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CFB DFS - WEEK 2 | Saturday Slate | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: What's going on, everybody? Welcome to the Ship It Nation
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: I guess still, still in a, still in week zero,
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  Speaker 1: week one form to kick off week two in terms
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  Speaker 1: of screen shares, but here's all the winners from last week.
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  Speaker 1: Now let's just jump into this late. This is what
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  Speaker 1: we're here for. Anyway, kicking things off Penn state at temple,
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  Speaker 1: a bitter, big in-state rivalry, uh, Penn state headed down
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  Speaker 1: to Philly to play the owls. On the Penn State side,
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  Speaker 1: big favorites. Rocco Beck's price is getting up there. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Carson Hanson, I thought he'd be a workhorse. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he got carries. It didn't seem like they were super effective.
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  Speaker 1: But we have kind of a by committee or at
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  Speaker 1: least timeshare in the backfield. But then Kobe Howard just
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  Speaker 1: bust onto the scene. You know, I've heard arguments that
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  Speaker 1: it was the coaches, not himself, keeping himself off the
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  Speaker 1: field last year. So maybe staying with Penn State when
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  Speaker 1: everybody else was leaving. was the right decision for him.
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  Speaker 1: But then you still got to look at the Iowa
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  Speaker 1: State guys, Eskilsen, Soule, Ben Bramer. Soule's price at $ 3, 400.
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  Speaker 1: Looks super nice. And then on the Temple side, you know,
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  Speaker 1: big underdogs with a quarterback split. So it's tough to
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  Speaker 1: swallow that pill, even though they're 5K and $ 4, 900. But
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  Speaker 1: one thing that's intriguing is Gavay and Mason got more
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  Speaker 1: than 20 touches last week. And so with opportunity comes success.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about it all the time in college football.
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  Speaker 1: And then, you know, just a few names in the
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  Speaker 1: pass catching room for Temple. Colin Chase and Giorgio Bermudez,
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  Speaker 1: if you're familiar with Temple or familiar with DFS. A
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  Speaker 1: couple of names you've probably heard before, and then just
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  Speaker 1: my favorite on the slate, Ryder Cush. How are you
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  Speaker 1: guys approaching this game? It appears to be one-sided, but
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  Speaker 1: there might be a run back or two on this
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  Speaker 1: Temple side. Kenny, we'll start with you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, when I initially looked at Temple, I
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  Speaker 2: saw the kind of volume Mason got last week, and
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  Speaker 2: it kind of intrigued me that Um, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not really going to spend much time on temple. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not really interested. Um, not really super interested in Penn
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  Speaker 2: state either. Like the running back room is a mess.
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  Speaker 2: That being said, Kobe Howard does interest me a lot. Um,
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  Speaker 2: he's not getting that ownership that we usually see after
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  Speaker 2: somebody like somebody coming off as big of a game
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  Speaker 2: as he had. We're not really seeing that big ownership
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  Speaker 2: spike or price spike. I mean, I guess he did
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  Speaker 2: come up from $ 1, 700, but there's a chance he still
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  Speaker 2: could be underpriced. We've seen some Matt Campbell wide receivers,
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  Speaker 2: Iowa state, um, have some big time success and be
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  Speaker 2: like volume target dogs. Um, I think that's possible for
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  Speaker 2: Kobe Howard. I mean, that's also possible for STD and
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  Speaker 2: soul as well. So I'm still in on Kobe Howard.
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  Speaker 2: The rest is yet to be seen. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Are you looking at this at all for cash again?
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  Speaker 4: No, I just think, you know, when you look at
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  Speaker 4: the slate, I don't want to the Penn state side
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  Speaker 4: for cash side, single entry side, but there's, we're going
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  Speaker 4: to get to it, but there's so many good options.
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  Speaker 4: When you look at the slate as a whole, when
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of question marks, kind of past there
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  Speaker 4: in the running back room, when there seems to be
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  Speaker 4: value in the receiver room, you look at where the
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  Speaker 4: other board has to say, I just don't think this
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  Speaker 4: is the spot to play it when you're looking to
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  Speaker 4: see that volume edge.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And just this is the first game we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: which is, you know, it's just there's a lot more
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  Speaker 1: on the slate upcoming that we're going to discuss. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a lot juicier, a lot better for DFS.
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  Speaker 1: A lot better real-life football, too. And speaking of real-life football,
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  Speaker 1: we have a game in Ann Arbor where the clocks
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  Speaker 1: are questionable. Oklahoma at Michigan. Oklahoma a five-and-a-half-point road favorite,
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  Speaker 1: which I'm sure there's a lot of people that watch
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  Speaker 1: college football that want the Sooners to just blow the
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  Speaker 1: doors off of this Michigan team. They cruised against UTEP.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to take a ton from that because they
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  Speaker 1: were significantly better. But John Mateer looked really good, and
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  Speaker 1: this might be the cheapest we see him all season.
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  Speaker 1: And then we have the backfield, which is a little
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  Speaker 1: bit jumbled. Avant got the start, but it's basically him
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  Speaker 1: and Robinson leading the charge. And then Haddon and Blalock
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  Speaker 1: have been dealing with injuries. So what their workload is
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  Speaker 1: going to be, whether they're on the field or not,
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  Speaker 1: is uncertain. And then Cetania, Trell Harris, pretty clear 1-2.
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  Speaker 1: Rocky Beers had a touchdown last week. We had some
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  Speaker 1: Friday night beers. And then Parker Livingstone could potentially see
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  Speaker 1: his workload increase coming off of a concussion. or at
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  Speaker 1: least being in the protocol. So maybe we see his
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  Speaker 1: role increase. On the Michigan side, it's weird. Bryce Underwood
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  Speaker 1: didn't look good. He's getting paid a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: And Whittingham made comments this week that he's the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: right now, but it's not infinite. And the backup is
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  Speaker 1: Tommy Carr, a name you might recognize. Michigan fans recognize
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  Speaker 1: the last name for sure. Grandson of Lloyd Carr. Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame recognizes the name. Brother of CJ Carr. So there's
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  Speaker 1: a little drama in Ann Arbor. I mean, Jordan Marshall...
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more solidified. He's just expensive for this matchup,
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  Speaker 1: and Heider could eat into him a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: And the aforementioned J.J. Buchanan, the Hail Mary hero, looking
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  Speaker 1: good at $ 5, 100, and Marsh is even cheaper. Those two
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  Speaker 1: guys are probably the target share. I mean, they might
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  Speaker 1: spread it out a little bit, but those two guys
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  Speaker 1: seem like they had a clear– grasp on it. Ian,
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  Speaker 1: a low total. It's, it's tough to, it's tough to
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  Speaker 1: pull the trigger. You know, there is a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of value though.
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  Speaker 4: There's some value, but it's that classic spot of a
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  Speaker 4: big name game, probably the prime game of the, of
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  Speaker 4: the slate best football game that on paper, we see
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  Speaker 4: two big name brands, but not one that we want
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  Speaker 4: to really necessarily touch. The numbers don't line up to
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  Speaker 4: over and there's totals don't line up. The pace of
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  Speaker 4: the play doesn't line up. The, um, You know, just
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  Speaker 4: everything that we're kind of looking for when we look
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  Speaker 4: to build on 12 games late just doesn't line up
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  Speaker 4: for a cash perspective on this game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, great game, great name brand. A lot of viewers
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  Speaker 3: on it could have something to say towards the end
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  Speaker 3: of the year.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, even with a little value with Buchanan,
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  Speaker 4: you know, maybe Mateer is always going to be a
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  Speaker 4: guy that pops a little bit for cash. It's just
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  Speaker 4: the pace that these guys play that Michigan showed last
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  Speaker 4: week and Oklahoma's defense, I would just, scrap over this
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  Speaker 4: game and again we got some we got some bigger
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  Speaker 4: ones to talk about down the road.
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  Speaker 2: Um for me like obviously i've got to have some
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  Speaker 2: interest in jj buchanan um until last week i you
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  Speaker 2: know i don't know there's just there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: options um that being said i don't I might run– like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to play Bryce Underwood or
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to touch Michigan running backs, but I
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  Speaker 2: might run some– like, some Matier with a pass catcher
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  Speaker 2: and then a Michigan guy like DeCanon or Marsh. I
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  Speaker 2: actually really like Cetegna at 6,500. He's kind of like–
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's overpriced, but he's not, like, cheap
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  Speaker 2: and it's a bad game environment. But he's a guy that, like,
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  Speaker 2: this whole offense could funnel through– They played a lot
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  Speaker 2: of two tight end sets last week. I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 2: they were playing UTEP that was pretty much abysmal on
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  Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. But Sategna really intrigues me.
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  Speaker 2: He returns punts too. There's just a lot of outs
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  Speaker 2: for him. You see those 24 points. It wouldn't shock
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  Speaker 2: me if Sategna got three touchdowns out of those 24 points.
