Latest / Legacy Living with Dr. Gloria Burgess / Balance Your Life with Danielle Harvey | Episode #362
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- 0:21Hello, and welcome to today's show, Legacy Living, Make Your Life Count.
- 0:28I'm your host, Doctor Gloria. Gloria Burgess, international leadership expert and
- 0:36trusted adviser. Welcome to Legacy Living, Make your Life Count. I'm delighted
- 0:46that you joined me today. I want to give a big thank you to
- 0:50those of you listening, and here's a great big shout out to all of
- 0:54you listening around the world. I'm delighted and so grateful that you tuned in.
- 1:00I hope you're enjoying a fabulous day and that you're having a fantastic week,
- 1:06because you know what, in the grand song of the universe, life
- 1:11is very short. It's short, sweet and very precious. So I hope
- 1:18you're making a difference in your own life because when you do, you also
- 1:23make a difference in someone else's life. Now, a lot of folks want
- 1:27to make their life count for something, and they ask me, doctor Gloria,
- 1:34how do you do that. Well, it's really very simple, very
- 1:38simple. You make your life count, day by day, step by step,
- 1:45moment by moment, every single day. Three sixty five twenty four seven.
- 1:51That's what Legacy Living, Make your Life Count is all about Now.
- 1:56You can learn more about legacy living make your life count by visiting the Gloria
- 2:00Burgess website. That's Gloria Burgess dot com. And as I've mentioned before,
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- 2:49out one of my Ted talks at ted dot com. Now, today I
- 2:54want to talk with you about leadership, a topic that is near and dear
- 3:00to my heart. Specifically, we are going to focus on work life balance.
- 3:07Today I have a very special guest, Danielle Harvey Stenson, and she's
- 3:13going to share a little bit about her work and her leadership journey and how
- 3:19she thinks about work life balance. So who is Danielle well, she wears
- 3:24many, many hats. She's a mom, she's an avid, lifelong learner,
- 3:30and she's a very creative soul and a trusted friend and an amazing mentor.
- 3:38In a word, Danielle is an influencer, and to me, she
- 3:43is very inspiring. Danielle is a leader who makes a difference in her own
- 3:49life and in the lives of so many others throughout the world in her work
- 3:54at the University of Southern California. In that work, she works in alumni
- 4:02relations. Now, I met Danielle about ten years ago when she was looking
- 4:08for a keynote speaker for USC's Women's Alumni conference. At that time, I
- 4:15was seeking to expand my reach in terms of impacting more women leaders, and
- 4:20when I heard Danielle talk about her work at USC, she was absolutely in
- 4:27love with what she was doing. I mean, she was on fire,
- 4:30and I thought, yes, I'd love to work with this young woman who
- 4:35is truly passionate about her work. So it was a perfect match. Now,
- 4:42I'm also a USC alum, which made it even sweeter for all the
- 4:47USC folks out there like me fight on right now. As I said,
- 4:54USC is very lucky to have Danielle, and there she works in alum my
- 5:00relations, leading a diverse team of professionals. She and her staff are responsible
- 5:05for engaging all alumni lifelong and worldwide through a vast array of programs, services,
- 5:13and events. Worldwide. Her team is responsible two and four about five
- 5:20hundred thousand people in terms of providing them with an incredible ray of different programs,
- 5:28services, and events, including the USC's Women's Conference, the Reunion Weekend,
- 5:34and Alumni Leadership Conference. And knowing Danielle, it's a lot more than
- 5:41that. Danielle and her team are also responsible for the LGBTQ Alumni Association,
- 5:48Industry and affinity networks and generational groups, and she will tell us more about
- 5:55that during my conversation with her. As I and just a few moments ago,
- 6:01Danielle is positively on fire and she is committed to making an impact on
- 6:09the world, and in particular making an impact to empower women leaders to transform
- 6:15their world. When you hear her story, you will learn why she's so
- 6:21passionate about making a difference, about making an impact on the world in this
- 6:28particular way. Now. When I met Danielle, I was struck by her
- 6:33enthusiasm and by her passion, but these are just a couple of her many
- 6:41wonderful qualities. We are truly blessed and honored to have her as one of
- 6:48our guests on this show now. Danielle has worked at USC for a little
