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UK Column News — 10th July 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Friday, the tenth of July twenty twenty six,
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Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Colin News. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host Mike Rumson. Joining me in this studio today
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Speaker 1: is Basil Valentine. Welcome to the program. Basil, you no letter.
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Speaker 1: In the program, we'll have a report from Ran by
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Speaker 1: Patrick Henningson, will be joined by Professor David Miller to
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Speaker 1: discuss the passing of the National Security State Threats Act,
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Speaker 1: and we'll be reporting on the prosecution of anyone sharing
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Speaker 1: material from Russia today in Germany. But we're going to
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Speaker 1: begin today with the NATO summit, and now the summit
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Speaker 1: concluded on Wednesday with a very short declaration. The key
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Speaker 1: points included a reaffirmation of Article five. They restated what
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Speaker 1: they said were ironclad commitments to collective defense and the
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Speaker 1: Transatlantic Bond, trying to shore up the relationship with Trump
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Speaker 1: with a continued three hundred and sixty degree approach to
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Speaker 1: the terrence and defense and maybe we'll find out what
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Speaker 1: that means. In a second they claimed one hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty nine billion spending increase that we mentioned on Wednesday's
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Speaker 1: program was mentioned again. European Allies in Canada raised core
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Speaker 1: defense investment by more than one hundred and thirty nine
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Speaker 1: billion and twenty twenty five, delivering on the Hague defense commitment.
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Speaker 1: They said, so fifty billion dollars sorry, and new procurements
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Speaker 1: announced plus commitments to expand collective manufacturing capacity and accelerate
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Speaker 1: innovation with industry defense trade barriers being on the target list.
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Speaker 1: So they are going to work to eliminate these barriers
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Speaker 1: and make sure that Europe in particular can buy even
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Speaker 1: more stuff from the United States. Perhaps now Europe claims
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Speaker 1: is going to take greater responsibility. They said they are
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Speaker 1: going to take a larger share of alliance defense on
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Speaker 1: a modernized alliance, and they mentioned the new capability priorities
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Speaker 1: for example, deep precisions, strike integrate Aaron, missile defense on
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Speaker 1: crude systems, and intelligence capabilities including AI. And they say
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Speaker 1: that they are developing an interopera interoperable warfighting Clyde and
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Speaker 1: adopting powerful AI models. They then pledged seventy billion euros
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Speaker 1: for Ukraine for twenty twenty six to cover military equipment,
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Speaker 1: assistance and training, with sovereign commitments to at least equivalent
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Speaker 1: levels in twenty twenty seven. Europe of course is now
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Speaker 1: funding or providing most of the money to Ukraine at
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Speaker 1: this point in time. And then they also talked about
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Speaker 1: multi year funding via the Ukraine Support Loan, and they
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Speaker 1: were talking about it, were suggesting that Iran must never
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Speaker 1: have a nuclear weapon, because of course you can't have
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Speaker 1: a declaration without discussing around these days. And they called
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Speaker 1: on Tehran to respect the freedom and navigation in the
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Speaker 1: streets of Homers. So that's a quick summary of the
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Speaker 1: of the declaration. But Basil joining you and I is
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Speaker 1: author and geopolitical analyst Pele neroth Tiller.
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Speaker 2: Over do you, thanks, Mike, Well, it sounds a sort
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Speaker 2: of rather anodyne statement, really, this final communicate. But hidden
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Speaker 2: beneath these generalizations and the sort of same old phrasing
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Speaker 2: we've heard a thousand times are actually some very dangerous subtexts.
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Speaker 2: Ply near Taylor, Swedish yeo political analyst joining me. Now
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Speaker 2: we're dancing on a knife edge here, aren't we, Peery.
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Speaker 2: The reality of the situation is that Ukraine could be
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Speaker 2: launching hundreds of high powered missiles missiles into Russia, missiles
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Speaker 2: manufactured in Western Europe in the not too Distant Future.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for inviting on the show. It's incredibly hard
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Speaker 3: to pass the propaganda from the reality and the psychological
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Speaker 3: warfare played by both sides. You know, the Ukrainians have
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Speaker 3: certainly been firing a lot of long range missiles into
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Speaker 3: Russia itself, and they've been taking out all refineries apparently,
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Speaker 3: sources I respect in Moscow say that like one hour
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Speaker 3: cues at petrol stations, and that's probably the biggest thing
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Speaker 3: that said, the normal Russians have ever seen from this war,
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Speaker 3: you know, so far, they've been pretty inure to it.
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Speaker 3: And Putin is under pressure from his hardliners, and most
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Speaker 3: Russians think he's far too soft on the Ukrainians. And
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Speaker 3: we're worried, and Basil, you and I have been worried
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Speaker 3: for it for years about the sort of trans Ferdinand moment.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we live in this continuity bias, idea that
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Speaker 3: because nothing's happened, because the Russians haven't escalated or counter
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Speaker 3: escalated before, and because the young golden youth of London
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Speaker 3: are sitting bank side nicking beers in the thirty five
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Speaker 3: degree heat and with no fears in the world except
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Speaker 3: you know, how to pay the next rent becaulse suddenly
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Speaker 3: all be engulfed in the war after some transferdinand moment,
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Speaker 3: some sudden strike, some sudden event will force everyone into
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Speaker 3: a rapid series of escalations and counter escalation. So that's
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Speaker 3: always the worry. And I think the Russians are genuinely
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Speaker 3: neuralgic about these long range missiles. When it happened in
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, when Biden was on his way out,
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Speaker 3: they were firing attackers and the British were firing their
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Speaker 3: storm shadows. The Russians responded with a Rishnik attack. That's
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Speaker 3: this hypersonic missile, the tear drop whatever you want, the
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Speaker 3: hazel drop into somewhere in Ukraine, and it really sort
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Speaker 3: of startled NATO, and I think they stopped for a while,
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Speaker 3: and Trump said, I'm not going to accept attackers, you know,
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Speaker 3: on my watch. I mean, I think he's more wise
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Speaker 3: to the fears of nuclear escalation. He's not as dumb
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Speaker 3: as he seems to many. Tucker Carson, whom I trust
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Speaker 3: and I think holds our views. He's like oh Man
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Speaker 3: in Washington in a way. He talks to trun quite
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Speaker 3: a lot, and he says he knows exactly what's going on,
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Speaker 3: and he's very fearful of a nuclear war, but he
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Speaker 3: is under huge pressure from his Hawks and from the Europeans.
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Speaker 3: So whilst he stopped the attack, I think he banned
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Speaker 3: attacks from these attackers. The British have been firing their
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Speaker 3: storm shadows. They facilitated the manufacture I think the Ukrainian
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Speaker 3: Flamingo missile, and that's made some strikes. And of course
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Speaker 3: there are things like this, the strike against the Russian
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Speaker 3: tried last year, the attempted assassination of Putin in Valdai
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Speaker 3: in December, and I mean, I think the British are
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Speaker 3: driving much of this. I actually go against the sort
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Speaker 3: of aut media received wisdom that the Americans and Trump
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Speaker 3: are responsible for everything. I think Trump was actually trying
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Speaker 3: to hold back. And actually, if I can just plug
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Speaker 3: my book, if you look at the diplomacy of World
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Speaker 3: War One, the Americans were desperately trying to broak her
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Speaker 3: peace and their allies were the Germans just I think
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Speaker 3: their allies are like the Russians, and it was the
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Speaker 3: British and the French who wouldn't stop fighting, and basically
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Speaker 3: they ad manipulated the Americans and got their victory by
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Speaker 3: dragging in the Americans into World War One, and that
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Speaker 3: by stoking up the German hardliners. And that's what exactly.
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Speaker 3: It was almost like a playbook fear of what's going
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Speaker 3: to happen now. In other words, the British are going
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Speaker 3: to continue to sponsor the Ukrainians, and the Ukrainian hard
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Speaker 3: lineers continue to find the most neuralgic point for the Russians,
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Speaker 3: which I think is these long range missile strikes and
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Speaker 3: the promise, I don't know how much of it is
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Speaker 3: a promise so much as a reality of possibly hundreds
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Speaker 3: of missiles landing in very sensitive Russian points, in civilian
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Speaker 3: areas and places like oil refineries, and that might embolden
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Speaker 3: the hard liners in Russia to escalate. But I mean,
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Speaker 3: where's where's the reality, Where where's the sensibility in that?