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  Speaker 2: Terrell Harris kind of interests me. He didn't get his
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  Speaker 2: until later in the game last week. And then As
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  Speaker 2: much as I love Rocky Beers and he was really
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  Speaker 2: good for me last week, I'm kind of staying away
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  Speaker 2: from those guys. Lloyd Avant, I'm still undecided on because
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  Speaker 2: I thought he looked pretty solid and the price isn't crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if for some reason they, like, Lloyd Avant
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  Speaker 2: looks good again. They just rolled with him. There's some
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  Speaker 2: upside maybe for some volume for him. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you need to get that cute on this slate,
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  Speaker 2: but it's something I'm considering. And then, yeah, Mateer. Mateer
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  Speaker 2: actually had a pretty good game against Michigan last year.
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  Speaker 2: Michigan plays a lot of man coverage, and that leads
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  Speaker 2: to quarterback running. And, yeah, I think he had, like,
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  Speaker 2: 270-2 and then, like, 70-some rushing yards on a touchdown
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  Speaker 2: last year. So there is some, like... Yeah, it's... for
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  Speaker 2: GPU player, I can find like in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: reasons to play people, but there is some, there's some
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  Speaker 2: spots on this Oklahoma side, I think.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And one thing too, is as we go along, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to see a handful of guys priced higher and
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  Speaker 1: some good value at quarterback and material just feels like
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  Speaker 1: in that middle zone where it's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit overlooked, maybe more of an ignored portion. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I know, Obviously, as we run through ownership and look
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  Speaker 1: at our numbers, it could change, but it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the weird zone. We get a few guys in it
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  Speaker 1: every week. Zero was Noah Kim. And then the other thing, too,
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  Speaker 1: I want to mention briefly at Ship It Nation, if
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  Speaker 1: Stages before big slates, typically on Saturday morning, an hour
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  Speaker 1: ahead of lock, where we have some deeper discussions. And
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  Speaker 1: on Friday, when Oklahoma played, they were a big part
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  Speaker 1: of the discussion. Because we saw ownership going one way,
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  Speaker 1: and we're just talking about Isaiah Cetania. And, like, it's
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  Speaker 1: just going to be him. It was him last year.
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  Speaker 1: He had spike games. And then he had a big game. And,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, the return game definitely adds to that, too.
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  Speaker 1: Arizona State at Texas A & M. Very different-looking Arizona
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  Speaker 1: State team. Cutter Boley in from Kentucky. Looked good against
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  Speaker 1: bad competition last week. Kyson Brown seems to be the
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  Speaker 1: guy in this running room. I don't really know. who
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  Speaker 1: else it's going to be. And then we have some
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  Speaker 1: names that you'll recognize, not as Arizona State guys, but
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  Speaker 1: just guys from college football in general. Omarion Miller and
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  Speaker 1: Reed Harris, Miller from Colorado, Reed Harris from Boston College.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like a clear one, too. And then we
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  Speaker 1: have Vines Bright, like a diamond, a big discounted price,
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  Speaker 1: a guy who's just going to be on the field
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  Speaker 1: enough to where you can look at him in the
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  Speaker 1: three Ks. And then on the Texas A & M side,
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  Speaker 1: Marcel Reed, one of the expensive quarterbacks, is dual threat.
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  Speaker 1: He's a stud. He has upside week in, week out.
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  Speaker 1: Reuben Owens is intriguing. 7,200 doesn't seem like it's high enough.
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  Speaker 1: He's due to get a pretty big workload on a
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  Speaker 1: team that is a 14.5-point favorite, 32-point team total. And
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  Speaker 1: then the wide receiver room, it's similar names we talked
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  Speaker 1: about with A & M before, Mario Craver being the
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  Speaker 1: main one, Ashton Bethel-Roman, Terry Buss, he's still there, and
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  Speaker 1: then Isaiah Horton had a solid game last week as well.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of big names and a big team
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  Speaker 1: total for Texas A & M. Ian, we'll start with you.
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  Speaker 1: Just break down this game, how you're approaching it for cash.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there are some guys that stick out at
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  Speaker 1: least a little more than the previous two games.
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  Speaker 4: Well, again, it's really interesting when you look at these
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  Speaker 4: games because both these teams played just lesser of the
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  Speaker 4: competition now.
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  Speaker 3: Now we've got to rely a.
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  Speaker 4: Little bit more on what the preseason reports were about
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  Speaker 4: who's going to play the bulk of it. Still, from
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  Speaker 4: this perspective, Arizona State, from the numbers, big underdog, low
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  Speaker 4: team total.
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  Speaker 3: Probably not, even though they have some.
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  Speaker 4: Good players, guys that we know, not really interesting to me.
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  Speaker 4: At this spot, just seems like a tough matchup going
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  Speaker 4: on the road, playing the Heat in A & M.
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  Speaker 4: A & M, kind of good team, you know, fringe
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  Speaker 4: playoff team. Marcel Rizzo is a guy that we're looking
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  Speaker 4: for in cash. I just think there's better options this week,
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  Speaker 4: which we'll get to. You know, the pricing is just
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  Speaker 4: priced up where it should be. Reuben Owens is also
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  Speaker 4: a guy that is true number one, two touchdown favorite,
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  Speaker 4: 32-point team total. Guy by the numbers that we definitely
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  Speaker 4: want to look at as a cash consideration as well.
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  Speaker 3: Receivers, the nice thing.
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  Speaker 4: About A & M is we know where the ball's going.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: Reed likes to pass the ball to his top guys.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Craver's the top guy. Horton's the top guy. That is
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: really reliable for us when it comes to DFS because
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: we can stack those guys knowing that he likes his
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: favorite targets.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: But still not in the range. We're still getting there.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: We've still got some big things. Maybe Reed, maybe Owens.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Maybe if you want to, if you got some salad
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: over one of those receivers is a good spot, uh,
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: for the cash single entry way, but still not the
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: target spot for me yet.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Me, uh, me personally, I like Texas A &
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: M as a whole this year, I'm a little down
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: on for fantasy just with the loss of Colin Klein. Um,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: That being said, really the only one that interests me
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: is Reuben Owens. He didn't have as much volume. He
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: might have more volume this week that we can't really
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: project yet. So I'm kind of interested there. There's some
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: really good running back plays on the slate, and he's
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: kind of one of them, but he's not the top one.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: So there's a chance he goes overlooked. So I have
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: some interest there. And then... I just can't talk myself
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: out of like, I love Omar Miller or Reed Harris.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: And like, that's about it from Arizona state, but I
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: really like each of them separately. It wouldn't shock me
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: if one of them had 10 or more catches. Arizona
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: state has typically fed their dudes. And both of them
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: had good volume last week. I don't, I think it's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: going to be hard to predict which one, obviously maybe
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: until we get some like more matchup data later in
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the season. But I really liked taking the shot on
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: one of those two. in GPPs, sprinkling them in. But yeah,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: that's really all I have on this game. It's kind
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: of mad compared to the rest of the slate.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and misreading the start time is completely acceptable after
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: last week. There are several clocks you can look at.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter which one until it comes to
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: crunch time, then you pick the one that favors you
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the most. And I was going to say you can
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: make up for it by hitting the like button, but
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I assume you did if you're already encouraging others. So
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Texas Scratch DFS is all over it, despite The tardiness,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: it's all forgiven. But Kenny, you mentioned Colin Klein. He
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: makes an appearance in this next game. Wazoo at Kansas State.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Caden Pinnock is, I don't know, he's dual threat. He
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: looked okay at times against Washington. $ 6, 500 is a weird price, though,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: considering we have some guys in the 5Ks and lower
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: 6Ks we'll talk about a little bit later. And then
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: The running back room is just kind of a mess.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: A bunch of people touch the ball, don't do a
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: whole lot with it, and this is going to be
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a tough matchup, just like Washington was. The wide receiver
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: room is a little bit interesting because Daniel Blood was
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: involved even before Tony Freeman got hurt, but now tony
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: freeman is not going to play and daniel blood is
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: 3600 so you're getting a wide receiver one uh at
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: sub 4k and then you have darius clemens um and
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: then brandon we'll just leave it at that i'm not
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: going to try to pronounce his name i've heard it
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: said and i instantly forget how to say it every
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: time so we'll just ganash ganash and morthy we'll go
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: with that at almost min price and probably going to
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: see the field on the Kansas state side. Avery Johnson
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is going to be on the table, even at this price,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: he's dual threat. My Heisman call from a couple of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: years ago that went South pretty quickly. Rodney Fields in
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: from Oklahoma state. He was a starter last week with
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: a 33 and a half point team total. Both he
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: and Joe Jackson are going to project well in this game. And, but,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you're probably getting a timeshare. Even if you get a
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: lean one way or the other, it might only be
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: like 55-45 or 60-40 unless someone gets real hot. In
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the wide receiver room, it's Tibbs and Manning looking to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: be the top two guys. Oakley and Kira are the
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: tight ends. I don't know. They have three stellar runners,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: so it does make it a little bit harder for
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: me to pull the trigger on one of these receivers.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: And the pricing is just fine. Kenny, how are you approaching...
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the Kansas state Washington state game and what does it
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: look like for GPP?
