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INTERVIEW: Mysonne Details His Role On Zohran's Transition Team, Influencing Policy, Justice + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: on here but ll Kolbay Lauryn LaRosa is and we
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Speaker 1: got a special guest Man. He was recently appointed the
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Speaker 1: Zoran Mundani's Transition team. Definitely a friend to the room.
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Speaker 1: The good brother Mice on his hand with something.
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Speaker 2: Mice, thank you for having what's going on with your
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Speaker 2: autographics for me? Man? This is the first let me see,
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Speaker 2: this is the first time I actually see I don't
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Speaker 2: even have not even see it like in person. I've
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Speaker 2: just seen it online. Wow.
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Speaker 1: Well, before before we get into that, what does your
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Speaker 1: role on Zoran Mundani's Transition Team entail?
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Speaker 2: It entails being an advisor, being able to talk about
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Speaker 2: policies that we think should be implemented, from criminal justice,
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Speaker 2: from public safety, also appointments people that we think should
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Speaker 2: be a part of his staff that in that area
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Speaker 2: that we feel best fit, what it is that he
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Speaker 2: wants to accomplish, and what represents us in the community.
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Speaker 1: So what power do you have to actually influence policy?
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Speaker 1: Because you know, people will be like, oh, it's just optics.
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Speaker 1: You get somebody like Mason as well respected in the city, like,
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Speaker 1: what power do you have that.
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Speaker 2: It's twenty of us. It's twenty of us on in
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Speaker 2: that committee. Right. So we sit down and we talk
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Speaker 2: about policy. We have different meetings and we send Okay,
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Speaker 2: this is the policy we think we shouldn't act and
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Speaker 2: he gets to look at that based off you know what.
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Speaker 2: We come together and he makes his own decision. We
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Speaker 2: don't just tell him what to do. We all we
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Speaker 2: can do is advise and give recommendations.
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Speaker 3: Hater love mom, Donnie Right. People have been yelling that
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Speaker 3: they want this, They want people in the community, from
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Speaker 3: the community helping to make decisions.
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Speaker 4: Why are people so upset that's happening?
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Speaker 2: Because you know, people don't like change, especially the people
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Speaker 2: that don't want to see change. They want to make
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Speaker 2: it seem like it's a bad thing. It doesn't make
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Speaker 2: sense that you mad that somebody who's experienced a criminal
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Speaker 2: justice system on both fans, who was wrongfully convicted inside
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Speaker 2: prison for seven years, came home and started working with
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Speaker 2: youth inside prison, started you know, dealing with reform organizations.
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Speaker 2: Who has influenced policy within prisons. Who knows, you know,
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Speaker 2: the mind state of the young kids that's going in
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Speaker 2: and out of these prisons, that's actually working with him.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't make sense that somebody would be mad. So
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Speaker 2: I love what ma and Mandami is. Manlek right now
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Speaker 2: is doing right now because he's really trying to encompass
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Speaker 2: what New York looks like, the people inside New York,
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Speaker 2: the voices of New York. I'm about to do start
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Speaker 2: doing roundtable meetings and convenience with formerly incarcerated individuals in
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Speaker 2: which we sit down and we talk about what it is,
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Speaker 2: what it looks like to actually be productive members of society,
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Speaker 2: what do we want to see, What do we realize
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Speaker 2: is wrong with the system, so he can actually get
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Speaker 2: a real understanding of what's happening inside the system.
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Speaker 1: I try not to take too many things personal, man,
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Speaker 1: But when I saw this on the front page of
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Speaker 1: the New York Post, you labeled as a crime boss
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Speaker 1: Mandonia points rapper who served seven years for armed robbery
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Speaker 1: as justice advisor, it actually offended me as a person
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Speaker 1: with a criminal record, because it's like, damn, my son
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Speaker 1: went to prisoner what nineteen ninety nine.
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Speaker 4: How owe you twenty yep, twenty one. You are forty seven,
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Speaker 4: forty hyol grown man.
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Speaker 1: Now you've done nothing since you've came home but given
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Speaker 1: back to your community, but tried to teach others not
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Speaker 1: to follow the same path.
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Speaker 4: And you still can't escape that.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, but I say all the time, with
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Speaker 2: the devil means for bad, God of you for good.
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Speaker 2: They got a good picture. So I actually like this
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Speaker 2: picture you're wearing. You know what black I'm saying when
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Speaker 2: you look is boycott black murder on the shirt. And
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Speaker 2: it had and we actually sold out, so you can
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Speaker 2: you can go buy some more on the website if
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Speaker 2: you want to, until freedom dot com. But it actually
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Speaker 2: shows what it is that I represent. So what happened
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Speaker 2: was for me when I see I received so many congratulations,
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Speaker 2: Like people didn't even realize that they were actually trying to,
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Speaker 2: you know, discredit and defame me. People were just like,
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Speaker 2: while you you you're doing something with the mayor, you're
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Speaker 2: actually you know, a part of the justice advisory system
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Speaker 2: with the mayor. So it was it was it didn't
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Speaker 2: even get the effect that they wanted to get. So
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Speaker 2: it was for me, it was like you know what,
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna utilize. I'm not gonna allow them to
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Speaker 2: utilize that to discourage me from the work that I've
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Speaker 2: been doing for the last over a decade. You know,
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Speaker 2: with until Freedom, we've been doing this anti violence work.
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Speaker 2: We've been doing criminal justice work for the last over
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Speaker 2: a decade. So for me, it's like I'm gonna continue
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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna utilize this this notoriety in which you'all
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Speaker 2: mean for bad, I'm gonna utilize it. I'm gonna make
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Speaker 2: sure that you know, the world gets out. I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: make sure that I represent formally in cost raised and
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Speaker 2: justice impacted people properly. So when they say, oh we
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Speaker 2: can't do I want I want to be a representative
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Speaker 2: to say that Mason showed you that it's definitely possible
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Speaker 2: that you can be successful.
