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Mom of 4 Executes Baby Daddy In Front Of Cops · Murder Files Unsealed

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  Speaker 1: Imagine you follow the rules perfectly right, like to the letter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do exactly what society tells you to.
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  Speaker 1: Do, exactly. Your ex partner threatens your life, so instead
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  of going home, you wait in.
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  Speaker 2: Your car, which is the textbook right answer, right, You.
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  Speaker 1: Call line one one, you wait, you call them again.
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  You even trigger your own home burglar alarm, just to
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  force the police to dispatch someone.
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  Speaker 2: You are doing everything possible to avoid a physical confrontation.
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  Speaker 1: And your reward for following all those rules a twenty
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  year sentence.
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  Speaker 2: It is just it's a devastating paradox.
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  Speaker 1: Today we are dissecting how the legal definition of self
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  defense can take a victim's desperate cry for help and
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  just you know, contort it into a confession of murder.
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  Speaker 2: We are looking at the State of Georgia versus quenty
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  sh Johnson. It's a case from November twenty twenty two
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  that really forces us to question the actual mechanics of
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  our justice system.
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  Speaker 1: Because it is incredibly complex.
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  Speaker 2: It is when you look at the source material for
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  this deep dive, the trial transcripts, the dispatch logs, the
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  police bodycam audio, the doorbell surveillance expiracy, you do not
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  see a clean narrative.
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  Speaker 1: Right, there's no perfect victim here.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, nor is there a cartoonish cold blooded killer. You
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  see a catastrophic collision of trauma, split second decisions, and
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  this rigid legal framework that demands objective clarity from a
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  situation that is just dominated by subjective terror.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this because this isn't just about what
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  happened on Edenbury Lane in Lithonia, Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's much bigger than that.
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  Speaker 1: It is a master class in how self defense laws
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  actually operate in practice versus how we imagine them in theory.
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  And you listening to this right now, I want you
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  to put yourself right there in the jury box.
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  Speaker 2: It's the only way to really grasp it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to navigate evidence that completely contradicts itself,
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  depending on which angle you view it from. But to
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  do that, we have to understand the pressure cooker that
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  was created long before a single shot was fired.
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  Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is how the baseline pressure is just immense.
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  To understand the explosion, you have to measure that pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Let's look at Kwani Shah Johnson's reality in late twenty
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  twenty two.
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  Speaker 2: She was thirty years old, originally from Philadelphia, which is
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  important because it means her familial support network was physically
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  far away.
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  Speaker 1: Right, she's isolated in the Atlanta area exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And she's working as a behavioral health technician, which.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that profession alone requires a massive amount of
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  emotional regulation. It is an exhausting job, it really is.
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  Speaker 2: But more importantly, she is a mother of four, four kids, yes,
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  and one of those children is a two month old infant.
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  Speaker 1: I really want to pause and just drill down into
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  that specific detail, because two months postpartum isn't just a timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Marker, absolutely not. It's a physiological state, right, It is a.
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  Speaker 1: Psychological state of being. You are operating on totally fragmented.
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  Speaker 2: Sleep, your hormone levels are fluctuating wildly, You're.
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  Speaker 1: Balancing a full time job with the relentless demands of
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  a newborn plus three older kids. And on top of
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  all that, she is the sole leaseholder of this three bedroom,
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  two story rental home.
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  Speaker 2: She is holding the entire structural integrity of that family
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  together by herself.
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  Speaker 1: The utilities, the rent, the food, The financial gravity rests
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  squarely on her shoulders.
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  Speaker 2: Which makes her next decision the critical inflection point of
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  this entire tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the decision to let him move in.
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  Speaker 2: Right, just thirty days before the fatal incident, Kwanisha allows
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  her former romantic partner, a twenty nine year old man
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  named Demante Smith, to move into.
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  Speaker 1: Her home, and Dimantes's situation is well, it's the polar
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  opposite of stability completely.
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  Speaker 2: He has three children of his own, though they don't
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  live there. He is drowning in financial debt.
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  Speaker 1: And severe legal troubles. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he had recently been released from prison on a
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  felony charge. He essentially had nowhere else to go.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I have to stop you there, because this is
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  the exact moment where a jury and probably anyone listening
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  right now, just throws their hands up in confusion.
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  Speaker 2: It's the classic why did she like him? In question?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly from a layman's perspective, you have this independent, financially
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  solvent woman. She works in behavioral health, so she ugably
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  has professional training in recognizing toxic.
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  Speaker 2: Patterns, right, I would think so, Yes, she just.
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  Speaker 1: Had a baby. Why on earth would she voluntarily introduce
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  a volatile, recently released felon into her sanctuary. It defies
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  all logic of self preservation.
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  Speaker 2: It defies logic if you view human relationships through the
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  lens of like a business contract, right, But domestic dynamics
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  operate on a completely different psychological currency. If we connect
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  this to the bigger picture, you have to look at
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  the mechanics of trauma bonding and the exploitation of empathy.
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  Speaker 1: So abusers leveraging vulnerability.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely, abusers don't typically walk in and announce their bad intentions.
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  Demante was destitute for a victim, especially one who shares
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  history or potentially a child with the abuser, and there
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  are conflicting reports in the sources over whether Demante was
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  a bio iiological father of the two month old. The
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  guilt of leaving someone completely homeless can override their own
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  safety instincts.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like a savior complex, but it's weaponized against
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  her exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Abusers cultivate a dynamic where the victim feels solely responsible
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  for the abuser's survival. She knows he has a record,
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  she knows he's volatile, but.
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  Speaker 1: She feels she has to manage it right.
