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- 0:00Welcome back to the Deep Dive. We are really glad you were here
- 0:02with us for another session of reformed thinking.
- 0:05We are. If you are a regular listener,
- 0:07you know the drill. We are two friends, fellow
- 0:10learners and followers of the Westminster Confession Standard.
- 0:13Just trying to think God's thoughts after Him.
- 0:15That is correct. And you know, we're not gurus.
- 0:18We are students of the Word seeking to apply the lens of
- 0:21scripture to every square inch of life.
- 0:25And today we are looking at a square inch that people often
- 0:29view through rose colored glasses, but rarely analyze with
- 0:32this level of grit. The mission.
- 0:34Field. Oh, absolutely, yeah.
- 0:36I think when most of us think about missions, we have this,
- 0:38like, movie montage in our heads.
- 0:40Yeah. You know, the brave missionaries
- 0:42standing on a hill, the sun setting, the village gathered
- 0:45around in perfect harmony. It is beautiful.
- 0:48It is heroic. It's.
- 0:49Clean, very clean. And it does not that those
- 0:51moments don't exist. God is doing amazing work among
- 0:54the nations, but the reality is that missionaries are not
- 0:58superheroes. They are sinners and they are
- 1:00sinners sent to live among other sinners, usually in a high
- 1:03stress environment where the air conditioning breaks, the
- 1:05language is hard, and the the cultural rules are completely
- 1:09different. And that is where we are going
- 1:11today. We are doing a deep dive into
- 1:14Biblical missions, principles, priorities, and practices by
- 1:18Mark Tatlock and Clay Burnett. A great book.
- 1:21Specifically, we are looking at their work on resolving conflict
- 1:24in cross cultural settings. We also have some fascinating
- 1:27case studies from Sean Ransom on the Philippines and Jung Ucho on
- 1:32South Korea. And the central question we are
- 1:34tackling is this How do we handle conflict when the rules
- 1:37of a culture contradict the commands of the Bible?
- 1:41Because, as we will see, good theology is not just about
- 1:44getting your doctrine right on paper.
- 1:46It is about how you treat the person who just offended you in
- 1:49a language you barely understand.
- 1:51So let's set the framework before we get into the messy
- 1:53details. Since this is reformed thinking,
- 1:55we have to start with our authority, always.
- 1:57We aren't just looking for best practices from a corporate HR
- 2:00manual here. Sola scriptura scripture alone
- 2:04is the supreme authority. That is the anchor, right?
- 2:08When we talk about cross cultural missions, we are
- 2:10talking about the intersection of divine command and human
- 2:12tradition. And the Reformed perspective is
- 2:15clear. Culture is a good gift from God.
- 2:18It reflects his creativity. But it has fallen.
- 2:21Every single part of it. Every culture, including our own
- 2:24Western culture, has idols. Right, it is easy to spot the
- 2:28idols in another culture, but much harder to see them in your
- 2:30own. Oh for sure.
- 2:31We tend to think our way of doing things is just normal or
- 2:34logical while everyone else is being cultural.
- 2:37Precisely so when a cultural norm clashes with a biblical
- 2:41command, the culture has to yield OK.
- 2:44The goal in conflict resolution, therefore, is not just ceasing
- 2:48hostilities or agreeing to disagree.
- 2:51It is true biblical reconciliation.
- 2:53It is about demonstrating the gospel and how we repair breaks
- 2:56and relationships. OK, let's unpack this.
- 2:58The source material starts with this fantastic illustration
- 3:01about a doorway. I love this example.
- 3:03I think this captures how these conflicts usually start.
- 3:07It is not always about heresy. Sometimes it is just about
- 3:11walking through a door. It is a classic example of how
- 3:14scripts collide. So picture an elevator in South
- 3:17Africa. You have two people inside. 1 is
- 3:21a woman from an African's background.
- 3:22The other is a man from a Zulu background.
- 3:25The doors open. OK, I am picturing it.
- 3:27Now in the Africans culture, which has European roots, what
- 3:30is the rule? What is the polite thing to do?
