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Detectives Solve 1987 Cold Case Following Execution of James Duckett · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: You know, when you think about solving a really complex problem,
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  whether it's I don't know, a software bug, or a
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  mechanical failure and a car engine, or even a medical diagnosis,
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  there is this cultural expectation we all kind of share.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely, we expect a smoking gun, right.
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  Speaker 1: We expect to be able to isolate that exact line
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  of bad code or point to a cracked valve and
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  just say, you know, there is the definitive issue.
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  Speaker 2: It is deeply comforting, I think, to look for that
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  binary We are just wired to want undeniable physical anchors
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  that easily categorize the world into like broken or fixed,
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  or guilty or innocent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you step into the reality of historical
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  cold case investigations, specifically those stretching way back into the
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  nineteen eighties, that expectation of a clean, binary answer just
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  completely shatters.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it falls apart entirely. You're no longer looking for
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  a smoking gun at that point.
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  Speaker 1: No, You're looking at a landscape that is incredibly murky.
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  It's a place where the diagnostic tools that you and
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  I just take for granted today simply do not exist.
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  Speaker 2: It requires a completely different analytical framework. Yeah, I mean
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  if you strip away the modern technological safety.
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  Speaker 1: Net, right, So no GPS tracking exactly.
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  Speaker 2: No GPS, no ubiquitous ring cameras on every porch, no
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  advanced DNA profiling. You are left relying on a much older,
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  much more fragile set of data.
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  Speaker 1: Points like human memory and geographic anomalies.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and behavioral patterns, which are incredibly subjective.
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  Speaker 1: And that brings us to the focus of today's deep dive.
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  We are unpacking the recent resolution of a cold case
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  out of central Florida that actually remained open for nearly
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  forty years. It's a staggering amount of time, it really
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  is so for everyone listening. Our mission today is to
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  explore how investigators finally close the book on the nineteen
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  eighty seven murder of a fourteen year old girl named
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  Jennifer Scheyan Weldon.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a narrative that really forces us to examine
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  the absolute limitations of nineteen eighties forensic science well heavily.
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  Speaker 1: And it also gets into the psychology of a predator
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  who uses authority as a weapon. Just the sheer, stubborn
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  persistence required to build an air type case without a
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  single drop of DNA evidence.
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  Speaker 2: Which is almost unheard of today. Our primary source material
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  for this is a mix of historical case files and
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  the July thirty, twenty twenty six press conference held by
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  Polk County Sheriff Grady.
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  Speaker 1: Jud Right, where he detailed how they finally officially closed
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  this case following the execution of a former police officer
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  named James Aaron Duckett, a.
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  Speaker 2: Really pivotal moment in Florida legal history.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's untack this because looking through the history
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  of this investigation, it is honestly a masterclass in how
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  a circumstantial mosaic can hold up over decades.
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  Speaker 2: It totally redefines what it means to build a case
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  piece by tiny piece. And I think what's fascinating here
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  is how the investigation highlights the evolution of justice across
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  completely different generations.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and for you listening right now, I want you
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  to consider what it actually takes to find a missing
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  person today. I mean, if someone vanishes this afternoon, law
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  enforcement immediately cell phone tower pings.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, instantly, they triangulate the last location within minutes exactly.
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  Speaker 1: They pulled credit card data to see where they bought gas.
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  They scrubbed through just terabytes of CCTV footage from local
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  businesses and traffic lights.
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  Speaker 2: But in nineteen eighty seven, you are operating in a
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  complete sensory void.
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  Speaker 1: Avoid. Yes, investigators were essentially blind and deaf compared to
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  today's standards.
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  Speaker 2: They really had to flex completely different investigative muscles. They
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  relied on the physical environment, and like we said, these
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  incredibly subtle deviations in a Suspects routine.
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  Speaker 1: Well, to understand how those muscles were used, we really
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  have to start on Saturday, September nineteenth, nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: Eighty seven, the day it all began.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So, Genifer Welden was three days shy of her
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  fifteenth birthday, and by all accounts, it was a perfectly normal.
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  Speaker 2: Weekend, just a standard Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she spent the day in Tampa with her boyfriend,
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  his mother, and her friend Angel Sullivan, a.
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  Speaker 2: Standard teenager's day out. But there is one specific detail
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  from that Tampa trip that seems, you know, entirely in
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  consequence at the time, the toy. Yes, while they were shopping,
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  Jennifer bought a gray stuffed kitten to add to a
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  collection she kept at home.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the kind of mundane purchase a teenager makes,
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  and frankly forgets about an hour later.