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Um, you know, talking through Kansas state, you kind of
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: finish off with the receivers there. Like I really want
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: to play a Kansas state receiver, but I have no
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: idea which one yet. Like, and the tight ends take
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of volume too. Like I, I don't, I
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: like Avery and GPPs this week. I don't think he's
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: going to get over the own cause he is kind
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: of priced up relative to what else, what other quarterbacks
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: you have available. Um, but I don't think I can
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: take a shot with the receivers, um, running back. So
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: it's still an or on the depth chart, but they
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: flipped fields and Jackson fields had more, uh, volume last
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: week to started, um, Rodney fields. He didn't catch a
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: pass last week, but he did a lot of that
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma state last year. So I think Rodney fields is
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: pretty sneaky here. I don't think, I think Kansas state's
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: really like a really good one-off this week. Um, you know,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: one or one of Avery or Rodney, just for the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: reason you talked about bill, how there's just a lot
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: of mouths to feed in the Russian game. Um, Washington state,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: we got a, uh, pretty good look at Washington state
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: against a, uh, Washington team that looked abysmal, honestly, but, um, Yeah.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Pinnock definitely has some rushing upside. Like he can definitely scoot. Um,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I just don't like the team total really. Um, and
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: so I don't think I'm gonna play any panic, but
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I was definitely intrigued to, I don't know. I, I
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: don't know what to think Kansas state's defense yet. I
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: had really no opinion one way or the other. And
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: so I think I'm just going to pass for right now. Um,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And then the running back room is obviously a mess,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: but Daniel blood for sure. Just an sec transferred, especially
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: as the game went on, panic was connected with him
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: more and more 3,600 bucks on trailing game script on
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the road against a big 12 defense that I don't
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: really have an opinion about sign me up for Daniel blood,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: but that's really all I have to say in this, uh,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: in this battle of like mountain cats, cougars, wildcats.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And I seem to remember last year when, when fields
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: was at Oklahoma state, uh, you had a call on
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: him when he was like $ 4, 200 and nobody was playing him.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: You're like, I kind of like him in this spot.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And like the third play of the game, he had
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: a 70-yard time reception. Just blew the whole thing up.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And it was a real good look for Shippen Nation
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and Hamburg. But yeah, definitely that's where I think that
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: pass-catching nugget comes into play, even though I don't know
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: if he had a target last week, but not a reception.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: It's definitely on the table.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, you mentioned Colin Clown before. He's a really
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: great play caller back home in Kansas State.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: I'm really curious to see what Avery Johnson turns into
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: this year. Again, hard to know from what they had
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: last week, but I am curious to see what Avery
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Johnson is because at his peak, he's a great DFS play. And,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe it pops this week, maybe it doesn't.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: But he is priced up a little bit, but it
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: may be worth a sneak peek there at Avery Johnson
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: as just a really high ceiling player dual threat quarterback
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: with a really good offensive play caller, offensive mind as
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: a new head coach this year. Really tough spot for
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Washington State coming off the Sunday game. Apple Cup rivalry,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: traveling across a couple time zones. Early game in Kansas State.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: But yeah, Blood is just priced way too low considering
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: he is going to be the number one receiver there.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Definitely consideration there for your cash lineup. Gives you a
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: lot of flexibility at the other spots there.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of unknowns, especially because Kansas State
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: played Nichols State last week, so they obviously look really good.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Everybody who played an FCS opponent or even some of
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: the G6 opponents looks really good, but Washington State isn't
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the elite of the elite or anything in the FBS level,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: but it's a much better team than they faced last week,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: and we'll get a lot more answers on this Wildcat
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: team moving forward for sure. Another blowout, Oregon at Oklahoma State,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a 23.5 point spread. Oregon looked pretty bad last week
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: for a lot of the game. Um, and you, but I,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: that you could argue they have an easier opponent this
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: week than they did last week. Um, you know, Boise
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: state side-by-side with Oklahoma state or, you know, North Texas,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: depending on how you look at it. Uh, Dante Moore
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: had a great DFS game. Um, but they also threw
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the ball 37 times. I expect them to throw the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: ball a good amount here again, but, uh, with, you know, if,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: if they play like they should, they shouldn't need to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: throw the ball as much. Um, And there's a lot
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: of quarterbacks and 8,900 is the most expensive quarterback on
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: the slate too. So it's, it's probably going to squeeze
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: his ownership a little bit in the running back room.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: It looks like we're going to have a split with
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Davidson and Hill and, you know, with all of the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: stud running backs on this slate, you know, it's, it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: a perfect GPP play. If you end up getting a
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: 70 30 in terms of production and you have the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: right guy, it could look really good with this kind
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: of team total. But they definitely have upside if one
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of them happens to get two or three touchdowns. Just
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: not as safe as a play as some of these
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: other guys we're going to talk about and have already
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: talked about. And then the wide receiver room, McClellan had
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: a stellar game last week. He and Evan Stewart both
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: had nine targets. DeCorey and Moore still probably the number
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: one in this room. Jamari Johnson is the one that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: sticks out to me, especially for cash being the price
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that he is and knowing the looks that he's going
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to get. Those are the only four receivers that got
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a target last week. Again, we could see more of
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: these guys if this game goes to script a little
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: bit better than last week's game did. And then, like
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I said, Oklahoma State's basically North Texas. You could argue
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: they're a worse team last year. They lost to Tulsa
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: by two touchdowns in week one. Now, maybe that's just
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: getting their feet wet in a new place, but it's,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. The chemistry should still be there with
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys. And it was with Mestemaker
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and Young. Wyatt Young still got nine targets. I do
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: like that he's in the slot. He's just expensive on
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a slate that it looks like we're going to be
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: paying up at running back in all likelihood. And Mestemaker
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: at 6,300, again, the potential is probably there. This probably
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: isn't the game for it, though. And then Caleb Hawkins
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: at 7K flat, another guy we're going to probably want
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: our eyes on throughout the year. It's just a question
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: mark if you really want him in this matchup. After
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: what we saw, not only after what we saw last week,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: but going up against Oregon, And in the wide receiver
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: room after young, it's Coleman who also got a good,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: good amount of targets. I kind of like him more
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: because of his price. And then Barnes and Boat kind
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: of rounded out Ian. The heavy favorite has a lot
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: of mouths to feed and the underdog is just kind
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: of a crummy looking football team right now.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Such a weird spot today with, with Oregon being a
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: 40 point to 40 point team total. And, you know, just,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: really not really looking anywhere in a cash lineup just
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: because quarterbacks really priced up and everything else is really split. And, and,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe the Korean more, maybe McClellan, but you know, we,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: we don't, they're still kind of priced up compared to
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: the slate. So it's not really enticing as much as
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: it would be otherwise considering what their numbers are. And
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: Oklahoma state is probably one of the more disappointing results
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: from last week. Probably a lot of hype coming to
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: North Texas going North. To Oklahoma State, a lot of
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: expectations from a lot of guys that put up a
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: lot of really good numbers last year. They just kind
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: of fell flat. And this is not really a bounce-back
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: spot for them either.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, they could pop off. They could become what
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: we expected them to be.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: But it's a really, really tough spot considering what they're
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: growing up against.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: So this is kind of a stay-away for me, which
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: I hate to say with a 40-point team called Oregon.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: It's just we don't have any reliable volume there, which
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: obviously we would love to have. And on the other side,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I don't really want to touch a 25-point home underdog
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: that just comes off a loss and facing a hungry team.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oregon is definitely tough because it feels like it's
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: like split and hard to guess. It's hard to guess
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: or as hard as it is to figure out. Sorry,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I had a hard time spitting that out. It was
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: like the most consolidated. Like I remember seeing Oregon in
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: week one. Like it was just like those four pass catchers,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: those two running backs and Dante Moore. If this is
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: more of a blowout, I might see some more rotation.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have a heck of a time figuring
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: out who I want to play for. this team um
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Bill you kind of when you were talking about the
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: uh you know running back touchdowns one thing about it
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Deer Hill if he does have two touchdowns those are
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: probably going to come from far away so I tend
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to like I kind of like some shares of him
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And then, I mean, Jamari Johnson's kind of the easy
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: pick for me just because he's the cheapest. I don't
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: know if his role is really any different. So, Oklahoma
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: State side, like, I love me a mess to make
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: her double. I don't know if I love it as
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: much this year as I did last year. Yeah. I
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: guess I can see this going a couple of ways.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I could see like for mess maker to succeed is
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Oregon and like Oklahoma state shows up, keeps it competitive.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Like it goes back and forth. We see that North
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Texas from last year or Oregon kicks the crap out
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: of them. It's 42 to nothing in halftime. They call
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: off the dogs and mess maker gets to Chuck the
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: entire second half and Like, that is a, like, legitimate
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: out for him to be decent. Like, I mean, I
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: wouldn't put it past Oregon dropping six touchdowns on Oklahoma State.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: They're super– I mean, they really have a really high
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: pace of play. It could be, like, quick three and outs,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: quick three and outs, Oregon scores quick, and then it's
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: just out of hand. But then I don't see Oklahoma
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: State pulling the starters if they're down six touchdowns at halftime. Like,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: they're going to try to figure some stuff out. So, like,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: those are the outs for Messamaker that– I think it's
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: kind of viable either way. Like he's like this whole
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: team is going to be unowned. Hawkins might get like
