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Fritz François, MD, Executive Vice President, Vice Dean, and Chief of Hospital Operations at NYU Langone Health · Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast

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  - This is Laura Dirda with the Becker's Healthcare
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  - podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
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  - Fritz Francois, executive vice president and
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  - vice dean as well as chief of hospital
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  - operations at NYU Langone Health. Fritz, it's a
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  - pleasure to have you on the podcast today.
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  - It is an absolute pleasure to join you,
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  - Laura.
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  - Fantastic. Well, I'm looking forward to hearing more
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  - from you about some of the great things
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  - you're doing at NYU Langone as well as
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  - how you're thinking about the future. But before
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  - we dig in, can you tell us a
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  - little bit more about yourself and your background?
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  - Sure. I am a,
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  - gastroenterologist
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  - by training, having done,
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  - medical school, my residency,
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  - fellowship,
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  - chief residency,
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  - as well at, NYU Langone
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  - and had my entire career at NYU.
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  - So it's been a fantastic place to grow
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  - as a, as a clinician,
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  - and also to contribute to the organization in
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  - various ways. That's great to hear. Now can
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  - you give us just a quick state of
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  - the union? What's gone well this year, and
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  - what are you looking forward to for the
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  - rest of 2026?
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  - Sure. You know, there's so many really exciting
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  - things,
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  - that have happened, at NYU Langone. And I
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  - will say that our focus over the past
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  - year has been first and foremost on on
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  - our culture, which is something that we we
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  - continually
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  - work on. But the importance of that actually
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  - is that we have a culture of exceptionalism,
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  - and we believe that it's it's important to
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  - continue
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  - to, you know, to focus on our staff,
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  - focus on the opportunities,
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  - for growth,
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  - professional
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  - development.
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  - And as a reflection of that, you know,
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  - we've had a number of prestigious awards this
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  - year, you know, recognizing us
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  - as
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  - a place where individuals
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  - want to come and to have careers.
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  - We have focus on, on, you know, hiring,
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  - like, military veterans, people with disabilities,
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  - new graduates,
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  - having entry level, like, workers, etcetera,
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  - and that has contributed significantly
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  - to developing an amazing,
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  - culture
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  - where it is about
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  - focusing
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  - on exceptionalism.
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  - So I would point to that as a
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  - key thing. The second
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  - is
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  - focus on quality
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  - and safety. That's our brand.
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  - And as a reflection of all the work,
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  - amazing work that so many people have done,
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  - you know, this past year,
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  - we have been recognized
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  - by,
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  - Visiant as the number one academic medical center
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  - for quality and safety, and we are extremely
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  - proud of that. We have also been recognized
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  - by The US News and World Report where
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  - all 13 of our of our,
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  - specialties
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  - were ranked in the top 20.
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  - And
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  - we have also focused on innovation
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  - this year. And one of the best examples
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  - that I can share with you, Laura, is...
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  - Has to do with the the advancement
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  - of, of the science of xenotransplant
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  - by doctor Robert Montgomery. I mean, I can't
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  - tell you how exciting,
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  - that work is, and it's just amazing to
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  - see
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  - that, that the the, the efforts that are
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  - going on that will have the potential to
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  - save so many lives in the years to
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  - come. And finally, one of the key things
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  - that that we've focused on this past year,
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  - we continue to focus on actually is has
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  - to do with, access.
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  - And, you know, the demand for our world
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  - class health care continues to increase, and we
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  - have continued
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  - to open up new ambulatory practices.
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  - We've,
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  - continued to engage,
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  - various partners, and and we are planning
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  - on new inpatient spaces.
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  - So those are some of the things in
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  - terms of the, you know, the state of
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  - the union, if you will, and what we've...
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  - We're continuing to work on for 2026.
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  - That's great to hear. And, you know, I,
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  - just... I can underscore the access challenge that
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  - you mentioned. I know it's something that a
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  - lot of some different hospitals and systems
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  - talk about when we speak with them across
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  - the board. And so,
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  - you know, opening new ambulatory as well as
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  - interesting that you're, expanding the inpatient spaces and
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  - to your point having, more,
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  - innovation going on within the organization as an
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  - academic system too doing the research and development
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  - there. So how do you balance
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  - all of that?