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Speaker 3: Did that because I mean, you've been doing this for
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Speaker 3: a long time, like you know what I mean. But
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Speaker 3: did this moment and how like a New York Post
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Speaker 3: or you know wherever else mentioned you, did it turn
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Speaker 3: up something new or like make you think of like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: we need to make sure we're doing this over here too,
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Speaker 3: Like was there like a blind spot that like you
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Speaker 3: saw through all this.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a blind spot, but
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Speaker 2: it definitely was a level of urgency and made me
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Speaker 2: feel more, you know, motivated to do the work that
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Speaker 2: we've been doing to motivated to bring certain voices because
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Speaker 2: you know, I say this all the time, there's so
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Speaker 2: many formally incarcerated people who are doing so many positive
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Speaker 2: and you know, just really good things that nobody talks about,
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Speaker 2: you know, And that's the thing I want to highlight.
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Speaker 2: I don't want because a lot of people formally incarcerated
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Speaker 2: don't believe that they can do certain things. They don't
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Speaker 2: believe that they can be successful, and most the public
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Speaker 2: perception is that too as well. So I want to
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Speaker 2: be able to highlight people that come home that have
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Speaker 2: been doing this work for years, who've been doing positive
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Speaker 2: things for years, who've been productive members of society. You know.
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Speaker 2: They always people act like they don't know Alan Iverson
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Speaker 2: was formally incars, you know, like it's so many people
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Speaker 2: that we talk about that was forming in Customers Command,
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Speaker 2: Malcolm Iction is formally incarcerated, and it's like we just
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Speaker 2: we look down on the stigma and when we talk
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Speaker 2: about formally incarcerated a lot of people don't act like
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Speaker 2: they know that Black people are the highest falsely accused
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Speaker 2: and exonerated people in the world. So so a lot
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Speaker 2: of us, like I said, I was falsely accused of
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Speaker 2: a crime. I spent seven years in jail for crime
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Speaker 2: I didn't commit. I went to trial for my case.
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Speaker 2: So it's like a lot of us just because there's
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Speaker 2: the stigma of us being arrested and incarcerated, they make
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Speaker 2: it seem like we're a threat to society and we
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Speaker 2: just criminals. And some people have committed crimes, but some
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Speaker 2: people like when you go to the justice, when you
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Speaker 2: go to the the prison, right, it's supposed to be rehabilitation.
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Speaker 2: So if a person does his time and he comes
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Speaker 2: on and he's productive, why do we act like he
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Speaker 2: can't be productive.
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Speaker 1: And they're focusing on your past. But that is the
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Speaker 1: very thing that qualifies you for the role. How do
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Speaker 1: you feel about that?
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Speaker 2: I think that is so ironic or it's just disingenuous
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Speaker 2: to say that when we got to a president that
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Speaker 2: got thirty four felonies and his whole cabinet is full
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Speaker 2: of criminals. Right, So, but we look at especially black people,
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Speaker 2: we act like we can't do certain things. And I
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Speaker 2: say all the time, this is those closest to the
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Speaker 2: problem are close as the solution, you know, sitting in
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Speaker 2: the cell for seven years, you know, seeing how the
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Speaker 2: injustice system works, seeing how inmates are treated, and how
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Speaker 2: people are sitting. A brother just was killed, you know,
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Speaker 2: he was executed, and they found out four or five
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Speaker 2: years later that his DNA didn't match it. He was
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Speaker 2: actually innocent. So these are things that happened every day
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Speaker 2: in the justice system, and people like myself who've actually
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Speaker 2: experienced it will understand that and see the blind spots
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Speaker 2: because somebody who just went to school and studied law
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Speaker 2: never understood those realities. A lot of times, I've watched
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Speaker 2: a lot of elected officials. I've watched people who studied
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Speaker 2: the law and then they actually got incarcerated and they
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Speaker 2: came home and have conversation with me like I didn't
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Speaker 2: realize what was going on, and they becoming biggest advocates
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Speaker 2: for prison reform before, you know, those type of things.
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Speaker 2: So I just think that I've been blessed with the opportunity,
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Speaker 2: you know, and God created for me for such a
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Speaker 2: time as now. You know, I never understood when I
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Speaker 2: was incarcerated. When you sitting in jail for seven years
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Speaker 2: for a crime you didn't do, you don't understand what
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Speaker 2: you're in there for. It, especially you got a million
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Speaker 2: dollar record deal. You're sitting in the jail cell and
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Speaker 2: you're like, why the hell am I sitting in jail?
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Speaker 2: And it was days that that was my conversation. And
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Speaker 2: you know what, I always said that I'm not gonna
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Speaker 2: allow this system to break me because every day that
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Speaker 2: I don't grow, and I don't learn, and I don't
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Speaker 2: do things positive in the system. One So when I
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Speaker 2: came home and I started realizing, oh why I was
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Speaker 2: in there. I started realizing that that our people are
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Speaker 2: overly incarcerated, especially young black and brown mass They're overly incarcerated.
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Speaker 2: Some of them are just lost, they don't even identify
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Speaker 2: with things. So I came home with a different perspective
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Speaker 2: is to say, you know what, I'm gonna pour into
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Speaker 2: my community different I'm gonna empower these young boys. I'm
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Speaker 2: not gonna make them think that prison is some way
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Speaker 2: to be. But I'm also not gonna make you believe
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Speaker 2: that because you was in prison, that you can't be successful.
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Speaker 2: And I wanted to come home and model that behavior.
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Speaker 2: And I think for the last twenty year that I've
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Speaker 2: been out of jail. You know, my crime happened in
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Speaker 2: ninety nine. It's twenty six years later, and y'all still
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Speaker 2: talking about a crime that happened twenty six years later.
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Speaker 2: But y'are not looking at the track record for the
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Speaker 2: last twenty years that I've been home and I've been
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Speaker 2: on this ground putting put boots on the ground of
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Speaker 2: doing this work.
