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The Wolf Among Us - Episode 4 · Replay Reviews

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Kathy you have a new mic. I do I'm excited now we have the same one and
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It hopefully won't pick up any squeaky chairs or frogs. I miss the frogs. They were relaxing. I
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Mean, it's not mating season for the frogs. So they're tired from it now
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Well, we're gonna talk about episode 4 in sheep's clothing. Should we do the out-of-context summary?
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Let's do it in this episode. We find the world's most unconcerned cap driver
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Crane continues to compound on his icky bod Crane ways and it seems like Colin and Swineheart might have some beef
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All right. So in our opening scene, dr. Swineheart mends big B while a worried snow and Colin watch
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Snow is intent on bringing order to fabletown, but Colin points out some flaws in the system
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So my first note is just the doctor is really calm about how difficult
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Treating big B is he says you're testing even my skills here
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And that is absolutely not something you want to hear from your doctor and then can we talk about how disgusting his arm is?
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Oh my gosh, you're freaking out when we were watching that scene just cuz it's it's not an accurate representation
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But it is pretty gory in a very cartoonish way. It's accurate enough
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For your brain to fill in the blanks. It's enough to make you squeamish
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Yeah, and I played it and then edited it and then rewatched it with you
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I was tired of seeing it you were suffering and then when I was playing I couldn't like look at it
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I was trying to avoid it as much as possible
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So I missed the triangle prompt when we were trying to set the bone you were struggling there. It's gross
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but then yes, Swineheart leaves and he says bye to everyone and
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Turns to Colin and says Colin
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Colin in response goes swiney. I
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Want to know what the background of their beef is how did it begin and why are they still so mad?
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Well, are they both like the ones a pig obviously is other like a descendant of the pig like swine
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It's like swineheart and then once an actual pig are they related through some ancestor or I'm curious too
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I don't yeah, I don't know. I picked up on the pig theme as well. Yes
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Let me just google it
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I'm not finding any answers so far. Oh
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I think I found something
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Although this article does not cite any sources. So this might not be accurate, but here's what I'm finding
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He was one of three traveling army surgeons who performed surgery on themselves to impress an innkeeper
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Okay, and after removing their own organs they put them back in the morning
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One cut off his hand one cut out his heart and the other removed his own eyes
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so
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That's intense. So I mean that's pretty impressive. I guess to cut out your own
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Whichever one he was by your part and then put it back the next day and not die in between
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But I found no connections to a pig so the beef is still a mystery. I'm curious
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I kind of like Colin as a character. He's just he's sassy and that's really what my my next note is about just how
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Colin speaks up for Bigby and it's so nice to have that kind of friend when he knows Bigby enough that Bigby is probably not going to step up and defend himself
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Mm-hmm, especially against snow, right?
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Yeah, and so you have Colin who's also looking out for his friend for his best interest
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and so I I appreciate that from him and this is when snow is sort of trying to lay down the law and kind of I
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Don't know cheese. Well, she says what you turned into last night. It can't happen again and
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Collins responses we need monsters to fight monsters and big these responses
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what did you expect me to do and that's a that's a fair question like they might all be dead if he hadn't
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Turned into a giant wolf. That's exactly what my note is is that why snow?
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Against his like rules are there for a reason kind of like that kind of information and you're wondering what in the past?
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Caused her to be such a rule follower
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But at the same time it is a really fair point that they're doing what they're supposed to do and that's like suppressing your
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for them their natural instincts of transforming to protect themselves
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And it also protects other people like snow would have died had Bigby not done what he's doing and yet she's criticizing him
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Yeah, do you think she's just concerned that he doesn't have control over it?
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I don't think that I feel like it's more of an image kind of thing big be held himself pretty well
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And he wasn't out like destroying everyone. So that's my question is why snow so against him transforming
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Is it about the appearance or is it a fear of him either?
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Harming himself or harming others or is it about him being a bad influence to other?
