I
• 15:12
  don't
• 15:12
  think
• 15:13
  Nolan
• 15:13
  certainly,
• 15:14
  you
• 15:14
  know,
• 15:14
  you
• 15:14
  know,
• 15:14
  with
• 15:14
  Jim
• 15:16
  having
• 15:16
  the.
• 15:17
  The
• 15:17
  physical
• 15:18
  challenge,
• 15:19
  with
• 15:19
  Rick
• 15:20
  having
• 15:20
  that
• 15:21
  emotional
• 15:21
  challenge,
• 15:22
  I'm
• 15:23
  not
• 15:23
  sure
• 15:23
  Nolan
• 15:23
  ever
• 15:24
  bumped
• 15:24
  up
• 15:24
  against
• 15:24
  that
• 15:25
  sort
• 15:25
  of
• 15:25
  thing.
• 15:26
  And
• 15:27
  this
• 15:27
  was,
• 15:28
  I
• 15:28
  don't
• 15:28
  mean
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  blab
• 15:29
  on
• 15:29
  and
• 15:29
  on,
• 15:29
  but
• 15:29
  this
• 15:29
  was
• 15:29
  sort
• 15:30
  of
• 15:30
  the
• 15:30
  challenge.
• 15:30
  The
• 15:31
  first
• 15:31
  time
• 15:31
  I'd
• 15:32
  really
• 15:32
  taken
• 15:32
  on
• 15:32
  a
• 15:33
  subject
• 15:33
  where
• 15:33
  I
• 15:33
  thought,
• 15:33
  you
• 15:34
  know,
• 15:34
  everybody
• 15:35
  who
• 15:35
  sees
• 15:36
  this
• 15:36
  book
• 15:36
  in
• 15:36
  a
• 15:36
  bookstore
• 15:37
  is
• 15:37
  going
• 15:37
  to
• 15:37
  think,
• 15:37
  I
• 15:38
  already
• 15:38
  know
• 15:38
  Nolan
• 15:38
  Ryan.
• 15:39
  I
• 15:39
  already
• 15:39
  know
• 15:39
  everything
• 15:39
  I
• 15:40
  want
• 15:40
  to
• 15:40
  know
• 15:40
  about
• 15:40
  Nolan
• 15:41
  Ryan,
• 15:41
  please.
• 15:41
  Particularly
• 15:42
  if
• 15:42
  you're
• 15:42
  35,
• 15:43
  40
• 15:43
  years
• 15:43
  old
• 15:43
  or
• 15:44
  older.
• 15:44
  You.
• 15:45
  You
• 15:45
  grew
• 15:45
  up,
• 15:46
  you
• 15:46
  knew
• 15:46
  who
• 15:46
  Nolan
• 15:47
  Ryan
• 15:47
  was.
• 15:48
  So
• 15:48
  that
• 15:49
  was
• 15:49
  the
• 15:49
  challenge
• 15:50
  of.
• 15:50
  This
• 15:51
  is
• 15:51
  like,
• 15:51
  okay,
• 15:51
  what
• 15:51
  are
• 15:52
  you
• 15:52
  going
• 15:52
  to
• 15:52
  tell
• 15:52
  people
• 15:52
  they
• 15:52
  don't
• 15:53
  already
• 15:53
  know?
• 15:54
  Yeah,
• 15:56
  it,
• 15:57
  you
• 15:58
  know,
• 15:58
  you
• 15:58
  talked
• 15:58
  about
• 15:59
  with
• 16:00
  respect
• 16:00
  to
• 16:00
  Aunt
• 16:01
  Keel
• 16:01
  and
• 16:01
  Abbott
• 16:02
  and
• 16:02
  their
• 16:03
  things
• 16:03
  that
• 16:03
  they
• 16:03
  had
• 16:04
  to
• 16:04
  overcome.
• 16:04
  What
• 16:04
  was
• 16:04
  interesting
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  me
• 16:06
  reading
• 16:06
  the
• 16:07
  book
• 16:07
  was
• 16:08
  basically
• 16:09
  how
• 16:11
  GMs
• 16:11
  or
• 16:12
  ownership
• 16:13
  would
• 16:14
  kind
• 16:14
  of.
• 16:14
  The
• 16:15
  bridges
• 16:15
  would
• 16:15
  be
• 16:15
  burned
• 16:16
  between
• 16:16
  them
• 16:17
  and
• 16:17
  Nolan
• 16:17
  at
• 16:18
  the
• 16:18
  end
• 16:18
  of
• 16:18
  each
• 16:18
  stop.
• 16:19
  The
• 16:20
  Mets,
• 16:20
  the
• 16:20
  Astros,
• 16:21
  the
• 16:21
  Angels.
• 16:22
  And
• 16:22
  it
• 16:22
  didn't
• 16:22
  happen
• 16:22
  that
• 16:23
  way
• 16:23
  with
• 16:23
  Texas.
• 16:23
  I'd
• 16:24
  like
• 16:24
  to
• 16:24
  get
• 16:24
  into
• 16:24
  that
• 16:24
  in
• 16:25
  a
• 16:25
  little
• 16:25
  bit,
• 16:25
  but
• 16:26
  do
• 16:27
  you
• 16:27
  feel
• 16:27
  like
• 16:28
  those
• 16:28
  things.
• 16:30
  It
• 16:30
  was
• 16:30
  almost,
• 16:31
  when
• 16:31
  I
• 16:31
  was
• 16:31
  reading
• 16:31
  the
• 16:31
  book,
• 16:32
  it
• 16:32
  was
• 16:32
  almost
• 16:32
  Jordanesque.
• 16:33
  It
• 16:33
  was
• 16:33
  almost
• 16:33
  the
• 16:34
  last
• 16:34
  dance
• 16:34
  where
• 16:35
  this
• 16:35
  chip
• 16:35
  is
• 16:36
  on
• 16:36
  my
• 16:36
  shoulder.
• 16:36
  And,
• 16:37
  you
• 16:37
  know,
• 16:37
  the
• 16:38
  Mets,
• 16:39
  basically,
• 16:40
  he
• 16:40
  was
• 16:40
  a
• 16:40
  baby.
• 16:41
  He
• 16:41
  was
• 16:41
  still
• 16:41
  a
• 16:41
  baby.
• 16:42
  He
• 16:42
  was
• 16:42
  still
• 16:42
  learning
• 16:42
  how
• 16:42
  to
• 16:42
  pitch.
• 16:43
  Yeah.
• 16:43
  And
• 16:44
  there
• 16:44
  was
• 16:44
  no
• 16:44
  recognition
• 16:45
  there
• 16:45
  of
• 16:46
  what
• 16:46
  the.
• 16:46
  Of
• 16:46
  what
• 16:46
  he
• 16:46
  needed.
• 16:47
  And
• 16:48
  he
• 16:48
  talks
• 16:48
  about
• 16:49
  he
• 16:49
  got
• 16:49
  it
• 16:49
  in
• 16:49
  California.
• 16:50
  Like,
• 16:50
  he
• 16:50
  became
• 16:51
  a
• 16:51
  pitcher
• 16:51
  in
• 16:51
  California.
• 16:52
  They
• 16:52
  let
• 16:52
  him
• 16:52
  throw
• 16:53
  every
• 16:53
  four
• 16:53
  days.
• 16:53
  They
• 16:54
  let
• 16:54
  him
• 16:54
  kind
• 16:54
  of
• 16:54
  be
• 16:54
  himself.
• 16:55
  Do
• 16:56
  you
• 16:56
  feel
• 16:56
  like
• 16:56
  these
• 16:57
  slights
• 16:57
  along
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  way,
• 16:59
  you
• 16:59
  know,
• 16:59
  basically,
• 17:00
  is
• 17:00
  Nolan
• 17:00
  the
• 17:00
  pitcher,
• 17:02
  you
• 17:02
  know,
• 17:02
  that
• 17:02
  we
• 17:02
  know
• 17:02
  of
• 17:03
  him
• 17:03
  today,
• 17:04
  without
• 17:04
  him
• 17:04
  kind
• 17:04
  of
• 17:05
  going
• 17:05
  through
• 17:05
  that
• 17:05
  with
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  Mets,
• 17:06
  basically,
• 17:06
  in
• 17:07
  the
• 17:07
  early
• 17:07
  days,
• 17:08
  yeah,
• 17:09
  I
• 17:09
  think.
• 17:10
  Some
• 17:10
  of
• 17:10
  the
• 17:12
  situations
• 17:12
  were
• 17:13
  slightly
• 17:13
  different.
• 17:14
  You
• 17:14
  know,
• 17:14
  Nolan
• 17:14
  was
• 17:15
  desperately
• 17:15
  searching
• 17:16
  for
• 17:16
  coaching
• 17:16
  when
• 17:17
  he
• 17:17
  was
• 17:17
  with
• 17:17
  the
• 17:17
  Mets.
• 17:18
  You
• 17:18
  know,
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  pitching
• 17:19
  coach
• 17:19
  in
• 17:19
  New
• 17:19
  York
• 17:20
  was
• 17:20
  a
• 17:20
  catcher,
• 17:21
  and
• 17:22
  while
• 17:22
  he
• 17:22
  maybe
• 17:22
  could
• 17:23
  talk
• 17:23
  about
• 17:24
  what
• 17:24
  sorts
• 17:24
  of
• 17:24
  pitches
• 17:25
  to
• 17:25
  throw,
• 17:25
  he.
• 17:25
  Nolan
• 17:26
  needed
• 17:26
  mechanical
• 17:27
  help.
• 17:28
  Right.
• 17:28
  He
• 17:28
  was.
• 17:29
  He
• 17:29
  was
• 17:29
  wild.
• 17:29
  He
• 17:30
  needed
• 17:30
  to.
• 17:30
  To
• 17:31
  streamline
• 17:31
  that
• 17:31
  delivery
• 17:33
  and
• 17:33
  be
• 17:33
  able
• 17:33
  to
• 17:34
  get
• 17:34
  behind
• 17:34
  the
• 17:34
  pitch
• 17:35
  and
• 17:35
  keep
• 17:36
  it
• 17:36
  on
• 17:36
  a.
• 17:36
  You
• 17:37
  know,
• 17:37
  in
• 17:37
  the
• 17:37
  general
• 17:38
  area.
• 17:40
  But
• 17:40
  I
• 17:41
  do
• 17:41
  think
• 17:42
  so.
• 17:42
  I
• 17:43
  asked
• 17:43
  a
• 17:43
  lot
• 17:43
  of
• 17:43
  people
• 17:44
  about
• 17:44
  this,
• 17:45
  about,
• 17:45
  okay,
• 17:46
  every
• 17:46
  stop,
• 17:46
  right?
• 17:47
  He's.
• 17:47
  He's
• 17:47
  mad
• 17:47
  at
• 17:47
  the
• 17:48
  Mets,
• 17:48
  and
• 17:48
  then
• 17:48
  he's
• 17:49
  mad
• 17:49
  at
• 17:49
  Buzzy
• 17:50
  Vivaci
• 17:50
  in
• 17:50
  California,
• 17:51
  and
• 17:51
  then
• 17:51
  he's
• 17:52
  mad
• 17:52
  that
• 17:52
  John
• 17:53
  McMullen
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  he
• 17:54
  Houston,
• 17:54
  and
• 17:54
  then
• 17:55
  ultimately,
• 17:56
  even
• 17:56
  in
• 17:56
  Texas,
• 17:57
  he
• 17:58
  wasn't
• 17:58
  playing
• 17:58
  anymore.
• 17:59
  But
• 17:59
  that
• 17:59
  ended
• 17:59
  poorly
• 18:00
  as
• 18:00
  well.
• 18:00
  Well,
• 18:00
  that's
• 18:00
  true,
• 18:01
  too.
• 18:02
  And
• 18:03
  what
• 18:04
  I
• 18:04
  got
• 18:04
  over
• 18:04
  and
• 18:05
  over
• 18:05
  again
• 18:05
  was,
• 18:05
  this
• 18:06
  is
• 18:06
  a
• 18:06
  really
• 18:06
  proud
• 18:07
  guy.
• 18:07
  This
• 18:08
  is
• 18:08
  a
• 18:08
  guy
• 18:08
  who.
• 18:08
  Who
• 18:09
  works
• 18:09
  hard,
• 18:10
  who
• 18:11
  has
• 18:13
  a
• 18:14
  very
• 18:14
  pure
• 18:14
  vision
• 18:15
  of
• 18:15
  who
• 18:15
  he
• 18:16
  needs
• 18:16
  to
• 18:16
  be
• 18:17
  and.
• 18:17
  And
• 18:17
  how
• 18:18
  things
• 18:18
  need
• 18:18
  to
• 18:19
  happen.
• 18:20
  And
• 18:20
  when
• 18:21
  they
• 18:21
  don't
• 18:21
  go
• 18:22
  that
• 18:22
  way,
• 18:23
  it
• 18:23
  bothers
• 18:23
  him.
• 18:24
  And
• 18:24
  I
• 18:25
  don't.
• 18:26
  I
• 18:26
  kept
• 18:26
  asking,
• 18:27
  is
• 18:27
  it
• 18:27
  an
• 18:27
  ego
• 18:27
  thing?
• 18:28
  Is
• 18:28
  it
• 18:28
  a.
• 18:28
  And
• 18:28
  it
• 18:29
  wasn't
• 18:29
  so
• 18:29
  much
• 18:29
  that
• 18:30
  as
• 18:30
  just
• 18:30
  pride,
• 18:31
  just
• 18:32
  the
• 18:32
  sensibility
• 18:33
  that,
• 18:35
  you
• 18:35
  know.
• 18:37
  Yeah.
• 18:37
  Could
• 18:37
  he
• 18:38
  have
• 18:38
  been
• 18:38
  treated
• 18:38
  better
• 18:39
  getting
• 18:39
  out
• 18:39
  of
• 18:39
  Houston?
• 18:40
  Probably.
• 18:40
  Could
• 18:41
  Buzzy
• 18:41
  Bavasi
• 18:42
  not
• 18:42
  have
• 18:42
  said,
• 18:42
  oh,
• 18:43
  I'll
• 18:43
  just
• 18:43
  go
• 18:43
  get
• 18:43
  two
• 18:43
  eight
• 18:44
  and
• 18:44
  seven
• 18:44
  pitchers?
• 18:45
  You
• 18:45
  know,
• 18:45
  these
• 18:46
  things.
• 18:46
  Live
• 18:46
  with
• 18:46
  a
• 18:47
  guy
• 18:47
  for
• 18:47
  a
• 18:47
  while,
• 18:47
  right?
• 18:49
  It's
• 18:49
  rough.
• 18:50
  And
• 18:50
  I
• 18:50
  think
• 18:51
  Nolan
• 18:51
  was
• 18:51
  just
• 18:51
  very.
• 18:52
  A
• 18:52
  very
• 18:52
  prideful
• 18:52
  guy.
• 18:53
  He
• 18:53
  worked
• 18:53
  hard
• 18:54
  enough
• 18:54
  and
• 18:55
  produced
• 18:55
  enough,
• 18:56
  he
• 18:56
  thought,
• 18:56
  where
• 18:56
  he
• 18:57
  perhaps
• 18:58
  deserved
• 18:59
  a
• 18:59
  little
• 18:59
  better.
• 19:00
  Yeah,
• 19:02
  I.
• 19:04
  I
• 19:04
  really
• 19:04
  would
• 19:04
  like
• 19:05
  to
• 19:05
  kind
• 19:05
  of
• 19:05
  talk
• 19:06
  about
• 19:06
  Nolan's
• 19:07
  time
• 19:07
  in
• 19:07
  Texas,
• 19:08
  because
• 19:09
  there
• 19:09
  were
• 19:09
  things
• 19:09
  that
• 19:10
  I
• 19:10
  learned
• 19:10
  when
• 19:10
  he
• 19:11
  signed
• 19:11
  with
• 19:12
  the
• 19:12
  Rangers.
• 19:14
  I
• 19:14
  had.
• 19:14
  You
• 19:15
  know,
• 19:15
  that
• 19:15
  was
• 19:15
  a.
• 19:16
  For
• 19:16
  looking
• 19:16
  back
• 19:16
  as
• 19:17
  a
• 19:17
  Ranger
• 19:17
  fan,
• 19:17
  that
• 19:17
  was
• 19:18
  a
• 19:18
  magical
• 19:18
  off
• 19:18
  season.
• 19:19
  We
• 19:19
  signed
• 19:19
  Nolan.
• 19:20
  We
• 19:20
  traded
• 19:20
  for
• 19:20
  Rafael
• 19:21
  Palmeira.
• 19:21
  We
• 19:21
  traded
• 19:22
  for
• 19:22
  Julio
• 19:22
  Franco.
• 19:23
  You
• 19:23
  know,
• 19:24
  I've
• 19:25
  actually
• 19:25
  had
• 19:26
  a
• 19:26
  chance
• 19:26
  to
• 19:26
  talk
• 19:26
  to
• 19:27
  Tom
• 19:27
  Grieve
• 19:27
  on
• 19:27
  a
• 19:28
  couple
• 19:28
  of
• 19:28
  occasions.
• 19:29
  There
• 19:29
  was
• 19:29
  a
• 19:30
  Tom
• 19:30
  House
• 19:30
  pitching
• 19:30
  school,
• 19:31
  and
• 19:31
  my
• 19:32
  buddy
• 19:32
  ran
• 19:32
  it,
• 19:32
  and
• 19:32
  I
• 19:33
  was
• 19:33
  just
• 19:33
  there,
• 19:33
  just
• 19:33
  kind
• 19:33
  of
• 19:34
  hanging
• 19:34
  out,
• 19:34
  and
• 19:34
  Tom
• 19:34
  Grieve
• 19:35
  was
• 19:35
  there.
• 19:35
  So
• 19:36
  he's
• 19:36
  trying
• 19:36
  to
• 19:36
  watch
• 19:36
  his
• 19:36
  grandkid,
• 19:37
  and
• 19:37
  I'm
• 19:37
  asking
• 19:38
  him
• 19:38
  about
• 19:38
  the
• 19:39
  Palmero
• 19:39
  trade.
• 19:40
  You
• 19:40
  know,
• 19:40
  I
• 19:40
  mean,
• 19:40
  at
• 19:40
  a
• 19:40
  certain
• 19:41
  point,
• 19:41
  he
• 19:41
  just
• 19:41
  kind
• 19:41
  of
• 19:42
  pushed
• 19:42
  me
• 19:42
  away.
• 19:43
  He
• 19:43
  was
• 19:43
  like,
• 19:43
  I'm
• 19:43
  gonna
• 19:43
  watch
• 19:44
  my
• 19:44
  grandkid
• 19:44
  get
• 19:44
  coached
• 19:45
  by
• 19:45
  Tom
• 19:45
  House.
• 19:46
  Like,
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  don't
• 19:46
  want
• 19:47
  to
• 19:47
  talk
• 19:47
  about
• 19:48
  Julio
• 19:48
  Franco
• 19:49
  at
• 19:49
  this
• 19:49
  time.
• 19:49
  He
• 19:50
  was
• 19:50
  awesome,
• 19:50
  but
• 19:50
  I
• 19:51
  love
• 19:51
  that
• 19:51
  stuff.
• 19:52
  When
• 19:52
  Nolan
• 19:53
  signed,
• 19:53
  you
• 19:53
  know,
• 19:54
  Grief's
• 19:55
  telling
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  story
• 19:55
  about
• 19:56
  shagging
• 19:57
  foul
• 19:57
  balls
• 19:57
  to
• 19:58
  save
• 19:58
  10
• 19:58
  bucks.
• 19:59
  Like,
• 19:59
  I
• 19:59
  just.
• 20:00
  I
• 20:00
  don't
• 20:00
  think
• 20:00
  people
• 20:01
  realize
• 20:01
  what
• 20:02
  a
• 20:02
  disaster
• 20:03
  financially
• 20:04
  just
• 20:05
  from
• 20:05
  an
• 20:05
  ownership
• 20:05
  standpoint.
• 20:06
  What
• 20:06
  a
• 20:06
  dump
• 20:07
  that
• 20:08
  Arlington
• 20:08
  Stadium
• 20:09
  was
• 20:10
  like,
• 20:10
  just
• 20:10
  what
• 20:10
  he
• 20:11
  did
• 20:11
  to
• 20:11
  kind
• 20:12
  of
• 20:12
  resurrect
• 20:13
  it,
• 20:13
  really,
• 20:14
  just
• 20:14
  for
• 20:14
  us
• 20:14
  to
• 20:14
  pay
• 20:15
  attention
• 20:15
  to
• 20:15
  baseball.
• 20:16
  The
• 20:16
  Cowboys
• 20:16
  were
• 20:17
  terrible
• 20:17
  at
• 20:17
  that
• 20:17
  time.
• 20:18
  They
• 20:18
  hadn't,
• 20:18
  you
• 20:19
  know,
• 20:19
  Jimmy
• 20:19
  and
• 20:19
  Jerry
• 20:20
  hadn't
• 20:20
  really
• 20:20
  taken
• 20:20
  over
• 20:21
  yet.
• 20:21
  So
• 20:22
  could
• 20:22
  you
• 20:22
  talk
• 20:22
  a
• 20:22
  little
• 20:22
  bit
• 20:23
  about
• 20:23
  just
• 20:23
  what
• 20:24
  a
• 20:24
  disaster
• 20:24
  the
• 20:25
  Rangers
• 20:25
  were
• 20:26
  and
• 20:26
  how,
• 20:27
  for
• 20:27
  whatever
• 20:27
  reason,
• 20:27
  I
• 20:28
  guess
• 20:28
  just
• 20:28
  because
• 20:28
  of
• 20:28
  location,
• 20:29
  he
• 20:30
  decided
• 20:30
  to
• 20:30
  sign
• 20:30
  with
• 20:31
  them?
• 20:33
  Well,
• 20:34
  you
• 20:34
  go
• 20:35
  back
• 20:35
  to
• 20:35
  the.
• 20:35
  To
• 20:35
  the
• 20:36
  Washington
• 20:36
  Senator
• 20:37
  days.
• 20:37
  It
• 20:37
  was
• 20:37
  a
• 20:38
  franchise
• 20:38
  that
• 20:38
  had
• 20:38
  never
• 20:38
  been
• 20:39
  to
• 20:39
  the
• 20:39
  postseason.
• 20:41
  Eddie
• 20:41
  Childs,
• 20:42
  who
• 20:42
  at
• 20:42
  one
• 20:43
  point,
• 20:43
  the
• 20:43
  owner,
• 20:44
  at
• 20:44
  one
• 20:44
  point
• 20:45
  had
• 20:45
  more
• 20:45
  money
• 20:45
  than
• 20:46
  God,
• 20:46
  was
• 20:47
  now
• 20:47
  basically
• 20:47
  out
• 20:47
  of
• 20:48
  money.
• 20:49
  He
• 20:49
  was
• 20:50
  trying
• 20:50
  desperately
• 20:51
  to
• 20:51
  keep
• 20:51
  the
• 20:51
  franchise
• 20:52
  in
• 20:52
  Texas.
• 20:55
  Meantime,
• 20:56
  getting
• 20:56
  closer
• 20:56
  and
• 20:56
  closer
• 20:57
  to
• 20:57
  bankruptcy.
• 20:58
  The.
• 20:59
  The
• 21:00
  Rangers
• 21:00
  were
• 21:00
  irrelevant
• 21:01
  in
• 21:02
  the
• 21:02
  league
• 21:02
  at
• 21:02
  that
• 21:02
  point.
• 21:03
  They
• 21:03
  had
• 21:04
  a
• 21:04
  few
• 21:05
  decent
• 21:05
  players,
• 21:05
  but
• 21:06
  that
• 21:06
  was
• 21:06
  it.
• 21:06
  They
• 21:06
  were
• 21:07
  just
• 21:07
  taking
• 21:07
  up
• 21:07
  a
• 21:07
  spot
• 21:08
  in
• 21:08
  the
• 21:08
  standings.
• 21:10
  And
• 21:12
  Nolan's
• 21:13
  decision,
• 21:15
  the
• 21:15
  argument
• 21:16
  that
• 21:16
  Bobby
• 21:17
  Valentine
• 21:18
  and
• 21:18
  Tom
• 21:18
  Grieve
• 21:19
  made
• 21:20
  to
• 21:20
  Nolan
• 21:21
  was,
• 21:22
  you're
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  Texan,
• 21:23
  you
• 21:24
  need
• 21:24
  to
• 21:24
  stay
• 21:24
  in
• 21:24
  Texas.
• 21:25
  And
• 21:26
  they
• 21:26
  had
• 21:26
  a
• 21:26
  pretty
• 21:26
  good
• 21:26
  sense
• 21:26
  that
• 21:27
  he
• 21:27
  wasn't
• 21:27
  going
• 21:27
  back
• 21:27
  to
• 21:28
  Houston,
• 21:28
  given
• 21:28
  the
• 21:29
  way
• 21:29
  things
• 21:29
  ended
• 21:29
  there.
• 21:30
  So
• 21:30
  that
• 21:30
  was
• 21:31
  their
• 21:31
  pitch
• 21:32
  was,
• 21:33
  come
• 21:34
  finish
• 21:34
  your
• 21:34
  career
• 21:35
  with
• 21:35
  Texas
• 21:36
  across
• 21:36
  your
• 21:37
  chest.
• 21:39
  And.
• 21:40
  And
• 21:41
  they
• 21:41
  were
• 21:41
  going
• 21:41
  to
• 21:41
  scrape
• 21:42
  together.
• 21:42
  You
• 21:42
  know,
• 21:43
  they
• 21:43
  didn't
• 21:43
  know
• 21:43
  how
• 21:43
  they
• 21:43
  were
• 21:43
  going
• 21:43
  to
• 21:44
  pay
• 21:44
  him,
• 21:44
  but
• 21:45
  they
• 21:45
  were
• 21:45
  going
• 21:45
  to
• 21:45
  make
• 21:46
  it
• 21:46
  work.