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Speaker 3: Are you going to take any legal action against some
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Speaker 3: of the headlines and stuff that came out.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. You know, I'll discuss it
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Speaker 2: with some lawyers and see what happens. But really, right now,
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Speaker 2: I really just want to focus on just doing this work.
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Speaker 2: You know, shout out to me and my Daminus team,
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Speaker 2: you know, my team until freedom. We've been doing this work.
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Speaker 2: And you know, like I tell people, this is this
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Speaker 2: is a volunteer. I'm not getting no check for this.
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Speaker 2: This is a volunteer and not because I really believe
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Speaker 2: in what's supposed to be going on in our communities.
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Speaker 2: You know, we're going to start forums where we talk
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Speaker 2: about civic engagement with formally in custory we talk about,
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Speaker 2: you know, how hard it is for them to be employed,
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Speaker 2: the you know, the collateral damages and causes that happen
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Speaker 2: till you come on from jail and you can't be
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Speaker 2: a bar bro. You can't be adore all these things
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Speaker 2: that have We want to talk about those things, and
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Speaker 2: then we want to talk about how what's the next
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Speaker 2: step forward. You know, women that's being incarcerated, We're going
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Speaker 2: to start these convenience and we're gonna have them all
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Speaker 2: at the table. Like that is one of the biggest
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Speaker 2: voting blocks in the world that nobody is really tapped into.
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Speaker 2: Formally incarcerated people. A lot of them don't even realize
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Speaker 2: they can vote, you know how strong they are. There's
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Speaker 2: millions of people who are formally incarcerated that have really
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Speaker 2: just lost belief in the system. So I me being
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Speaker 2: on the inside understanding how it can make change. How
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Speaker 2: somebody like when when you get somebody like Mandami in
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Speaker 2: in Mandani in office right now, and you you get
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Speaker 2: behind them and you you push the agenda of what
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Speaker 2: it is. You know, because we're going to push the agenda.
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Speaker 2: People think, oh you you and you with the government. Nah,
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Speaker 2: if they do something wrong, I'm gonna be outside protest
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Speaker 2: to Mandamie too, because that's what we do. Like we've
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Speaker 2: been just like when Dublasio was in there, we helped
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Speaker 2: de Blasio get an office. When he didn't do what
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Speaker 2: we did, we was at the when he was at
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Speaker 2: the presidential we stood up inside the DNC and screen
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Speaker 2: that what happened to a regarda arrest Daniel pantulet wer regard.
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Speaker 2: Just like when may Adams got elected, we was I
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Speaker 2: was with him too when he started doing things and
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Speaker 2: letting the police police do things to community members. We's
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Speaker 2: outside protested. So it's no different. As long as he's
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Speaker 2: you know, doing what he's supposed to do for the
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Speaker 2: community and agenda for the community, we're gonna stand with
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Speaker 2: him and we're gonna we're gonna give our input and
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Speaker 2: we're gonna stand beside him. But the minute he stops,
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Speaker 2: then we're gonna be outside with the people.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you touched on that because you know a
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Speaker 1: lot of activists often fear being absorbed by politics. So
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Speaker 1: how are you protecting your voice and integrity while working
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Speaker 1: with this transition team?
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Speaker 2: I mean, you have to work with people that actually
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Speaker 2: are in positions to put policy to make the real
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Speaker 2: changes you want, and I've seen it done. Shout out
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Speaker 2: to my brother Jimini Williams, Like we've worked with Jimini Williams,
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Speaker 2: you know, and we worked with numerous different you know,
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Speaker 2: my brother Yusuf Salam from the Central Park, the exonerated,
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Speaker 2: exonerated five exactly. So it's people that I know in
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Speaker 2: positions that have actually on things in our community. So
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Speaker 2: I know that you have to have those levels of relationships.
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Speaker 2: But those people, they also know that when you do
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Speaker 2: something wrong, we're gonna be outside your office saying that
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Speaker 2: you gotta get it right. We're not gonna we understand
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Speaker 2: that you have our best entry, but the minute that
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Speaker 2: you don't, then we're always gonna hold you accountable. So
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Speaker 2: I understand people's, you know, fear that because activists get
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Speaker 2: aligned or stand next to certain politicians and people in office,
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Speaker 2: that they're gonna lose their autonomy. But we just not
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Speaker 2: those type of people. We've been fighting against anything that's
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Speaker 2: not for our people. We're gonna fight against every time.
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Speaker 4: Man Mayor Young, Well, that said Mayor Young. Andrew Young
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Speaker 4: was up here.
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Speaker 1: And Andrew Young said, the same people who supported him
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Speaker 1: and helped him get elected. He said, as soon as
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Speaker 1: he won, they were outside protesting in his front of
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Speaker 1: his office and he was like, what are y'all doing?
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Speaker 1: He goes, they said, you the man. Now, Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: we got to push you to make sure you do
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Speaker 1: what you said you was gonna do.
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Speaker 2: And that's what it is, man. It's about accountability. It's
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Speaker 2: about understanding that I work for the people. I do
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Speaker 2: not work for the government. When I'm inside these rooms,
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Speaker 2: when I'm having conversations, when I'm at these tables, my
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Speaker 2: objective is always to get what's necessary for the people.
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Speaker 2: You know, So it never changes, no matter how much status.
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Speaker 2: That's just not how I'm built. You know, I've done
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Speaker 2: too much time. I've been in the streets. I know
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Speaker 2: the ills and the spills inside our communities, and I
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Speaker 2: know I want them, the community to know that every
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Speaker 2: time that I'm at a table, our voice is there.
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Speaker 2: It's not just for me, Like I said, this is
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Speaker 2: a volitier. I don't get it down to do this work.
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Speaker 2: It's not for me. It's for me to make sure
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Speaker 2: that the work and the people are represented.
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Speaker 3: Popularly, you talked about until freedom, Like you guys send
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Speaker 3: it next to Mayor Adams and now what you're doing
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Speaker 3: with mom, Donnie?
