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Don't Call It A Classic? · Hip-Hop Now Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Coming up on this week's episode of Hip Hop Now Podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Don't call it a classic. A couple of albums that
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  Speaker 1: I feel comfortably calling classics. Let's do it. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: jip Hop Now, Pop Fat Mask, did you from the future?
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  Speaker 1: You know what to do? Show as out of my
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  Speaker 1: padfe so disrespect the leg hip hop can say this today.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get right the business. What up, y'all? I am
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  Speaker 1: your host Vegas and this is hip Hop Now Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Now Pod. We are on the road to twenty five
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  Speaker 1: thousand subscribers by the end of twenty twenty five, and
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  Speaker 1: we are at twenty three thousand, fastly approaching twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe by the time this drops we're already be at
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  Speaker 1: twenty four. But let's get right into the business and
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  Speaker 1: do what we came here to do now. In September,
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  Speaker 1: I wrote an article on my substack called don't Call
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  Speaker 1: It a Classic. It was a topic I was going
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  Speaker 1: to do as a bonus episode, which I'm doing right
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  Speaker 1: now on the YouTube channel and on audio podcasting, but
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  Speaker 1: I kind of let it sit for a minute because
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  Speaker 1: I wrote about it and I wanted you to read
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  Speaker 1: about it. Now. I get it, some people read all
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  Speaker 1: they want to read is the title and that's it,
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  Speaker 1: and I get it. But in general, as a hip
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  Speaker 1: hop fan, and I know you're a hip hop fan
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  Speaker 1: because you're watching, we like to talk a lot about
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  Speaker 1: classic albums. What's the classic, what isn't? But more importantly,
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  Speaker 1: is it too soon to call an album a classic? Now?
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  Speaker 1: Old heads will tell you, you know, some of them
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  Speaker 1: will say something crazy like you got to give it
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  Speaker 1: ten years, though we don't even know if we'll be
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  Speaker 1: here in ten years. Okay, so let's not wait to
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  Speaker 1: have that discussion. Some people will tell you the minute
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  Speaker 1: they press play on one song to destroy it as
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  Speaker 1: a classic. You're wrong on s. But if we want
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  Speaker 1: to think about this organically as music fans, as hip
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  Speaker 1: hop heads, typically, you know when an album is special.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you know based off of press and play, and
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  Speaker 1: here they're in the first couple of songs and saying,
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  Speaker 1: there's no way this gets whack with the next couple
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  Speaker 1: of songs. Sometimes you know what's going to happen right now.
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  Speaker 1: You don't run on social media and call it a classic.
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  Speaker 1: But you're listening you like, this might be special, right.
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  Speaker 1: And then most of the time you know, when you're
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  Speaker 1: done listening to one of these albums, you tell yourself,
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  Speaker 1: this is special, this is one of the best of
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  Speaker 1: the year. This could be an all time album. But
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  Speaker 1: I think in a lot of ways, when people talk
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  Speaker 1: about classics, they really just like an album a lot, right.
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  Speaker 1: Whoever else likes it doesn't factor into their enjoyment of
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  Speaker 1: the album. But I feel like certain albums, when you
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  Speaker 1: call them a classic, they are without a doubt good right,
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  Speaker 1: But also their moment in time, you know, musically, and
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  Speaker 1: this goes beyond hip hop, but their moment in time musically,
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  Speaker 1: like when you press play after a year or two years,
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  Speaker 1: you remember the time when you first heard it. You
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  Speaker 1: remember what was going on, what the climate was, what
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  Speaker 1: everybody else was saying about the album. So to me,
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  Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's really easy to just look at an
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  Speaker 1: album and call it a classic. Now, granted, everybody doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to like it, but if there's a general consensus
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  Speaker 1: among hip hop heads, and because we have the benefit
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  Speaker 1: of thinking, well sometimes benefit of social media, then we
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  Speaker 1: can kind of get an idea of the really special
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  Speaker 1: projects based off of from our timeline and people who
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  Speaker 1: we see talk about albums and how they talk about
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  Speaker 1: this one versus that one. So, with all of that
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  Speaker 1: being said, I decided to basically say, okay, since twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: what albums I feel, without a doubt comfortably calling classics.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we're gonna do here today. So if
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  Speaker 1: you read the article, good looking, share it with people.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to read the article is below in
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  Speaker 1: a comment section. Please know that it's not along drawing
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  Speaker 1: out I'm not writing a book about these things. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just stating the facts. But for the benefit of people
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  Speaker 1: who enjoy video, I'm going to share that with you
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  Speaker 1: right now. So let's get right to the business of things.