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  - You know, when when you're looking at hospital
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  - operations, there's so many things going on. How
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  - do you balance all that, get the right
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  - resources, the right places, and keep people focused
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  - on, you know, what's important today and revolutionary
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  - today as well as building for the future?
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  - It's a wonderful question, and I'll tell you
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  - that, part of the way that we do
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  - it. And so... And to your point, it's
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  - a lot of effort, but it's a... It
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  - it takes an incredibly dedicated team of, of
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  - individuals.
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  - And what we focus on... Again, I'll come
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  - back to this notion of trying to
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  - deliver the best possible care
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  - to our patients
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  - and being singularly focused on serving,
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  - the communities.
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  - And that's why when we think about how
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  - we actually are expanding, we think about
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  - where our patients are coming from. How can
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  - we bring the care to them? How can
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  - we engage,
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  - the communities in which they live
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  - so that we can ensure that it's not
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  - just these touch points, meaning that when they
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  - come to the clinic or where they come
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  - to the ED or the hospital,
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  - but we're also thinking about how do we
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  - ensure that when they transition back home that
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  - they have the support actually that they need
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  - and that we have an environment, a network
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  - that can support them close to their,
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  - to the... To where they live and where
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  - they work. That's been our philosophy, and and
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  - that's really a guiding principle for us.
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  - Absolutely. I I love that it seems like
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  - so critical and central to the mission mission
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  - of health care too is thinking about that
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  - patient first and how to engage them and
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  - really fulfill their needs. Now
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  - I know a lot of great things happening,
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  - but there's also some headwinds,
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  - upfront. So what are some of the big
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  - headwinds that you're thinking about and keeping an
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  - eye on for the future? Yeah. You know,
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  - you're absolutely correct, Laura. So as far as
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  - headwinds, you know, I would start with,
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  - the labor force. You know, the Thailand,
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  - pipeline is one that,
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  - we keep a very close eye on, and
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  - there are challenges there, especially as it relates
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  - to
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  - technical staff. And we wanna make sure that,
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  - that we have,
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  - the, you know, individuals
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  - who can
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  - fill the various roles. And the reality is
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  - that,
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  - there's...
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  - Some of those, positions
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  - are very difficult to, you know, to find
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  - the individuals
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  - either because,
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  - there's limited numbers who are going into those
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  - areas
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  - or there's the competition
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  - for a smaller pool, whether, you know, like
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  - farm... Pharmacy
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  - techs or radiology techs, etcetera. And so that's,
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  - that's a challenge.
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  - The second is, you know, though we... I
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  - mentioned that we're working on on access, but
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  - capacity is a challenge, you know, in terms...
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  - And the reason for that is... Has to
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  - do with the fact that we have an
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  - aging population
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  - where the demand for health care actually is
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  - increasing.
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  - And so the... As we continue
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  - to expand, we realize that that demand continues
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  - to be there. And so we're... We have
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  - to be creative in terms of how we
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  - think about
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  - care delivery models,
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  - not just in the traditional
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  - way, but also thinking about care at home.
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  - And so capacity is yet an, is a
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  - headwind that we have to consider... That we
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  - keep an eye on. And the third,
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  - I would say would be, cybersecurity.
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  - And it is... Has a significant potential, obviously,
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  - for a disruption.
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  - And not only is it a threat to
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  - hospitals and health care facilities, but also
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  - our partners. Meaning, think about the the supply
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  - chain and how that might be disrupted,
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  - financial organizations, etcetera.
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  - So it is something that we are prepared
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  - for, and and we know that it is
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  - a headwind. It's just on... Unfortunately, the reality
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  - that we live in, that we live in.
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  - But I do see it as a significant
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  - headwind.
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  - Absolutely. I think that makes a lot of
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  - sense. And, you know, when you look at
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  - things like cybersecurity or, supply chain disruptions that
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  - are likely coming, but you just don't really
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  - necessarily
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  - know when or where or or, just the
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  - the capacity for that. And so there's a
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  - element of uncertainty involved. How do you prepare
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  - for those things that,
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  - you know, are are largely uncertain, but, you
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  - know, you need a strong foundation with the
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  - teams in order to overcome when they do
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  - happen? Yeah. It's a... Yeah. We're really glad
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  - you asked. You know, one of the key
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  - things for us that we learned many years
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  - ago, and it goes back to,
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  - believe it or not, Superstorm Sandy, where we
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  - weren't as prepared as we could be. And
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  - for the very first time in our entire
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  - entire history, like, you know, our... The hospital
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  - was completely shut down.