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  Speaker 2: The psychological conditioning of that relationship makes her believe that
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  if he ends up back in prison or dead on
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  the street. It is somehow her fault for not providing
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  a roof over his head.
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  Speaker 1: And the isolation plays into that too, right since her
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  family is up in Philly.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, she might have felt she couldn't turn to her
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  family to intervene, so she absorbed his chaos because she
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  was conditioned to believe she could handle it.
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  Speaker 1: But the reality is she couldn't handle it because the
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  source material shows that almost the minute he unloads his bags,
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  the environment becomes toxic.
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  Speaker 2: Extremely toxic. They are constantly bickering and.
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  Speaker 1: Demanti isn't just being difficult, he is actively threatening her
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  with physical harm. And it's not just empty words, is it.
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  Speaker 2: Now? It escalated physically the week of November sixth, which
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  is just two weeks prior to the shooting, a verbal
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  argument gets out at hand and he forcefully grabs her
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  and slams her to the ground.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that right there, that physical escalation, that has to
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  be huge for the legal concept of self defense.
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  Speaker 2: Later on, it is paramount in the eyes of the law.
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  A prior act of unprovoked physical violence establishes a baseline
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  of reasonable.
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  Speaker 1: Fear because he proved he would actually do.
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  Speaker 2: It exactly when he slammed her to the ground. He
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  proved that his threats were not hypothetical. He proved he
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  possessed both the capacity and the willingness to inflict severe bodily.
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  Speaker 1: Harm, so that history becomes the lens through which every
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  single subsequent action has to be viewed.
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  Speaker 2: It does, which brings us to the inciting incident.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's the evening of November twenty sixth, exactly two
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  weeks after she was physically assaulted.
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  Speaker 2: Quanisha is invited out to a nightclub in Atlanta for
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  a friend's birthday.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just think about this for a second. She's ignant
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  for nine months, she works full time, She's dealing with
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  an abusive ex con in her house. She decides, you
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  know what, I Am taking one night for myself and she.
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  Speaker 2: Leaves her children, including the infant, at the house with Demante.
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  Speaker 1: She tells him she will be back by six u am.
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  Speaker 2: And that night out immediately becomes the battleground for the
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  two competing narratives at trial.
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  Speaker 1: Because things go off the rails pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 2: They do. During the evening, Kwanishit texts Damante. She tells
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  him her group got into a shouting match with some
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  other people.
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  Speaker 1: At the club, and she drops a location pin to
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  his phone right right to show him where they.
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  Speaker 2: Are moving to Yes, to keep him updated. But shortly
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  after that, her cell phone battery dies. She goes entirely dark.
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  Speaker 1: So six point h am comes and goes. Demante is
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  sitting in that house with the kids, and he just
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  starts spiraling.
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  Speaker 2: The logs show that at first he's actually worried. He
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  knows about the shouting match at the club, so he's
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  calling local hospitals, he's calling jails trying to find her.
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  Speaker 1: He even calls her aunts Rochelle and Andrea up in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: But as the hours tick by, that anxiety ferments into
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  sheer rage. He feels disrespected, he feels like she's making
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  a hold of him.
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  Speaker 1: So by nine zero am, Quinny, she finally gets back
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  to her vehicle. She plugs her phone into the charger
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  and it powers on, and she.
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  Speaker 2: Is instantly met with just a barrage of text messages
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  from Demante.
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  Speaker 1: And these aren't just like angry where are you texts? No.
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  Speaker 2: One of them explicitly reads when you get home, I'm
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  going to beat your ass.
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  Speaker 1: On crip on, crip I mean that is a guaranteed
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  gang affiliated promise of severe physical violence waiting for her.
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  The moment she walks through.
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  Speaker 2: Her door, she sees these texts and immediately calls her
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  ants in Philly, who have obviously been frantic, and the.
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  Speaker 1: Ants conference Demante in on a three way call, and.
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  Speaker 2: That is when Demante completely loses whatever restrain he had left.
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  Speaker 1: The ants later testified about this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, they testified that they heard him screaming through the phone,
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  where the have have you been? And when you get home,
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  I'm going to f you up, screaming.
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  Speaker 1: These violent threats while her family is actively listening.
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  Speaker 2: Now, let's step back and look at how the legal
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  system metabolizes this exact morning.
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  Speaker 1: Right, because the lawyers use this to frame the whole case.
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  Speaker 2: Before a jury even looks at the forensic evidence of
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  a shooting. Prosecutors and defense attorneys use these preliminary events
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  to build character framing.
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  Speaker 1: The prosecution really jumped on this, didn't they.
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  Speaker 2: They did. They engineered a narrative of negligence. They stood
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  in front of the jury and basically asked, if this
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  woman is genuinely terrified of this man, if she truly
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  believes he's a violent monster, why on earth did she
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  abandon her newborn baby and three other children with him
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  overnight so she could go clubbing until nine point zero
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  in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, it's an incredibly potent emotional argument. They are trying
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  to sever her connection to that archetype of the protective mother.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. It's about stripping away sympathy if they can make
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  the jury dislike her as a parent. They lowered the
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  psychological hurdle for convicting.
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  Speaker 1: Her of murder, but the defense countered that right.
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  Speaker 2: They hounded with a narrative of exhaustion and trauma. They
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  argued that this was a mother who was drowning in responsibilities,
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  who simply wanted a few hours of normalcy.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't abandon anyone, she communicated her location, she checked in,
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  and she was simply the victim of a dead phone battery.
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  Speaker 2: Right. They argued that punishing a mother for taking a
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  night off is a misogynistic double standard, and it distracts
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  from the undeniable fact that she was being actively threatened
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  with extreme violence.