- 3:34Ladies first. It is a sign of respect.
- 3:36It is chivalry. If the man pushes past her, he's
- 3:39being rude. He is essentially saying she
- 3:41doesn't matter or he is in too much of a hurry to care about.
- 3:44Her correct. That is her cultural script.
- 3:47But in traditional Zulu culture, the rule is different.
- 3:49The man goes first. Why?
- 3:51Because historically, outside the door or the cryo could be
- 3:54dangerous. It could be a snake, an enemy, a
- 3:57threat. So the man goes first to
- 3:59protect. It is a gesture of safety.
- 4:01So the elevator opens. The Zulu man steps out first
- 4:03thinking I am protecting this woman, I am doing the honorable
- 4:07thing. The Africans woman sees him step
- 4:09out and thinks what a jerk, he has no manners.
- 4:12And he looks back at her and sees she is offended.
- 4:15Maybe she huffs or rolls her eyes and he thinks, why is she
- 4:19ungrateful? I am putting my body on the line
- 4:22for her and she is treating me with contempt.
- 4:25That is the perfect storm. It is a trivial example, sure.
- 4:28It is just an elevator, but it shows how easily wires get
- 4:32crossed. So easily.
- 4:33Neither of them sinned, strictly speaking, they just had
- 4:36different dictionaries for their behavior.
- 4:38And that is the key take away here.
- 4:40Living in a new culture highlights the beauty of
- 4:43diversity, but it also creates inevitable confusion.
- 4:47Missionaries offend others without trying.
- 4:49They get offended by others who aren't trying to be offensive.
- 4:52And perhaps most painfully, they offend each other.
- 4:55Oh yeah. The team dynamic is often where
- 4:58the hardest conflicts happen because you expect your
- 5:00teammates to operate by your script.
- 5:02So if conflict is inevitable, what is the solution?
- 5:06The authors argue that we need to be peacemakers, but they get
- 5:09very specific about what that means.
- 5:11They do. They break down the concept of
- 5:12forgiveness into four distinct terms.
- 5:16And I have to say this was a huge aha moment for me.
- 5:19Me too. I think I have been using the
- 5:22word forgiveness as this big blanket term and has caused me a
- 5:25lot of confusion over the years. You are not alone.
- 5:28The semantic problem is real, we say.
- 5:31I forgive you, but what do we mean right?
- 5:33Do we mean I am not bitter? Do we mean we are best friends
- 5:37again? Do we mean I won't bring it up?
- 5:39Or do we simply mean I am ignoring?
- 5:41It all very different things. The authors argue, and I think
- 5:45they are biblically spot on, that we need to distinguish
- 5:48between 4 concepts harboring bitterness, the willingness to
- 5:52forgive, the granting of forgiveness and reconciliation.
- 5:55Let's take these one by one, because this is the theological
- 5:58engine of the whole discussion. It really is.
- 6:00If we get this wrong, the practical stuff won't work.
- 6:02First up, harboring bitterness. The do not list.
- 6:06The Greek word here is picria. Picria.
- 6:08It literally refers to something sharp, pointed or acidic.
- 6:12Like a lemon. That is it.
- 6:14Think of the face a toddler makes when they taste a lemon
- 6:16for the first time. Yeah, that pucker.
- 6:18That pucker, that recoil, The authors explain that bitterness
- 6:22is the internal lemon face of the soul.
- 6:24It is that sharp resentment you feel when someone's name is
- 6:27mentioned. Oh, that is convicting.
- 6:29You know you have picria when you hear a name and your stomach
- 6:31drops or your jaw tightens. It's a physical thing.
- 6:34It's a visceral action. You might be smiling on the
- 6:36outside, but inside you are recoiling.
- 6:39And Hebrews 12.14 feet 5th warns us about this explicitly.
- 6:43It calls it a root of bitterness.
- 6:45Right. And think about gardening.
- 6:46What do roots do? They grow underground, unseen
- 6:49for a while. They spread, and eventually they
- 6:51shoot up. The text says that by this root
- 6:54many be defiled. Bitterness is contagious.