• 21:46
  John
• 21:47
  Young,
• 21:47
  the
• 21:47
  old
• 21:48
  scout,
• 21:49
  told
• 21:50
  Tom
• 21:50
  Grieve
• 21:50
  he
• 21:51
  still
• 21:51
  had.
• 21:51
  He
• 21:51
  still
• 21:52
  had
• 21:52
  a
• 21:52
  stuff
• 21:52
  in
• 21:53
  him,
• 21:54
  even
• 21:54
  at
• 21:54
  that.
• 21:54
  At
• 21:55
  that
• 21:55
  point
• 21:55
  in
• 21:55
  his
• 21:56
  life.
• 21:56
  He
• 21:56
  was,
• 21:56
  what,
• 21:57
  41
• 21:57
  years
• 21:57
  old
• 21:58
  at
• 21:58
  that
• 21:58
  point.
• 22:00
  And,
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  mean,
• 22:01
  Tom
• 22:02
  Grieve,
• 22:02
  I
• 22:02
  said,
• 22:02
  you
• 22:03
  know,
• 22:03
  well,
• 22:03
  if
• 22:03
  nothing
• 22:03
  else,
• 22:04
  he'd
• 22:04
  be
• 22:04
  in
• 22:04
  the
• 22:04
  team
• 22:04
  picture,
• 22:05
  which
• 22:05
  would
• 22:05
  help,
• 22:05
  right?
• 22:06
  And
• 22:06
  he
• 22:06
  said,
• 22:06
  no,
• 22:06
  we
• 22:07
  honestly
• 22:07
  thought
• 22:08
  he
• 22:08
  could
• 22:08
  pitch.
• 22:08
  He
• 22:09
  honestly
• 22:09
  thought
• 22:09
  he
• 22:10
  could
• 22:10
  help
• 22:10
  us.
• 22:11
  And
• 22:13
  John
• 22:13
  Blake,
• 22:14
  who's
• 22:14
  been,
• 22:14
  you
• 22:14
  know,
• 22:15
  is
• 22:15
  the
• 22:15
  PR
• 22:15
  guy
• 22:15
  there.
• 22:16
  He's
• 22:16
  been
• 22:16
  with
• 22:16
  the
• 22:16
  Rangers
• 22:17
  forever.
• 22:19
  So
• 22:19
  said,
• 22:20
  not
• 22:20
  only
• 22:20
  did
• 22:20
  he.
• 22:21
  Did
• 22:21
  he
• 22:21
  save
• 22:21
  the
• 22:22
  franchise
• 22:23
  in
• 22:23
  Texas,
• 22:24
  keep
• 22:24
  the
• 22:24
  franchise
• 22:25
  in
• 22:25
  Texas,
• 22:26
  he
• 22:26
  got
• 22:26
  the
• 22:27
  new
• 22:27
  ballpark
• 22:27
  built
• 22:28
  as
• 22:28
  well.
• 22:28
  He
• 22:29
  was
• 22:29
  the
• 22:29
  guy
• 22:29
  when.
• 22:30
  When
• 22:30
  they
• 22:30
  put
• 22:30
  it
• 22:30
  up
• 22:30
  in
• 22:30
  front
• 22:31
  of
• 22:31
  the
• 22:31
  public
• 22:31
  for
• 22:31
  a
• 22:32
  vote
• 22:32
  to
• 22:33
  finance
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  stadium.
• 22:34
  He
• 22:35
  was
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  guy
• 22:35
  on
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  yard
• 22:36
  signs.
• 22:36
  It
• 22:36
  was
• 22:36
  Nolan
• 22:37
  Ryan.
• 22:37
  Come.
• 22:37
  You
• 22:38
  know,
• 22:39
  you
• 22:39
  got
• 22:39
  to
• 22:39
  throw
• 22:39
  in
• 22:39
  a.
• 22:40
  You
• 22:40
  Know,
• 22:40
  a
• 22:40
  vote
• 22:40
  for
• 22:41
  Nolan,
• 22:41
  right?
• 22:41
  Yeah.
• 22:43
  And
• 22:43
  I
• 22:44
  think
• 22:44
  it
• 22:44
  even
• 22:44
  extends
• 22:45
  as
• 22:45
  far
• 22:45
  as
• 22:47
  the
• 22:47
  Rangers
• 22:48
  World
• 22:48
  Series
• 22:49
  championship.
• 22:49
  I
• 22:50
  mean,
• 22:50
  obviously
• 22:50
  he
• 22:50
  was
• 22:50
  team
• 22:51
  president
• 22:51
  when
• 22:51
  they
• 22:51
  went
• 22:51
  to
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  World
• 22:52
  Series
• 22:52
  and
• 22:52
  lost
• 22:53
  those
• 22:53
  two
• 22:53
  World
• 22:53
  Series.
• 22:55
  But
• 22:55
  none
• 22:56
  of
• 22:56
  that
• 22:56
  happens,
• 22:57
  that
• 22:57
  this,
• 22:58
  that
• 22:58
  era
• 22:58
  of
• 22:59
  Rangers
• 22:59
  baseball,
• 23:00
  and
• 23:00
  even
• 23:01
  with
• 23:01
  those
• 23:01
  good
• 23:01
  guys
• 23:02
  were
• 23:02
  coming,
• 23:02
  right,
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  young,
• 23:03
  they
• 23:03
  had
• 23:03
  dipped
• 23:04
  into
• 23:04
  the,
• 23:05
  the
• 23:05
  international
• 23:06
  scene
• 23:07
  and
• 23:07
  all,
• 23:09
  none
• 23:09
  of
• 23:09
  that
• 23:09
  happens
• 23:10
  without
• 23:10
  them
• 23:11
  signing
• 23:11
  Nolan
• 23:11
  Ryan.
• 23:12
  Without
• 23:12
  Nolan
• 23:12
  Ryan
• 23:13
  deciding
• 23:13
  that
• 23:13
  he,
• 23:14
  he's
• 23:14
  going
• 23:14
  to
• 23:14
  finish
• 23:14
  his
• 23:15
  career
• 23:15
  closer
• 23:16
  to
• 23:16
  his
• 23:16
  family
• 23:17
  in
• 23:17
  Texas.
• 23:19
  You
• 23:19
  know,
• 23:19
  I
• 23:19
  don't
• 23:19
  know
• 23:20
  if
• 23:20
  he
• 23:20
  had
• 23:20
  in
• 23:20
  mind
• 23:20
  that
• 23:20
  he
• 23:20
  was
• 23:21
  going
• 23:21
  to
• 23:21
  somehow,
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  was
• 23:22
  going
• 23:22
  to
• 23:23
  say
• 23:23
  resurrect,
• 23:23
  but
• 23:23
  it
• 23:23
  was
• 23:24
  never
• 23:24
  wrecked
• 23:25
  it.
• 23:25
  So.
• 23:27
  Yeah,
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  know,
• 23:28
  I
• 23:28
  don't
• 23:28
  think
• 23:29
  he
• 23:29
  had
• 23:29
  that
• 23:29
  in
• 23:29
  mind,
• 23:29
  but
• 23:29
  I,
• 23:30
  I
• 23:30
  do
• 23:30
  think
• 23:30
  that
• 23:32
  had,
• 23:32
  had
• 23:32
  Nolan
• 23:33
  not
• 23:33
  made
• 23:33
  that
• 23:33
  decision,
• 23:34
  we
• 23:34
  might
• 23:35
  be
• 23:35
  talking
• 23:35
  about,
• 23:35
  you
• 23:36
  know,
• 23:36
  the,
• 23:36
  the
• 23:37
  Tampa
• 23:37
  Bay
• 23:38
  Rangers
• 23:38
  or
• 23:38
  something.
• 23:39
  Yeah.
• 23:40
  So
• 23:40
  I'm
• 23:40
  a
• 23:41
  later
• 23:41
  in
• 23:41
  life
• 23:41
  Ranger
• 23:42
  fan,
• 23:43
  grew
• 23:43
  up
• 23:44
  somewhere
• 23:44
  between
• 23:44
  Houston
• 23:45
  and
• 23:45
  dfw.
• 23:46
  But
• 23:46
  the
• 23:46
  one
• 23:46
  thing
• 23:47
  I've
• 23:47
  always
• 23:47
  been
• 23:48
  is
• 23:48
  an
• 23:48
  Astros
• 23:49
  hater.
• 23:49
  So
• 23:49
  when
• 23:50
  he
• 23:50
  was
• 23:50
  in
• 23:50
  Houston
• 23:51
  in
• 23:51
  the
• 23:51
  80s,
• 23:51
  and
• 23:52
  that's
• 23:52
  really
• 23:52
  when
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  beginning
• 23:53
  of
• 23:53
  my
• 23:53
  baseball
• 23:54
  fandom
• 23:54
  began,
• 23:55
  I
• 23:55
  had
• 23:56
  somehow,
• 23:56
  just
• 23:57
  as
• 23:57
  a
• 23:57
  lost
• 23:57
  kid
• 23:58
  looking
• 23:58
  for
• 23:58
  fun,
• 23:59
  latched
• 23:59
  on
• 23:59
  in
• 24:00
  1986
• 24:01
  to
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  new
• 24:01
  York
• 24:01
  Mets.
• 24:02
  Early
• 24:02
  in
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  season,
• 24:03
  followed
• 24:04
  that
• 24:04
  all
• 24:04
  the
• 24:04
  way
• 24:04
  through
• 24:05
  memorable
• 24:05
  NLCs.
• 24:08
  And
• 24:08
  so
• 24:08
  you
• 24:08
  can
• 24:08
  imagine
• 24:09
  the
• 24:09
  elation
• 24:09
  kind
• 24:10
  of
• 24:10
  for
• 24:10
  me
• 24:11
  of,
• 24:11
  hey,
• 24:11
  he's
• 24:12
  leaving
• 24:12
  Houston,
• 24:12
  you
• 24:13
  know,
• 24:13
  and
• 24:13
  he
• 24:13
  kind
• 24:14
  of
• 24:14
  already
• 24:14
  was
• 24:14
  a
• 24:14
  legendary
• 24:15
  figure.
• 24:15
  You
• 24:16
  know,
• 24:16
  I
• 24:16
  mean,
• 24:16
  definitely
• 24:17
  while
• 24:17
  he
• 24:17
  was
• 24:17
  still
• 24:18
  with
• 24:18
  the
• 24:18
  Astros,
• 24:19
  he,
• 24:20
  he
• 24:20
  was
• 24:20
  a
• 24:20
  little
• 24:20
  overshadowed
• 24:21
  by
• 24:21
  Mike
• 24:21
  Scott
• 24:22
  maybe,
• 24:22
  but
• 24:23
  nonetheless,
• 24:24
  the,
• 24:25
  the
• 24:26
  elation
• 24:26
  I
• 24:26
  had
• 24:26
  when
• 24:27
  he
• 24:27
  was
• 24:27
  dealt
• 24:27
  to
• 24:28
  this
• 24:28
  other
• 24:28
  team
• 24:29
  in
• 24:29
  Texas.
• 24:30
  Right.
• 24:30
  And,
• 24:31
  and,
• 24:31
  and
• 24:31
  the
• 24:32
  excitement
• 24:32
  of
• 24:32
  getting
• 24:32
  him
• 24:33
  out
• 24:33
  of
• 24:33
  Houston.
• 24:34
  But
• 24:34
  talk
• 24:35
  to
• 24:35
  me
• 24:35
  about
• 24:35
  what
• 24:35
  you
• 24:36
  think.
• 24:36
  You
• 24:36
  know,
• 24:36
  what
• 24:37
  you,
• 24:37
  you
• 24:37
  talked
• 24:37
  about
• 24:38
  what
• 24:38
  it
• 24:38
  did
• 24:38
  for
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  Rangers,
• 24:39
  but
• 24:40
  what
• 24:40
  did
• 24:40
  it
• 24:40
  do
• 24:40
  for
• 24:40
  Nolan?
• 24:41
  So
• 24:41
  when
• 24:41
  you
• 24:42
  think
• 24:42
  about
• 24:42
  just
• 24:42
  the
• 24:43
  Rangers
• 24:44
  era
• 24:45
  of
• 24:45
  his
• 24:45
  story,
• 24:47
  what's
• 24:47
  different
• 24:47
  for
• 24:48
  Nolan
• 24:48
  if
• 24:48
  he
• 24:49
  just
• 24:49
  walks
• 24:49
  away
• 24:49
  from
• 24:49
  the
• 24:50
  game
• 24:50
  after
• 24:50
  Houston
• 24:51
  versus
• 24:51
  he
• 24:52
  goes
• 24:52
  and
• 24:52
  hits
• 24:52
  all
• 24:53
  these
• 24:53
  big
• 24:53
  milestones
• 24:54
  in
• 24:54
  Texas,
• 24:54
  right?
• 24:55
  Right.
• 24:55
  Wins
• 24:55
  his
• 24:56
  300th
• 24:56
  game,
• 24:56
  throws
• 24:57
  two
• 24:57
  more
• 24:57
  no
• 24:57
  hitters,
• 24:58
  5,000
• 24:59
  Ks.
• 25:00
  You
• 25:00
  know,
• 25:01
  I
• 25:01
  think
• 25:01
  that
• 25:02
  now
• 25:02
  we're
• 25:03
  talking
• 25:03
  legacy,
• 25:03
  right?
• 25:04
  Yeah,.
• 25:06
  I
• 25:07
  think
• 25:07
  that
• 25:10
  it's,
• 25:10
  it's
• 25:11
  difficult
• 25:11
  to
• 25:11
  talk
• 25:11
  about
• 25:12
  Nolan
• 25:12
  Ryan
• 25:12
  without
• 25:13
  talking
• 25:13
  about
• 25:13
  the
• 25:14
  numbers
• 25:14
  that
• 25:14
  all
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  strikeouts
• 25:16
  and,
• 25:16
  and
• 25:16
  the
• 25:17
  wins
• 25:17
  and
• 25:17
  the
• 25:17
  no
• 25:17
  hitters
• 25:18
  and
• 25:19
  the
• 25:20
  one
• 25:20
  hitters
• 25:20
  and
• 25:20
  the
• 25:20
  two
• 25:21
  hitters
• 25:21
  and,
• 25:22
  you
• 25:22
  know,
• 25:22
  all
• 25:22
  the
• 25:23
  235
• 25:24
  pitches
• 25:24
  he
• 25:24
  threw
• 25:24
  against
• 25:25
  the
• 25:25
  Red
• 25:25
  Sox,
• 25:25
  one
• 25:25
  day
• 25:26
  and
• 25:26
  all,
• 25:26
  all
• 25:27
  of
• 25:27
  these
• 25:27
  27
• 25:28
  years
• 25:28
  in
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  league
• 25:29
  and
• 25:29
  everything.
• 25:30
  But
• 25:30
  for
• 25:31
  me,
• 25:31
  when
• 25:31
  you're
• 25:31
  talking
• 25:31
  about
• 25:32
  legacy,
• 25:33
  that's
• 25:33
  more
• 25:34
  than
• 25:34
  numbers.
• 25:35
  That's
• 25:35
  the
• 25:36
  way
• 25:36
  a
• 25:36
  guy
• 25:36
  pitched,
• 25:37
  that's
• 25:37
  the
• 25:38
  way
• 25:38
  a
• 25:38
  guy
• 25:38
  conducted
• 25:39
  himself.
• 25:39
  That's
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  way
• 25:40
  a
• 25:40
  guy
• 25:41
  owned
• 25:41
  the
• 25:41
  zone
• 25:43
  and
• 25:43
  maybe
• 25:45
  inside
• 25:45
  a
• 25:45
  foot
• 25:46
  off
• 25:46
  the
• 25:46
  zone.
• 25:47
  That's
• 25:49
  the
• 25:49
  way
• 25:49
  a
• 25:50
  guy
• 25:50
  prepared.
• 25:51
  That's
• 25:51
  a
• 25:51
  way
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  guy
• 25:52
  made
• 25:55
  a
• 25:55
  46
• 25:56
  year
• 25:56
  old
• 25:56
  plumber
• 25:57
  in
• 25:57
  Boston
• 25:58
  feel
• 25:58
  about
• 25:58
  himself
• 26:00
  because
• 26:00
  of
• 26:01
  what
• 26:01
  he
• 26:01
  was
• 26:01
  doing.
• 26:02
  That's,
• 26:02
  that's
• 26:02
  a
• 26:02
  guy
• 26:03
  who's
• 26:03
  on
• 26:03
  TV
• 26:04
  hawking
• 26:04
  jeans
• 26:05
  and
• 26:05
  boots
• 26:05
  and
• 26:05
  hats
• 26:06
  and
• 26:06
  at,
• 26:07
  you
• 26:07
  know,
• 26:08
  aspirin
• 26:08
  and
• 26:09
  all
• 26:09
  that
• 26:09
  stuff.
• 26:10
  There
• 26:10
  was
• 26:10
  just
• 26:11
  something
• 26:11
  that
• 26:11
  happened
• 26:12
  for
• 26:12
  him
• 26:13
  in
• 26:13
  Arlington
• 26:14
  that
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  don't
• 26:15
  think
• 26:15
  was
• 26:15
  going
• 26:15
  to
• 26:15
  happen
• 26:16
  anywhere
• 26:16
  else
• 26:17
  there.
• 26:17
  It
• 26:18
  just,
• 26:19
  you
• 26:19
  know,
• 26:19
  it's
• 26:20
  funny,
• 26:20
  when
• 26:20
  I
• 26:20
  was
• 26:20
  first
• 26:21
  talking
• 26:21
  to
• 26:21
  an
• 26:22
  editor
• 26:22
  about
• 26:23
  this
• 26:23
  book,
• 26:24
  he
• 26:25
  got
• 26:25
  very
• 26:25
  excited
• 26:26
  about
• 26:26
  a
• 26:26
  Nolan
• 26:27
  idea.
• 26:28
  We
• 26:28
  talked
• 26:29
  for
• 26:29
  a
• 26:29
  while
• 26:29
  and
• 26:29
  then
• 26:30
  he
• 26:30
  revealed
• 26:30
  at
• 26:30
  the
• 26:30
  end,
• 26:31
  he
• 26:31
  goes,
• 26:31
  yeah,
• 26:31
  I
• 26:31
  grew
• 26:32
  up
• 26:32
  in
• 26:32
  Dallas
• 26:33
  and
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  thought,
• 26:34
  what
• 26:34
  is
• 26:34
  the
• 26:35
  deal
• 26:35
  with
• 26:35
  people
• 26:36
  in
• 26:36
  Texas
• 26:37
  and
• 26:37
  Nolan
• 26:37
  Ryan
• 26:38
  in
• 26:38
  my
• 26:39
  lifetime?
• 26:39
  There
• 26:40
  is
• 26:40
  no
• 26:41
  athlete
• 26:41
  who
• 26:42
  is
• 26:42
  more
• 26:43
  sort
• 26:43
  of
• 26:43
  symbolic
• 26:44
  of
• 26:44
  where
• 26:44
  he
• 26:44
  was
• 26:45
  from.
• 26:45
  There
• 26:46
  isn't
• 26:46
  a
• 26:46
  baseball
• 26:47
  writer
• 26:47
  on
• 26:47
  the
• 26:47
  planet
• 26:48
  who,
• 26:48
  if
• 26:48
  you
• 26:48
  gave
• 26:49
  him
• 26:49
  a
• 26:49
  map
• 26:49
  of
• 26:49
  the
• 26:49
  United
• 26:50
  States,
• 26:50
  couldn't
• 26:50
  put
• 26:50
  his
• 26:51
  finger
• 26:51
  on
• 26:51
  Alvin,
• 26:52
  Texas.
• 26:53
  And
• 26:53
  I
• 26:54
  think
• 26:54
  that
• 26:54
  all
• 26:54
  goes
• 26:54
  toward
• 26:55
  this
• 26:55
  legacy
• 26:55
  of
• 26:57
  who
• 26:57
  we
• 26:57
  are,
• 26:58
  who
• 26:58
  we'd
• 26:59
  like
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  be,
• 27:00
  you
• 27:00
  know,
• 27:00
  particularly
• 27:01
  at
• 27:01
  45,
• 27:01
  46
• 27:02
  years
• 27:02
  old.
• 27:02
  I
• 27:03
  mean,
• 27:03
  it
• 27:03
  was,
• 27:04
  that
• 27:04
  was,
• 27:04
  that
• 27:05
  was
• 27:05
  all
• 27:05
  happened,
• 27:06
  you
• 27:06
  know,
• 27:07
  in
• 27:07
  a
• 27:07
  Rangers
• 27:07
  uniform,
• 27:08
  those
• 27:08
  sort
• 27:09
  of
• 27:09
  things.
• 27:09
  And
• 27:10
  guys
• 27:10
  I
• 27:10
  talked
• 27:10
  to
• 27:11
  about
• 27:11
  that
• 27:12
  Texans,
• 27:13
  like
• 27:14
  West
• 27:15
  Texans,
• 27:16
  hardcore
• 27:17
  oil
• 27:18
  field,
• 27:20
  scorpions,
• 27:21
  snakes,
• 27:22
  all
• 27:22
  that
• 27:23
  stuff.
• 27:23
  Guys
• 27:24
  say,
• 27:24
  here's,
• 27:25
  here's
• 27:25
  my
• 27:25
  Texas,
• 27:27
  Mount
• 27:27
  Rushmore.
• 27:28
  Yeah,
• 27:28
  it's
• 27:29
  Sam
• 27:29
  Houston,
• 27:29
  Davy
• 27:30
  Crockett,
• 27:30
  Tom
• 27:30
  Landry
• 27:31
  and
• 27:31
  Nolan
• 27:31
  Ryan.
• 27:32
  And,
• 27:33
  and
• 27:33
  these
• 27:33
  guys
• 27:34
  might
• 27:34
  be
• 27:34
  30
• 27:35
  years
• 27:35
  old,
• 27:35
  they
• 27:36
  might
• 27:36
  be
• 27:36
  70
• 27:36
  years
• 27:37
  old.
• 27:38
  It's
• 27:38
  all
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  same
• 27:38
  four
• 27:39
  guys
• 27:39
  over
• 27:39
  and
• 27:40
  over
• 27:40
  again.
• 27:40
  Well,
• 27:41
  you've
• 27:41
  got
• 27:42
  a
• 27:42
  line.
• 27:42
  You've
• 27:43
  got
• 27:43
  a
• 27:43
  line
• 27:43
  in
• 27:43
  the
• 27:43
  book
• 27:44
  is
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  Cowboys
• 27:45
  were
• 27:45
  their
• 27:45
  team,
• 27:45
  but
• 27:45
  Nolan
• 27:46
  Ryan
• 27:46
  was
• 27:46
  their
• 27:46
  guy.
• 27:47
  Like,
• 27:47
  I
• 27:47
  highlighted
• 27:48
  that.
• 27:48
  I
• 27:48
  was
• 27:48
  like,
• 27:49
  that's
• 27:49
  how
• 27:49
  it
• 27:49
  felt.
• 27:51
  You
• 27:51
  know,
• 27:52
  12,
• 27:52
  13,
• 27:52
  14,
• 27:53
  when
• 27:53
  I'm
• 27:53
  like
• 27:54
  that,
• 27:54
  you
• 27:54
  know,
• 27:55
  it
• 27:55
  was,
• 27:55
  there
• 27:56
  were,
• 27:56
  in
• 27:56
  the
• 27:56
  hallways,
• 27:57
  there
• 27:57
  were
• 27:57
  whispers
• 27:57
  when
• 27:58
  somebody
• 27:58
  had
• 27:58
  tickets
• 27:59
  to
• 27:59
  watch
• 27:59
  Nolan
• 27:59
  pitch
• 28:00
  on
• 28:00
  Sunday.
• 28:01
  Like,
• 28:01
  hey,
• 28:01
  Bobby's
• 28:02
  going
• 28:02
  to
• 28:02
  watch
• 28:02
  Nolan
• 28:03
  pitch.
• 28:03
  Oh
• 28:03
  my
• 28:03
  gosh,
• 28:04
  really?
• 28:04
  And
• 28:04
  then
• 28:05
  Monday
• 28:05
  you
• 28:05
  would
• 28:05
  immediately
• 28:06
  go
• 28:06
  up
• 28:06
  to
• 28:06
  Bobby
• 28:07
  and
• 28:07
  go,
• 28:07
  how
• 28:07
  was
• 28:07
  it
• 28:08
  like?
• 28:08
  I
• 28:08
  mean,
• 28:08
  we
• 28:09
  just,
• 28:09
  you
• 28:09
  know,
• 28:09
  we
• 28:09
  were,
• 28:10
  I
• 28:10
  lived
• 28:10
  in
• 28:11
  Dallas
• 28:11
  or
• 28:11
  closer
• 28:11
  to
• 28:12
  Dallas.
• 28:12
  We
• 28:12
  had
• 28:12
  to
• 28:13
  take
• 28:13
  our
• 28:14
  antennas
• 28:15
  and
• 28:15
  point
• 28:15
  them
• 28:15
  towards
• 28:15
  Wichita
• 28:16
  Falls
• 28:16
  because
• 28:17
  the
• 28:17
  Cowboy
• 28:17
  games
• 28:17
  were
• 28:17
  blacked
• 28:18
  out.