- 6:56over fifteen years, and her passion for teaching and lifelong learning show up in
- 7:02her work on a daily basis. And she has impacted so many professionals in
- 7:12terms of recruiting, onboarding, coaching, and mentoring. And like I said,
- 7:16she's actually one of my mentors as well. Danielle earned her bachelor's degree
- 7:21in education from USC's Rossier School of Education and an executive master's degree in leadership
- 7:30from USC's Price School of Public Policy. Danielle says that, among others,
- 7:36her mom has had an enormous impact on her life and has shaped her vision
- 7:43for her work. During my conversation with her, you will hear more about
- 7:48her story. You will also hear about some of the people and moments that
- 7:53have shaped and formed Danielle as a person of influence. People in moments who
- 7:59have shaped and formed her as a leader, all with a particular focus of
- 8:05serving other leaders in many ways. In her outlook on life, and in
- 8:11her work, Danielle pulls together the many threads of what my own life and
- 8:16work are all about. Now you've heard me talk about these threads and themes
- 8:20on this show, the themes of gratitude, authenticity, vulnerability, generosity,
- 8:26strength, passion, presence, hope, and possibility. I just love it.
- 8:35Two women, Danielle and me, from pretty different backgrounds, very different
- 8:41in age and lifestyles, yet we share so many common threads. Can I
- 8:48just tell you something? Danielle and I had a fabulous conversation and I'm so
- 8:52excited to have this amazing leader with us today. This is going to be
- 8:58a marvelous podcast. You don't want to miss a single word, So put
- 9:05on your walking shoes, grab your earbuds, or simply relax in your favorite
- 9:09chair, grab yourself a cup of coffee or tea, or a nice cool
- 9:13glass of water. You are going to want to take notes today. We're
- 9:20gonna have a great time. Okay. Now, before I jump into today's
- 9:26episode, I want to take just a moment to welcome you. If you're
- 9:31just joining us, I'm your host, Doctor Gloria, and this is Legacy
- 9:35Living. Make your life count. I'd also like to extend a special welcome
- 9:41to those of you who are joining my show, or if you're joining Talk
- 9:46network radio for the very first time, let me tell you you are in
- 9:50for a real treat. I'm excited to have you listening today, and I'm
- 9:56deeply honored that you've allowed me to be part of your day so you can
- 10:01be inspired by ideas and resources to make your life count. Today's episode is
- 10:09all about work life balance, a very important topic as you develop your own
- 10:18identity as a leader. Good morning, Danielle. How are you doing today?
- 10:26Hi, Gloria, I'm doing well. Thank you so much for having
- 10:30me. Oh, it's such an honor and a blessing to have you on
- 10:33the call today. Danielle. I know that my listeners can't wait to hear
- 10:37what you have to share with us, So welcome and again, thank you
- 10:41for joining me. Thank you. I am looking forward to today's conversation.
- 10:46Right, so, Danielle, let's begin if you would just say a little
- 10:52bit about yourself, you know, kind of tell us about you your journey
- 10:56to you know, where you are today, and the kinds of things that
- 11:03you do in your current work. Okay, sure, So I am currently
- 11:09the assistant vice president for Alumni Relations at the University of Southern California, and
- 11:16I have been working here for over thirteen years now, and you mentioned my
- 11:22journey. I actually started no Shame in my game as the assistant to the
- 11:28assistant of the head of the alumni Association, and it was a funny thing
- 11:33that happened on the way to the coliseum. Literally that I can I can
- 11:37share with you. But just going into what I do on a daily basis,
- 11:43I am responsible for alumni engagement around the world and with our various alumni
- 11:50constituents. So we have over four hundred thousand alumni that are living around the
- 11:56world, as I mentioned, and my task, along with several members of
- 12:01my staff, is to break that number down and to engage alumni on a
- 12:07personal level. So we will look at everything from how do alumni work,
- 12:13to where do they live, what are some of their personal interests, and
- 12:18then we'll build programs around those things. So there are alumni clubs of New
- 12:24York. There's an industry network based around real estate. We have professional network
- 12:31for women. You name it, there's probably an alumni program for it,
- 12:37and hopefully that speaks to those alumni. So I have a very creative job.