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  - All that... Everything stopped literally. We could not
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  - take care of patients. The hospital was closed.
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  - We had to find other places to educate
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  - our our students for a time. The research
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  - mission was disrupted.
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  - And moving forward, what we did is that
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  - we started, doing these tabletop exercises. We developed
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  - the,
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  - emergency management and enterprise resilience group
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  - that help us to do... Develop what I
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  - call the what if
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  - culture. Meaning, what if this happens? What would
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  - we do? How prepared are we? Can we
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  - develop plans?
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  - And since that time, every year, we do
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  - at least two or sometimes three
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  - tabletop exercises where we make up scenarios,
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  - and we, you know, stress test them. And,
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  - you know, how good we think we we
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  - are... How well are we are we prepared
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  - for, let's say, a major storm or it
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  - might be, again, like a cybersecurity incident
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  - or it might be an active shooter, etcetera.
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  - But I believe our our, teams actually go
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  - through these scenarios
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  - and prepare for what might be possible.
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  - And one of the things that I'm most
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  - proud of of this organization, Laura, is that,
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  - one of the the cyber... One of the
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  - tabletop exercises that we did
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  - occurred on 01/08/2020.
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  - And the scenario that we made up, completely
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  - made up, is what if there was an
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  - outbreak of a respiratory virus?
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  - On 01/08/2020,
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  - the entire leadership team with the
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  - dean convened
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  - to think about and to work through that
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  - scenario.
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  - And, of course, the reason I stressed that
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  - date, 01/08/2020,
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  - was, this was before anyone knew that there
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  - was going to be an outbreak
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  - of, you know, of COVID and came a
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  - pandemic. So believe it or not, we literally
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  - prepared
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  - for a scenario that eventually
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  - came to fruition.
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  - And so we had a lead time in
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  - terms of thinking about all the things that
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  - one can think about as far as the
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  - supplies, where would a patient go, like, how
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  - would we manage this. So that has been
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  - a a really important element for us as
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  - part of our culture, which is what if.
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  - Just being prepared, as prepared as one can
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  - be.
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  - Wow. How fortuitous
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  - that you have that exercise and, you know,
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  - it's just,
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  - coincidence,
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  - is really stunning there. But being prepared and
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  - having that ability to know how things are
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  - gonna go, I can imagine,
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  - makes things a little bit more easy to
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  - to come once they do come down the
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  - line. Absolutely.
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  - Excellent. And, you know, I think on the
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  - other side of the coin too, I know
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  - there's a lot of opportunities for growth. And
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  - so could you talk a little bit more
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  - about that? How are you thinking about growth
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  - over the next two to three years or
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  - so?
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  - Yeah. You know, I'm glad you're asked because,
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  - you know, our approach to think, to growth
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  - is is to think about, again, like, be...
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  - What do our patients need? And we and
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  - we... Our... That patient centered
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  - approach to things has allowed us to identify
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  - several areas based on
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  - what what we're seeing. Like...
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  - And they include neurology,
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  - and that that makes sense when you consider,
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  - you know, what I mentioned before about the
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  - aging population.
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  - Cancer care is another, and that spans the
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  - gamut in terms of,
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  - you know, various, areas,
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  - not only in terms of,
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  - adults, but also even,
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  - childhood
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  - cancers.
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  - Cardiovascular
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  - medicine
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  - is, something else that we see that there
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  - is going to be,
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  - continue to be, growth opportunities, and that includes
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  - not only the the prototypical
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  - cardiovascular
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  - health, but also cardiometabolic
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  - disease and the approach to such and the
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  - shift in in the way in which things
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  - have shifted
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  - with new medications that are currently in existence
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  - and those coming down the pike.
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  - Orthopedics,
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  - is yet another area again because of the
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  - aging population
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  - and the,
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  - the innovations that have occurred actually in those
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  - in those areas.
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  - We think that there's growth there. And and
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  - finally, behavioral health,
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  - which is, another area that we continue to
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  - see, very, very high demand. And so I
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  - would highlight those actually as, in the next
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  - two or three years, actually, as being a
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  - very big opportunities of growth.