• 28:18
  Like,
• 28:19
  the
• 28:19
  Rangers
• 28:19
  were
• 28:19
  honestly
• 28:20
  bigger
• 28:21
  for
• 28:21
  us
• 28:21
  growing
• 28:22
  up
• 28:22
  than
• 28:22
  the
• 28:22
  Cowboys,
• 28:23
  just
• 28:23
  because
• 28:24
  when
• 28:24
  it
• 28:24
  was
• 28:25
  baseball,
• 28:25
  but,
• 28:25
  you
• 28:25
  know,
• 28:26
  we
• 28:26
  had
• 28:26
  Ruben
• 28:26
  Sierra
• 28:27
  and
• 28:27
  those
• 28:27
  guys,
• 28:27
  like,
• 28:28
  those
• 28:28
  appealed.
• 28:28
  And
• 28:28
  then
• 28:28
  when
• 28:28
  Nolan
• 28:29
  showed
• 28:29
  up,
• 28:30
  like
• 28:31
  he
• 28:31
  was
• 28:31
  our
• 28:31
  guy
• 28:32
  and
• 28:32
  it,
• 28:33
  you
• 28:33
  know,
• 28:33
  that
• 28:34
  really,
• 28:35
  when
• 28:35
  I
• 28:35
  was
• 28:35
  reading
• 28:35
  the
• 28:35
  book
• 28:36
  that
• 28:36
  really,
• 28:37
  you
• 28:37
  know,
• 28:38
  revisit,
• 28:38
  you
• 28:38
  know,
• 28:39
  reinvigorated
• 28:39
  a
• 28:39
  lot
• 28:39
  of
• 28:39
  those
• 28:40
  memories
• 28:40
  just
• 28:41
  how
• 28:41
  beloved
• 28:42
  he
• 28:42
  is
• 28:42
  here
• 28:43
  to
• 28:43
  this
• 28:43
  day.
• 28:44
  I
• 28:44
  mean,
• 28:44
  when
• 28:44
  we
• 28:44
  did
• 28:44
  the
• 28:45
  City
• 28:45
  Connect
• 28:45
  jerseys,
• 28:46
  it
• 28:46
  was
• 28:47
  Simeon
• 28:48
  Seeger
• 28:48
  and
• 28:48
  Nolan
• 28:49
  Ryan's
• 28:49
  number.
• 28:50
  And
• 28:50
  he
• 28:50
  hasn't
• 28:51
  played
• 28:51
  for
• 28:51
  30
• 28:51
  years
• 28:52
  on
• 28:52
  the
• 28:52
  team.
• 28:52
  And
• 28:53
  those
• 28:53
  are
• 28:53
  the
• 28:53
  three
• 28:54
  uniforms
• 28:54
  they
• 28:55
  put
• 28:55
  out
• 28:55
  first.
• 28:56
  Like,
• 28:56
  it's
• 28:56
  just
• 28:56
  wild
• 28:57
  that
• 28:57
  the,
• 28:57
  The.
• 28:58
  The
• 28:58
  longitivity
• 28:59
  that
• 28:59
  he's
• 29:00
  had
• 29:00
  around
• 29:00
  here
• 29:00
  to
• 29:01
  this
• 29:01
  day.
• 29:02
  John
• 29:02
  Blake,
• 29:02
  I
• 29:03
  think
• 29:03
  it
• 29:03
  was
• 29:03
  John
• 29:03
  Blake
• 29:03
  who
• 29:04
  told
• 29:04
  me
• 29:04
  that
• 29:04
  when
• 29:06
  during
• 29:06
  the
• 29:07
  World
• 29:07
  Series
• 29:07
  years,
• 29:08
  they.
• 29:09
  They
• 29:09
  hired
• 29:09
  in
• 29:09
  a
• 29:10
  marketing
• 29:10
  firm
• 29:11
  to
• 29:11
  find
• 29:11
  out,
• 29:12
  like,
• 29:12
  what
• 29:12
  people
• 29:12
  really
• 29:13
  related
• 29:14
  with.
• 29:14
  Related
• 29:15
  to,
• 29:16
  with
• 29:16
  the
• 29:16
  Rangers
• 29:17
  and
• 29:17
  those,
• 29:17
  you
• 29:17
  know,
• 29:17
  that
• 29:18
  was
• 29:18
  Josh
• 29:18
  Hamilton
• 29:19
  and,
• 29:19
  you
• 29:20
  know,
• 29:20
  there's
• 29:20
  a
• 29:20
  lot
• 29:20
  of
• 29:20
  great
• 29:21
  players
• 29:21
  on
• 29:21
  those.
• 29:22
  Those
• 29:22
  Rangers
• 29:23
  teams.
• 29:23
  And
• 29:23
  number
• 29:24
  one
• 29:24
  every
• 29:24
  year
• 29:24
  was
• 29:24
  Nolan
• 29:25
  Ryan.
• 29:25
  Yeah,
• 29:26
  he
• 29:26
  was
• 29:26
  team
• 29:26
  president.
• 29:26
  He
• 29:27
  hadn't
• 29:27
  sniffed
• 29:28
  the
• 29:28
  field
• 29:28
  in
• 29:28
  decades,
• 29:29
  and
• 29:30
  still
• 29:30
  it
• 29:30
  was
• 29:30
  Nolan
• 29:31
  Ryan,
• 29:31
  team
• 29:32
  president.
• 29:33
  Well,
• 29:33
  not
• 29:34
  to
• 29:34
  talk
• 29:34
  about
• 29:34
  Game
• 29:34
  6
• 29:35
  of
• 29:35
  the
• 29:35
  2011
• 29:35
  World
• 29:36
  Series,
• 29:36
  but
• 29:36
  real
• 29:36
  quick,
• 29:37
  Beltre
• 29:37
  hits
• 29:37
  that
• 29:38
  homer,
• 29:38
  we
• 29:38
  go
• 29:38
  up,
• 29:39
  I
• 29:39
  think
• 29:39
  three,
• 29:40
  I
• 29:40
  think
• 29:40
  it's
• 29:41
  seven
• 29:41
  to
• 29:41
  four.
• 29:42
  And
• 29:42
  they
• 29:42
  show
• 29:42
  Daniels
• 29:43
  and
• 29:43
  Ryan
• 29:44
  in
• 29:44
  the
• 29:44
  stands.
• 29:44
  And
• 29:45
  when
• 29:45
  I
• 29:45
  saw
• 29:45
  Nolan
• 29:46
  cheering,
• 29:46
  I
• 29:46
  said
• 29:46
  audibly,
• 29:47
  we're
• 29:47
  going
• 29:47
  to
• 29:47
  win
• 29:47
  the
• 29:48
  World
• 29:48
  Series.
• 29:48
  And
• 29:49
  it
• 29:49
  was
• 29:49
  because
• 29:49
  of
• 29:49
  Nolan.
• 29:50
  Like,
• 29:50
  it
• 29:50
  was
• 29:50
  because
• 29:51
  Nolan
• 29:51
  was
• 29:52
  believing
• 29:52
  that
• 29:52
  we
• 29:52
  were
• 29:53
  going
• 29:53
  to
• 29:53
  win
• 29:53
  the
• 29:53
  World
• 29:53
  Series.
• 29:54
  Like,
• 29:54
  he
• 29:54
  kind
• 29:54
  of
• 29:54
  gave
• 29:54
  all
• 29:55
  of
• 29:55
  us,
• 29:55
  you
• 29:55
  know,
• 29:56
  and
• 29:56
  then,
• 29:56
  of
• 29:56
  course,
• 29:56
  it
• 29:56
  all
• 29:56
  fell
• 29:57
  apart.
• 29:57
  But
• 29:57
  I
• 29:58
  remember
• 29:58
  seeing
• 29:59
  him
• 29:59
  cheering
• 30:00
  in
• 30:01
  a
• 30:01
  way
• 30:01
  that
• 30:01
  I've
• 30:01
  never
• 30:01
  seen
• 30:02
  him
• 30:02
  kind
• 30:02
  of
• 30:02
  emote.
• 30:03
  And
• 30:03
  I
• 30:04
  was
• 30:04
  just
• 30:04
  like,
• 30:04
  we're
• 30:05
  going
• 30:05
  to
• 30:05
  win
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  World
• 30:05
  Series.
• 30:06
  Of
• 30:06
  course,
• 30:06
  that's
• 30:07
  really
• 30:07
  important.
• 30:07
  It
• 30:08
  was
• 30:08
  really
• 30:08
  important
• 30:08
  to
• 30:08
  him.
• 30:09
  Reed,
• 30:10
  his
• 30:10
  oldest
• 30:10
  son,
• 30:11
  was
• 30:11
  telling
• 30:11
  me
• 30:11
  that
• 30:11
  after
• 30:12
  one
• 30:12
  of
• 30:12
  those
• 30:12
  World
• 30:12
  Series,
• 30:13
  I
• 30:13
  think
• 30:13
  was
• 30:13
  that
• 30:14
  certainly
• 30:14
  that
• 30:14
  one
• 30:15
  down
• 30:15
  to
• 30:15
  the
• 30:16
  last
• 30:16
  strike,
• 30:16
  you
• 30:16
  know,
• 30:18
  the
• 30:18
  family
• 30:19
  went
• 30:19
  to
• 30:19
  Mexico
• 30:20
  for
• 30:20
  a
• 30:20
  little
• 30:20
  vacation.
• 30:21
  He
• 30:21
  said
• 30:21
  it
• 30:21
  was
• 30:21
  miserable.
• 30:22
  It
• 30:23
  was
• 30:23
  like
• 30:23
  the
• 30:23
  worst
• 30:24
  family
• 30:24
  vacation
• 30:25
  ever.
• 30:25
  Oh,
• 30:25
  God.
• 30:26
  What's.
• 30:26
  That's
• 30:27
  how
• 30:27
  it
• 30:27
  was
• 30:27
  for
• 30:27
  all
• 30:27
  of
• 30:28
  us
• 30:28
  that
• 30:28
  whole
• 30:28
  Christmas
• 30:29
  season,
• 30:29
  Thanksgiving,
• 30:30
  Christmas
• 30:30
  season.
• 30:33
  I
• 30:33
  do
• 30:33
  want
• 30:34
  to.
• 30:34
  I.
• 30:35
  We're
• 30:35
  talking
• 30:35
  about
• 30:36
  Nolan
• 30:36
  and
• 30:36
  what
• 30:36
  people
• 30:37
  remember
• 30:37
  and
• 30:37
  what
• 30:37
  we
• 30:37
  believe.
• 30:38
  You
• 30:38
  know,
• 30:38
  one
• 30:39
  of
• 30:39
  the
• 30:39
  chapters
• 30:39
  that
• 30:39
  I
• 30:40
  was
• 30:40
  super
• 30:40
  Excited
• 30:41
  to
• 30:41
  dive
• 30:42
  into.
• 30:43
  It's
• 30:43
  a
• 30:44
  cliche
• 30:44
  at
• 30:44
  this
• 30:45
  point,
• 30:45
  but
• 30:45
  it's
• 30:45
  Robin
• 30:46
  Ventura.
• 30:46
  You
• 30:46
  know,
• 30:46
  it's
• 30:47
  coming.
• 30:47
  You
• 30:47
  know,
• 30:47
  people
• 30:48
  when
• 30:48
  they
• 30:48
  talk
• 30:48
  to
• 30:48
  you
• 30:48
  are
• 30:49
  going
• 30:49
  to
• 30:49
  ask
• 30:49
  you
• 30:49
  about
• 30:49
  the
• 30:50
  Robin
• 30:50
  Ventura
• 30:52
  chapter
• 30:53
  and
• 30:54
  I,
• 30:54
  I'm
• 30:55
  going
• 30:55
  to
• 30:55
  read
• 30:55
  a
• 30:55
  little
• 30:56
  bit
• 30:56
  of
• 30:56
  you
• 30:56
  back
• 30:56
  to
• 30:57
  you,
• 30:57
  if
• 30:57
  that's
• 30:57
  okay.
• 30:58
  This
• 30:58
  was
• 30:59
  the
• 30:59
  hardest
• 30:59
  I
• 30:59
  laughed
• 31:00
  in
• 31:00
  the
• 31:00
  book.
• 31:01
  And
• 31:01
  it's
• 31:01
  when
• 31:01
  Ventura
• 31:02
  decided
• 31:02
  that
• 31:03
  he
• 31:03
  was
• 31:03
  going
• 31:03
  to
• 31:03
  charge
• 31:04
  and
• 31:04
  you
• 31:04
  said
• 31:05
  he,
• 31:05
  meaning
• 31:05
  Ventura,
• 31:06
  came
• 31:07
  in
• 31:07
  about
• 31:08
  the
• 31:08
  height
• 31:08
  of
• 31:08
  a
• 31:09
  calf.
• 31:09
  An
• 31:10
  unfortunate
• 31:10
  choice
• 31:10
  when
• 31:11
  attacking
• 31:11
  an
• 31:11
  old
• 31:12
  time
• 31:12
  rancher.
• 31:13
  Yeah,
• 31:14
  I
• 31:14
  thought
• 31:14
  that
• 31:14
  was
• 31:15
  awesome
• 31:15
  because
• 31:16
  that's
• 31:16
  literally
• 31:16
  what
• 31:16
  happened.
• 31:17
  He
• 31:17
  just,
• 31:17
  he
• 31:18
  just
• 31:18
  hog
• 31:18
  tied
• 31:18
  him
• 31:19
  and
• 31:19
  just
• 31:19
  starts
• 31:20
  beating
• 31:20
  on
• 31:20
  him.
• 31:21
  I
• 31:21
  really
• 31:22
  wanted
• 31:22
  to
• 31:22
  come
• 31:22
  into
• 31:22
  that
• 31:23
  chapter
• 31:23
  with
• 31:23
  some.
• 31:23
  Something
• 31:24
  new
• 31:24
  and
• 31:24
  I
• 31:24
  thought
• 31:24
  that
• 31:25
  the
• 31:27
  sort
• 31:27
  of
• 31:27
  the
• 31:28
  make
• 31:29
  amends
• 31:29
  thing
• 31:31
  in
• 31:31
  almost
• 31:32
  20
• 31:32
  years
• 31:32
  later.
• 31:33
  Yeah,
• 31:34
  right.
• 31:34
  Was
• 31:34
  sort
• 31:34
  of
• 31:34
  the
• 31:35
  important
• 31:35
  one.
• 31:35
  Nolan
• 31:35
  was
• 31:35
  the
• 31:36
  president
• 31:36
  and
• 31:36
  Robin
• 31:38
  managing
• 31:38
  his
• 31:38
  very
• 31:39
  first
• 31:39
  game
• 31:40
  with
• 31:41
  the
• 31:41
  White
• 31:41
  Sox
• 31:41
  came
• 31:42
  into
• 31:42
  Texas
• 31:43
  and
• 31:43
  Nolan
• 31:44
  felt
• 31:44
  so
• 31:44
  strongly
• 31:45
  about
• 31:45
  it,
• 31:45
  he
• 31:45
  had
• 31:45
  to
• 31:45
  go
• 31:45
  down
• 31:46
  and
• 31:46
  visit
• 31:46
  him.
• 31:46
  And
• 31:48
  yeah,
• 31:49
  you
• 31:49
  know,
• 31:49
  I
• 31:50
  watched
• 31:50
  that
• 31:50
  tape
• 31:51
  back
• 31:51
  over
• 31:51
  and
• 31:52
  over
• 31:52
  again.
• 31:53
  And
• 31:53
  of
• 31:53
  course,
• 31:53
  you
• 31:54
  know,
• 31:54
  you
• 31:54
  can't
• 31:54
  walk
• 31:54
  into
• 31:55
  a
• 31:55
  sports
• 31:55
  bar
• 31:56
  in
• 31:56
  anywhere
• 31:56
  in
• 31:57
  Texas
• 31:57
  and
• 31:57
  not
• 31:57
  see
• 31:57
  a
• 31:58
  picture
• 31:59
  of
• 31:59
  that
• 31:59
  whole
• 31:59
  thing.
• 32:00
  And
• 32:01
  you
• 32:01
  see
• 32:01
  Robin
• 32:02
  hesitate
• 32:02
  coming
• 32:03
  out
• 32:03
  of
• 32:03
  the
• 32:03
  box
• 32:05
  and
• 32:05
  then
• 32:05
  hesitate
• 32:06
  once
• 32:06
  he
• 32:06
  got
• 32:07
  to
• 32:07
  the
• 32:07
  mound.
• 32:08
  And
• 32:08
  even
• 32:08
  in.
• 32:09
  I
• 32:09
  remember
• 32:09
  thinking
• 32:10
  in
• 32:10
  real
• 32:10
  time,
• 32:10
  it
• 32:11
  was
• 32:11
  like,
• 32:11
  oh,
• 32:11
  no,
• 32:12
  no,
• 32:12
  no,
• 32:13
  this
• 32:13
  is
• 32:14
  only
• 32:15
  bad
• 32:15
  things
• 32:15
  can
• 32:15
  happen
• 32:16
  here.
• 32:17
  Yeah,
• 32:17
  it's
• 32:17
  no
• 32:17
  win.
• 32:18
  But
• 32:20
  I
• 32:20
  thought
• 32:20
  it
• 32:20
  was
• 32:20
  really
• 32:20
  interesting
• 32:21
  that
• 32:21
  Nolan
• 32:21
  felt
• 32:21
  strongly
• 32:22
  enough
• 32:22
  about
• 32:22
  it
• 32:22
  20
• 32:23
  years
• 32:23
  later
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  go
• 32:23
  down
• 32:24
  and
• 32:24
  make
• 32:24
  sure
• 32:24
  that
• 32:24
  he
• 32:25
  knew
• 32:25
  that
• 32:25
  there
• 32:25
  were
• 32:26
  no
• 32:26
  hard
• 32:26
  feelings.
• 32:27
  I
• 32:27
  mean,
• 32:27
  why
• 32:28
  would
• 32:28
  there
• 32:28
  be.
• 32:28
  Beat
• 32:29
  the
• 32:29
  crap
• 32:29
  out
• 32:29
  of
• 32:29
  the
• 32:29
  guy.
• 32:30
  But
• 32:30
  I
• 32:31
  did
• 32:31
  feel
• 32:31
  I
• 32:31
  wanted
• 32:32
  to
• 32:32
  give
• 32:32
  a
• 32:32
  little
• 32:32
  empathy
• 32:33
  to.
• 32:34
  To
• 32:35
  Robin
• 32:35
  as
• 32:35
  well.
• 32:36
  I
• 32:36
  mean,
• 32:36
  this
• 32:36
  is
• 32:36
  a
• 32:37
  really
• 32:37
  elegant,
• 32:38
  certainly
• 32:38
  hall
• 32:38
  of.
• 32:39
  Very
• 32:39
  good
• 32:39
  player.
• 32:40
  Yeah.
• 32:42
  And
• 32:43
  it
• 32:44
  almost
• 32:44
  felt.
• 32:44
  It
• 32:44
  hurts
• 32:45
  me
• 32:45
  a
• 32:45
  little
• 32:45
  bit.
• 32:46
  And
• 32:46
  I'd
• 32:46
  gotten
• 32:46
  to
• 32:47
  know
• 32:47
  Robin
• 32:47
  a
• 32:47
  little
• 32:47
  bit
• 32:47
  over
• 32:48
  the
• 32:48
  years.
• 32:48
  It
• 32:49
  hurt
• 32:49
  me
• 32:49
  a
• 32:49
  little
• 32:49
  bit
• 32:50
  that
• 32:50
  the
• 32:50
  one
• 32:50
  thing
• 32:50
  whenever
• 32:50
  you
• 32:51
  bring
• 32:51
  up
• 32:51
  Robin
• 32:51
  Ventura
• 32:52
  is
• 32:52
  like
• 32:52
  got
• 32:52
  his
• 32:52
  ass
• 32:52
  kicked.
• 32:53
  You're
• 32:53
  like,
• 32:54
  well,
• 32:54
  yeah,
• 32:54
  but
• 32:55
  there
• 32:55
  was
• 32:55
  more
• 32:55
  to
• 32:55
  him.
• 32:56
  Yeah.
• 32:56
  And
• 32:57
  I
• 32:57
  think
• 32:57
  Nolan
• 32:57
  recognized
• 32:58
  that
• 32:58
  as
• 32:58
  well.
• 32:58
  Of
• 32:58
  course.
• 32:59
  Well,
• 32:59
  you
• 32:59
  tell
• 32:59
  the
• 33:00
  story
• 33:00
  in
• 33:00
  the
• 33:00
  book
• 33:00
  of,
• 33:01
  of
• 33:01
  Ventura
• 33:01
  being
• 33:02
  around,
• 33:02
  I
• 33:03
  think
• 33:03
  some
• 33:03
  ex
• 33:03
  players
• 33:04
  and
• 33:05
  basically
• 33:05
  they,
• 33:06
  they
• 33:06
  look
• 33:06
  at
• 33:07
  him.
• 33:07
  I'm
• 33:07
  sure
• 33:07
  they've
• 33:07
  had
• 33:08
  a
• 33:08
  few
• 33:08
  drinks
• 33:09
  and
• 33:09
  they
• 33:09
  look
• 33:09
  at
• 33:10
  him
• 33:10
  and
• 33:10
  go
• 33:10
  tell
• 33:10
  us
• 33:10
  a
• 33:11
  story.
• 33:11
  And
• 33:11
  he
• 33:12
  kind
• 33:12
  of.
• 33:12
  Not
• 33:13
  necessarily
• 33:13
  like
• 33:13
  Bill
• 33:13
  Buckner
• 33:14
  did
• 33:14
  in
• 33:14
  the
• 33:14
  latter
• 33:15
  years,
• 33:15
  but
• 33:16
  he
• 33:16
  really.
• 33:16
  You
• 33:17
  got
• 33:17
  a
• 33:17
  sense
• 33:17
  that
• 33:17
  he
• 33:17
  really,
• 33:18
  he
• 33:19
  kind
• 33:19
  of
• 33:19
  enjoys
• 33:20
  a
• 33:21
  little
• 33:21
  bit.
• 33:21
  Now,
• 33:22
  I
• 33:22
  know
• 33:22
  it
• 33:22
  probably
• 33:22
  still
• 33:22
  bothers
• 33:23
  him,
• 33:23
  but
• 33:23
  he
• 33:23
  enjoys
• 33:24
  the,
• 33:25
  the
• 33:25
  ability
• 33:26
  to
• 33:26
  entertain
• 33:27
  others
• 33:27
  with
• 33:27
  the
• 33:28
  story
• 33:28
  that,
• 33:28
  you
• 33:28
  know,
• 33:29
  his,
• 33:29
  his
• 33:29
  place
• 33:29
  in
• 33:30
  history.
• 33:30
  Like
• 33:31
  you
• 33:31
  said,
• 33:31
  a
• 33:31
  very
• 33:31
  good,
• 33:32
  very,
• 33:32
  very
• 33:32
  good
• 33:32
  ballplayer.
• 33:33
  But
• 33:34
  this
• 33:34
  is,
• 33:34
  he
• 33:34
  kind
• 33:34
  of
• 33:35
  knows
• 33:35
  this
• 33:35
  is
• 33:35
  what
• 33:35
  he's
• 33:35
  going
• 33:36
  to
• 33:36
  be
• 33:36
  remembered
• 33:36
  for,
• 33:36
  in
• 33:36
  a
• 33:37
  sense.
• 33:37
  Yeah,
• 33:38
  I
• 33:38
  think
• 33:38
  he's
• 33:38
  comfortable
• 33:39
  with
• 33:39
  who
• 33:39
  he
• 33:39
  was
• 33:40
  and
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  kind
• 33:40
  of
• 33:40
  player
• 33:40
  he
• 33:41
  was
• 33:41
  and
• 33:41
  what
• 33:41
  he,
• 33:42
  what
• 33:42
  he
• 33:42
  contributed
• 33:43
  on
• 33:43
  the
• 33:43
  field
• 33:43
  and
• 33:44
  the
• 33:44
  kind
• 33:44
  of
• 33:44
  man
• 33:44
  he
• 33:45
  is
• 33:45
  and,
• 33:46
  and
• 33:46
  all
• 33:46
  that.
• 33:46
  I,
• 33:47
  I,
• 33:47
  I,
• 33:47
  I
• 33:47
  think
• 33:48
  probably
• 33:48
  there's
• 33:48
  a
• 33:48
  little
• 33:49
  twinge
• 33:49
  in
• 33:49
  there
• 33:49
  every
• 33:50
  time
• 33:50
  someone
• 33:50
  brings
• 33:50
  it
• 33:51
  up.
• 33:51
  It's
• 33:51
  like,
• 33:51
  you
• 33:51
  know,
• 33:53
  and
• 33:53
  it's
• 33:53
  so
• 33:53
  different,
• 33:54
  right?
• 33:54
  Because,
• 33:54
  I
• 33:54
  mean,
• 33:55
  had
• 33:55
  he
• 33:55
  charged
• 33:56
  Charlie
• 33:56
  Huff
• 33:57
  or
• 33:57
  whatever,
• 33:58
  and
• 33:58
  let's
• 33:58
  say
• 33:58
  even
• 33:59
  Charlie
• 33:59
  Huff
• 33:59
  whips
• 34:00
  his
• 34:00
  ass,
• 34:01
  then
• 34:02
  it's
• 34:02
  like,
• 34:02
  you're
• 34:03
  never
• 34:03
  going
• 34:03
  to
• 34:03
  get
• 34:03
  over
• 34:04
  that.
• 34:04
  But
• 34:04
  a
• 34:05
  legend,
• 34:05
  the
• 34:05
  cowboy,
• 34:06
  the
• 34:06
  man
• 34:07
  beat
• 34:07
  your
• 34:07
  ass,
• 34:08
  even
• 34:08
  at
• 34:08
  that
• 34:08
  older
• 34:09
  age
• 34:09
  and
• 34:09
  everything.