- 12:43In short, if you, if we would just want to boil it
- 12:48down, I get to be creative and you know, work with really amazing
- 12:52people. Well, it sounds like this is like the perfect job for you,
- 12:56Danielle. You and I have known each other or oh my going on
- 13:01seven or eight years now, and I know that you know, it's becoming
- 13:05very very rare for people like you, professionals to stay within an organization for
- 13:11you know, even more than three or four or five years, and you've
- 13:13been there for almost fourteen years now at USC. Can you tell us about
- 13:20a little bit more about that no shame in your game thing, you know,
- 13:22your path at USC, and why you stayed there longer than longer than
- 13:30the norm. Absolutely so too, I'll start with your last question first.
- 13:35So I've stayed at USC probably more than anything because no two days has been
- 13:43the same. And when you're a creative person like I believe myself to be,
- 13:48you know, you need that. I need that, I need that
- 13:52creative outlet I need to be, you know, thinking of things differently in
- 13:56new ways and how can we do things better? But to start at the
- 14:01beginning, as I was moving through my professional track, here. I I'm
- 14:11very inquisitive. I think it's the best way to say it. I'm inquisitive
- 14:15by nature. So when I was the assistant to the assistant, that means
- 14:18I got loaned out to the entire staff. It was hey, you go
- 14:22make these copies, or hey you we need you to answer the phone,
- 14:26or you know, Greek guest at the front desk. And I recognize my
- 14:30position in the organization. I was here to be a support and assist any
- 14:37and everyone who needed it, and by doing so, I actually learned a
- 14:41lot about our organization, about usc in things that I didn't even know as
- 14:46a student. I'm also an alum, which makes the job easier sometimes.
- 14:52But I'm also an alum, so I already had an eleve and an affinity
- 14:54for the university. But I got to discover people and programs and things that
- 15:01I had no clue about as a student. So when I became the assistant
- 15:07to the assistant, and as I described, you know, worked with everyone
- 15:09and for everyone. You know, I just went about my business in a
- 15:16way that allowed me to really discover, Wow, this is a bona fide
- 15:20profession. And not only is it something that I'm interested in doing. It's
- 15:26also something that I happened to be good at doing, and I would say
- 15:33that I probably would conclude that based on all of my other previous jobs.
- 15:41So I've worked at a museum, i was a docent. I've worked for
- 15:46a law firm. I was a file clerk. I've worked at a major
- 15:50hotel and was the night manager responsible for all of the night processes as well
- 15:56as all of the guest services. So all of those things combined allowed me
- 16:02to wear a lot of different hats and pivot when I need to pivot.
- 16:06So sometimes I get to manage the front desk and other times I'm simply standing
- 16:11there making copies and folding and stuffing envelopes. So, you know, being
- 16:17able to go from one task to the other has allowed me to be successful
- 16:22in those early years. To add to that quickly, I don't want to
- 16:27speak too long on this one question, but like most young professionals, I
- 16:34was a decade and a half younger than I am now when I first started.
- 16:38But I did look for other opportunities. I was saying, Okay,
- 16:41I think I've done everything I came here to do. I've learned everything I
- 16:45can learn, you know, I want to go and look for other opportunities,
- 16:49and strangely enough, those opportunities ended up being here. So I don't
- 16:56know if it's because I've put it out into the universe or if you know,
- 17:00I continue to just make myself indispensable. You know, my bosses,
- 17:07my supervisors would say, hey, Danielle's done all of this, and she
- 17:11seems to be, you know, successful, Let's add something else and let's
- 17:15provide another opportunity for her. So I've been very fortunate in that I've had
- 17:21an organization that have allowed me to grow up and progress and has progressed with
- 17:27me. So I think that's rare and a lot of organizations, but the
- 17:32fact that I've been able to do it here, I count it as a
- 17:34blessing. Well, you know you, I think you're the trajectory of your
- 17:40path there at USC Danielle. It's very inspiring and thank you for sharing,
- 17:45because a lot of people they kind of scratch their heads. They look at
- 17:49somebody like you and they go like, how did she do that? You
- 17:52know, like what kinds of steps do you have to take to get there?