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: I think when hip hop gets involved or anybody from
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Speaker 3: the culture gets involved in politics, people pay attention a
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Speaker 3: bit more. But then like now, people are easily flipped right,
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Speaker 3: Like you're on the front of the New York Post
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Speaker 3: and the support isn't the same. What do you think
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Speaker 3: politics or the system owns hip hop or people from
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Speaker 3: the culture like you that you don't get.
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Speaker 2: I think like it owes proper representation, right. What happens
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Speaker 2: with a lot of politicians is a shout out to
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Speaker 2: man Dommie Again, he didn't run from when I got
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Speaker 2: when this happened and they talked about it. He talked
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Speaker 2: about the necessity to have somebody who's been through the system,
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Speaker 2: you know, at the table with other weed. Like I said,
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Speaker 2: is a whole transition team of four hundred people. It's
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Speaker 2: twenty an hour in our criminal justice and community support,
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Speaker 2: but it's over four hundred people, and everybody at that
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Speaker 2: table has a voice, and everybody represents somebody different or
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Speaker 2: a different genre, a different demographic inside of New York City,
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Speaker 2: and those voices need to be at the table. What
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Speaker 2: I think that politicians need to do is elevate certain people,
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Speaker 2: especially in hip hop. Don't leave us because what happens
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Speaker 2: is when something goes wrong or they don't and you
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Speaker 2: standing up there. I've had this conversation with Pap whose
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Speaker 2: Pap was like I was on the front line and
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Speaker 2: I was standing and these politicians left me out the drive.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. When you start getting political,
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Speaker 2: too political for hip hop, they move away from you.
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Speaker 2: And the politicians move away from you too because they
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Speaker 2: don't no longer have the value and you no more
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Speaker 2: because you lose your value in your community. But for me,
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Speaker 2: I've always stand on what I stand on, so I
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Speaker 2: don't care about what politics think. If I stand by
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Speaker 2: a politician, that means that that politician represents what I
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Speaker 2: feel at that moment. The minute that that politician politician
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Speaker 2: doesn't represent what's the needs of my community or what
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Speaker 2: I stand on, that I don't stand on them, So
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Speaker 2: don't I don't deal with no blanket like you always say.
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Speaker 2: I'm not with no party. I don't care about the
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Speaker 2: Democrats Republicans. I care about people, and especially black people
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Speaker 2: in our communities because that's what I am, and I
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Speaker 2: know that we are highly impacted by anything that goes
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Speaker 2: on the government. So when people are talking about, oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm not political this and if you ain't at the table,
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Speaker 2: then you're on the menu. But that's the reality of
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Speaker 2: the situation. These people are making laws, they are going
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Speaker 2: to be laws passed that are going to affect you.
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Speaker 2: If you're looking at this, if you're looking at this
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Speaker 2: administration right now, and you don't see how our people
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Speaker 2: are being infected, how people can afford groceries, how they're
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Speaker 2: taking away everything that says black anywhere, that a black
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Speaker 2: woman are getting unemployed, unemployed at the highest rates ever,
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Speaker 2: like we're getting locked up. Everything that I told you
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Speaker 2: they was gonna do is what they doing now. So
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Speaker 2: if you still want to play this that you're not
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Speaker 2: political and you're not gonna be involved in the game,
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Speaker 2: then cool, You're just going to be a victim of circumstance.
16:19
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit around and be a victim of circumstance.
16:21
Speaker 1: What's one compromise you're not willing to make, even if
16:24
Speaker 1: it creates political tension between you and Donnie.
16:27
Speaker 2: I'm not willing to make compromises where you take away
16:32
Speaker 2: things in our communities that are necessary. Right, I'm not
16:35
Speaker 2: willing to make compromises where we know that violence interruption
16:39
Speaker 2: and CMS work has been doing phenomenal work over the
16:46
Speaker 2: last decade in our community and you don't support that.
16:49
Speaker 2: I'm not willing to compromise where you don't put certain
16:52
Speaker 2: things inside schools, because this is one of the things
16:54
Speaker 2: I want to implement, is where we have emotional intelligence class,
16:58
Speaker 2: we have alternative to suspension. Last, we know that once
17:01
Speaker 2: you start putting kids and putting them suspending them in
17:04
Speaker 2: junior high school, they not coming back to school. So
17:07
Speaker 2: if you're not willing to if you're not willing to
17:09
Speaker 2: get the root causes or what crime is in our community,
17:12
Speaker 2: if you're not willing to educate and put the resources
17:14
Speaker 2: in our communities. If I, if I see that those
17:17
Speaker 2: things are you not doing, that's a line in the
17:19
Speaker 2: sand for me. If you if you're willing to stand
17:22
Speaker 2: by and allow police to abuse people like Mayor Adams,
17:25
Speaker 2: a police overs a punch of the woman in the
17:28
Speaker 2: face and he told me she shouldn't have been screaming.
17:30
Speaker 2: Once you start doing that right there at that point
17:33
Speaker 2: that me and you, we were on different sides of
17:36
Speaker 2: the spectrum, So I don't. That's where I drawed a line.
17:38
Speaker 2: When you when you're willing to allow the police to
17:41
Speaker 2: abuse our community, or you're willing not to make sure
17:44
Speaker 2: that resources that need to come into our community to
17:47
Speaker 2: prevent violence and prevent crime, if you're not willing to
17:50
Speaker 2: do that, then that's where I draw the line.
17:52
Speaker 1: What convinced you that Zoran Mundani was serious about transformational
17:57
Speaker 1: change and not just using like progressive language.
18:00
Speaker 2: That's a good question, right, because I watched zoron for
18:03
Speaker 2: a while, and you know, I think I had after
18:06
Speaker 2: this last election, I had just fairly much just been
18:09
Speaker 2: kind of done with politics and just you know, politicians
18:13
Speaker 2: in general. But just listen, just I listened to him
18:15
Speaker 2: for a while, right, and I just kept paying attention.