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  Speaker 2: Right, But that gray stuffed kitten is going to become
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  the absolute lynchpin of a massive investigative timeline.
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  Speaker 1: It really is. So the day trip ends, the boyfriend's
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  mother drives them back toward Lakeland, Florida, and she drops
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  Jennifer an Angel off at Angel's house.
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  Speaker 2: And that house sits right off Highway ninety eight.
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  Speaker 1: North, right, So they spend some time there just hanging out,
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  and then around nine pm, Jennifer decides to head home.
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  Her house is on North Sakram Loop Road in Lakeland.
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  Speaker 2: And we should note the distance is roughly.
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  Speaker 1: Two miles, which a two mile walk for a teenager
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  in a rural suburban area in nineteen eighty seven is
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  not highly unusual.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all. It's a distance she likely felt entirely
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  comfortable navigating on her own.
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  Speaker 1: But she never arrives. She steps out into the Florida night,
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  and she simply.
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  Speaker 2: Vanishes without a single trace.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and when her mother realizes she's actually missing the
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  next day, it triggers an immediate massive.
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  Speaker 2: Response, as it should.
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  Speaker 1: Multiple law enforcement agencies, family members, local volunteers. They all
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  fan out. They spend thirteen days just tearing apart the area.
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  Speaker 2: And they find absolutely nothing, nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Which highlights the geographic reality of central Florida at the time.
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  I mean, this wasn't a dense urban grid where someone
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  is bound to see something out of window.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's very spread out.
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  Speaker 1: And the breakthrough, if you can even call it a breakthrough,
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  it doesn't happen until October.
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  Speaker 2: Second, right, thirteen days later.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a worker at a phosphate mine is driving this
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  heavy truck down a highly remote dirt road on the
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  gardener mine property in Fort me.
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  Speaker 2: A place the public really wouldn't have.
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  Speaker 1: Access to exactly, and he happens to glance down and
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  notices a pair of shoes partially jutting out into the roadway.
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  Just a chilling detail, it is, and he stops the
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  truck because tragically, he also catches the distinct odor of decomposition.
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  Speaker 2: And that is exactly where they discover Jennifer's remains. It
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  was a heavily wooded area just off Billing Green.
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  Speaker 1: Road right and due to the intense floor to climate,
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  the heat and humidity, the remains are already skeletonized.
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  Speaker 2: But she is still wearing the exact T shirt she
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  had on the day she vanished.
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  Speaker 1: Which is how they start to piece the identity together.
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  The medical examiners brought in and despite the terrible condition
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  of the remains, they are able to determine the cause
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  of death.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, strangulation, So it is officially ruled a homicide.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So I am struggling to understand how investigators even
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  take a first step here. I mean, the trail has
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  been completely cold for twenty five days.
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  Speaker 3: The massive disadvantage, right, you have a deeply remote wooded scene,
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  you have absolutely no witnesses, and because of the skeletonization,
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  you have lost an enormous amount of physical evidence.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, nearly all of it. Yeah, no skin tissue to
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  check for defense wounds, no biological fluids that were easily preserved.
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  Speaker 1: It's like trying to find a needle in a hayste
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  when you don't even know what the needle looks like.
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  How do investigators even begin to find a thread to pull?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it requires a deep understanding of the specific environment
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  they were dealing with. Central Florida's phosphate country in the
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  eighties was an industrial landscape unlike almost anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Else because it's not a traditional mine, right.
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  Speaker 2: No, phosphate mining involves massive drag line excavators. We are
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  talking machines the size of apartment buildings, just stripping away
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  the top soil to reach the mineral rich matrix below.
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  Speaker 1: So it essentially creates.
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  Speaker 2: A moonscape, precisely a moonscape. It leads. Behind this incredibly rugged,
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  torn up terrain, you have these towering mounds of earth,
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  deep ravines and highly remote dirt access roads that only
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  heavy machinery uses.
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  Speaker 1: And those massive deep pits that fill with groundwater.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, a completely sterile, isolated labyrinth.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And these immense industrial properties offer unparalleled opportunities for concealment.
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  If an offender wants to make a body disappear here,
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  this terrain is aggressively working in their favor.
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  Speaker 1: Right because it's visually isolating and physically treacherous to even
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  try to search.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, which brings up the deeply uncomfortable reality of cold cases.