- 17:55And you kind of told us you unpacked the deck a little bit for
- 17:57us so I really appreciate it, and it's very inspiring to hear to hear
- 18:03about your journey. So I know you described yourself as very creative and you're
- 18:08curious. You you like discovering new things. You're a learner, right,
- 18:12and so I would love for you to share with our listeners some of the
- 18:17key lessons me, you know, maybe like two or three lessons that you've
- 18:19learned through your journey at your time for your time at USC and also if
- 18:26you could share with us, like, you know, what are your biggest
- 18:30challenges as well, or I'm going to start with actually one of the lessons
- 18:36that I learned just growing up in my household, something that my mother told
- 18:40me that her father told her, and I don't know where he got it,
- 18:42but it's definitely something that now I even hear my children saying, anything
- 18:48worth doing is worth doing well. And whatever your job may be, if
- 18:56you're the one making the copies, you be the best copy maker you can
- 19:00be. If you're the one getting the coffee, you make that the best
- 19:03pot of coffee anyone's ever had in their lives. And you know, it
- 19:08sounds funny to say it, but I think there really is something to be
- 19:12said, and to make the point what I always share with my staff,
- 19:18or with young professionals or with students that I may be mentoring, you're always
- 19:23interviewing, even when you're not interviewing. And what I mean by that is
- 19:29people are going to observe you and the way that you go about your business
- 19:33and the way that you go about your work. Are you going into your
- 19:37work with passion? Are you approaching your work with care and thoughtfulness? I
- 19:47think that is something that people observe even when they're not paying attention. And
- 19:52as now somebody who isn't a super supervisor role, I now supervise other staff
- 19:59members. I can definitely notice that even if I don't check in with a
- 20:03particular staff member, you know, on a day to day basis, or
- 20:07I haven't checked in with them for a couple of weeks, I can tell
- 20:11when someone's sowing it in and when someone's really going about their work in a
- 20:15way that shows they care. So to speak to the challenges. I think
- 20:19another thing that I sort of live by day to day is never be satisfied
- 20:26with just good enough. And and I'll say that in a way, yes,
- 20:33sometimes we do just need to get it done, and I have a
- 20:37I have a short list of things. Okay, we've just got to do
- 20:40it, and you know, this is as good as it's gonna get.
- 20:44But after I've done something as big as you know, let's say, a
- 20:48reunion program or a women's conference or any of our big programs, immediately following
- 20:55and sometimes even the week of, I'll start thinking about, Okay, if
- 21:00where we are is is the best that we can do, what does next
- 21:06year's look like, or what does it look like the next time? What
- 21:08could we have done better? For the things that are outstanding, how can
- 21:14we replicate that or make it scalable so that we're not stressing ourselves unnecessarily.
- 21:18So that is something that I think again attaches itself to that first thing,
- 21:25which is if you're going to do something, do the best. And then
- 21:29if you did do something, take take pause and see how can we how
- 21:34can we do it better? How can we continue to get better? And
- 21:38that goes to the lifelong learning in me being a dedicated to always learning,
- 21:45you know, sort of mantra that I that I live by. And yeah,
- 21:51and then we just keep challenging ourselves. I feel like every single day
- 21:56that we wake up and open our eyes and have breath in our bodies.
- 22:02We're here to be a little bit better than we were before. And it's
- 22:06kind of like how our start my day, Like what's the day? Because
- 22:08like so those are like my three big ones and they're all related to one.
- 22:14Absolutely, you sound like you could have grown up in my household.
