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Speaker 1: Today on Steelers Country Weekly, we break down the steelers
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Speaker 1: big win in Cincinnati over the Bengals, look ahead to
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Speaker 1: their matchup back home in Pittsburgh against the Brown and
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Speaker 1: talk about our favorite things from the eighties. And we'll
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Speaker 1: tell you why we're gonna talk about the eighties when
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Speaker 1: we get there. But for now, I'm Nick Detulio and
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Speaker 1: as always I'm joined by the world famous accountants Eric
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Speaker 1: Damon Showden Eric, how's it going tonight?
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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. I'm in the basement of my house.
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Speaker 3: Watching our home the latter lose their first game in basketball. Well,
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Speaker 3: you know, we can't always be winners, so let's take
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Speaker 3: my football team being a winner on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does stink it for the city of Cincinnati
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Speaker 1: having the Bearricats probably lose this basketball game and then
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Speaker 1: the Bengals season was almost killed on Sunday. But but yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right. For you and me, we
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Speaker 1: got the big win on Sunday and it was a
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Speaker 1: big win. So if the Bearcats have to take a
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Speaker 1: loss today, I'm willing to live with that. If you are,
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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Yeah, let's get right into it and
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Speaker 1: talk about this game. This was such an interesting game,
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Speaker 1: and going into it, I remember talking about it and
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Speaker 1: talking with you before the game and as well during
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Speaker 1: the game. I was not confident that the Pittsburgh Steelers,
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Speaker 1: our Pittsburgh Steelers with this offense that we've known for years,
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Speaker 1: was gonna win a shootout, let alone a shootout with
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals and Joe Burrow. But that's exactly what
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Speaker 1: happened here. Final score ended up being forty four to
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Speaker 1: thirty eight. Bengals get the ball first. Steelers are able
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Speaker 1: to force a three and out on the ensuing possession,
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Speaker 1: though Russ Wilson throws a pick six on a very
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Speaker 1: questionable non call of illegal contact from the refs on
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Speaker 1: the Bengals defense. Basically what happened was before the ball
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Speaker 1: was thrown, the cornerback grabbed Pickens by the helmet, threw
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Speaker 1: him on the ground, and because it was a slant
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Speaker 1: route that Russ, it was planned for us to throw
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Speaker 1: it to Pickens right away. Basically he ended up just
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Speaker 1: throwing it right to an open cornerback with George Pickens
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Speaker 1: on the drown ground, who ran it back for a touchdown.
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Speaker 1: So we spotted the Bengal seven points and from there
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Speaker 1: it was off to the races. The Steelers marched up
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Speaker 1: and down the field after that pick, Russell Wilson was
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Speaker 1: near perfect. He went twenty nine to thirty eight for
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Speaker 1: over four hundred yards four hundred and fourteen yards with
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Speaker 1: three touchdowns, and frankly, they lit up the scoreboard again
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Speaker 1: final score forty four to thirty eight. We saw a
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Speaker 1: Boswell blocked field goal, which was something we don't see
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Speaker 1: very often, and frankly, even though the defense looked kind
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Speaker 1: of rough at times, again letting the Bengals march down
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Speaker 1: the field. A good offense but still a little unsettling
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Speaker 1: at times. They came up big when they needed to
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Speaker 1: enforce turnovers that led to scores. In one case they
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Speaker 1: led to a score on the defense scooping and scoring.
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Speaker 1: So overall, I think when you take that all into effect,
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Speaker 1: this was a pretty solid performance by the team. So
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Speaker 1: I'll ask you, Eric, what were some of your big
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Speaker 1: takeaways from this matchup?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was genuinely surprised that we want to face against.
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Speaker 2: Them, and.
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Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure, but this has to be like
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Speaker 3: the most points that has been scored in a Steelers
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Speaker 3: game and probably feels like maybe the triple b's yes, But.
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Speaker 2: You know, I think that.
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Speaker 3: I want to disappointed with like how the you know,
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Speaker 3: the defense played. I mean I know that, Like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I don't mean to sound like a broken record off
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Speaker 3: bid quarterback the four hundred yards, we scored forty four
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Speaker 3: points and I'm going negative right away, but you know,
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Speaker 3: this was a good offense that we played. But I'm
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Speaker 3: a little nervous that our number one quarterback had quite
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Speaker 3: possibly like the worst game of his career.