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  Speaker 1: Don't call it a classic classic album since twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you can see that as I scrolled through it.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna read my introduction. You see the
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  Speaker 1: first one up there, call me old school, not unk,
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  Speaker 1: but considering it hip hop album for classic status takes time.
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  Speaker 1: There are albums that prove they are special the minute
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  Speaker 1: press play. It's rare, but it's possible. Since twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of dope music, but there are
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  Speaker 1: albums that go far beyond such common praise. Shout out
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  Speaker 1: to all the content creators who've covered this topic previously.
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  Speaker 1: Here are a few albums between twenty twenty and twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five I feel comfortable calling classics. First up twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty Stove God Cooks, Reasonable Drought. I mean, some of
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  Speaker 1: y'all just discovered Stove God, and that's fine. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: trying to be elitist. Some of y'all just discovered them,
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  Speaker 1: but I wasn't necessarily one of those to run to it. Also, right,
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  Speaker 1: shout out to the homie Kill. He's like, YO, listen
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  Speaker 1: to this new album of God Cooks. I said, what
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  Speaker 1: kind of name is that? Like? What kind of name
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  Speaker 1: is that? It's called reasonable Drought? Hmm, wow, you evoking
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  Speaker 1: the the essence of another classic and jay Z's Reasonable Doubt.
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  Speaker 1: And then it also said produced by Rock Marciano. Now,
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  Speaker 1: those who know me, I'm not the biggest Rock Marciano fan.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to him as an MC, I don't
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  Speaker 1: hate him, but I'm not the biggest fan. Or when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to the production. I think that dude. I
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  Speaker 1: think that dude holds the essence of boom back in
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  Speaker 1: his soul. And this is exhibit A through z this album.
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  Speaker 1: From the time you press play, especially if you know
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  Speaker 1: Stove God, it's everything you anticipated. The first track, what
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  Speaker 1: is it? Let me see what my right up says,
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  Speaker 1: because I know I wrote it here the break Lights joint.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I can't remember. But nevertheless, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna do that. We're gonna find it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: give me one second, Rose Royce, break Lights right. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why I kept forgetting that. I was mixing
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  Speaker 1: it up with something else. But again, the minute you
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  Speaker 1: hear that beat drop and Stoveguards start flowing over that joint,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I could see why people like this,
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  Speaker 1: And yes, I know the cover's kind of crazy, but
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  Speaker 1: forget that. When I tell you you press play if
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  Speaker 1: you already like Stove God, if you're waiting for the
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  Speaker 1: new album This would be Worth your time. Next up
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  Speaker 1: two thy and twenty one Nas and Hip Boys Magic.
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  Speaker 1: This joint dropped on Christmas Eve when we didn't know
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  Speaker 1: we were even getting another project, let alone within the
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  Speaker 1: same year from NAS and hit Boy, and as you
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  Speaker 1: can see the cover throwback NAS with the fronts and
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  Speaker 1: the Queensbridge Hallway, the album just captured that asseence right
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  Speaker 1: like from songs like Speechless where the beat you just like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: this is what we're doing now. The reason why I
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  Speaker 1: call this a classic, and I chose this particular NAS
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  Speaker 1: and Hit Boy album versus Kings's East III, which I
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  Speaker 1: kind of also feels like a classic, I think because
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  Speaker 1: this one was so I don't know, it wasn't anticipated, right,
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  Speaker 1: We didn't know it was dropping, We didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: it would be. We didn't understand whether that cover meant
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  Speaker 1: something or not. But for anybody who wanted not see it,
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  Speaker 1: Jones to get as close to an illmatic vibe in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, this was it. Dope, concepts, beats everything everything.
