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- 0:10Speaker 1: Warning!
- 0:11Speaker 2: The Root! The Root! The Root's on fire!
- 0:14Speaker 1: You're about to experience the most high-octane, pedal-to-the-metal controversial show
- 0:18Speaker 1: of your life. Please buckle up and hold on tightly.
- 0:21Speaker 1: This station is not responsible for injuries. This is Wayne
- 0:25Speaker 1: Allen Root, America's favorite conservative rock star, direct from the
- 0:29Speaker 1: entertainment capital of the world, Las Vegas. What time is it?
- 0:33Speaker 3: It's time for War!
- 0:37Speaker 1: Here's your host, 100% raw truth, 100% American made, the warrior,
- 0:43Speaker 1: Wayne Allen Root.
- 0:57Speaker 2: All right, Wayne Allen Root, the root, the root, the
- 0:59Speaker 2: root is on fire. Welcome back to the show. Today
- 1:03Speaker 2: is Tuesday. Sorry I missed yesterday. I was out for
- 1:06Speaker 2: one day because I was in Washington, D.C. I don't
- 1:08Speaker 2: know how many of you know, but I had a
- 1:11Speaker 2: private audience with the President of the United States, President
- 1:14Speaker 2: Donald J. Trump, greatest president of my lifetime, one of
- 1:16Speaker 2: the greatest presidents in the history of America, certainly one
- 1:19Speaker 2: of the top five in the history of America. And
- 1:22Speaker 2: I've got a few photos from my trip to share
- 1:25Speaker 2: with all of you who are watching on as opposed
- 1:27Speaker 2: to listening, because this is a simulcast. It is a
- 1:29Speaker 2: video podcast slash TV show, as well as a radio show,
- 1:33Speaker 2: nationally syndicated. So I've got some photos to share with you.
- 1:37Speaker 2: I hope that the guys have them over at Patriot TV.
- 1:40Speaker 2: We can put them up on the screen, and I'll
- 1:42Speaker 2: describe what you're seeing if you put them up on
- 1:43Speaker 2: the screen, boys. And then I'll know you've got them.
- 1:46Speaker 2: If you don't have them, then I guess... I guess
- 1:49Speaker 2: I'm in the wrong place here. What's going on? Where
- 1:51Speaker 2: are the photos, guys? I know they were sent to you,
- 1:55Speaker 2: so they're supposed to be there. All right, well, I'll
- 1:57Speaker 2: assume you don't have them. I don't know what's going on.
- 1:59Speaker 2: I'll have them by the next ad break, I'll tell
- 2:00Speaker 2: you that much. They're supposed to have them, and they
- 2:03Speaker 2: should be up on the screen as we speak. Come on, guys.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Getting them back on now? Is that what you're telling me? Okay,
- 2:12Speaker 2: all right, well, I told them I was going to
- 2:15Speaker 2: open the show with the pictures, so... What can I
- 2:18Speaker 2: tell you? I'll move on and just tell you. Oh,
- 2:20Speaker 2: there we go. There we go.
- 2:22Speaker 3: All right.
- 2:22Speaker 2: So give me the picture. Go ahead. Put it up
- 2:24Speaker 2: on the screen. Let me describe what people are seeing.
- 2:26Speaker 2: There were like eight pictures, so I want them all
- 2:28Speaker 2: up there. So there's one photo, and that's me and
- 2:32Speaker 2: my lovely wife, Cindy. By the way, everywhere we went
- 2:34Speaker 2: in Washington, D.C., I met with senators, I met with congressmen,
- 2:37Speaker 2: I met with State Department, I met with DOJ, I
- 2:39Speaker 2: met with the President of the United States, all of
- 2:42Speaker 2: his staff. Everybody said the same thing. Your wife is gorgeous, man. Wow,
- 2:45Speaker 2: you got some wife. She's number two in America to Melania.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. Melania's one, and Cindy's 1A.
- 2:52Speaker 2: There's President Trump staring right at Cindy. Ha ha ha!
- 2:56Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm in the room too, President. I'm here too.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Come on. He's staring right at Cindy's legs. That's my
- 3:03Speaker 2: kind of guy, all-American guy. That's me in front of
- 3:05Speaker 2: the DOJ, Department of Justice, where I was going to
- 3:07Speaker 2: meet with my buddy, who's the assistant DA, excuse me,
- 3:10Speaker 2: AG of the United States of America, Ed Martin, and
- 3:13Speaker 2: also the special prosecutor tasked with putting Letitia James and
- 3:17Speaker 2: Adam Schiff in prison. I had a long talk with him.
- 3:19Speaker 2: There is my wife and I with President Trump. I
- 3:22Speaker 2: think we've got a couple more photos. There's one with
- 3:25Speaker 2: me having a deep discussion with President Trump. We had
- 3:27Speaker 2: a really important discussion, which... I won't tell you about it,
- 3:30Speaker 2: I never share things like that, but it was a
- 3:31Speaker 2: good discussion. And there is the challenge coin that President
- 3:36Speaker 2: Trump gave me. Not many people have those in the
- 3:38Speaker 2: whole world. A challenge coin, that's the front and that's
- 3:40Speaker 2: the back. The back is his family crest. His family
- 3:46Speaker 2: crest is on the back of that. The Trump family
- 3:48Speaker 2: crest on the front is United States of America, President
- 3:51Speaker 2: of the United States of America. So it was a beautiful,
- 3:55Speaker 2: beautiful trip and a beautiful visit to the Oval Office,
- 3:59Speaker 2: And my friend Ed Martin at the DOJ to find
- 4:01Speaker 2: out what's going on there. And I think we're going
- 4:03Speaker 2: to have some good news very soon, preferably tomorrow. And
- 4:08Speaker 2: a great meeting at the State Department with my great
- 4:11Speaker 2: friend Lee Lipton, who's in charge of OAS office. I
- 4:14Speaker 2: think it's Office of Administration of American States, I think
- 4:17Speaker 2: is what. OAS stands for, but he's basically an ambassador
- 4:20Speaker 2: in charge of, I think it's 31 Latin American countries.