• 34:09
  I
• 34:10
  mean,
• 34:10
  it
• 34:10
  was
• 34:10
  almost
• 34:11
  like
• 34:11
  you
• 34:11
  said,
• 34:11
  Tim,
• 34:11
  the
• 34:12
  second
• 34:12
  he
• 34:12
  starts
• 34:13
  to
• 34:13
  go,
• 34:13
  you
• 34:13
  know,
• 34:14
  enchant
• 34:14
  towards
• 34:15
  the
• 34:15
  mound,
• 34:15
  I
• 34:16
  remember
• 34:16
  having
• 34:16
  that
• 34:16
  same
• 34:17
  thought
• 34:17
  of
• 34:17
  just
• 34:18
  like,
• 34:18
  this
• 34:19
  can't
• 34:19
  go
• 34:19
  well,
• 34:19
  you
• 34:20
  know,
• 34:20
  and,
• 34:20
  and,
• 34:20
  and
• 34:21
  watching
• 34:21
  it
• 34:21
  over
• 34:21
  and
• 34:22
  over.
• 34:22
  I
• 34:22
  have
• 34:22
  empathy
• 34:23
  for
• 34:23
  Robin
• 34:24
  in
• 34:24
  that
• 34:24
  moment
• 34:25
  because
• 34:25
  I
• 34:25
  do
• 34:26
  think,
• 34:26
  had
• 34:26
  he
• 34:26
  gotten
• 34:27
  out
• 34:27
  there
• 34:27
  and
• 34:27
  gotten
• 34:27
  lucky
• 34:28
  and
• 34:28
  landed
• 34:29
  a
• 34:29
  first
• 34:29
  shot,
• 34:30
  I
• 34:30
  mean,
• 34:30
  it's
• 34:30
  kind
• 34:31
  of
• 34:31
  the,
• 34:31
  it's,
• 34:31
  it's
• 34:32
  worse
• 34:32
  than
• 34:32
  Pedro
• 34:33
  throwing
• 34:33
  Don
• 34:34
  Zimmer
• 34:34
  to
• 34:34
  the
• 34:34
  ground.
• 34:35
  It's
• 34:35
  worse
• 34:35
  than,
• 34:35
  I
• 34:36
  mean,
• 34:36
  it's,
• 34:36
  it,
• 34:36
  it
• 34:37
  doesn't
• 34:37
  work
• 34:37
  for
• 34:37
  you
• 34:37
  either
• 34:38
  way.
• 34:38
  You
• 34:38
  get
• 34:38
  lucky
• 34:39
  and
• 34:39
  win,
• 34:39
  you're,
• 34:40
  you're,
• 34:40
  you're
• 34:40
  losing.
• 34:41
  If
• 34:41
  you
• 34:42
  get
• 34:42
  your
• 34:42
  butt
• 34:42
  kicked
• 34:43
  as
• 34:43
  you
• 34:43
  did,
• 34:43
  you
• 34:44
  lose.
• 34:44
  But
• 34:44
  at
• 34:44
  least
• 34:44
  now
• 34:45
  he
• 34:45
  gets
• 34:45
  to
• 34:46
  kind
• 34:46
  of
• 34:46
  revisit
• 34:47
  it
• 34:47
  with
• 34:47
  like,
• 34:47
  hey,
• 34:48
  the
• 34:48
  most
• 34:48
  badass
• 34:49
  of
• 34:49
  all
• 34:49
  badasses
• 34:50
  in
• 34:50
  baseball
• 34:50
  beat
• 34:51
  me
• 34:51
  up.
• 34:51
  I
• 34:52
  probably
• 34:52
  should
• 34:52
  have
• 34:52
  seen
• 34:52
  it
• 34:53
  coming,
• 34:53
  but
• 34:54
  I
• 34:54
  don't
• 34:54
  know,
• 34:54
  it
• 34:54
  was
• 34:54
  sort.
• 34:55
  Of
• 34:55
  a
• 34:55
  beautiful
• 34:56
  way
• 34:56
  to
• 34:56
  go
• 34:56
  out,
• 34:57
  right?
• 34:57
  I
• 34:57
  mean,
• 34:57
  the
• 34:57
  way
• 34:57
  he
• 34:58
  actually
• 34:58
  went
• 34:58
  out
• 34:59
  on
• 34:59
  that
• 34:59
  mound
• 34:59
  in
• 35:00
  Seattle
• 35:00
  was
• 35:00
  a
• 35:00
  little
• 35:01
  rough.
• 35:04
  But
• 35:04
  I
• 35:04
  think
• 35:05
  how
• 35:05
  people
• 35:05
  remember
• 35:06
  him
• 35:06
  going
• 35:06
  out
• 35:07
  is
• 35:08
  whipping
• 35:08
  this
• 35:08
  young
• 35:09
  buck,
• 35:09
  you
• 35:10
  know,
• 35:10
  out
• 35:10
  in
• 35:10
  front
• 35:10
  of
• 35:11
  tens
• 35:11
  of
• 35:11
  thousands
• 35:12
  of
• 35:12
  people,
• 35:12
  and
• 35:13
  it
• 35:13
  lives
• 35:13
  forever.
• 35:14
  You
• 35:14
  know,
• 35:14
  it's,
• 35:15
  again,
• 35:15
  it's,
• 35:16
  you
• 35:17
  know,
• 35:17
  there's
• 35:17
  not
• 35:17
  a
• 35:17
  bar
• 35:17
  restaurant
• 35:18
  in
• 35:18
  Texas.
• 35:18
  You
• 35:19
  walk
• 35:19
  into,
• 35:19
  you
• 35:19
  don't
• 35:20
  see
• 35:20
  a.
• 35:20
  Photo,
• 35:20
  and
• 35:21
  there's
• 35:21
  so
• 35:21
  many
• 35:22
  moments
• 35:22
  like
• 35:22
  that.
• 35:23
  My
• 35:23
  favorite
• 35:23
  footnote,
• 35:24
  just,
• 35:24
  just,
• 35:25
  I'm
• 35:25
  sorry,
• 35:25
  Scott.
• 35:25
  One
• 35:25
  of
• 35:26
  my
• 35:26
  favorite
• 35:26
  footnote
• 35:26
  is,
• 35:27
  is
• 35:27
  that
• 35:27
  Nolan
• 35:27
  didn't
• 35:27
  get
• 35:28
  ejected.
• 35:28
  He
• 35:28
  stayed
• 35:29
  in
• 35:29
  the
• 35:29
  game
• 35:29
  and
• 35:29
  retired
• 35:30
  12
• 35:30
  of
• 35:30
  the
• 35:31
  next
• 35:31
  13
• 35:31
  batters.
• 35:31
  Yeah.
• 35:32
  Pitched
• 35:32
  the
• 35:32
  next
• 35:32
  four
• 35:33
  innings.
• 35:33
  Buck
• 35:33
  buttoned
• 35:34
  up
• 35:34
  his
• 35:34
  shirt
• 35:34
  and.
• 35:35
  All
• 35:35
  right,
• 35:35
  who's
• 35:36
  next?
• 35:36
  I
• 35:36
  was
• 35:36
  just
• 35:36
  like,
• 35:37
  we
• 35:37
  should
• 35:37
  go
• 35:37
  back
• 35:37
  to
• 35:37
  that.
• 35:38
  Whoever
• 35:38
  starts
• 35:38
  the
• 35:38
  fight
• 35:38
  has
• 35:39
  to
• 35:39
  leave,
• 35:39
  but
• 35:39
  that
• 35:39
  other
• 35:40
  guy
• 35:40
  gets
• 35:40
  to
• 35:40
  stay.
• 35:40
  But
• 35:41
  he.
• 35:43
  We
• 35:44
  have
• 35:44
  in
• 35:44
  Dallas
• 35:45
  now,
• 35:45
  every
• 35:45
  two
• 35:46
  months,
• 35:46
  we
• 35:46
  have
• 35:47
  arguably
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  biggest
• 35:48
  card
• 35:49
  show
• 35:49
  in
• 35:50
  America.
• 35:51
  Every
• 35:51
  two
• 35:51
  months
• 35:51
  is
• 35:52
  the
• 35:52
  Dallas
• 35:52
  card
• 35:52
  show,
• 35:53
  and
• 35:53
  people
• 35:53
  from
• 35:53
  all
• 35:53
  over
• 35:53
  the
• 35:54
  country
• 35:54
  come.
• 35:54
  But
• 35:55
  if
• 35:55
  you
• 35:55
  walk
• 35:55
  through,
• 35:56
  it
• 35:57
  is
• 35:57
  the
• 35:58
  Bo
• 35:58
  Jackson
• 35:59
  liner
• 35:59
  back,
• 36:00
  bloody
• 36:00
  lip,
• 36:00
  autographed
• 36:01
  picture.
• 36:02
  And
• 36:02
  then
• 36:02
  it's
• 36:02
  the.
• 36:03
  It's
• 36:03
  the.
• 36:03
  It's
• 36:03
  the.
• 36:04
  No.
• 36:04
  And.
• 36:04
  And
• 36:04
  people
• 36:05
  are
• 36:05
  still
• 36:05
  hunting
• 36:06
  that
• 36:06
  Ventura
• 36:06
  picture
• 36:07
  to
• 36:07
  this
• 36:07
  day.
• 36:08
  And
• 36:08
  it
• 36:08
  is
• 36:08
  like
• 36:09
  a.
• 36:09
  They
• 36:09
  will
• 36:09
  walk
• 36:10
  by,
• 36:10
  see
• 36:10
  it,
• 36:10
  and
• 36:11
  go,
• 36:11
  I
• 36:11
  want
• 36:11
  that
• 36:11
  on
• 36:11
  my
• 36:12
  wall.
• 36:12
  And
• 36:12
  it's.
• 36:12
  You
• 36:13
  know,
• 36:13
  it's
• 36:14
  the.
• 36:15
  In.
• 36:15
  The
• 36:15
  endurance
• 36:16
  of
• 36:16
  it
• 36:16
  is
• 36:16
  still
• 36:17
  really
• 36:17
  surprising
• 36:18
  to
• 36:18
  me
• 36:18
  to
• 36:18
  this
• 36:18
  day.
• 36:19
  I
• 36:19
  love
• 36:19
  the
• 36:19
  Rangers
• 36:20
  giveaway.
• 36:20
  What?
• 36:20
  At
• 36:21
  the
• 36:21
  end
• 36:21
  of
• 36:21
  this
• 36:21
  month,
• 36:21
  I
• 36:21
  think
• 36:22
  they're
• 36:22
  giving
• 36:22
  away
• 36:22
  the
• 36:22
  bloody
• 36:23
  jersey.
• 36:23
  Yeah.
• 36:25
  That's
• 36:25
  awesome.
• 36:26
  Whoever
• 36:26
  thought
• 36:26
  of
• 36:26
  that?
• 36:27
  Oh,
• 36:27
  to
• 36:27
  get
• 36:28
  a
• 36:28
  raise.
• 36:29
  But
• 36:30
  I
• 36:30
  know
• 36:30
  Scott
• 36:31
  had
• 36:31
  some
• 36:31
  90
• 36:32
  specific
• 36:32
  questions
• 36:33
  he
• 36:33
  wanted
• 36:33
  to
• 36:33
  throw
• 36:33
  at
• 36:34
  you.
• 36:34
  Yeah.
• 36:35
  Wheelhouse
• 36:35
  this
• 36:35
  My
• 36:36
  prime.
• 36:36
  Yeah,
• 36:36
  yeah,
• 36:37
  yeah.
• 36:37
  That's
• 36:37
  what
• 36:38
  we're
• 36:38
  looking
• 36:38
  for.
• 36:38
  Before
• 36:39
  I
• 36:39
  jump
• 36:39
  into
• 36:39
  that,
• 36:40
  I
• 36:40
  do
• 36:40
  want
• 36:40
  to
• 36:40
  share
• 36:40
  one
• 36:41
  thing
• 36:41
  with
• 36:41
  you,
• 36:41
  Tim.
• 36:42
  So
• 36:42
  my
• 36:42
  dad
• 36:43
  is
• 36:43
  87
• 36:44
  years
• 36:44
  old.
• 36:45
  He
• 36:45
  was.
• 36:46
  We
• 36:46
  watched
• 36:47
  all
• 36:47
  the
• 36:47
  sports
• 36:47
  together,
• 36:48
  all
• 36:48
  in
• 36:48
  the
• 36:49
  early
• 36:49
  90s.
• 36:49
  I
• 36:49
  was
• 36:50
  in
• 36:50
  high
• 36:50
  school
• 36:50
  and
• 36:50
  into
• 36:51
  college,
• 36:51
  and
• 36:51
  every
• 36:52
  big
• 36:52
  moment
• 36:52
  Nolan
• 36:53
  had
• 36:53
  in
• 36:53
  a
• 36:53
  Rangers
• 36:54
  uniform,
• 36:54
  I
• 36:54
  was
• 36:54
  sitting
• 36:55
  with
• 36:55
  him
• 36:55
  watching,
• 36:56
  and
• 36:56
  it
• 36:56
  was
• 36:56
  appointment
• 36:57
  viewing.
• 36:57
  He
• 36:57
  was
• 36:58
  similar
• 36:58
  to
• 36:58
  me,
• 36:58
  did
• 36:59
  not
• 36:59
  like
• 36:59
  the
• 36:59
  Astros.
• 37:00
  He
• 37:00
  grew
• 37:00
  up
• 37:01
  in
• 37:01
  another
• 37:01
  town
• 37:02
  and
• 37:02
  kind
• 37:03
  of
• 37:03
  influenced
• 37:03
  my
• 37:03
  fandom.
• 37:04
  And
• 37:04
  I'm
• 37:04
  going
• 37:04
  to
• 37:04
  come
• 37:04
  back
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  that
• 37:05
  here
• 37:05
  in
• 37:05
  a
• 37:05
  second
• 37:06
  because
• 37:06
  you
• 37:06
  had
• 37:07
  some
• 37:07
  time
• 37:07
  in
• 37:07
  that
• 37:07
  town
• 37:07
  as
• 37:08
  well.
• 37:08
  But
• 37:09
  the.
• 37:11
  When
• 37:11
  I
• 37:11
  was
• 37:11
  telling
• 37:12
  him,
• 37:12
  I
• 37:13
  called
• 37:13
  him
• 37:13
  and
• 37:14
  we
• 37:14
  talked
• 37:14
  a
• 37:14
  little
• 37:15
  bit
• 37:15
  after
• 37:15
  we
• 37:16
  interviewed
• 37:16
  Chipnok,
• 37:17
  and
• 37:17
  he
• 37:17
  was
• 37:17
  really,
• 37:18
  you
• 37:18
  know,
• 37:19
  amazed
• 37:19
  by
• 37:19
  that
• 37:20
  and
• 37:20
  the
• 37:21
  stories
• 37:21
  from
• 37:21
  Phil
• 37:21
  and
• 37:22
  Rory.
• 37:23
  But
• 37:23
  I
• 37:23
  told
• 37:23
  him,
• 37:23
  hey,
• 37:24
  we're
• 37:24
  interviewing
• 37:25
  Tim
• 37:25
  Brown.
• 37:25
  He
• 37:26
  wrote
• 37:26
  a
• 37:26
  book
• 37:26
  about
• 37:27
  Nolan
• 37:27
  Ryan.
• 37:28
  And
• 37:29
  he
• 37:29
  said,
• 37:31
  I
• 37:31
  think
• 37:31
  Larry
• 37:31
  McMurtry
• 37:32
  probably
• 37:32
  should
• 37:32
  have
• 37:33
  written
• 37:33
  that
• 37:33
  book.
• 37:34
  And
• 37:34
  that
• 37:34
  was
• 37:34
  the
• 37:35
  first
• 37:35
  time
• 37:35
  again.
• 37:36
  And
• 37:36
  I
• 37:36
  kind
• 37:36
  of
• 37:37
  read
• 37:37
  your
• 37:37
  book
• 37:38
  and
• 37:38
  had
• 37:38
  looked
• 37:39
  at
• 37:39
  it
• 37:39
  through
• 37:39
  that
• 37:39
  lens
• 37:40
  a
• 37:40
  little
• 37:40
  bit,
• 37:40
  and
• 37:41
  it
• 37:41
  was
• 37:41
  just
• 37:41
  like,
• 37:42
  this
• 37:42
  is
• 37:42
  almost
• 37:44
  fiction.
• 37:44
  I
• 37:45
  mean,
• 37:45
  it
• 37:45
  doesn't
• 37:45
  even
• 37:46
  feel
• 37:46
  like
• 37:48
  this
• 37:48
  really
• 37:48
  happened
• 37:49
  unless
• 37:49
  you
• 37:49
  did
• 37:49
  experience
• 37:50
  it
• 37:50
  like
• 37:50
  that.
• 37:51
  So
• 37:52
  I
• 37:52
  thought
• 37:52
  that
• 37:52
  was
• 37:52
  a
• 37:52
  neat
• 37:53
  little
• 37:53
  nod
• 37:54
  to
• 37:55
  the
• 37:55
  subject
• 37:55
  that
• 37:55
  you
• 37:56
  were
• 37:56
  tackling
• 37:56
  with
• 37:56
  this
• 37:57
  book
• 37:57
  and
• 37:57
  kind
• 37:57
  of
• 37:57
  what
• 37:58
  some
• 37:58
  of
• 37:58
  the
• 37:58
  old
• 37:58
  time
• 37:59
  Baseball
• 37:59
  fans
• 38:00
  like
• 38:00
  my
• 38:00
  dad
• 38:00
  think
• 38:01
  of
• 38:01
  it.
• 38:01
  Well,
• 38:02
  you
• 38:02
  can
• 38:02
  tell
• 38:02
  your
• 38:03
  dad
• 38:03
  I
• 38:03
  agree.
• 38:03
  Larry
• 38:04
  McMurtry
• 38:04
  should
• 38:04
  have
• 38:04
  written
• 38:05
  this
• 38:05
  book.
• 38:05
  Yeah,
• 38:06
  well.
• 38:06
  And
• 38:07
  I
• 38:07
  did
• 38:07
  a
• 38:07
  great
• 38:07
  job.
• 38:08
  And
• 38:08
  he.
• 38:08
  And
• 38:08
  he's
• 38:09
  already
• 38:09
  asked
• 38:10
  to
• 38:11
  get
• 38:11
  a
• 38:11
  cop
• 38:12
  or
• 38:12
  to
• 38:12
  get
• 38:12
  my.
• 38:13
  To
• 38:13
  steal
• 38:14
  your.
• 38:14
  Whenever
• 38:14
  I'm
• 38:15
  done.
• 38:15
  So
• 38:16
  I
• 38:16
  think
• 38:16
  he'll
• 38:16
  enjoy
• 38:17
  that,
• 38:17
  I'm
• 38:17
  sure.
• 38:17
  But
• 38:18
  a
• 38:18
  few
• 38:19
  things.
• 38:19
  Tell
• 38:19
  him
• 38:19
  not
• 38:19
  to
• 38:19
  hold
• 38:20
  me
• 38:20
  against
• 38:20
  the
• 38:20
  Larry
• 38:20
  McMurtry
• 38:21
  standard.
• 38:22
  I
• 38:22
  think
• 38:23
  he
• 38:23
  did
• 38:23
  an
• 38:23
  outstanding
• 38:24
  job.
• 38:24
  I'm
• 38:24
  sure
• 38:24
  he's
• 38:24
  going
• 38:25
  to
• 38:25
  love
• 38:25
  every
• 38:25
  second
• 38:25
  of
• 38:26
  it.
• 38:26
  All
• 38:27
  right,
• 38:27
  so
• 38:27
  real
• 38:27
  quick
• 38:27
  thinking
• 38:28
  about
• 38:28
  the
• 38:28
  90s.
• 38:29
  That's
• 38:29
  what
• 38:29
  our
• 38:29
  podcast
• 38:30
  is
• 38:30
  all
• 38:30
  about.
• 38:30
  We
• 38:30
  talked
• 38:31
  about
• 38:31
  a
• 38:31
  little
• 38:31
  bit
• 38:31
  about
• 38:31
  Nolan's
• 38:32
  time
• 38:32
  with
• 38:33
  the
• 38:33
  rangers
• 38:33
  in
• 38:33
  the
• 38:34
  90s,
• 38:34
  and
• 38:35
  you.
• 38:35
  You
• 38:35
  even
• 38:35
  already
• 38:36
  tackled
• 38:37
  one
• 38:37
  of
• 38:37
  the
• 38:37
  quick
• 38:37
  subjects
• 38:38
  I
• 38:38
  was
• 38:38
  going
• 38:38
  to
• 38:38
  talk
• 38:38
  about
• 38:38
  when
• 38:39
  you
• 38:39
  talked
• 38:39
  about
• 38:39
  Mount
• 38:40
  Rushmore
• 38:40
  of
• 38:40
  Texas,
• 38:42
  but
• 38:42
  I'd
• 38:43
  like
• 38:43
  to
• 38:43
  know
• 38:43
  your
• 38:43
  Mount
• 38:44
  Rushmore
• 38:44
  of
• 38:44
  just
• 38:45
  baseball
• 38:45
  players.
• 38:45
  You've
• 38:46
  covered
• 38:46
  baseball
• 38:46
  for
• 38:47
  a
• 38:47
  really
• 38:47
  long
• 38:47
  time.
• 38:47
  You.
• 38:48
  And
• 38:48
  I
• 38:48
  don't
• 38:48
  want
• 38:48
  to
• 38:48
  know
• 38:49
  your
• 38:49
  Mount
• 38:49
  Rushmore
• 38:50
  of
• 38:50
  greatest.
• 38:50
  I'm
• 38:51
  not
• 38:51
  looking
• 38:51
  for
• 38:51
  the
• 38:51
  Ruth
• 38:52
  Aarons
• 38:52
  here.
• 38:53
  I'm
• 38:53
  talking
• 38:53
  about
• 38:54
  who
• 38:54
  had
• 38:54
  the
• 38:54
  biggest
• 38:55
  impact
• 38:55
  on
• 38:56
  Tim
• 38:56
  Brown
• 38:56
  and
• 38:56
  the
• 38:57
  most
• 38:57
  memorable
• 38:58
  things
• 38:58
  that
• 38:58
  you
• 38:58
  have
• 38:59
  covered.
• 39:01
  Okay.
• 39:02
  The
• 39:02
  very
• 39:02
  first
• 39:02
  guy
• 39:03
  I
• 39:03
  think
• 39:03
  of
• 39:03
  is
• 39:03
  Jim
• 39:04
  Abbott.
• 39:05
  You
• 39:06
  know,
• 39:06
  he.
• 39:06
  He
• 39:07
  and
• 39:07
  I
• 39:07
  were
• 39:08
  basically
• 39:08
  rookies
• 39:09
  together.
• 39:09
  The
• 39:09
  first
• 39:09
  year
• 39:10
  I
• 39:10
  was
• 39:10
  covering
• 39:10
  Major
• 39:10
  League
• 39:11
  baseball
• 39:11
  was
• 39:11
  1989,
• 39:13
  and
• 39:13
  that
• 39:13
  was
• 39:13
  Jim's
• 39:13
  rookie
• 39:14
  year,
• 39:14
  and
• 39:14
  I
• 39:14
  was
• 39:14
  covering
• 39:15
  the
• 39:15
  Angels
• 39:17
  and
• 39:17
  watching
• 39:18
  him
• 39:19
  sort
• 39:20
  of
• 39:20
  navigate
• 39:21
  not
• 39:21
  just
• 39:22
  baseball
• 39:23
  straight
• 39:23
  off
• 39:23
  of
• 39:24
  a
• 39:24
  college
• 39:24
  campus,
• 39:26
  but
• 39:26
  the
• 39:27
  world,
• 39:29
  all
• 39:30
  the
• 39:30
  kids
• 39:31
  and
• 39:31
  the
• 39:31
  parents
• 39:32
  of
• 39:32
  the
• 39:32
  kids,
• 39:33
  and
• 39:33
  also
• 39:34
  standing
• 39:34
  on
• 39:34
  a
• 39:35
  mound
• 39:35
  and
• 39:36
  doing
• 39:36
  what
• 39:36
  he
• 39:36
  did,
• 39:37
  and
• 39:37
  then
• 39:38
  being
• 39:38
  just
• 39:39
  a
• 39:39
  genuinely
• 39:40
  kind,
• 39:42
  giving
• 39:43
  person
• 39:44
  really
• 39:45
  changed.
• 39:46
  You
• 39:46
  know,
• 39:46
  I
• 39:47
  remember
• 39:47
  finishing
• 39:48
  writing
• 39:48
  that
• 39:49
  book
• 39:49
  with
• 39:49
  Jim
• 39:50
  and
• 39:50
  thinking,
• 39:51
  you
• 39:52
  know,
• 39:52
  if
• 39:52
  this
• 39:52
  is
• 39:52
  the
• 39:53
  best
• 39:53
  thing
• 39:53
  I
• 39:53
  do
• 39:54
  in
• 39:54
  my
• 39:54
  life,
• 39:55
  I'm
• 39:55
  okay.
• 39:56
  Career
• 39:56
  wise,
• 39:57
  I'm
• 39:57
  okay
• 39:58
  with
• 39:58
  that
• 39:58
  because
• 39:59
  that's
• 39:59
  a
• 39:59
  story
• 40:00
  that.
• 40:00
  That
• 40:00
  really
• 40:01
  needed
• 40:01
  to
• 40:01
  be
• 40:01
  out
• 40:02
  there.
• 40:03
  And
• 40:03
  so
• 40:03
  I
• 40:04
  still,
• 40:05
  to
• 40:05
  this
• 40:05
  day,
• 40:05
  we
• 40:06
  talk
• 40:06
  all
• 40:06
  the
• 40:06
  time.
• 40:07
  When
• 40:07
  I
• 40:07
  was
• 40:07
  living
• 40:07
  in
• 40:07
  la,
• 40:08
  we
• 40:08
  would
• 40:08
  play
• 40:08
  golf
• 40:09
  few
• 40:09
  times
• 40:10
  a
• 40:10
  year.