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  So much of it hinges on blind luck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if that specific mind worker hadn't taken
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  that specific dirt road, or you know, if you had
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  been looking at his dashboard instead of the dirt in
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  front of its tires.
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  Speaker 2: Jennifer's family might still be searching today. The acidic soil,
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  the humidity, the local wildlife. That environment reclaims biological material.
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  Speaker 1: Very quickly, so that single moment of chance discovery provided
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  investigators with a crime scene and a cause of death.
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  It gave them a starting point.
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  Speaker 2: But once they have that starting point, the investigation hits
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  a massive.
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  Speaker 1: Wall, right because to figure out who is operating in
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  this isolated industrial environment, detectives have to look backward.
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  Speaker 2: They start pulling case files from surrounding jurisdictions looking for similar.
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  Speaker 1: Patterns exactly, and this forces us to shift our narrative.
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  Folks is backward in time, just five months prior to
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  Jennifer's disappearance to May eleventh, nineteen eighty seven.
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  Speaker 2: We have to look at a small town called Mascott, Florida,
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  which is about forty.
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  Speaker 1: Miles away, and this brings us to the deeply tragic
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  murder of an eleven year old girl named Teresa May mcgabe.
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  Speaker 2: Just a heartbreaking case, it really is.
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  Speaker 1: Teresa is a fifth grader and on that Monday night,
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  she just wanted to finish her homework, but she needed
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  a pencil so mundane, so she walked down to the
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  local convenience store to buy one.
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  Speaker 2: And this is where James Aaron Duckett enters the timeline right.
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  Speaker 1: Duckett is twenty nine years old. He is a married
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  father of two young boys, and he serves as a
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  police officer for the Mascot Police Department.
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  Speaker 2: And crucially, on this specific night, James Duckett is the
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  only police officer on patrol in the entire town.
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  Speaker 1: The only one. So the interaction at the convenience store
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  begins incredibly mundanely. Duckett pulls up. He sees Teresa outside
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  with a sixteen year old boy. Right, he goes inside
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  and specifically asks the store clerk about Teresa's age. Then
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  he steps back outside and approaches the children.
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  Speaker 2: He steps into the role of the authority figure exactly.
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  Speaker 1: He tells this eleven year old girl that she is
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  violating the town's curfew and that she needs to go home.
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  He uses his badge his authority to enforce compliance.
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  Speaker 2: And witnesses at the store then watch Teresa get into
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  the back of Duckett's official police cruiser.
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  Speaker 1: The next morning, a fisherman finds Teresa's body in night Lake,
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  which is less than a mile from that convenience store.
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  Speaker 2: She had been raped, strangled, and the medical examiner concluded
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  she was actually drowned while she was still alive.
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  Speaker 1: It is utterly horrific, But unlike the complete void of
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  evidence in Jennifer's case, the physical evidence left at night
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  Lake in the maccabee case was immediate and overwhelming.
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  Speaker 2: The crime scene was remarkably contained, which is rare.
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  Speaker 1: Right, investigators found tire tracks near the water's edge that
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  perfectly matched the highly specific treadwear on the tires of
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  the Mascot police cruiser Ducket was driving.
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  Speaker 2: And tire treadware is actually incredibly unique, isn't it. It's
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  not just the brand of the tire exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Every time you drive your tires hit potholes, glass uneven pavement.
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  Speaker 2: It creates a unique pattern, right, a.
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  Speaker 1: Pattern of ware nicks and gouges. It's essentially a fingerprint
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  of that specific tire, and forensic technicians were able to
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  cast those tracks and match them definitively to the cruiser.
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  Speaker 2: But it wasn't just the tires. Furthermore, they pulled palm
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  prints from the hood of that police car. They found
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  Duckett's prints, and they found Teresa's prints.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, And they also recovered a pubic care from the
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  victim that an FBI forensic examiner later testified was a
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  match to James Stuckett.
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  Speaker 2: And crucially, the prosecution didn't just rely on forensics for this.
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  They established a behavioral pattern.
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  Speaker 1: Oh right, the other witnesses.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, They brought three teenage girls to the stand who
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  testified that Ducket, while in uniform and on duty, had
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  previously offered them rides and made overt inappropriate sexual advances.
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  Speaker 1: So the jury saw the entire picture. He was convicted
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  of first degree murder and sexual battery in May of
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  nineteen eighty eight, and he was sentenced to death the
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  very next month.