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Speaker 3: Because I'm like World War One, which is bad enough
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Speaker 3: four to over one hundred years ago, we're now at
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Speaker 3: we now have a material that can end civilized I
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Speaker 3: mean World War One destroyed Western civilization, but this is
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Speaker 3: literally going to destroy life on Earth. So if there
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Speaker 3: are hawks in Western Europe and they'd exist to think
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Speaker 3: that NATO installations or NATO factories to produced these missiles,
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Speaker 3: perhaps in the UK, perhaps in the Baltics, and they
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Speaker 3: think they can control the escalation, and they think that
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Speaker 3: they'll be a minor escalation will get the Russians to
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Speaker 3: be the enemies of the whole world and get the
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Speaker 3: Americans to drag in stronger support, humiliate and embarrassed Trump
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Speaker 3: into supporting the Europeans. I think it's a miscalculation. I
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Speaker 3: just don't know how clever they are, and even if
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Speaker 3: it's carefully calibrated, it could easily spin out of control.
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Speaker 3: And that's why I think it's probably a good idea
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Speaker 3: to cry wolf. I mean, I'll take responsibility for crying
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Speaker 3: wolf and saying and being alarmist while all the youngsters
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Speaker 3: out drinking beer and not worried that we're sitting on
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Speaker 3: these podcasts saying, you know, walk would break out at
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Speaker 3: any moment. I don't think we could break out at
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Speaker 3: any moment, but escalation could happen at any moment. I mean,
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Speaker 3: and accidents happen just like that. And I don't know
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Speaker 3: what the risk is. Even if it's just ten percent,
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Speaker 3: it's worth warning about. And I think that all the
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Speaker 3: alternative media who have contacts in Moscow. I don't have
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Speaker 3: been flashing red for the last couple of weeks. And
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Speaker 3: we have one guest on our show, John Helmer, who's
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Speaker 3: an old Moscow hand. He sinks he thinks nothing's going
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Speaker 3: to happen, and I hope he's right. And he said
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Speaker 3: he thinks it's just these alarmists are being fed aligned
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Speaker 3: by the Russian Foreign Ministry because they're playing political warfare
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Speaker 3: game as well, you know, but so that we're actually
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Speaker 3: in a less dangerous position than we thought we were.
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Speaker 3: So I just don't know. I think that we're in
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Speaker 3: a game where a couple of short, small numbers of
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Speaker 3: people who are completely invested in this war and who
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Speaker 3: won't suffer they didn't have skin in the game. I mean,
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Speaker 3: they're risking their reputations, but not their lives, or their
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Speaker 3: lives or their relatives. If you're sitting in London or Washington,
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Speaker 3: you've got lots of countries between you and Russia. Literally
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Speaker 3: you can get after you've used the Ukrainians as meat,
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Speaker 3: you can use the Swedes as meat, you know, or
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Speaker 3: the Poles or something. And that's the thing. I mean,
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Speaker 3: don't believe that these NATO guys care about Ukrainian lives.
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Speaker 3: Obviously they don't because hundreds of thousands of them being
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Speaker 3: press ganged at this moment, which is why we've even
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Speaker 3: had the protests in Levov, which is a very pro
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Speaker 3: nationalist area Ukraine.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 3: And I'm wondering whether that's actually going to be the
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Speaker 3: beginning of the end of the Zelenski regime because these
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Speaker 3: these bussification these you've see these press gang videos, people
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Speaker 3: being bundled into minivans to their certain deaths a couple
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Speaker 3: of weeks later, when they've had that inadequate training. The
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Speaker 3: Ukrainians see these videos as well, and Sodental I just
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Speaker 3: want to say something. We hear a lot about these
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Speaker 3: Russian mass deaths, you know, I mean, the propaganda war
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Speaker 3: is played out on the casualty figures game. But I mean,
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Speaker 3: as far as I can tell, there are no Russian
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Speaker 3: videos of bussifications. I don't think the Russians are being
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Speaker 3: press gang. So I mean, what does that tell you
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Speaker 3: if the Ukrainian has been press gang the videos of
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Speaker 3: that and perhaps the beginnings of the revolt series revolt
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Speaker 3: against Zelenski against that, and you don't hear anything from
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Speaker 3: the Russian side so yeah, sorry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sorry, pell I just would like to just
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Speaker 1: ask one question here, because obviously they were part of
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Speaker 1: this declaration that were talking about spending, and Trump's narrative
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Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen, in fact, has been criticism of the
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Speaker 1: Europeans with respect to the amount of money that they're
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Speaker 1: spending on defense, and of course he wants them mainly
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Speaker 1: to spend money on defense in the United States, which
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Speaker 1: is why part of this declaration is talking about the
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Speaker 1: removal of trade barriers so called. But the bottom line
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Speaker 1: here though is, and maybe this is the only thing
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Speaker 1: that sort of in a sense reduces the risk of escalation,
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Speaker 1: is that European countries, the United Kingdom, we don't have
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Speaker 1: any money, so that they're creating potentially this global defense
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Speaker 1: back to try to create the money out of nothing.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is the money isn't there. And the
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Speaker 1: question is will the British taxpayer or the European taxpayer
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Speaker 1: be prepared for more deaficit spending and more austerity in
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Speaker 1: other areas just to support an establishment desire to keep
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Speaker 1: banging a poking sticks at the bear.
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Speaker 3: Obviously, Yeah, I mean I don't know so much about
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Speaker 3: the finance. I mean obviously, I mean people talking about
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Speaker 3: you can't stop the people coming across in Dinghy's, how
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Speaker 3: are you going to stop the Russians? You know, what
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Speaker 3: fantasy world are you living in? The most people, I
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Speaker 3: am far more concerned about sort of domestic invasion issues.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that explains the rise of reform and there's
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Speaker 3: no money in the bank, and people seldom talk about
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Speaker 3: the fact that's the Russian energy that leads to the
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Speaker 3: UK having the highest energy prices in the world. So
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Speaker 3: Russian energy is cut off by us. We cut off
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Speaker 3: our own sort off our own branch there. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: there's a domestic, massive domestic opposition to it. But I
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Speaker 3: mean here they are, they're trying there successfully. I think
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Speaker 3: I don't know who's behind the attempt to destroy Farage,
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Speaker 3: where there's a genuine a story that the Sunday Times leaked,
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Speaker 3: whether it's just a sort of concoction, and then the media,
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Speaker 3: the six adjacent media just fanning the flames, and then
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Speaker 3: this this ridiculous bin guy is also part of some
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Speaker 3: kind of deep state semi comic operation, you know, against Faraj.
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Speaker 3: But so the point is, I mean, every time the
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Speaker 3: opposition to war rises, they might find some way of
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Speaker 3: squelching it because they have all the leaders of power.
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Speaker 3: I mean, don't forget. In World War One there was
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Speaker 3: a massive opposition to the war, even in the cabinet,
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Speaker 3: but the cabinet were kept out of it. But the
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Speaker 3: five Security Ministry is held by people like Winston Churchill.
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Speaker 3: They had all the power and all the information. And
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Speaker 3: ditto Iraq War. I remember maybe you guys also demonstrated
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Speaker 3: that huge demonstration in London, two million people marched. That
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Speaker 3: had zero effect because Tony Blair, who had to look
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Speaker 3: up Afghanistan on Wikipedia when the war happened, he knew nothing,
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Speaker 3: and his cronies managed to make this war happen. So
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Speaker 3: I really worry. I mean, there's no doubt or just
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Speaker 3: World War two, I mean and World War One and
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Speaker 3: World War two. The Americans were promised, no, we went
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Speaker 3: to get our boys to fight in the foreign war.
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Speaker 3: Wilson said that in nineteen sixteen he was elected Americans
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Speaker 3: in war. Three months later Roosevelt ditto. I mean, he said,
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Speaker 3: we're not going to send up boys to foreign war.
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Speaker 3: And they're also dragged in that r reational male was
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Speaker 3: ninety five percent against war. The Americans really didn't want
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Speaker 3: to fight to war, but they didn't really the people
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Speaker 3: we're still not living in democracies for eighty years of advances,
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Speaker 3: as it were. When it comes to this thing, the
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Speaker 3: most dangerous thing of all, that democracies can enter into war,
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Speaker 3: it's incredible. I mean, there's no we have referendums, we
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Speaker 3: have legislation covering size of widgets coming from Brussels and
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Speaker 3: things like that, which is frustrating to narcissistic politicians, but
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Speaker 3: then can declare war with on a whim almost I
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Speaker 3: don't know if the rules have been updated for Britain.
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Speaker 3: It used to be all you needed was a couple
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Speaker 3: of Privy Council We're going to war. Yeah, yes, yeah.