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  - That makes a ton of sense. You know
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  - what? I love it. And definitely is exciting
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  - to hear those spaces where adding services and
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  - advancing some of the technologies and innovation in
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  - them,
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  - really now provide opportunities for that additional capacity
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  - in better patient outcomes.
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  - Absolutely.
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  - Now before we wrap up here, I'm curious.
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  - Who's a leader, really, from any industry that
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  - you admire and why?
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  - No.
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  - So it's a great question. I have a...
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  - Yeah. I could point to a number of
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  - of of individuals, historical figures, etcetera. But if
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  - if I focus on more
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  - of,
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  - modern,
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  - individuals,
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  - you know, one person stands out to me,
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  - and,
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  - one of the individuals that stands out actually
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  - is, Jensen Huang. And the reason for that
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  - actually is a... Is that, you know, when
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  - you read about,
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  - Jensen Huang, he's a
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  - visionary leader who also has, you know, like
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  - a more of a long,
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  - long time horizon
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  - where he's really
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  - looking at things in a way
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  - where it's very much about the future.
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  - And he reminds me almost like as somebody
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  - who's not a... Like a distance
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  - runner as opposed to a sprinter. He's in
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  - it for the long haul. He understands what
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  - it's gonna take, and there's going to be
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  - sort of a cadence to how things develop.
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  - And with that in mind, he's willing to,
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  - to pivot
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  - as things change. And when you look at
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  - what has happened to his company and how
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  - he's actually has evolved both personally as well
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  - as with companies, you know, that certainly speaks
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  - to it that that he has,
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  - changed with the various opportunities,
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  - not being,
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  - sclerotic
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  - in terms of the way he thinks.
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  - And there's another element, which I also think
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  - is important as a as a leader that,
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  - he embodies, which is a level of authenticity
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  - and transparency,
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  - frankly, with, what is going on. Like, you
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  - know, if, you know, where it's not about
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  - just sometimes mistakes... He makes mistakes or things.
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  - They are setbacks
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  - and willing to talk about it. So
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  - I... And and the reason that I that
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  - I that I came up as as, as
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  - an example is because
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  - what I just described are things that are
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  - important to us at NYU Langone Health as
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  - an organization and and something that
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  - our leaders also believe in. In other words,
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  - this notion of being,
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  - visionary,
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  - having a long view, understanding
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  - that in health care that we're not in
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  - it just for a minute, but rather thinking
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  - about where are we going to be three
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  - years from now, five years, even ten years
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  - from now. Where are things going, and how
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  - do we plant seeds that will bear fruit?
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  - And being authentic and transparent.
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  - We absolutely believe actually in transparency. And similar
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  - to
• 16:41
  - how Jensen actually uses data and he thinks
• 16:43
  - about innovation,
• 16:45
  - we have also,
• 16:47
  - you know, use
• 16:48
  - and leverage
• 16:49
  - data and built, like, you know, analytics, you
• 16:53
  - know, an analytics
• 16:54
  - center with dashboards
• 16:56
  - that allow us to keep a finger on
• 16:58
  - the pulse of
• 16:59
  - what's going on, and it allows us to
• 17:01
  - pivot. Again, similarly to how actually
• 17:04
  - is, his latest company. So he is a
• 17:07
  - leader that I would point to as someone
• 17:08
  - that I admire in terms of what he's
• 17:10
  - done in different industry than health care, certainly,
• 17:13
  - but similar characteristics
• 17:15
  - in terms of what's important
• 17:17
  - and how, you know, he can continue
• 17:19
  - to innovate and think about the future.
• 17:24
  - Absolutely. I love that. I think all those
• 17:26
  - points are so critical when you look at,
• 17:28
  - you know, where... What it takes to be
• 17:29
  - a visionary, how to build that vision, and
• 17:31
  - then execute on it. So,
• 17:33
  - I love that. Fritz, thank you so much
• 17:35
  - for joining us on the podcast today. This
• 17:37
  - has been such a fun conversation. You know,
• 17:39
  - really covered a lot of ground, and it
• 17:41
  - was great to to learn and hear from
• 17:43
  - you. And I know you'll be speaking at
• 17:44
  - our CEO, CFO roundtable, so I look forward
• 17:46
  - to continuing the conversation in November.
• 17:49
  - It was my pleasure, Laura. Thank you for
• 17:51
  - the invitation.