18:18
Speaker 2: And then when he won the Democratic nomination, I said
18:21
Speaker 2: to myself, well, he's going to be our mayor, right,
18:24
Speaker 2: so I want to have a conversation with him, and
18:27
Speaker 2: through the resources that I have and people that I know,
18:29
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I want to set up conversations.
18:32
Speaker 2: Shout out to Tamika. I want to set up conversations
18:36
Speaker 2: with black men and people for my community, because they
18:38
Speaker 2: don't even hear him and he sounds good, but I
18:40
Speaker 2: want to be able to look him in his eyes
18:42
Speaker 2: and have real conversations with him. And he came into
18:45
Speaker 2: those conversations. We had about two or three of them,
18:48
Speaker 2: and he was very attentive right, and he was on
18:51
Speaker 2: He was on board with the things that we were saying.
18:54
Speaker 2: And he did it didn't sound like it was political
18:57
Speaker 2: gibbor jazz like the average person does. I I've been
19:00
Speaker 2: around life positives and he seemed really authentic and he
19:03
Speaker 2: stayed true to that, and I watched him be attacked
19:06
Speaker 2: for it all the time. And he kept saying, we
19:08
Speaker 2: need violences to rupt us. We need to make sure
19:11
Speaker 2: that we have mental health inside our communities. We need
19:13
Speaker 2: to make sure that police is not the first line
19:15
Speaker 2: of defense in every situation. Like those are things that
19:18
Speaker 2: will tell me. He said, we need to make sure
19:19
Speaker 2: that the school program is that black boys are graduate.
19:22
Speaker 2: All these things that he was talking about. When he
19:24
Speaker 2: sat down with us, everybody felt that same authenticity. And
19:28
Speaker 2: then when he built this transition team, and I walked
19:30
Speaker 2: into auditorium with four hundred people, a lot of them
19:33
Speaker 2: grassroots organizers that I seen throughout the years. For the
19:37
Speaker 2: last over a decade, and everybody was in that room,
19:40
Speaker 2: and he sat there. He said, we're gonna get criticism
19:43
Speaker 2: and we're not gonna all agree. And I know that,
19:45
Speaker 2: and that's why I'm putting this team together because I
19:47
Speaker 2: don't want everybody that agrees with me. I want different
19:49
Speaker 2: walks of life. I want different ideologies. I want different ideas,
19:53
Speaker 2: and I want us to come up what New York
19:55
Speaker 2: actually looks like. And that for me, was the first
19:57
Speaker 2: time that I've ever seen somebody do. I watched three
20:00
Speaker 2: or four men's coming office. They get their regular they
20:02
Speaker 2: get their homeboys, and the transition team, they get their
20:05
Speaker 2: homeboys in it. But he really put together apparatus that
20:10
Speaker 2: really is going to represent New York City. So I'm hopeful.
20:15
Speaker 2: I believe that he's really gonna try. I don't think
20:16
Speaker 2: that he's beholden to a political system. I don't think
20:21
Speaker 2: he needs money or anything. I think he really wants
20:24
Speaker 2: to see change, you know. So if I'm right, if
20:26
Speaker 2: my gut feeling is right, then we're gonna be good
20:28
Speaker 2: for at least the next four years. But if not,
20:30
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna be outside protests.
20:33
Speaker 4: I already be getting really challenged behind closed doors.
20:36
Speaker 1: Oh hearing about this one call with miss Erica.
20:40
Speaker 2: For she came into the transition meeting right and she
20:47
Speaker 2: called him out. She's like, well, I see certain people
20:50
Speaker 2: in here that's been a part of the status quo
20:52
Speaker 2: that you got in your system already, and and they
20:55
Speaker 2: ain't been doing nothing. You know, all they doing is
20:57
Speaker 2: these people is they investigating these kids thirteen and fourteen
21:01
Speaker 2: for four and five years instead of coming to us
21:03
Speaker 2: and say, yo, this was going on so we can redirect.
21:05
Speaker 2: They just want to put cases on our babies. Like
21:08
Speaker 2: we trying to save these babies, and they putting cases
21:10
Speaker 2: on these kids. And he stood up and he said,
21:13
Speaker 2: what you're saying is really understand. I understand what you're saying,
21:16
Speaker 2: and that's what we need. We need your voice because
21:19
Speaker 2: those are the things that needs to be heard because
21:21
Speaker 2: a lot of us don't have that perspective. Her and
21:23
Speaker 2: she's gonna always do that. And even her, she was like, Okay,
21:26
Speaker 2: well maybe we got some but she you know, Erika
21:28
Speaker 2: ain't gonna she ain't got all. She's not gonna submit
21:31
Speaker 2: to nothing. But you know, I think at this point
21:33
Speaker 2: it's a lot of us who are skeptical it's a
21:35
Speaker 2: lot of people at that table who not here. They
21:38
Speaker 2: don't want status quo, they don't even agree with government
21:41
Speaker 2: or nothing, but they believe that this situation is possible,
21:45
Speaker 2: you know. But once again, if it ain't possible, then
21:48
Speaker 2: we're gonna be outside tearing you up.
21:50
Speaker 3: What about when he like when mom Donnie does things
21:53
Speaker 3: like when he goes and meets with Trump. I know
21:54
Speaker 3: he got a lot of like pushback from some people
21:56
Speaker 3: because they were like, really smiley smiley in the meeting
21:58
Speaker 3: or whatever. Until freedom, y'all are very much like, if
22:01
Speaker 3: we won't rock with you, we don't rock with you.
22:03
Speaker 3: What we said is what we stand on in your
22:05
Speaker 3: face or behind your back whatever. Right, how do y'all
22:07
Speaker 3: deal with conversations with him about stuff like that? Because
22:10
Speaker 3: now people are like, but you guys are sitting next
22:12
Speaker 3: to him, and that we know of for until freedom,
22:14
Speaker 3: y'all we went and see you guys end up meeting
22:17
Speaker 3: with President Trump.