• 40:12
  And
• 40:12
  he
• 40:13
  remains
• 40:14
  that
• 40:14
  guy.
• 40:14
  He
• 40:15
  raised
• 40:15
  two
• 40:16
  very
• 40:17
  bright,
• 40:18
  beautiful
• 40:19
  daughters
• 40:20
  and
• 40:22
  just
• 40:22
  continues
• 40:22
  to
• 40:23
  give.
• 40:23
  I
• 40:23
  don't
• 40:23
  know
• 40:23
  if
• 40:23
  you
• 40:24
  saw
• 40:24
  the
• 40:24
  documentary
• 40:25
  with
• 40:25
  Jim
• 40:26
  that's
• 40:26
  been
• 40:26
  out
• 40:26
  for
• 40:27
  going
• 40:27
  on
• 40:28
  a
• 40:28
  year
• 40:28
  now
• 40:28
  called
• 40:28
  Southpaw,
• 40:29
  but
• 40:29
  they
• 40:29
  did
• 40:30
  a
• 40:30
  wonderful
• 40:30
  job
• 40:30
  with
• 40:31
  that.
• 40:32
  And,
• 40:33
  you
• 40:33
  know,
• 40:33
  the
• 40:33
  impact
• 40:34
  he's
• 40:34
  had
• 40:34
  on
• 40:34
  that
• 40:35
  community.
• 40:37
  Will.
• 40:37
  Will.
• 40:38
  Will
• 40:38
  go
• 40:38
  on
• 40:38
  for
• 40:39
  generations.
• 40:39
  And
• 40:40
  I
• 40:40
  think
• 40:41
  so
• 40:42
  I'll
• 40:42
  start
• 40:42
  there.
• 40:45
  You
• 40:45
  know,
• 40:46
  I
• 40:46
  think
• 40:46
  it.
• 40:48
  It's
• 40:48
  hard
• 40:48
  not
• 40:49
  to
• 40:49
  spend
• 40:49
  A
• 40:49
  lot
• 40:49
  of
• 40:49
  time,
• 40:50
  you
• 40:50
  know,
• 40:50
  the
• 40:50
  Rick
• 40:50
  Ankiel
• 40:51
  thing.
• 40:51
  I
• 40:51
  hate
• 40:51
  to
• 40:51
  do
• 40:51
  all
• 40:51
  the
• 40:52
  book,
• 40:52
  the
• 40:52
  greatest
• 40:53
  hits
• 40:53
  of
• 40:53
  the
• 40:53
  book,
• 40:54
  but
• 40:55
  you
• 40:55
  spend
• 40:55
  so
• 40:55
  much
• 40:55
  time
• 40:56
  with
• 40:56
  a
• 40:56
  guy
• 40:57
  putting
• 40:58
  these
• 40:58
  things
• 40:58
  together.
• 40:59
  And
• 40:59
  I
• 40:59
  think
• 40:59
  that
• 41:00
  the,
• 41:01
  you
• 41:01
  know,
• 41:01
  the
• 41:01
  year
• 41:02
  that
• 41:02
  I
• 41:02
  spent
• 41:03
  putting,
• 41:03
  putting
• 41:03
  that
• 41:03
  book
• 41:03
  together
• 41:04
  and
• 41:05
  seeing
• 41:05
  how
• 41:05
  cathartic
• 41:06
  that
• 41:07
  experience
• 41:07
  was
• 41:08
  for
• 41:08
  Rick,
• 41:09
  you
• 41:10
  know,
• 41:10
  he
• 41:10
  had
• 41:10
  never,
• 41:11
  I
• 41:12
  don't
• 41:12
  think,
• 41:13
  opened
• 41:13
  up
• 41:14
  even
• 41:14
  to
• 41:14
  himself
• 41:15
  about
• 41:16
  what
• 41:16
  happened,
• 41:17
  what
• 41:17
  he
• 41:17
  experienced,
• 41:18
  the
• 41:18
  sort
• 41:18
  of
• 41:18
  things
• 41:18
  he
• 41:18
  was
• 41:19
  feeling,
• 41:20
  how
• 41:21
  difficult
• 41:21
  it
• 41:21
  was,
• 41:22
  the
• 41:23
  people
• 41:23
  who
• 41:23
  remained
• 41:24
  in
• 41:24
  his
• 41:24
  corner.
• 41:27
  I
• 41:27
  think
• 41:28
  to
• 41:28
  this
• 41:28
  day,
• 41:29
  I
• 41:29
  think
• 41:29
  that
• 41:30
  he
• 41:30
  is
• 41:31
  for
• 41:32
  that,
• 41:33
  not
• 41:33
  because
• 41:33
  I
• 41:33
  was
• 41:34
  part
• 41:34
  of
• 41:34
  it,
• 41:34
  but
• 41:34
  for
• 41:35
  that
• 41:35
  project
• 41:35
  is
• 41:36
  a
• 41:36
  better,
• 41:37
  a
• 41:37
  better
• 41:37
  man,
• 41:37
  a
• 41:38
  better
• 41:38
  husband,
• 41:38
  a
• 41:38
  better
• 41:39
  father
• 41:40
  because
• 41:40
  of
• 41:41
  that
• 41:41
  experience,
• 41:42
  because
• 41:42
  of
• 41:43
  finally
• 41:43
  sort
• 41:43
  of,
• 41:45
  for
• 41:45
  the
• 41:45
  very
• 41:46
  first
• 41:46
  time,
• 41:46
  really
• 41:47
  facing
• 41:47
  those
• 41:47
  demons
• 41:48
  again,
• 41:48
  going
• 41:49
  back
• 41:49
  and
• 41:49
  revisiting
• 41:50
  and
• 41:50
  saying,
• 41:50
  okay,
• 41:51
  come
• 41:52
  get
• 41:52
  me
• 41:52
  again
• 41:53
  after
• 41:53
  having
• 41:53
  that
• 41:54
  horrible
• 41:54
  experience.
• 41:55
  So
• 41:57
  I
• 41:57
  think,
• 41:58
  you
• 41:58
  know,
• 41:59
  he
• 41:59
  as
• 41:59
  well,
• 42:00
  sort
• 42:00
  of
• 42:00
  a
• 42:00
  special
• 42:01
  place
• 42:01
  in
• 42:01
  my
• 42:01
  heart.
• 42:03
  You
• 42:04
  know,
• 42:04
  I
• 42:04
  covered
• 42:06
  Chili
• 42:06
  Davis.
• 42:09
  Yes.
• 42:09
  I
• 42:10
  covered
• 42:10
  him
• 42:11
  in
• 42:11
  at
• 42:12
  least
• 42:12
  two
• 42:12
  different.
• 42:13
  I
• 42:13
  was.
• 42:13
  I
• 42:13
  was
• 42:13
  an
• 42:14
  angel
• 42:14
  beat
• 42:14
  writer
• 42:15
  when
• 42:15
  he
• 42:15
  was
• 42:15
  there.
• 42:15
  I
• 42:15
  was
• 42:16
  a
• 42:16
  Yankee
• 42:16
  beat
• 42:16
  writer
• 42:17
  when
• 42:17
  he
• 42:17
  was
• 42:17
  there.
• 42:19
  I
• 42:19
  seemed
• 42:19
  to
• 42:19
  bump
• 42:20
  into
• 42:20
  him
• 42:21
  in
• 42:21
  so
• 42:21
  many
• 42:21
  different
• 42:22
  places
• 42:23
  and.
• 42:23
  And
• 42:23
  I
• 42:23
  just
• 42:24
  grew
• 42:24
  to
• 42:24
  love
• 42:25
  Chili
• 42:25
  Davis.
• 42:25
  Yes.
• 42:26
  He's
• 42:26
  just
• 42:26
  such
• 42:26
  a
• 42:27
  down
• 42:27
  to
• 42:27
  earth
• 42:28
  guy.
• 42:30
  Funny,
• 42:32
  you
• 42:32
  know,
• 42:32
  and
• 42:33
  then
• 42:33
  of
• 42:33
  course,
• 42:33
  he
• 42:33
  was
• 42:33
  a
• 42:34
  hitting
• 42:34
  coach
• 42:34
  for
• 42:34
  a
• 42:34
  number
• 42:35
  of
• 42:35
  years.
• 42:36
  Another
• 42:36
  guy
• 42:36
  I
• 42:36
  try
• 42:37
  to
• 42:37
  stay
• 42:37
  in
• 42:37
  contact
• 42:38
  with
• 42:38
  just,
• 42:38
  just
• 42:39
  because
• 42:39
  he
• 42:39
  was.
• 42:40
  He
• 42:40
  was
• 42:40
  just
• 42:40
  a
• 42:40
  good.
• 42:41
  He's
• 42:41
  just
• 42:41
  a
• 42:41
  good
• 42:42
  dude,
• 42:42
  man.
• 42:42
  You
• 42:43
  know,
• 42:43
  and
• 42:44
  I
• 42:44
  came,
• 42:44
  I
• 42:45
  had
• 42:45
  such
• 42:45
  an
• 42:45
  interesting,
• 42:46
  like
• 42:46
  my
• 42:46
  career
• 42:47
  covered
• 42:47
  an
• 42:47
  interesting
• 42:48
  period
• 42:48
  where
• 42:48
  we
• 42:49
  went
• 42:49
  from
• 42:49
  basically
• 42:51
  almost
• 42:52
  typewriters
• 42:53
  to
• 42:54
  the
• 42:54
  Internet,
• 42:55
  you
• 42:55
  know,
• 42:56
  whatever
• 42:56
  that
• 42:57
  social
• 42:57
  media
• 42:58
  craze
• 42:59
  happened
• 43:01
  and
• 43:02
  it
• 43:02
  became
• 43:03
  harder
• 43:03
  and
• 43:03
  harder
• 43:04
  to
• 43:06
  create
• 43:06
  and
• 43:07
  maintain
• 43:07
  relationships
• 43:08
  with
• 43:08
  players
• 43:10
  because
• 43:10
  of
• 43:10
  that.
• 43:10
  It
• 43:11
  just
• 43:11
  got
• 43:11
  too
• 43:11
  crazy
• 43:12
  for
• 43:12
  them.
• 43:12
  There
• 43:12
  was
• 43:12
  too
• 43:13
  many
• 43:13
  people,
• 43:13
  they
• 43:14
  were
• 43:14
  getting
• 43:14
  bombarded.
• 43:15
  And
• 43:16
  so
• 43:16
  those
• 43:16
  early
• 43:16
  relationships
• 43:17
  you
• 43:18
  made
• 43:18
  that,
• 43:19
  you
• 43:19
  know,
• 43:19
  that
• 43:19
  are.
• 43:20
  Are
• 43:20
  close
• 43:20
  to
• 43:21
  impossible
• 43:21
  to
• 43:21
  do
• 43:22
  now
• 43:23
  you
• 43:24
  sort
• 43:24
  of
• 43:24
  value.
• 43:24
  And
• 43:24
  I'm
• 43:25
  trying
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  think
• 43:25
  of
• 43:25
  a
• 43:26
  fourth
• 43:26
  guy
• 43:27
  who.
• 43:30
  Let
• 43:30
  me
• 43:30
  come
• 43:30
  back
• 43:31
  to
• 43:31
  that.
• 43:31
  I'm
• 43:31
  gonna
• 43:31
  think
• 43:32
  about
• 43:32
  a
• 43:32
  fourth
• 43:32
  guy
• 43:33
  who,
• 43:33
  who
• 43:35
  sort
• 43:36
  of,
• 43:36
  you
• 43:36
  know,
• 43:36
  there's
• 43:37
  a
• 43:37
  couple
• 43:37
  guys
• 43:37
  that
• 43:37
  I
• 43:37
  still
• 43:38
  like
• 43:39
  and,
• 43:39
  and
• 43:39
  it's
• 43:39
  gonna
• 43:40
  be
• 43:40
  weird.
• 43:40
  Tommy
• 43:41
  Listella
• 43:41
  is
• 43:41
  a
• 43:41
  guy
• 43:42
  that
• 43:42
  I
• 43:42
  really
• 43:43
  like
• 43:43
  that
• 43:43
  I
• 43:43
  sort
• 43:43
  of
• 43:44
  stay
• 43:44
  in
• 43:44
  touch
• 43:44
  with.
• 43:44
  Joe
• 43:44
  Smith
• 43:45
  at
• 43:45
  Astro
• 43:46
  Reliever
• 43:47
  is
• 43:47
  a
• 43:47
  guy
• 43:47
  that
• 43:47
  I've
• 43:48
  really
• 43:48
  connected
• 43:48
  with.
• 43:49
  And
• 43:49
  usually
• 43:50
  it's
• 43:50
  stories,
• 43:50
  you
• 43:51
  know,
• 43:51
  you
• 43:51
  sit
• 43:51
  down
• 43:51
  with
• 43:51
  a
• 43:52
  guy
• 43:52
  and
• 43:52
  they
• 43:52
  tell
• 43:52
  a
• 43:52
  story.
• 43:54
  You
• 43:54
  know,
• 43:54
  Tommy
• 43:54
  Lella,
• 43:55
  who
• 43:55
  Had
• 43:55
  some,
• 43:56
  you
• 43:56
  know,
• 43:57
  emotional
• 43:57
  stuff
• 43:57
  that
• 43:58
  he.
• 43:58
  He
• 43:58
  had
• 43:58
  to
• 43:58
  handle.
• 43:59
  And
• 43:59
  he
• 43:59
  and
• 43:59
  I
• 44:00
  spent
• 44:00
  some
• 44:00
  time
• 44:00
  with
• 44:00
  that
• 44:01
  Joe
• 44:01
  Smith,
• 44:01
  whose
• 44:02
  mom
• 44:03
  had
• 44:03
  contracted
• 44:04
  and
• 44:04
  then
• 44:04
  eventually
• 44:05
  died
• 44:05
  of
• 44:05
  Huntington's
• 44:06
  Disease.
• 44:06
  And
• 44:06
  we
• 44:06
  sat
• 44:07
  down
• 44:07
  and
• 44:07
  talked
• 44:07
  through
• 44:07
  that,
• 44:07
  and
• 44:07
  you
• 44:08
  make
• 44:08
  this
• 44:08
  connection
• 44:08
  with
• 44:08
  a
• 44:09
  guy
• 44:09
  over
• 44:09
  something
• 44:10
  that
• 44:10
  personal,
• 44:11
  and
• 44:12
  it
• 44:12
  just
• 44:12
  doesn't
• 44:13
  go
• 44:13
  away.
• 44:13
  So.
• 44:14
  Yeah,
• 44:15
  yeah,
• 44:16
  the.
• 44:16
  And
• 44:16
  I
• 44:16
  know.
• 44:16
  I
• 44:17
  want
• 44:17
  to
• 44:17
  be
• 44:17
  cognizant
• 44:17
  of
• 44:18
  our
• 44:18
  time
• 44:18
  with
• 44:18
  you
• 44:18
  here.
• 44:18
  You
• 44:19
  got
• 44:19
  time
• 44:19
  for
• 44:19
  a
• 44:19
  couple
• 44:19
  more
• 44:20
  quick
• 44:20
  questions?
• 44:21
  Yeah,
• 44:22
  okay.
• 44:22
  Yeah.
• 44:23
  I
• 44:23
  thought
• 44:23
  we
• 44:23
  were
• 44:23
  going
• 44:23
  to
• 44:23
  talk
• 44:23
  about
• 44:24
  the
• 44:24
  300.
• 44:25
  Oh,
• 44:26
  yeah,
• 44:26
  no,
• 44:26
  we
• 44:26
  can
• 44:26
  definitely
• 44:27
  get
• 44:27
  into
• 44:27
  that
• 44:28
  100.
• 44:29
  So
• 44:29
  we
• 44:29
  knew
• 44:29
  we
• 44:29
  were
• 44:29
  going
• 44:30
  to
• 44:30
  run
• 44:30
  out
• 44:30
  of
• 44:30
  time.
• 44:32
  We
• 44:32
  knew.
• 44:32
  We
• 44:33
  knew
• 44:33
  we
• 44:33
  probably
• 44:33
  weren't
• 44:33
  going
• 44:34
  to
• 44:34
  get
• 44:34
  to
• 44:34
  everything,
• 44:34
  but.
• 44:35
  Yeah,
• 44:35
  before
• 44:36
  we
• 44:36
  jump
• 44:36
  to
• 44:36
  that,
• 44:36
  I
• 44:36
  want
• 44:37
  to
• 44:37
  touch
• 44:37
  on
• 44:37
  one
• 44:37
  thing.
• 44:38
  So
• 44:38
  my
• 44:38
  dad
• 44:39
  grew
• 44:39
  up
• 44:39
  in
• 44:40
  Cincinnati,
• 44:40
  Ohio,
• 44:41
  born
• 44:41
  and
• 44:41
  raised,
• 44:42
  and
• 44:42
  influenced
• 44:43
  my.
• 44:43
  My
• 44:44
  fandom
• 44:45
  forever.
• 44:45
  Even
• 44:46
  though
• 44:46
  I.
• 44:46
  When
• 44:46
  we
• 44:47
  moved
• 44:47
  up
• 44:47
  to
• 44:47
  dfw,
• 44:48
  I
• 44:48
  did
• 44:48
  become
• 44:48
  a
• 44:48
  Rangers
• 44:49
  fan.
• 44:49
  But
• 44:49
  there's
• 44:49
  always
• 44:50
  been
• 44:50
  a
• 44:50
  little
• 44:50
  spot
• 44:50
  in
• 44:51
  my
• 44:51
  heart
• 44:51
  for
• 44:51
  the
• 44:51
  Cincinnati
• 44:52
  Reds
• 44:52
  because
• 44:53
  of
• 44:53
  my
• 44:53
  dad
• 44:53
  and
• 44:54
  my
• 44:54
  grandpa,
• 44:54
  who
• 44:54
  are
• 44:55
  my
• 44:55
  two
• 44:55
  biggest
• 44:56
  influences
• 44:56
  from
• 44:57
  any
• 44:57
  sport.
• 44:58
  You
• 44:58
  know,
• 44:58
  anything
• 44:58
  I'm
• 44:58
  watching,
• 44:59
  paying
• 44:59
  attention
• 44:59
  to.
• 45:00
  So
• 45:00
  what
• 45:00
  years
• 45:00
  were
• 45:01
  you
• 45:01
  with
• 45:01
  the
• 45:01
  Inquirer?
• 45:02
  So
• 45:03
  I.
• 45:03
  I
• 45:03
  covered
• 45:04
  the
• 45:04
  Reds
• 45:04
  for
• 45:04
  one
• 45:05
  year.
• 45:05
  1997.
• 45:06
  1997.
• 45:08
  And.
• 45:09
  Talk
• 45:09
  to
• 45:09
  me
• 45:09
  a
• 45:10
  little
• 45:10
  bit,
• 45:10
  just
• 45:10
  really
• 45:11
  briefly,
• 45:11
  about.
• 45:12
  Give
• 45:12
  me
• 45:12
  one
• 45:12
  highlight
• 45:13
  from
• 45:13
  that
• 45:13
  1997
• 45:14
  red
• 45:15
  season.
• 45:17
  Well,
• 45:18
  I
• 45:18
  mean,
• 45:18
  that
• 45:18
  was
• 45:18
  a
• 45:19
  Dion
• 45:19
  year.
• 45:19
  Dion,
• 45:19
  like
• 45:20
  helicoptering
• 45:21
  back
• 45:21
  and
• 45:21
  forth?
• 45:22
  Yeah,
• 45:22
  man.
• 45:23
  Wild.
• 45:24
  But,
• 45:25
  you
• 45:25
  know,
• 45:25
  Jim
• 45:25
  Bowden
• 45:26
  was
• 45:26
  the
• 45:26
  GM
• 45:26
  of
• 45:27
  that
• 45:27
  team,
• 45:27
  and
• 45:27
  the
• 45:27
  owner
• 45:28
  was
• 45:28
  Marge
• 45:28
  Shot.
• 45:29
  And
• 45:30
  when
• 45:30
  you
• 45:30
  asked
• 45:31
  me
• 45:31
  about
• 45:31
  that
• 45:31
  season,
• 45:32
  I
• 45:32
  think
• 45:32
  of
• 45:33
  it
• 45:33
  may
• 45:34
  have
• 45:34
  been
• 45:34
  opening
• 45:35
  day
• 45:37
  or
• 45:37
  right
• 45:37
  around
• 45:38
  there.
• 45:38
  And
• 45:39
  Jim
• 45:39
  Bowden
• 45:39
  says
• 45:40
  to
• 45:40
  me,
• 45:40
  as
• 45:41
  the
• 45:41
  new
• 45:41
  beat
• 45:41
  writer
• 45:42
  at
• 45:42
  the
• 45:42
  Cincinnati
• 45:43
  Inquirer,
• 45:43
  you
• 45:43
  need
• 45:44
  to
• 45:44
  meet
• 45:44
  Marge.
• 45:45
  Oh,
• 45:45
  gosh.
• 45:46
  I'm
• 45:46
  like,
• 45:46
  all
• 45:46
  right,
• 45:47
  bring
• 45:47
  her
• 45:47
  on.
• 45:47
  What
• 45:47
  do
• 45:48
  we
• 45:48
  got?
• 45:48
  Let's
• 45:48
  see
• 45:48
  how
• 45:49
  it
• 45:49
  goes.
• 45:49
  Well,
• 45:50
  he
• 45:50
  brings
• 45:50
  me
• 45:50
  into
• 45:51
  this
• 45:51
  suite,
• 45:52
  and
• 45:52
  there's
• 45:52
  a
• 45:53
  bunch
• 45:53
  of
• 45:53
  people
• 45:53
  in
• 45:53
  there,
• 45:53
  and
• 45:53
  there's
• 45:54
  Marge,
• 45:54
  and
• 45:54
  she's
• 45:55
  sort
• 45:55
  of
• 45:55
  entertaining
• 45:55
  and
• 45:56
  everything.
• 45:56
  And
• 45:57
  Jim
• 45:57
  says,
• 45:58
  marge.
• 45:58
  Marge,
• 45:59
  I
• 45:59
  want
• 45:59
  you
• 46:00
  to
• 46:00
  meet
• 46:00
  someone.
• 46:00
  And
• 46:00
  she
• 46:01
  says,
• 46:01
  oh,
• 46:01
  okay.
• 46:01
  And
• 46:02
  she
• 46:02
  sort
• 46:02
  of
• 46:02
  totters
• 46:03
  over,
• 46:03
  and
• 46:04
  he
• 46:04
  says,
• 46:05
  this
• 46:05
  is
• 46:05
  Tim
• 46:05
  Brown.
• 46:06
  And
• 46:06
  she
• 46:06
  reaches
• 46:06
  out
• 46:07
  her
• 46:07
  hand,
• 46:08
  and
• 46:08
  Jim
• 46:08
  finishes
• 46:09
  with,
• 46:09
  he's
• 46:10
  the
• 46:10
  beat
• 46:10
  writer
• 46:11
  for
• 46:11
  the
• 46:11
  Cincinnati
• 46:12
  Inquirer.
• 46:12
  And
• 46:13
  our
• 46:13
  hands
• 46:13
  got
• 46:14
  this
• 46:14
  close
• 46:14
  together
• 46:15
  like
• 46:15
  Sistine
• 46:16
  Chapel
• 46:16
  reaching
• 46:17
  out.
• 46:17
  And
• 46:18
  she
• 46:18
  went,
• 46:18
  the
• 46:19
  Cincinnati
• 46:19
  Inquirer,
• 46:20
  Yuck.
• 46:21
  She
• 46:21
  pulled
• 46:22
  her
• 46:22
  hand
• 46:22
  away.
• 46:24
  And
• 46:24
  that
• 46:24
  was
• 46:25
  the
• 46:25
  introduction
• 46:26
  of
• 46:26
  me
• 46:27
  and
• 46:27
  Marge
• 46:27
  Shot.
• 46:27
  And
• 46:28
  that
• 46:28
  was
• 46:28
  our
• 46:28
  Entire
• 46:29
  conversation
• 46:30
  I
• 46:30
  never
• 46:30
  talked
• 46:30
  to
• 46:31
  her
• 46:31
  again.
• 46:31
  Yeah.
• 46:32
  And
• 46:32
  that
• 46:32
  was
• 46:33
  that.
• 46:33
  But
• 46:34
  since
• 46:35
  I
• 46:35
  What
• 46:35
  a
• 46:35
  great
• 46:35
  baseball
• 46:36
  town
• 46:37
  that
• 46:37
  was.
• 46:38
  97
• 46:39
  was
• 46:39
  Dion
• 46:39
  Barry.
• 46:40
  Barry
• 46:40
  Larkin
• 46:41
  was
• 46:41
  shortstop.
• 46:42
  Aaron
• 46:42
  Boone
• 46:43
  was
• 46:43
  a
• 46:43
  rookie
• 46:43
  on
• 46:44
  that
• 46:44
  team.
• 46:46
  Reggie
• 46:47
  Sanders.
• 46:49
  Brett
• 46:49
  Boone
• 46:50
  was
• 46:50
  on
• 46:50
  that
• 46:50
  team.
• 46:50
  Had
• 46:51
  a
• 46:51
  rough
• 46:51
  year.
• 46:52
  Ray
• 46:52
  Knight
• 46:53
  got
• 46:53
  fired.
• 46:54
  They
• 46:54
  brought
• 46:54
  Jack
• 46:54
  McKeon
• 46:55
  in.