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  Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture and look
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  at the broader psychological implications, we have to examine the
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  concept of authority as a grooming tool.
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  Speaker 1: It's terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: We are looking at a man operating with the dual identity.
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  The badge provided access, authority, and this powerful veneer of legitimacy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I compared Duggett's badge to a skeleton key.
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  We spend years teaching children, if you are in trouble,
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  look for a police officer. Trust the uniform.
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  Speaker 2: That is the social contract.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So it actively disarmed all the normal stranger danger
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  alarms a child might have. He wasn't just a wolf
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  in sheep's clothing. He was the wolf wearing the shepherd's uniform.
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  Speaker 2: That is a perfect analogy. In forensic psychology, there is
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  a recognized pattern where certain predators will actively seek out
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  environments or professions teaching, coaching, religious leadership, or law enforcement.
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  They grant them unquestioned control over vulnerable populations.
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  Speaker 1: He bypass asked every defense she had. He used the
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  symbol of public safety to isolate her.
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  Speaker 2: And that level of psychological manipulation is exactly what makes
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  Duckett such a massive focal point for detectives who were
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  looking at Jennifer Wildon's cold case.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let's connect those threads. How does the fired
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  cop become the prime suspect in the disappearance of a
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  fourteen year old girl in Lakeland?
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  Speaker 2: We need to construct this circumstantial mosaic.
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  Speaker 1: So, following the mcghebbe murder in May, Duckett is suspended
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  in June and eventually fired from the police force.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, right, but.
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  Speaker 1: He needs an income, so he takes a job working
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  the night shift as a laborer at a phosphate mine
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  down in southern Polk County.
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  Speaker 2: Notice the geographic shift here. He is no longer in
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  a patrol car in a small town. He is now
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  intimately embedded in that desolate, heavily industrial terrain we discussed earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that moonscape. So we arrive at the night of
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  September nineteenth, nineteen eighty seven, the exact night gene for
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  vanishes while walking home along Highway ninety eight north.
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  Speaker 2: And investigators pulled Ducket's employment records from the mine, and
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  the timeline anomalies are just glaring.
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  Speaker 1: First, he leaves his house for his night shift a
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  full five hours.
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  Speaker 2: Early, five unaccounted four hours. That is a massive red flag, and.
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  Speaker 1: The most direct logical route from his home to the
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  phosphate mine takes him driving directly past US Highway ninety.
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  Speaker 2: Eight north right. So geographic profiling places his routine path
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  directly through her last known location during the exact window
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  of her disappearance.
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  Speaker 1: But the timeline gets even more distorted. Despite leaving home
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  five hours early, Duckett arrives at the phosphate mine two
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  hours late for a.
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  Speaker 2: Shift, and witnesses at the mine and his coworkers noted
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  that his physical condition upon arrival was highly unusual.
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  Speaker 1: Right, They said. He was excessively hot, sweating, profusely, visibly agitated,
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  and his hands and arms were covered in dirt.
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  Speaker 2: Now, in isolation, a late employee showing up sweaty and
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  dirty to a manual labor job might not mean much.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, it's a dirty job.
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  Speaker 2: But in the context of a missing person a along
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  his commute route, it is a highly significant behavioral anomaly.
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  Speaker 1: But the detail that really anchors this entire mosaic happens the.
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  Speaker 2: Very next morning uh huh moment.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly at nine am, Duckett returns home from his shift.
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  He walks in and hands his wife a distinctive green
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  shopping bag. Okay, Inside this bag is some candy and
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  a gray stuffed kitten.
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  Speaker 2: Which leads investigators directly back to Jennifer's day trip to Tampa.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, detectives retrace Jennifer's steps. They went to this specific
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  store in Tampa where she had been shopping hours before
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  she vanished.
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  Speaker 2: And what do they find.
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  Speaker 1: They confirmed the store used those exact distinctive green bags,
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  and they sold that specific gray stuffed kitten.
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  Speaker 2: The probability of Ducket randomly purchasing the exact same highly
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  specific plush toy from the exact same regional store on
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  the exact same night, a girl carrying that toy vanishes
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  along his commute route. It is astronomically low.
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  Speaker 1: But there is a frustrating reality to this piece of evidence.
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  Duckett's wife was confused. They have two young boys, right,
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  so she asked him why he would bring home just
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  one toy, knowing the kids would immediately.