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  Speaker 1: And this is where the story should have ended, honestly,
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  with a police intervention. It really should have, because what
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  Kuanisha does next after hearing those threats on the three
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  way call is exactly what the system demands of us.
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  We are constantly told, you know, don't take the law
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  into your own hands, call the authorities, let the police
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  handle it.
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  Speaker 2: And she attempts to do exactly that, not once.
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  Speaker 1: But four separate times. And the bureaucratic failure of the
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  system at this juncture is absolutely staggering.
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  Speaker 2: Let's trace the mechanics of that failure because it fundamentally
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  alters her legal standing later.
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  Speaker 1: On, Okay, walk me through the timeline.
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  Speaker 2: Her first attempt happens while she is driving back to Lithonia.
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  She calls nine to one one.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: She informs the dispatcher that she is receiving violent threats
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  from her baby's father, that he is at her home
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  with her children, and that she is terrified to enter
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  the house alone. She formally requests a police escort and
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  the dispatcher agrees.
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  Speaker 1: Right, they initiate a call for.
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  Speaker 2: Service, Yes, Kanisha tells them she is still about thirty
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  minutes away, so.
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  Speaker 1: The system works initially, but then comes attempt number two.
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  She gets closer to the neighborhood, but she doesn't call
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  nine to one one this time.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, now, police officer actually calls her directly on
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  her cell phone. He got her number from dispatch, drove
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  to her house and realized she wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: Yet, and she begs him on the phone. She says,
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  I'm ten maybe fifteen minutes away. Please don't leave.
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  Speaker 2: And what does the officer say. He says, I have
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  to take another call. I've been dispatched somewhere else. Do
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  not go into the home. Just wait.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a critical breakdown in triage protocols.
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  Speaker 2: In nine one one dispatch systems, calls are prioritized by
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  immediate active violence. Because Demante was inside the house and
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  Quanisha was not yet on the scene, there was no
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  active violence occurring in that exact second, so.
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  Speaker 1: The officer is pulled away to a higher priority call.
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  Speaker 2: From a purely administrative standpoint, the system prioritized efficiency over
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  her specific safety.
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  Speaker 1: But for Quinisha, the mandate was clear. The police ordered
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  her to wait, and she obeyed. She literally parked her
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  car in a cul de sac down the street from our.
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  Speaker 2: House, which leads to attempt number three. She's sitting in
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  her car, staring at her own street. She calls nine
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  to one one again from the cul de sac.
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  Speaker 1: She explicitly tells the dispatcher, I'm the woman waiting for
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  the police escort. The officer told me not to go inside.
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  I'm still receiving threats. I am terrified.
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  Speaker 2: And what happens nothing.
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  Speaker 1: She sits there in total.
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  Speaker 2: Isolation, and we really have to analyze the psychological toll
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  of that waiting period. She knows her newborn is in
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  that house with a man who is currently enraged.
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  Speaker 1: Every minute that passes the court as all is spiking,
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  the fear is calcifying into pure desperation.
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  Speaker 2: Desperation that drives attempt number four, which honestly blew my
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  mind when I read the logs.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, this part is wild. Here's where it gets really interesting.
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  She realizes the public nine one one system is completely
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  ignoring her, so from her car, using her phone, she
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  remotely triggers the burglar alarm inside her own house.
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  Speaker 2: She intentionally sets off the alarm so that her private
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  security monitoring company will call.
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  Speaker 1: Her yes, and when they do, she tells them police
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  to specch a police officer immediately. I cannot go inside.
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  He's threatening me.
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  Speaker 2: She essentially uses capitalism, a paid private service, to force
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  the public police department to respond and.
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  Speaker 1: Even that isn't fast enough. She finally just puts her
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  car in drive, patrols her own neighborhood, and physically flags
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  down a passing police cruiser, just begging them to follow
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  her to the driveway.
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  Speaker 2: Now, look at how the defense utilizes this timeline in court.
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  In the state of Georgia, under the standard ground legal framework,
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  Kwanisha Johnson had absolutely no legal duty to retreat.
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  Speaker 1: Wait really, so she didn't have to wait outside, no.
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  Speaker 2: Legal obligation to wait in her car whatsoever. She could
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  have legally driven straight to her house, walked through her
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  front door, and if Demante moved to attack her, she
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  could have met him with deadly force right then and there.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: The defense argued that her extreme reluctance to enter that house,
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  spending hours in a cul de sac, making four distinct
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  pleas for armed intervention, proves definitively that she lacked the
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  malice required for murder. She did not want a confrontation.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you the listener, you're probably yelling at your steering
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  wheel right now, Like she did everything right, How on
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  earth does a prosecutor look at a woman hiding in
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  a cul de sac begging for cops and convince a jury,
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  she's the aggressor.
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  Speaker 2: But this is where the surgical precision of a prosecutor
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  comes in. They found a crack in that timeline.
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  Speaker 1: They found a single devastating.
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  Speaker 2: Sentence during that third nine to one to one call,
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  when she was sitting in the cul de sac. The
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  prosecution elect that Quanisha said to the dispatcher, I'm not
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  worried for my safety.
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  Speaker 1: That makes zero sense. Why would you call nine one
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  one to ask for an armed escort just to say
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  you aren't worried?
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  Speaker 2: Because trauma and human communication are messy.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Perhaps she meant I'm not in immediate physical danger right
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  the second because I'm in my locked car, Or perhaps
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  she was just trying to sound calm to keep the
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  dispatcher engaged.
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  Speaker 1: But prosecutors do not deal in the nuance of trauma.
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  Speaker 2: No, they deal in the literal interpretation of recorded statements.
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  The legal justification for using deadly force requires that you
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  are in imminent fear of death or great bodily harm.