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: high singles, but I really don't see anybody signing up
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to play a really expensive Wyatt Young. And I don't
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: really like any of these guys at one-offs. Like I just,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: I like, you know, playing these all stacked, but it's a,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I have more interest in probably the general public, but
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I do see some outs here for some GPP stuff. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Mestemaker last year was the moneymaker, and this year the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: emphasis has been more on the mess. But maybe you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: need the game to be a complete mess for him
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to get his upside. I mean, we saw it.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Good work, Bill.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Good work. Good work.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got there. I can't tell you how long
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about it while Kenny was talking. I
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: did hear what you said. I just want to be clear.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, there is a little bit to
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: like in this game. And now that Oklahoma State has
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: their feet wet, I'm not saying they're going to necessarily
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: compete with Oregon, but it could be a better product
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: than we saw last week on the field against Tulsa
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: for sure. Wake Forest at Purdue, tight spread, not a
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: super high total, but at least a competitive game. And
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: we saw Wake Forest, a lot of eyes on Wake
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Forest being on a smaller slate last week, and they
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: dominated for like the first half and then just kind
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: of coasted in the second half. You know, Gio Lopez,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: had a stellar game. He looked like a stud throwing
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the ball, had five yards of carry. Akron, obviously an
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: inferior opponent. You could argue Purdue is as well. But
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: at this price, I got to imagine he's going to
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: see a little bit of ownership. 7,200 seems too cheap.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: The running back room is interesting because Ty Clark ended
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: up getting there. He had a big run later on.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: He got the hundred yard bonus, but in the first
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: half in six drives, he had 27 yards rushing. So
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of people pulling their hair out with,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: you know, Deuce Lawrence getting double the carries as Ty
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Clark for the most part, getting more production than Ty Clark.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: And then, uh, we have our resident wake fan Monday in,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: in our shipping community. And he says a lot of
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: people like Deuce, like Deuce Lawrence might be the guy.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: So that's, that's interesting. And you get a $ 1, 500 discount
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: for a team that's favored. So, uh, some interesting stuff
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: in the backfield and then Carlos Hernandez in one half, uh,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Had five for 165 and a touchdown last week. Injuries,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: not a scare, it sounds like. Sounds like he got
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: the wind knocked out of him in an extreme way.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Just could never catch his breath, so they played it safe.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: But then Shanks and Meek, you're getting a discount again.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Antonio Meeks had the big touchdown. Cam Shanks is on
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the field enough. And you got 6,000, 5,000, 4,000, which
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: is quite pleasing now. Just not in order on the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: stone because we'll break down the fourth wall a little bit.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Meeks is projected for a little bit higher than Cam Shanks. Uh,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: on the produce side, we have Ryan Brown who's sub
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: six K in a decent spot. A competitive game has
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit of dual threat to him. Um, he
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: had more than seven yards of carry last year and
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: added four rushing touchdowns. So there's definitely upside, especially at
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: this low price. Fama Asia boy prior to this week,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: PFS number one graded running back in FBS football and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a former gopher. Um, he can, he can catch passes
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: in the check down game. It seems like he's the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: clear number one. Um, Travis Terrell and Jared Gibson split
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: carries behind him, with Terrell getting a slight nod. And
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: then the wide receiver, Umasad Rasim and Xavier Townsend both
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: had eight targets. They seem like the clear favorites of
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Ryan Brown, but Chauncey Magwin at 3,400 is going to
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: get some looks as well. He's on the field plenty,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: but just didn't get the receptions last week. So we
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: finally have a competitive game, Ian. What are, like, it just.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is probably the first spot we've been looking for.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is maybe the most stackable game so far.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Competitive game, you know, cheap, affordable prices, got some dual
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: threat type quarterbacks, got some decently floor higher upside receivers
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: as well to go with it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, really interested in this quarterback receiver area here.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: If you're trying to fill out cash line, if you
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: want to try to get a little bit different with
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: a second quarterback in here, I think either one of
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: these two guys is a great option. A mid-tier guy
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: in Geo and a lower-priced guy in Brown. The receivers
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: are really good, too. We happen to have some salary.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Carlos Fernandez is a nice payout spot. Any one of
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: those guys you mentioned, Meeks and any of those guys
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: are really good receivers. as the second or third receiver
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: target if you're looking to save some salary.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: So good spot. Numbers line up.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Competitive game. Got some dual threat. Got some points potential.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Got some affordable prices. Slate like this, Wake Forest-Purdue, this
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: is what we're looking for here.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the vibe I get off this game
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: is it's going to be extremely disappointing or it's going
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: to be something that I don't have enough of. Like,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not playing the running back from either team. I'm
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: forcing– like, I'm playing Gio Lopez, but I'm forcing him
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: in a double stack. Like, I think for him to
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: hit this ceiling on this slate, he's going to take
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: two pass catches with him, and they're priced fine enough
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: to do that. And then, yeah, the Purdue side, when
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I'm playing Ryan Brown, I am going to stack him
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: with the receiver, and I'm going to double stack with
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Wake Forest. Like, it's going to be a whole game
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: stack or nothing for me here, but I– Yeah, this
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: game doesn't. I mean, maybe it's just because it's Wake
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Forest Purdue. It's a Demon Deacon. It's a Boilermaker. I
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: don't know, but I just don't have much interest here.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's going to be hard to tell who's
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: who when you first turn on your TV because they're
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the same colors. They both have a non-animal name.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I guess.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But competitive game. So, like, we're going to get to
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: way better games later, I think. But as we scroll through,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a breath of fresh
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: air on this slate. Back to the double-digit spreads, we
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: have Alabama at Kentucky. Keelan Russell looked really good, obviously
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: playing a much different team this week. But he's a
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: guy that can get it done with his legs, too.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Led the team in rushing attempts and yards, but I
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: think part of that, too, is because this running back
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: room's very, very congested and clustered. Daniel Hill and Treshawn
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Brown actually kind of led the charge in terms of volume.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: EJ Crowell had a decent amount and got five yards
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: after contact on average. Kevin Riley was kind of the
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: guy left behind. The guy squeezed. He did get some
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: time on the field, but nothing that you're going to
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: write home about. And then just to throw another wrench
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: into it, AK Deer is on the mend. He's questionable
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: right now, but he could very easily be the number
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: one when he comes back. So I do have a
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: lot of pause with this running back room, especially on
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: top of the congestion with Keelan Russell being the runner
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: that he is. And then the wide receiver room is
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: pretty clear. Ryan Coleman Williams, if he can catch the
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: ball is going to be a solid option. I think
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: week after week after week Brooks and Scott got the snaps,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: just didn't really get the looks and you know, Caleb Edwards,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a tight end is great, but then Derek Meadows is
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: very interesting to me. He got some run early and,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: but didn't get his, didn't get most of his snaps
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: until later on in the game, but on nine routes run,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: he got targeted on four of them. So it's, It's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: one thing. The fans want to see him more. He
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: was a four-star last year out of Bishop Gorman, so
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the potential is there. It's just he needs the opportunity,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I think. And then on the Kentucky side, Kenny Minchey
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: in from Notre Dame, another sub 6K quarterback, and then C.J. Baxter,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Jason Patterson kind of split in the backfield.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: C.J.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Baxter in from Texas. Got the starting nod, but it
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: was pretty close to a 50-50 split. Baxter just happened
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: to get the touchdowns last week. And then the best
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: part of this team, Kentucky, the pass catchers, the two
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: most targeted guys, both tight ends Willie Rodriguez and Michael Skinner.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: But it's only six and four targets. So it's not,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: not a huge number. But in a game like this,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Kentucky with a new, very, very new look, it's not
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: your stoops Kentucky team. They brought in a couple of
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: offensive minded guys from Oregon and LSU to be head
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: coach and OC. And I mean, Kenny, the quarterback, couldn't
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: have a better name, right?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we got kenny mentioned we got kenny
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: darby and kentucky how could a guy named kenny not
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: not one of some of these wildcats but um yeah
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: i And obviously I do kind of like Kentucky. I,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: they're going to be virtually unowned all the way through.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I think, especially in the, in the past catcher department,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I think Willie Rodriguez is like a really good tight end.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I think they use him. I think like they want
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: him to maybe be the vocal part of the past game.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: This is just me spewing random opinions, but, um, I
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: really liked some Willie Rodriguez in some stacks, like with
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Keelan Russell. Um, I also really like C.J. Baxter. It
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: was hard to get a gauge off the amount of
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: volume he got last week with the blowout nature of
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the game. But it wouldn't shock me if C.J. Baxter
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: had like 20 to 25 opportunities and like volumed his
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: way into a respectable drafting score. And Kenny Minchie has
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: some legs as well. Like I have some legs. interest
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: in these Kentucky guys it's really gross I don't know
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: if I really want to correlate it with Alabama just
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: because the options are feel like limited on Alabama I
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: don't want to touch any of the running backs it's
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: hard to figure out like it wouldn't shock me if
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Kroll ended up being the guy by the end of
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: the year and we actually do get to play him
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: but right now I think it's a little too murky
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: um Keelan Russell like he had a really good rushing
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: performance last week he kind of got sniped at the
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: goal line by the running backs constantly There's a lot
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: of upside in his fantasy score. And he had a
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: respectable score last week. But if he plays that whole game,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: he would have easily gotten 100 rushing yards, I feel like.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: So I think the price discount here, I think he's
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: a really, really good play. You don't have to pair him.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: That being said, I don't think either of these pass
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: catchers at the top of the list here in RCW
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: and Lozier Brooks are going to be garnered very much ownership. So, like...