- 6:58If a missionary is bitter against a national partner or a
- 7:02team member, that poison does not stay contained.
- 7:05No, it leaks out and infects the whole ministry.
- 7:08It is like a gas leak in a house.
- 7:10You might not see it, but eventually everyone is getting
- 7:13sick. That's a great analogy.
- 7:14So what is the antidote? Because telling someone don't be
- 7:17bitter is like telling someone don't be sad doesn't really
- 7:20help. How do we actually fight?
- 7:22It this is where the source material brings in Jonathan
- 7:25Edwards, and frankly, this might be the most impactful part of
- 7:29the entire text for me personally.
- 7:31Oh, wow. Edwards had a series of
- 7:32resolutions. He lived by basically his
- 7:35personal code of conduct before God.
- 7:38His eighth resolution flips the script on how we view ourselves
- 7:41in conflict. Read that for us or summarize it
- 7:44because it is heavy. OK, so Edwards resolved to act
- 7:48in all respects as if nobody had been so vile as he was.
- 7:51As he was. Wow.
- 7:53He resolved that when he saw the sins or failings of others, it
- 7:56would would only trigger shame regarding his own sin.
- 7:58Wow. That is counter intuitive.
- 8:01Our natural instinct is to say, look at what they did.
- 8:03I would never do that. Of course.
- 8:05We use other people's sin to make ourselves feel better about
- 8:07our own standing. Right, but Edwards is applying
- 8:10the logic of Matthew 18, the parable of the unmerciful
- 8:14servant. The 10,000 talents.
- 8:15The logic is I have sinned against an infinitely holy God.
- 8:21My debt is incalculable. It is billions of dollars in
- 8:23spiritual currency, right? If I really understand that, if
- 8:27I really grasp the magnitude of my offense against God, then
- 8:31whatever this person did to me, as bad as it might be, is a drop
- 8:35in the bucket compared to what God has forgiven me.
- 8:38That completely destroys the platform for bitterness.
- 8:41It pulls the rug right out from under it.
- 8:43You cannot look down on someone else's sin if you are genuinely
- 8:47overwhelmed by the mercy shown to your own.
- 8:51It levels the playing field immediately.
- 8:52Precisely. If you are harboring bitterness,
- 8:55it is a theological indicator that you have lost sight of the
- 8:57cross. You are acting like the servant
- 9:00who has forgiven millions but choked the guy who owed him 10
- 9:03bucks. You have forgotten the Gospel in
- 9:04that moment. OK, so that is step one.
- 9:06Kill the bitterness. That is the internal work, the
- 9:08hard work. Step 2 is the willingness to
- 9:10forgive. Yeah.
- 9:11How is this different from actually forgiving?
- 9:14This is the internal posture. It is the readiness.
- 9:18Luke 6.2736 commands this. We must always be willing to
- 9:23forgive. This is mandatory.
- 9:26It is about the heart being open.
- 9:28But you haven't necessarily told the person yet.
- 9:30You might not be able to. The authors give a great
- 9:33scenario here. Imagine a missionary is offended
- 9:36by a national partner, but the national partner does not think
- 9:39he sinned. Maybe it is a cultural thing.
- 9:42Maybe he just doesn't see it. If the missionary walks up and
- 9:44says I forgive you, what happens?
- 9:46The guy says for what? I didn't do anything right, and
- 9:49now you have a new conflict about whether the first thing
- 9:51was even a sin. It actually makes things worse.
- 9:55It creates more conflict. You cannot complete the
- 9:57transaction of forgiveness if the other person doesn't admit
- 10:00there is a debt. But, and this is key, you must
- 10:03maintain the willingness to forgive.
- 10:05You stay open. You don't close your heart if
- 10:08you don't have this willingness. You become like Jonah.
- 10:11Jonah, the unmerciful missionary.
- 10:13Yes, Jonah preached to Nineveh, but he didn't want them to be
- 10:18saved. He didn't want them forgiven.
- 10:20He sat on the hill waiting for fire to fall, and God
- 10:23disciplined him for it. Unwillingness to forgive
- 10:26suggests we don't understand God's grace.