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  Speaker 2: Fight over it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: She was so annoyed by the lack of logic that
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  she took the green bag, the candy, and the stuffed
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  kitten and she threw them all in the garbage.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, So the physical link, the actual item that
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  bridged the victim to the suspect ended up in a landfill.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But from an evidentiary standpoint, her testimony regarding the
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  existence of the toy is still a powerful piece of
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  circumstantial evidence.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and Duckett's behavior at home continues to unravel. He
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  had fresh, severe scratches down his back, and.
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  Speaker 1: When questioned by his wife, he claimed he had gotten
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  tangled up in barbed wire at the mine, which is
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  convenient very but then he makes requests that moved from
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  suspicious to actively attempting a cover up, he asks his
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  wife to fabricate auto repair receipts for him.
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  Speaker 2: He wanted paper documentation to explain away his missing time
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  that night exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And he also aggressively demands that she take his vehicle
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  to be professionally deeply cleaned.
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  Speaker 2: And she refused, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She refused to comply with either request. She wouldn't fabricate
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  the receipts and she wouldn't scrub the car.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about geographic profiling here, because investigators dug into
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  his past residences and found another critical link.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, lay it out.
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  Speaker 2: Geographic profiling is this methodology that analyzes the locations of
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  a connected series of crimes to determine the most probable
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  area of the offender's residence or their anchor point right.
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  It relies on principles like distance decay, the idea that
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  crimes are more likely to occur closer to an offender's
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  home base, and the existence of a buffer zone around
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  the home where they avoid offending to prevent drawing attention.
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  Speaker 1: So investigators look at where Jennifer's remains were found on
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  the Gardner Mine property, and.
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  Speaker 2: They discover that Duckett had previously lived in the McDuffie
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  trailer park, and that specific trailer park is exactly one
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  point eight miles from the deeply remote, isolated dirt road
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  where the body was dumped.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, So he didn't just stumble upon that location in
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  the dark. He knew that specific terrain intimately because it
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  was effectively his old backyard exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And that is how a circumstantial mosaic is built. You
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  have direct evidence, which would be a witness seeing in
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  grabber or a clear DNA match, but.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have that here, right.
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  Speaker 2: So circumstantial evidence requires an inference. It requires you to
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  look at a collection of facts and draw the only
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  logical conclusion that connects them all.
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  Speaker 1: It's like weaving a net. One individual thread of circumstantial evidence,
• 18:35
  like just the scratches or just the late arrival. It
• 18:39
  can easily snap under scrutiny in court, sure, but when
• 18:42
  you weave the timeline, the geographic anchor, the route, the
• 18:45
  behavioral agitation, the fabricated alibis, and the stuffed animal into
• 18:49
  a net, it becomes incredibly strong.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: And what gives that net its final strength is the
• 18:54
  negative space. It's the absence of contradictory evidence. Sheriff Jed
• 18:59
  was emphatic about this.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that from the press conference.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Over four decades of investigation, looking at every tip and
• 19:05
  every possible lead, they never found one iota of evidence
• 19:08
  pointing to anyone else.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's where it gets really interesting, and I have
• 19:12
  to challenge this narrative. Go for it, because if I'm
• 19:14
  listening to this, I'm thinking, the timeline is this damning,
• 19:17
  The toy matches, the route matches. Why didn't they just
• 19:21
  charge him right then and there in nineteen eighty seven.
• 19:24
  Why let this sit in a file cabinet.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: It comes down to the heavy reality of prosecutorial discretion
• 19:30
  and risk assessment. Okay, put yourself in the shoes of
• 19:33
  a prosecutor. In nineteen eighty seven. Duckett lawyered up immediately,
• 19:38
  he invoked his right to counsel. He was not going
• 19:40
  to talk. Right, you have no independent witnesses, you have
• 19:44
  no confession, and you have zero biological evidence linking him
• 19:48
  to the victim.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Because it's the nineteen eighties and finding a needle in
• 19:51
  a haystack of Florida scrub brush without modern forensics is
• 19:55
  nearly impossible.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Exactly, taking a purely circumstantial case to trial is a
• 19:59
  massive ride. A skilled defense attorney doesn't have to break
• 20:02
  the whole net. They just have to introduce reasonable doubt
• 20:05
  to a few threads.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: They argue that toy was a coincidence, the scratches were
• 20:08
  barbed wire, and the timeline was just a bad night
• 20:11
  at work exactly.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: But the real anchor weighing down their decision was his
• 20:15
  legal status.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Right the mcaybe conviction, he.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Was already sitting on death row for the murder of
• 20:20
  Kresa mccabee. The state had to weigh the enormous financial cost,
• 20:24
  the thousands of hours of labor, and the risk of
• 20:27
  an acquittal in the welding case against the fact that
• 20:30
  the man was already scheduled to be executed.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: The system had essentially neutralized him as a threat to
• 20:35
  the public already.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Right, they made a strategic calculation. They kept the file open.