- 4:24Speaker 2: And he is just an unbelievable guy. Lee Lipton's a superstar.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Thank you, Lee. We had dinner with Lee last night,
- 4:30Speaker 2: Cindy and I. Really fantastic stuff. So it was a
- 4:35Speaker 2: great trip all the way around. Everything was a dream.
- 4:39Speaker 2: I mean, it's a memory of a lifetime. How many
- 4:41Speaker 2: people ever get to go to the Oval Office? Not many.
- 4:44Speaker 2: And I didn't even mention that we were at the
- 4:45Speaker 2: Oval Office. It wasn't just me at the Oval Office
- 4:48Speaker 2: for a meeting and brought my wife, Cindy, there too.
- 4:51Speaker 2: It was Natasha Owens and her husband, Dave. And they
- 4:55Speaker 2: were there because she is this, you know, angelic singer,
- 4:59Speaker 2: a Christian singer with an angelic voice. I mean, her
- 5:02Speaker 2: voice makes you melt. She's got such a great voice.
- 5:05Speaker 2: And she sang the song Trump won and you know it.
- 5:07Speaker 2: It went to number one in the world. And then
- 5:10Speaker 2: I co-wrote with her a song called The Chosen One
- 5:14Speaker 2: about Donald Trump. And it was all about inspired by
- 5:17Speaker 2: my Newsmax TV days. By the way, I'll be a
- 5:20Speaker 2: guest on Newsmax TV today at 5.50 my time here
- 5:25Speaker 2: on the West Coast, 8.50 East Coast time tonight with
- 5:28Speaker 2: Rob Fitterty. Is it Finerti? I think that's how you
- 5:30Speaker 2: pronounce it. I will be his guest to talk about
- 5:33Speaker 2: America and Israel and some tweets that I put out
- 5:38Speaker 2: about Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, how they're dividing our
- 5:42Speaker 2: country and dividing our party and try to turn everyone
- 5:45Speaker 2: into a Jew hater, which is disgusting and disgraceful. And
- 5:48Speaker 2: it's got to stop. It's got to stop now. And
- 5:51Speaker 2: I'll be talking about that tonight on Newsmax, 8.50 East
- 5:54Speaker 2: Coast time. But I was the lead anchor and host
- 5:57Speaker 2: on Newsmax, and I was the guy who, when someone
- 6:02Speaker 2: called in, because I took call-ins, and someone called in
- 6:05Speaker 2: and said, you know, we know you're Jewish, Wayne. Why
- 6:08Speaker 2: do Jews so hate Trump? And I said, well, in America,
- 6:12Speaker 2: and this is off the top of my head, of course,
- 6:14Speaker 2: in America, they made Trump. But in in Israel, they're
- 6:17Speaker 2: naming train stations after him and soccer teams and roads
- 6:21Speaker 2: and highways. Trump, Israel, they love him there. They love
- 6:26Speaker 2: him more than they love any Israeli president ever or
- 6:29Speaker 2: prime minister ever. And I said they love him like
- 6:32Speaker 2: he's the king of the Jews and he's the chosen one.
- 6:35Speaker 2: And Trump walked out the next morning on the White
- 6:39Speaker 2: House lawn in front of the White House press corps
- 6:41Speaker 2: and said, Wainwright said it, I am the chosen one.
- 6:45Speaker 2: And as a joke, it was funny. And I said
- 6:48Speaker 2: it as a kind of a wise-ass comment, right? Trump
- 6:51Speaker 2: isn't hated. Trump's loved by Jews in Israel. He's like
- 6:54Speaker 2: the king of the Jews and the chosen one. That
- 6:56Speaker 2: wasn't meant to be a serious comment. It was meant
- 6:59Speaker 2: to be a funny comment, comedic. And... Trump was meant
- 7:04Speaker 2: to be comedic, but the world, media who hates me
- 7:07Speaker 2: and hates Trump, took it as a serious thing, and
- 7:10Speaker 2: it became the biggest news story in America and the
- 7:11Speaker 2: biggest firestorm in America, media firestorm in America and Israel
- 7:15Speaker 2: and across the world. Christians were debating. Jews in Israel
- 7:19Speaker 2: were debating. Who is this Wayne Ruth that called Trump
- 7:22Speaker 2: the king of the Jews and the chosen one? Who
- 7:25Speaker 2: made Wayne Root the guy who decides that Trump is
- 7:27Speaker 2: the chosen one and the king of the Jews? I mean,
- 7:29Speaker 2: it was a joke. It was absolutely an off-the-cuff remark
- 7:34Speaker 2: meant to be funny and tongue-in-cheek. But you know what?