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Speaker 2: Joey Porter looked awful. I think he was guarding pretty much.
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Speaker 3: T Higgins the whole game, and higgins stat line looked modest,
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Speaker 3: five for.
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Speaker 2: Sixty one or sixty nine and a touchdown, But when.
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Speaker 3: You factor in all the pass interference calls and holding
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Speaker 3: calls that he had, he was probably responsible for one
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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five yards in the day. So and
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Speaker 3: I think two of them were actually in the end zone,
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Speaker 3: which lined up the Bengals to go onto the one
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Speaker 3: yard line. So you could probably attribute honestly three touchdown
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Speaker 3: against Joey Porter on the day. So not to go negative.
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Speaker 3: I didn't have to kind of point that out because
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Speaker 3: for me, that was my biggest takeaway was why is
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Speaker 3: our best cornerback who I thought to be.
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Speaker 2: Our best cornerback.
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Speaker 3: I would have benched him, to be honest, if I
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Speaker 3: were tom Win, I'd say, today about your day, sit
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Speaker 3: it out, we'll get you. We'll get you next week
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Speaker 3: he left affl. I wouldn't bench him, you know, going forward,
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Speaker 3: but something to warrant watching going forward. And other than that,
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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we we needed We did.
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Speaker 2: What we needed to do.
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Speaker 3: You did text me at one point, why can't we
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Speaker 3: close this out? It did kind of seem like there
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Speaker 3: was a little bit of creepy involved with it. We
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Speaker 3: could just never put him away. But that being said,
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Speaker 3: feel comfortable about the game the whole, like we were
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Speaker 3: gonna win. I never really felt uncomfortable, and so, you know,
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Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, that's all
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Speaker 3: I could ask for outside.
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Speaker 2: Of the win.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Joey Porter. And it was
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Speaker 1: interesting that when they asked Mike Tomlin about it, he was,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was nonchalant about it.
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Speaker 1: But the response that I or the vibes that I
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Speaker 1: got from that was, Hey, it's a physical game, and
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Speaker 1: you just hope that you know you don't get called
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Speaker 1: every time for that, so he was a little more
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Speaker 1: laid back about it than you were. But I see
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Speaker 1: I personally felt a little closer to.
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Speaker 2: Where you were.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't necessarily gonna pull him, or wouldn't want to
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Speaker 1: pull him, but I totally understand it. We've seen that
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Speaker 1: all year two. That's kind of the risk reward you
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Speaker 1: get with Joey Porter. He's very aggressive, very physical, but
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get those calls sometimes at the worst possible moment.
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Speaker 1: And in this game, I think you gave the stat line,
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Speaker 1: but I want to say it was maybe four. He
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Speaker 1: had four big penalties, whether it was past interference or holding,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes they just came at the worst possible moment.
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Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball, we'd be remiss
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Speaker 1: if we didn't talk about the George Pickens penalties because
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Speaker 1: he seems to have a huge risk reward, albeit a
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Speaker 1: little different circumstances. He opened up the game with that
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Speaker 1: play I can't remember the Bengals defender name Cameron britt
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Speaker 1: something where he basically got thrown to the ground by
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Speaker 1: the head and there was no call. It probably should
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Speaker 1: have been a call, but Pickens has probably gotten to
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Speaker 1: that point, and I don't know if you agree with
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Speaker 1: this or not, where he's really not going to get
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Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt on a lot of those
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Speaker 1: because his reputation precedes him a little bit like Vontez perfect.
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Speaker 1: Although I don't think Pickens is a dirty player. I
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Speaker 1: think it's the stuff he does after the play is over,
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Speaker 1: where he runs his mouth and taunts, that is what
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Speaker 1: gets him into trouble. But he also had two unsportsmen
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Speaker 1: on sportsmanlike conduct penalties, and for a moment there I
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Speaker 1: thought he was going to get ejected, and I think
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Speaker 1: everyone else did too, and someone will have to explain
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Speaker 1: the rule to me again. I guess the type of
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Speaker 1: unsportsmanlike penalty he got in the second half, which had
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Speaker 1: them on the thirteen yard line before they had to
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Speaker 1: get pushed back fifteen yards and then had the field
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Speaker 1: goal blocked, I guess wasn't the kind that qualifies for
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Speaker 1: a disqualification. So anyway, I wanted to mention him too.