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  Speaker 1: So the prosecution hammered this contradition in front of the jury.
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  They said, how can this woman claim she was paralyzed
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  by mortal terror when we have her on tape telling
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  the police she wasn't worried.
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  Speaker 2: It is a classic strategy to dismantle the foundation of
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  a self defense claim by using the defendant's own inexact
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  freezing against them.
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  Speaker 1: It just shows how perilous every word you speak on
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  real corded line can be. Absolutely but eventually her persistence
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  pays off somewhat. She manages to corral two deputies. They
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  follow her to Eanbury Lane. The climax is finally.
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  Speaker 2: Here, but the irony is the arrival of the police
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  doesn't de escalate the situation, It acts as an accelerant.
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  Speaker 1: Quinetia pulls into the driveway with these two deputies and
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  almost instantly Demante walks out the front door, and he
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  is holding their two month old baby.
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  Speaker 2: And we have to note the environmental conditions here. It
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  is late November in Georgia. The temperature is hovering around
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  sixty degrees, which is quite chilly. Yeah, and the two
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  month old infant in Demantes's arms is wearing nothing but
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  a diaper.
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  Speaker 1: You can just imagine the visceral biological reaction of a
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  postpartu mother seeing her infant exposed to the cold in
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  the arms of the man who has been threatening her
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  all morning.
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  Speaker 2: Quneha is absolutely infuriating.
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  Speaker 1: A massive screaming match erupts right there in the driveway,
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  completely ignoring the fact that two armed deputies are standing
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  right next to them.
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  Speaker 2: The deputies the man Damante handed the baby over. Guanichha
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  demands the baby. Demante refuses.
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  Speaker 1: The police reports from this specific moment are vital, aren't they.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, The deputies officially documented that in this driveway confrontation,
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  Quanichha was acting significantly more aggressive than Demante.
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  Speaker 1: And this change is the optic of the scene. She
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  is no longer the cowering victim waiting in the cul
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  de sac. She is visibly enraged, taking the offensive verbally.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't just yell. She hits him where it hurts
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  the most.
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  Speaker 1: Right. She starts taunting him about his deepest insecurity. She yells,
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  that's not even your baby, You're not even on the birthday.
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  I'm going to disapear again her three hours. What are
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  you going to do then?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is wildly reckless behavior.
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  Speaker 1: It is reckless, and from a legal perspective, it is catastrophic.
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  Speaker 2: Because self defense hinges on the concept of being an
• 17:47
  unwilling participant in violence. If a jury sees you actively
• 17:51
  provoking the person you claim to be terrified of. It
• 17:54
  severely undermines the narrative that you were desperately trying to
• 17:57
  avoid a.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Fight right by taunting him about paternity and threatening to
• 18:01
  abandon him again, she is pouring gasoline on a fire
• 18:05
  she later claims she was trying to put out.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Recognizing that this is spiraling out of control, the deputies intervene.
• 18:10
  They order the two of them to separate.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: They tell him built to go inside the house, cool off,
• 18:15
  and separate into different rooms. Demonte complies. He turns around
• 18:19
  with the baby and heads back inside, but.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Before Quantie Shall follows him in, the police body camera
• 18:24
  captures a hot mic moment that arguably changes the entire
• 18:27
  trajectory of her life.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, Quantie Should turns to one of the deputies, Officer Lamby,
• 18:32
  and makes a statement, knowing she is speaking to law enforcement,
• 18:35
  knowing she's likely being recorded, She says, so when I
• 18:39
  shoot him, and I need all.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: The pass I just I struggle to comprehend the sheer
• 18:44
  audacity or the sheer detachment required.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: To say that put yourself in her shoes. You just
• 18:49
  spent hours begging for police protection. When they arrive, You
• 18:54
  don't show them the text that says I'm going to
• 18:55
  beat your ass. You don't tell them, Hey, this guy
• 18:58
  is a felon with a history of violence who slammed
• 19:00
  me to the ground two weeks ago.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: You taunt him, and then you casually announced to an
• 19:05
  armed police officer that you're going to shoot him and
• 19:07
  you want to pass for it.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Officer Lamby immediately recognizes the legal peril of that statement.
• 19:14
  He warns her, explicitly stating that she had better be
• 19:16
  able to articulate that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Need, and in police parlance, articulate means she had better
• 19:21
  be able to satisfy the rigorous legal criteria for justifiable homicide.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: And Kwanisha confidently replies that she can't.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: This raises an important question. Why would anyone telegraph their
• 19:33
  intent to kill to a cop?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Right? It makes no sense.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Well, we have to understand the difference between the legal
• 19:39
  definition of imminence and the psychological reality of inevitability.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: In Kanisha's mind, based on the cycle of abuse, the
• 19:47
  violence wasn't a possibility, it was an inevitability. She knew
• 19:50
  the moment those police cars drove away, the door would
• 19:53
  close and he would make good on his promise to
• 19:55
  beat her.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: So she was broadcasting her survival strategy exactly.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: But the law does not allow you to preemptively kill
• 20:03
  someone because you know they will hurt you in the future.
• 20:06
  The law requires an imminent threat, meaning the attack is
• 20:09
  happening right now, in this exact second, and you have
• 20:12
  no other choice. Right by saying when I shoot him,
• 20:15
  before Demante has even laid a hand on her that day,
• 20:18
  she transforms her action from a spontaneous, reflexive defense into
• 20:22
  a premeditated plan.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: She is announcing an intent to initiate deadly force, which
• 20:28
  legally transitions her from a defensive victim to an offensive aggressor.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: And what makes this so much worse is the police response.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, after hearing a resident announce her
• 20:38
  intent to shoot the man inside, and after witnessing a
• 20:41
  highly volatile domestic dispute over a newborn in the cold,
• 20:45
  the deputies don't follow them in.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: They decide to position their patrol vehicles nearby and just
• 20:49
  wait outside.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: They essentially walk away from a lit fuse. They are
• 20:54
  completely blind to the absolute chaos that is about to
• 20:58
  erupt inside that home.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Because the moment Quantisha is out of the deputy site.