- 7:38Speaker 2: It turned out to be true. It turned out to
- 7:40Speaker 2: be true because Trump is the chosen one. After that
- 7:42Speaker 2: bullet that just missed him and the assassin ready to
- 7:44Speaker 2: blow him away at the golf course, I'm telling you,
- 7:47Speaker 2: Trump is the chosen one. And we wrote the song,
- 7:50Speaker 2: The Chosen One, Natasha Owens and I and her wonderful team.
- 7:54Speaker 2: including some Emmy Award winners and kings of music. And
- 7:59Speaker 2: the song went to number 20 on iTunes, and it's
- 8:01Speaker 2: got over 2 billion social media views. And she presented
- 8:05Speaker 2: me with a plaque in Vegas a couple of months ago,
- 8:08Speaker 2: you know, to thank me. There's the plaque right there
- 8:11Speaker 2: to thank me for 2 billion social media views for
- 8:14Speaker 2: the song that I helped co-write that I inspired. the
- 8:17Speaker 2: chosen one about Donald Trump. And so we decided to
- 8:20Speaker 2: present that plaque to President Trump at the White House.
- 8:22Speaker 2: So in addition to my meeting with President Trump, we
- 8:24Speaker 2: presented this beautiful plaque about the chosen one. And he
- 8:29Speaker 2: was so touched. And that was what he handed us.
- 8:33Speaker 2: He handed us the challenge coins, the president's challenge coins. Oh,
- 8:38Speaker 2: I should have had one. I'll get a few in
- 8:39Speaker 2: the break. I didn't bring it up here. I meant
- 8:41Speaker 2: to bring it up. I'll bring it to you in
- 8:42Speaker 2: the break. But it was a great day. How many
- 8:45Speaker 2: people do you know that get a meeting in the
- 8:46Speaker 2: Oval Office? How many hosts on TV get a meeting
- 8:49Speaker 2: in the Oval Office? Not too many. Not too many.
- 8:52Speaker 2: So God bless. What a blessing. God bless America. God
- 8:56Speaker 2: bless President Trump. And God bless God, right? When you
- 9:01Speaker 2: believe in God, great things happen, right? So only in America.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Only in America. My dad was the biggest conservative in
- 9:07Speaker 2: the world. A Jewish conservative butcher from Brownsville, Brooklyn. And
- 9:11Speaker 2: he's been dead for 30-plus years, 33 years. Died in 1992.
- 9:16Speaker 2: But I know he's looking down from heaven, and he's smiling,
- 9:18Speaker 2: and he's got a tear in his eye. My mom
- 9:20Speaker 2: as well, obviously. Mom and dad, David and Stella Root,
- 9:23Speaker 2: looking down from heaven. They were two of the founders
- 9:25Speaker 2: of the New York State Conservative Party. And here's their
- 9:28Speaker 2: son hanging out with the president in the Oval Office.
- 9:30Speaker 2: I mean, it's a dream come true. And hanging out
- 9:32Speaker 2: at the DOJ with the Assistant Attorney General of the
- 9:35Speaker 2: United States of America and Special Prosecutor Ed Martin. All right.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Great stuff. Great stuff. Let me talk a little bit
- 9:45Speaker 2: about some of the news of the day. Trump slams
- 9:47Speaker 2: deranged Jack Smith after bombshell memo exposes the Biden FBI
- 9:52Speaker 2: spying on GOP senators. Jack Smith spied on eight Republican
- 9:58Speaker 2: senators as part of his Arctic campaign. frost investigation snooped
- 10:02Speaker 2: on the phone records of republican members of congress during
- 10:06Speaker 2: its january 6th investigation and christopher ray was the head
- 10:10Speaker 2: of the fbi at that point and special counsel jack
- 10:14Speaker 2: smith was leading the biden justice department's investigation into donald
- 10:18Speaker 2: trump It's truly amazing. Case ID for the record, it's
- 10:22Speaker 2: Arctic Frost. Sensitive investigative matter, it says on the cover.
- 10:28Speaker 2: You know, that's interesting because when Tom Fitton of Judicial
- 10:31Speaker 2: Watch subpoenaed the IRS for my IRS tax records, they
- 10:36Speaker 2: were forced to hand them over after I think it
- 10:38Speaker 2: was like an 18-month battle. Even though by law they
- 10:42Speaker 2: had to hand it over in 30 days. They took
- 10:44Speaker 2: 18 months and battled us and then when they finally
- 10:46Speaker 2: handed it over, my IRS file said sensitive investigative sensitive
- 10:51Speaker 2: national case on the cover of it. Why was Wayne
- 10:54Speaker 2: Root a sensitive national case? Because it was a government
- 10:59Speaker 2: communist conspiracy to destroy conservatives like me and eight US
- 11:03Speaker 2: senators by Jack Smith. Trump is the greatest. I'll tell
- 11:08Speaker 2: you a little bit about my thoughts on Trump and
- 11:10Speaker 2: what he had to say to me to end the
- 11:12Speaker 2: interview when we get back. And I'll go get that coin.