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Speaker 3: So your question is, I don't trust our elites one bit.
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Speaker 3: I think they can get us into war, especially if
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Speaker 3: they're in position is threatened you.
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Speaker 1: Know, yes, yes, okay, go to war in.
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Speaker 3: Danger sort of thing and then unite the country that way.
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Speaker 3: So I think, what's one thing I think that what
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Speaker 3: worries me is that the British, for instance, have a super
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Speaker 3: the brilliant psychological proper game, a psychological warfare, a deception operations,
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Speaker 3: and a compliant media but they don't have a military,
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Speaker 3: so what's what's their game? Is it to start a
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Speaker 3: war and then get the Americans to fight it? I mean,
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Speaker 3: was that their modus operande? How did they plan ahead
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Speaker 3: while they'd stoked the conflict and started it? What were
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Speaker 3: they going to do next? I just don't know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good point, indeed, Yeah, thank you very much,
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Speaker 2: indeed for joining us today. Taylor host of Uncovered on
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Speaker 2: YouTube along with Martin c.
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Speaker 1: And we'll have links to Pella's work in the show notes.
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Speaker 1: So thank you, Pelo. Okay, let's move on. Then, I
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Speaker 1: had Tola Ali Pameni's body was buried yesterday at the
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Speaker 1: Reza Shrine in Mashad. That's his birthplace, and that was
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Speaker 1: alongside for family members killed with them on the during
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Speaker 1: the twentieth of February strike by the United States. Snyer's
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Speaker 1: coffin was carried through park streets. Have we been talking
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Speaker 1: on Wednesday with Vanessa. It was then flown by helicopter
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Speaker 1: for the final part of the journey because crowds were
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Speaker 1: blocking the route. Now. The burial came at the end
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Speaker 1: of a week of processions through Tehran, KLM, Najaf and
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Speaker 1: Kabala and with Iranian estimates putting attendance about fifteen million people,
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Speaker 1: and of course that was absolutely echoed by some Western
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Speaker 1: media as well, including the Financial Times. Mourners were chanting
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Speaker 1: threats against Trump, but his successor his son was absent.
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Speaker 1: He's had made no public appearance since being wounded in
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Speaker 1: the strike that killed his father. As you will know
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Speaker 1: from Wednesday's program, Patrick Hennison is in Iran at the
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Speaker 1: moment interdact connectivity from Iran is not good enough for
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Speaker 1: live connection. But he sentenced this report.
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Speaker 5: I just wanted to do this kind of quick message
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Speaker 5: to explain to you the situation here. It's developing by
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Speaker 5: the minute. So as you guys may have heard, the
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Speaker 5: United States has basically leveled a massive wave of airstrikes
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Speaker 5: against Iran, and Iran has retaliated and has hit the
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Speaker 5: fifth fleet in Bahrain. Most of the US targets are
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Speaker 5: in the south Chabahar, Banda or bars Conrak, so.
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Speaker 4: Those are clearly strategic.
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Speaker 5: The US is clearly trying to weaken Iran's management of
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Speaker 5: the trade of warmouse. Okay, doing this gradually over time,
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Speaker 5: that's my assessment of it.
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Speaker 4: As well.
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Speaker 5: We spoke last night to the Ibraham Azizi.
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Speaker 4: He is the.
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Speaker 5: Parliamentary chair of the National Security and Foreign Policy Council.
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Speaker 5: So we had a press conference last night where I
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Speaker 5: and other international journalists were able to ask questions to
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Speaker 5: him about this situation and others. So, and this is
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Speaker 5: going on right now. I'm in the Holy City of
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Speaker 5: Mashad here in the northern sort of part of Iran.
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Speaker 5: And so this is the final event of the state
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Speaker 5: funeral six day procession for the Ayatola. The Supreme Leader said,
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Speaker 5: Ali Hamene, this his final resting place.
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Speaker 4: This is his hometown.
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Speaker 5: Behind me, as you can see as the holy shrine
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Speaker 5: and millions of people are gathering here. This is the
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Speaker 5: second largest city in Iran. But the airstrikes, US air
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Speaker 5: strikes are expecting more. We spoke to Ibrahim is easy
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Speaker 5: about the situation. Official position, at least from the parliamentary
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Speaker 5: point of view, I would assume this is a consensus
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Speaker 5: is that there's no expectation that the US would ever
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Speaker 5: fulfill its obligations.
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Speaker 4: In the MoU.
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Speaker 5: So the memorandum understanding or this ceasefire is is now finished, unfortunately,
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Speaker 5: so they're back to war again.
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Speaker 4: That's basically it.
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Speaker 5: You might see some toing and froing, but the Iranian
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Speaker 5: position is pretty clear. They don't expect the United States
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Speaker 5: is going to honor any agreement. They're ready to continue
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Speaker 5: with negotiations. They always have an open door policy, but
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Speaker 5: of course they're you know, not expecting the United States
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Speaker 5: are going to be playing fair.
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Speaker 4: I mean, that's their position. And I think the.
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Speaker 5: US record of you know, attacking negotiators and sabotaging various
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Speaker 5: deals at various stages with Israel, I think that's pretty
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Speaker 5: clear that that Iranian assessment is well warranted. That's just
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Speaker 5: the facts, you know. It's not even my judgment, although
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Speaker 5: I happen to think that's the case. That's coming from
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Speaker 5: the National Security and Foreign Policy Council of the Iranian
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Speaker 5: Parliament just last night, so we can report that, among
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Speaker 5: among other details. But there's also reports that some of
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Speaker 5: the train line has been don image. We came here
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Speaker 5: by train to Mashad from Tehran overnight, so very long
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Speaker 5: train journey, twelve hours. It's it's debatable whether we're going
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Speaker 5: to be able to get that train back if reports
20:13
Speaker 5: are correct, or authorities are still assessing the damage.
20:17
Speaker 4: So meanwhile, so this is meanwhile this national event is.
20:22
Speaker 5: Going on, and there have been over well over twenty
20:26
Speaker 5: million people that have already attended, well over twenty million
20:30
Speaker 5: they have already attended various parts of this six day ceremony,
20:34
Speaker 5: and we're gonna have many, many millions, as you can
20:36
Speaker 5: see gathering in Mashad here.
20:39
Speaker 4: There's been a little delayed for this morning ceremony because
20:41
Speaker 4: of travel.
20:43
Speaker 5: The remains are being brought from najaf In, Iraq, so
20:47
Speaker 5: the late leader, his remains were brought to najaff In,
20:51
Speaker 5: Iraq and back to Iran again and this is the
20:55
Speaker 5: final event, as.
20:57
Speaker 4: It were, so it'll be.
20:58
Speaker 5: The atmosphere here is just incredible, a mixture of mourning,
21:03
Speaker 5: a lot of heavy emotions, a lot of defiance, especially
21:07
Speaker 5: now at the backdrop in the United States restarting the
21:10
Speaker 5: war the US, of course, Trump is gonna blame it on.
21:14
Speaker 4: The Iranians, but I mean.
21:18
Speaker 5: The US has violated pretty much the MLU on every level,
21:21
Speaker 5: including this move. They tried to pull with Israel to
21:25
Speaker 5: create a legitimacy of Israel's illegal occupation of South Lebanon.
21:30
Speaker 5: That was a violation of Clause one of the Memorandum Understanding.
21:35
Speaker 5: So you know, the deal was kind of dead at
21:38
Speaker 5: that point for all intents and purposes. And now with
21:42
Speaker 5: the US launching these strikes, and of course the US
21:44
Speaker 5: is upset because Iran retaliated, So the US launched eighty
21:50
Speaker 5: targets and Iran hit them back with eighty five targets,
21:53
Speaker 5: and the Iran has said, We're going to basically match
21:56
Speaker 5: and put extra on top of whatever you're going to
22:01
Speaker 5: do to us. So is this sustainable? Where is this
22:04
Speaker 5: going to go? Who knows. In the meantime, the nation
22:07
Speaker 5: is absolutely at least a substantial portion of the nation,
22:13
Speaker 5: which you can visibly see out on the streets, and
22:16
Speaker 5: at these events. This is going to be I don't
22:19
Speaker 5: know how many millions of people be here today, but
22:21
Speaker 5: this is the second largest city in Iran. But this
22:25
Speaker 5: is only going to I think, codify and consolidate and
22:30
Speaker 5: create more resilience and solidarity amongst Iranians, but also the
22:36
Speaker 5: global Sheiite community as well as Muslims, Sunni as well,
22:43
Speaker 5: many of now in solidarity with Iran because they're being
22:46
Speaker 5: attacked by the United States and because of what the
22:50
Speaker 5: Trump administration in Israel are doing. So you have to
22:53
Speaker 5: remember this is all for a supreme leader that ruled
22:58
Speaker 5: for thirty seven years, not ruled, but lead, I would say,
23:01
Speaker 5: lead for thirty seven years. And he was assassinated. He
23:06
Speaker 5: was killed by the Americans and the Iranians.