22:18
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I'm not the man, right, That's what
22:19
Speaker 2: when you know what I'm saying, That's why when they
22:22
Speaker 2: say run for political officers, I don't want to do
22:24
Speaker 2: that because I don't want to do politics. But I
22:26
Speaker 2: understand that being the mayor, understanding that this is the
22:29
Speaker 2: president and federal aid that's needed for New York City
22:32
Speaker 2: has to go through the president. I'm gonna have a
22:33
Speaker 2: conversation with you. I'm gonna sit down as the mayor.
22:36
Speaker 2: I understood it what I have done. No, that's why
22:39
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be the man. But understanding. But I believe
22:41
Speaker 2: when I watched that, it looked like Trump was happy
22:44
Speaker 2: to be in his president. Didn't look like he was
22:46
Speaker 2: just happy to be in Trump's president. And he called
22:47
Speaker 2: him a fashions in his face. And to me, that's
22:50
Speaker 2: what he didn't waiver from what he said he was doing.
22:52
Speaker 2: He said he sat down, he told him, this is
22:54
Speaker 2: what we need inside of New York City, and this
22:56
Speaker 2: is where and now we've had the conversation. Right, It's
22:58
Speaker 2: just like two warriors on the war. You see two
23:01
Speaker 2: generals go to war. Don't mean that we not at
23:02
Speaker 2: war no more, but we discussed in terms of war.
23:05
Speaker 2: I'm explaining to you, look, if you stop this right now,
23:08
Speaker 2: then we don't got to go to the war. And
23:09
Speaker 2: you're saying, well, I'm not gonna stop that, and you say, okay,
23:12
Speaker 2: so you sure you're not gonna stop that. All right,
23:13
Speaker 2: we've met. We shook hands. Robert de Niro and al Pacino.
23:16
Speaker 2: They they respect, they may have had a level of respect,
23:18
Speaker 2: and they shook hands, but it didn't stop, you know,
23:21
Speaker 2: Alba Pacino from shooting him down at the end of
23:23
Speaker 2: the movie. So that's what happens in these type of situations.
23:25
Speaker 2: He met with the president. Now if he's and now
23:28
Speaker 2: if he stops his agenda, if he stops trying to
23:31
Speaker 2: push his agenda, because now he's trying to be you know,
23:34
Speaker 2: cool with Trump, then once again, you just one of
23:36
Speaker 2: those that fell by the wayside, because we watch Eric
23:39
Speaker 2: Adams do that, right, So if you follow them for that,
23:41
Speaker 2: I would be disappointed. I just don't really see it.
23:44
Speaker 2: I think the meeting was, you know, par for the course.
23:46
Speaker 2: It was saying, hey, I met with the president, right,
23:48
Speaker 2: I told him what I wanted, and I'm still going
23:50
Speaker 2: along with my agenda. Now, don't say that I didn't
23:53
Speaker 2: try it. Ain't nobody gonna be able to say, oh,
23:54
Speaker 2: look you you and you're not even savvy enough to
23:57
Speaker 2: sit down with the president. No. I sat down with
23:59
Speaker 2: him and he said he agreed, right, So but my
24:01
Speaker 2: agenda has always been my agenda. Now, if he changes
24:04
Speaker 2: his agenda, then we got to issue with him. But
24:06
Speaker 2: if he doesn't, that meaning with Trump is just supposed
24:09
Speaker 2: to be what it's supposed to be as just being
24:11
Speaker 2: the leader. That's why.
24:12
Speaker 1: That's why I don't like when politicians adopt the language
24:15
Speaker 1: of activists.
24:15
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
24:16
Speaker 1: If you're gonna use language like fascism, it does look
24:19
Speaker 1: confusing to people when you say you can work with
24:22
Speaker 1: a fascist, because that's never worked in the history of
24:24
Speaker 1: man and vice versa. You called him a communist. That's
24:27
Speaker 1: why you saw Trump's people sow up and arms like, Yo,
24:29
Speaker 1: you told us this dude was a communist. But now
24:31
Speaker 1: y'all just buddy buddy inside the Oval office. But that
24:35
Speaker 1: is politics. But I think I'm just a person that
24:37
Speaker 1: think words matter.
24:38
Speaker 2: Man. I think words do matter. I think it matters more.
24:41
Speaker 2: And that's why we have an inside outside game. Right.
24:44
Speaker 2: It's just like what Michael said. You know, if you
24:47
Speaker 2: don't respect doctor King's peace, then you're gonna get what
24:50
Speaker 2: we got over here. It was we're the alternative, right,
24:52
Speaker 2: Like when they show this to me, he talks about
24:55
Speaker 2: it a lot. They show stokely Carmarker walking alongside Doctor
24:58
Speaker 2: King and they both talking about what's going on, and
25:01
Speaker 2: Doctor King said, you know, we're gonna rally and we're
25:03
Speaker 2: trying to unify and stokely carmakers like burning everything. No,
25:07
Speaker 2: and they walk in the same path. So the reality
25:10
Speaker 2: is everybody's words may be different, but we still got
25:13
Speaker 2: the same agenda. And as long as his agenda is
25:16
Speaker 2: to stop fascism, I don't care if you stand there
25:19
Speaker 2: and have a conversation with him, if you're saying yo,
25:21
Speaker 2: because you know what I've studied, right, and I didn't
25:24
Speaker 2: understand it and shout out to I forgot went with
25:27
Speaker 2: the organization and we went to study the principles are
25:30
Speaker 2: nonviolence doctor King's Kenya non violence, and I never was
25:34
Speaker 2: on board with it, But when I really got down
25:37
Speaker 2: to how strong and how mentally strong, it was what
25:42
Speaker 2: the principles are and how you go about it, how
25:44
Speaker 2: you you identify with the issue is you don't attack
25:48
Speaker 2: the person with it. You attack the issue, and then
25:51
Speaker 2: there's a level of reconciliation after I attack and we
25:54
Speaker 2: go to war. And even when I win, it's not
25:56
Speaker 2: me winning over you, it's me winning over the situation,
25:59
Speaker 2: and then after I went over situation, they're supposed to
26:02
Speaker 2: be a level of reconciliation because a lot of times
26:04
Speaker 2: people don't even identify their wrongs, and sometimes after they lose,
26:08
Speaker 2: then they may be able to have reconciliation. And when
26:11
Speaker 2: you really sit there and think about it, it takes
26:14
Speaker 2: real strong minded and leadership to have that type of foresight.