- 11:15Speaker 2: I want to show it to you in live. In
- 11:18Speaker 2: my hand. When we get back. The presidential challenge coin
- 11:22Speaker 2: from President Donald J. Trump. And remind me, Pitar, to
- 11:25Speaker 2: tell them what Trump said when the meeting ended. You'll
- 11:29Speaker 2: enjoy it. We'll be right back. Wayne Allyn Root. The Root,
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- 15:06Speaker 2: we're on the route, the route, the route, the route's
- 15:08Speaker 2: on fire. Welcome to the show. Just back from the
- 15:11Speaker 2: Oval Office in Washington, D.C. at the White House. Can
- 15:14Speaker 2: I tell you about the whole experience? I mean, walking
- 15:16Speaker 2: into the White House, amazing. Walking into the waiting room
- 15:20Speaker 2: for the Oval Office, amazing. Talking to the Marine Guard
- 15:25Speaker 2: stationed outside, protecting the President, amazing. Talking to the Secret Service, amazing.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Walking into the Oval Office, beyond amazing. Because I've met
- 15:35Speaker 2: Trump so many times now. I've met Trump like 50 times,
- 15:40Speaker 2: giving speeches and fundraisers and my honeymoon at Mar-a-Lago and
- 15:46Speaker 2: other trips to Mar-a-Lago and 16 TV interviews and radio
- 15:50Speaker 2: interviews right here on my shows. Got to be an
- 15:53Speaker 2: all-time record. So, I mean, I know Trump very well,
- 15:56Speaker 2: but I've never walked into the Oval Office, ever. And
- 15:59Speaker 2: so that was an experience of a lifetime. It's all gold.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Everything's gold. That's not the way it used to be.
- 16:04Speaker 2: Trump made it that way. Everything's gold. It's just one
- 16:08Speaker 2: big gold-plated room and gold rugs and gold drapes and,
- 16:13Speaker 2: of course, the famous Resolute desk with the Abraham Lincoln
- 16:16Speaker 2: statue on it. Also staring at Cindy's legs. It's just
- 16:22Speaker 2: a great place. Now, I promised you I'd get the coin.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Here it is. It's not really a coin because like,
- 16:28Speaker 2: you know, here's my watch. There's the size of the watch.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Look at the size of this presidential coin. It's a
- 16:34Speaker 2: challenge coin, I guess you'd call it. Just like if
- 16:37Speaker 2: you meet a Marine colonel, he'll give you a challenge coin.
- 16:40Speaker 2: It's like a sign of honor that they carry around
- 16:43Speaker 2: these chits with them, and they give these coins to
- 16:45Speaker 2: you if they like you. They give you their coin
- 16:48Speaker 2: as a general or a colonel. This is the President
- 16:50Speaker 2: of the United States giving me his challenge coin. On
- 16:53Speaker 2: the front, I mean, this thing is heavy. Pitar grabbed
- 16:56Speaker 2: it and said, oh my gosh, that thing is real.
- 16:59Speaker 2: Here's the White House. Here's the eagle, the crest of
- 17:02Speaker 2: the President. And it says, Seal of the President of
- 17:06Speaker 2: the United States. And then on the back, it's his
- 17:09Speaker 2: family crest. And it says, President of the United States,
- 17:13Speaker 2: 45th and 47th. Can you imagine what this guy has
- 17:17Speaker 2: done in his life? He's the most amazing human being ever.
- 17:19Speaker 2: When I wrote this book, I think people laughed at
- 17:21Speaker 2: me because Trump had just lost the presidency and we
- 17:24Speaker 2: had January 6th and they were calling him a traitor
- 17:27Speaker 2: and his career was done and his brand was done
- 17:29Speaker 2: according to liberals in the media. And I wrote Trump
- 17:31Speaker 2: rules and people thought I was insane. By the way,
- 17:35Speaker 2: this book is coming out in Indonesia on November 5th.
- 17:37Speaker 2: In Indonesia, the fourth biggest country in the world. It's
- 17:40Speaker 2: coming out in their language November 5th. So very exciting stuff.
- 17:46Speaker 2: Biggest publisher in Indonesia. They think it's going to be
- 17:48Speaker 2: a bestseller in their country. So pretty cool. But the
- 17:52Speaker 2: reality is nobody ever believed he'd be back as president
- 17:56Speaker 2: of the United States except Wayne Allyn Root. I said
- 17:58Speaker 2: it in column after column that he would be back
- 18:00Speaker 2: as president of the United States. Let me put this
- 18:03Speaker 2: somewhere for safekeeping. Let me make sure nothing happens to it.
- 18:06Speaker 2: You take it, put it over there somewhere. Pichard just
- 18:08Speaker 2: put it in his pocket and he's going home with it.
- 18:10Speaker 2: That's the end of it. But I wanted to be
- 18:13Speaker 2: reminded and I'll remind myself to tell you what Trump
- 18:15Speaker 2: said when it was time to go. Right. There's a
- 18:18Speaker 2: point where you talk and you talk and you talk.
- 18:20Speaker 2: And I brought up quite a few different topics. And
- 18:23Speaker 2: then Trump said, listen, I got to go. You got
- 18:25Speaker 2: to go. He didn't say it in a bad way.
- 18:27Speaker 2: He said it kind of a funny way. He's like,
- 18:28Speaker 2: you got to get out of here. It's time to leave.
- 18:30Speaker 2: because I gotta go deal with a war. And I
- 18:34Speaker 2: didn't even ask, because I don't think I even wanted
- 18:36Speaker 2: to know, which war was he dealing with? Did he
- 18:39Speaker 2: mean Gaza and Israel? Did he mean Hamas? Or did
- 18:44Speaker 2: he mean Ukraine and Putin and Zelensky? Or did he
- 18:49Speaker 2: mean the government shutdown? Because that's a battle of all time, right?