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People who can transform like it's not about him losing control. It's about
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Him doing something and the other people think that oh I could do that too
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And then it's the other people that are gonna lose control
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Yeah, I could see all that because we know how important the glamours are so that the normal people don't see these
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Insane creatures and then they have to flee somewhere else. But yeah, it seems like after what she saw
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That she'd be a little more understanding
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But it seems like she's still just trying to fix all of crane's mistakes and she seems desperate
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I think she knows that they're kind of losing
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respect from all the other citizens
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But speaking about Colin if we can backtrack for a minute when snow and big bear in his kitchen
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Well, first of all, she admits that she's worried about him. She says you had us worried and then there's an arm touch
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so
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Then Colin walks in and they're so annoyed at him
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He interrupted their romantic moment in the dingy kitchen did not read the room at all. Mm-hmm
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Is snow realizing like one big he's not invincible and see that she cares about him more than she thought she did
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I think so. I think it was just like a moment of being very
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Vulnerable and transparent with your feelings and she just wanted to acknowledge that
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But then we turn around and then she's back to her assertive self the rest of the the episode
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and so
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You're kind of wondering
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Is it just like a moment kind of thing or is it gonna turn into something more?
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I don't know if she sees it as a weakness, especially because they work together
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Mm-hmm to have feelings but
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Whatever it is. I think Colin sort of annoys her back into
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Her normal ways of trying to be professional and then they start talking about what is the plan and Colin asks
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Do you even have a plan and who should I be asking?
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And this is similar to something we heard last episode when snow says sometimes it's fuzzy in response to someone
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Asking oh you're in charge now people don't know who is even leading them anymore
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Is it snow or is it big B should snow continue trying to set rules?
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Even though it's gonna piss people off is that kind of behavior gonna continue to earn respect or is it gonna make people?
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See her as the next crane. How do you proceed in that kind of situation?
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Do you become rule setting and forcing people to follow or do you become a more collaborative?
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Leader in letting people express their concerns Colin sort of calls her out on that too
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He gets told again to get a glamour or he'll be sent to the farm
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And he's like, okay, but with what money am I gonna get a glamour? I don't even have thumbs. I can't work
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So he's pointing out sort of a major flaw in the system that
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Not all of these fables are even capable of acquiring any means to follow the rules that have been set
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And I don't think snow has noticed that or realized that until this point
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At some point they're talking about the crooked man and snow says what does he even want out of all this?
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He has to be more than just a lone shark control power whether it's actually deserved or if it's just perceived power
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And snow goes on to say this war has been going on for years. We just haven't noticed it. So I think he has been
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Just slowly chipping away at the leadership of fabletown and sort of shifting everyone over to his side
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And I think yeah, it is about control
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What he wants out of the control. We don't know probably money. He's definitely up to something
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Are you ready for a scene one?
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Mm-hmm. All right
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Big me meet
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I should have done a warm-up
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Okay
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Big B meets with Nuressa in his office who's able to point him in the direction of beauty and beast
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We learn more about the magic behind the ribbon
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In the direction of beauty and beast we learn more about the magic behind the ribbon the girls wear on their necks
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So it's just like an observation about Nuressa, but I feel like she knows more than what people
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Think she knows and it's not just even about her but it's about all the other girls
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They know a lot more because of the people coming to them are probably spilling secrets
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And and they know they can't talk
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Yeah, and so
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Then you have the issue of how do they communicate that to big b and it sucks that people think that they're like
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Oh, they're just kind of like part of the wall part of the background. We don't need to worry about them
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Maybe it's a good thing that they're
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Blending in with the background so much so then they can share that information when the time comes
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Yeah, it's pretty demeaning. But at the same time they're being underestimated and we're definitely seeing that with Nuressa because this is the second time
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She's given him vital information
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Mm-hmm. So we talked about in the first episode
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About that weird chemistry with big b and faith and I feel like there's something similar here with Nuressa
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Did you pick up on that? I felt that too and I don't think it's about the person but the ribbon. I feel like the ribbon holds
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Something more. I don't know exactly what it is
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But I do think it's the person who wears a ribbon kind of is enchanted to act a certain way
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Like asking do you like this ribbon?