• 21:02
  Her actions heavily support the prosecution's theory of premeditation.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Instead of going straight into the house to de escalate
• 21:08
  or check on the baby, she detours to her truck
• 21:11
  and she retrieves weapons, not just one, but two.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: She grabs a firearm, which she places in her pocket,
• 21:17
  and she arms herself with a metal tire iron.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Let's analyze that mechanically. If you are terrified of a
• 21:22
  sudden legal attack, grabbing a gun makes sense, right right.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: A firearm is a distance weapon. It stops a threat
• 21:29
  before it reaches you.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: But grabbing a metal tire iron, in addition to a
• 21:32
  gun that implies you are anticipating or perhaps preparing to
• 21:36
  initiate a close quarter's physical brawl. You are equipping yourself
• 21:41
  for multiple phases of combat.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Exactly. It shows a tactical preparation that undercuts the idea
• 21:46
  of sudden, blinding panic.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: But the most chilling preparation involves her seven year old daughter.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, before she confronts Demante, Quenisia finds her older daughter.
• 21:56
  She explicitly instructs the seven year old to call nine
• 21:59
  one one, and she coaches the child on what to say.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: She tells the little girl to tell the dispatcher that
• 22:04
  Damante hit her. She is pre loading an alibi of
• 22:08
  domestic battery before the physical altercation has even commenced.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: That is just a profound layer of tragedy. You are
• 22:15
  pulling a seven year old child into the machinery of
• 22:18
  a violent crime.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: And the prosecution actually played that nine when one call
• 22:21
  in court, the jury had to sit there and listen
• 22:23
  to this young girl on the phone with dispatch. And
• 22:26
  in the background of that call, you can hear the
• 22:28
  audio of Quenisia going upstairs to confront Demanta.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Based on the forensic evidence and the sequence of events
• 22:34
  laid out by the district attorney, the confrontation was fast
• 22:37
  and brutal.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Quanisia strikes Dimante in the head with the metal tire iron,
• 22:42
  and then she draws the firearm and shoots the once
• 22:45
  in the chest.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: We don't have to guess what happened immediately after the
• 22:48
  gunshot because the doorbell surveillance camera captures it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: The footage shows Demante stumbling out the front door. He's
• 22:55
  bleeding heavily. He makes his way down the driveway toward
• 22:58
  the deputies, who are still parked outside.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: And he makes a dying declaration on the police body camera.
• 23:03
  He looks at the officer and says, she hit me
• 23:05
  with the metal thing first, bro, and then she shot me.
• 23:08
  Hurry up before I die.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: He collapses right there, is transported to the hospital and
• 23:13
  later succumbs to that gunshot wound.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But the surveillance audio captures something else as he is
• 23:18
  struggling to get out of the front door, something the
• 23:21
  prosecution use as the cornerstone of their argument regarding her
• 23:24
  state of mind.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: As Demante is mortally wounded and trying to flee, Quanichha
• 23:29
  is heard repeatedly saying bye to him, just a flat
• 23:32
  taunting bye, hey bye. It is blood chilling.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: And the bizarre timing of everything Right after the gunshot
• 23:38
  and Uber pulls up to the house. It turns out
• 23:41
  Demante's ex girlfriend had ordered him an Uber so he
• 23:44
  could escape the escalating situation.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: It arrived just a few minutes too late to save
• 23:48
  his life. This is the moment where we have to
• 23:51
  ask the most difficult question of this case. When does
• 23:54
  legitimate trauma induced fear mutate into vindictive retaliation.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: If you are acting purely in self preservation, Your physiological
• 24:03
  response is usually fight, flight, or freeze. Once the threat
• 24:07
  is neutralized, the typical response is shock or attempts to
• 24:11
  render aid or immediate calls for help.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: But the physical evidence here arming yourself with dual weapons,
• 24:17
  coaching a child to lie to dispatch, and taunting a
• 24:20
  dying man as he bleeds out paints a picture that
• 24:23
  diverges wildly from a terrified victim acting purely on instinct.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: It looks like a settling of scores, and.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: The collateral damage to that seven year old daughter played
• 24:31
  out in the most heartbreaking way.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: At trial, the prosecution hammered the coaching aspect. They eventually
• 24:36
  brought the young girl to the witness stand.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Initially, right after the incident, the child had told forensic
• 24:42
  interviewers that she saw her mother hit Demante.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: But when she was on the stand under oath in
• 24:46
  front of her mother, the child completely changed her story.