- 10:29We want justice for others and mercy for ourselves.
- 10:32So willingness is the heart posture.
- 10:34It is standing at the door with it unlocked, waiting for them to
- 10:37knock. That's a perfect way to put it.
- 10:39Now Step 3, the granting of forgiveness.
- 10:43This is the transaction. Yes, this is modeled after how
- 10:46God Forgives us. Psalm one O 3.11 He removes our
- 10:50transgressions as far as the east is from the West.
- 10:53He remembers them no more. Now we have to be careful here
- 10:56for humans. We cannot wipe our memories.
- 10:58We aren't hard drives. I cannot just hit delete on the
- 11:02memory of you hurting me. Right.
- 11:03If someone stole from me, I remember the theft.
- 11:05I cannot force my brain to forget it happened.
- 11:08If I see them, I remember what they did.
- 11:10So what does it mean to remember no more?
- 11:12It is a volitional choice. It is a promise.
- 11:14It means I choose not to use this sin against you.
- 11:17I choose not to bring it up to win an argument three months
- 11:20from now or. In front of other people or in
- 11:22front? Of other people I choose not to
- 11:23gossip about it. To others, I choose not to let
- 11:26it sting you anymore. It is covering the sin, as Psalm
- 11:3032 puts it. That is a helpful distinction.
- 11:32It is not amnesia, it is a covenant.
- 11:35I promise not to use this weapon against you.
- 11:37I am laying down the weapon. Correct.
- 11:39And finally, the fourth term reconciliation Catalasa in
- 11:44Greek. Catalasa.
- 11:45It means in exchange you are exchanging a bad relationship
- 11:49for a good one. And this is the goal, this is
- 11:51what we are aiming for. It is forgiveness produces love,
- 11:55but the timeline here is variable.
- 11:56This is where people get tripped up.
- 11:58Willingness must be instant. Granting forgiveness happens
- 12:02upon repentance. But reconciliation?
- 12:04Trust takes time, right? Especially if the conflict
- 12:07involved abuse, theft, or deep betrayal.
- 12:09You can forgive someone instantly, meaning you hold no
- 12:12bitterness and you grant them pardon.
- 12:14But rebuilding the relationship to where it was?
- 12:16That might take years. And that is OK.
- 12:19It is OK, it is wise. If a treasurer steals money, you
- 12:23forgive him, but you don't make him treasurer again the next
- 12:26day. That would be foolish.
- 12:29The process must be timely to prevent bitterness, but the
- 12:32restoration depends on the fruit of repentance.
- 12:35So we have the terms. Now let's talk about the
- 12:37mechanics. Because in the heat of the
- 12:39moment, you have to make a decision.
- 12:40Yeah. Do I say something or do I let
- 12:42it go? The source material offers a
- 12:44decision matrix here. Option A is unconditional
- 12:48forgiveness. Just overlooking it.
- 12:50This is based on Mark 11.25. Yeah, when you stand praying,
- 12:54forgive. No confrontation needed.
- 12:56OK, This is for the petty stuff, the unintentional slights, the
- 13:00bad day where someone snaps at you because they have a.
- 13:03Headache curse Peter 4.8 Love covers a multitude of sins and.
- 13:07Practically, if we confronted every single slight, we would be
- 13:10insufferable. Oh my goodness, yes.
- 13:12Imagine living with a roommate who wanted to have a
- 13:14reconciliation meeting every time you left a sock on the
- 13:17floor or didn't say good morning with enough enthusiasm.
- 13:20Nightmare. You would never get any work
- 13:21done. You would spend your whole life
- 13:23in meetings. Right.
- 13:24So the motivation here is what is best for the offender.
- 13:28Usually it is best to just let Grace cover it.
- 13:31You absorb the cost. You say I am going to let that
- 13:34go because I love them. But we cannot overlook
- 13:37everything. Option B is conditional
- 13:39forgiveness confrontation, right?
- 13:41When do we pull the trigger on this?
- 13:44When does overlooking become enabling?