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Yeah, both of them say the same thing. I think it's the ribbon making
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the person the owner say that
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Interesting. Okay. Yeah, I definitely picked up on that
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They both asked if he likes it and there are some weird similarities between them
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So yeah, I think the question is
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Why? What's causing it? Mm-hmm
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So at some point big b smokes a cigarette and Nuressa says not many people smoke those so
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She's not she seems like she's not involved. Remember we found that pack of huff and puffs
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Was that the crime scene or in?
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It was at the crime scene, right? I don't know if it was
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I can't remember. I need to look now, but I also think that this brand
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Is going to be a big deal?
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Whether it's some kind of incriminating evidence or someone's going to try to frame big b
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But I do think it's going to be part of the evidence or a way to solve the identity of who the murderer is
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Yeah, agreed. I know we've been keeping track of like who
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Isn't disgusted by them. Mm-hmm. Okay. I found it. Okay
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so
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There's an ashtray in the room where faith was murdered
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And there's a cigarette there big b sniffs it and says it's a huff and puff and beater responds
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I thought you were the only one who smoked that crap brand
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so we're looking for people who
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Don't react
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disgusted
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Around a huff and puff
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And I don't think we've noticed any yet. I mean, but here's the thing. We know that
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What's the name woody?
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Mm-hmm. I think he's grabbed a cigarette from him
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From big b so he doesn't act disgusted. Well, he he takes one later this episode
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He takes it but he says shitty brand
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Okay, so I don't think he would choose it. I don't think we can rule him out
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For this, but I don't think he's our like number one. Mm-hmm
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So nerissa talks a lot about
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Friends and she is almost kind of hinting which big b picks up on
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That his friends might be in danger and then later she says can you keep this conversation between us?
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It makes me wonder is someone close to big b on the inside of this
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Like blue beard, maybe we know he burnt evidence
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And he's not necessarily a friend of big b's but he's close to him
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I won't be surprised. I don't know who either but it has to be someone that
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Nerissa knows is a friend of big b. And then we learn which we've speculated before
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That the girls die if their ribbons are removed
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It basically cuts their heads off and that's how big b says faith and lily died
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Do you think faith and lily died because someone was trying to get information out of them?
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They're trying to get them to talk and they took the ribbon off thinking that that would solve it
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And they just died was it more manslaughter than murder? I mean, what do you think the other?
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Theory is that they took it off themselves because they
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Didn't want to continue
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And so um except for faith. I don't think could have because her head was placed unless she had someone do it for her. Yeah
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Lily could have done it. I guess
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Yeah, I don't know. I I I do feel like that's quite the stretch the other third theory
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I think it's someone intentionally wanted to kill them and decided that they know
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Taking the ribbon off will kill them. So they're gonna go with that route
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Yeah, I think it's either intentional murder
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Or manslaughter because they were trying to to get information out of them
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Um, that's all my notes for the scene. Do you have any more? Nope
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All right scene two big b arrives at beauty and beast's apartment where beauty asks
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For his help dealing with the crooked man. They give big B some locations to check out where he might catch onto the trail of the crooked man
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My first note is just beast is being such a butt face
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He is arguing with beauty and she says that she trusts big B and he goes. Oh, of course you do
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He was keeping secrets for you
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But was he because I kept choosing to not get involved. I didn't know what her secret was
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Barely before beast knew about it. I think base is just taking it out on her
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I don't think there's more to it. I feel like that was just a pretty shallow statement
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Like he said out of anger, right? He's being a butt face. It just seems like in general all the fables are
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Struggling whether it's with like money. Well, obviously it's all rooted with money issues
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So I'm curious what happened to make them all struggle with money
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Yeah, and then that raises a good question because with Colin we know he can't make money
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but
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Big B sort of is irritated at beauty and beast because their apartment is so fancy
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And it sounds like they took out the loan just to be able to keep up that lifestyle
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So did they really even need it to survive or was it just to to be comfortable?
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I had a question. Do you think faith and Lily were killed because they had debt?
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We know that Lily had debt Holly says as much but it seems like Georgie takes in women with debt and
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Beauty's file in the Tweedles office. There's a note saying Georgie has an interest
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So do you think all these women are indebted to the crooked man who then Georgie takes in?