23:09
Speaker 4: So this is a beloved national historical figure.
23:13
Speaker 5: And the US didn't give any reason or there's no
23:15
Speaker 5: real justification of course for the assassination. And this is
23:21
Speaker 5: the final day of that. This massive ceremony you've seen
23:25
Speaker 5: clips from Tehran.
23:27
Speaker 4: I was there, unbelievable.
23:29
Speaker 5: Even the Financial Times reported upwards of fifteen million fifteen
23:35
Speaker 5: million came out in Tehran for the funeral processions.
23:39
Speaker 4: Think about that.
23:40
Speaker 5: The population of Tehran is a megatropolis, is only.
23:43
Speaker 4: Twelve million, so we were there.
23:46
Speaker 5: You'd probably see some of my videos on Instagram and
23:49
Speaker 5: x so anyway, that's the situation. I just want to
23:52
Speaker 5: give this quick update for UK column viewers.
23:56
Speaker 4: So this is for the UK column and thank you
24:00
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24:02
Speaker 5: For also are posting our other interview with Bush or
24:06
Speaker 5: Sheik which we just filmed recently as well. So anyway,
24:11
Speaker 5: I hope to bring you more updates. Keep an eye
24:13
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24:15
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24:28
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24:32
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26:50
Speaker 1: and the National Security States Bill. Because it's now an
26:52
Speaker 1: act rushed through in a couple of weeks, it represents
26:58
Speaker 1: a major step in the emerging dictatorship we're currently living
27:04
Speaker 1: under in this country. Now journalists risk terror prosecutions. That's
27:10
Speaker 1: what seems to be going on for routine news gathering.
27:14
Speaker 1: The new offenses would criminalize anyone who supports, assists, or
27:18
Speaker 1: obtains material benefit from a designated body. And of course
27:22
Speaker 1: what a designated body is is up to the Home
27:25
Speaker 1: Secretary and the definition of that is really broad. And
27:31
Speaker 1: because material benefits include information, according to the Act, a
27:35
Speaker 1: journalist interviewing someone from within a designated group or obtaining
27:39
Speaker 1: materials from a designated group would fall fill of the law.
27:44
Speaker 1: Ministers argue that prosecutions would require the Attorney General's approval
27:48
Speaker 1: and would only proceed in the public interest. But the
27:52
Speaker 1: what is again, what is the definition of the public
27:54
Speaker 1: interest And would the Attorney General be any kind of
27:57
Speaker 1: limitation on the Home secretaries desires anyway? Unlikely? Then, of course,
28:04
Speaker 1: the Act confers broad designation parts on a single minister
28:09
Speaker 1: of the Home Secretary with limited checks and balances. KG
28:12
Speaker 1: International is warning that it grants the Home Secretary unchecked
28:16
Speaker 1: designation parts with no judicial oversight. And of course we
28:19
Speaker 1: have the usual thing with modern legislation, and that's the vague,
28:23
Speaker 1: undefined language and the vague definitions of foreign power, threat
28:28
Speaker 1: activity and expressing support are likely to be weaponized to
28:32
Speaker 1: further constrain the right to protest. Of course, there's uncertainty.
28:37
Speaker 1: There's the fourteen year sentences that are potentially going to
28:40
Speaker 1: be dolled out, which is going to all encourage self censorship.
28:44
Speaker 1: It's going to stem the flow of information that it
28:47
Speaker 1: might contradict government's preferred narrative. And of course is the
28:50
Speaker 1: issue of the speed that it went through Parliament. And
28:53
Speaker 1: this is really key because the first reading was on
28:55
Speaker 1: the ninth of June and royal assent was received on
28:58
Speaker 1: the eighth of July, almost but not quite unprecedented. I'm
29:02
Speaker 1: going to highlight three other dictatorial acts which come to mind.
29:05
Speaker 1: The Coronavirus Act was passed in just four days. Even worse,
29:09
Speaker 1: the Date Retention and Investigatory pars Act twenty fourteen went
29:13
Speaker 1: from introduction to royal ascent in three days, and the
29:16
Speaker 1: Criminal Justice Bracket's Terrorism and Conspiracy Act nineteen ninety eight
29:20
Speaker 1: passed through, which was passed after the Oma bombing in
29:23
Speaker 1: Northern Ireland cleared all stages in two days.
29:26
Speaker 4: Now.
29:27
Speaker 1: That last one is particularly relevant because the government used
29:30
Speaker 1: a two day emergency timetable driven by public outrage over
29:34
Speaker 1: in atrocity the past provisions that had almost nothing to
29:37
Speaker 1: do with the atrocity itself and had previously failed to
29:41
Speaker 1: attract any parliamentary support. My personal belief is that the
29:45
Speaker 1: Oma bombing was a British run false flag. At the
29:48
Speaker 1: very least, the confusion over the location of the bomb
29:50
Speaker 1: on the day and the evacuation of people by police
29:54
Speaker 1: into the blast radius provided exactly the outrage that the
29:57
Speaker 1: British state needed to get the Criminal Justice Act on
30:00
Speaker 1: And of course here we are with the cynical use
30:03
Speaker 1: of famed attacks on Jewish communities being used to justify
30:06
Speaker 1: the timetable for this letist legislation joined made to discuss
30:10
Speaker 1: this is Professor David Miller, and welcome to the program. David.
30:14
Speaker 1: I'd be interested, first of all in your initial reaction
30:16
Speaker 1: to the fact that this legislation is even on the
30:19
Speaker 1: statute books at this point.
30:22
Speaker 6: Well, this is a piece of legislation which, as you say,
30:25
Speaker 6: has been rushed through, but it's been rushed through after
30:30
Speaker 6: a previous piece of legislation in twenty twenty three, the
30:34
Speaker 6: National Security Act was put on the statute books. And
30:36
Speaker 6: it looks to me like what's happened here is that
30:39
Speaker 6: they have realized that the National Security Act is not
30:43
Speaker 6: sufficient for their needs. And their needs are that they
30:47
Speaker 6: lock up large numbers of people who are willing to
30:50
Speaker 6: stand up against genocide, and so they they've had to
30:53
Speaker 6: find a way to extend the powers that existed in
30:56
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty three Act. And that, of course, is
31:00
Speaker 6: this nonsense about making use of information which has some
31:06
Speaker 6: kind of value. Now, of course, how they're going to
31:09
Speaker 6: distill determine what is the value of a piece of information.
31:13
Speaker 6: If I go to the Casa Brigades or to the
31:17
Speaker 6: Hamas's Health Ministry and I say how many people have
31:20
Speaker 6: died in Gaza in the last month, Now does that
31:24
Speaker 6: information have value for me or for Hamas? And therefore
31:30
Speaker 6: does that make that an offense? Now? Of course that
31:33
Speaker 6: is manifestly ridiculous, And of course it would criminalize all
31:36
Speaker 6: journalism which wanted to access the views of organizations which
31:42
Speaker 6: might be designated, which would be presumably as of Fiat
31:48
Speaker 6: prescribed terrorist organizations, but also any other organizations which they
31:53
Speaker 6: would designate, and of course we know what organizations they
31:56
Speaker 6: will under this. First of them will be the HIGHERGC,
32:00
Speaker 6: the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Core in Iran. So this is
32:04
Speaker 6: an attempt to make sure that people cannot properly report
32:09
Speaker 6: what's happening in Iran and of course the wider genocide
32:12
Speaker 6: in Palestine. And they're doing this because their previous piece
32:15
Speaker 6: of legislation was unable to do that. And I logistic
32:19
Speaker 6: spend a minute on that previous piece of legislation, because
32:22
Speaker 6: you'll recall it that legislation introduced a new register for
32:27
Speaker 6: foreign agents and that if you were acting as a
32:30
Speaker 6: foreign agent you had to register on their piece of
32:35
Speaker 6: paper or that would be an offense. And in pursue
32:39
Speaker 6: and of that, the Home Office wrote to the studio
32:42
Speaker 6: where we used to produce our show, Palastandi Classified, and
32:45
Speaker 6: said we think that you should be registered and we
32:48
Speaker 6: want you to tell us if you should be registered
32:51
Speaker 6: or not. So of course the studio were black said well,
32:53
Speaker 6: this is ridiculous. We're not working for the Islamic Republic
32:58
Speaker 6: of Iran. And then in the letter of the specifically
33:00
Speaker 6: mentioned our show and of course, our show, although it
33:03
Speaker 6: is broadcast on PRESTV, is not produced by the Islamic
33:07
Speaker 6: Republic of Iran. It's not produced at the direction of
33:09
Speaker 6: in the sense that we have full editorial control over
33:11
Speaker 6: what goes on on it. And so what happened then
33:14
Speaker 6: was our show was removed from the studios. Still producing
33:17
Speaker 6: our show independently outside the studio have been every week
33:22
Speaker 6: since then. But it looks to me that what's happened
33:26
Speaker 6: then is that the Home officers realized that they're not
33:28
Speaker 6: going to be able to put me in, Chris Williamson
33:31
Speaker 6: in jail, and indeed many others as a result of
33:34
Speaker 6: this piece of legislation. So they've got to find another way.