- 13:47Luke 17.3 gives us the rubric. If your brother sins, rebuke
- 13:52him. You do this when the sin is
- 13:54significant enough to damage the relationship, damage the
- 13:57person's walk with God, or damage the community.
- 14:00Again, check your motivation. The motivation isn't I am mad
- 14:03and I want to vent. It is restoration.
- 14:04You are fighting for the person, not against them.
- 14:07The source material outlines 3 steps from Luke 17.
- 14:10Let's walk through them. Step one, rebuke.
- 14:13But be careful with that word. In English, rebuke sounds like
- 14:15screaming. Yeah, sounds.
- 14:16Harsh in the Greek, and in this context, it implies a warning, a
- 14:20cautious, loving confrontation. You go to them privately.
- 14:23You lay it out. Step 2.
- 14:25If they repent, forgive them. Grant that forgiveness.
- 14:27We talked about step three. Repeat 70 * 7.
- 14:33Now here is where it gets tricky.
- 14:35And I think this is where modern evangelical niceness clashes
- 14:38with biblical grit. It really does.
- 14:40What if they don't repent? The source material says
- 14:43something that might sound harsh to modern years.
- 14:46It says there are times when you withhold forgiveness.
- 14:49You have to be precise here, because this is dangerous
- 14:51ground. You do not withhold the
- 14:53willingness. You never hold on to bitterness,
- 14:55right? But you withhold the granting of
- 14:57forgiveness, the transaction. Why?
- 14:59Because forgiveness is a response to repentance.
- 15:03If a brother is unrepentant, saying I forgive you is actually
- 15:06a lie. It minimizes the sin.
- 15:08It tells them everything is fine when everything is not fine.
- 15:11So for their own good, you retain the sin, you keep the
- 15:14issue on the table. Yes, Jesus talks about retaining
- 15:17sins in John 20. It means you keep pressing for
- 15:20repentance because you love them too much to let them stay in
- 15:22their sin. You don't let them sweep it
- 15:24under the rug. And if that unrepentance
- 15:26continues, you escalate. This is Matthew 18.
- 15:29You bring witnesses, then you tell the church.
- 15:32And if they still refuse? You treat them as an unbeliever.
- 15:35In a mission context, that means they are now part of the mission
- 15:38field, not the church. Exactly.
- 15:40It is tragic, but it is commanded.
- 15:43We often think church discipline is mean or unloving.
- 15:46The Bible presents it as the ultimate act of love, trying to
- 15:49wake someone up from a spiritual coma.
- 15:52It is a rescue mission. Let's apply this.
- 15:54The sources give us a very specific, painful case study.
- 15:59The disciple who steals. This is a nightmare scenario for
- 16:03any missionary. You have poured your life into a
- 16:05national leader. You trust them.
- 16:08Maybe you have eaten in their home and then money goes
- 16:10missing. And the context here is vital.
- 16:13We have to understand the economic pressure.
- 16:14In many mission fields. The Western missionary is
- 16:17perceived as incredibly wealthy, regardless of their actual bank
- 16:20account. To the local community.
- 16:22They are a walking ATM, right? And the national partner often
- 16:26has extended family, uncles, cousins in laws who all expect
- 16:30him to share his wealth because he works for the foreigner.
- 16:32So he is under pressure you do not see.
- 16:34Right. The pressure to steal isn't
- 16:36always greed. Sometimes it is a desperate
- 16:39attempt to meet cultural obligations of generosity.
- 16:43He might be stealing to pay for his uncle's surgery because his
- 16:45culture says if you have access to money and don't share it, you
- 16:50are a bad person. That doesn't make it right, but
- 16:53it makes it complex. Yeah, it humanizes the sin.
- 16:56So money is missing. What is step one?
- 16:596.1 Look at yourself. Check for pride, check for
- 17:02bitterness. The missionary has to realize I
- 17:05have sinned against God more than this guy stole from me.
- 17:07Back to Edwards. Back to Edwards.
- 17:09If you go in playing the righteous westerner versus the
- 17:12corrupt local, you have already lost.