• 20:40
  They designated him the prime suspect.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: But they waited, and that weight turned into an agonizing
• 20:46
  thirty eight year gap.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: And during those nearly four decades, the forensic landscape completely transformed.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: It did, and investigators didn't just forget about Jennifer. I mean,
• 20:56
  over the years, as DNA technology advanced, They submitted and
• 21:00
  resubmitted more than ten different pieces of Jennifer's clothing to
• 21:03
  advance labs.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: They were constantly hoping that a new hypersensitive test would
• 21:08
  finally reveal that invisible molecular link.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: But the result, no usable profile ever emerged. Let's talk
• 21:15
  about the biology of that for a second. Why did
• 21:18
  it keep failing?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: It comes down to how DNA degrades. A DNA molecule
• 21:22
  is essentially a long chain held together by a sugar
• 21:25
  phosphate backbone.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, When exposed to heat, humidity, and moisture, a chemical
• 21:30
  process called hydrolysis occurs, which literally cleaves those bonds, breaking
• 21:36
  the long chain into fragments that are simply too small
• 21:38
  to read.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Add in the acidic soil of a Florida phosphate mine
• 21:42
  and bacterial activity right.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And the genetic material is essentially shredded at a molecular level.
• 21:47
  The environment destroyed the evidence long before the technology even
• 21:51
  existed to read it.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Which really highlights a massive vulnerability in nineteen eighty's physical evidence.
• 21:57
  Because while investigators were failing to find DNA in Genifer's case,
• 22:01
  Duckett's defense attorneys were relentlessly attacking the nineteen eighty science
• 22:05
  that convicted him in the Maccabie case.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, Duckets appeal spanned decades, and a major focal point
• 22:11
  was the FBI hair analysis use against him.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: How was hair analysis actually conducted back then, because you
• 22:17
  see it in movies and it looks so absolute.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: In the eighties and nineties, microscopic hair comparison was treated
• 22:23
  almost like fingerprinting. An examiner would put a hair from
• 22:26
  the crime scene and a hair from the suspect under
• 22:28
  a comparison microscope.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: And they just look at them. They would visually evaluate
• 22:32
  the physical characteristics, the cuticle pattern on the outside, the
• 22:36
  cortex in the middle, and the medullo running down the center.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds scientific.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: It looks scientific, but it is fundamentally subjective. There was
• 22:45
  no massive statistical database proving how unique these traits actually
• 22:50
  were across broad population, so.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: It relied entirely on the examiner's personal judgment to declare
• 22:55
  a match.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Decades later, major scientific reviews revealed that this method was
• 23:00
  highly prone to error and cognitive bias. In fact, this
• 23:05
  specific FBI examiner in Duckett's case actually faced intense scrutiny
• 23:09
  for flawed testimony in several other unrelated trials.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Wow. So Duckett's legal team is hammering on this, arguing
• 23:16
  the foundational science of his conviction is deeply flood right, and.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: The appeals drag on for so long that as late
• 23:22
  as March twenty twenty six, he is granted a stay
• 23:25
  of execution to run modern DNA tests on the Maccabee evidence.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And the results of that twenty twenty six testing illustrate
• 23:31
  a terrible paradox.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: They really do. The DNA results were completely inconclusive, so.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: They didn't exonerate Ducket. They didn't point to a different suspect.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: No, but the degradation was so severe they could not
• 23:42
  definitively confirm his guilt using modern standards either.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: The science evolved, but the physical evidence had expired.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Which brings us to a really intense, impartial exploration of
• 23:52
  the legal landscape surrounding this case. The historical record shows
• 23:57
  a very stark divide in how a thirty eight year
• 23:59
  war weight on death row is viewed.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we really want to just outline this debate
• 24:04
  as it's presented in the sources, because it's a profound
• 24:07
  structural debate in the legal community.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Right on one side of the legal landscape, critics of
• 24:13
  capital punishment point to this exact timeline as the system's
• 24:16
  fundamental flaw.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: They highlight the agonizing multi decade delays that trap everyone,
• 24:22
  the victims, families, the accused, the legal system in a
• 24:25
  state of limbo, and.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: They point out the exorbitant financial cost of tax payers
• 24:30
  for funding mandatory, endless federal and state appeals.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: And their most prominent argument centers on exactly what we
• 24:36
  were just talking about, the fallibility of historical convictions.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: When you have a system that relied on subjective nineteen
• 24:42
  eighties forensics like hair microscopy, the risk of executing an
• 24:46
  innocent person decades later remains a huge concern to those critics.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: That is the argument against the prolonged application of the penalty.
