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Getting Psycho with The Band Perry · Inside Country with Wayne D

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Speaker 1: Excited to have these guys in the studio because last
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Speaker 1: time we were in studio, we only got half of
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Speaker 1: the greatness that.
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Speaker 2: Is the Van Perry.
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Speaker 1: No disrespect, but glad to have both of y'all here
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Speaker 1: this time.
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Speaker 2: How are you good to be here? Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Listen, I want to ask, we're hanging out with Kimberly
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Speaker 1: and Johnny. You put out an epic song a long
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Speaker 1: time ago, and If I Die Young, Yes, we're talking
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Speaker 1: about new music now, but I want to ask the
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Speaker 1: weight of a massive song like that, does it become
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Speaker 1: a gift in a curse? Because it's like, oh, we
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Speaker 1: had this massive song abroad US success, awards, disatulation, but
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Speaker 1: it's also hard to break, like what are you gonna
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Speaker 1: die young?
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Speaker 2: Follow it up? But yeah, it's almost like what do
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Speaker 2: they call that type casting or something? I feel like
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Speaker 2: the most scary If I Die Young was when it
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Speaker 2: was time to write our second album. You know, it
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Speaker 2: was on our first project, so it's like, how are
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Speaker 2: we going to like make sure that the future feels
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Speaker 2: as big as the present, And then we just started
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Speaker 2: to write here in Nashville, you know, and then also
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Speaker 2: listen to songs because we love our songwriter friends in town,
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Speaker 2: and somebody sent us better Dig too, And then it
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Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's how you do that, you know,
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Speaker 2: you just keep finding great songs that feel like they
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Speaker 2: are coming from the same narrator, the same authentic voice.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: Well, and when it comes to that, you guys have
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Speaker 1: different versions career wise now. And obviously we were CMA
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Speaker 1: Fest two years ago.
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Speaker 2: Yes, was that when I was like very pregnant with
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Speaker 2: our son.
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Speaker 1: The fact that you were out in June was crazy.
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Speaker 2: He was, You're right, You're not wrong.
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Speaker 1: It was crazy, but like, were you here with her
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Speaker 1: that I was because she it was just downstairs here. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you, I don't know, It's like, no, you didn't
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Speaker 1: give less, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, our son is two years old now
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Speaker 2: and he can finally wrap his head around a little
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Speaker 2: bit what we do like for our job. And I
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Speaker 2: always tell him. I show him pictures of that CMA
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Speaker 2: Fest and I was like, you were playing with Mama
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Speaker 2: on stage, you know, I was so crazy while he
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Speaker 2: was in you. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So when it comes to this new version of the band, Perry,
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Speaker 1: what brought you? Yes, I'll start with Kimberly. What brought
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Speaker 1: you back to like, yep, hey, the solo thing was cool,
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Speaker 1: but like, yes.
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Speaker 2: We're calling this season two. I was so ready for
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Speaker 2: season two. At the Van Perry, I think I'm a
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Speaker 2: bandgirl at heart. I love to collaborate, you know, The
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Speaker 2: Van Perry, Johnny, my baby daddy and husband's and the
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Speaker 2: band now my brothers in the OG season. It's always
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Speaker 2: been a family band. And for me, as I always say,
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Speaker 2: as like the narrator, as the front woman of that band,
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Speaker 2: I'm a very different artist and my brain is flipped
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Speaker 2: in a different direction as the lead singer the Van
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Speaker 2: Perry versus Kimberly Perry Music. I'm so grateful I got
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Speaker 2: to make solo work and and you know, tour on
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Speaker 2: that for a second. But every night I was on stage,
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Speaker 2: I was like, I just missed my band, you know.
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Speaker 2: And I think the band Perry it's a Southern Gothic
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Speaker 2: eat those we have a lot of like poetry in
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Speaker 2: those lyrics. We love a good punchline as well, you know,
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Speaker 2: there's some quippiness about it. And I just love who
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Speaker 2: I am in this band. I couldn't wait to get
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Speaker 2: back to it.
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Speaker 1: What does this and Johnny will go to you. What
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Speaker 1: does this version of the band Perry witnessing the first rendition,
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Speaker 1: witnessing your wife's solo ventures. Now now knowing that this
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Speaker 1: is like a part two, what are you seeing from
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Speaker 1: your vision that's different from the first the first go round?