• 24:50
  She testified that Demante was the one who hit her
• 24:52
  mother with the poll.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: The prosecution had to gently guide the jury to realize
• 24:56
  that this child had been conditioned to lie to protect
• 24:59
  her mother from prison.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: The audio recordings were also a massive point of contention,
• 25:03
  as Cornyja emerged from the house after the shooting. Detectives
• 25:07
  and prosecutors claim they heard her say on the body cam,
• 25:10
  I told y'all I was going to do it.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: They tied this directly back to her hot mike statement
• 25:15
  of when I shoot him, it completed the loop of premeditation.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: However, the defense vehemently contested this. They hired audio experts
• 25:23
  and argued that she actually said I told y'all he
• 25:26
  was going to do it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: That single consonant and I versus A he represents the
• 25:31
  entire chasm between a confession of premeditated, cold blooded murder
• 25:35
  and a desperate validation of her prior Please for Pleae.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Protection, the jury had to listen to that distorted, chaotic
• 25:41
  audio clip over and over again and decide which reality
• 25:44
  they believed.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So we've walked through the blood and the chaos of
• 25:47
  Edinbury Lane. Now we have to transition to how the
• 25:49
  justice system actually processes that chaos.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: We are moving into the sterile, highly structure environment of
• 25:55
  the courtroom where lawyers have to take these fragmented, contradictory
• 25:59
  pieces of evidence and forge them into legally binding narratives.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And interestingly, the legal battle actually started before the jury
• 26:07
  was even selected with something called a stand your ground
• 26:10
  immunity hearing. Can you explain mechanically how that works? Because
• 26:14
  I think a lot of people misunderstand what standard ground
• 26:16
  actually means in a courtroom.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: It is a vital mechanism to understand. In states like
• 26:20
  Georgia that have robust stand your ground laws, the law
• 26:23
  doesn't just provide a defense at trial, it provides a
• 26:26
  mechanism to avoid trial entirely.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Really, how does that work?
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: If you use deadly force to defend yourself, you can
• 26:32
  petition a judge for a pre trial immunity hearing. In
• 26:36
  a normal criminal trial, the burden of proof is entirely
• 26:39
  on the state to prove you are guilty beyond a
• 26:42
  reasonable doubt. But in an immunity hearing, the burden shifts.
• 26:46
  The defendant must prove, usually by a preponderance of the evidence,
• 26:50
  that their use of deadly force was legally justified. If
• 26:54
  the judge agrees, you are granted total immunity from prosecution,
• 26:58
  the criminal charges are dismissed forever.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: So it's a massive gamble, but with a massive payoff.
• 27:04
  Judge Shandana Morris oversaw this specific hearing for Quaniesha the
• 27:09
  defense goes all in. They call four witnesses, and they
• 27:13
  even put Quaneesha herself on the stand to explain why
• 27:16
  she had to shoot.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: The state, confident in their evidence, only calls the lead
• 27:20
  detective to counter her narrative.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: But the strategy failed for the defense, didn't it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: It did because an immunity hearing requires the judge to
• 27:27
  look at the facts objectively, and Judge Morris looked at
• 27:30
  the undeniable inconsistencies, the I'm not worried nine one one call,
• 27:34
  the hot mic premeditation statement, the dual weapons, the coaching
• 27:37
  of the child, and the by audio.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: The judge ruled that the defense simply could not definitively
• 27:42
  prove as a matter of law that Kwanisha's actions were
• 27:45
  purely justifiable self defense.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: The waters were too murky. That ruling meant Kuwanish's fate
• 27:50
  would be handed over to a jury.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: So in August of twenty twenty three, the trial officially
• 27:54
  kicks off, and you have these two completely polarized legal
• 27:58
  frameworks clashing.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Execution's framework is that this was a calculated execution driven
• 28:03
  by a bruised ego.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: They argued she was humiliated when Demantes screamed threats at
• 28:08
  her while her family in Philadelphia listened. On the three
• 28:11
  way call.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: They highlighted a police interview conducted just a couple of
• 28:15
  hours before she arrived home, where she explicitly told detectives
• 28:19
  she was laughing off the threats and didn't take them seriously.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: They told the jury, this isn't battered woman syndrome. This
• 28:26
  is a woman whose pride was wounded, who decided to
• 28:28
  eliminate the source of her embarrassment.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Conversely, defense attorney Sterling had to construct a framework of
• 28:34
  systemic abandonment.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: His narrative focused on a terrified postpartum mother who was
• 28:40
  utterly failed by the institution's designed to protect her.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: He painted a picture of a woman who tried to
• 28:45
  follow the rules, who waited in her car for hours,
• 28:48
  who begged for intervention four distinct times, and who only
• 28:52
  snapped when the police effectively left her alone with a monster.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But then, right in the middle of this high stakes
• 28:57
  chess match, the prosecution makes a blunder. And it's not
• 29:01
  just a small mistake. It is a catastrophic procedural error
• 29:05
  that completely alters the jury's perception.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: It really was a huge misstep.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I want you to explain the mechanics of this, because
• 29:12
  it revolves around a rule of evidence regarding character. What
• 29:15
  exactly did the state do wrong here?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: The blunder involves a legal concept known as opening the door.
• 29:21
  Generally speaking, the rules of evidence are highly restrictive regarding
• 29:25
  the victim's past.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Like, you can't just bring up old crimes to make
• 29:29
  them look bad exactly.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: The defense is usually not allowed to introduce the victim's
• 29:33
  prior criminal history or bad character just to smear them
• 29:37
  and make the jury think they deserve to die. This
• 29:40
  is because a past criminal record is considered highly prejudicial.
• 29:44
  It biases the jury against the victim while having very
• 29:47
  little probative value regarding the specific facts of the day
• 29:50
  they were killed. Makes sense, However, there is a massive exception.
• 29:54
  If the prosecution brings a witness to the stand who
• 29:57
  testifies the victim was a peaceful, loving, upstanding citizen, the
• 30:02
  prosecution has officially opened the door to character evidence.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: By presenting a halo. They legally invite the defense to
• 30:09
  present the horns.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Precisely, and the prosecution walked right through that door. They
• 30:14
  called Demante's ex girlfriend to the witness stand, the same
• 30:17
  woman who ordered him the uber, and.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: During her direct examination, she starts describing Demante in these
• 30:23
  glowing terms. She tells the jury he was a great guy.