- 18:55Speaker 2: Or did he mean Portland or Chicago? There's a lot
- 18:59Speaker 2: of wars going on. We're at war with ICE and
- 19:03Speaker 2: Antifa against each other, loggerheads in Portland and Oregon. This
- 19:08Speaker 2: country is fraying at the edges. Liberals and Antifa and
- 19:13Speaker 2: communist organizations, many of them funded by George Soros. They're
- 19:17Speaker 2: out to destroy this country and divide this country and
- 19:19Speaker 2: break this country up. So which war was Trump talking about?
- 19:23Speaker 2: I don't know. But it lets you know what's on
- 19:26Speaker 2: this guy's shoulders. on a daily basis. Unbelievable. And by
- 19:31Speaker 2: the way, give me that coin, put it here, because
- 19:33Speaker 2: I'm going to be on Newsmax tonight, and I'd like
- 19:34Speaker 2: to hold it up on Newsmax now that I think
- 19:36Speaker 2: about it. All right, I wanted to mention this. Actor
- 19:38Speaker 2: Richard Gere believes Trump has almost destroyed the country in
- 19:42Speaker 2: only six months. And I tweeted out, Richard Gere should
- 19:46Speaker 2: stick to what he knows best, gerbils. Ha ha ha ha!
- 19:50Speaker 2: Hopefully all of you know what I'm talking about. If
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- 24:52Speaker 2: Pastor Lucas Miles, Senior Director of Turning Point USA Faith,
- 24:56Speaker 2: author of the new book, Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising.
- 25:02Speaker 2: Pastor Lucas Miles is here to talk to us about
- 25:05Speaker 2: many things, but we want to start with Israel and
- 25:07Speaker 2: the two-year anniversary. Lucas, how are you?
- 25:10Speaker 3: Hey, I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on.
- 25:12Speaker 2: It just so happens, Lucas, that I am Jewish by birth,
- 25:15Speaker 2: and I guess you can't ever change that, so I
- 25:17Speaker 2: guess you would say I'm Jewish. But I took Jesus
- 25:19Speaker 2: Christ as my Savior 34 years ago, so I'm a
- 25:22Speaker 2: Messianic Jew, and I'm on Newsmax TV tonight talking about
- 25:27Speaker 2: what I think is some bad things happening with Christian conservatives.
- 25:32Speaker 2: like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. I think it's disgraceful.
- 25:36Speaker 2: I think it's disgusting. I think they're trying to divide
- 25:38Speaker 2: the nation and divide the Republican Party. I think there's
- 25:41Speaker 2: one thing that's true in this country. We've always been
- 25:43Speaker 2: a Judeo-Christian nation, and we live by Judeo-Christian values. And
- 25:47Speaker 2: Republicans have always loved Israel and been nice to Jews
- 25:50Speaker 2: and love Jews. And Democrats in the last 10 years
- 25:54Speaker 2: have been so anti-Jew and anti-Israel that And I think
- 25:57Speaker 2: we're making a lot of progress and a lot of
- 25:58Speaker 2: Jews that I know are changing from Democrat to Republican,
- 26:01Speaker 2: including my favorite lawyer. Why am I forgetting his name?
- 26:05Speaker 2: Who's my favorite lawyer? The best lawyer in America, Alan Dershowitz,
- 26:10Speaker 2: just became a Republican and said he's going to fight
- 26:12Speaker 2: for Republicans in the midterm. This is the last thing
- 26:15Speaker 2: we need in our party and our movement. So now
- 26:17Speaker 2: suddenly Republicans saying terrible things about Jews in Israel. Big mistake.
- 26:21Speaker 2: So I was just going to get I was going
- 26:23Speaker 2: to open by saying I'm on Newsmax to talk about that.
- 26:26Speaker 2: What's your take on this? This new split in the
- 26:29Speaker 2: in the conservative Republican MAGA ranks with the tuckers of
- 26:32Speaker 2: the world and the canisters suddenly being so anti Israel
- 26:36Speaker 2: and sounding like they're anti Semites sounding like I'm not
- 26:39Speaker 2: sure whether they are or not, but they sound like it.
- 26:42Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that when we approach this issue,
- 26:45Speaker 3: it's really important to recognize that this is not just
- 26:49Speaker 3: a binary choice. So many times we're just made to
- 26:51Speaker 3: feel that you either have to be here or here,
- 26:53Speaker 3: and it creates this great polarization and all this conflict
- 26:56Speaker 3: and all this fighting. I certainly don't think that Tucker
- 26:59Speaker 3: and Candace are the same, and I'll leave that at that.
- 27:03Speaker 3: But I will say that when you look at this
- 27:08Speaker 3: issue biblically, which is where my real concern as a
- 27:11Speaker 3: pastor and as a somebody that works with churches across
- 27:14Speaker 3: this country, theologically, regardless if you hold to some sort
- 27:20Speaker 3: of radical dispensationalism or even something, you know, say like
- 27:24Speaker 3: replacement theology, you can't get away from that the finality
- 27:30Speaker 3: of human history takes place in the promised land. That
- 27:34Speaker 3: Israel is the central component of that. And so, you know, look,
- 27:37Speaker 3: there's room for some different theological conversation. I think Charlie Kirk,
- 27:41Speaker 3: you know, my boss and dear friend, I miss him
- 27:43Speaker 3: so much, was so good at this of allowing room
- 27:47Speaker 3: for some conversation, but also still coming back to support
- 27:51Speaker 3: for Israel, support that.