33:36
Speaker 6: And the other way, of course, is to say, well,
33:38
Speaker 6: if you take any information at all from PRESTV or
33:42
Speaker 6: the Islamic public, or from Perstonian lamage I HAD or
33:48
Speaker 6: is BLAD, then that will be an offense. You could
33:50
Speaker 6: go to jail. For now, I'm skeptical about the potential
33:54
Speaker 6: for the success of this. Let me say one word
33:56
Speaker 6: about that, or two words about that before I finished.
34:00
Speaker 6: Remember that the offense of supporting a terrorist organization was
34:04
Speaker 6: introduced in the two thousand Terrorism Act, and the government
34:09
Speaker 6: have been unable to have very many effective prosecutions in
34:14
Speaker 6: that because, of course, the intent of the Act was
34:17
Speaker 6: that it would stop people from whipping up support which
34:20
Speaker 6: might result in recruitment to quote terrorist organizations. Now, of course,
34:26
Speaker 6: when people say you're supporting a terrorist organization in Lebanon
34:32
Speaker 6: or in Palestine, well, that was never intended in the
34:34
Speaker 6: two thousand Act to be part of the discussion, because
34:39
Speaker 6: the two thousand Terrorists Map, of course, only related to
34:41
Speaker 6: organizations which did organize in the United Kingdom, including of
34:45
Speaker 6: course most obviously the provisional Ira. But since then, of course,
34:50
Speaker 6: the designation of prescribed terrorist organizations has expanded and expanded,
34:54
Speaker 6: including of course the bin collectors and school teachers and
34:58
Speaker 6: doctors who work for ministries Palestinian ministries in Gaza who
35:02
Speaker 6: are now designated to be terrorists. So the idea that
35:07
Speaker 6: we are in saying that the genocide should stop, that
35:11
Speaker 6: we are supporting a terrorist organization has a certain logic
35:15
Speaker 6: in their mind. But of course no one is suggesting
35:18
Speaker 6: that we set up the Casambrigades, a British branch of
35:21
Speaker 6: the Cassambrigades, or the hismolash to start recruiting in South London,
35:25
Speaker 6: and so of course the legislation is is not fit
35:28
Speaker 6: for purpose. It's not there's no real possibility that people
35:32
Speaker 6: in this country are actually calling for support for and
35:35
Speaker 6: recruitment for terrorist organizations. So what they did then, because
35:38
Speaker 6: they weren't able to actually throw people in jail because
35:41
Speaker 6: of this, was that in the twenty and sixteen I
35:44
Speaker 6: think it was what's it called the twenty nineties Orry,
35:49
Speaker 6: the counter Terrorism and Border Security Act, they added a
35:52
Speaker 6: phrase that it wasn't just about supporting or inviting support
35:57
Speaker 6: for a terrorist organization, but also expressed an opinion which
36:01
Speaker 6: recklessly could invite or support. Because of course they weren't
36:06
Speaker 6: able to get convictions, and that was an attempt to
36:09
Speaker 6: get more convictions, and that's failed as well. That hardly
36:11
Speaker 6: anyone's being set to jail for those offenses, and so
36:14
Speaker 6: of course since then we've seen the Paws in action fiasco,
36:17
Speaker 6: and that's what's behind this legislation. I think the an
36:19
Speaker 6: attempt to further and further erode the liberties that we
36:25
Speaker 6: previously had in order to put people in jail and
36:27
Speaker 6: to stop them posing the genocide. But I don't believe
36:30
Speaker 6: it's likely to work because it's the definitional question is
36:34
Speaker 6: going to be far too tricky for them to get
36:35
Speaker 6: over in a court of law.
36:38
Speaker 1: And David, you know, the question then is how should
36:41
Speaker 1: people react to this? It is too late to do
36:43
Speaker 1: it and think about it, because you know, in the
36:45
Speaker 1: course of the various debates, if you could call those debates,
36:50
Speaker 1: there was some discussion about this being actually only a
36:54
Speaker 1: median step, that they were looking for something much broader
36:57
Speaker 1: to follow.
36:59
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think that as with the previous legislation,
37:02
Speaker 6: people have got to be fully aware of what the
37:05
Speaker 6: legislation says, what that means, and what it's intended to do,
37:10
Speaker 6: and of course what it's intended to do is far
37:12
Speaker 6: broader than what it actually says, so and I think
37:17
Speaker 6: in that vein that it's possible for people to actually
37:20
Speaker 6: to understand what it is that they're trying to do
37:21
Speaker 6: here and for people to keep clear of it, because
37:24
Speaker 6: you know, it's perfectly possible to talk in general terms
37:28
Speaker 6: about supporting resistance the right of the Palace, saying people
37:31
Speaker 6: to resist under international law, including armed struggle that isn't illegal,
37:36
Speaker 6: but whereas supporting a specific organization which is prescribed is illegal.
37:41
Speaker 6: So there are obviously ways in which you can oppose
37:44
Speaker 6: this and think through what it is you can say
37:47
Speaker 6: as a result of it. And of course part of
37:50
Speaker 6: that effort will involve the attempt to bring down and
37:54
Speaker 6: reverse this legislation, which is not sustainable.
37:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, David, thank you very much for that. We will
38:01
Speaker 1: obviously keep reporting on this. I mean, what do you
38:05
Speaker 1: what are you personally going to do to deal with
38:09
Speaker 1: with the minutes It's going to cause you any direct
38:12
Speaker 1: limited problems at this stage.
38:14
Speaker 6: Well, I mean with the last legislation just a few
38:17
Speaker 6: weeks ago, was that they had us. If it is
38:20
Speaker 6: from our studio, we continue to produce the show. We
38:23
Speaker 6: will continue to produce the show. They won't be able
38:25
Speaker 6: to stop that, and even the new legislation will not
38:28
Speaker 6: be able to stop that. It's a sledgehammer which is
38:31
Speaker 6: not going to crack the knot. And afraid so we'll
38:33
Speaker 6: continue to do what we've been doing, reporting on the genocide,
38:37
Speaker 6: on Zis genocide and Zionist expansionism. Uh, and I don't
38:40
Speaker 6: believe they'll be able to stop us.
38:42
Speaker 4: Brilliant.
38:43
Speaker 1: Thank you for that, David. Thank you. So we'll keep
38:45
Speaker 1: every pub body posted on how this develops, Basil, let's
38:49
Speaker 1: move on to you now, and well, scandal at the
38:53
Speaker 1: World Cup.
38:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not just scandal, Mike. It really is turning
38:57
Speaker 2: into a bit of a mess for Rago on many levels.
39:01
Speaker 2: I mean, before the tournament even started, Scotland supporters suddenly
39:05
Speaker 2: found their visas being revoked, and of course there was
39:09
Speaker 2: a disgraceful situation with the Somalian referee, best referee in Africa.
39:14
Speaker 2: He was denied entry and then they made it as
39:16
Speaker 2: difficult as they could for the Iranians. They had travel
39:18
Speaker 2: in and out of Mexico all the way up to
39:21
Speaker 2: Seattle and back for their matches. But the one that's
39:25
Speaker 2: really put the tin lid on it is Donald Trump
39:29
Speaker 2: getting the red card for American striker all again rescinded. Now,
39:34
Speaker 2: this is absolutely unprecedented. There is no appeals process against
39:41
Speaker 2: red or yellow cards at the World Cup. Of course
39:44
Speaker 2: there is in the ordinary domestics season because they are
39:48
Speaker 2: longer gaps between matches. It's not the end of the world.