- 22:17I'm just if you say that, I know, And I was also thinking
- 22:22about I'm not even a football person, but yesterday the Seahawks, our local
- 22:26team here, just like blew it off the charts. And I only mention
- 22:30it because you talk about the challenge your particular things is never be satisfied with
- 22:36just being good enough. And Pete Carroll used to be the football coach at
- 22:41USC and he's now up here, and I'm just thinking, like, that's
- 22:45how he coached the team there, That's how he coaches the Seahawks, like
- 22:48never be satisfied, never be satisfied, and always look for those possibilities.
- 22:52So yeah, all right, So can you tell us a little bit,
- 22:59Danielle about your experiences and specifically what you do to educate and empower your staff.
- 23:07I mean, you have people reporting to you you haven't always had that,
- 23:12so you know, how do you do that? And maybe who did
- 23:15you learn from? Who influenced you? Yeah, you know, that is
- 23:19a great question. So just a little bit of a background I did not
- 23:26share, which is if it's not a parent to everyone. Now, my
- 23:30major was education, so it's not an accident that I am so committed and
- 23:37love the thought of lifelong learning. Every day we can get better, there's
- 23:41always something new to learn, and so I actually take the approach with my
- 23:48staff as how can we make this a teachable moment or what are we learning
- 23:55about ourselves, about our programs, what are we learning about the work that
- 24:00we're doing, and how can we apply that again to be better, to
- 24:03do better, to grow more, to progress. So, even in the
- 24:08times where we don't always do everything perfect right, because lest I TechEd,
- 24:15everybody's still human, you know, those of us who are on earth.
- 24:21So when we do get to those moments of hey, we did not hit
- 24:26our target or we totally missed the mark on that, instead of hey,
- 24:30let me come down on you and make you feel terrible about something that you
- 24:33probably are already making yourselves still terribles out again, let's unpack and let's look
- 24:40at what can we do differently, what did we learn about that, and
- 24:44how can we just use this to empower us to move forward. So it's
- 24:48so important to me because I've had terrible bosses. Not here at USC it's
- 24:52a wonderful university, but I've had terrible bosses in the past where instead of
- 24:57helping their bath members, you know, figure things out or to be successful,
- 25:03they were always finding thoughts this is wrong, that's wrong, you didn't
- 25:07do that right, you should have did this, and blah blah blah blah,
- 25:10but not really giving concrete information about how to be better in the in
- 25:17the future or how to be successful at that particular thing in the future.
- 25:21So I know, like I said, how that feels and how it just
- 25:26makes me want to you know, it made me at those times just want
- 25:29to throw my hands up or hey, you know what I'll take I'll take
- 25:32my my toy go elsewhere. So when I work with my staff, it
- 25:37is important for me to allow them to sail with grace, you know,
- 25:42you know, and and again then move forward. So that that's really important
- 25:48to me. Thank you and Danielle you mentioned but you had some some really
- 25:56good mentors as well. Can you tell us perhaps about one or to people
- 26:00who really influenced you. Yeah, I'll last you the next question after you
- 26:04answer this one. And my head's just kind of spinning because I'm loving talking
- 26:08with you. Oh my gosh. Yes, you know, you and I
- 26:11talk about this. I you and I can talk for hours, and I'll
- 26:15try I'll try to give some concrete answers and a short amount of time without
- 26:22going on and on like I'm doing right now. Uh. Some my mentors
- 26:26not to better up the host, but Gloria, I definitely count you as
- 26:32one of those women's leaders and confidants who I've been able to call and talk
- 26:41things out. And for my mentors that I've had over my lifetime, and
- 26:47there has been many some that I have been mentored by and they didn't know
- 26:52it, and then others that I've had, you know, a mentor relationship
- 26:56with formally, but to speak to our relationship and how we've come into each
- 27:02other's lives, I always say, you came into my life at the right
- 27:07time, and you helped me with our women's conference program, which I believe
- 27:11we'll talk about a little bit later. But since then, you've always been
- 27:15someone that I could call and say I have this idea and because of the
- 27:19trust, and this is unspoken, because of the trust, because of our
- 27:23openness, and because of our transparency and our ability to be vulnerable with one
- 27:29another. I just want to lay some things that are in my heart out
- 27:33to you. And you've been very recepted to that. And I think as
- 27:37mentors, just globally taking this back for a second, that's what mentors are.