• 46:57
  The
• 46:57
  Reds
• 46:57
  were
• 46:57
  not
• 46:58
  very
• 46:58
  good
• 46:58
  obviously
• 46:59
  and
• 47:00
  But
• 47:00
  I
• 47:00
  got
• 47:00
  a
• 47:00
  sense
• 47:01
  of
• 47:01
  you
• 47:01
  know,
• 47:01
  it
• 47:02
  was
• 47:02
  sort
• 47:02
  of
• 47:02
  my
• 47:03
  one
• 47:03
  and
• 47:03
  only
• 47:03
  time
• 47:04
  covering
• 47:04
  in
• 47:05
  the
• 47:05
  Midwest
• 47:05
  in
• 47:06
  you
• 47:06
  know,
• 47:06
  quote
• 47:06
  unquote
• 47:07
  baseball
• 47:07
  town.
• 47:08
  Sort
• 47:08
  of
• 47:08
  a
• 47:08
  smallish
• 47:09
  baseball
• 47:09
  town
• 47:10
  and
• 47:10
  I.
• 47:10
  I
• 47:11
  really
• 47:11
  enjoyed
• 47:11
  it.
• 47:11
  I
• 47:11
  was
• 47:12
  just
• 47:12
  sort
• 47:12
  of
• 47:12
  on
• 47:12
  my
• 47:13
  way
• 47:13
  to
• 47:13
  the
• 47:13
  next
• 47:13
  thing.
• 47:14
  Yes.
• 47:14
  Yeah.
• 47:15
  Ended
• 47:15
  up
• 47:15
  in
• 47:15
  New
• 47:16
  York
• 47:16
  right
• 47:16
  after
• 47:16
  that.
• 47:17
  Well
• 47:17
  and
• 47:18
  I.
• 47:18
  I
• 47:18
  was
• 47:18
  curious
• 47:19
  on
• 47:19
  the
• 47:19
  year
• 47:19
  you
• 47:19
  were
• 47:20
  there
• 47:20
  and
• 47:20
  yeah,
• 47:20
  that
• 47:20
  wasn't
• 47:20
  a
• 47:21
  great
• 47:21
  year
• 47:21
  in
• 47:21
  Red's
• 47:21
  history.
• 47:22
  But
• 47:22
  yeah.
• 47:22
  Larkin
• 47:23
  Lin
• 47:24
  arguably
• 47:24
  top
• 47:25
  four
• 47:25
  player
• 47:25
  for
• 47:26
  me
• 47:26
  ever
• 47:26
  in
• 47:27
  terms
• 47:27
  of
• 47:27
  my
• 47:27
  fandom
• 47:28
  and
• 47:28
  just
• 47:28
  you
• 47:29
  know,
• 47:29
  seems
• 47:29
  like
• 47:29
  an
• 47:30
  amazing
• 47:30
  guy
• 47:30
  as
• 47:31
  well.
• 47:31
  Really.
• 47:32
  Really
• 47:32
  such
• 47:32
  an
• 47:32
  elegant
• 47:33
  player
• 47:33
  really.
• 47:34
  And
• 47:34
  he
• 47:34
  got
• 47:34
  hurt
• 47:35
  that
• 47:35
  he
• 47:35
  had
• 47:35
  like
• 47:35
  a
• 47:36
  heel
• 47:36
  thing.
• 47:37
  I
• 47:37
  think
• 47:37
  that
• 47:37
  year
• 47:37
  missed
• 47:38
  a
• 47:38
  bunch
• 47:38
  of
• 47:38
  games.
• 47:39
  Yeah.
• 47:41
  Well
• 47:41
  and
• 47:41
  I
• 47:41
  didn't
• 47:42
  mean
• 47:42
  to
• 47:42
  tangent
• 47:43
  too
• 47:43
  hard
• 47:43
  away
• 47:44
  from.
• 47:44
  From
• 47:44
  the.
• 47:46
  From
• 47:46
  Nolan
• 47:46
  and
• 47:47
  the
• 47:47
  Rangers.
• 47:47
  So
• 47:48
  let's
• 47:48
  go
• 47:48
  Back
• 47:48
  to
• 47:48
  the.
• 47:49
  The
• 47:49
  300.
• 47:49
  The
• 47:50
  we
• 47:50
  can.
• 47:50
  I
• 47:50
  just
• 47:50
  had
• 47:50
  one
• 47:50
  thing
• 47:51
  about
• 47:51
  the
• 47:52
  back
• 47:52
  to
• 47:52
  Nolan.
• 47:52
  But
• 47:53
  when
• 47:53
  Nolan
• 47:54
  would
• 47:54
  have
• 47:54
  an
• 47:54
  achievement
• 47:56
  I
• 47:57
  would
• 47:57
  have
• 47:57
  my
• 47:58
  mom
• 47:58
  drive
• 47:59
  me
• 47:59
  to
• 47:59
  the
• 48:00
  grocery
• 48:00
  store
• 48:01
  with
• 48:01
  I
• 48:02
  I
• 48:02
  always
• 48:02
  kept
• 48:02
  like
• 48:03
  rolls
• 48:03
  of
• 48:03
  quarters
• 48:04
  and
• 48:04
  I
• 48:04
  if
• 48:05
  it
• 48:05
  was
• 48:05
  so
• 48:05
  my
• 48:06
  300th
• 48:06
  win
• 48:06
  story
• 48:07
  is
• 48:07
  he
• 48:08
  gets
• 48:08
  a
• 48:08
  300th
• 48:08
  win
• 48:09
  in
• 48:09
  Milwaukee.
• 48:09
  She
• 48:10
  drives
• 48:10
  me
• 48:11
  the
• 48:11
  next
• 48:11
  morning
• 48:11
  to
• 48:12
  the
• 48:12
  grocery
• 48:12
  store
• 48:13
  and
• 48:13
  I
• 48:13
  pumped
• 48:14
  $3
• 48:15
  worth
• 48:15
  of
• 48:15
  quarters
• 48:16
  and
• 48:16
  took
• 48:16
  12
• 48:17
  or
• 48:17
  star
• 48:17
  telegrams
• 48:19
  out
• 48:19
  of
• 48:19
  the
• 48:19
  deal.
• 48:20
  Put
• 48:20
  them
• 48:20
  in
• 48:21
  the
• 48:21
  back
• 48:21
  and
• 48:21
  then
• 48:21
  they
• 48:21
  were
• 48:22
  under
• 48:22
  my
• 48:22
  bed
• 48:23
  through
• 48:23
  college.
• 48:24
  Like
• 48:24
  I
• 48:24
  had
• 48:24
  like
• 48:25
  I
• 48:25
  was
• 48:25
  like
• 48:25
  these
• 48:25
  are
• 48:26
  going
• 48:26
  to
• 48:26
  much
• 48:27
  like
• 48:27
  the
• 48:27
  junk
• 48:27
  wax
• 48:28
  era.
• 48:28
  Like
• 48:28
  these
• 48:29
  are
• 48:29
  going
• 48:29
  to
• 48:29
  pay
• 48:29
  for.
• 48:29
  This
• 48:30
  was
• 48:30
  going
• 48:30
  to
• 48:30
  pay
• 48:30
  for
• 48:31
  my
• 48:31
  first
• 48:31
  house.
• 48:32
  These
• 48:32
  star
• 48:32
  telegrams
• 48:33
  Honest
• 48:34
  guy
• 48:34
  ever
• 48:34
  Everyone
• 48:35
  else.
• 48:35
  Yeah
• 48:38
  I
• 48:38
  was
• 48:38
  gonna
• 48:39
  that
• 48:39
  there
• 48:39
  was
• 48:39
  somebody
• 48:39
  around
• 48:40
  the
• 48:40
  newspaper.
• 48:41
  Police
• 48:41
  were
• 48:42
  around
• 48:42
  the
• 48:42
  corner.
• 48:42
  They
• 48:43
  were
• 48:43
  gonna
• 48:44
  but
• 48:44
  those
• 48:44
  were
• 48:44
  my
• 48:45
  like
• 48:45
  that
• 48:45
  was
• 48:45
  also
• 48:46
  part
• 48:46
  of
• 48:46
  the
• 48:46
  note
• 48:46
  like
• 48:47
  when
• 48:47
  I
• 48:47
  was
• 48:47
  reading
• 48:47
  the
• 48:47
  book
• 48:47
  that
• 48:47
  was
• 48:48
  part
• 48:48
  of
• 48:48
  the
• 48:48
  thing
• 48:48
  that
• 48:48
  I
• 48:48
  kept
• 48:49
  remembering
• 48:49
  about
• 48:49
  Nolan
• 48:50
  strikeout.
• 48:51
  I
• 48:52
  got
• 48:52
  you
• 48:52
  know
• 48:53
  five
• 48:53
  Dallas
• 48:53
  Morning
• 48:53
  News
• 48:54
  and
• 48:54
  five.
• 48:54
  You
• 48:55
  know,
• 48:55
  I
• 48:55
  don't
• 48:55
  know
• 48:55
  what
• 48:56
  you
• 48:56
  know,
• 48:57
  I
• 48:57
  don't
• 48:57
  know
• 48:57
  what
• 48:57
  I
• 48:57
  was
• 48:57
  thinking
• 48:57
  I
• 48:58
  was
• 48:58
  going
• 48:58
  to
• 48:58
  do
• 48:58
  with
• 48:58
  these
• 48:58
  newspapers
• 48:59
  but
• 49:00
  like
• 49:00
  just
• 49:01
  wanting
• 49:01
  a
• 49:02
  piece
• 49:02
  of
• 49:02
  Nolan
• 49:02
  and
• 49:02
  then
• 49:02
  Sunday
• 49:03
  they'd
• 49:03
  put
• 49:03
  a
• 49:03
  poster
• 49:04
  out.
• 49:04
  They
• 49:04
  do
• 49:04
  that
• 49:05
  every.
• 49:05
  I
• 49:05
  mean
• 49:05
  they
• 49:05
  they
• 49:05
  knew
• 49:06
  what
• 49:06
  they
• 49:06
  were
• 49:06
  doing.
• 49:07
  It's
• 49:07
  just
• 49:07
  money
• 49:07
  hand
• 49:08
  over
• 49:08
  fist.
• 49:08
  You
• 49:08
  know,
• 49:09
  people
• 49:09
  were
• 49:09
  pumping
• 49:10
  $2
• 49:10
  and
• 49:10
  quarters
• 49:11
  to
• 49:11
  get
• 49:11
  that
• 49:12
  poster
• 49:13
  hanging
• 49:13
  up
• 49:13
  on
• 49:13
  their
• 49:13
  wall.
• 49:14
  But
• 49:14
  no
• 49:14
  doubt.
• 49:15
  Did
• 49:15
  you.
• 49:16
  I
• 49:16
  mean,
• 49:16
  did
• 49:17
  you
• 49:17
  talk
• 49:17
  to
• 49:17
  Nolan
• 49:17
  at
• 49:18
  all
• 49:18
  about
• 49:18
  these
• 49:18
  milestones?
• 49:19
  Like,
• 49:19
  the
• 49:19
  300
• 49:20
  in
• 49:20
  terms
• 49:20
  of.
• 49:21
  Like,
• 49:22
  this
• 49:22
  goes
• 49:22
  back
• 49:22
  to
• 49:23
  what
• 49:23
  I
• 49:23
  was
• 49:23
  talking
• 49:23
  about
• 49:23
  before
• 49:24
  is,
• 49:24
  you
• 49:25
  know,
• 49:25
  how
• 49:25
  do
• 49:25
  you
• 49:25
  write
• 49:25
  a
• 49:26
  story
• 49:26
  about
• 49:26
  a
• 49:26
  guy
• 49:28
  when
• 49:28
  people
• 49:29
  know
• 49:29
  the
• 49:29
  story?
• 49:30
  Yeah,
• 49:30
  I
• 49:30
  was
• 49:30
  really
• 49:31
  focused
• 49:31
  on
• 49:32
  some
• 49:32
  of
• 49:32
  the
• 49:32
  stuff
• 49:33
  underneath.
• 49:34
  Yeah.
• 49:34
  Yeah,
• 49:34
  absolutely.
• 49:35
  What
• 49:36
  I
• 49:36
  was
• 49:36
  thinking
• 49:36
  about
• 49:37
  Today,
• 49:37
  about
• 49:37
  the
• 49:38
  300th
• 49:38
  win,
• 49:38
  was
• 49:38
  a
• 49:39
  conversation
• 49:39
  he
• 49:39
  had
• 49:39
  with
• 49:40
  Don
• 49:40
  Sutton
• 49:40
  in
• 49:40
  the
• 49:40
  outfield
• 49:41
  in
• 49:41
  Houston,
• 49:43
  you
• 49:44
  know,
• 49:44
  eight,
• 49:45
  nine
• 49:45
  years
• 49:45
  before
• 49:46
  that,
• 49:48
  where,
• 49:49
  you
• 49:49
  know,
• 49:49
  Sutton
• 49:50
  and
• 49:51
  Nolan
• 49:52
  came
• 49:52
  into
• 49:52
  the
• 49:52
  league
• 49:52
  right
• 49:53
  about
• 49:53
  the
• 49:53
  same
• 49:53
  time.
• 49:53
  Don
• 49:54
  was
• 49:54
  a
• 49:54
  couple
• 49:54
  years
• 49:54
  older,
• 49:55
  but
• 49:55
  they.
• 49:55
  Right
• 49:55
  about
• 49:56
  the
• 49:56
  same
• 49:56
  time
• 49:56
  they
• 49:56
  came
• 49:57
  into
• 49:57
  the
• 49:57
  league,
• 49:58
  and
• 49:58
  I
• 49:59
  think
• 49:59
  in
• 49:59
  81
• 50:00
  and
• 50:00
  82,
• 50:01
  I
• 50:01
  want
• 50:01
  to
• 50:01
  say
• 50:01
  they
• 50:01
  were
• 50:01
  teammates
• 50:02
  in
• 50:02
  Houston,
• 50:03
  and
• 50:03
  they
• 50:04
  got
• 50:04
  to
• 50:04
  talking,
• 50:05
  and,
• 50:07
  you
• 50:08
  know,
• 50:08
  they.
• 50:08
  They
• 50:08
  had
• 50:08
  very
• 50:09
  similar
• 50:09
  careers.
• 50:09
  They
• 50:10
  weren't
• 50:10
  similar
• 50:10
  pitchers
• 50:11
  so
• 50:11
  much
• 50:11
  as
• 50:11
  they,
• 50:12
  you
• 50:12
  know,
• 50:12
  they
• 50:12
  both
• 50:12
  pitched
• 50:13
  a
• 50:13
  long
• 50:13
  time.
• 50:14
  They
• 50:14
  both
• 50:14
  won
• 50:14
  a
• 50:14
  lot
• 50:15
  of
• 50:15
  games,
• 50:15
  lost
• 50:15
  a
• 50:15
  lot
• 50:15
  of
• 50:16
  games,
• 50:17
  you
• 50:17
  know,
• 50:18
  pitched
• 50:18
  deep
• 50:19
  into
• 50:19
  games.
• 50:21
  In
• 50:21
  that
• 50:21
  way,
• 50:21
  they
• 50:21
  were
• 50:22
  very
• 50:22
  similar.
• 50:22
  Nolan
• 50:23
  or
• 50:24
  Don
• 50:24
  Sutton
• 50:25
  says
• 50:25
  to
• 50:25
  Nolan,
• 50:26
  you
• 50:27
  know,
• 50:27
  I
• 50:28
  think
• 50:28
  the
• 50:28
  only
• 50:28
  way
• 50:28
  I'm
• 50:28
  getting
• 50:29
  into
• 50:29
  the
• 50:29
  hall
• 50:29
  of
• 50:29
  Fame
• 50:29
  is
• 50:30
  if
• 50:30
  I
• 50:30
  win
• 50:30
  300
• 50:30
  games.
• 50:32
  And
• 50:32
  Nolan
• 50:33
  said
• 50:33
  it
• 50:33
  was
• 50:33
  the
• 50:33
  very
• 50:33
  first
• 50:34
  time
• 50:34
  during
• 50:34
  that
• 50:35
  conversation
• 50:35
  where
• 50:36
  he
• 50:36
  thought
• 50:36
  about
• 50:37
  something
• 50:37
  like
• 50:37
  that,
• 50:37
  that.
• 50:38
  Where,
• 50:39
  you
• 50:39
  know,
• 50:39
  he.
• 50:39
  He
• 50:40
  thought
• 50:40
  about
• 50:40
  himself,
• 50:41
  like,
• 50:42
  oh,
• 50:43
  right,
• 50:43
  the
• 50:44
  hall
• 50:44
  of
• 50:44
  Fame.
• 50:44
  I
• 50:45
  hadn't
• 50:45
  really
• 50:45
  thought
• 50:45
  about
• 50:46
  that
• 50:46
  before
• 50:47
  and.
• 50:47
  And
• 50:48
  how
• 50:48
  I'm
• 50:48
  going
• 50:48
  to
• 50:48
  get
• 50:49
  there.
• 50:49
  And,
• 50:50
  you
• 50:50
  know,
• 50:50
  obviously,
• 50:51
  you
• 50:51
  know,
• 50:52
  he
• 50:52
  was.
• 50:52
  Guy
• 50:52
  didn't
• 50:52
  win
• 50:53
  a
• 50:53
  Cy
• 50:53
  Young
• 50:53
  Award.
• 50:54
  He
• 50:55
  didn't
• 50:55
  pitch
• 50:55
  on
• 50:55
  great
• 50:56
  teams.
• 50:57
  Therefore,
• 50:57
  he
• 50:58
  lost
• 50:58
  about
• 50:59
  as
• 50:59
  often
• 50:59
  as
• 50:59
  he
• 50:59
  won
• 51:00
  in
• 51:00
  a
• 51:00
  lot
• 51:01
  of
• 51:01
  years.
• 51:01
  Sometimes
• 51:01
  it
• 51:02
  was
• 51:02
  losing
• 51:03
  a
• 51:03
  lot
• 51:03
  more
• 51:03
  often
• 51:04
  than
• 51:04
  he
• 51:04
  won.
• 51:05
  And
• 51:06
  he
• 51:06
  started
• 51:06
  to
• 51:07
  think
• 51:07
  about
• 51:07
  300
• 51:07
  that
• 51:08
  day
• 51:08
  as
• 51:08
  well,
• 51:10
  for
• 51:10
  that
• 51:10
  very
• 51:10
  reason.
• 51:11
  And
• 51:11
  it
• 51:12
  was
• 51:12
  really.
• 51:12
  It's
• 51:12
  really
• 51:13
  interesting
• 51:13
  that
• 51:14
  at
• 51:14
  the
• 51:14
  time,
• 51:15
  I
• 51:16
  want
• 51:16
  to
• 51:16
  say
• 51:16
  Sutton
• 51:17
  was
• 51:17
  30,
• 51:18
  35,
• 51:19
  40
• 51:19
  wins
• 51:20
  ahead
• 51:20
  of
• 51:20
  Nolan,
• 51:21
  but
• 51:21
  they
• 51:21
  finished
• 51:21
  on
• 51:22
  exactly
• 51:22
  the
• 51:22
  same
• 51:23
  number.
• 51:23
  Yeah,
• 51:23
  324
• 51:24
  wins,
• 51:25
  both
• 51:25
  of
• 51:25
  them,
• 51:25
  which
• 51:26
  is
• 51:26
  kind
• 51:26
  of
• 51:26
  wild.
• 51:27
  And
• 51:27
  then
• 51:27
  they
• 51:27
  went
• 51:27
  into
• 51:27
  the
• 51:27
  hall
• 51:28
  of
• 51:28
  Fame
• 51:28
  in
• 51:28
  consecutive
• 51:29
  years.
• 51:30
  Um,
• 51:31
  so
• 51:31
  that's.
• 51:31
  That's
• 51:32
  what
• 51:32
  I
• 51:32
  thought.
• 51:32
  When
• 51:32
  I
• 51:32
  think
• 51:32
  of
• 51:33
  Nolan's
• 51:33
  300,
• 51:33
  I
• 51:34
  think
• 51:34
  of
• 51:34
  the
• 51:34
  sort
• 51:34
  of
• 51:34
  this
• 51:34
  backstory
• 51:35
  of,
• 51:36
  oh,
• 51:36
  gosh,
• 51:37
  I
• 51:37
  gotta
• 51:37
  somehow
• 51:38
  figure
• 51:38
  out
• 51:38
  a
• 51:38
  way
• 51:38
  to
• 51:38
  win
• 51:38
  300
• 51:39
  games
• 51:39
  if
• 51:39
  I'm
• 51:39
  gonna
• 51:40
  go
• 51:40
  to
• 51:40
  the
• 51:40
  hall
• 51:40
  of
• 51:40
  Fame.
• 51:41
  Yeah,
• 51:42
  I.
• 51:43
  I
• 51:43
  Know,
• 51:43
  we're
• 51:43
  scatter
• 51:43
  shooting
• 51:44
  a
• 51:44
  little
• 51:44
  bit
• 51:44
  here,
• 51:44
  but
• 51:45
  I
• 51:45
  really
• 51:45
  enjoyed
• 51:45
  the
• 51:45
  no
• 51:46
  hitter
• 51:46
  chapters.
• 51:47
  The.
• 51:47
  The
• 51:48
  where
• 51:49
  you
• 51:49
  basically
• 51:49
  just
• 51:50
  pull
• 51:50
  like
• 51:51
  it's
• 51:51
  not,
• 51:51
  you
• 51:52
  know,
• 51:52
  I
• 51:52
  mean,
• 51:52
  I.
• 51:52
  Yeah,
• 51:53
  it's
• 51:53
  like
• 51:53
  you
• 51:53
  say,
• 51:53
  you
• 51:54
  know,
• 51:54
  you
• 51:54
  could
• 51:54
  tell
• 51:54
  the
• 51:54
  story
• 51:55
  that's
• 51:55
  been
• 51:55
  told
• 51:55
  a
• 51:55
  thousand
• 51:56
  times
• 51:56
  or
• 51:56
  you
• 51:56
  can
• 51:56
  find
• 51:57
  new
• 51:57
  wrinkles.
• 51:58
  And
• 51:58
  in
• 51:58
  the
• 51:58
  sixth
• 51:59
  no
• 51:59
  hitter,
• 51:59
  which
• 51:59
  we
• 52:00
  did
• 52:00
  the
• 52:00
  pod
• 52:00
  on,
• 52:01
  you
• 52:01
  tell
• 52:02
  the
• 52:02
  story
• 52:02
  about
• 52:02
  one
• 52:03
  of
• 52:03
  his
• 52:03
  sons
• 52:03
  being
• 52:03
  in
• 52:04
  the
• 52:04
  dugout
• 52:05
  and,
• 52:05
  and
• 52:06
  breaking
• 52:06
  the,
• 52:07
  you
• 52:07
  know,
• 52:07
  three.
• 52:08
  He
• 52:08
  says,
• 52:08
  three
• 52:08
  more,
• 52:09
  dad.
• 52:09
  And
• 52:09
  there's
• 52:09
  just
• 52:09
  a
• 52:09
  collective
• 52:10
  groan
• 52:11
  in
• 52:12
  the.
• 52:12
  In
• 52:12
  the
• 52:12
  dugout.
• 52:13
  Yeah.
• 52:14
  But
• 52:15
  you
• 52:15
  know
• 52:15
  what
• 52:15
  was
• 52:15
  great
• 52:16
  about.
• 52:17
  There's
• 52:17
  also
• 52:17
  a
• 52:18
  great
• 52:18
  story
• 52:18
  where
• 52:18
  you
• 52:18
  tell.
• 52:19
  Not
• 52:20
  to
• 52:20
  give
• 52:20
  everything
• 52:20
  away,
• 52:20
  but
• 52:21
  he's
• 52:21
  in
• 52:21
  Seattle
• 52:22
  two
• 52:22
  days
• 52:22
  later
• 52:22
  and
• 52:22
  the
• 52:23
  waiter
• 52:23
  basically
• 52:23
  asked
• 52:24
  him
• 52:24
  if
• 52:24
  he's
• 52:24
  still
• 52:24
  playing
• 52:25
  baseball
• 52:25
  and
• 52:25
  he
• 52:25
  just
• 52:26
  throw
• 52:26
  the
• 52:26
  six.
• 52:26
  No
• 52:27
  hitter.
• 52:28
  It's
• 52:28
  like,
• 52:28
  hey,
• 52:28
  buddy,
• 52:29
  go
• 52:30
  get
• 52:30
  him,
• 52:30
  champ.
• 52:30
  Go
• 52:30
  get
• 52:31
  him.
• 52:31
  Yeah,
• 52:32
  so
• 52:32
  anyway,
• 52:33
  but
• 52:34
  we,
• 52:36
  we
• 52:36
  need
• 52:36
  to
• 52:37
  let
• 52:37
  you
• 52:37
  go.
• 52:38
  I
• 52:38
  have
• 52:39
  been
• 52:39
  told
• 52:39
  this,
• 52:39
  but
• 52:39
  I
• 52:40
  do
• 52:40
  wanna.
• 52:40
  You're
• 52:40
  coming
• 52:41
  to
• 52:41
  Dallas.
• 52:41
  You're
• 52:41
  coming
• 52:42
  to.
• 52:42
  To
• 52:42
  Arlington
• 52:43
  in
• 52:43
  Dallas
• 52:43
  on
• 52:44
  May
• 52:44
  29th.
• 52:44
  Friday.
• 52:45
  I
• 52:45
  want
• 52:45
  to
• 52:45
  plug
• 52:45
  it
• 52:45
  because
• 52:46
  we're
• 52:46
  going
• 52:46
  to
• 52:46
  be
• 52:46
  there.
• 52:46
  We'll
• 52:47
  be.
• 52:47
  We'll
• 52:47
  see
• 52:47
  you
• 52:47
  at
• 52:48
  some
• 52:48
  point.
• 52:48
  Oh,
• 52:48
  great.
• 52:48
  Yes.
• 52:49
  Great.
• 52:49
  Yeah.