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Speaker 1: Since you mentioned Joey Porter costing the team in big situations,
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Speaker 1: Pickens did that as well, and if the offense hadn't
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Speaker 1: put up their best game of the year, there's in
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Speaker 1: any other game that very well could have cost them
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Speaker 1: the game, and frankly it almost did here. They won
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Speaker 1: by one touchdown six points, so the Bengals certainly could
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Speaker 1: have had the opportunity to get that back and take
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Speaker 1: the lead. So it seems like just yet another week,
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Speaker 1: yet another instance where George Pickens is causing some problems
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Speaker 1: while at the same time being the main source of
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Speaker 1: production for the offense outside of the quarterback. So kind
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Speaker 1: of a mixed bag. Tomlin was a little more firm
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Speaker 1: in his response on Pickens than he was on Joey
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Speaker 1: Porter Jr. He basically just said he's got to grow up,
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Speaker 1: and he's not wrong. Maybe this is too simplistic for
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Speaker 1: you and me because we're on the sidelines and we're
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Speaker 1: not certainly not George Pickens. But if it were me,
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Speaker 1: the first time that I get an unsportsman like conduct penalty,
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Speaker 1: I'm just keep in mind, mouth shut and putting my
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Speaker 1: head down and playing the rest of the game. That again,
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Speaker 1: that's me. Maybe there's something I'm not understanding, but something's
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Speaker 1: got to give here.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, these guys are fighters, ferocious competitors, so
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Speaker 3: there's probably a little bit to it. But he does
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Speaker 3: need to keep his demeanor and as much as he
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Speaker 3: is sometimes a liability, he is a huge asset. I mean,
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Speaker 3: but playing along the sidelines where basically kind of like
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Speaker 3: after he got past the defender walked in.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he made it look everythless.
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Speaker 3: So that's why he's out there, that's why he's playing,
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Speaker 3: and that's why we kind of put up with it.
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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the Pittsburgh Steelers without a wide receiver.
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Speaker 1: That's the head case, right, Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, again,
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Speaker 1: the Steelers get to win forty four to thirty eight.
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Speaker 1: They rebound after their loss last week to Cleveland. Was
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Speaker 1: there anything else you wanted to mention about this game?
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Speaker 1: All right? Well, as I said at the top of
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Speaker 1: the show, the Steelers have this unique schedule where they're
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Speaker 1: going to play the Cleveland Browns again for the second
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Speaker 1: time in three weeks. All their division games are from
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Speaker 1: Week nine onwards, So we're going to see a bunch
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Speaker 1: at the halfway point right now with our division games.
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Speaker 1: This time it's at home, and frankly, I haven't looked
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Speaker 1: at the weather yet, but I'd have to guess that
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Speaker 1: it won't be as bad of a snow storm, if
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Speaker 1: any snowstorm compared to what they had a few weeks
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Speaker 1: ago in Cleveland. The Browns are coming off of a
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Speaker 1: pretty close Monday night football loss in Denver, so they'll
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Speaker 1: be on a slightly shorter week as they roll into
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for this. And we know that the Browns season,
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Speaker 1: they're not mathematically eliminated, although I do believe if the
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Speaker 1: Steelers win, they will be officially eliminated for playoff contention
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Speaker 1: moving forward, so they do still have something to play
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Speaker 1: for in addition to just being a division game, beating
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Speaker 1: the Steelers and all that good stuff. So looking ahead
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Speaker 1: to this game, Eric, what are some of your keys
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Speaker 1: for the Steelers to walk away with a win?
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Speaker 3: I mean, they almost won last time, and they played
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Speaker 3: the worst game of the whole entire year, So.
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Speaker 2: How do they win this game?
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Speaker 3: Reducing the bonehead of mistakes that we saw in every
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Speaker 3: facet of the game last time. Everyone need to rehash
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Speaker 3: what we did last time, egregiously aggressive coaching decisions. We
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Speaker 3: don't need to go for fourth down three separate times
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Speaker 3: when the offense isn't clicking. You know, if you put
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Speaker 3: up forty four in a game, sure if you end
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Speaker 3: up with nineteen.