• 30:26
  She says he was always laughing, he was deeply caring,
• 30:29
  he was family oriented.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: She even affectionately mentions that his nickname was Dullo.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: The moment she said that defense attorney Sterling recognized the opportunity,
• 30:38
  he immediately objected and argued to Judge Morris that the
• 30:40
  state had just introduced positive character evidence.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: He argued that it was now fundamentally unfair to let
• 30:46
  the jury believe Demante was a peaceful family man without
• 30:49
  allowing the defense to rebut that claim with the reality
• 30:52
  of his.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Past, and Judge Morse agreed.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: The door was open, and what a dark room that
• 30:57
  door led to.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Suddenly, the jury, who up until now had only seen
• 31:01
  Demante as a bleeding victim on a driveway, gets to
• 31:04
  hear his extensive documented criminal rap sheet.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: They learn about his arrest in July of twenty twenty two,
• 31:10
  just months prior to his death, for a possession of
• 31:13
  marijuana with intent to distribute and crucial to this case,
• 31:16
  possession of a firearm during the commission of a felony.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: They learned that on the very day he was shot,
• 31:22
  he had active outstanding warrants for stalking and violating his probation.
• 31:26
  The jury's entire psychological framework of the victim shifted in
• 31:30
  an instant. He went from a tragic victim to a
• 31:33
  dangerous stalking filain.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: It was an immeasurable victory for the defense. It provided objective,
• 31:39
  state sanctioned proof that Quantysh's fear was entirely justified.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? The defense couldn't just
• 31:45
  rely on Demantes's rap sheet, right, They had to explain
• 31:48
  Quantysh's bizarre actions.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And to do that they took one of the biggest
• 31:51
  gambles in criminal law. They put the defendant on the
• 31:54
  witness stand.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Having a defendant testifying their own murder trial is incredibly
• 31:58
  rare because it exposes them to cross examination.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Right, it's extremely risky. But on direct examination, Kwanisha gets
• 32:06
  to speak directly to the jury. She gets to humanize
• 32:09
  her terror.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Her attorney asks her, what was going through your mind
• 32:13
  when you went in there? Why did you feel you
• 32:15
  had to use deadly force?
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: And her answer was raw. She testified that she knew
• 32:20
  Demante was furious that she had brought the cops to
• 32:22
  the house. She knew he had promised to beat her.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: She reminded the jury that he had slammed her to
• 32:27
  the ground just two weeks prior. She said she simply
• 32:31
  knew the violence was coming.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: But when her attorney asked her about the specific mechanics
• 32:35
  of the shooting, the tire iron, the gunshot, she utilized
• 32:38
  what is often called the blackout defense.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: She claimed her trauma overwhelmed her memory. She told the jury,
• 32:44
  I can't even tell you, honestly, I just know that
• 32:46
  I had to defend myself. It was a deeply emotional moment.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: But the blackout defense is a double edged sword. It
• 32:52
  explains away inconsistencies by blaming trauma and deuced amnesia, but
• 32:56
  it also frustrates a jury looking for concrete answers.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: And more importantly, the reward of humanizing the defendant on
• 33:03
  direct examination comes with a severe, unavoidable risk of cross
• 33:08
  examination by the state.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And the prosecutor was absolutely relentless. They did not care
• 33:12
  about her trauma. They cared about her actions.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: The state didn't let her hide behind the idea that
• 33:17
  she just blacked out. They played the audio of her
• 33:20
  saying bye to Demante as he was dying.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: They grilled her, if you blacked out in terror, why
• 33:26
  are you taunting a mortally wounded man.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: They forced her to admit under oath that she said
• 33:31
  by multiple times as he bled out, which completely shatters
• 33:35
  any illusion of immediate remorse or accidental escalation.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: But the most devastating moment of the cross examination was
• 33:42
  when the prosecutor trapped her in a documented lie.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Oh Man, This part was brutal to read in the transcripts.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: During her initial interviews with detectives on the day of
• 33:50
  the shooting, Quinisha had claimed that after the gun went off,
• 33:53
  she walked downstairs to check on Demante to make sure
• 33:56
  he was okay, showing concern for his well being.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: But secutor used the doorbell surveillance and the audio recordings
• 34:03
  to prove unequivocally that she never chucked on him.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: She simply watched him stumble out the door and told
• 34:09
  him by. When confronted with this objective proof on the stand,
• 34:13
  her credibility regarding every other claim, including her claim of
• 34:17
  self defense, sustained massive damage.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: So the trial concludes and the jury is sent to deliberate.
• 34:23
  And I do not envy those twelve people. They were
• 34:26
  handed an absolute mountain of conflicting, highly emotional evidence.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: You have a defendant who is undeniably sympathetic as an abused,
• 34:34
  exhausted mother, but who acted with incredible aggression and premeditation
• 34:38
  on camera.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: You have a victim who was a father, but who
• 34:41
  was also an active, threatening felon who exposed a newborn
• 34:44
  to the cold.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: You have timelines full of holes, children forced to recant testimony,
• 34:48
  an audio that sounds different depending on who is listening
• 34:51
  to it as a juror. How do you synthesize that
• 34:54
  into a single verdict.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: You do it by parsing the highly specific legal definitions
• 34:59
  of the charges person it to you. The jury's dilemma
• 35:02
  was finding the precise legal line between three distinct categories
• 35:06
  of homicide malice murder, felony murder, and voluntary manslaughter.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Right, let's break those down. Malice murder is what we
• 35:14
  typically think of as cold blooded murder. It requires the
• 35:17
  state to prove deliberate intent and a forethought, meaning you
• 35:19
  plan to kill, even if that plan was formed just
• 35:22
  seconds prior with a malignant.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Heart, okay, And felony murder.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Felony murder is entirely different. It means that someone died
• 35:30
  while you were in the commission of another inherently dangerous
• 35:33
  felony like aggravated assault, regardless of whether you actually intended
• 35:38
  for them to die. If your illegal, dangerous action results
• 35:40
  in a body on the floor, you're guilty of murder.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: But voluntary manslaughter is the crucial middle ground here, isn't it?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yes? Colloquially it is often known as a crime of passion. Legally,
• 35:51
  it occurs when a person kills someone else because they
• 35:54
  were provoked in a way that would cause a reasonable
• 35:56
  person to completely lose control of their actions, acting out
• 35:58
  of a sudden, violent and irresistible passion.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: So the jury comes back, the courtroom is completely silent,
• 36:06
  and the verdict they deliver is an incredibly nuanced.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Compromise for the charge of malice murder. They find Kuanisha
• 36:13
  Johnson not guilty. They reject the prosecution's theory that this
• 36:17
  was a cold, calculated execution over a bruised ego.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: But they don't let her walk free under the banner
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  of justified self defense either.