• 52:50
  The
• 52:50
  night
• 52:50
  that
• 52:50
  they're
• 52:51
  giving
• 52:51
  away
• 52:51
  the
• 52:51
  bloody
• 52:52
  jersey,
• 52:52
  I'm
• 52:52
  gonna
• 52:52
  sit
• 52:52
  in
• 52:53
  the
• 52:53
  team
• 52:53
  store
• 52:53
  and
• 52:53
  sign
• 52:54
  books
• 52:54
  and.
• 52:56
  And
• 52:56
  all
• 52:56
  that.
• 52:56
  I'm
• 52:56
  gonna
• 52:56
  do
• 52:57
  Jeff
• 52:57
  Wilson
• 52:58
  stuff.
• 52:59
  Awesome.
• 53:00
  I'm
• 53:01
  doing
• 53:01
  a
• 53:01
  bookstore.
• 53:02
  Yeah,
• 53:02
  you're
• 53:02
  doing
• 53:03
  Interbank
• 53:03
  Books.
• 53:04
  Yeah,
• 53:04
  Interbank
• 53:04
  Books
• 53:05
  in
• 53:05
  Dallas.
• 53:05
  Independent.
• 53:06
  Great.
• 53:06
  Independent
• 53:06
  bookstore
• 53:07
  at
• 53:07
  noon.
• 53:08
  And
• 53:08
  then
• 53:08
  I
• 53:09
  think
• 53:09
  you're
• 53:09
  going
• 53:09
  to
• 53:09
  be
• 53:09
  at
• 53:09
  the
• 53:09
  team
• 53:10
  store
• 53:10
  at
• 53:10
  5.
• 53:11
  Starting
• 53:11
  at
• 53:11
  5,
• 53:12
  up
• 53:12
  and
• 53:12
  up
• 53:12
  through
• 53:13
  game
• 53:13
  time.
• 53:13
  Right.
• 53:14
  On
• 53:14
  Friday.
• 53:15
  Friday
• 53:15
  the
• 53:15
  29th.
• 53:16
  But
• 53:17
  I
• 53:18
  wanted
• 53:18
  to
• 53:18
  thank
• 53:18
  you
• 53:19
  so
• 53:19
  much
• 53:19
  for
• 53:19
  the
• 53:19
  time
• 53:20
  and
• 53:20
  the
• 53:21
  book
• 53:21
  is
• 53:21
  phenomenal.
• 53:22
  I
• 53:22
  hope
• 53:22
  everybody
• 53:22
  goes
• 53:23
  and
• 53:23
  gets
• 53:23
  it
• 53:24
  in
• 53:24
  my
• 53:24
  head.
• 53:24
  I'm
• 53:25
  going
• 53:25
  to
• 53:25
  call
• 53:25
  it
• 53:25
  the
• 53:25
  Last
• 53:25
  Cowboy.
• 53:26
  But
• 53:26
  if
• 53:27
  you're
• 53:27
  going
• 53:27
  to
• 53:27
  Amazon
• 53:28
  or
• 53:28
  Barnes
• 53:29
  and
• 53:29
  Noble
• 53:29
  or
• 53:29
  wherever
• 53:29
  you
• 53:29
  get
• 53:30
  your
• 53:30
  great
• 53:30
  books,
• 53:30
  the
• 53:31
  title
• 53:31
  is
• 53:31
  Nolan
• 53:32
  the
• 53:32
  Singular
• 53:32
  Life
• 53:33
  of
• 53:33
  an
• 53:33
  American
• 53:33
  Original.
• 53:35
  Tim
• 53:35
  Brown,
• 53:35
  thanks
• 53:35
  for
• 53:36
  coming
• 53:36
  to
• 53:36
  the
• 53:36
  mixtape.
• 53:37
  I
• 53:37
  wish
• 53:37
  you
• 53:37
  all
• 53:37
  the
• 53:37
  luck.
• 53:38
  I
• 53:38
  hope
• 53:38
  it
• 53:38
  sells
• 53:39
  a
• 53:39
  million
• 53:39
  billion
• 53:40
  copies.
• 53:40
  That's
• 53:41
  a.
• 53:41
  That's
• 53:41
  a
• 53:41
  real
• 53:41
  number
• 53:42
  with
• 53:42
  you.
• 53:43
  Yeah.
• 53:43
  I
• 53:43
  hope
• 53:43
  it
• 53:44
  sells
• 53:44
  as
• 53:44
  much
• 53:44
  as
• 53:44
  Rory,
• 53:45
  so.
• 53:45
  Oh,
• 53:46
  that
• 53:47
  would
• 53:47
  be
• 53:47
  great
• 53:47
  too.
• 53:47
  I
• 53:48
  just.
• 53:48
  I'd
• 53:48
  be
• 53:48
  happy
• 53:48
  with
• 53:49
  that.
• 53:49
  We
• 53:49
  would
• 53:49
  love
• 53:50
  to
• 53:50
  have
• 53:50
  you
• 53:50
  back
• 53:50
  at
• 53:51
  some
• 53:51
  point.
• 53:51
  I
• 53:51
  saw
• 53:51
  that
• 53:51
  you
• 53:52
  recently
• 53:52
  joined
• 53:52
  Substack.
• 53:53
  Is
• 53:53
  that
• 53:53
  where
• 53:53
  we'll
• 53:54
  find
• 53:54
  you
• 53:54
  moving
• 53:55
  forward?
• 53:55
  I
• 53:55
  did.
• 53:56
  I'm
• 53:56
  sort
• 53:56
  of,
• 53:56
  you
• 53:57
  Know,
• 53:57
  sort
• 53:57
  of
• 53:57
  piecemeal
• 53:58
  and
• 53:58
  that.
• 53:58
  Trying
• 53:58
  to
• 53:59
  figure
• 53:59
  out
• 53:59
  what
• 53:59
  I
• 53:59
  want
• 54:00
  to
• 54:00
  do
• 54:00
  with
• 54:00
  it
• 54:00
  and
• 54:00
  all.
• 54:01
  You
• 54:01
  know,
• 54:01
  my
• 54:01
  wife
• 54:02
  was
• 54:02
  like,
• 54:02
  you
• 54:02
  got
• 54:02
  to
• 54:02
  get
• 54:03
  on
• 54:03
  substack.
• 54:03
  So
• 54:04
  I
• 54:04
  got
• 54:04
  on
• 54:04
  substack.
• 54:05
  Yeah.
• 54:05
  I'm
• 54:05
  a
• 54:05
  good.
• 54:05
  You
• 54:06
  know,
• 54:06
  I
• 54:06
  can
• 54:06
  follow
• 54:06
  orders.
• 54:07
  Yeah.
• 54:08
  And
• 54:08
  just.
• 54:08
  Just
• 54:09
  trying
• 54:09
  to
• 54:09
  sort
• 54:10
  of
• 54:10
  figure
• 54:10
  out
• 54:10
  what
• 54:10
  do
• 54:10
  I
• 54:10
  want
• 54:10
  to
• 54:10
  do
• 54:11
  with
• 54:11
  it.
• 54:11
  Life.
• 54:11
  Baseball.
• 54:12
  Sure.
• 54:13
  Writing,
• 54:14
  you
• 54:14
  know,
• 54:14
  well,
• 54:15
  there's
• 54:15
  a.
• 54:16
  There's
• 54:16
  definitely
• 54:17
  a
• 54:17
  lot
• 54:17
  of
• 54:17
  life
• 54:17
  in
• 54:17
  Nolan.
• 54:18
  I
• 54:18
  really
• 54:18
  thought
• 54:19
  the
• 54:19
  writing,
• 54:19
  especially
• 54:20
  at
• 54:20
  the
• 54:20
  end,
• 54:20
  was
• 54:21
  very
• 54:21
  kind
• 54:21
  of
• 54:22
  understated
• 54:22
  and
• 54:23
  lovely.
• 54:23
  Like,
• 54:23
  it's.
• 54:24
  You.
• 54:24
  You
• 54:25
  got
• 54:25
  out
• 54:25
  of
• 54:25
  the
• 54:25
  way,
• 54:25
  like
• 54:26
  in
• 54:26
  the
• 54:26
  best,
• 54:26
  like
• 54:27
  a
• 54:28
  person
• 54:28
  of
• 54:28
  your
• 54:28
  experience,
• 54:30
  you
• 54:30
  know,
• 54:30
  or
• 54:30
  you're
• 54:31
  somebody
• 54:32
  that
• 54:32
  has
• 54:32
  written
• 54:32
  as
• 54:32
  long
• 54:32
  as
• 54:33
  you
• 54:33
  have
• 54:33
  that.
• 54:34
  It
• 54:34
  really
• 54:34
  showed,
• 54:35
  you
• 54:35
  know,
• 54:35
  shown
• 54:35
  through
• 54:36
  with
• 54:36
  the.
• 54:36
  With
• 54:37
  the
• 54:37
  last
• 54:37
  couple
• 54:37
  chapters.
• 54:38
  So
• 54:38
  I
• 54:38
  really,
• 54:39
  really
• 54:39
  enjoyed.
• 54:40
  I
• 54:40
  was
• 54:40
  really
• 54:40
  moved
• 54:40
  by
• 54:40
  it.
• 54:41
  So,
• 54:41
  again,
• 54:42
  thanks
• 54:42
  for
• 54:42
  the
• 54:42
  time
• 54:42
  and
• 54:43
  hopefully
• 54:43
  we'll
• 54:43
  get
• 54:43
  to
• 54:43
  talk
• 54:44
  to
• 54:44
  you
• 54:44
  about
• 54:44
  something.
• 54:44
  1990S
• 54:46
  down
• 54:46
  the
• 54:46
  road.
• 54:47
  I
• 54:47
  mean,
• 54:48
  I
• 54:48
  lived
• 54:48
  them.
• 54:50
  Yeah.
• 54:51
  Thanks,
• 54:51
  Tim.
• 54:51
  Thank
• 54:52
  you.
• 54:52
  Look
• 54:52
  forward
• 54:52
  to
• 54:52
  seeing
• 54:53
  you
• 54:53
  in
• 54:53
  Dallas.
• 54:53
  Yes,
• 54:54
  we'll
• 54:54
  see
• 54:54
  you.
• 54:55
  Take
• 54:55
  care,.
• 54:59
  Scott.
• 55:00
  How
• 55:01
  about
• 55:01
  that?
• 55:01
  How
• 55:01
  much
• 55:01
  fun
• 55:01
  is
• 55:02
  it
• 55:02
  talking
• 55:02
  to.
• 55:02
  To
• 55:03
  riders?
• 55:03
  I
• 55:04
  love
• 55:04
  it.
• 55:04
  We
• 55:05
  could
• 55:05
  have
• 55:05
  talked
• 55:05
  for
• 55:05
  three
• 55:06
  hours.
• 55:06
  Oh,
• 55:07
  my
• 55:07
  gosh.
• 55:07
  Here's
• 55:08
  the
• 55:08
  thing.
• 55:08
  Like,
• 55:09
  I
• 55:09
  had
• 55:09
  a
• 55:09
  publicist,
• 55:11
  you
• 55:12
  know,
• 55:12
  giving
• 55:12
  us
• 55:13
  a
• 55:13
  time,
• 55:13
  which
• 55:13
  they
• 55:13
  need
• 55:14
  to.
• 55:14
  I
• 55:14
  mean,
• 55:14
  he's
• 55:14
  got
• 55:14
  to
• 55:14
  promote
• 55:15
  the
• 55:15
  book.
• 55:15
  And.
• 55:16
  And
• 55:17
  I
• 55:17
  was.
• 55:17
  I
• 55:17
  was
• 55:17
  really
• 55:18
  worried
• 55:18
  that
• 55:19
  we
• 55:19
  were
• 55:19
  gonna,
• 55:19
  like,
• 55:19
  I
• 55:20
  was
• 55:20
  gonna
• 55:20
  start
• 55:20
  to
• 55:20
  get
• 55:20
  emails
• 55:21
  like,
• 55:22
  hey,
• 55:22
  you're.
• 55:22
  You're.
• 55:23
  Tim
• 55:23
  is
• 55:24
  having
• 55:24
  too
• 55:24
  much
• 55:24
  fun.
• 55:25
  Yes.
• 55:26
  Do
• 55:26
  you
• 55:26
  need
• 55:26
  to
• 55:26
  stop
• 55:26
  having
• 55:27
  too
• 55:27
  much
• 55:27
  fun
• 55:27
  with
• 55:27
  Tim?
• 55:28
  Awesome
• 55:29
  dude.
• 55:29
  Awesome
• 55:29
  dude.
• 55:30
  I
• 55:30
  cannot
• 55:30
  recommend
• 55:31
  the
• 55:31
  book
• 55:31
  enough.
• 55:31
  It
• 55:32
  is
• 55:32
  so
• 55:32
  much
• 55:33
  fun.
• 55:33
  It's
• 55:33
  so
• 55:34
  good.
• 55:34
  It's
• 55:34
  really
• 55:35
  funny.
• 55:35
  The
• 55:35
  stories
• 55:36
  are
• 55:36
  great.
• 55:37
  He's
• 55:38
  absolutely
• 55:38
  right,
• 55:39
  though,
• 55:39
  you
• 55:40
  know,
• 55:40
  just
• 55:40
  in
• 55:41
  terms
• 55:41
  of
• 55:41
  being
• 55:41
  worried
• 55:42
  about
• 55:42
  people,
• 55:43
  you
• 55:44
  know,
• 55:44
  thinking
• 55:44
  they
• 55:45
  know
• 55:45
  everything
• 55:45
  about
• 55:45
  Nolan.
• 55:46
  And
• 55:46
  within
• 55:47
  20
• 55:47
  pages,
• 55:48
  I'm
• 55:48
  like,
• 55:49
  there's
• 55:49
  10
• 55:49
  things
• 55:49
  in
• 55:50
  here
• 55:50
  I
• 55:50
  didn't
• 55:50
  know
• 55:50
  about
• 55:50
  Nolan.
• 55:51
  And
• 55:51
  it's
• 55:51
  that
• 55:52
  way
• 55:52
  for
• 55:52
  325
• 55:53
  pages.
• 55:54
  It's.
• 55:54
  It's
• 55:55
  something
• 55:55
  you
• 55:55
  want
• 55:56
  to
• 55:56
  just
• 55:56
  kind
• 55:56
  of
• 55:57
  stay
• 55:57
  with.
• 55:57
  Like,
• 55:57
  it's
• 55:58
  just
• 55:58
  a
• 55:58
  great
• 55:59
  sports
• 55:59
  bio
• 56:00
  biography,
• 56:01
  and
• 56:01
  I
• 56:01
  can't
• 56:01
  wait
• 56:01
  to
• 56:02
  go
• 56:02
  meet
• 56:02
  him
• 56:03
  and
• 56:04
  ask
• 56:04
  more
• 56:04
  questions.
• 56:05
  Yeah,
• 56:05
  I
• 56:05
  can't
• 56:06
  wait
• 56:06
  to
• 56:06
  finish
• 56:06
  it.
• 56:06
  And
• 56:06
  that'll
• 56:07
  be.
• 56:07
  My
• 56:07
  new
• 56:07
  target,
• 56:07
  is
• 56:08
  to
• 56:08
  finish
• 56:08
  it
• 56:08
  prior
• 56:09
  to.
• 56:09
  To
• 56:10
  us
• 56:10
  going
• 56:10
  to
• 56:10
  his
• 56:11
  kind
• 56:12
  of
• 56:12
  his
• 56:12
  book
• 56:12
  publicity
• 56:13
  stuff
• 56:13
  when
• 56:14
  he
• 56:14
  comes
• 56:14
  to
• 56:14
  dfw.
• 56:15
  I
• 56:15
  always
• 56:15
  wonder,
• 56:16
  though,
• 56:16
  in
• 56:16
  this
• 56:16
  situation,
• 56:16
  I
• 56:17
  shouldn't.
• 56:17
  Shouldn't
• 56:17
  say
• 56:17
  always.
• 56:18
  It's
• 56:18
  not
• 56:18
  like
• 56:18
  we
• 56:18
  have
• 56:19
  had
• 56:19
  thousands
• 56:19
  of.
• 56:20
  But
• 56:20
  we've
• 56:20
  had
• 56:20
  two
• 56:20
  great
• 56:21
  actors
• 56:21
  on
• 56:22
  now
• 56:22
  covering
• 56:22
  two
• 56:22
  great
• 56:23
  thousands
• 56:23
  of
• 56:24
  guests.
• 56:24
  But
• 56:25
  I
• 56:25
  was
• 56:25
  sitting
• 56:25
  here
• 56:25
  thinking
• 56:26
  like
• 56:26
  I,
• 56:26
  I
• 56:27
  really
• 56:27
  felt
• 56:28
  like
• 56:28
  with
• 56:28
  both
• 56:28
  of
• 56:28
  them,
• 56:29
  like
• 56:30
  they
• 56:30
  would
• 56:30
  have
• 56:30
  kept
• 56:31
  going
• 56:31
  had
• 56:31
  you
• 56:31
  not
• 56:32
  put
• 56:32
  that.
• 56:32
  And
• 56:32
  I
• 56:32
  know
• 56:32
  you
• 56:33
  have
• 56:33
  to
• 56:33
  and
• 56:33
  I
• 56:33
  know
• 56:33
  there's
• 56:34
  a
• 56:34
  publicist
• 56:34
  that's
• 56:34
  probably
• 56:35
  going
• 56:35
  to
• 56:35
  wreak
• 56:35
  hell
• 56:35
  on
• 56:35
  everyone
• 56:36
  if
• 56:36
  we
• 56:36
  don't
• 56:36
  follow
• 56:36
  a
• 56:37
  schedule.
• 56:37
  Sure.
• 56:37
  And
• 56:38
  that
• 56:38
  makes
• 56:38
  sense.
• 56:38
  But
• 56:39
  I
• 56:39
  do
• 56:39
  love
• 56:40
  the
• 56:40
  fact
• 56:40
  that
• 56:40
  he
• 56:41
  and,
• 56:41
  and
• 56:42
  Shipnuk
• 56:43
  both
• 56:43
  really
• 56:44
  seem
• 56:44
  to
• 56:44
  get
• 56:45
  like
• 56:45
  kind
• 56:46
  of
• 56:46
  big
• 56:46
  eyed
• 56:46
  when
• 56:47
  it
• 56:47
  was
• 56:47
  like
• 56:47
  hey
• 56:47
  now
• 56:47
  we're
• 56:48
  going
• 56:48
  to
• 56:48
  talk
• 56:48
  about
• 56:48
  the
• 56:48
  90s
• 56:49
  a
• 56:49
  little
• 56:49
  bit.
• 56:49
  Yeah.
• 56:50
  Or
• 56:50
  whatever.
• 56:50
  And
• 56:50
  I
• 56:51
  think
• 56:51
  we
• 56:51
  could
• 56:51
  have
• 56:51
  gone
• 56:51
  on
• 56:52
  for
• 56:52
  a
• 56:52
  long
• 56:52
  time
• 56:52
  with
• 56:52
  him
• 56:53
  there.
• 56:53
  But
• 56:53
  again
• 56:54
  we
• 56:54
  have
• 56:54
  to
• 56:54
  be
• 56:54
  aware
• 56:55
  of
• 56:55
  those
• 56:55
  time
• 56:55
  constraints
• 56:56
  because
• 56:56
  you're
• 56:56
  right,
• 56:57
  he's
• 56:57
  probably
• 56:57
  moving
• 56:58
  on
• 56:58
  to
• 56:59
  several
• 57:00
  more
• 57:00
  of
• 57:00
  these
• 57:00
  type
• 57:01
  of
• 57:01
  engagements
• 57:01
  for
• 57:02
  sure.
• 57:02
  Yeah.
• 57:05
  I
• 57:05
  think
• 57:05
  that
• 57:05
  there's
• 57:06
  going
• 57:06
  to
• 57:06
  be,
• 57:06
  I
• 57:07
  think
• 57:07
  we're
• 57:07
  going
• 57:07
  to
• 57:07
  see
• 57:07
  a
• 57:07
  lot
• 57:07
  of
• 57:07
  Nolan
• 57:08
  stuff
• 57:08
  in
• 57:09
  the
• 57:09
  next
• 57:09
  week,
• 57:10
  week
• 57:10
  or
• 57:10
  two.
• 57:11
  And,
• 57:11
  and
• 57:11
  I
• 57:11
  hope,
• 57:12
  man,
• 57:12
  I
• 57:12
  hope
• 57:12
  that
• 57:13
  I
• 57:13
  think
• 57:13
  this
• 57:13
  book
• 57:14
  is
• 57:14
  going
• 57:14
  to
• 57:14
  be
• 57:14
  an
• 57:14
  easy
• 57:15
  bestseller.
• 57:17
  I
• 57:17
  really
• 57:18
  do
• 57:18
  wish
• 57:18
  him
• 57:19
  all
• 57:19
  the,
• 57:19
  all
• 57:20
  the
• 57:20
  luck
• 57:20
  and
• 57:20
  success
• 57:20
  with
• 57:21
  the
• 57:21
  book
• 57:21
  because
• 57:21
  it
• 57:21
  is
• 57:21
  worth
• 57:22
  it.
• 57:22
  Like
• 57:22
  it's
• 57:22
  not.
• 57:23
  It's
• 57:24
  not.
• 57:24
  Hey,
• 57:24
  thanks
• 57:24
  for
• 57:25
  being
• 57:25
  here.
• 57:26
  Really
• 57:26
  didn't
• 57:26
  care
• 57:26
  about
• 57:27
  your
• 57:27
  book.
• 57:27
  Like
• 57:27
  I
• 57:28
  really,
• 57:28
  really,
• 57:29
  really
• 57:29
  enjoyed
• 57:30
  the
• 57:30
  book
• 57:30
  and
• 57:31
  he's.
• 57:32
  I
• 57:32
  didn't
• 57:33
  say
• 57:33
  it
• 57:34
  as
• 57:34
  smoothly
• 57:34
  as
• 57:34
  I
• 57:35
  wanted
• 57:35
  to,
• 57:35
  but
• 57:35
  literally
• 57:36
  only
• 57:36
  somebody
• 57:37
  that's
• 57:37
  been
• 57:37
  writing
• 57:37
  about
• 57:38
  baseball
• 57:38
  for
• 57:39
  30
• 57:39
  plus
• 57:40
  years
• 57:40
  can
• 57:41
  write
• 57:41
  something
• 57:42
  as,
• 57:42
  as
• 57:43
  smooth
• 57:43
  and
• 57:43
  understated
• 57:44
  and
• 57:44
  as
• 57:45
  nuanced
• 57:46
  as
• 57:46
  this
• 57:46
  book
• 57:47
  is.
• 57:47
  So
• 57:48
  big
• 57:48
  hats
• 57:49
  off
• 57:49
  to
• 57:49
  Tim.
• 57:49
  Big
• 57:49
  thank
• 57:49
  you
• 57:50
  to
• 57:50
  Tim.
• 57:50
  Big
• 57:51
  thank
• 57:51
  you
• 57:51
  to
• 57:51
  Joe
• 57:51
  the
• 57:51
  publicist.
• 57:52
  If
• 57:52
  she's
• 57:52
  listening
• 57:53
  to
• 57:53
  this,
• 57:53
  she's
• 57:54
  been
• 57:54
  awesome.
• 57:54
  I
• 57:55
  hope,
• 57:56
  hope
• 57:56
  we
• 57:56
  can,
• 57:56
  we
• 57:57
  can
• 57:57
  work
• 57:57
  with
• 57:57
  her
• 57:57
  again
• 57:57
  in
• 57:58
  the
• 57:58
  future.
• 57:58
  But
• 57:59
  Scott,
• 58:00
  you
• 58:00
  know
• 58:01
  who
• 58:01
  we
• 58:01
  work
• 58:01
  with
• 58:01
  now.
• 58:03
  I
• 58:04
  do
• 58:04
  know
• 58:04
  and
• 58:05
  I
• 58:05
  was
• 58:05
  gonna
• 58:05
  say,
• 58:06
  you
• 58:06
  know
• 58:06
  our
• 58:07
  friend
• 58:08
  Reed
• 58:08
  Ryan.
• 58:09
  Not
• 58:09
  our
• 58:09
  friend
• 58:10
  Nolan's
• 58:10
  son
• 58:11
  and
• 58:11
  would
• 58:12
  have
• 58:12
  been
• 58:12
  our
• 58:12
  friend,
• 58:12
  probably
• 58:13
  close
• 58:13
  personal
• 58:13
  friend.
• 58:14
  He'll
• 58:14
  be
• 58:14
  on
• 58:14
  the
• 58:14
  pod
• 58:14
  soon.
• 58:16
  I
• 58:16
  was
• 58:16
  thinking
• 58:16
  about
• 58:17
  what
• 58:17
  Reed
• 58:17
  Ryan
• 58:18
  should
• 58:18
  get
• 58:18
  for
• 58:18
  Nolan
• 58:19
  for.
• 58:20
  Yeah.
• 58:21
  So
• 58:21
  again,
• 58:22
  yeah,
• 58:22
  Reed's
• 58:23
  winning
• 58:23
  strategy
• 58:24
  for
• 58:24
  a
• 58:24
  Father's
• 58:25
  Day
• 58:25
  gift
• 58:25
  for
• 58:26
  the
• 58:26
  Last
• 58:27
  Cowboy
• 58:27
  as
• 58:28
  we
• 58:28
  refer
• 58:28
  to
• 58:28
  him
• 58:28
  as.
• 58:29
  And
• 58:30
  that
• 58:30
  would
• 58:30
  be
• 58:31
  from
• 58:31
  our
• 58:31
  good
• 58:31
  friends
• 58:32
  over
• 58:32
  at
• 58:32
  Sterling
• 58:33
  Roastery
• 58:35
  and
• 58:35
  Sterling
• 58:35
  Soap.