39:51
Speaker 2: If somebody misses a match or two it's time to appeal.
39:54
Speaker 2: But at a World Cup it would be chaos because
39:58
Speaker 2: there would be just endless appe and then counter appeals,
40:01
Speaker 2: so they just don't have an appeals process.
40:04
Speaker 1: So that didn't stop Donald Trump.
40:07
Speaker 2: He got in touch with Infantino, which translates as infantile,
40:14
Speaker 2: and got this American striker's red card rescinded so that
40:21
Speaker 2: he could play against Belgium. Now this has crossed a
40:24
Speaker 2: red line according to UIFA, the Union of European Football Associations,
40:30
Speaker 2: which is a distinct body from FIFA, the world organization,
40:35
Speaker 2: and it is seventy two members of the European Parliament
40:38
Speaker 2: feel motivated enough to have written to twenty seven of
40:42
Speaker 2: the European Football Associations urging them to demand a formal
40:46
Speaker 2: FIFA investigation into the decision to overturn following Balogun's World
40:51
Speaker 2: Cup suspension. And he claims that Donald Trump's political interference
40:55
Speaker 2: breached FIFA's own rules on neutrality. And indeed, this whole
41:01
Speaker 2: question of neutrality when it comes to refereeing has very
41:06
Speaker 2: much been at the forefront. Will come onto that in
41:09
Speaker 2: a moment with respect to the Argentina the Egypt match.
41:14
Speaker 2: But first here is former Majester United in England fullback
41:18
Speaker 2: Gary Neville, now a Sky Sports pundit, commenting on the
41:22
Speaker 2: Baligan red card rescinding.
41:26
Speaker 7: I should be crying, but I'm laughing. Wow, what do
41:32
Speaker 7: you say to that? He rang up somebody at FIFA
41:35
Speaker 7: and ask them to change their mind and law and
41:36
Speaker 7: behold an independent committee, then change their mind. Look, it's
41:42
Speaker 7: a stain on FIFA, it's a stain on the tournament.
41:45
Speaker 7: It stinks.
41:46
Speaker 2: Actually, just to say staying on the tournament, I mean
41:50
Speaker 2: as are the I saw dozens of empty seats at
41:54
Speaker 2: last night's match between France and Morocco, which is unprecedented
41:57
Speaker 2: for a World Cup. That's another stay in because the
42:00
Speaker 2: charge ridiculous amounts of money that nobody can afford, hundreds,
42:04
Speaker 2: if not thousands of dollars. In fact, the most expensive
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Speaker 2: ticket being sold on the Exchange website for the World
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Speaker 2: Cup Fire or Mike, is eleven and a half million dollars. Yes,
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Speaker 2: one ticket to the World Cup final. Several tickets being
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Speaker 2: touted for millions, and the best seat eleven million dollars. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: the Iranian President Massu Pezeshkian has quite rightly pointed out
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Speaker 2: that the US government's conduct as World Cup host follows
42:35
Speaker 2: its familiar foreign policy, bending rules, bullying rivals, creating obstacles
42:40
Speaker 2: and cheating. This is the mega playbook. Iran rejects such games.
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Speaker 2: We stand family firmly for our rights and the case
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Speaker 2: in point being, as I mentioned a moment ago Argentina
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Speaker 2: v Egypt. Egypt went toil ahead in spite of having
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Speaker 2: had one goal disallowed in controversial circumstances. But it wasn't
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Speaker 2: just that disallowed goal, and there were lots of other
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Speaker 2: incidents throughout the match which certainly appeared to favor Argentina
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Speaker 2: and in a way that influenced the outcome. Now, Mark
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Speaker 2: Goldbridge is one of the most popular commentators on YouTube
43:23
Speaker 2: on football, generally quite a level headed chap, even if
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Speaker 2: he does support Manchester United, and this was his take
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Speaker 2: on the match.
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Speaker 8: No doubt that there was controversy around Argentina's win over Egypt.
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Speaker 8: It just depends on which side of the fence you sit. Look,
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Speaker 8: I've taken time, which I think is always important to
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Speaker 8: assess the situation. I've looked at all the clips and
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Speaker 8: I don't want to believe that Argentina are getting favored
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Speaker 8: in this World Cup. Some people believe they got favored
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Speaker 8: in the Gatari World Cup. But you look at the
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Speaker 8: game last night against Egypt and there is, in my opinion,
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Speaker 8: there is no gray area. You know, go back and
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Speaker 8: watch some of the clips about decisions that went against
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Speaker 8: Egypt that didn't go against Argentina, even simple things like
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Speaker 8: at the very end of the game where the Egypt
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Speaker 8: player gets booked for Litoro Martinez falling over his own feet,
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Speaker 8: the referees looking straight at it. That's just one incident.
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Speaker 8: There was another one where Salah gets fouled on the
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Speaker 8: edge of the box. Right on the edge of the box,
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Speaker 8: it's a free kick. Referee says play on. Yet multiple
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Speaker 8: free kicks were given to Messi for free kicks on
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Speaker 8: the edge of the box for the same thing. There
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Speaker 8: are loads and loads of examples from that game where
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Speaker 8: Egypt weren't getting fouls but Argentina got them for very
44:35
Speaker 8: simple things. Romero should have been booked. There was one
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Speaker 8: where a player got body checked, should have got booked,
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Speaker 8: but he booked somebody from the Egypt bench for complaining.
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Speaker 8: So there is, without doubt, loads the fingers have been
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Speaker 8: pointed at Argentina treatment being in their favor. I feel
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Speaker 8: so bad for Egypt because if this happens to your
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Speaker 8: country in the rest of the tournament, you'd be losing it.
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Speaker 8: It's only because Egypt. Maybe, wow, we thought Egypt would lose.
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Speaker 8: If that had happened to England last night, I think
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Speaker 8: there'd be a national outrage about it.
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Speaker 2: Per comment there from Mark Goldbridge. Now, all this prompted
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Speaker 2: conspiracy theories on the internet. On x and usually level
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Speaker 2: headed by some use of the Egyptian comedian highlighted the
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Speaker 2: Wikipedia page of the referee, Francois Latexier, pointing out that
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Speaker 2: he is apparently Jewish. Latexia was born in Brittany, northwestern France,
45:35
Speaker 2: to an orthodox Jewish family, apparently, and of course the
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Speaker 2: claim therefore being that he was biased against the Muslims
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Speaker 2: and in favor of the supposedly Zionist Argentines. But the
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Speaker 2: Jewish Chronicle quite rightly pointed out that the wikipage of
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Speaker 2: Latexia had been edited to make him Jewish immediately after
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Speaker 2: the game, as Egyptian fans blamed Zionism for Argentina's loss.
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Speaker 2: It's extraordinary stuff. This was altered after he came in
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Speaker 2: from criticism over a number of contentious calls during the
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Speaker 2: Round of sixteen match. As far as we know, he
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Speaker 2: isn't Jewish, so fair play to the Jewish Chronicle.
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Speaker 4: There.
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Speaker 2: On the other hand, Benjamin Netanya, who is a great
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Speaker 2: friend of Argentine President Milay and the superstar Lionel Messi,
46:29
Speaker 2: like gwise, an avowed Zionist. As you can see there
46:32
Speaker 2: he's with Netted Yahoo at the Whaling War. And of
46:36
Speaker 2: course it's long since been suspected that Milay and Milikovsky
46:42
Speaker 2: Benjamin Nettinya, whose original name, are in fact distant cousins. Mike,
46:48
Speaker 2: I don't know if you knew that. So the conspiracy
46:52
Speaker 2: theories go on, but I don't like personally seeing Nettinya,
46:58
Speaker 2: who sort of treated as an order football fan talking
47:01
Speaker 2: about who he supports the guys. A mass murderer has
47:04
Speaker 2: caused enormous amounts of suffering. He's a cruel sadist, and
47:08
Speaker 2: the most recent example is the absolutely heenous assassination of
47:14
Speaker 2: the Egyptian aid worker who had been bringing a little
47:18
Speaker 2: bit of joy to the beleaguered population of Gaza by
47:21
Speaker 2: organizing screenings of World Cup matches. What happened to him, well,
47:26
Speaker 2: of course he is Ray's having to murder him. As
47:28
Speaker 2: we can see now.
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Speaker 9: The man who set up these World Cup screenings in
47:33
Speaker 9: Gaza has been killed by an Israeli strike as fans
47:36
Speaker 9: across Garza gathered to watch Egypt play Argentina and is
47:39
Speaker 9: rarely blast hit a car nearby, killing Mohammad al Wahidi.