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Speaker 3: I think the energy, I think, I mean, I think
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Speaker 3: TVP's always been known for that, like electric on stage.
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Speaker 3: Here we go. Every side of the stage is going
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Speaker 3: to get covered. Everyone's going to put in seven miles
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Speaker 3: on a stage here. Why everyone put on your fitbit.
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Speaker 2: That's literal by the way we used to.
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Speaker 3: Get on stage. And I just think right now the band,
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of guys you know, know in Texas
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Speaker 3: and Dallas, Austin that we've kind of pulled into Nashville
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Speaker 3: and are just really like putting on that.
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Speaker 2: That's been a really cool thing for Johnny to bring
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Speaker 2: to the band. So he grew up down in Texas.
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Speaker 2: He's our Texas Boy. Our tours called Psycho Rodeo Tour.
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Speaker 2: He is the rodeo of Psycho Rodeo, which of course
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Speaker 2: lets me be the Psycho.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say so true.
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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm proud of it. I'm a card
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Speaker 2: carrying member of the Psyco Girls Club. But Johnny, we
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Speaker 2: met all these cool musicians around him and all his
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Speaker 2: friend group down in Texas when I fell in love
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Speaker 2: with him, and so it was like, hey, do you
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Speaker 2: think they would ever play in our bands when we
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Speaker 2: tour lives. That's been a cool thing that you've brought in. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: come to Tennessee please, they've most of them have moved
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Speaker 2: to town.
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Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, that's what you do, is you come, you
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Speaker 1: move somewhere and then just try and bring your child uproot.
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Speaker 2: Everybody. Yeah, that's the home for me.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: We have this amazing speaking of our toddler, this amazing
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Speaker 2: babysitter here in Nashville. We live in East Tennessee over
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Speaker 2: in the mountains, and I keep going like, just move,
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Speaker 2: just move you and your whole family to where our
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Speaker 2: family is and we can all be one big family together.
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Speaker 2: It is yes, you know Charles Manson vibes, I get it.
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Speaker 1: But we just don't have kool aid.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, different, not at all at all. It's at least cherry.
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Speaker 2: It's not great. You know.
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Speaker 1: When you think of the music you were making by
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Speaker 1: yourself a couple of years ago. Yeah, how do you
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Speaker 1: keep that separate from the band Pairy because the band
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Speaker 1: Parry is you. Yeah, but then you're you? So how
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Speaker 1: do you make sure those two things got to live
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Speaker 1: live there?
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think I'm just not a mental multitasker. I'm
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Speaker 2: definitely not a creative multitasker. I'm always all in and
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Speaker 2: what's right in front of me. And I always say,
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm like an environmentalist. Wherever I'm in in
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Speaker 2: my environment and my ethos is where my brain and
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Speaker 2: my heart are engaged. And I think the moment that
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Speaker 2: it came time to flip that vand Perry switch back,
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Speaker 2: which came last January, played our first show back from Hiatus.
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Speaker 2: Our little small town in East Tennessee had been hit
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Speaker 2: by Hurricane Helene and they were trying to raise money
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Speaker 2: for all of our displaced families, and so Johnny and I,
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Speaker 2: who of course live in Greenville, we called it Read.
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Speaker 2: Neil was working on a solo project, so timing went
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Speaker 2: right for him. On Joshuad Tree, I was like, Read,
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Speaker 2: get on a plane, like we've got to go support
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Speaker 2: our hometown. And from that moment on it was just
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Speaker 2: such a blast of a show. I had missed it
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Speaker 2: so much and from that moment it was like, oh,
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Speaker 2: this in my heart and in my head it's like
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Speaker 2: Van Perry, let's go to the future.
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Speaker 1: You know, when you look at the success you had early,
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Speaker 1: and that's what a lot of and I'd like to
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Speaker 1: bring up because a lot of country music fans don't
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Speaker 1: get success.
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Speaker 2: Is great, but it is so hard to be Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Same, So when you see that early success, right, the
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Speaker 1: better big, the better dig two if I die young.
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Speaker 1: But then knowing like not every song is a massive yes,
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Speaker 1: and you think it's hard to get a first big song,
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Speaker 1: a second, a third, a fourth, So how do you stay?