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Speaker 2: Points in the game, probably not, you know, I think that.
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Speaker 3: It's it's it's a weird one because I told my
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Speaker 3: co worker, as he's a Bengals fan, and we actually
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Speaker 3: made a little little bet. I said before the Bengals game,
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Speaker 3: I said, if the Steelers sweet, he pays for lunch skyline,
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Speaker 3: if the Bengals suite, I pay for lunch, and if
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Speaker 3: they they split it, then we pay for own meal.
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Speaker 3: But he said, you know, I gave him.
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Speaker 2: No line for that.
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, I was like, well, our
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Speaker 3: offense has scored thirty seven points combined over the last
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Speaker 3: two weeks, so I don't think you have to be
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Speaker 3: that worried about it. And then we came out for
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Speaker 3: forty four points. So I really don't know where to
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Speaker 3: point us out.
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Speaker 2: That's grand scheme of things. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Some weeks we look like we could be the eighty
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Speaker 3: five Bears with defense, and then we give up thirty
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Speaker 3: eight points. And sometimes we struggle against a mediocre Browns
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Speaker 3: team and can't put up twenty and look like the
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Speaker 3: Duck Hodges years. So just the key to this game,
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Speaker 3: don't screw up.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair, particularly with the coaching mistakes
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Speaker 1: that we saw in Cleveland. You mentioned the aggressiveness. I
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Speaker 1: know we talked about it. I mean again, like what
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Speaker 1: a week ago when we were talking about our recap,
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Speaker 1: because it was the game before last that they played
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Speaker 1: each other going for the fifty eight yard or in
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Speaker 1: the snow, the fifty eight yard field goal, the wrong
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Speaker 1: use of timeouts, things like that. So in addition to
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Speaker 1: correcting those mistakes, one thing I want to mention is
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Speaker 1: we need to flip the script on the defensive player
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Speaker 1: of the year debate and what performance we'll see on
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Speaker 1: the field from the two defensive player of the Year candidates.
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Speaker 1: Last game, the Brown's defensive end Miles Garrett, looked like
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Speaker 1: the defensive player of the year compared to our guy, TJ. Watt,
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Speaker 1: who was held in check pretty much all game. There
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Speaker 1: was a little bit of chirpiness before the game with TJ.
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Speaker 1: Watt and Miles Garrett not speaking directly to each other,
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Speaker 1: but speaking I guess through reporters talking about that. I
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Speaker 1: guess when Garrett won Defensive Player of the Year last year,
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Speaker 1: TJ had just tweeted, it's nothing I'm not used to.
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Speaker 1: Instead of just congratulating Garrett, which didn't sit well, and
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Speaker 1: so then a lot of focus was on that for
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Speaker 1: this Thursday night game, and again Garrett was the one
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Speaker 1: who stepped up, what was the one who is pretty
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Speaker 1: much held in check? So we're gonna need to see
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Speaker 1: in addition to the adjustments to the coaching, we'll have
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Speaker 1: to look at which defensive player is going to have
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Speaker 1: the bigger impact. If the Steelers can at least somewhat
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Speaker 1: slow down Garrett, I feel pretty comfortable with our chances.
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Speaker 1: On top of that, if we're able to slow him down,
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Speaker 1: and if TJ. Watt is able to step back up,
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Speaker 1: I think that would be ideal. It looks like high
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Speaker 1: Smith is going to come back as well this week,
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Speaker 1: so him and her big in the lineup with Watt
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Speaker 1: should help that. But frankly, I think the Browns have
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Speaker 1: been better since Jameis Winston has started at quarterback than
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Speaker 1: when they had Deshan Watson. So one of the few
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Speaker 1: times that that'll happen where you're backup does better, and
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Speaker 1: everyone kind of expected that, so and again they were
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Speaker 1: close with Denver too. It wasn't like Denver blue them
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Speaker 1: out or anything, so so yeah, I think that if
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Speaker 1: they can do the little things. They should be fine.