- 27:44Really. That's when they're useful, right, Like we know about the
- 27:48professional mentors, Hey, mentor John Smith. Help me get this internship,
- 27:52or help me get this job, or help me with this interview. That's
- 27:56all great if those are needed. But those mentors where you can just be
- 28:00there and vulnerable and open and in a safe space, those are the ones
- 28:06that are really near and dear to my heart, which is why I always
- 28:08love talking to you. And I hope that others are able to find those
- 28:14mentors because they're just as important as those other tactical mentors that you need to
- 28:19get your jobs and get your promotions and get your your references and all those
- 28:25sorts of things. Absolutely, and you know, I really appreciate you sharing
- 28:30that, Danielle. You know so many people and women in particular, they
- 28:34kind of struggle sometimes with finding mentors. And I think you've just spoken to
- 28:41mentors are not created to do everything for you, and so we need different
- 28:45mentors and different arenas of our of our work life, professional and personal life.
- 28:51Yeah, so thank you, Yes, and yeah, I want to
- 28:55shift a conversation a little bit and talk a little bit about work life balance.
- 28:59For first of all, I know that there's been a really big push
- 29:03about work life balance in the last probably twenty years or so, maybe even
- 29:07more than that. I remember talking about work life balance when I was still
- 29:11back in high tech and that's been Mercy about twenty five years ago. And
- 29:18I was wondering, Danielle, if you could tell us what work life balance
- 29:22means to you, because it means different things to different people, and then
- 29:26just share a little bit with us about you know, do you feel balanced
- 29:30in your own work life situation and how do you achieve that balance? Absolutely,
- 29:37so, this is it's one that I always giggles. I won't say
- 29:41laugh at, but it makes me giggle to hear work life balance. I
- 29:45actually had someone recently in an interview asked me, well, what's the work
- 29:52life balance like here at your organization, and for me it's personal to everyone,
- 30:00So as an organization, I can answer that question. So work life
- 30:04balance that is a matter of you, yourself, the staff member or employee,
- 30:12being able to say, based on what is needed to get the job
- 30:18done and the time that I have to do it, I will be able
- 30:22to do my job within this time period and then go and do my life
- 30:29in this time period. And I think everyone balances it differently, so again
- 30:33full disclosure. I am the a VP, as I mentioned, so I
- 30:37have about fifteen different staff members here that I'm responsible for checking in on,
- 30:42working with, and supporting. On top of that, I also have my
- 30:47own programs that I'm specifically responsible for managing and leading. So that's a full
- 30:53professional plate. And if I allowed myself, I would be here eighteen,
- 30:57sometimes of twenty hours a day in any given week. That doesn't always happen
- 31:03maybe once or twice outside of that. I am married, I have three
- 31:10children, and I also have three stepchildren who I am responsible for loving and
- 31:15nurturing and supporting. So my life is completely fool not to mention my extended
- 31:21family that relies on me. Brothers, sister, mother, you know,
- 31:25all those all those wonderful people in things that are in our lives that we
- 31:29hold dear and feel responsible for. In two, so I'm saying that to
- 31:33say it is really Danielle's responsibility to look at what does she get paid to
- 31:38do and is important for her to get done so that she is successful,
- 31:44her staff is successful in USC feels they're getting what they need from me and
- 31:48us, and then I also need to assure myself and work with my family
- 31:52to give them what they also need, and that's my responsibility. I don't
- 31:59think that's the responsibility of my company unless my company is saying I don't care
- 32:04what you have to do. I need to hear at these times, even
- 32:06if it conflicts with what's going on here outside life, and at very rare
- 32:10in today's age that that happens. I've never been told that I can't go
- 32:15be somewhere for my children, for my husband, for my family. So
- 32:21anyway, I think I'm getting a little bit off. But I just want
- 32:22to say that balance one is personal. In two, it's really up to
- 32:28us to determine when and where things take place. Some days or weeks,
- 32:35the balance may tip in favor of your professional life and on some days and
- 32:39weeks things may align so that you were attending to all those things outside of
- 32:45your professional life. So that's just my take on it, and I'd love
- 32:49to hear your opinion on this as well. As you said you started hearing
- 32:52about it over twenty five years ago. What were some of the challenges that
- 32:57you faced, Gloria, I know that you were also family in marriage and