- 17:15You have to go in as a fellow Sinner.
- 17:17Step 2 Assess the evidence. The author warns against playing
- 17:21detective. This is such practical advice.
- 17:23Suspicion destroys trust. If you are 80% sure but not
- 17:26100%, do not accuse. First Corinthians 6.7 says it is
- 17:30better to be wrong than to drag things into a mess or falsely
- 17:33accuse a brother. If the evidence isn't clear, you
- 17:35swallow the loss and trust God. You don't set traps, you don't
- 17:38spy. You assume the best until proven
- 17:41otherwise. But let's say the evidence is
- 17:43clear. You caught him, he confesses.
- 17:46Step 3 is confrontation and restoration, and this is where
- 17:49the missing link comes in. The author says many
- 17:52missionaries stop at forgiveness and that is a mistake.
- 17:55Right. They say I forgive you and they
- 17:57try to move on. But the national leader is left
- 17:59with shame. He knows he broke trust.
- 18:01The congregation knows if you just say forgiven without a
- 18:05plan, the relationship limps along.
- 18:07The elephant is always in the room.
- 18:09You need a plan of reconciliation.
- 18:11What does that look? Like.
- 18:11It looks like restitution that is biblical.
- 18:15Zacchaeus paid back fourfold. Restitution restores dignity
- 18:18because it allows the offender to make things right.
- 18:20It empowers them to fix what they broke.
- 18:23It might involve public repentance if the theft affected
- 18:26the church, and it involves discipleship tasks.
- 18:30So the goal isn't punishment, it is not about making him pay
- 18:34because you are angry. No, the goal is to get him back
- 18:37to being above reproach. I see you want him to lead again
- 18:39one day. The plan provides a road map out
- 18:42of shame and back into honor. It says we are going to walk
- 18:46this road together until you are restored.
- 18:49That is deep, costly love. Speaking of honor, that
- 18:53transitions us perfectly to our first specific cultural
- 18:56challenge. Shame honor cultures.
- 18:59This comes from the insert by Sean Ransom on the Philippines.
- 19:02This is fascinating in a shame honor culture, which covers much
- 19:06of Asia In the Middle East, the highest value is maintaining
- 19:09face, social standing, reputation, harmony.
- 19:13The worst evil is causing shame. Confrontation is seen as
- 19:17inherently shameful. So the case study A church in
- 19:20the Philippines. A group of members gets
- 19:22disgruntled with the elders. They want to change the
- 19:24governance. The elders say no.
- 19:26The group gets angry. They start slandering the elders
- 19:28online, spreading rumors, calling them names.
- 19:31No. In a Western context, we might
- 19:32expect the elders to call a meeting, present the facts, and
- 19:35hash it out. Right, get to the bottom of it.
- 19:38We value getting to the bottom of it.
- 19:41But here the elders did what their culture told them to do.
- 19:45Nothing. They stayed silent.
- 19:46They thought they were being noble, right?
- 19:48They thought we don't want to cause a scene, We don't want to
- 19:50shame these people. We would just suffer in silence
- 19:52and hope they stop. They feared the shame of a fight
- 19:55more than they feared the damage of the lie.
- 19:58They were prioritizing smooth interpersonal relationships,
- 20:01often called Sir in Philippine sociology.
- 20:04And what happened? The wolves controlled the
- 20:07narrative because the elders didn't speak.
- 20:10The congregation only heard the slander.
- 20:13The church eventually split. That is a tragedy, and it is a
- 20:16tragedy caused by a cultural virtue keeping the peace,
- 20:20becoming an idol. Precisely.
- 20:22The Bible has a lot to say about this.
- 20:24Look at Titus. Paul is writing to Titus and
- 20:27Crete. Cretan culture was rough.
- 20:29I remember this. Paul quotes their own poet,
- 20:31calling them liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.
- 20:34Not exactly a flattering description.
- 20:36Paul wasn't winning any diplomacy awards there.
- 20:38No, and notice Paul doesn't say Titus.
- 20:41Be sensitive to their culture, Don't offend them.