26:18
Speaker 2: So when I'm thinking about this right now, of course,
26:21
Speaker 2: Trump to us is the Antichrist. Were looking at him.
26:23
Speaker 2: Everything he's doing is just wrong to us. But man
26:26
Speaker 2: Mondami seems to have a level of understanding and vision
26:30
Speaker 2: that most leaders don't. You know, He's able to sit
26:34
Speaker 2: there and call you the truth and still smile and
26:36
Speaker 2: still go about what he's doing and then make you
26:40
Speaker 2: like it. I've never seen somebody get called a fascist
26:42
Speaker 2: and said, well just call yeah, yeah, that's right, I'm fast.
26:44
Speaker 2: This guy's great, you understand saying how who else has
26:47
Speaker 2: that level of christ The only person I've seen do
26:49
Speaker 2: that was when Natod Martin Luther King. He said we
26:52
Speaker 2: need this to happen, and he said make me.
26:53
Speaker 1: We also got to remember Trump as a con artist exactly, so,
26:56
Speaker 1: so Trump might be playing to everybody's playing.
27:00
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying. But the thing is at
27:02
Speaker 2: the end is who gonna win. I think what's happened
27:04
Speaker 2: is Mandammi has became the star, and Trump loves the star.
27:07
Speaker 2: He collses up to anybody that's the star. That's what
27:10
Speaker 2: he is. He's a groupie, so he you know what
27:12
Speaker 2: I'm saying, He coaxes up to anybody that this is
27:14
Speaker 2: the fact.
27:15
Speaker 4: It's just the fact.
27:16
Speaker 2: You know. But at this time, I think Madami has
27:18
Speaker 2: a real agenda and he has the people behind him.
27:21
Speaker 2: Like he's literally going outside in the streets and just
27:24
Speaker 2: putting a mic outside and talking to random people, just
27:28
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what do you want inside New
27:29
Speaker 2: York City? You know what I'm saying, Like, I've never
27:31
Speaker 2: seen the man that that's that interested in really galvanizing
27:35
Speaker 2: the people. You know, So you know, we'll see, Like
27:38
Speaker 2: once again, I could be wrong, but you know, I'm
27:40
Speaker 2: really usually a good judge of character. You know, sometimes
27:42
Speaker 2: I get people to doubt the benefit of that when
27:45
Speaker 2: they never really benefit. But I'm giving her a benefit
27:47
Speaker 2: of that. Hopefully you know he will, but it lets again,
27:49
Speaker 2: if he's not, we're gonna be out there protest.
27:51
Speaker 1: How do you want young organizers watching this moment, watching you,
27:55
Speaker 1: watching Tamika, watching the Erica Ford on this transition team,
27:58
Speaker 1: how do you want them to understand the relationship between
28:01
Speaker 1: protest and policy.
28:03
Speaker 2: Shout out to Angelo two. He's actually he's on the
28:05
Speaker 2: Prime Justice word. But I want young protesters to understand organizers, right,
28:10
Speaker 2: because I don't want you to just be protesters. I
28:12
Speaker 2: want you to be savvy. I want you to be intelligent.
28:15
Speaker 2: I want you to be strategic. I want you to
28:18
Speaker 2: look at this moment as progress, right because we all
28:23
Speaker 2: got to do different things. There's an inside outside game.
28:25
Speaker 2: And you know, for years we sit outside and we
28:28
Speaker 2: was the protesters, and people say yeah, y'all can go
28:30
Speaker 2: out there, and they made jokes you got your pick
28:32
Speaker 2: a signe and it was cool, but we watched incremental
28:35
Speaker 2: change happen. Right. We got we got incremental change, and
28:38
Speaker 2: we protested enough people to it. They said, okay, what
28:40
Speaker 2: do y'all want? Right? And then they sat down with
28:42
Speaker 2: us and then we start saying, okay, we want this,
28:45
Speaker 2: and they start and we started watching capitulate. When we
28:47
Speaker 2: look at talk about the CMS, Tamika and Erica Ford
28:51
Speaker 2: and at those they sat out there and protested the
28:53
Speaker 2: mayor until they got millions of dollars put into that
28:58
Speaker 2: CMS system to when they were nothing, you know, when
29:02
Speaker 2: they was told that there was no data and they
29:04
Speaker 2: would never get a dime. And now it's up to
29:06
Speaker 2: over one hundred million that's given to CMS inside of
29:09
Speaker 2: New York City because people did that work. So I
29:12
Speaker 2: want you to be understanding. I want you to be relentless.
29:15
Speaker 2: I want you to be fearless, but I want you
29:17
Speaker 2: to understand that there's the process and that there's an
29:20
Speaker 2: ultimate goal. And if you just protest and you don't
29:23
Speaker 2: see things going anywhere, if you don't get yourself, if
29:26
Speaker 2: you're not in positions to actually make change, if you
29:29
Speaker 2: don't have the ears and the wherewithal to touch the
29:33
Speaker 2: people who can actually give policy to actually do things
29:37
Speaker 2: for the community, you're fighting for it and you just
29:38
Speaker 2: fighting a fight for nothing. So it's cool. I told people,
29:41
Speaker 2: I'm tired of having, you know, victories that you know,
29:46
Speaker 2: just being the leader that die. We celebrate our leaders
29:49
Speaker 2: dying at thirty and ain't got nothing, but they kept on.