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Speaker 1: I'd imagine that can be like a kick in the teeth,
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Speaker 1: right to have to So how do you stay? How
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Speaker 1: did you stay motivated during that time enough to be
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Speaker 1: like right the.
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Speaker 2: You know, I feel like, as you said, with success,
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Speaker 2: two things happen, it's like this amazing thing. And then
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Speaker 2: I was just also terrified at the same time that
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Speaker 2: it would just all fall apart at any minute and
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, your entire you know, world, everybody
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Speaker 2: has an opinion on how we're going to maintain that success,
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Speaker 2: and that became a little complex for me. I felt
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Speaker 2: like some of the songs maybe that brought us to
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Speaker 2: the dance in the first place. We were diverting a little.
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Speaker 2: And you have to understand, this is a season when
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Speaker 2: broke country was coming in like a tidal wave, right,
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Speaker 2: and so the instinct is like, how do you Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I wrote how do you like? Compete with bro Country?
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Speaker 2: And I think there was a moment where it's like,
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Speaker 2: we don't. We don't have to compete. We do what
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Speaker 2: we do and that's working. I think now looking back
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Speaker 2: with hindsight of all of the years of my career
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Speaker 2: and all the songs they've got to put out. First
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Speaker 2: of all, I've touched the top of that mountain. I
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Speaker 2: know what that feels like. I've also been at the
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Speaker 2: very bottom of the pool. You know, we're right where
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Speaker 2: the drain is. Of gotten to touch that part of
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Speaker 2: this career as well, and it is about the journey
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Speaker 2: of both halves of that and not losing your mind
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Speaker 2: in the middle of it. You know, music is volatile.
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Speaker 2: Everybody has an opinion about it. They're going to be
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Speaker 2: great songs, they are going to be mediocre songs. Your
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Speaker 2: legacy is what you do with each creative moment and
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Speaker 2: how they work together and in the band Perry. Some
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Speaker 2: of those were meant to be what I'm calling like
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Speaker 2: band Perry Underground, Like we did this Coordinates project, you know,
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Speaker 2: and I had black hair and like you know, bangs
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Speaker 2: at the time.
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Speaker 3: I don't college.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a college and I'm proud of it.
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Speaker 2: You know. Oh gosh, I know nobody even Garth, even Garth. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: but you have all those seasons and you embrace them.
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Speaker 2: I'm just so happy to be back home. I'm happy
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Speaker 2: to be back in this family band and bring these
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Speaker 2: songs on stage that I've always loved.
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Speaker 1: You know, so and correct me if I'm wrong. But
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Speaker 1: that first version of the band Parry, did you feel
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Speaker 1: like you were chasing things more? And listen, everybody learns
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Speaker 1: at some point chasing things, yeah, does not fulfill you
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Speaker 1: when you catch them. Now, So has that has that
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Speaker 1: changed your view of what will measure success? Of chapter two?
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Speaker 2: I think the measure of success for me has always
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Speaker 2: been and is now being relevant. I think how we
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Speaker 2: get to those points. Maybe I would challenge some of
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Speaker 2: my ideas over the years. Although all you can do
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Speaker 2: is sort of put one foot in front of the
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Speaker 2: other and keep walking. In that direction. But I think
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Speaker 2: it's been very important for me in this season too
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Speaker 2: to really honor the nostalgia of you know, the Fida
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Speaker 2: Young's a Better Dig two the first two projects. This
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Speaker 2: is PS the third album we've ever worked on in full, right,
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Speaker 2: so like what you guys heard in our first LP
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Speaker 2: and Pioneer, those are the only full projects that we've
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Speaker 2: ever put out as the band Parry. So for me,
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Speaker 2: it's about honoring where we've come from and then being
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Speaker 2: perfectly seated in twenty twenty six, perfectly authentic to the
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Speaker 2: culture that we live in, the human beings that we are,
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Speaker 2: and how we like to come unhinged on stage.
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Speaker 1: And I want to talk because the single that is
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Speaker 1: coming out and will be out by the time this airs,
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Speaker 1: so good speak right, I want to I want to
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Speaker 1: touch real quick on this new version of the band
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Speaker 1: Perry once again, Johnny. Obviously you you are newer to
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Speaker 1: the journey, right for sure? How do you how do
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Speaker 1: you and your spot like respect where where it's been
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Speaker 1: and where it's going, but also like still fulfilled like
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Speaker 1: what you need to as a musician.