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And that's the thing. If this isn't your Mark Stoops
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Kentucky of the last 12 years, it's just boring. Like,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: there's a chance that Kentucky, like, can have some fantasy relevance. So, yeah,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, this is real sneaky for me. I'm
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: definitely going to be overweight on this game as a whole.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Probably nothing for cash, though, right?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Not really.
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: Maybe you can talk yourself into Keelan Russell just because
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: he's such a dual threat floor, high ceiling kind of guy.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: I think Kentucky we're still waiting on to see. Willie
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Stein is the new head coach. He was the Oregon
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: offense coordinator. You mentioned tight ends. Tight ends have always
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: been a focal point of the Oregon offense. We want
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: to keep that in the back of our heads down
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: the road when Kentucky is going to be viable on
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: the slate, which will be coming up down in the season.
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Baxter is obviously talented, but maybe a one-off from one
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: of those guys in Kentucky, maybe Keelan Russell, but this
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: is a good football game to watch.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Not something that we can track a ton of volume
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: to right now at this point.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is going to be a good indicator of
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: what we can expect from Kentucky the rest of the season.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: And we'll be looking at them in the future. I'm
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: sure they have Texas A & M next week. So
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll be on the slate. And I think
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: playing Alabama will give us a decent enough gauge on
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: how they handle, uh, you know, these sec teams. And
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: then unfortunately I doubt they're going to put Kentucky, South
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Alabama on the slate after that, but maybe we'll get lucky.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: Now we can just can the rest of the show, honestly,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: because this is going to be the best game of
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: the day. We have Mississippi state, the Bulldogs come into
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: town against Minnesota. Camario Taylor, absolute stud last week. He, we,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: we talked about it in our discord. He was our
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: core quarterback. I think both you and I, Ian had
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: him in our initial core. And he paid off in
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: a big way. This is going to be an interesting
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: matchup because one of the strengths of Minnesota's defense is
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: their edge rushers in the defensive line. And one of
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the weaknesses of Mississippi State is the tackles. So if
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the D-line is going to dominate, you want somebody like
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Kamario Taylor back there. And I think he can still
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: get there even at this price. He's talented enough. Fluff
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Bothwell is certainly capable as well. I imagine he's going
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: to get a little bit more volume this week in
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: a more competitive game. Um, Colin Wilson will probably eat
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: into his usage a little bit, but I don't think
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: it's enough that it would shy you away from Bothwell
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in terms of raw production. It's just 7,500 is, is
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: going to cap, uh, his upside a little bit more.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: And then Anthony Evans, probably not priced up enough. 6,100
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: is not only fair, but I think underpriced for him, uh,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Clear number one receiver, targeted early and often. And the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: thing I like about him the most is the Gophers
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: have strong cornerbacks, but they don't go down into the slot,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: which is where Anthony Evans plays. So I really like
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: him even at 6,100. Then you do get a little
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: bit of a value with Reagans and Johnson, just not
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: as much of a value on Reagans as you had
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: last week. He was, I'm pretty sure, min price on
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: the night slate. So definitely some things to love on
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: this Mississippi State side. On the Minnesota side, the most... embarrassing,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: actually the second most embarrassing thing DraftKings has ever done.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: The first most embarrassing was putting a slate on that
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: showdown last night. The second most embarrassing is pricing Drake
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Lindsey at 5,300. He's not going to get you much
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: with his legs, but against this Mississippi State defense, he
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: can easily get 16 points and 3X in the air.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: It's a very safe floor, I would think. So a
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: price play, if nothing else for Lindsey. And then Darius Taylor,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a top running back in college football. Even if he
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: can't get there on the ground, he's a pass catcher.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I know he's an FCS opponent, but they fed him
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: a lot in that game, and he still had three touchdowns.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: The one slight concern I had is that Eastern Illinois
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: had seven tackles for loss, and five of them were
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: against the starters. So if I were to have pause
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: with the Gopher side, that would be why. And then
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think Javon Tracy is going to return two
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: punts again this week. I mean, it's possible, obviously. But
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: He is the wide receiver one, seems to be Drake
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Lindsey's favorite target. I thought it'd be Jalen Smith being
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the one or two this year, but Noah Jennings in
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: from Cincinnati. They've loved him at spring camp. They loved
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: him at fall camp. They gave him some looks in
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: the first game, and he's 3,400 and likely the number two.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And then Pierce Walsh at tight end had some touchdown upside,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: but that's about it. A little bit more on the
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: cash side in this one, Ian, than we've seen so
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: far on the slate.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you covered so well in depth, I'm
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: not going to add too much to it. Kamario Taylor
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: is the kind of cash quarterback exactly we want to see.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Close spread, really competitive game environment, pretty high total, complete
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: dual threat guy, high upside, high floor. Love Kamario Taylor
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: this week in this spot. You know, like you mentioned,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: fairly priced receivers on both sides. Drake Lindsey, his price
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: is just way underpriced. Again, like slight home favorite, 20.5
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: point team total.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Quarterback with some pedigree. Just really, really good spotting.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: He's also, I will add, don't be afraid if you
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: are playing this game to play Lindsey with Darius Taylor.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: If you were asking that question, they are totally fine
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: to pair together. Not only does Taylor catch a ton
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: of balls, but Lindsey is so far underpriced that it's
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: really okay. It's a way to get the salary savings there,
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: to get to the volume, what Taylor is, the volume
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: that we look at. And Kamara Taylor's Kamario Taylor is
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: also a guy that you can play naked if you
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: don't have a salary, if you don't want to pay
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: up to stack with any receivers. That's also totally fine
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: to do with these guys, just the way that they
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: play and the way it builds out. But really nice
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: plays here, really nice game environment for that.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, Drake Lindsey, like, obviously he's so cheap.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I kind of think that he might be like overused,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: like by himself, almost like forcing a double stack and
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: 150 build with Drake Lindsay. And of course, Darius Taylor
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: can be included in that. Um, yeah, not a ton
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: to add. I mean, obviously you've got a resident golden
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: gopher expert, so I don't need to add too much there. Um,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: and then yeah, Mississippi state. The only thing really that
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I'd have to add is right. Dragons did lead this
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: team in area ours last week. Um, That's probably like
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: if I play him and like, like Raggins, Johnson or McGee,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: it's going to be, I'm going to force it with
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Taylor and only Taylor. Thoughts a little too expensive for
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: me right now, but boy, that's your ultimate pivot. If
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: you don't want to play Taylor Evans, they're going to
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: garner a ton of ownership. So yeah, not a ton
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: to add pretty sick spread in total here though. So
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: should be, should be something. I mean, that has overtime
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: game written all over it.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: It's, Yeah, that would be phenomenal. And for real-life football,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: this is going to be a little bit of an
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: indication of what this season could go like for either team.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think either is in contention in their respective conferences,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: but if one side gets just blown out, it's not
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: going to be a good look for the season. At
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the very least, you want this game to be competitive,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: which it looks like it's going to be. All right,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and we talked about some underpricing. There's a little bit
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: more in this game. We have Arizona at BYU. Not
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: a great team total for Arizona. but Fafita is another
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: guy who feels like he is in this eight to
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: nine K range on small slates and then gets squeezed
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: into the sixes and sevens for the, the bigger slates,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: but he's definitely shown he's capable. The running back room
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: is weird because you got Ruscano, you got Quincy Craig
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: names that were there last year. And then you see
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Ismail Mahdi who was just deemed eligible thanks to a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: temporary or order. So he didn't play last week. He's
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: getting thrown into the mix. So the running back room
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: is weird, murky waters. The wide receiver room is where
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: there's some underpricing. Trey Spivey at $ 4, 800, I think, is
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: slightly underpriced. But even more underpriced is Giovanni Richardson. It's
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: almost like DraftKings. got messed up with the name change.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: He was Gio Richardson last year and he got a
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: ton of playing time, had a ton of production. And
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: now he's a min price number. I mean, you could
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: argue he's number one, two or three because Chris Hunter
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: is there as well. And he was a top option
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: for a lot of last year. So three stellar wide receivers,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: one of them at min price, just a pretty egregious mispriced.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: And then on the BYU side, Bear Bachmeier in the
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: six Ks with rushing upside. LJ Martin should get a
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: bulk of the carries anyway, but now Simone Moa, Sione
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Moa is down too. So that should feed even more
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: usage his way. An AK quarterback priced at 6,500. That
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: screams cash to me. Maybe you get a little bit
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: of Devon Ika and then Preston Rex is still there.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: And one interesting thing in the receiver room is legend glass.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Solid wide receiver had some production last week, but they
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: also get them involved in the run game. So maybe
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: we see that creep up with Moa not on the field.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: But then, you know, JoJo Phillips is a familiar name
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: at BYU. Kyler Casper's in from Oregon. And we also
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: know BYU loves their tight ends, so Lions is on
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: the table as well. Just not– it doesn't seem like
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: a great game environment for DFS, but the pricing just–
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and volume, or the usage and pricing is what's drawing
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: me here.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm talking usage and volume right there.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: That's where you speak the cash language, and we got
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: an underpriced Number one, number two, starting receiver, a min
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: price guy, automatically consideration for cash there just because of
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: he's going to be on the field.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: And we hope he gets targets because he's going to
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: be on the field. And, you know, a couple of
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: catches can do it there.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: And then on BYU side, you got an underpriced dual
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: threat quarterback who was an all conference type player last year.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Preseason all conference type player, just kind of really underpriced.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: And we have the preseason big 12 quarterbacks.