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As strippers or prostitutes to get what they're owed. I think part of it is also they're taking advantage of when they transition to moving into
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From the force or wherever they were into the city
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They couldn't like easily adapt to their new lifestyle
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And I do think that it might have been a way just to kind of get control over them saying that oh just like take out alone
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I'll have to take out a loan
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So you can slowly transition they just pretty much preyed on these people to make sure that they go in debt
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And then follow-up question
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Do you think this has been what Lawrence has been talking about when he says I didn't try to stop it and that kind of thing is he talking about?
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Faith taking out a loan and then having to go into prostitution to pay it off. I think so. I think it might even go
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Before they were taken out of debt
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And then my last note as big B's leaving beast asks him once you find the crooked man. Can you dot dot dot?
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Help us out
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And I chose to not respond because I was so mad at beast still but what do you think they're asking him to do here?
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Kill them and erase their files. Yeah
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Agree
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I think it's a good thing that they're asking him to do that
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Still, but what do you think they're asking him to do here? Uh kill them and erase their files. Yeah agreed
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Only issue with that is later snow asks big B to bring him back alive
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So I feel like baby's not gonna kill someone if he doesn't need to he already has enough hate from people that he doesn't need to do
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More to potentially anchor someone
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Yeah, and that's that's a good point people say they're scared of him
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But then they ask him to do things like this. It's sort of a double standard. You are a hypocrite
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Yeah, everyone's like a hypocrite there. They they're scared of him, but they want him to do their dirty work for him. That's not fair
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Mm-hmm. Not at all
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All right scene three. Mm-hmm big B arrives at the butcher shop where we learn the owner was strong-armed out of his business by bloody marion company
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Big B discovers the crooked man is dealing in black market magic
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I might have said crooked funny, but we're gonna just accept it
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My first note is I love making big B say nothing because it makes the characters that he's interacting with so uncomfortable
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And we see that with yohan the butcher. He just keeps rambling on and on and starts to sound like an idiot
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It's also a good way to get more information out of them to just let them keep talking. I was just about to say that
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Yeah, sorry. No
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So once they make it into this secret room where the magic is being produced
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Yohan asked big B. Where were you when they took this from me?
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That's just another example of how leadership has been failing the citizens of fabletown
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I don't know if there's any more to say about that. I don't know what else to say
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So there's a couple chalkboards one is orders and one is ingredients
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And there's a few names we recognize on the board. But the first one I want to talk about is anti greenleaf
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Do you think she was working for the crooked man or just getting her supplies from him? I think based on everyone's experience
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She probably has something that he's holding on to and that's why she's complicit
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The names we recognize on this orders board are anti greenleaf georgie faith lily narissa
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Each of these names has letters next to them
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Which if you look it's pretty clear that these are
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Abbreviations for ingredients. So I wrote down all the ingredients
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for everyone
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For georgie, there is kk ff and ee
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Ff was pretty clearly tongue of dog and ee was pretty clearly swine's snout
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And then kk you couldn't see the start of it
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But i'm pretty sure it says wolfsbane
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So, I don't know what these make but there's two that have to do with dogs and since bigby's kind of like a dog
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I'm wondering if it has something to do with like throwing him
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Off a scent or something. I don't know. I might be reaching but I feel like there's clues here
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I don't know either but I I also feel like something is probably going to tie back to colin too just because he's big
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And then something else interesting I noticed faith lily and narissa
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They all have three ingredients and all three of them two of them are the same jay in dd
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J is dragon's wart
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And dd is star of the north
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I don't know what it is. I don't know
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What is star of the north?
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I don't know what that means me neither
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But it seems like there's clearly something pretty similar with
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These three characters and whatever magic they're getting. Mm-hmm mother note for this scene is just about
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All this information. Do you think it's going to make a difference to the overall case?