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Speaker 3: I think the cool part about the band Perry is
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Speaker 3: it is a Southern gothic country rock band. I think
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Speaker 3: there's some of like Kimberly Read and Neil living in Mobile, Alabama, Jackson, Mississippi.
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Speaker 3: Some of that Southern rock is kind of like webbed
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Speaker 3: into some of the instrumentation East Tennessee Banjos Mando's like,
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Speaker 3: we have all the instrumentation represented, but we have the
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Speaker 3: low end on the base thumping along to give you
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Speaker 3: some of that feeling of southern rock. I think with
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Speaker 3: my rock background, it's been really sweet to just see
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Speaker 3: it feel pretty organic. Yeah, the catalog has just been
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Speaker 3: I mean, playing Mandlin on Better Dick two, it's just
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Speaker 3: so fun, chainsaw rips, and then I'm like, here we go,
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Speaker 3: let's push. Like it's just it's such a fun catalog
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Speaker 3: to play. I'm just here for the energy. I'm like,
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Speaker 3: let's go.
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Speaker 1: Uh So the new single is out Friday, funny enough
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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day and it works that way.
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Speaker 2: You love how we did that.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's I would ask, but I try not
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Speaker 1: to ask dumb questions. It's so good and not that
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Speaker 1: and I say that like I don't want to sound
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Speaker 1: like what did you think it would be? What? But like, wow,
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Speaker 1: what a what a great reintroduction for who you guys
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Speaker 1: are and where you're at.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, and we felt like Psychological was that perfect
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Speaker 2: song for that. I think it. I always feel like
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Speaker 2: it's like the kid's sister to Better Dig Too, Better
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Speaker 2: Dick Do was like a very serious, you know, passionate,
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Speaker 2: delusional love song. And I do feel like we have
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Speaker 2: some evolution and psychological in the fact that we're not like,
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Speaker 2: we're not out here killing a guy, We're not even
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Speaker 2: threatening to in this one. You know, we're just like,
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Speaker 2: I am so obsessed with you, Please be obsessed with
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Speaker 2: me too, and then if not right, and then if
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Speaker 2: not crazy?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: By the way, had this song come out early Red Flag.
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Speaker 2: Parasol? What do we keep saying? Red Flags? Does it's
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Speaker 2: like confetti?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Holy god, that's good. You You guys are working
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Speaker 1: with producer Dan Huff, Yes. I don't think guys like
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Speaker 1: Dan get mentioned a lot in like mainstream conversation, especially
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Speaker 1: for country fans or people that come to shows. Uh,
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Speaker 1: this dude is.
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Speaker 2: So good at what he does. He's the beast.
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Speaker 1: He has built houses, He's built neighborhoods off of great ideas. Right,
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Speaker 1: Why was it important to work with him to get
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Speaker 1: this new version of you guys out.
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Speaker 2: Dan just never misses.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: I think the job of the producer is to really
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Speaker 2: be the liaison between the songwriter and the artist and
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Speaker 2: the audience, Like how are we going to perfectly translate
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Speaker 2: this and the way that we intend to and help
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Speaker 2: it just be like butter in somebody's ears, Maybe not
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Speaker 2: butter in your ears. That was like a kind of
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Speaker 2: a weird thing to say, but you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I did put but you did. Oh my god, for
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Speaker 1: another time.
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Speaker 2: But Dan is just so amazing at bad translation, and
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Speaker 2: you know, he works with everybody like our label mate
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Speaker 2: Riley Green. He did the Band Perry's Pioneer album, so
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Speaker 2: he did our sophomore record, and we just would not
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Speaker 2: trust this music in any other hands. He's the best.
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Speaker 1: It's and it's funny because when you listen to this song,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like a band Perry song, but it doesn't
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Speaker 1: sound like And that's got to be the hardest thing
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Speaker 1: for an artist, like, hey, this is our sound, right,
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Speaker 1: but I but like, let's make sure it doesn't.