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: Player of the year in lj martin who's been a
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: stud the last two years it priced up way heavier
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: than this on on other slates i'm not really sure
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: why that price is that.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Way i.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know i mean unless somebody you should project
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: to touch the ball 20 to 25 times as a
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: seven and a half point favorite you know it's not
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: too crazy of a blowout uh big conference game for
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: both teams Really like to look there. And I think
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: we've got some options on both sides of this game,
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: but I think the BYU guys are definitely worth a
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: look at some one-off plays. If you're trying to get
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: a little bit different in some spots, LJ Martin is
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: not going to get you very different in some spots.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: I think he, you know, he screams as one of
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: our cash type running backs, but I think some of
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: the other guys can get you a little bit different.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: And that's more Kenny, what you think about that situation?
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you play LJ Martin, Gio Richardson,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: you're definitely not getting different on this slate. That being said,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: those are like... I mean, really, when you look at
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the positions, as far as the value goes, those might
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: be the first two clicks from a point-per-dollar perspective. You know, BYU...
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: The spread seems bigger than I would just generally think.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I guess, I mean, LJ Martin obviously kind of speaks
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: for himself. Gloucester, I just... Parker Kingston had a really
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: awesome role. I don't know if Glasker's going to take
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: that same role or if it's Phillips or Kasper. I
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: still think the debate's kind of out on that. Obviously,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Glasker had five touches and three touchdowns last week. Clearly,
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: he has some explosiveness there. As far as Arizona goes...
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Running back room is too muddled for me, but Spivey
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: is probably going to go overlooked just with Richardson. I mean,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: he's a very solid play, too, but he's probably going
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: to go more overlooked than he should. And last year,
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: this guy, Trey Spivey, he survived on touchdowns. That's not
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: really something you can quantify, but, like, there's– I mean,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: he's got 30-point upside definitely here. You know, trailing game script,
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: tight game. um it's i think it's pretty interesting for
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: he's spivey's been more the gpp player richardson's your cash
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: plug and play salaries savings guy um and then you
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: know i guess i will say arizona's kind of been
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: a little goofy with their wide receiver rotations um sometimes
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: um but i feel pretty good about spivey and richardson
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: and their roles beyond that not very confident um So, yeah,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: this should be interesting. Hopefully LJ Martin doesn't spend like
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: half the game on the sideline coming in and out
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: because he is coming off a soldier surgery. I mean,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: he's fine, obviously cleared and everything, but he just he
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: seems like one of those guys just gets hurt all
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: the time. So, yeah.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: That's probably his biggest risk because we've seen it happen.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: And then like, yeah, Trey Spivey is a guy I
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: consider like a 3-3-3 guy, three targets, three catches, three touchdowns,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: a guy that goes overlooked. And then first drive of
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: the game, he has one catch for 70 yards and
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: a score. And it's over if you have him in
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: your lineup, like your lap in the field at that point.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: But yeah, a lower total that I do think has
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: some fantasy goodness. But now we're getting into some points.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Central Florida, Pittsburgh. Alonzo Barnett looked very, very good against
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: a very, very bad football team. And he's got some
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: dual threat to him. So at 6,600, I mean, it's
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: a good price for it. But I feel like a
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: broken record. We have a lot of dual threat quarterbacks
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that feel underpriced on this slate. The running back room
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: is a little bit split. Duke Watson definitely seems like
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: the number one. And he's sub 5K. And he can
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: catch passes. But then Swint did get involved. Chambers got
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: involved some later in the game as well. And then
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the pass catchers are a little bit spread out. Darian
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Wade do feel like the top options. And they're cheap.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: But then we could see Dwayne Thomas back in the
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: mix this week. And then, you know, Wade and Charles
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: is still there. All of these guys are cheap, though. So,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: you know, Dwayne Thomas is back. I don't know that
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: I'm running to play him at forty five hundred. It
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: would probably have more impact on these other guys for me.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: But then on the other side, another underpriced quarterback, not
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: dual threat this time, though. Mason Heinzel, maybe the most
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: under like might be more underpriced than Drake Lindsay is.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not expecting seven touchdowns again, but I wouldn't argue
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: with you if you said that's what his ceiling is.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: So 7,600, another one of those first click sort of guys.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: It does look like Ja'Kyron Turner is going to be
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: the one, but at 7,900, I just feel like on
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: this slate, he's going to get squeezed, but with a 31,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: almost 32 point team total, there's no reason he can't
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: get that flame next to his name and probably sub
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: 5% ownership. So that, that, Screams GPP to me. And
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: then the wide receivers. I mean, last week, it was
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: like the Oprah pass catchers. You get a touchdown and
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you get a touchdown and you get a touchdown. Seven
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: touchdowns to seven different players in this pass catcher room.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Hicksley and Knight are the guys, but we talked about
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: it just last night, guys. Pittsburgh historically has like three
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: guys and you never know on a game to game
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: basis which one it's going to be. Kenny, we'll start
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: with you on the GPP side. How are you looking
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: at this Central Florida-Pittsburgh game?
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really great game environment. I guess kind
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: of starting with the UCF side, I think Barnett's might
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: go a little overlooked. And he does, like Darian Wade,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I do really like pairing them with Barnett. I really
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: think that both of them could go overlooked. on this slate.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: And it's really, so Pittsburgh historically has like a pass
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: funnel defense. So really stop the run. They will allow
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: you to check the ball. Don't know if that's as
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: much the case this year, just because we have like a,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: not one good game sample, but generally speaking. So that
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: kind of leads me like, you know, to play the
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: more the passing on the UCF side. I think Duke
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Watson's a very fine play at 4,800. He's usually super efficient. He's,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: he's definitely a guy that can get there on limited volume,
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: especially at that price. But that is like one edge
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: you can play here as a Pittsburgh just likes to
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: stop the run. And, and, um, as historically done that, um,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: you know, Heinzel, the more and more I think about him, like, gosh,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: if he's the highest owned quarterback on the slate, um,
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: like the, like the nature of the slate, you probably
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: want like 303 might not be enough for Heinzel. Um,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: and I'm curious, like, I think he's going to be
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: played by himself and like cash and small field type
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: single entry stuff where it's like cash type builds. So
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I think Heinzel, like I'm really going to over stack
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: him and hope for a performance like we had last week. Um,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: That being said, and like Turner, I think it's fine.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Kind of how like Darius Taylor was to be like
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: in a double stack with Heinzel. I think I'd still
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: want to receive her regardless. But if I'm going to
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: get that double part, I don't mind Turner. Desmond Reed
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: had some games where he was like the pass catcher
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: you wanted to have with the Holstein at the time,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I guess. So it's not something we haven't seen before.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: I like the Turner call, Bill, where he's sub-5%. He's
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: too expensive, but it's a really good game script for
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: a seven-point home favorite with a high-priced running back that's
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: going to be lower owned. I i think that i'm
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: in on that um don't really have a lean with
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: the receivers like i guess me i don't think their
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: roles are going to be all that dissimilar so i
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: kind of prefer the lee and the knight and just
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: taking the salary savings i will say malik knight is
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: a um He's definitely more of a deep threat. I
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: can't remember all the stats off the top of my head,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: but I know he had two long touchdowns in the
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: spring game. If you look at the stat line at
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Western Carolina last year, he had a really high yards
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: per catch. So, yeah, he's kind of a sneaky deep
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: shot guy. But, yeah, this is a really good game.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely going to have a lot of pieces of
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: both of them. I just want to be really careful
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: how I do it to avoid, like, being completely the
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: same as everyone else.