29:52
Speaker 2: I want to win, you know, I don't want moral
29:55
Speaker 2: of it. I'm tired of moral victories. When do we
29:57
Speaker 2: actually get the victories where we see some change for
30:00
Speaker 2: our people. I'm tired of the story of we watching
30:03
Speaker 2: our people run out in glory and they say, yeay,
30:05
Speaker 2: y'all gonna be the first ones. We know, all y'all
30:07
Speaker 2: gonna die, but it's gonna be brave. You brave because
30:10
Speaker 2: you went out there. And I don't want that no more.
30:12
Speaker 2: Like when we're gonna be strategic and we go through
30:14
Speaker 2: the back door and we actually take over the castle
30:16
Speaker 2: and we put our people in position, When we're gonna
30:18
Speaker 2: start doing that, like, I think our strategy has to
30:21
Speaker 2: change and it has to evolve what we're dealing with.
30:24
Speaker 2: It's just like when we look at Trump and we
30:27
Speaker 2: look at jasmine crackers, and we look at the people
30:29
Speaker 2: that are meeting fire with fire. We can't keep having
30:32
Speaker 2: the conversations about, oh, this is not how we're supposed
30:35
Speaker 2: to No, this is how it is. You can't fight
30:37
Speaker 2: or fight with one hand behind your back, where people
30:39
Speaker 2: got four and five hands and they jumping you, and
30:41
Speaker 2: you saying but I fought with honor and I did
30:43
Speaker 2: it the right No, Actually, you fought and they killed you.
30:47
Speaker 2: Like I'm tired of just dying, Like, I really want
30:49
Speaker 2: us to win the war. So I want black people
30:52
Speaker 2: and our young activists to be strategic and figure out
30:55
Speaker 2: how do we actually get the things that we're fighting for.
30:58
Speaker 1: I agree with Jall, got one more question, Maybe think
31:00
Speaker 1: about something this now, what's the biggest lie people believe
31:03
Speaker 1: about how change actually happens.
31:06
Speaker 4: And what's the hard truth they need to accept them out?
31:09
Speaker 2: The biggest lie is that people act like if they
31:13
Speaker 2: do nothing, things are gonna change. Right. They say, Yo,
31:15
Speaker 2: I'm not voting, you don't even need to be involved
31:18
Speaker 2: in that system. I'm not gonna be there. I'm not. No,
31:20
Speaker 2: when you take yourself out and you don't have a strategy,
31:23
Speaker 2: like people been not voting for years, there's a million
31:27
Speaker 2: I know a bunch of people that said, I ain't
31:28
Speaker 2: never vote, But so what have you ever got for
31:30
Speaker 2: not voting? What have you never got for not fighting?
31:33
Speaker 2: And I think you know when people think that if
31:36
Speaker 2: you don't go out there, and you're not out there,
31:38
Speaker 2: if you protest and it doesn't know. I've literally watched
31:41
Speaker 2: protests turn into policy. I've literally watched people turn into
31:45
Speaker 2: protesters get into power. I watched literal front line activists
31:49
Speaker 2: get into office. Jimiani william was an activist outside with us.
31:53
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, that use of salon was
31:55
Speaker 2: they were activists on the front line with us at times.
31:57
Speaker 2: So I watched those people getting positions to what they
32:00
Speaker 2: can actually do things. So telling people to not be
32:03
Speaker 2: involved in this system. And if you take yourself out,
32:06
Speaker 2: you more valuable then they gotta come to you know,
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Speaker 2: if you take yourself out, then they don't even they
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Speaker 2: don't even account you, right, because when they start doing votes,
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Speaker 2: they only account for the people that's voting. So one
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Speaker 2: of the other million or one hundred million that ain't voting,
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Speaker 2: they don't care, right, So how do you make yourself valuable? Right?
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Speaker 2: If you don't add value to something, then you don't
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Speaker 2: have any worth. So I think that that's the biggest
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Speaker 2: lies that we act like if we're not involved with
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Speaker 2: the system, that the system is gonna somehow change and
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Speaker 2: it's gonna benefit us, or we can or another thing
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Speaker 2: is that we can money ourselves out of our problem.
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Speaker 2: Money has never changed Black people's situation, not individually. We
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Speaker 2: think individual I know people I've had conversations, Oh we
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Speaker 2: overhere doing this and we over here, okay, but still
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Speaker 2: ninety percent of black people don't have nothing. And you
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Speaker 2: got that right, you and you and twenty people got
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Speaker 2: that right, and y'all invested in that. So how we're
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Speaker 2: is the strategy for ten and twenty and thirty percent
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Speaker 2: of black people to be in power, to be in
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Speaker 2: positions to where they can create generational wealth, to where
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Speaker 2: the majority of us are not struggling, right to where
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Speaker 2: we see power, to where we're more than one two
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Speaker 2: percent of the wealth in America. We've been two percent
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Speaker 2: of the wealth in America since we've been here. When
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Speaker 2: are we gonna grow? What is the strategy for that? Right?
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Speaker 2: So that's what I don't want us to individually think
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Speaker 2: our individualism and our individual success and our individual money
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Speaker 2: and worth is going to help black people. It does not.
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Speaker 2: It is how do we collectively come together and create
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Speaker 2: a strategy to where we're building something, and we're creating
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Speaker 2: something in structures and organizations and build in schools and
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Speaker 2: all these things that are really gonna change our people.
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Speaker 2: So if we're not doing that, and we just because
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Speaker 2: I can people, I don't have to do nothing this.
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Speaker 2: I'm good, you know what I'm saying, but I understand
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Speaker 2: that if I don't do this, and I don't utilize
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Speaker 2: my voice, and I don't utilize every platform that I have,
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Speaker 2: then generations of our people are gonna be suffering.
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