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Of solving who's been doing the murdering or do you think it's just going to
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Linear like because he has to solve this then help be able to solve the murder. That's
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A good question. I don't know that it directly correlates to solving the murder except that yohan then points him in the direction
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of the lucky pond
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But beauty already talked about that
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But it does sort of it gives you information to better understand the crooked man and this whole operation
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And everything that's going on in fable town
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So I think it it makes more sense of everything that's going on, but it doesn't necessarily solve it
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Unless there really are clues hidden in these letters
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I'm not convinced that these are just random
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anything else
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Nope
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classic
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Kathy nope
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All right scene for summary after leaving the butcher shop big b heads to the lucky pond where woody is looking for his stolen ex
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We meet the jersey devil a member of the crooked man's gang and a fight breaks out
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Once the dust settles big b finds crane coat with the missing shard from the magic mirror safely inside
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I'm trying to not kill people
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So I intentionally like miss a few qte's here
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Because i'm trying to not kill this guy
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I mean he seems like a bad person, but we don't know that much about him
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I didn't feel like he deserved to have his head chopped off by a security gate
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but also
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Woody and big b are teaming up now
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That's a change. I kind of like that change. I think woody appreciated that for once it seemed like after
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Lily's murder
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woody sort of
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I don't know
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Got more in touch with reality and who's on what side and who the good guys are
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My next note is about
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The picture of snow in crane's pocket
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Can you just stop guy? What a creep, right?
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It's so disturbing. Here's the other thing is this is the same picture that was in the glamour tube
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So did he take it after they found it? I wouldn't be surprised. He took it back
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He has a problem obviously a huge problem
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Icky bod crane just does not know how to quit
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And it seems like the jersey devil is on bloody mary's payroll and then my next note goes down to after the fight
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Okay, same here. My next note is
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Jersey's quote of I don't know what they did
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But if they're dead, it's because the crooked man wanted them dead talking about
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Faith and Lily and we know that they knew something because crane was trying to get information out of them
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And then he also says
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He's not in your town. You're in his
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So that's pretty telling as well. It's clear that there's a lot of people
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Who are on the crooked man's side or even if they're not on his side, they're being controlled by him now
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What he's mentioning the
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Secret brand again, it's starting to become more and more frequent that someone's pointing it out
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Yeah, we've had
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At least three people say that's a crap brand
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So it seems very purposeful. Otherwise, why do we keep saying this?
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My next note is
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big b looks like he just killed someone there's blood splattered all over him
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And then he just hails a cab and they pull right over and just let him in
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I would never stop for someone looking like that
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What is wrong with this cab driver? He probably has picked up big b enough to know that's very normal for him to be wearing someone else's blood
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Fair enough. Um, but also can you just walk around the city with your
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That seems like that's not okay either. Well, I mean considering how it's kind of hard to kill a fable. I feel like it's pretty
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Normal, it's not like one chop is gonna kill you. Well, but we're in new york. There's still normal people around
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It seems like maybe you should have
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At least tried to hide it under your shirt or something. I mean
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If you saw that would you be the one who goes and speaks up and if you saw that
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I would be minding my own business. I wouldn't say something but I would definitely cross the street through traffic to avoid walking
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Same here same here. All right moving on to scene five
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With the shard in his possession big b returns to the business office to find toad and blue beard getting into it with snow and with
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each other
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Buffkin mends the magic mirror which reveals crane is alive and being sent far away
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We also see the location of the crooked man's door and big b rushes to find it before it moves again. First question
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Is that when they're looking at the shard and buffkin saying that he needed to
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Kind of coax the the mirror. What is buffkin's relationship with the guy in the mirror?
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And to when buffkin seemed like he was struggling to fit that last piece of the mirror
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It was a little bit of a surprise
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And to when buffkin seemed like he was struggling to fit that last piece of the mirror it almost made me think that there is a second mirror
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And could there be a second mirror out there?
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So I think to answer the first part of your question, I think buffkin is sort of like the librarian of the business office
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So he just knows a lot of information
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and then to
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And then to answer the second part of your question
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it seems
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hinted at that since bloody mary was near this shard of the mirror
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The rest of the mirror was rejecting it
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And then we get some confirmation when they spy on crane and bloody mary's there
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And then she seems to know that they're watching her through the mirror
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and she sort of
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Attacks it in some way and the mirrors like okay, can we please like not?
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But then big b questions bluebird about burning crane's possessions
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and he responds that he was
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Keeping things out of the light that had to do with snow
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Do we buy this excuse?