- 33:02in personal lives and professional life. Well, I love your response then,
- 33:07you know, so thank you for sharing sharing it with us. That it's
- 33:10very personal and that you have to take responsibility. I know a lot of
- 33:15you know, a lot of individuals that I've talked to over the years about
- 33:17work life balance. Some people think that it's the responsibility of the organization to
- 33:22provide that work life balance for them, and I'm I'm you know, I'm
- 33:28more in your camp. You know, I really believe that our professional lives
- 33:34is our responsibility, not our companies, not our organizations, and that goes
- 33:38for work life balance. For me, I think I take a page out
- 33:43of a friend of mine. She's actually from a little tiny country in Africa
- 33:49called Burkina Faso, and in her culture, she says glorious, She says,
- 33:53I don't get it. She said, you know, every time I
- 33:55come to the US, we talk about balance, and it's always like fifty
- 33:59fifth, she said. In my country, it's balance is what's needed today.
- 34:05You know, that's needed like right here, right now. And I
- 34:08love that because you know, in different seasons of our life, we have
- 34:13different obligations, different responsibilities, they're different calls, uh, And I'm going
- 34:17to save in demands on our life, both in our personal life as well
- 34:22as professional and so balance is really not something that's static. It's very dynamic.
- 34:28And like you're saying right now, Daniel, your responsibilities, I mean
- 34:32you're I couldn't when you said you're responsible for like four hundred thousand people,
- 34:36I'm going, like, what you know, that's that's a lot of people.
- 34:40That's a lot of people, right and you have fifteen staff that you
- 34:44you know, and and at some point in your life along the way,
- 34:46you didn't have that scope of responsibility, So your work life balance is probably
- 34:52different. You know, your children weren't in the life stage that they're in
- 34:55now. So for me, it's really about what's eat it right now,
- 35:00right here, right now, at this particular moment and in the season of
- 35:04my personal and professional life. Yeah, I completely agree. Yeah, I
- 35:09love that what's needed right now? I mean I say, all the time,
- 35:13life happens when we're busy making plans and I want to do Listen,
- 35:17Yeah, so hey, I'm gonna do these ten things today, and then
- 35:21life will say, Nope, no, you're not emergency call. You gotta
- 35:24get down to your kids school or you know, emergency call. Husband's car
- 35:30is on a flat and now you've got to help him get that situated.
- 35:35So yeah, it's it's nice that people think it's fifty fifty. Congratulations to
- 35:42anyone who is able to get and get to entertain and maintain that fifty fifty.
- 35:46But I think, as I someone else has told me over the years,
- 35:51you know, live long enough and you'll start to see a whole nother
- 35:55side. So absolutely, absolutely. Oh my great conversation. Thanks again to
- 36:05Danielle Harvey Stenson for being my very special guest. Now, if you'd like
- 36:12to learn more about Danielle's work, or, as she mentioned during today's conversation,
- 36:16if you want to contact her directly about programming and services that she offers
- 36:22through USC, you can reach out to Danielle via email at this address that's
- 36:28Harvey d h A r v e y d as in Danielle at EU SC
- 36:37dot e d U Harvey d at USC dot edu. Or you can reach
- 36:44out to her on Instagram or Twitter, and on Twitter, I'm going to
- 36:49spell out her handle, it's at d A n I E l i z
- 36:57as in zebra A Harvey at d A n I E l I z A
- 37:06Harvey h A r v e y. If you missed any part of this
- 37:12week's episode about work life balance, you can listen to it right here on
- 37:16Talk Network Radio. You can also catch us on iTunes or Android, Alexa,
- 37:22SoundCloud, and so many other places. Before I close today's show,
- 37:30I want to give a shout out to women around the world and to my
- 37:36mom. Yay, love you Mom. When Danielle mentioned her mom as one
- 37:42of the women leaders who influenced her, you know what, I was thinking
- 37:45the very same thing, as I know many of you were too. I
- 37:51actually ask this question to a lot of people now. If I'm presenting at
- 37:55a workshop for young leaders, as I just recently did, or as I
- 38:00have coming up because I'm always speaking right, one of the questions I ask
- 38:06is who inspired you? Who inspired you when you were a young girl or
- 38:12a young boy, Who did you look up to? Who did you admire
- 38:16and why? It seems like no matter where I am in the world,
- 38:22the response to that question is pretty much the same. Right, who inspired
- 38:28you? Who influenced you? This is what I hear my mom or my
- 38:32dad, or my grandma or my grandpa. It is truly amazing how much
- 38:38impact we have as leaders in our own home with our own children. So,
- 38:45moms and dads, even when it seems like you're a daughter or your
- 38:49son isn't paying any attention at all, can I just tell you something.