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just say, yeah. Go ahead, Bill.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Just quickly, one thing I want to touch on because
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Hamhock mentioned Pittsburgh being a pass funnel. They played Miami
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: of Ohio last week, not typically known as a passing team.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Like they're a slow, sloggy team. And they still threw
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: for 262 yards and had a 75 yard touchdown pass
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: against the starters of Pittsburgh. It was in the first
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: half and that game was 28-14 in the second quarter.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't a blowout until later. But if you
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: have any questions about Pittsburgh's past defense, that's one thing
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: we can take from a lopsided matchup, I think. And
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: it's probably still not quite there.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: And realistically, like one thing I was going to say
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: that Kenny said was a lot of people are going
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: to play Crenshaw solo. which in cash lines, you're going
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: to see that you just got plug and play guys
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: in there. One offs with the high floor, high ceilings
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: that are really good cash plays that stand out in
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: this game.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: And then the next game we'll talk about as well.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: Something that I would put in your mind to think
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: about is maybe the way to get different with some
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: of those guys is to think about the way that
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: you fill out your lineup to maybe game stack a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: little bit more. Maybe, you know, if you are stacking,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: if you don't want to stack, maybe building it a
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: little bit differently with, um, just some correlation other ways.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: If you don't know which receiver to stack it with,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: maybe you play Barnett as your, as your secondary quarterback,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: as opposed to one of the other underpriced dual threat guys,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: just different ways that you can go about playing some
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: of your, your cash plays to get a little bit
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: of differences because there's going to be some high ownership
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: numbers on some of these guys, this game and then
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: the next game as well.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: When you see guys like Heinzel that project really well
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: have a super high ceiling and a super high floor.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: It's not about whether you play them or not. It's
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: about how you play them when you do. Tambo, our
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: leader here at Ship, it has a saying, it's not
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: about who you play, it's how you play them. And
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: that goes with pretty much every single sport in DFS.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: College football is no stranger to it. But you mentioned
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: in this next game, because there are a lot of
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: points here as well, Cal at Syracuse, the The age-old
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: ACC matchup is what I think you called it, Ian.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, classic ACC rivalry.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: On the California side, we have Jaron Chiavi-Sagapulitelli, who's in
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: that kind of weird zone of pricing again, but definitely
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: has the upside. Adam Muhammad, though, if you thought L.J.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Martin was a plug-and-play, this may be the best raw
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: points and points-per-dollar play on the entire slate. He had
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: 35 touches last week. In a competitive game, we're probably
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: going to get a competitive game here. And at 7,600,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: even if he gets two-thirds of the touches, that is
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: considered workhorse. So that's a name that we're going to
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: be very familiar with when Cal's on slate. Probably going
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: to be late night more often than not.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: And then the wide.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Receiver room, some familiar names from other places. Ian Strong
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: from Rutgers. And then Chase Hendricks from Ohio.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: Underpriced.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Just both underpriced for their target share. One interesting thing
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: about the pass catching room, Mason Minney looked good. and
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: is would have projected very well this week as well.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: But Dorian Thomas is expected back. He was out with
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: an undisclosed injury, but he's in from New Mexico and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: probably tight end one immediately. You know, we might still
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: see a little bit of a split. So there's going
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: to be some questions there until we see it. But
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: on the Syracuse side, Steve Angeli coming off of an
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: injury last year, he's got a ton of potential here
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and his price is at 6k flat. I mean, a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: 30 point team total with a quarterback who can sling
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: it and has a The running back room is going
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: to be pretty murky, though. Talik Hill and Matt Otten
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: are listed.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: As the starters.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Otten is a wide receiver on DraftKings, just FYI. But
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: then Siobhan Anderson got early work after Hill last week,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: so he was in with the starters. And then you
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: have a couple of guys in Juwan Johnson, who finally
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: figured out what position he wants to play after coming
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: from LSU. And then Ahmad Miller, who was a stud
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: at Jackson State. Johnson and Miller... didn't play last week,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: they could easily work into the rotation this week. Neither
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: is on the injury report. Both expected to at least
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: be available. So on paper, it looks like Hill's the
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: number one, but I still think there's more questions in
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: this running back room to be answered. And then speaking
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: of questions, Justice Ross Simmons is expected back. Another min
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: price guy who's proven it in the past and probably
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: a starting wide receiver. And Fran Brown was pretty convicted
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: in saying that he is going to play. on his
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: radio show or the radio show he's on. But then
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: you have Umari Hatcher, who's double the price, but he
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: had a massive game last week. Cole Weaver is also
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: going to be on the field. And the aforementioned Matt Otten.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Is he going to be in the backfield? I mean,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: he's listed as an or starter, but he didn't see
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: work until late last week. But he also lines up
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: from the slot from time to time. So a lot
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: of points, but a lot of question marks. How are
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: you approaching this? I mean, obviously, the score looks good
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: for Cash. but there's still a lot of things we
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: need to figure out.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: I think you highlighted everything, and it kind of mirrors
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: the game we said last time. There's a lot of
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: really good plug-and-play players here, a lot of really good
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: just raw points-per-dollar plays here, a lot of good volume
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: that we see here. Mohamed, one of those top-tier running backs,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: strong Hendricks, top two receivers, and Jelly, three-and-a-half-point favorite, 30-point
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: team total, 6K passing average. quarterback it's just it's kind
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: of outrageous to be honest with you that you see
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: that kind of pricing on a main slate like this
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: with a min price again another min price starting receiver
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: coming off of it so there's so many ways that
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: you can play this game that's going to garner a
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: lot of ownership um Cash perspective, again, you're going to
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: plug and play a lot of these guys as one-offs
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: and whatnot.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: If you just look at the raw points per dollar.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: It's how you play these guys, how you stack them,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: how you're trying to correlate, how you're trying to get
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: a little bit different with it. Are you maybe separating
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: a game stack? Are you bringing the game stack together?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: How are you doing that if you're managing out? This
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: seems like a week that you maybe mix and match
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 4: a couple of different cash lineups, a couple of single
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: entry lineups.
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  Speaker 3: So how are you going to build each of these
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: to be unique?
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  Speaker 4: With these high ownership, high correlated, highly funneled, really good
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: volume plays in here that we're going to see. It
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: makes a really nice puzzle, even from my perspective, when
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: it doesn't seem as obvious, because there's so many good
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: options that are just thrown at us from the volume perspective.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Angeli, I mean, Angeli usually like, regardless of
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: the price of somebody that I'm always pairing or even
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: like double stacking, especially if he's priced up, but I
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: don't think you have to this week with him just
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: because of the unknowns in the wide receiver room. Like I, um,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: like obviously we're supposed to get a Ross Simmons back. Um,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: to what extent, like nobody really knows. Um, I, I'm
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: probably just going to, as far as the receivers go,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: I'm probably going to play Hatcher and Weaver force them with, um,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: and jelly, um, I'm going to force Angeli to be
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: ran back with the Cal guy, but I honestly don't mind.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: And this is, you can probably do this for cash
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: to just play Angeli and then Muhammad and strong just
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: to get the back and forth that game. Like it's,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: it's really correlated, but it I kind of like a
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  Speaker 2: stack like that. I think the way I'm going to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: handle Ross Simmons is I'm not going to play him
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: in my player pool because And when the afternoon games
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: roll around, I'm going to kind of evaluate the situation more.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: If we get some concrete info that he's starting, I'm
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: going to go through and find some Geo Richardson lineups
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: that are crap and pivot to Ross Simmons or even
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: the UCF guys. I don't think they'll get much ownership,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: but I think he's just kind of an afternoon pivot
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: on a dead lineup for me right now to try
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: to just completely sneak past everyone with a big performance
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: from him. The Cal side... JKS is honestly too expensive
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: for what he does as a quarterback for fantasy purposes.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: The only way I'm playing him is in a double,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: and I honestly don't even... Usually I wouldn't mind Muhammad
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: and JKS ending up in a lineup together as a
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: third piece to a double stack, but I really don't
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: like it here because I think if that happened, they're
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: both too expensive enough to where it would take away
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: from each of them to where you couldn't get to
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: where you needed to to win a GPP. Um, so
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: I think I'm just going to play JKS and stick
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: specifically with like the strong Hendricks and minis of the world. Um,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: if Dorian Thomas is all the way back, I don't
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: even know if I'll play mini. I might just like
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: force JKS with just those two receivers. Um, but it
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: kind of feels wrong not taking a shot on JKS
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: and 150 build. Um, Muhammad's probably my favorite running back
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: on the slate. Like when you consider matchup and, um,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: volume and everything like Martin, like Martin and even like Taylor,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: like or even Shepard we're about to talk about like
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: the matchup is a little scary this one seems like
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: the safest and it's still not necessarily the best Yeah,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: I guess I just kind of realized we had all
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: these guys right in the afternoon. But, yeah, that's all
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: right there. Well, one game after another. But, yeah, that's
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: really all I have on this game. It's a great, like,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: game-stack game. Just, gosh, I wish we had more clarity
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: in the Syracuse receiver room. Like, I mean, and even, like,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Tyson Russell, like, if I'm not getting my guys confused,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like he was, like, a top-five wide receiver prospect. Like,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: he might even have been a five-star someplace.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: No, it's the other Russell. Oh, okay.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: The other Russell, he, he's still out. He's still hurt.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Okay. That's what it was.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: I was like, why aren't they playing that guy?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: That guy was in the basketball team too, but he's,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: he's out still.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Okay. Sweet. Well, that's all I have there. Yeah.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: And one thing you mentioned that's super important. We have