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Speaker 2: Sound like stuff, right. Yeah. It is that fine line
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Speaker 2: between nostalgia, like how do you make them feel what
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Speaker 2: we've all felt together before, but we are evolved, Like
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Speaker 2: we're in twenty twenty six. There's a lot going on
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Speaker 2: in country music that's so exciting as well, and it's like,
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Speaker 2: how do we just perfectly set this song in that season?
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Speaker 2: You know? So I'm glad you love it?
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Speaker 1: How many? How many? So? How many songs do you
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Speaker 1: have like completed? Right now?
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Speaker 2: We have three and we're headed back in in the
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Speaker 2: middle of March to grab three more.
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Speaker 1: So what so psychological? What made that? Out of these
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Speaker 1: ones you have done? What made this? How did it
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Speaker 1: raise its hand the highest for you guys and whoever
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Speaker 1: else was in the process.
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Speaker 2: I feel like the energy of it felt like the
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Speaker 2: right thing.
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Speaker 3: And you know the lyric, I think the playoff of like,
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Speaker 3: oh that's the banter, that's the wittingness of TVP and
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Speaker 3: then match with the payoff, and then the chorus is
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Speaker 3: just how Dan cut it produced.
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Speaker 2: It is just for all you music nerds. It's in
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Speaker 2: six eight, which is like a walk cut a six
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Speaker 2: eight song. It's a different kind of beat, so we've
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Speaker 2: never cut a six eight song. There are these crazy
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Speaker 2: chords on the courus am in it, which is it
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Speaker 2: just felt like all the right elements.
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Speaker 1: You know, I have a ten year old, so I'm
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Speaker 1: dying to say six seven.
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Speaker 2: But I'm not going to do no. I know, I
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Speaker 2: know our nieces and nephews educated us on that over
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Speaker 2: the holiday.
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Speaker 1: You know what, it's best not to go to the
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Speaker 1: age we're like, if I don't know, I'm not going to.
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Speaker 1: The last thing I want to ask is and it's
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Speaker 1: going to be a semi sentimental question. So I'm setting
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Speaker 1: you all up somebody who digs for tears. Now I'm
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Speaker 1: going to ask uh, Johnny. First, knowing the band Perry
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Speaker 1: existed before you and it's still obviously your lovely wife
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Speaker 1: is a large part of why its success is maintained,
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Speaker 1: what do you feel that you bring to the band
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Speaker 1: that makes it better? And then I'm going to ask
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Speaker 1: you the same question, what does he bring to the
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Speaker 1: band it didn't have before? But Johnny, go ahead.
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Speaker 3: I think it's just like we're currently in the Olympics.
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Speaker 3: I think it's that thing of like I'm carrying the baton.
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Speaker 3: I think it's yes, it's better, but it's like I'm
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Speaker 3: also just doing the work to move it forward, and
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Speaker 3: I'm doing it in my style, like I'm bringing the
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Speaker 3: rock element to our perform moments. I think I'm just
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Speaker 3: continuing the brand development in the way that it was
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Speaker 3: it should be, and I think that we all see
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Speaker 3: it going. I think we're all excited about the band Perry.
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Speaker 3: We're excited to see the band Perry play live. I
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Speaker 3: think I'm just helped pushing it forward.
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Speaker 2: For me with him and having been in his band
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Speaker 2: since I was a kid. You know, a band is
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Speaker 2: only as good as the partnership in it and the
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Speaker 2: camaraderie in it. And I was so blessed with Season
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Speaker 2: one of this band with my brothers, My whole family
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Speaker 2: was so involved. They picked up so many pieces around
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Speaker 2: me that really allowed me to be Kimberly and do
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Speaker 2: what I need to do in the band Perry, And
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Speaker 2: I feel like you've picked up so many of those
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Speaker 2: responsibilities in one human and our partnership is just it
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Speaker 2: really is. Every's like, how is it going. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: it's it's pretty flawless. Like God has definitely designed us
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Speaker 2: to do this together.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we go to therapy twice a week now instead
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Speaker 1: of once. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: The partnership is fun to share with him, it really is.
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Speaker 2: That's awesome.
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Speaker 1: Well listen if the rest of the music you got
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Speaker 1: can be half of what Psychological is.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Y'all about to have a big ass year.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, We're ready for it.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for stopping boy it guys.
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Speaker 2: Thanks. That was so