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Speaker 1: They should win. I don't really want to get my
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Speaker 1: hopes up, though, because it seems like every time I do,
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Speaker 1: we have a game like we did the last time
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Speaker 1: we played Cleveland, where we really come crashing back down
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Speaker 1: to Earth. And the last thing I wanted to point
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Speaker 1: out was we mentioned George Pickens at the end of
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Speaker 1: our Bengals breakdown. He did give them locker room material
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Speaker 1: after the game when he pretty much blamed the Snow
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Speaker 1: and said that they weren't a good team. Most locker
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Speaker 1: rooms are private, so I don't know if that's something
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Speaker 1: that they're going to actually put up on the bulletin board.
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Speaker 1: But it's twenty twenty four. I promise you everybody in
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Speaker 1: that locker room is aware that everyone in that locker
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Speaker 1: room knows that they're going to be eliminated if they
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Speaker 1: lose another game, but especially this next game, and they're
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Speaker 1: playing their number one rival, who they already beat once.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 1: They're going to come out swinging. I think so. While
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Speaker 1: I do think that the Steeler should win this game,
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Speaker 1: and I hope that they learned from the mistakes of
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Speaker 1: the last game and continue to build upon what happened
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Speaker 1: last week in Cincinnati. I just want us to exercise
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Speaker 1: caution because I don't think it's gonna be a cake
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Speaker 1: walk by any stretch of the imagination.
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Speaker 3: Yeah one, Then do you want to say what's at
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Speaker 3: steak with this game too?
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go ahead and say what's at
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Speaker 1: stake because I don't specifically know what steak you're talking about?
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Speaker 2: Our fun topic?
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Speaker 1: Oh, our fun topic. Good segue. Let's give our predictions first, though.
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Speaker 1: I'll give the Steelers a win, but I think it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be close. I don't think they're gonna put up
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Speaker 1: forty four points. Again, the Browns have a much better
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Speaker 1: defense than the Bengals. I'm gonna say twenty seven to
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Speaker 1: twenty one Steelers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good one.
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Speaker 3: I think we get back to our defensive roots.
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Speaker 2: I think that.
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Speaker 3: I think, as you mentioned, TJ will step back up.
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Speaker 3: I think he might feel like you got put back
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Speaker 3: on notice there. So I think we're gonna win twenty
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Speaker 3: point twelve.
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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go. We both have the Steelers in
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Speaker 1: the wind column, and I hope we are both right.
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Speaker 1: So what is at stake? I thought Eric was going
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Speaker 1: to talk about playoff seating implications eliminating the Browns. Could
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Speaker 1: the Steelers possibly get that first round by if they
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Speaker 1: right the ship and went out. No, we are, of
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Speaker 1: course talking about the last time the Browns swept the
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Speaker 1: Steelers in a season. According to my extensive research, which
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Speaker 1: included typing this question into Google, the last time the
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Speaker 1: Browns swept the Stee Wheelers in a season was nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty eight, thirty six years ago. Now, Eric and I
20:08
Speaker 1: weren't even born in nineteen eighty eight. He was nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety I was nineteen ninety one. So I feel that
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Speaker 1: we are extensive expert on the eighties decade. And Eric
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Speaker 1: had a pretty good suggestion for the fun topics, So
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Speaker 1: I'll let him take the lead here. Being that way
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Speaker 1: are such eighties experts, having not lived through it or
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Speaker 1: anything like that, Let's just talk about some of our
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Speaker 1: favorite things from the eighties. Take it away, Eric, why
20:33
Speaker 1: do you love the eighties?
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Speaker 2: You know what I really do about the eighties because okay,
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Speaker 2: well I have two things. I have two things.
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Speaker 1: You can have as many as you want, okay.
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Speaker 3: So my pop culture reason why I like it was
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Speaker 3: because I love Filkolmill Collins.
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Speaker 2: Music gets me going uh it. I mean, if you
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Speaker 2: don't like Phil Collins, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I can't trust you, Sue Studio, that's right.
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Speaker 3: And so I love Phil Collins music, and he seems
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Speaker 3: like he's like the only one that wasn't a one
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Speaker 3: hit wonder. But I do like the music of the eighties.