- 38:52They are. They are listening, they are soaking it in, and more
- 38:58than anything else, they are watching you. So let me be really clear.
- 39:04They are scoping you out right. They're observing everything you say and do.
- 39:13Most importantly, they are watching you to see of what you say and
- 39:16what you do line up. Our actions really do speak much louder than words.
- 39:23A good friend of mine, who is a former CEO of a very
- 39:28large company, also says, as a parent, as a leader, in
- 39:34any context, your walk has got to talk louder than your talk talks.
- 39:39I love that let me repeat it. She says, your walk has got
- 39:44to talk louder than your talk talks. Why is that? Because that's how
- 39:51we build the bridge called trust. That's how we strengthen our bond with those
- 39:58we love. That's how we deep in our relationships one step, one step
- 40:02at a time, inch by inch, mile by mile, and smile by
- 40:07smile at home, at work, and in any area of our lives,
- 40:13every single day. Three sixty five twenty four seven. So let me ask
- 40:20you this, How is your walk lining up with your talk? You know
- 40:22what? It is never too late to get your walk and your talk lined
- 40:28up, to get your act together, so to speak, right, so
- 40:31you can take it on the road and make the difference in someone's life that
- 40:36only you can make. Remember this, how you live is how you lead.
- 40:45How you live is how you lead. Now, if you happen to
- 40:51miss any part of this week's episode, or if you miss last week's,
- 40:54you can listen on the go right. You can check us out at www
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- 41:12That's Talknetwork Radio dot com. Forward Slash Hosts, Forward Slash Legacy Living.
- 41:20You can also catch us on iTunes, Audible, Alexa, SoundCloud,
- 41:25iHeart, tune Inspriager, dot Com, Talk Network Radio, and so many
- 41:32other places. You can also find me on the ted x site and listen
- 41:37to one of my ted Talks. Just type in my name to find me
- 41:42there. Before I close today, I want to thank each of you for
- 41:47tuning in to today's episode, for allowing me to share a bit about my
- 41:52journey with what legacy living is all about, not just living and learning,
- 41:58but living and learning and serving so that you make a difference in your own
- 42:04life and in the lives of others. It's about being on purpose every single
- 42:10day. Three sixty five twenty four seven. Legacy living is a powerful way
- 42:19to make your life count. Once again, I want to thank you for
- 42:25joining me for today's episode. I'm your host, doctor Gloria Gloria Burgess,
- 42:34and this has been Legacy Living, Make your Life Count. Please join me
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- 43:01in your life count. That's what legacy living is all about. Have a
- 43:07fantastic day and remember, make the days in your life count. God bless
- 43:15you. That's our show to day. I'm your host, doctor Gloria Gloria
- 43:35Burgess. I hope you'll join me again next time. Until then, don't
- 43:40just count the days in your life. Make the days in your life count.
- 43:46That's what legacy living is all about. Here's to you have a fantastic
- 43:52day and be sure to make it a yes kind of day. Remember to
- 43:58celebrate the music usick of your life. Make the days in your life count