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Yeah, and big b doesn't either it's clear
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He's hiding something and we still don't know what it is, but he was burning evidence
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So maybe he is on the inside and maybe that's who narissa didn't want finding out about that conversation
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So my next note is just well poop crane is alive
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I was really hoping that we'd get to do a so long for crane, but it seems he's just being sent far away
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He probably still has value in oh, yeah blackmail or whatever. He holds a lot of good information that they need for now exactly
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Okay, final scene then
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Big b makes it to the crooked man's door in time and enters to find tiny tim on the other side
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who escorts him to the crooked man and his inner circle
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So when big b gets to the door he kicks it open so he's really close to it
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And then suddenly he's like 20 feet away from it and runs in how did he get back so far?
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I feel like the entering the door is like a portal or something that so you have that I don't know I
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Because like shot backwards or something
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Yeah, I can't explain what what was going on
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It was weird. I had to point it out and then he gets through the door and this is when we meet tiny tim
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Who says that the crooked man helped him out and drops some hints that he's helped out a lot of other people as well
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Okay
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I had to pause
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I had to go back after we watched this together
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Because I wasn't sure if I was hearing this right, but when we get to
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The outside of the door we hear I'm pretty sure it's jersey laughing and you hear georgie
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Talking to him and he says am I some kind of joke to you
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Joke to you
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What did I tell you and then it sounds like he starts to say
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Stop laughing at me
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And if you remember
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This is what toad jr. Heard. Oh
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Oh, yeah, do we need to play this audio real quick? Yeah, can we can't yeah
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It's hard to hear so we might need to listen to it a couple times, but okay. That's just a good point. I'm curious
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All right, i'm gonna turn up my volume. So don't yell at me or else i'll scream. Okay, so listen very carefully
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What did I tell you tell me who the fuck is back there did you hear it
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I think I did can go back just a little bit
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What did I tell you tell me who the fuck is back there
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Yeah, I heard it. You're right. That's actually a really good observation good job. Thank you as soon as I heard the laugh I was like, oh
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Someone's laughing that was one of our things to keep track of
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so I mean
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I sounds like he at least helped dump the bodies
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Or the body know that the crooked man is involved, but we didn't know
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If it's within his inner circle that is also involved and to what extent we don't know yet, but it's at least we
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Kind of like zoomed in on where exactly
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Bigby should focus his intention exactly. That was a pretty good clue
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And that's why I feel like the cigarettes is a clue too and that will come around at some point. We've got to keep on it
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Yeah, seriously
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And then he also listens in from behind the door on the crooked man talking and it sounds like he's trying to win over
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Bigby
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He says you needn't worry. He'll come around and like crane before him. I'm sure he'll prove to be quite useful
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So he's got plans and he's trying to manipulate and control people that is confirmed in this moment. We see his inner circle
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Which it's the tweedles jersey georgie and then the blonde puddin and pie girl
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So like within this group of people are these everyone?
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involved at like in terms of like having the power to
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Choose what's going to happen or stuff or are they just all there and they just take order like can these people think for themselves?
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It's a good question
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I don't know and bloody mary is not there
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Mm-hmm. Does that show that she maybe has a higher degree of freedom than they do and that's why she's not there
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But based off of the jerseys comments the jersey devils comments, it sounds like he is
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top authority
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And he is still in control. We don't know what he's doing
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In control. We don't know to what extent these people are involved with him
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But they certainly seem like he has some degree of trust in them
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And that's it for me. All right
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Well the cigarette count
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Your guess was three. Do you want to guess what it actually was? Oh my gosh, wasn't it like five? It was six
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Oh
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So your guess of eight from last time was actually not so bad
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Yeah
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Okay
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final episode guess
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I'm gonna say wait. Is this for all smokers or just big b smoking? It's just big b
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I'd say about let's do six
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again, okay
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Writing it down
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Okay locked in anything else or should we close it out?
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Let's close it out
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Okay, we're gonna be posting episode five gameplay, which we'll be discussing next week
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And is that all we say
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Yeah, I don't know
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It's the last episode of wolf among us. It's the last episode. We'll find out who the killer is. But will we find out why?
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There might still be some mysteries
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my voice cracked
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Are we ready to count it off? Yes, it's counted off
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Voice recorder first on one three, two one