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  Speaker 1: It's basically damned and flawless. And for those who may see,
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  Speaker 1: oh well, if it's damn Nick, it can't be Classic. Look,
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  Speaker 1: there songs I skip on Illmatic. I'm not even gonna lie. Now,
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  Speaker 1: there's songs I used to listen to back in the days,
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  Speaker 1: but there's a song or two I would just be like, eh, skip,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So if I could skip
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  Speaker 1: songs are Illmatic, I could skip a song on Magic,
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  Speaker 1: But most of the time I don't. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this was almost just as impactful as King's Disease
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  Speaker 1: three that were be followed up the next year, I believe,
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  Speaker 1: but in its own if you if you was around
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  Speaker 1: during like early nins, like let's just say Illmatic dropped
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  Speaker 1: and then the aliens came and got you and put
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  Speaker 1: you in a time machine, put you in twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: and this is what you heard, Like yo, this is
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  Speaker 1: what NAS is doing in the future. You'd be like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: He's still added Classic next twenty twenty two. Freddy Gibbs
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  Speaker 1: sol so separately. I feel like Freddy Gibbs probably doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a whack release. I mean you can literally go
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  Speaker 1: through the majority of the albums he's put out mixtapes
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  Speaker 1: and feel mostly albums, but and feel like he just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't miss And I didn't think he could do anything
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  Speaker 1: better than what he's done in the past, and I
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  Speaker 1: felt like anything he did up until this point would
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  Speaker 1: just be like more of the same, and not even
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  Speaker 1: in a bad way, but so so separately was special,
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  Speaker 1: especially the deluxe because I know some people don't like
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  Speaker 1: deluxe albums, But what I liked about the deluxe version
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  Speaker 1: of this album is a lot of the deluxe songs
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  Speaker 1: were released prior to this album, So when this was released,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, I was a little annoyed that
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  Speaker 1: those songs weren't on the album, and then they put
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  Speaker 1: them on the album in the form of a deluxe version.
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  Speaker 1: Now this isn't the deluxe cover that you're looking at.
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  Speaker 1: This is the original. But when I tell you samples, beats, bars, fast, slow, concepts, humor,
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  Speaker 1: pocket in and out of pocket, well he's always in pocket,
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  Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, Like his flow is
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  Speaker 1: just effortless over anything. I just felt like, not above all,
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  Speaker 1: but for twenty twenty two, if there was an album
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  Speaker 1: I had to call a classic, it's this one. And
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  Speaker 1: if maybe you you know, always hear about Freddy Gibbs,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know, I haven't really gotten into them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I haven't listened to anything. What should I
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  Speaker 1: listen to? Start? Heead fan. There's plenty of places where
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  Speaker 1: you can start. Start here. You like this a lot,
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  Speaker 1: absorb it, go back and listen to other music. But
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this album is a classic. Next twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three Killer Mike Michael. Now we know this one
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  Speaker 1: of Grammy and all that good stuff. It was in
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  Speaker 1: my top five of the year, obviously with the most
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  Speaker 1: of these projects I'm talking about, and some people like
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  Speaker 1: to do this thing on the internet that says, when's
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  Speaker 1: the last time you listen to it? It's their way
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  Speaker 1: of proving it wasn't as good as you thought it was.
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  Speaker 1: You were just caught up in the hype. I really
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  Speaker 1: hate that, because when's the last time I listened to
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  Speaker 1: mcaveelly All eyes on me? I don't listen to classics
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  Speaker 1: every day all day, even if they knew old or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I go. I got extensive music collection, especially with hip hop,
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  Speaker 1: and I go back to joints and you can go
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't heard Killer Mike's Michael since twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 1: when you go back and listen, you're not gonna be like,
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  Speaker 1: it's not as good as I thought it's great. It
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  Speaker 1: is great. It is as good as you thought. And
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  Speaker 1: for those who heard the New Daylight album and Killer
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  Speaker 1: Mike getting Busy on there, you can go to this album,
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  Speaker 1: you can go to Run the Jewels. This guy can rap.
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  Speaker 1: This guy is thoughtful in his raps. Right, it's not
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  Speaker 1: just somebody who's nice. Him being nice on the mic
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  Speaker 1: goes without saying it takes a little bit more energy
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  Speaker 1: to tell your story. This deep into the game, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's been in the game for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of told his story, but he told his story.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a fantastic way that made it interesting for
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  Speaker 1: you to listen without feeling like, all right, man, where
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  Speaker 1: the joints at? You know, where the boom back? Like
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  Speaker 1: he kind of gave you everything you know, from hip
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  Speaker 1: hop to gospel, all types of vibes. And what I
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  Speaker 1: like about it is he's completely transparent and you believe him. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Some people are going to tell you they came up
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  Speaker 1: through hard times and when they was locked up for
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  Speaker 1: two seconds, or when they was on a corner corner
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  Speaker 1: not really selling anything but sneak of money. You know,
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  Speaker 1: some people will embellish that. But the guys who make
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  Speaker 1: the special music are those who are vulnerable in their raps,
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  Speaker 1: who tell you about things that may not be the
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  Speaker 1: easiest to talk about. And I feel like Michael is
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  Speaker 1: just one example in hip hop of that, and in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, I feel comfortable calling it a classic
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  Speaker 1: back then and right now. Next in twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: Common and Pete Rock teamed up for an album called
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  Speaker 1: The Auditorium Volume One, and I'm not even gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting anything monumental. I didn't know what bad
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  Speaker 1: Common was gonna be in whether he was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: really basic with the bars, and he was. He was, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: He definitely showed up on this album. But Pete Rock
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  Speaker 1: is the all star on this project. What he was
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  Speaker 1: able to do to capture the essence of hip hop
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  Speaker 1: history without being predictable, without its sounding like oh that's
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  Speaker 1: just another version of that song. No, everything was perfect special.