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: two min price wide receivers that should not be min
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: price at their peak. like if they're fully healthy and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: getting their usage, Ross Simmons and Richardson should not be
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: min price, but one of them is garnering ownership. So
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: it's a perfect opportunity to pivot, especially like you said,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: if you're behind and you need a pivot for the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: afternoon games. We saw it in week one, the weekday
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: between Trimble at Illinois, who we'll talk about in a second.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: And then Antonio Meeks, both min price, both in similar spots,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: both on favored teams. And it ended up being Meeks
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: when all the ownership went to Trimble. So Uh, it's
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: not a apples to apples comparison, but I think it's
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: close enough that it's worth mentioning. And yeah, I put
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: on X that it feels like a week that I'm
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: going to be at the bottom for a few hours
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: and then hopefully surge once the two 30 games start, um,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: at least early, early looks, uh, and the last game, uh,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: hit the like button before we get out of here.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: And if you guys have any last second questions, throw
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: them in while we talk about this last game too, but, uh,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Duke at Illinois, a game that, Duke got spanked at
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: home last year. We thought it was going to be
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: a lot closer and just was not. Here's where you
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: decide if you're going to go dumpster diving. Walker Eget,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: priced like a Temple quarterback. But maybe worthy of it
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: because if they're just going to hand the ball off
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: to Nate Shepard the entire game, what's the difference? Why
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: do you even need a quarterback? So, yeah, Nate Shepard
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: obviously a stud last week. Definitely a workhorse. And then
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: the pass catchers. we'll just go as the game plan
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: goes and go as EGA goes. I don't know that
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: there's any one particular guy that sticks out to me,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: especially with how the game went in week one against
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: what appeared to be an inferior opponent. And now this
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: week they have a tough matchup on the road in Illinois,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: a team that handled business last week. Caden Hauser actually
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: got a price dock, even though he performed really well.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: And they still have a 29 point team total. So 7,400
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: middle ground, probably overlooked, but Definitely has the upside for four,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: maybe even five acts if they throw the ball a lot.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: But then Khalil Valentine and Aiden Laffery are in a split.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: But Valentine did seem like the number one, one A
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: out of those guys. And then another pricing position I
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: just don't understand, Collin Dixon and Hudson Clement not getting
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: priced up. Love both of them as cheap as they are.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: Collin Dixon should probably be in the six to seven
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Ks and Clement should at least be in the five Ks.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: And then the aforementioned Trimble didn't do a whole lot
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: last week, but still on the field, still got some targets.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: So at 3,300, he's one of those guys that's not
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: going to get a ton of looks because of the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: other 3K receivers on the slate. But how are you
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: approaching this game? I mean, it's still a decent total
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: and competitive game. There's still a lot to love in
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: this game, especially, I mean, Nate Shepard is expensive, but
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: still catching eyes in cash, right, Ian?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's obviously two players I think further
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: those two obvious cash plays, Nate Shepard touched ball. I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: think like 40 times last week, wouldn't expect anything less.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: The whole offense is going to run through him. It's
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: a matter of, are you willing to take the stand
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: against them?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: If you want to fade Duke and that would be
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: the fading Duke.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: Because they have the lowest team, total biggest underdog of
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: those guys that we mentioned at the running back room.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: And he is the highest price one. He's definitely a
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: cash consideration guy. He's going to be in a lot
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: of the lineups. He's going to be very heavily owned.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: he is the definition of a cash play running back.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's just kind of how it is. And
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: then Colin Dixon, the same side of the other side
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: of the receiver, very fair priced, underpriced target, hot top
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: receiver of a past passing quarterback. I mean, everything you want,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: those are, they're going to be highly owned. So you
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: got to make decisions there. There's a lot of decisions
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: to be made, a lot of funneling, but those are
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: really hard guys to pass up. comes to building a
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: cash flow. Again, it comes to the question of how
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: do you build them? How do you play them?
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: And how do you take risks with them or around them?
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Duke just, I don't know if you're a
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: little handier than me, Bill, but I feel like they
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: ran like an obscene amount of plays last week, like
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: up in the 80s. I could be wrong. And then
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Shepard had like 40 carries but was on the field
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: for like 50 snaps. I guess it was just kind
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: of a weird thing. I can't remember exactly how that
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: shook out, but this Duke team, Walker Eagott sucks. I
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: can't believe I even played a little bit of him
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: last week. Like I just, I knew he sucked and
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: I just got, I'm like, Oh, please. Do you have this?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: And then yeah, I got sucked into that. And I'm not,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: I'm not making that mistake again. Nate Shepard. I mean, obviously,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: the volume is huge, but I think Duke, like, what
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: does Duke do when they get in the third and eighth? Like,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: are they going to hand it to Shepard, like, where
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: he gets eight yards? Like, I don't, I just think
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: that this is, like, I think Duke kind of sucks besides, like,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: Nate Shepard, and I think it's just a bad, like,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: environment for him to, like, really succeed. Like, I'm hoping
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: that the ownership holds is similar to the other three
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: kind of stud running backs we talked about in the afternoon, because, like,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: I want to be really under that. Like, he's the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: most expensive player I kind of tend to lean that
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: everybody's going to start to feel that way as Saturday
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: morning rolls around because it's a lot easier to play
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: the two guys that are a few hundred bucks cheaper.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: LJ Martin, who's almost two grand cheaper. But yeah, Duke,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not very thrilled about them. Illinois, so I wasn't
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: really interested in Hauser. He did have a rushing touchdown
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: last week, but These receivers are just, I mean, they're
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: projecting so well, and it's more of a, like, guys
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: are hurt, and they're going to have more volume rather
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: than them, like, just being, like, Illinois having, like, a
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: high-volume passing attack. I still really like both of them,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: or both the two top guys there. They are going
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: to pull some ownership, so I don't really know how
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: to handle it. I think Hauser might get pulled because
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: of them, just the natural stacking of them. I don't
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: really know what I want to do with Illinois. Like,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: it wouldn't shock me if Illinois, like, just kicked the
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: crap out of Duke. Like, I just, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: I think Duke's really bad after that performance last week.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I just, yeah, like, this seems like the least likely
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: to shoot out of the next, of the three games
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: previous to this one. Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: make me feel warm and fuzzy.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did run 75 plays. Nate Shepard had
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: 35 carries and three catches. And to answer your question,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: just scrolling through the play-by-play, when it got to third
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: and long, they had a couple of passes, but I'm
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: seeing like third and 12, Nate Shepard 12-yard run. Third
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: and nine, Nate Shepard run for two yards. Like, they're
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: running the ball in third and long. So, I mean,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: they're going to run him into the ground. Like, he
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: better be the most durable college football player ever. in
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: the nation if they're going to keep doing this.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: That, that covers the slate. I do want to quickly
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: do one more plug because we have a nightstone as well.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: So we're not just covering the main slate. We do
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: cover the night slate. Obviously this stuff gets finalized a
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: little bit later, but we do have full coverage Saturday,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: main and night slate for college football. Obviously we have
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: projections going out tonight at ship at nation for the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: two gamer. And it's a pretty decent two gamer and,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: some competitive-looking games, some high upside guys. And I do
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: want to quickly mention, too, we have the Stone 2.0.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Since we don't have a Stone for a two-game slate,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: the college football one is not currently active, so I'll
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: show you NFL. And this isn't finalized either, but you
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: can build your lineups. If you want to make sure
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: to lock Justin Jefferson in because they're in a rivalry
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: game and he's going to go for three touchdowns on Sunday,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: lock him in. If you want to lock in Josh Allen,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: you know you want Jefferson and Allen. Then you optimize
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: the lineups. Oh, and if you want to save this lineup,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: you can click that up here. You go into your
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: save lineups, it's there. I think you can save up
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: to 20 and then you can download and export, import
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: right into DraftKings. So super seamless. Everything from the stone
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: is right in front of you in a lineup builder.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: So if simplicity is the name of the game, that's,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: that's where you want to be at, at ShipIt Nation too.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: But like I said, the discord is great. Obviously I
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: think we have the best college football team in the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: country and that's, That's not a stranger to other sports
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: as well, but we'll wrap things up here. Any final
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the Saturday's main slate guys?
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: It should be a fun slate.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: Hang, hang tight, you know, be aware of some news,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: but we should have some good matchups and some fun
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: DFS plays.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: Let's have some fun this weekend.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably okay. If you sleep through your alarm, admit,
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: the first set of games on Saturday. But yeah, that's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: pretty much it.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Unless you're a membership at Nation, then get up and
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: be at the stage an hour before lock. Then you
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: can go back to bed until the afternoon games. But
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: we'll get out of here and end as we do
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: every week with the big guy Degenerate 75's rule number one.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: College football is fun. Enjoy building your lineups. Enjoy the sweat.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: I'll be thankful that we have college football to watch
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: on TV and we get to play daily fantasy sports,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: college football and NFL is back big slate on Sunday.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: A lot of things to be thankful for a lot
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: of things to look forward to and don't take any
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: of these days for granted. We never know when it's
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: going to be our last. And with that, we'll see
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: you in the college football streets this weekend. Let's go
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: out and ship one for the big guy.