• 24:54
  But the other side of this debate is heavily grounded
• 24:57
  in the perspective of the victims' families, who view the
• 25:00
  penalty as a necessary, ultimate safeguard.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, Jennifer's older sister, Amy Weldon, spoke directly to this reality.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: She argued fiercely for the necessity of the execution. She
• 25:12
  stated that anyone who doesn't believe in the penalty in
• 25:15
  a case like this is crazy.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: She posed the question what if that was your daughter,
• 25:19
  your sister, your aunt.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: She maintained that the right person died and viewed it
• 25:22
  as the only proportionate response to a man who deliberately
• 25:25
  hunted and murdered children while wearing a badge.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: It is an irreconcilable divide regarding how a society administers
• 25:32
  ultimate justice over a long time horizon.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: And for the investigators in Poul County who are still
• 25:37
  carrying the Jennifer Weldon case file, this thirty eight year
• 25:40
  delay forced them to utilize a very specific procedural tool
• 25:44
  to finally close their books.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You're referring to exceptional clearance.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. When I saw that term in the case files,
• 25:52
  I realized it's not just a casual phrase. It's a
• 25:54
  highly regulated administrative process. Can you explain how that actually works.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Exceptional clearance is a formal designation established by the FBI's
• 26:03
  Uniform Crime Reporting Program. It allows law enforcement to officially
• 26:08
  close a case when a traditional arrest and prosecution are
• 26:12
  physically impossible.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: But they can't just wave a magic wand and declare
• 26:16
  it closed, you.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Know, absolutely not. They have to meet for incredibly strict criteria.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: What are the hurdles?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: First, they must have definitively identified the offender, okay. Second,
• 26:26
  they must have gathered enough solid evidence to support an arrest,
• 26:29
  a formal charge, and a prosecution if they were to
• 26:31
  go to court today. Third, they must know the exact
• 26:34
  physical location of the offender. And fourth, there must be
• 26:38
  a circumstance completely outside the control of law enforcement that
• 26:42
  prevents them from making an arrest.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: And in this instance, that circumstance outside their control is
• 26:47
  the fact that the offender is deceased.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Precisely, the Pole County Sheriff's Office essentially submitted their circumstantial
• 26:53
  mosaic to the state, arguing, we have the evidence to
• 26:57
  charge James Duckett today, but he is dead, so we
• 26:59
  are utilizing exceptional clearance to close the file.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Which brings us to the final timeline. The final act.
• 27:04
  The summer of twenty twenty six, Yes.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Governor Ron DeSantis signs a new finalized death warrant for
• 27:11
  Duckett based on the nineteen eighty seven mcaybee conviction.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: And as the date approaches, Pulp County detectives make one
• 27:18
  last attempt for Jennifer.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: They drove up to Florida State Prison. They sat outside
• 27:22
  his cell, offering him one final opportunity to clear his conscience.
• 27:26
  They wanted a confession to give the Weldon family absolute certainty.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Before he died, and Duckett's response is deeply revealing about
• 27:32
  his psychology.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I think it is he refused to even leave his cell.