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  Speaker 1: I mean again, some people will say, when the last
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  Speaker 1: time you listened to this album yesterday? Okay, it's great.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Colmon got another classic on his hand,
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  Speaker 1: and so does Pete Rock. Auditorium Volume One is very dope.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming in twenty twenty six, will get volume two.
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  Speaker 1: Will it be a classic, will it be as good?
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  Speaker 1: Who knows? But this one was special, so check it out.
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  Speaker 1: And lastly brand new. I thought to myself, I even
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  Speaker 1: put an asterisk on the side of it. Maybe I'm
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  Speaker 1: just caught up in the hype. Maybe that's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe after this year, when we get other artists and
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  Speaker 1: other albums, maybe even this year, when we get other albums,
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  Speaker 1: I won't be as I'll like it and it will
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  Speaker 1: probably be in my top five, but I won't feel
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  Speaker 1: as bold to call it a classic. It's a classic, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: This is a classic from the first record that lotch
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  Speaker 1: you in from a relatable standpoint, whether your parents are
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  Speaker 1: still here or they passed, everybody is something that everybody
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  Speaker 1: will be able to relate to because at some point
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  Speaker 1: in time, everybody is going to have to deal with that,
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  Speaker 1: right So, even if your parents are here, you probably
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  Speaker 1: think about it, you know, And that song. Initially, I've
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  Speaker 1: always I felt like, damn, why they start with that song?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they should have ended with that, But I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what makes it so dope. Because they start with that,
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  Speaker 1: they tell the story, you feel the pain you connect
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  Speaker 1: with it. But man, when change in Whip starts, it
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  Speaker 1: is a ride from beginning to end, the bars, the flows,
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  Speaker 1: the precision in which they enunciate words so that lines
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  Speaker 1: and metaphors and every punchlines or whatever connect in ways
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  Speaker 1: that maybe on it take you a couple of listeners
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  Speaker 1: to be like, Damn, I didn't even hear when he
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  Speaker 1: said that, them telling their stories without blatantly telling every story.
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  Speaker 1: And most importantly, Malice with the comeback of the Year.
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  Speaker 1: This dude is come Back of the Year, MC of
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  Speaker 1: the Year. I know what Nas was doing rapping on
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  Speaker 1: every one of the seven Icons, seven Legends, and I
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  Speaker 1: know people, especially if this DJ Premier joint its flames,
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  Speaker 1: will want to give it up to him. But I
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  Speaker 1: gotta stick with Malice, because when you've been out of
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  Speaker 1: the game in this way for this long and everything
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  Speaker 1: you touched from this album to your features on Jid's
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  Speaker 1: album and Mob Deep, and you ain't missed a beat,
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  Speaker 1: you sound better. This album is incredible, y'all. And last
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  Speaker 1: but not least, the simple fact that it's all produced
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  Speaker 1: by Pharrell. People love all the tracks, they love this album,
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  Speaker 1: but they be real slow to say Pharrell did it.
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  Speaker 1: Pharrell produced this old joint and I know people saying, yo,
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  Speaker 1: producer of the year, you know Alchemist, But the only
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  Speaker 1: reason why I wouldn't say Alchemist is only because he
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  Speaker 1: put out a lot but everything ain't great. He just
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  Speaker 1: put out a lot of music, so it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like he's overwhelming the category. But this is Pharrell's offering
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  Speaker 1: this album, and I ain't. There may be one track
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  Speaker 1: where people was like, I kind of like that one.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's all things Considered, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I like that one too. I thought it was going
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  Speaker 1: to be the Skip, but I let it rock every time.
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  Speaker 1: I let it rock every time. This album has extreme
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  Speaker 1: replay value. That's what's most important about all of these albums.
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  Speaker 1: I chose extreme replay value, excellent in almost every category, beats, concepts, flows, everything.
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  Speaker 1: So there you have it. Those are five albums since
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty that I feel comfortably calling classics. In the
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  Speaker 1: comments section below, I want you to put five albums
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  Speaker 1: from twenty twenty only five chill, just five that you
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  Speaker 1: if you know, maybe gun to your head you feel like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is a classic, or maybe you feel comfortably calling
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  Speaker 1: them a classic even if you don't have five, maybe
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  Speaker 1: you have three since twenty twenty, let me know what
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