47:43
Speaker 9: He works for Egypt's aid relief branching Gars are handing
47:45
Speaker 9: out food and shelter to Palestinian Local offici will say
47:48
Speaker 9: three others were killed in the attack, a taxi driver
47:51
Speaker 9: and two brothers aged ten and eight, as well as
47:54
Speaker 9: military says Awahidi wasn't the target. It says it was
47:57
Speaker 9: aiming at a har Mass militant. Many Palestinians live across
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Speaker 9: board in Egypt, which was a key media tom that
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Speaker 9: Israel ha mass sees fire. The seas fire was agreed
48:05
Speaker 9: back in October, but local official state is really strikes have.
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Speaker 3: Killed more than a thousand people since.
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Speaker 9: Egypt's coach Hossam Hassan has used a tournament to spotlight Garza,
48:14
Speaker 9: waving a Palestinian flag after beating Australia and urging the
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Speaker 9: world to let them live a life of their own.
48:19
Speaker 9: Israel says it strikes target militants and that it regrets
48:22
Speaker 9: civilian deaths.
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Speaker 2: And if you believe that, I've got a bridge to
48:27
Speaker 2: sell you, Mike, as well as some shares in Goldfield
48:31
Speaker 2: in the Pennines.
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Speaker 1: Excellent. Okay, thank you for that, Basil.
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Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 1: Three people in Germany are fiting criminal proceedings for broadcasting
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Speaker 1: on several occasions videos from RT that's Rushia today. Do
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Speaker 1: you and me so if we bring this on screen?
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Speaker 1: This is from the Court, the Court of the Justice
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Speaker 1: of the European Union. And now the key point here
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Speaker 1: is that these were being put on a website accessible
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Speaker 1: to the public free of charge, and the court held
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Speaker 1: that it is irrelevant whether the broadcasting takes place in
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Speaker 1: the course of an economic activity. In other words, the
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Speaker 1: concept of an operator covers any person responsible directly or
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Speaker 1: indirectly from making prohibited content available, including non remunerated activity
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Speaker 1: or a website financed by voluntary third party contributions, and
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Speaker 1: the classification is dependent on neither on the extent nor
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Speaker 1: the duration of the broadcasting. That is what they're suggesting
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Speaker 1: are There are a couple of things to note here.
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Speaker 1: First is the term the use of the term broadcasting,
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Speaker 1: because by any normal definition, what these people were doing
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Speaker 1: was not broadcasting, which generally means linear transmission. For simultaneous
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Speaker 1: reception by the general public. But just as we've seen
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Speaker 1: with so much British legislation, the EU has intentionally made
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Speaker 1: its legal definition of the term so broad now has
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Speaker 1: a new meaning, or no meaning at all beyond whatever
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Speaker 1: it is that they wanted to mean anyway. The other
50:00
Speaker 1: thing is that this argument that the concept of an
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Speaker 1: operator includes someone hosting a website from their bedroom is
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Speaker 1: exactly the argument which advobmid to me in twenty fourteen
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Speaker 1: when they were attempting to force the UK con submit
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Speaker 1: to Offcom's regulatory regime at that time. I also have
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Speaker 1: not noticed the fact that the judgment goes against the
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Speaker 1: European Commission's un consolidated and frequently asked questions which define
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Speaker 1: an operator as an entity exercising a commercial or professional activity.
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Speaker 1: So we just see the goalposts being moved constantly in
50:32
Speaker 1: this effort to maintain control of narratives. But in the meantime,
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Speaker 1: also in the EU, then chat control one point oho
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Speaker 1: has passed. Now this tweet is kind of indicative of
50:44
Speaker 1: the response on social media, and it's wrong. I'm afraid
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Speaker 1: chat control one point oho is voluntary, It's not mandatory.
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Speaker 1: As a tweet suggests. It allows, but does not require,
50:54
Speaker 1: messaging services and platforms to scan communications for already identified
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Speaker 1: child six abuse material. Tech companies are not required to
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Speaker 1: scan messages, but may do so if they wish. The
51:06
Speaker 1: mandatory scanning frameworkers chat Control two point zero. So while
51:11
Speaker 1: I understand the sentiment expressed in that tweet, it's important
51:14
Speaker 1: to get this right because if people think that something
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Speaker 1: has already happened, they stop paying attention. The services actually
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Speaker 1: being scanned at this point are unencrypted platforms, mainly from
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Speaker 1: the United States, things like Gmail, Facebook, Messenger, Instagram, direct messages, Snapchat,
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Speaker 1: iCloud mail, Xbox. My client side scanning is becoming something
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Speaker 1: or something will arrive with Chat Control two point zero,
51:47
Speaker 1: and the talks on child Control two point zero resume
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Speaker 1: in September this year, because, as I've been reporting over
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Speaker 1: the last few months, the arguments between Member states over
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Speaker 1: Chat Control two point zero have been ongoing, and if
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Speaker 1: the pressure can be kept up on this issue, I
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Speaker 1: think Chat Control two could be stopped. It's not too
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Speaker 1: late to stop it. So we've got to encourage people
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Speaker 1: on the European continent to absolutely push by the Republic
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Speaker 1: Violin for that matter, to push back as hard as
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Speaker 1: they can on this.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: Let's just move on then, to Anne Whittickumb, of course
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Speaker 1: known to everybody as the former Tory minister and also
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Speaker 1: Reform UK spokeswoman. She has now died at the age
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Speaker 1: of seventy eight.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 1: Whittigm was MP for Midston for tw twenty three years.
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Speaker 1: She served in John Major's government as a minister at
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Speaker 1: the Home Office and also as Employment Minister. She joined
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Speaker 1: the Exit Party in twenty twenty three, having been a
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Speaker 1: Sorry She joined the Reform Party in twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 1: having been an MP for the Brexit Party prior to that.
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty David Ellis spoke to Anne Whittihumb alongside
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Speaker 1: sas veteran Rusty Ferman at her Devon home for the
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Speaker 1: UK column. The main topic was European Defense Union, and
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Speaker 1: of course this was something that she was prepared to
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Speaker 1: engage on, contrary to her party leader Nigel Ferras, who
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Speaker 1: has fastly refused to get involved in that topic. But
53:17
Speaker 1: here is a short clip in which she's discussing the
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Speaker 1: state of the nation.
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Speaker 10: In the level of the fines, for example, and the
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Speaker 10: ability of people being told to snitch on their neighbors.
53:30
Speaker 10: You know, we're running a quasi starzi here. I mean,
53:33
Speaker 10: it's quite wrong, but that wasn't quite what you asked me.
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Speaker 10: If we go back to what you were asking, has
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Speaker 10: military anything to do with the narrative of the answer,
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Speaker 10: isn't it?
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Speaker 3: I think? I think that's that's that's exactly the case.
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Speaker 11: It's delighted that you've highlighted the sort of ministers becoming
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Speaker 11: to an extent invisible, because it looks like we've got
53:53
Speaker 11: the failure of cabinet government. And somebody that's served in
53:56
Speaker 11: cabinet government, you know, what's your take on the current
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Speaker 11: situation that we don't seem to have action and resolution
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Speaker 11: in any timely fashion.
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Speaker 10: Well, I think that if you went out on the
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Speaker 10: streets with a microphone at the moment and you ask
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Speaker 10: people to name Shay the sext flow of State Transport
54:15
Speaker 10: or whatever it might be, people would be very hard
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Speaker 10: put because we're not seeing cabinet government.
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Speaker 3: At the moment.
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Speaker 10: What we're seeing is a dictatorship of a few under
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Speaker 10: emergency powers.
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Speaker 1: Of course, she was talking at the time that the
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Speaker 1: Corona Coronavirus Act was still enforced and lockdowns were still
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Speaker 1: effectively enforced, I believe at that time if I remember rightly,
54:38
Speaker 1: But nonetheless her point was well made. Now the full
54:41
Speaker 1: interviews on the Editor's Choice section on the front Piege
54:44
Speaker 1: of the UK. Call the website if you'd like to
54:46
Speaker 1: watch the rest. So where does that take us? Basel?
54:51
Speaker 1: It takes us to in case you missed.
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Speaker 2: It, that's right, Mike, everybody's favorite section of the week,
54:56
Speaker 2: my weekly troll through the headlines you might have missed.