- 20:43You know lying is just their way of storytelling, he says in
- 20:47Titus 1.13. Reprove them severely.
- 20:50That sounds. That is the word.
- 20:53Other translations say sharply. Why?
- 20:56So that they may be sound in the faith.
- 20:59The biblical logic is it is better to have a moment of sharp
- 21:02shame that leads to repentance than to have a comfortable
- 21:05silence that leads to spiritual. Death Gransom makes a powerful
- 21:09point here. More relationships are destroyed
- 21:12by inaction and fear of man than by biblical discipline.
- 21:15That is the headline. We think we are saving
- 21:17relationships by not confronting.
- 21:19We tell ourselves we are being kind.
- 21:21We are actually letting the relationships rot.
- 21:24In a shame honor culture, the missionary or the faithful
- 21:26national leader has to redefine honor.
- 21:30True honor is obeying God and protecting the sheep from
- 21:32wolves, even if it feels shameful in the moment to call
- 21:35out the wolf. That is a hard shift to make.
- 21:37It requires rewiring your entire social operating system.
- 21:41Let's move to the second challenge, age and hierarchy.
- 21:44This comes from Young U Cho in South Korea.
- 21:46South Korea is deeply influenced by Confucianism.
- 21:50Age and seniority define everything.
- 21:52You use different language for someone older than you.
- 21:55The senior pastor is often seen as a king or a father figure.
- 21:59And the conflict here arises between the biblical idea of
- 22:02plurality of elders and the cultural idea of one big boss.
- 22:07Exactly. The Bible teaches that eldership
- 22:09is a plurality. It is a team.
- 22:12Peter James, Paul Barnabas. They made decisions together in
- 22:15Acts 15, right? They debated.
- 22:17They prayed. It wasn't just one CEO making
- 22:19the call. But in the Korean context, Cho
- 22:22describes a scenario where you might have a senior pastor who's
- 22:2535 years old and elders who are 70.
- 22:28And that is socially awkward. The seven-year old elders might
- 22:30pat the pastor on the head and say, I am so proud of you, my
- 22:33son. Oh, that's.
- 22:34Yeah. It is patronizing.
- 22:35Or conversely, if you have a young elder and an older elder,
- 22:38the young guy cannot correct the older guy without seeming
- 22:41incredibly arrogant and rude. So you end up with a one man
- 22:44ministry. The senior pastor holds all the
- 22:46power, or the oldest man holds all the power, and the spiritual
- 22:49gifts of the rest of the team are suppressed.
- 22:51Which is a huge loss for the church.
- 22:54If the Holy Spirit has gifted a 30 year old with wisdom, but the
- 22:57culture says be quiet until you were 60, the church loses that
- 23:01wisdom. The body is handicapped by the
- 23:04culture. So what is the biblical
- 23:05correction? Because you cannot just ignore
- 23:07age. The Bible also says to honor the
- 23:09elderly. It does, but it goes back to
- 23:11First Timothy. 4 Timothy was young.
- 23:13He was an Ephesus of a major city with likely many older,
- 23:16wealthy converts. And Paul tells him, let no one
- 23:20look down on your youthfulness. How does he do that?
- 23:22By demanding respect? By wearing a fake beard.
- 23:25No, by showing yourself as a model, speech, conduct, love,
- 23:29faith, purity. Paul basically says your
- 23:32spiritual authority does not come from your birth
- 23:34certificate, it comes from your character.
- 23:36So the young leader has to take pains.
- 23:39That is, the phrase used to be so godly, so exemplary, that his
- 23:42character overrides the cultural stigma of his age.
- 23:45Yes, he has to prove his maturity through his life, and
- 23:49the older men have to submit to the Word, which says that the
- 23:52Spirit distributes gifts as he wills, not strictly by
- 23:55seniority. It requires a mutual submission
- 23:58that cuts against the grain of Confucian hierarchy.