• 27:36
  He refused to speak with the detectives. He maintained absolute
• 27:40
  silence and control over that information right up to the
• 27:42
  very end.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Wow. So, on July twenty eight, twenty twenty six, James
• 27:46
  Duckett was executed by lethal injection at the age of
• 27:48
  sixty eight. He declined to make any final statement, but.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: The narrative inside that execution chamber is incredibly powerful. A
• 27:56
  Polk County detective, a man who had worked the way
• 28:00
  Golden Cold case for decades, was sitting in the witness room.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: He was there to fulfill a promise he had made
• 28:05
  to himself thirty eight years prior.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Right that he would ensure he was among the very
• 28:10
  last faces Ducket saw.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: It just makes you think about the psychological toll on
• 28:14
  the investigators carrying a file like that, knowing exactly who
• 28:18
  did it, but being legally paralyzed for your entire career.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: And he wasn't the only one in the room carrying
• 28:24
  that weight.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: No, the families of both victims were there.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: The Weldon family and the Magabee family stood together in solidarity.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: For nearly four decades. They had operated in this shared
• 28:35
  orbit of grief. They had prayed for one another across
• 28:37
  the years, understanding that their distinct tragedies were tied to
• 28:41
  the exact same man.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: A close friend of Jennifer's expressed immense gratitude to the
• 28:46
  Magabee family for allowing them into that space, allowing them
• 28:50
  to witness the execution, even though it was technically only
• 28:52
  for Teresa's case.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Two days after the execution, Sheriff Grady Judd held the
• 28:57
  press conference that officially closed the book on Jennifer.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: He stood at the podium and called Ducket pure evil
• 29:03
  in the.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Flesh, and he utilized a very specific, poignant visual aid
• 29:08
  during that announcement. He didn't just rely on the grim
• 29:11
  nineteen eighty seven mug shots of the killer.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: No, he chose to display an age progression image of
• 29:16
  what Jennifer might have looked like as an.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Adult, and age progression technology is just fascinating. Forensic artists
• 29:23
  use familial photographs, DNA traits, and craniofacial growth patterns to
• 29:28
  extrapolate what a fourteen year old girl would look like
• 29:31
  as a woman in her fifties.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: By showing that image, Judd forced everyone in the room
• 29:35
  to confront the human cost rather than just the procedural victory.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: He spoke about the stolen milestones, the high school graduations,
• 29:43
  the weddings, the children she never had. He grounded the
• 29:46
  investigation in the reality of what was taken.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Which raises an important question, what does this all actually
• 29:51
  mean for the families? When a case resolves this way,
• 29:54
  not with the dramatic courtroom confession, but with an administrative
• 29:58
  exceptional clearance, an execution for a different crime.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Right, what does that actually provide to them?
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: It addresses the concept of ambiguous loss. When a loved
• 30:08
  one is murdered and the killer is unknown, the family
• 30:11
  lives in a state of suspended animation, the.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Threat is still theoretically out there exactly.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: The press conference doesn't provide magic, It doesn't undo the
• 30:19
  grief or restore those stolen milestones, but it provides profound
• 30:24
  meaning by officially answering the haunting question of who did this?
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It transforms ambiguous loss into concrete reality.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, it officially removes the uncertainty, and it provides the
• 30:36
  undeniable structural confirmation that the suspect can never, under any circumstances,
• 30:42
  hurt anyone.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Again, well, we've covered an immense amount of crown today.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: We really have.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: We started on a human highway. In nineteen eighty seven
• 30:48
  we explored the deep limitations of early physical forensics, the
• 30:52
  meticulous assembly of a purely circumstantial mosaic, and the generational
• 30:56
  debate over the administration of ultimate justice.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Primary takeaway here is that while we constantly chase the
• 31:02
  next major technological breakthrough in forensics.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Like rapid DNA or advanced tracking right, but.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Sometimes good old fashioned detective work tracking timelines, receipts, and
• 31:12
  a gray stuffed kitten is what ultimately builds the case.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: It is the relentless documentation of behavioral anomalies and the
• 31:20
  dogged persistence of detectives who refuse to let a file
• 31:23
  succumb to time. Absolutely, but as we close out this
• 31:26
  deep dive, we want to leave you at this tim
• 31:29
  all over something that extends beyond this specific case file.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: It's a heavy thought it is.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: James Aaron Duckett was a police officer. He was a
• 31:38
  man who literally knew the routes, the remote dirt roads,
• 31:41
  and the blind spots of society.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Sheriff Judd acknowledged that it remains entirely unclear if there
• 31:46
  were other victims out there, but the pattern is terrifyingly specific.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Right If the only reason Jennifer Weldon's case was finally
• 31:53
  set on a path to closure was because a chance
• 31:56
  discovery by a mine worker happened on a desolate road,
• 31:59
  if forces us to wonder how.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Many other perfect crimes from that era.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Committed by those who knew exactly how to hide them,
• 32:06
  are still sitting in a box on a shelf right now,
• 32:08
  just waiting for a chance discovery that may never come.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: It's a chilling reality to consider, it, really is.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for joining us on this deep dive.
• 32:17
  Keep questioning the world around you, keep looking closely at
• 32:19
  the history, and we'll catch you next time.