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Speaker 3: I feel like it was very upbeat, but it was
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Speaker 3: very his pop music goes. You know, maybe it wasn't
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Speaker 3: like the ad time classics and.
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Speaker 2: You think about them, but.
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Speaker 1: I do.
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Speaker 2: I love the little eighties mix going on there.
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Speaker 1: So what you said he was the only one that
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Speaker 1: wasn't a one hit wonder? What do you mean he
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Speaker 1: was the only what.
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Speaker 2: Like he?
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Speaker 3: You know, like there's a bunch of artists that, like,
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Speaker 3: you know, had a hit, one hit song and then
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Speaker 3: they just fall off the base start.
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Speaker 1: No, I know what a one hit wonder was. I
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Speaker 1: was wondering who you were comparing him to, just most
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Speaker 1: artists of the time or pop artists. Okay, well, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna have to take it. I mean, I'm gonna take you.
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Speaker 3: To task on there if they were so iconic and
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Speaker 3: I would remember to name them, but there's so many
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Speaker 3: of them.
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, But I'll take you to task on that,
22:21
Speaker 1: but I'll let you finish.
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Speaker 3: Your thoughts and then, uh, if you hadn't watched it,
22:29
Speaker 3: you should watch The Turning Point on Netflix. It's about
22:35
Speaker 3: the Cold War, and so reconnection to the eighties is
22:42
Speaker 3: the Cold War ended in the eighties. So what it was,
22:46
Speaker 3: probably outside of the human missile crisis, probably the the
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Speaker 3: more tantamountain point and the hostility of America versus Russia,
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Speaker 3: because at that point it was like, Hey, maybe Russia
23:07
Speaker 3: is actually I'm gonna use their vessels.
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Speaker 2: Because they have nothing left to use lose. They were
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Speaker 2: losing the standoff.
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Speaker 3: They were losing face, they were going to lose their
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Speaker 3: precious as a USSR.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, I.
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Speaker 3: Which huge nerd all that stuff, But that was one
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Speaker 3: of the best documentaries I've ever watched. You go out there,
23:37
Speaker 3: you got homework, feelers Nation, and you are a history
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Speaker 3: of major I'd be curious.
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Speaker 2: If you watched it.
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Speaker 1: I did not watch it, but I am very interested
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Speaker 1: in the end of the Cold War. I like the
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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan era, and of course his famous tear down
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Speaker 1: this Wall speech is one of my favorites too. You
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Speaker 1: said that documentary was called the turning.
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Speaker 2: Point, right, the turning point.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll look, I'll look for it and i'll watch
24:08
Speaker 1: that while i'm getting some work done or something that's good.
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Speaker 3: Another one one series about like the War on Terror.
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Speaker 2: It's not as good, you can skip it.
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Speaker 1: I'll probably watch that too. Like you said, I'm a
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Speaker 1: history buff.
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Speaker 2: So.
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Speaker 3: It's definitely lower your expectations.
24:29
Speaker 2: But it was fantastic.
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Speaker 1: So uh, I was vastly disappointed with your one hit
24:36
Speaker 1: wonder comment, but you did somewhat redeem yourself with your
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Speaker 1: discussion about the Cold War, and we can have history
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Speaker 1: discussions anytime you want. So you mentioned Phil Collins as
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Speaker 1: the only person who was not a one hit wonder
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Speaker 1: in the eighties. No, that's basically in.
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Speaker 2: A decade litter with one hit wonders.
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Speaker 1: He stands out, Okay, that that is not what you said.
25:03
Speaker 1: But I will point out we saw the rise of
25:07
Speaker 1: hair metal in the eighties, if you want to talk
25:09
Speaker 1: about that. We also saw the rise of metal in general.
25:11
Speaker 1: So growing up, I was a Metallica fan. Their debut
25:14
Speaker 1: album was nineteen eighty three with Kill Mall. Hopefully i'll
25:17
Speaker 1: get to see them again when they come down to Atlanta.
25:20
Speaker 1: Sometime next year, they're gonna play at the Falcons Arenas.
25:22
Speaker 1: That'd be cool. Motley Crue came up in the eighties.