• 58:36
  And
• 58:37
  if
• 58:37
  you
• 58:37
  haven't
• 58:37
  checked
• 58:38
  them
• 58:38
  out
• 58:38
  yet,
• 58:38
  they're
• 58:39
  online@sterlingsoap.com
• 58:41
  and
• 58:41
  that's
• 58:41
  s
• 58:42
  t
• 58:42
  I
• 58:43
  r
• 58:43
  l
• 58:44
  I
• 58:44
  n
• 58:45
  g
• 58:45
  soap.com
• 58:46
  and
• 58:46
  they've
• 58:46
  got
• 58:47
  tons
• 58:47
  of
• 58:48
  great
• 58:48
  stuff.
• 58:48
  But
• 58:48
  the
• 58:49
  other
• 58:49
  thing
• 58:49
  that's
• 58:49
  there,
• 58:50
  again,
• 58:50
  you
• 58:50
  look
• 58:51
  at
• 58:51
  Sterling
• 58:51
  Soap,
• 58:52
  but
• 58:52
  they
• 58:52
  also
• 58:52
  have
• 58:52
  the
• 58:52
  Roastery
• 58:53
  side
• 58:53
  of
• 58:53
  it
• 58:53
  where
• 58:54
  they're
• 58:54
  selling
• 58:54
  coffee.
• 58:55
  And
• 58:55
  I
• 58:55
  just
• 58:55
  feel
• 58:55
  like
• 58:56
  Nolan's.
• 58:57
  They're
• 58:58
  gonna
• 58:58
  go
• 58:58
  ahead
• 58:58
  subscription
• 58:59
  now.
• 58:59
  Yes,
• 58:59
  that's
• 59:00
  right.
• 59:00
  And
• 59:00
  that's
• 59:00
  exactly
• 59:01
  what
• 59:01
  Reed
• 59:02
  should
• 59:02
  do
• 59:02
  for
• 59:02
  Nolan.
• 59:03
  And
• 59:03
  I
• 59:03
  think
• 59:04
  I
• 59:04
  may
• 59:04
  even
• 59:04
  do
• 59:04
  that
• 59:04
  for
• 59:05
  my
• 59:05
  dad,
• 59:06
  who's
• 59:06
  a
• 59:06
  coffee
• 59:07
  drinker.
• 59:07
  I'm.
• 59:08
  I'm
• 59:08
  constantly
• 59:08
  battling
• 59:09
  coffee,
• 59:10
  but
• 59:10
  nonetheless,
• 59:11
  I
• 59:11
  was
• 59:11
  drinking
• 59:11
  it
• 59:11
  all
• 59:12
  day
• 59:12
  to
• 59:12
  day,
• 59:12
  day,
• 59:12
  and
• 59:12
  I
• 59:12
  was
• 59:13
  just
• 59:13
  thinking
• 59:14
  about
• 59:15
  Tim
• 59:15
  Brown.
• 59:15
  Well,
• 59:16
  I
• 59:16
  don't
• 59:16
  know
• 59:16
  what
• 59:16
  Amy
• 59:17
  bought
• 59:18
  here
• 59:18
  for
• 59:18
  me,
• 59:18
  but
• 59:19
  I
• 59:19
  would
• 59:19
  have
• 59:19
  to
• 59:20
  think
• 59:20
  that
• 59:20
  Sterling
• 59:21
  Roastery
• 59:22
  was
• 59:22
  going
• 59:22
  to
• 59:22
  be
• 59:22
  better
• 59:23
  than.
• 59:23
  Than
• 59:23
  the
• 59:24
  Folgers
• 59:24
  or
• 59:24
  Mat.
• 59:24
  Well,
• 59:25
  here's
• 59:25
  the
• 59:25
  thing.
• 59:25
  It
• 59:25
  shows
• 59:26
  up
• 59:26
  first
• 59:26
  of
• 59:26
  the
• 59:26
  month.
• 59:27
  It's
• 59:27
  there.
• 59:28
  Yes.
• 59:28
  Every
• 59:29
  two
• 59:29
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• 59:29
  It's
• 59:29
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• 59:30
  You
• 59:30
  don't
• 59:30
  have
• 59:30
  to
• 59:30
  think
• 59:30
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• 59:30
  it.
• 59:31
  Think
• 59:31
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• 59:31
  it.
• 59:31
  Delicious
• 59:32
  coffee
• 59:32
  straight
• 59:32
  to
• 59:32
  your
• 59:32
  door.
• 59:33
  Yeah.
• 59:34
  This
• 59:34
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• 59:34
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• 59:35
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• 59:35
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• 59:35
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• 59:35
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• 59:35
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• 59:35
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• 59:35
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• 59:36
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• 59:36
  And
• 59:37
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• 59:37
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• 59:37
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• 59:38
  You
• 59:38
  know,
• 59:38
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• 59:38
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• 59:38
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• 59:38
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• 59:39
  You
• 59:39
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• 59:39
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• 59:39
  A
• 59:39
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• 59:40
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• 59:40
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• 59:41
  Hulu
• 59:42
  or
• 59:42
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• 59:42
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• 59:42
  that,
• 59:42
  and
• 59:43
  then
• 59:43
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• 59:43
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• 59:43
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• 59:44
  Hulu
• 59:44
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• 59:44
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• 59:44
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• 59:44
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• 59:45
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• 59:45
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• 59:45
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• 59:45
  for
• 59:45
  it
• 59:45
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• 59:45
  eight
• 59:46
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• 59:46
  Well,
• 59:46
  guess
• 59:47
  what?
• 59:47
  The
• 59:47
  coffee's
• 59:48
  there.
• 59:48
  It's
• 59:48
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• 59:48
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• 59:49
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• 59:49
  You're
• 59:49
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• 59:49
  You're
• 59:50
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• 59:50
  drink
• 59:50
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• 59:50
  Yes.
• 59:51
  And
• 59:51
  you're
• 59:51
  gonna
• 59:51
  gift
• 59:52
  it.
• 59:52
  It's
• 59:53
  an
• 59:53
  amazing
• 59:53
  idea
• 59:54
  for
• 59:54
  a
• 59:54
  Father's
• 59:54
  Day.
• 59:55
  In
• 59:55
  fact,
• 59:56
  Derek,
• 59:56
  I
• 59:56
  was
• 59:56
  thinking
• 59:57
  maybe
• 59:58
  you
• 59:58
  should
• 59:58
  suggest
• 59:59
  this
• 59:59
  to
• 59:59
  my
• 59:59
  children,
• 1:00:00
  you
• 1:00:01
  know,
• 1:00:01
  and
• 1:00:01
  that
• 1:00:01
  way,
• 1:00:02
  because
• 1:00:02
  if
• 1:00:02
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• 1:00:02
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• 1:00:03
  from
• 1:00:03
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• 1:00:03
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• 1:00:03
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• 1:00:03
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• 1:00:03
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• 1:00:04
  like,
• 1:00:04
  no,
• 1:00:04
  we're
• 1:00:04
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• 1:00:04
  getting
• 1:00:05
  him
• 1:00:05
  that.
• 1:00:05
  Let's
• 1:00:05
  get
• 1:00:06
  him
• 1:00:06
  socks.
• 1:00:06
  The
• 1:00:06
  problem
• 1:00:07
  is,
• 1:00:07
  is
• 1:00:07
  when
• 1:00:07
  I
• 1:00:07
  walk
• 1:00:08
  into
• 1:00:08
  your
• 1:00:08
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• 1:00:09
  they
• 1:00:09
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• 1:00:09
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• 1:00:09
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• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:10
  eyes
• 1:00:11
  and
• 1:00:11
  disappear.
• 1:00:12
  Because.
• 1:00:12
  Because
• 1:00:12
  they
• 1:00:12
  know
• 1:00:12
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• 1:00:13
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• 1:00:13
  about
• 1:00:13
  to
• 1:00:13
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• 1:00:13
  about
• 1:00:13
  Barry
• 1:00:14
  Larkin
• 1:00:14
  for
• 1:00:14
  an
• 1:00:15
  hour.
• 1:00:15
  And
• 1:00:15
  who
• 1:00:15
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• 1:00:15
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• 1:00:15
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• 1:00:16
  to
• 1:00:16
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• 1:00:17
  In
• 1:00:17
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• 1:00:17
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• 1:00:18
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• 1:00:18
  hopefully
• 1:00:18
  the
• 1:00:18
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• 1:00:19
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• 1:00:19
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• 1:00:19
  podcast.
• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:21
  And
• 1:00:21
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• 1:00:21
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• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:22
  Soap
• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:23
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:24
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• 1:00:25
  Is
• 1:00:25
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• 1:00:26
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• 1:00:27
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• 1:00:27
  morning,
• 1:00:28
  Dylan,
• 1:00:29
  my
• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:30
  child,
• 1:00:30
  you're.
• 1:00:31
  You're
• 1:00:31
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• 1:00:31
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:32
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• 1:00:33
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• 1:00:33
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• 1:00:33
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• 1:00:33
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• 1:00:33
  But
• 1:00:34
  Dylan
• 1:00:34
  said,
• 1:00:35
  hey,
• 1:00:35
  dad,
• 1:00:37
  got
• 1:00:37
  someone
• 1:00:37
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• 1:00:38
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• 1:00:38
  me.
• 1:00:40
  Birthday
• 1:00:40
  coming
• 1:00:40
  up.
• 1:00:41
  Who
• 1:00:41
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• 1:00:42
  you
• 1:00:42
  know
• 1:00:42
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• 1:00:42
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• 1:00:42
  best
• 1:00:43
  at
• 1:00:43
  gift
• 1:00:43
  giving?
• 1:00:44
  And
• 1:00:45
  she
• 1:00:45
  said.
• 1:00:46
  And
• 1:00:46
  then
• 1:00:46
  she
• 1:00:46
  went,
• 1:00:47
  but,
• 1:00:47
  like,
• 1:00:48
  besides
• 1:00:48
  Derek.
• 1:00:49
  And
• 1:00:50
  I
• 1:00:50
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• 1:00:50
  I
• 1:00:51
  said,
• 1:00:51
  why?
• 1:00:52
  Why
• 1:00:52
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• 1:00:53
  Derek?
• 1:00:53
  And
• 1:00:54
  she
• 1:00:54
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• 1:00:54
  well,
• 1:00:55
  it's
• 1:00:55
  almost
• 1:00:55
  like
• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:56
  all
• 1:00:56
  are
• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:57
  same
• 1:00:57
  person.
• 1:00:58
  And
• 1:00:59
  that
• 1:01:00
  probably
• 1:01:00
  makes
• 1:01:00
  it
• 1:01:01
  really
• 1:01:01
  easy
• 1:01:01
  for
• 1:01:01
  you
• 1:01:02
  to
• 1:01:02
  buy
• 1:01:02
  and
• 1:01:02
  for
• 1:01:02
  him
• 1:01:03
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• 1:01:03
  buy
• 1:01:03
  or
• 1:01:03
  whatever.
• 1:01:03
  And
• 1:01:04
  I
• 1:01:04
  was
• 1:01:04
  like,
• 1:01:04
  you're
• 1:01:04
  right.
• 1:01:04
  I
• 1:01:05
  said
• 1:01:05
  it's
• 1:01:05
  super
• 1:01:05
  easy.
• 1:01:06
  Because
• 1:01:07
  she
• 1:01:07
  said,
• 1:01:07
  yeah,
• 1:01:07
  I
• 1:01:07
  know.
• 1:01:08
  You
• 1:01:08
  just
• 1:01:08
  buy
• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:08
  of
• 1:01:09
  something,
• 1:01:09
  right?
• 1:01:09
  And
• 1:01:09
  I
• 1:01:10
  was
• 1:01:10
  like,
• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:10
  pretty
• 1:01:10
  much
• 1:01:11
  what
• 1:01:11
  it
• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:11
  down
• 1:01:11
  to
• 1:01:12
  probably.
• 1:01:13
  But
• 1:01:13
  anyways,
• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:14
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• 1:01:15
  some
• 1:01:15
  other
• 1:01:15
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:16
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:21
  you
• 1:01:21
  go
• 1:01:21
  about
• 1:01:21
  it
• 1:01:21
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• 1:01:21
  whatever.
• 1:01:22
  But
• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:24
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• 1:01:24
  this
• 1:01:24
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• 1:01:24
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:25
  This
• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:26
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• 1:01:26
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• 1:01:26
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• 1:01:27
  Father's
• 1:01:27
  Day.
• 1:01:27
  It
• 1:01:27
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• 1:01:28
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• 1:01:28
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• 1:01:28
  And
• 1:01:29
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• 1:01:30
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• 1:01:30
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• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:32
  No,
• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:33
  Well,
• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:37
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• 1:01:37
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• 1:01:37
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• 1:01:37
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• 1:01:37
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:39
  Day,
• 1:01:39
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• 1:01:39
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• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:42
  Probably
• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:44
  Mother's
• 1:01:44
  Day
• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:44
  year.
• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:49
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• 1:01:49
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• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:50
  sterling
• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:52
  Shave
• 1:01:53
  lotions.
• 1:01:54
  No
• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:54
  Scott.
• 1:01:55
  Look
• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:56
  No
• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:57
  Golly.
• 1:01:57
  Just
• 1:01:58
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• 1:01:58
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• 1:01:58
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• 1:01:59
  That's
• 1:01:59
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• 1:01:59
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• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:01
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• 1:02:01
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• 1:02:01
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• 1:02:01
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:10
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• 1:02:11
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• 1:02:11
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• 1:02:12
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• 1:02:12
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• 1:02:12
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• 1:02:13
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• 1:02:15
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• 1:02:17
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• 1:02:17
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• 1:02:17
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• 1:02:18
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• 1:02:19
  Scott,
• 1:02:20
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• 1:02:20
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• 1:02:20
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• 1:02:20
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• 1:02:20
  next?
• 1:02:21
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• 1:02:21
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• 1:02:21
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• 1:02:21
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• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:22
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• 1:02:23
  Yeah,
• 1:02:24
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• 1:02:24
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• 1:02:24
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• 1:02:25
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• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:27
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• 1:02:28
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• 1:02:28
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• 1:02:28
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• 1:02:28
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• 1:02:28
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• 1:02:29
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• 1:02:29
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• 1:02:29
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• 1:02:30
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• 1:02:30
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• 1:02:30
  going
• 1:02:31
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• 1:02:31
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• 1:02:31
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• 1:02:31
  It
• 1:02:31
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• 1:02:32
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• 1:02:32
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• 1:02:32
  Scott.
• 1:02:33
  It
• 1:02:33
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• 1:02:33
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• 1:02:34
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• 1:02:34
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• 1:02:34
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• 1:02:35
  It
• 1:02:35
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• 1:02:36
  Brian
• 1:02:36
  Adams
• 1:02:36
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:38
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:39
  to
• 1:02:40
  George
• 1:02:40
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• 1:02:41
  and
• 1:02:42
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• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:44
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• 1:02:44
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• 1:02:44
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• 1:02:45
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• 1:02:45
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• 1:02:45
  happened
• 1:02:45
  in
• 1:02:46
  1990.
• 1:02:47
  We've
• 1:02:47
  also
• 1:02:47
  got
• 1:02:47
  one
• 1:02:48
  of
• 1:02:48
  the
• 1:02:48
  more
• 1:02:48
  monumental
• 1:02:49
  major
• 1:02:50
  league
• 1:02:50
  baseball
• 1:02:50
  trades.
• 1:02:52
  Yeah.
• 1:02:52
  From
• 1:02:52
  our
• 1:02:52
  childhood.
• 1:02:53
  When
• 1:02:53
  I
• 1:02:53
  think
• 1:02:53
  back
• 1:02:54
  about
• 1:02:54
  big
• 1:02:54
  trades
• 1:02:55
  that
• 1:02:55
  occurred
• 1:02:56
  in
• 1:02:57
  the
• 1:02:57
  90s
• 1:02:57
  that
• 1:02:58
  really
• 1:02:58
  kind
• 1:02:58
  of
• 1:02:58
  rocked,
• 1:02:59
  Scott.
• 1:03:01
  Yeah,
• 1:03:02
  you've
• 1:03:02
  got
• 1:03:02
  Robbie
• 1:03:03
  alomar
• 1:03:04
  and
• 1:03:04
  Fred
• 1:03:04
  McGriff
• 1:03:05
  and
• 1:03:05
  Joe
• 1:03:06
  Carter
• 1:03:06
  and
• 1:03:07
  the
• 1:03:07
  great
• 1:03:07
  Tony
• 1:03:07
  Fernandez
• 1:03:08
  all
• 1:03:08
  in
• 1:03:09
  one
• 1:03:09
  trade.
• 1:03:09
  And
• 1:03:10
  I
• 1:03:10
  just
• 1:03:10
  remember
• 1:03:10
  thinking
• 1:03:11
  like
• 1:03:11
  what?
• 1:03:12
  Just
• 1:03:12
  jaw
• 1:03:13
  dropped
• 1:03:13
  when
• 1:03:13
  that
• 1:03:14
  happened
• 1:03:14
  as
• 1:03:14
  a
• 1:03:14
  kid.
• 1:03:14
  It's
• 1:03:15
  a
• 1:03:15
  good
• 1:03:15
  old
• 1:03:15
  fashioned
• 1:03:16
  baseball
• 1:03:16
  trade.
• 1:03:16
  Yeah.
• 1:03:17
  Let's
• 1:03:17
  just
• 1:03:17
  Swap
• 1:03:17
  stars.
• 1:03:18
  You
• 1:03:18
  know,
• 1:03:18
  this
• 1:03:18
  isn't
• 1:03:19
  a
• 1:03:19
  star
• 1:03:19
  for
• 1:03:20
  a
• 1:03:20
  bucket
• 1:03:20
  of
• 1:03:20
  prospects.
• 1:03:21
  This
• 1:03:21
  was
• 1:03:21
  just
• 1:03:22
  swapping
• 1:03:22
  stars.
• 1:03:23
  And
• 1:03:23
  I
• 1:03:23
  thought
• 1:03:23
  that
• 1:03:23
  was
• 1:03:24
  hall
• 1:03:24
  of.
• 1:03:24
  Famers,
• 1:03:24
  no
• 1:03:25
  less
• 1:03:25
  in
• 1:03:25
  there.
• 1:03:25
  Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  Including
• 1:03:27
  one
• 1:03:27
  of
• 1:03:27
  the
• 1:03:27
  GMs.
• 1:03:28
  That
• 1:03:28
  really
• 1:03:28
  made
• 1:03:28
  it
• 1:03:28
  happen
• 1:03:29
  as
• 1:03:29
  a
• 1:03:29
  Hall
• 1:03:29
  of
• 1:03:29
  Famer.
• 1:03:30
  We're,
• 1:03:30
  we're
• 1:03:30
  also
• 1:03:31
  probably
• 1:03:31
  going
• 1:03:31
  to
• 1:03:31
  do
• 1:03:31
  the
• 1:03:32
  Griffey
• 1:03:32
  Jr.
• 1:03:33
  Griffey
• 1:03:33
  Senior
• 1:03:33
  back
• 1:03:33
  to
• 1:03:34
  back
• 1:03:34
  homer
• 1:03:34
  game.
• 1:03:35
  That's
• 1:03:35
  got
• 1:03:35
  a
• 1:03:36
  super,
• 1:03:36
  a
• 1:03:37
  sterling,
• 1:03:39
  a
• 1:03:39
  sterling
• 1:03:40
  copy
• 1:03:40
  on
• 1:03:40
  YouTube
• 1:03:41
  which
• 1:03:41
  Randy
• 1:03:42
  Johnson
• 1:03:42
  started
• 1:03:43
  that
• 1:03:43
  game.
• 1:03:43
  Yeah.
• 1:03:44
  Both
• 1:03:44
  of
• 1:03:44
  us
• 1:03:44
  were
• 1:03:44
  kind
• 1:03:45
  of
• 1:03:45
  floored
• 1:03:45
  by.
• 1:03:45
  But
• 1:03:46
  anyway,
• 1:03:47
  Scott,
• 1:03:48
  it's
• 1:03:49
  what
• 1:03:49
  a
• 1:03:49
  we.
• 1:03:50
  We
• 1:03:50
  had
• 1:03:50
  this
• 1:03:50
  thing
• 1:03:51
  circled
• 1:03:51
  in
• 1:03:53
  deep
• 1:03:53
  red
• 1:03:53
  on
• 1:03:54
  our
• 1:03:54
  calendar
• 1:03:55
  and
• 1:03:55
  it,
• 1:03:56
  it
• 1:03:56
  always,
• 1:03:56
  it's
• 1:03:57
  just
• 1:03:57
  like
• 1:03:58
  Alan
• 1:03:58
  Chipnut.
• 1:03:59
  Better
• 1:03:59
  than
• 1:04:00
  advertised.
• 1:04:00
  Yes,
• 1:04:01
  no
• 1:04:01
  doubt,
• 1:04:01
  no
• 1:04:01
  doubt.
• 1:04:02
  What
• 1:04:02
  a
• 1:04:02
  great
• 1:04:02
  guy,
• 1:04:02
  Tim
• 1:04:03
  Brown.
• 1:04:03
  And
• 1:04:03
  again,
• 1:04:03
  big
• 1:04:04
  thanks
• 1:04:04
  to
• 1:04:04
  him
• 1:04:04
  for
• 1:04:04
  coming
• 1:04:05
  on
• 1:04:05
  joining
• 1:04:05
  us.
• 1:04:06
  Please
• 1:04:06
  go
• 1:04:07
  get
• 1:04:07
  the
• 1:04:07
  book,
• 1:04:07
  Give
• 1:04:08
  it
• 1:04:08
  to
• 1:04:08
  your
• 1:04:08
  dad.
• 1:04:09
  Yeah,
• 1:04:09
  go
• 1:04:09
  buy
• 1:04:09
  the
• 1:04:09
  book,
• 1:04:10
  give
• 1:04:10
  it
• 1:04:10
  to
• 1:04:10
  your
• 1:04:10
  dad,
• 1:04:10
  give
• 1:04:11
  it
• 1:04:11
  to
• 1:04:11
  your
• 1:04:11
  kids.
• 1:04:11
  Exactly.
• 1:04:12
  Yes.
• 1:04:13
  It's
• 1:04:13
  a
• 1:04:13
  great
• 1:04:13
  book.
• 1:04:14
  I'm
• 1:04:14
  looking
• 1:04:14
  forward
• 1:04:14
  to
• 1:04:14
  finishing
• 1:04:15
  it.
• 1:04:15
  And
• 1:04:17
  again
• 1:04:17
  I'm
• 1:04:18
  really
• 1:04:18
  looking
• 1:04:18
  forward
• 1:04:18
  to
• 1:04:18
  getting
• 1:04:18
  Tim
• 1:04:19
  back
• 1:04:19
  on
• 1:04:19
  at
• 1:04:19
  other
• 1:04:19
  times
• 1:04:20
  because
• 1:04:20
  we
• 1:04:20
  do
• 1:04:21
  have
• 1:04:21
  some
• 1:04:21
  more
• 1:04:21
  moments
• 1:04:22
  coming
• 1:04:22
  up
• 1:04:22
  that
• 1:04:22
  could
• 1:04:22
  tie
• 1:04:23
  directly
• 1:04:23
  to
• 1:04:23
  him.
• 1:04:24
  I
• 1:04:24
  think
• 1:04:24
  I'm
• 1:04:24
  gonna
• 1:04:25
  start,
• 1:04:25
  I'm
• 1:04:25
  gonna
• 1:04:25
  go
• 1:04:25
  down.
• 1:04:25
  There
• 1:04:26
  was
• 1:04:26
  90s
• 1:04:27
  and
• 1:04:27
  Jim
• 1:04:27
  Abbott,
• 1:04:28
  I
• 1:04:28
  mean
• 1:04:28
  he's
• 1:04:28
  gonna
• 1:04:29
  have
• 1:04:29
  a
• 1:04:29
  big
• 1:04:29
  moment
• 1:04:30
  with
• 1:04:30
  the
• 1:04:30
  New
• 1:04:30
  York
• 1:04:30
  Yankees
• 1:04:31
  here
• 1:04:31
  in
• 1:04:31
  a
• 1:04:31
  few.
• 1:04:31
  You
• 1:04:32
  know,
• 1:04:32
  that's
• 1:04:32
  true
• 1:04:32
  too,
• 1:04:33
  looking
• 1:04:33
  at
• 1:04:33
  the
• 1:04:33
  90s.
• 1:04:34
  So
• 1:04:34
  I
• 1:04:34
  think
• 1:04:35
  it
• 1:04:35
  would
• 1:04:35
  be
• 1:04:35
  phenomenal.
• 1:04:36
  To
• 1:04:36
  get
• 1:04:36
  him
• 1:04:36
  back
• 1:04:37
  on
• 1:04:38
  Bingo
• 1:04:38
  Bango.
• 1:04:38
  I
• 1:04:39
  didn't
• 1:04:39
  think
• 1:04:39
  about
• 1:04:39
  that.
• 1:04:40
  Definitely.
• 1:04:41
  Well,
• 1:04:41
  that's
• 1:04:42
  probably
• 1:04:42
  going
• 1:04:42
  to
• 1:04:42
  do
• 1:04:42
  it
• 1:04:43
  for
• 1:04:43
  this
• 1:04:43
  one.
• 1:04:43
  Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  Until
• 1:04:44
  next
• 1:04:45
  time,
• 1:04:45
  Scott.
• 1:04:46
  I
• 1:04:46
  appreciate
• 1:04:47
  everything,
• 1:04:47
  buddy.
• 1:04:48
  Awesome.
• 1:04:48
  You
• 1:04:48
  too,
• 1:04:48
  buddy.
• 1:04:49
  Thanks.