- 24:01The older men have to humble themselves to listen to a
- 24:04younger man, and the younger man has to live a life worthy of
- 24:07that listening. This brings us to a really
- 24:09important synthesis. We have looked at door
- 24:13etiquette, Filipino shame, and Korean age structures, but the
- 24:18thread running through all of this is what?
- 24:20The thread is that Scripture judges culture, always.
- 24:23It judges Western individualism just as much as it judges
- 24:26Eastern collectivism. The missionary, and let's be
- 24:29real, the listener right now driving to work must identify
- 24:32where their own cultural instincts are fighting against
- 24:35God's commands regarding conflict.
- 24:36That is the key. We are not just analyzing them
- 24:39over there, we are analyzing us. Right here exactly.
- 24:42If you are in the West, your idol might not be honor or age.
- 24:46It might be privacy. It might be tolerance.
- 24:48Oh, that's good. How many of us refuse to
- 24:51confront a sinning brother because it is none of my
- 24:54business? That is a cultural idol.
- 24:56The Bible makes it your business.
- 24:58We say live and let live. The Bible says if your brother
- 25:00wanders, bring him back. Or tolerance, the idea that
- 25:03affirming someone is the only way to love them.
- 25:05Right. And biblical love says I love
- 25:08you enough to tell you the truth, even if it hurts.
- 25:10It says I value your soul more than I value my comfort.
- 25:14We also have to connect this back to the gospel we talked
- 25:16about Edwards earlier. We can only do this hard work of
- 25:19confrontation and reconciliation because of what Christ did.
- 25:22It is the fuel. We can only forgive because we
- 25:26were forgiven a debt we could not pay.
- 25:28Amen. We can only reconcile because
- 25:29Christ reconciled us to the Father.
- 25:32He took the initiative. He crossed the ultimate cultural
- 25:35barrier, divine to human, to make peace.
- 25:37He was the offended party, yet He paid the cost.
- 25:41If he did that for us, we have no excuse not to do it for our
- 25:44brother. And that takes the burden off
- 25:46us. It is not about me being a big
- 25:48person. It is about me being a forgiven
- 25:51person. I am just passing on what I
- 25:53received. Amen.
- 25:55It reorients conflict from a battle for supremacy into an
- 25:59opportunity for grace. So as we wrap up, we always like
- 26:03to leave you with a provocative thought, something to chew on
- 26:06that we haven't explicitly said but is lurking in the
- 26:09background. Here is what I am thinking.
- 26:12We have talked a lot about speaking up, about confronting,
- 26:15about the danger of silence in the Philippines.
- 26:19But I want to flip it for a second.
- 26:21In our current cultural moment, especially online but also in
- 26:24our churches, we are obsessed with being right and calling
- 26:27people out. The Discernment Industrial
- 26:29Complex. Everyone is a watchdog.
- 26:31Right. But remember the doorway
- 26:33illustration, the Zulu man and the Africans woman, neither of
- 26:37them was sinning, they just had different scripts, right?
- 26:40I wonder how many conflicts in your life right now, maybe with
- 26:43your spouse, your boss, your neighbor are not actually issues
- 26:46of sin, but issues of scripts. Oh, that is good.
- 26:49Are you about to rebuke someone for being rude when they are
- 26:52actually trying to be protective?
- 26:53Are you attributing malice to what is actually just
- 26:56difference? We need the wisdom to
- 26:59distinguish between a sin that demands Titus one's severe
- 27:02rebuke, and a difference that demands first Peter 4 love
- 27:05covers. That requires humility, and it
- 27:08requires asking questions before we start shooting.
- 27:12Why did you do that instead of? I can't believe you did that.
- 27:16Curiosity before judgment. That is a good rule for missions
- 27:19and a good rule for life. Well, that is all the time we
- 27:21have for this deep dive. We hope this challenged you to
- 27:24look at your conflicts differently, whether you are in
- 27:26Manila, Seoul or just the suburbs.
- 27:28Remember, the goal is not just peace and quiet.
- 27:31The goal is the glory of God through reconciled
- 27:33relationships. Thanks for listening to Reformed
- 27:36Thinking. We'll catch you on the next deep
- 27:38dive. Grace and peace.