25:27
Speaker 1: You had Van Halen that started in the seventies but
25:29
Speaker 1: really came into their own, or started in the seventies
25:32
Speaker 1: but came in their own into the eighties. A lot
25:34
Speaker 1: of people would consider them one of, if not the
25:37
Speaker 1: greatest American rock band to ever be formed. Motley Crue
25:42
Speaker 1: came up. You have Poison, You've got Guns and Roses
25:45
Speaker 1: coming out of the eighties. And then I'm not a
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Speaker 1: big pop fan myself, but I am aware of Phil Collin. Obviously,
25:53
Speaker 1: I like some of his songs. I know there are
25:55
Speaker 1: several other eighties stars out there. One that comes to
25:59
Speaker 1: mind media the big pop star icon Madonna. You have
26:04
Speaker 1: Cyndi Lauper, just two women right off the bat who
26:06
Speaker 1: are definitely not one hit Wonders, and I just of
26:17
Speaker 1: the car growing up there you go, so you're familiar.
26:22
Speaker 1: So I just have to point that out that we
26:26
Speaker 1: can love on Phil Collin all we want, but let's
26:30
Speaker 1: let's draw the line somewhere here. That's totally fine. My
26:37
Speaker 1: favorite band, Kiss was prevalent in the eighties, although not
26:42
Speaker 1: quite to the level of their seventies heyday, but they
26:44
Speaker 1: kept their career going. Some of my favorite songs from
26:46
Speaker 1: theirs are from the eighties, so that's something I guess.
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Speaker 2: You know.
26:54
Speaker 1: You mentioned the end of the Cold War that was interesting.
26:58
Speaker 1: I will say I mentioned I love the Ronald Reagan era,
27:02
Speaker 1: but I'm a presidential history buff, so I love learning
27:05
Speaker 1: about the presidents. Most of the movies I watch have
27:08
Speaker 1: a president in them or are a documentary about the president.
27:14
Speaker 1: So I actually just watched a hour and a half
27:17
Speaker 1: long documentary about the office of the Vice Presidency the
27:22
Speaker 1: other night, So that was interesting seeing the different vice
27:24
Speaker 1: presidents talk all the way back to Walter Mondale, who
27:28
Speaker 1: is Jimmy Carter's vice president, through Mike Pence, and seeing
27:32
Speaker 1: some of the presidents interviewed as well. So I say
27:36
Speaker 1: all that to say, with the end of the Cold War,
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Speaker 1: one president that I continue to be more and more
27:41
Speaker 1: interested in and have more respect for them. More and
27:44
Speaker 1: more I learned about was actually George H. W. Bush.
27:49
Speaker 1: When you look at his career, he started off as
27:52
Speaker 1: a very young mill Our Air Force pilot in the
27:57
Speaker 1: in World War Two. He was I think only eighteen
28:03
Speaker 1: he enlisted before he turned eighteen. He flew in Japan.
28:07
Speaker 1: He was shot down but got rescued. It's actually on
28:10
Speaker 1: videotape because someone happened to be recording when the submarine
28:13
Speaker 1: found him, so you can go back and see a
28:16
Speaker 1: very young George W. Bush getting rescued. He then went
28:20
Speaker 1: on and served as he was a businessman, he was
28:25
Speaker 1: a congressman, He was a UN ambassador, envoid Communist China,
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Speaker 1: chair of the Republican Party, head of the CIA, vice
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Speaker 1: president during the eighties, and then he became president in
28:38
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. And while Reagan was the one who
28:41
Speaker 1: gave them mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall speech, Bush
28:45
Speaker 1: was actually the president when the Berlin Wall fell and
28:49
Speaker 1: ended the Cold War. And one of the greatest things
28:51
Speaker 1: about George H. W. Bush was he wasn't pompous about it.
28:56
Speaker 1: He didn't gloat, he didn't make a big deal about it.
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Speaker 1: He won with grayce oushit should say, because he knew
29:02
Speaker 1: that we would still need an ally in Russia at
29:04
Speaker 1: the time after the USSR did fall, and that was
29:07
Speaker 1: critical to maintaining that relationship with Gorbachev and Russia. After
29:13
Speaker 1: the dissolution of the USSR, so not want to go
29:16
Speaker 1: down that rabbit hole too much more than I just did.