55:00
Speaker 2: And first up, well, unfortunately our cheap flights to the
55:04
Speaker 2: continent may be coming to an end. US private equity
55:07
Speaker 2: firm Apollo has ended a bidding war for easy Jet
55:10
Speaker 2: with a five point seven billion pound offer, and the
55:14
Speaker 2: board are recommending acceptance to shareholders. I can't help thinking
55:19
Speaker 2: it will only mean one thing, and that is increased
55:23
Speaker 2: fares for.
55:25
Speaker 4: You and me.
55:25
Speaker 2: I fear that the age of the cheap trip is over.
55:31
Speaker 4: Now.
55:31
Speaker 2: Next up? Oh yes, the Football Association of Ireland have
55:37
Speaker 2: decided to hold their controversial match against Israel in Serbia
55:42
Speaker 2: behind closed doors. There's a big campaign, of course to
55:46
Speaker 2: have the match canceled all together. Extraordinary that Israel is
55:49
Speaker 2: still playing international football when Russia have been banned and
55:56
Speaker 2: the Irish, of course, particularly vehemently anti genocide. So the
56:00
Speaker 2: FAI have chosen the soft option, and I'm going to
56:04
Speaker 2: play the match behind closed doors in Serbia of all places.
56:08
Speaker 2: Next up, well, we're very glad about this. This is
56:11
Speaker 2: something we flashed up a couple of weeks ago, the
56:14
Speaker 2: Dialogue group, this bizarre cult of Peter Tal that we're
56:18
Speaker 2: going to talk about how to survive World War three
56:21
Speaker 2: and all sorts of other stuff. Well, it's been canceled
56:25
Speaker 2: by Powers Court. The hotel in Wicklow next month. The
56:29
Speaker 2: estate has confirmed the event has been canceled.
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Speaker 3: That's it.
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Speaker 2: Nothing to add except, of course they're likely to try
56:35
Speaker 2: and find an alternative venue, maybe in Switzerland or somewhere
56:39
Speaker 2: else like that where they don't ask too many questions.
56:42
Speaker 2: Next up, German workers can't take a single sick day
56:48
Speaker 2: without a doctor's note. This is really I mean, the
56:52
Speaker 2: Hitler didn't do this, you know. Friedrich Merks, the Chancellor,
57:01
Speaker 2: complained about exorbitant levels of sick leaving companies following the
57:04
Speaker 2: pandemic and said we are abolishing sick leave certificates over
57:07
Speaker 2: the phone and introducing the requirement to submit a certificate
57:10
Speaker 2: of incapacity work from the.
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Speaker 1: First day of illness.
57:14
Speaker 2: Well, what gets me about this, Mike, is people sometimes
57:18
Speaker 2: genuinely too ill to get out of bed, and too
57:21
Speaker 2: ill even to lift.
57:22
Speaker 1: The telephone receiver.
57:25
Speaker 2: You know, the colloquial definition of genuine flu is that
57:28
Speaker 2: if somebody dropped a fifty pound note through the letterbox,
57:31
Speaker 2: you'd be too ill to get up and go downstairs
57:33
Speaker 2: and pick it up, you know. So I'm I'm quite
57:36
Speaker 2: sure what people who are genuinely ill have got, apart
57:39
Speaker 2: from heart conditions like heart attacks or something they're supposed
57:42
Speaker 2: to do.
57:43
Speaker 1: But if we just put that back up and screen
57:45
Speaker 1: again and look at that quote exorbitant levels of sick
57:48
Speaker 1: leaving companies following the pandemic and no comment on why
57:53
Speaker 1: that might be. Was it something true to do with jobs? Well,
57:56
Speaker 1: what was the reason for us that speculation, Mike?
57:59
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, in general, I think there have
58:03
Speaker 2: been more sick days taken for whatever reason, because it
58:07
Speaker 2: sort of became more acceptable in places of work to
58:11
Speaker 2: suddenly declare yourself ill following the COVID farrago. Now the
58:15
Speaker 2: next one, this is my favorite story of the whole week,
58:18
Speaker 2: I must admit, Zora and Mam Danni is more popular
58:22
Speaker 2: than Netta Niahu among American Jews, acording to a new poll.
58:26
Speaker 2: The Association Press Survey found growing this is fast fiction
58:30
Speaker 2: with Israel's wartime leadership, even as the New York mayor
58:33
Speaker 2: remains divisive over his views on Israel. Of course, huge
58:38
Speaker 2: machinations going on in American politics, particularly the Democratic Party,
58:43
Speaker 2: over support for Israel, which is cratering ever more by
58:48
Speaker 2: the day. Next up, Yeah, now, this is really very
58:52
Speaker 2: sort of serious. Mass of the Chief Rabbi fy Murders
58:56
Speaker 2: is leading calls to block the Church of England Synod's
59:00
Speaker 2: discussion of a report by a Palestinian Christian organization into
59:07
Speaker 2: the genocide of Christians in Gaza. Quite what this has
59:11
Speaker 2: got to do with the Chief Rabbi? I have no idea.
59:14
Speaker 2: Isn't he being anti Semitic by conflating the British Jewish
59:19
Speaker 2: community with the actions of the State of Israel. Might
59:23
Speaker 2: if we can go on, so EVRAE Merwitz, who has
59:28
Speaker 2: a son serving in the Israeli Army? Will he be
59:31
Speaker 2: arrested if he returns to the UK. But he's part
59:34
Speaker 2: of the genocide MC. I don't think so.
59:37
Speaker 3: He's warned.
59:37
Speaker 2: I like that warned, you know, as if there are consequences,
59:41
Speaker 2: warned the judges of English General synate that it risks
59:45
Speaker 2: damaging Christian Jewish relationship. It proceeds with emotion encouraging engagement
59:50
Speaker 2: with the document A Moment of Truth Faith in a
59:54
Speaker 2: Time of Genocide, published by Cairos Palestine also known as
59:59
Speaker 2: Cairo Too. Why that's the question, Why would it damage
1:00:04
Speaker 2: relations with the Jewish community? The General Sin of the
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Speaker 2: Church Legislative Body is due to consider the motion of
1:00:10
Speaker 2: it annual gathering in York. The motion does not ask
1:00:13
Speaker 2: the Church to endorse the document, simply to receive and
1:00:15
Speaker 2: engage with it as part of its understanding of the
1:00:18
Speaker 2: Palestinian Christian experience amid Israel's jeddocide and girls. But apparently
1:00:23
Speaker 2: that's too much for the Chief Rabbi who thinks he
1:00:27
Speaker 2: has the rights to dictate to the Church of England
1:00:30
Speaker 2: who and what they can engage with and talk about.
1:00:33
Speaker 2: I mean, absolutely breathtaking levels of arrogance. And finally, Mike,
1:00:38
Speaker 2: just when he thought it was safe to go back
1:00:39
Speaker 2: into the kitchen. It seems ordinary wi fi can now
1:00:43
Speaker 2: identify people with near perfect accuracy. Scientists say ordinary WiFi
1:00:48
Speaker 2: roatis may soon be able to secretly recognize and track
1:00:52
Speaker 2: people with and track note with near perfect accuracy. By
1:00:57
Speaker 2: observing the propagation of radio wads, we can't an image
1:01:00
Speaker 2: of the surroundings and of persons who are present, So
1:01:03
Speaker 2: says Professor Thorston STRUFA from Castel Institute of Information Security
1:01:09
Speaker 2: and Dependability. This works similar to a normal camera that
1:01:14
Speaker 2: that in our case radio waves instead of light waves
1:01:17
Speaker 2: are used for the recognition, explains the cybersecurity of its expert. Thus,
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Speaker 2: it does not matter whether you carry a Wi Fi
1:01:24
Speaker 2: device on you or not, like whales and their sonar,
1:01:28
Speaker 2: is n't it make In other words, the Wi Fi
1:01:30
Speaker 2: unit itself, from the waves it emits can detect you
1:01:34
Speaker 2: know the shape of your face, own density, and you
1:01:38
Speaker 2: know you name it and work out whether you're in
1:01:42
Speaker 2: the room or in the vicinity or within the range
1:01:44
Speaker 2: of that unit. It's hoped, of course that will never
1:01:47
Speaker 2: be used for surveillance in that way, but absolutely extraordinary
1:01:51
Speaker 2: what we're bringing into our homes unbeknownst to our smike.
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Speaker 1: Well we just have to remember there is an off switch.
1:01:58
Speaker 1: The problem is, yes, birds have Wi Fi, so yes,
1:02:02
Speaker 1: where does the end we're marinading in it all the
1:02:05
Speaker 1: time saturated? Are we absolutely, Bill, thank you very much
1:02:09
Speaker 1: for that. We've got to leave it there for today.
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