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  Speaker 2: No, they find her guilty of voluntary manslaughter. They also
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  find her guilty of aggravated assault. Involving family violence, possession
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  of a firearm during the commission of a felony, and
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  cruelty to children stemming from the involvement of her seven
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  year old daughter.
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  Speaker 1: The jury splitting the difference with voluntary manslaughter isn't just
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  a legal compromise. It is a profound societal statement on
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  the concept of provocation.
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  Speaker 2: By choosing manslaughter, they are legally declaring that a reasonable
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  person subjected to the systemic abandonment Queneisha face that morning,
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  combined with the relentless threats and the sight of her
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  newborn in the cold, would lose their mind.
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  Speaker 1: It acknowledges her temporary madness as a valid, predictable reaction
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  to her environment. However, by convicting her, they also firmly
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  established that her response arming herself with dual weapons and
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  shooting a man was an illegal overreaction.
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  Speaker 2: They validated her fear, but they condemned her execution of it, and.
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  Speaker 1: The sentencing handed down by Judge Shandana Morris reflects that
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  exact same profound gray area.
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  Speaker 2: The state pushed incredibly hard during sentencing. They wanted Quaneesha
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  locked in a cage for a long time. They asked
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  the judge for twenty five years in prison, plus an
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  additional five years of probation.
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  Speaker 1: But Judge Morris handed down a sentence that stunned a
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  lot of legal observers due to its leniency for a
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  homicide conviction.
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  Speaker 2: She sentenced Quaneesha to twenty years total. But here's the
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  critical breakdown. Only ten years of that is confinement, and
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  that confinement is split in.
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  Speaker 1: Half, five years to be served in the state prison
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  and five years to be served under strict house arrest.
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  The remaining ten years are to be served on PROBAI.
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  Speaker 2: The structure of that sentence, specifically minimizing the hard prison
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  time to just five years for taking a human life,
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  heavily implies that Judge Morris, having watched the entire trial unfold,
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  deeply understood the systemic failures that contributed to this tragedy.
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  Speaker 1: She punished the crime, but she showed immense mercy to
• 38:18
  the context.
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  Speaker 2: Furthermore, the judge made a highly unorthodox decision immediately following
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  the sentencing. Standard procedure after a violent felony conviction is
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  to remand the defendant immediately into state custody, but.
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  Speaker 1: Judge Morris granted Quaneesha an appeal bond.
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  Speaker 2: This allowed her to walk out of that courtroom and
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  remain free on bond, confined to house arrest while her
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  attorney navigates the lengthy appeals process.
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  Speaker 1: It is a stunning conclusion to an incredibly dark journey.
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  The Quenechia Johnson case refuses to fit neatly into the
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  binary boxes we are so desperate to put things in.
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  Speaker 2: She is not the cold blooded, calculating killer the prosecution
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  tried to portray, but the jury and equivocally decided she
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  is not an entirely innocent victim act and purely in
• 39:00
  self defense either.
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  Speaker 1: Which serves as a stark, somewhat uncomfortable reminder of what
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  the American justice system actually is.
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  Speaker 2: Trials are not scientific laboratories designed to discover absolute, objective truth.
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  They are restricted arenas where competing narratives clash, heavily constrained
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  by rules of evidence that often hide as much as
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  they reveal.
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  Speaker 1: A jury is rarely asked what definitively happened. They are
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  asked which constructed narrative they believe beyond a reasonable doubt,
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  based only on the fragmented puzzle pieces they are legally
• 39:32
  permitted to.
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  Speaker 2: View and that brings us right back to where we started,
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  the paradox of doing everything right and still ending up
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  in a cage.
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  Speaker 1: Before we wrapped up this deep dive, I want to
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  leave you the listener with a final lingering question. It's
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  a question that wasn't debated in the courtroom, but I
• 39:47
  think it haunts the periphery of this entire story.
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  Speaker 2: It's the what if that just won't go away exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Think back to that very first nine to one one
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  call from the highway, if that dispatcher's triage protocol hadn't
• 39:59
  prioritized another call, if that police officer had successfully escorted
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  Kwanese into her home the very first time she asked,
• 40:06
  would Demante Smith still be alive today?
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  Speaker 2: And would a mother of four be completely free of
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  the criminal justice system.
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  Speaker 1: We spend so much time, in millions of taxpayer dollars,
• 40:17
  rigorously judging the terrible actions people take in their absolute darkest,
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  most desperate moments, But how often do we interrogate the
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  systemic failures that force them into those moments in the
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  first place. Keep questioning the narratives you are presented with