- 27:53Speaker 2: This is preventing radical Islam from.
- 27:55Speaker 3: Taking over in the Middle East. And it's preventing, you know,
- 27:58Speaker 3: really globalism. They're still they're standing as a free, you know,
- 28:01Speaker 3: sovereign nation there. And we have to we have to
- 28:04Speaker 3: stand with them as our ally, not only theologically, but
- 28:06Speaker 3: I think geopolitically as well.
- 28:08Speaker 2: Right. No, I agree with you 100 percent. And you
- 28:11Speaker 2: absolutely in America, we allow free speech and you can
- 28:13Speaker 2: have arguments about it. And I don't mind arguments, but
- 28:15Speaker 2: I just think, you know, Candace has gone off the
- 28:18Speaker 2: off the deep end, completely off the deep end. Charlie
- 28:21Speaker 2: Kirk was was wonderful. And he was on my TV network,
- 28:23Speaker 2: Real America's Voice TV. I've got my show there. I'm
- 28:26Speaker 2: one of the stars of the network. Steve Bannon's one
- 28:27Speaker 2: of the stars. Charlie Kirk was the star. Charlie's the greatest.
- 28:31Speaker 2: And I'm just so what happened to him has hurt
- 28:34Speaker 2: my heart, hurt my mind, hurt my entire being. I mean,
- 28:37Speaker 2: it's just so painful. So that's why I wanted to
- 28:40Speaker 2: get you on, because I have such respect for Charlie's organization,
- 28:44Speaker 2: Turning Point.
- 28:45Speaker 3: And Charlie, I'll say about that. I think that there's
- 28:48Speaker 3: so many distractions out there right now.
- 28:50Speaker 2: Right.
- 28:50Speaker 3: And what I want to do and I think what
- 28:52Speaker 3: we want to do at Turning Point USA is we
- 28:53Speaker 3: want to say let's make the main thing the main thing.
- 28:55Speaker 3: Let's fulfill Charlie's mission. And I think it's been very easy. Look,
- 28:59Speaker 3: I'm not an investigator. I'm not I'm not even a
- 29:02Speaker 3: foreign policy expert. What I am is somebody who is
- 29:04Speaker 3: completely independent. resolved and dedicated to seeing Charlie's mission fulfilled,
- 29:09Speaker 3: specifically in the world of getting Christians activated and united
- 29:14Speaker 3: to stand against wokeism, to stand against radical Islam, to
- 29:17Speaker 3: stand against this indoctrination of our children. Charlie lived for this.
- 29:21Speaker 3: Charlie gave his life for this. And we're going to
- 29:23Speaker 3: stay focused on that.
- 29:25Speaker 2: Good. And by the way, there's room for debate. But
- 29:27Speaker 2: I mean, I just think it's silly. I When you
- 29:31Speaker 2: think of all the problems with Islam and radical Islam
- 29:34Speaker 2: in the world and how they're taking over Europe and
- 29:36Speaker 2: how they're coming to America and we've got terrorists in
- 29:38Speaker 2: our country that are Islamic. terrorists that want to kill
- 29:41Speaker 2: Jews and Christians. I think the last thing you need
- 29:44Speaker 2: to debate about is Jews. Jews are good people. I
- 29:47Speaker 2: wouldn't be debating about that. I'd be more worried about
- 29:49Speaker 2: what Islam is going to do to Europe and America,
- 29:52Speaker 2: radical Islam anyway, than worried about. I just think it's distracting.
- 29:56Speaker 2: It's distracting.
- 29:57Speaker 3: That's such a great point, because, look, people will criticize
- 30:00Speaker 3: Christian nationalists or they'll criticize Zionists. But I don't hear
- 30:03Speaker 3: anybody talking about Islamist nationalist.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Right.
- 30:06Speaker 1: I mean, right.
- 30:07Speaker 3: Those individuals, I think when they get that radicalized, they're
- 30:10Speaker 3: not interested. They want to wipe everybody else off the map.
- 30:12Speaker 3: And so, you know, I don't see Christian nationalists wanting
- 30:15Speaker 3: to wipe everybody off the map. I don't see Zionists
- 30:17Speaker 3: wanting to wipe everybody off of the map. But we
- 30:20Speaker 3: have a real problem and it's radical Islam. Again, not
- 30:23Speaker 3: every Muslim is the problem. I want to be clear
- 30:25Speaker 3: on that. But radical Islam as an ideology is a
- 30:28Speaker 3: destructive force that is either bent on either immigrating into
- 30:34Speaker 3: nations in order to supplant the population there and take
- 30:37Speaker 3: it over or to use force to do so when
- 30:39Speaker 3: they're not, you know, when they have the power to
- 30:41Speaker 3: be able to make that happen. It's a real issue.
- 30:43Speaker 3: This was on Charlie's radar. I think it's got to
- 30:45Speaker 3: be on all of our radars.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Yeah, and all over Europe you have no-go zones. Those
- 30:48Speaker 2: are not Jewish neighborhoods. Those are radical Islamic-filled neighborhoods where
- 30:53Speaker 2: if you and I were to walk in that neighborhood,
- 30:54Speaker 2: they would kill us or rob us or chase us
- 30:57Speaker 2: out with baseball bats to the point we'd think our
- 31:00Speaker 2: life was in danger. No Christian has ever had to
- 31:02Speaker 2: fear walking into a Jewish neighborhood. that they're going to
- 31:05Speaker 2: be killed. So that's a problem. I don't think Jews
- 31:08Speaker 2: are to be debated as a problem or not in America.