29:19
Speaker 1: But since you mentioned the Cold War, I will say
29:22
Speaker 1: learning about presidential history and loving the presidents, I will talk.
29:25
Speaker 1: And since you mentioned the end of the Cold War,
29:27
Speaker 1: I will mention George H. W. Bush as well as
29:30
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan as being some of my favorite things from
29:32
Speaker 1: the eighties. Going back to music, I mentioned I love Metallica,
29:37
Speaker 1: I love kiss I love a lot of that eighties
29:39
Speaker 1: music where you get the synthesizers and the keyboards going,
29:44
Speaker 1: So I will say that as well. You have Empire
29:48
Speaker 1: Strikes Back coming out in nineteen eighty follow by Return
29:51
Speaker 1: of the Jedi in nineteen eighty three, so you've got
29:55
Speaker 1: Star Wars coming on strong there after the initial release.
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Speaker 4: And I actually thought those were like most I thought
30:04
Speaker 4: one of them want to snuck into the eighties, but
30:06
Speaker 4: thought that they would have been the seventies.
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Speaker 1: The first one was seventy seven, so yeah.
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Speaker 2: So they each took three years to.
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Speaker 1: Make, Yes, ll seems lot.
30:21
Speaker 3: Uh.
30:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know movies can take a while,
30:26
Speaker 1: and particularly after the first one, at least you've got
30:29
Speaker 1: to make sure it's a success before you sign on
30:31
Speaker 1: for another one, but the studio won't put up any
30:35
Speaker 1: money for it. But but yeah, is there anything else
30:41
Speaker 1: that I can think of, unless you want to go
30:43
Speaker 1: down another history lesson here, anything else from the eighties
30:49
Speaker 1: that jumps out at your mind while we're talking.
30:58
Speaker 3: It was not stealing the best decadel.
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Speaker 2: Uh, Seventies were great. Eighties were kind of a low
31:08
Speaker 2: cower back in the nineties.
31:11
Speaker 3: But eighties, Chuck noldn he kind of wrote his coattails
31:17
Speaker 3: a little bit in the eighties, don't you think.
31:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about it before. Every Steelers fan knows.
31:25
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, the eighties were not a solid decade
31:29
Speaker 1: for them, highlighted I think by the biggest mistake in
31:33
Speaker 1: franchise history, well, one of the two biggest mistakes in
31:36
Speaker 1: franchise history, where they didn't draft Dan Marino, which would
31:41
Speaker 1: have solved quite a lot of problems for them.
31:44
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Dan Marine.
31:47
Speaker 4: I would imagine Dan Marino would of maybe one of.
31:51
Speaker 2: The Steelers.
31:52
Speaker 1: It's quite possible, and even if you take the eighties
31:54
Speaker 1: out of the equation, if he had a somewhat comparable
31:58
Speaker 1: to career to what he ended up having.
31:59
Speaker 3: In my.
32:01
Speaker 1: Him as the quarterback with the Steelers defense that started
32:05
Speaker 1: to have that resurgence in the nineties that you talked about,
32:08
Speaker 1: because they still made playoff appearances, they just didn't advance
32:11
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl in the eighties and nineties before
32:14
Speaker 1: Kower got there. You're you're one hundred percent right. They
32:19
Speaker 1: both parties most likely would have benefited from at least
32:22
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl whin I'd have to imagine. Yeah, but yeah, no,
32:27
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. And when the Steelers were down, the
32:31
Speaker 1: Bengals were up. So those are the prior to was
32:34
Speaker 1: it twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two, prior to
32:37
Speaker 1: this most recent appearance by the Bengals, that was their
32:40
Speaker 1: only appearances in the Super Bowl? That was their peak.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.
32:50
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have talked quite a bit about
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Speaker 1: the Browns, the Bengals, the Steelers, pop culture, pop culture,
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Speaker 1: the fall of the Soviet Union in the Cold War,
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Speaker 1: and George hw Bush. Was there anything else you wanted
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Speaker 1: to talk about before we sign off for the evening Man?
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Speaker 2: Yess do?
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm with you. I think that's a
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Speaker 1: good place to end. Hopefully Eric and I are both right,
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Speaker 1: and we'll be talking about another Steelers win next week.
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