- 31:10Speaker 2: I just think that's a mistake. But they're certainly too liberal.
- 31:13Speaker 2: That I'll agree with. They're too liberal. My fellow Jews
- 31:16Speaker 2: are way too liberal. But there's a lot of conservatives now,
- 31:19Speaker 2: and I think a lot of them are coming over.
- 31:20Speaker 2: So why even get in this debate? Let's talk about
- 31:23Speaker 2: the two year anniversary of October 7th. Obviously, a terrible thing.
- 31:27Speaker 2: We can all agree on that. But do you see
- 31:29Speaker 2: a peace deal forming? I mean, I was just with
- 31:31Speaker 2: the president yesterday. I had my first ever Oval Office
- 31:33Speaker 2: meeting with President Trump yesterday. It was a great honor
- 31:37Speaker 2: just to walk in the White House and walk in
- 31:38Speaker 2: the Oval Office. That man is is just an amazing
- 31:41Speaker 2: human being. We'll never get another one like him. And
- 31:43Speaker 2: I think we have hope for a peace potentially because
- 31:47Speaker 2: of him. I just don't know if you could ever
- 31:49Speaker 2: negotiate with terrorists and they keep their word.
- 31:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's the big concern is the keeping
- 31:53Speaker 3: of the word.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Right.
- 31:54Speaker 3: So I think it's possible for us to see a
- 31:56Speaker 3: deal happen. But whether or not that deal is enforced
- 31:59Speaker 3: or that it is on their side or actually acted upon,
- 32:03Speaker 3: I have a real hard time seeing Hamas be able
- 32:05Speaker 3: to keep their end of the bargain.
- 32:07Speaker 1: Right.
- 32:07Speaker 2: And listen, their history is radical Islam's history is say yes, placate.
- 32:14Speaker 2: regroup and then kill Jews again or kill Christians again.
- 32:18Speaker 2: That's their history. Look what's happening in several.
- 32:21Speaker 3: African nations where they're killing Christians. We have the right
- 32:24Speaker 3: person in office right now in our nation to be
- 32:26Speaker 3: able to hold people accountable. And I think that that's
- 32:28Speaker 3: what we have going for us that we haven't had
- 32:30Speaker 3: during past administrations. And so if there's anybody who can
- 32:32Speaker 3: get this done, I think it's President Trump. Obviously, there's
- 32:35Speaker 3: a lot of theological and biblical questions that we could
- 32:37Speaker 3: talk about. But, you know, we've got to keep our
- 32:39Speaker 3: eyes on the main thing right now.
- 32:40Speaker 2: All right. You're my kind of guy. You're the right
- 32:42Speaker 2: kind of pastor. Let me tell you. I agree with
- 32:44Speaker 2: every word you say. Pastor Lucas Miles. Now, this is
- 32:47Speaker 2: normally where we say goodbye to our guests. I'd love
- 32:49Speaker 2: to grab you for one more segment. I enjoy talking
- 32:51Speaker 2: to you. And let's talk about your book when we
- 32:53Speaker 2: get back, Pagan Threat. And we'll talk a little bit
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- 32:58Speaker 2: your guy. And I couldn't even believe my eyes. It
- 33:01Speaker 2: was one of the most horrible things I've ever seen.
- 33:03Speaker 2: and the aftermath of people celebrating his death, the most
- 33:07Speaker 2: disgusting thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Let's
- 33:10Speaker 2: talk about that all with Pastor Lucas Miles, Senior Director
- 33:13Speaker 2: of Turning Point USA Faith. What a great organization. Author
- 33:17Speaker 2: of the new book, Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising.
- 33:20Speaker 2: We'll be right back with Pastor Lucas Miles. I'm Wayne
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- 38:43Speaker 2: President Trump. All right, perfect guy to pray for President Trump.
- 38:46Speaker 2: Pastor Lucas Miles is with us, Senior Director of Turning
- 38:49Speaker 2: Point USA, Turning Point USA Faith, excuse me, Faith, author
- 38:55Speaker 2: of the new book, Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless Uprising.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Pastor Lucas Miles, welcome back.
- 39:01Speaker 1: To the show.
- 39:02Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me back.
- 39:04Speaker 2: All right, so in the aftermath of Charlie's Kirk assassination,
- 39:08Speaker 2: what are you seeing and feeling? What did you take
- 39:10Speaker 2: away from the horror of what we just witnessed?
- 39:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously everything that we're seeing right now
- 39:16Speaker 3: is filtered through the lenses of grief. I think that
- 39:19Speaker 3: that goes without saying. But I think that Charlie would
- 39:22Speaker 3: be so excited to see what is taking place on
- 39:25Speaker 3: the other side of this. My own church doubled in size,
- 39:28Speaker 3: literally overnight, and we've maintained that growth for four weeks
- 39:33Speaker 3: and growing. We had to add another service to even
- 39:35Speaker 3: accommodate the people that were there. Now, we also put
- 39:38Speaker 3: a 45-foot banner of Charlie Kirk on the outside of
- 39:41Speaker 3: our building because we wanted to make it very clear
- 39:42Speaker 3: where we stood. And look, Charlie was a martyr. He
- 39:46Speaker 3: gave his life, but what church history tells us, the
- 39:50Speaker 3: church father Tertullian said that the death of the martyr
- 39:52Speaker 3: is the seat of the church. And Charlie, you know,
- 39:55Speaker 3: was planted in the ground. but his life is multiplying,
- 39:59Speaker 3: and we're seeing a million Charlie Kirks rise up right now,
- 40:01Speaker 3: people who are coming back to the faith. I asked
- 40:03Speaker 3: people on Sunday morning, I said, how many of you
- 40:05Speaker 3: guys bought a Bible for the first time after Charlie's assassination?
- 40:08Speaker 3: I had multiple people raise their hand. How many people
- 40:10Speaker 3: came back to church for the first time since all
- 40:12Speaker 3: of this happening? Multiple people raising their hand. Church growth
- 40:15Speaker 3: is up 15% across the country, but what that probably
- 40:18Speaker 3: means is that mainline churches might be up 2% or 3%,
- 40:21Speaker 3: but churches that are really standing bold right now, they're
- 40:24Speaker 3: seeing you know, 30, 40, 50% growth.
- 40:27Speaker 2: And Republican registrations are up the same kind of numbers,
- 40:31Speaker 2: which is important because they really do, in my opinion,
- 40:33Speaker 2: I'm not a man of God like you, but they
- 40:35Speaker 2: go hand in hand.
- 40:36Speaker 3: We'll get you there.
- 40:37Speaker 2: They go hand, well, I am, but I mean, I
- 40:39Speaker 2: meant I'm not a pastor. I meant I'm not a pastor.
- 40:41Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in Jesus Christ. But I'm not
- 40:43Speaker 2: a pastor. And I just think that they go hand
- 40:47Speaker 2: in hand. You can't be a Christian and vote for
- 40:50Speaker 2: this evil party that believes in abortion and celebrating the
- 40:54Speaker 2: death of a great man like Charlie, a father of
- 40:57Speaker 2: two young children, a husband. And they're cheering. You know,
- 41:00Speaker 2: here's what I took away from it, Lucas. I don't
- 41:03Speaker 2: like Democrats. I really don't. I do think they're evil.
- 41:05Speaker 2: I do think they're demonic at this point. I think
- 41:07Speaker 2: there's like Satan involved. The things they believe in is
- 41:10Speaker 2: so sickening at times. It's shocking. You can't believe what
- 41:13Speaker 2: they believe in. But I would still never root for
- 41:17Speaker 2: their death ever, not publicly or privately, but certainly not publicly.
- 41:21Speaker 2: I don't root for their death. I don't root for
- 41:24Speaker 2: their illness. I don't root for an assassination. And they
- 41:27Speaker 2: do root for our death. That's the difference in the
- 41:30Speaker 2: two groups of people. I don't know any Republican that
- 41:32Speaker 2: likes Obama, but none of us want him to die tomorrow.
- 41:36Speaker 2: That's a big difference.
- 41:38Speaker 3: Look, I think that there was probably no, you know,
- 41:42Speaker 3: better commercial for conservatives than seeing the celebration of people
- 41:49Speaker 3: online when Charlie was killed. This just proved him right. Look,
- 41:54Speaker 3: the other side's been trying to prove Charlie Kirk wrong
- 41:57Speaker 3: for a long time. They weren't able to do it.
- 41:58Speaker 3: They had to put a bullet in his neck to
- 42:00Speaker 3: get him to stop talking. But what they didn't realize
- 42:03Speaker 3: is that he's going to keep talking. He's one of
- 42:05Speaker 3: the most known people in world history. We've got hours
- 42:08Speaker 3: and hours of content that's going to be coming out
- 42:10Speaker 3: for decades to come. Charlie Kirk, though, his voice went
- 42:14Speaker 3: around this world. And it's amplified. And I think that
- 42:17Speaker 3: he said all the things that all of us wanted
- 42:19Speaker 3: to say. But he was smarter than us. He was
- 42:21Speaker 3: the best of us. And he's inspired millions literally through
- 42:24Speaker 3: his life and through his death.
- 42:26Speaker 2: All right. Look, I wanted to get into your book,
- 42:29Speaker 2: but we don't even have time. The music's on. We're
- 42:31Speaker 2: running out. So here's what I'd like to do. I'll
- 42:33Speaker 2: have Andrew Paul, my executive producer and booker, book you
- 42:36Speaker 2: to come back in the next few days. And we'll
- 42:38Speaker 2: just go over your book. And we'll just do your book, okay?
- 42:41Speaker 2: So we'll get it in. Pagan Threat, Confronting America's Godless
- 42:48Speaker 2: Uprising by Pastor Lucas Miles, Senior Director of Turning Point
- 42:52Speaker 2: USA Faith. Again, go get a copy of the book.
- 42:55Speaker 2: You can tell from this interview what a wonderful man
- 42:56Speaker 2: he is and what a brilliant man he is. Pagan Threat,
- 42:59Speaker 2: Confronting America's Godless Uprising. And Andrew will book you to
- 43:02Speaker 2: come back just to talk about the book in the
- 43:04Speaker 2: next few days. I want you back already. We'll see
- 43:07Speaker 2: you in a little while. We'll see you in a
- 43:08Speaker 2: few days. Thank you. We'll be right back. Hour number two. Hi,
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