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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, November 13 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jaguarris, did you don't check Jack Warris? Did you Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: drive Time right and sex sext? John Oh says, actually,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Let's go, Let's go,
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  Speaker 1: let's go phone Nerve Calais Campbell miked up on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: at the Lucas Oil. I want to see domes. It's
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  Speaker 1: close at Lucas Oil Stadium. You see more of that.
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  Speaker 1: The whole piece at spilmed by Max Hockman and Pat Kavanaugh,
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  Speaker 1: put together yesterday and up on the web, Mike Dumb
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  Speaker 1: check it out, folks. Lendon for Nett back on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got a stat coming up a little bit
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  Speaker 1: later in top tweets or is it today is death?
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  Speaker 1: There's not many take a deep breaths, will say. I
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  Speaker 1: think a lot of people have taken their deep breath
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  Speaker 1: and have have resigned this season. And uh, I mean
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  Speaker 1: nobody here is whistling past the graveyard. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: is what it is. You gotta win all seven games
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  Speaker 1: and then have some tiebreakers go your way now to
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  Speaker 1: make the playoff. Is it possible? Sure, it's possible, and
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  Speaker 1: we acknowledge that it is um but I think most people,
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  Speaker 1: these folks that I talked to you included, understand that
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  Speaker 1: a team that's not playing well can't all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden just say, well, we're gonna rip off seven right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go away back to which we do all the
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  Speaker 1: time here, which is there four and seven. At one
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  Speaker 1: point they were three and six, and you're thinking about,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this thing is gonna end. Tom Coughlin is
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  Speaker 1: gonna get fired. And they go forward seven and then
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  Speaker 1: they start ripping off wins and they you know, they
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  Speaker 1: went on this nice long run all the way to
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  Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game. They won seven straight. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is doable, and they're certainly talent, but boy, lot's
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  Speaker 1: gotta change. I mean, it's so you can't win seven
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  Speaker 1: games with the way you're playing right now. And I
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  Speaker 1: had a fan message me last night, commenting on our
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  Speaker 1: show yesterday where John you and I. He said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I really don't think it's great that you guys are
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  Speaker 1: saying the season's over, and we're not saying the season's over.
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  Speaker 1: There are still so much football have to be played.
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  Speaker 1: But the way this team is playing right now, you
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  Speaker 1: can't expect them to make the playoffs, and let you know,
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  Speaker 1: look in the in the locker room after the game.
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  Speaker 1: The player in Indianapolis, the players, not the media, were
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  Speaker 1: the ones that started talking about playing for Pride. Now,
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  Speaker 1: there were some questions after that. I mean, once one
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  Speaker 1: or two players started mentioning being a pro and Pride.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's your clue that they understand that missed
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  Speaker 1: opportunity on Sunday in Indianapolis probably cost them a chance
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  Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Um, it can go on a run.
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  Speaker 1: But when you're three and six and you've lost five
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  Speaker 1: in a row and you haven't played very well, they
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  Speaker 1: haven't put a complete game together. The offense played great. Wow, great,
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  Speaker 1: It's probably an exaggeration, but good enough to well compared
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  Speaker 1: to what they had done in October, it was great, right,
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  Speaker 1: sixteen first half points points total? Right it Um, a
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  Speaker 1: defense plays one half. It was just it is what
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  Speaker 1: it is. We leave it at that at this point, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: just a thought. Klais is always a pro. I mean
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  Speaker 1: he's always working at and I'm I'm not the big
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  Speaker 1: leadership guy. I mean in pro football, if you play,
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  Speaker 1: you're a leader. Right, If you go out on the
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  Speaker 1: field and you make plays, then you lead by example,
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  Speaker 1: and whatever you say in the locker room people listen to.
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  Speaker 1: But if you run your gums and you don't go
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  Speaker 1: make plays, no one cares. It's all in that locker room.
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  Speaker 1: In particular, words are meaningless unless they're backed up with actions.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the culture of an NFL locker room. Klais
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  Speaker 1: clearly does both, so he's got it. The Jaguars need
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  Speaker 1: more guys making plays on the field so that they
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  Speaker 1: can chirp off the field in the locker room and lead,
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  Speaker 1: lead by example. Calais does it all the time, and
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  Speaker 1: you can't put it all on Kleis. At times, he
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  Speaker 1: is the go to guys. What did I say to
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  Speaker 1: you last year? Do you remember what I said to
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  Speaker 1: you in the locker room last year? You're going over
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  Speaker 1: to interview Calais. I say it all the time. You'll
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  Speaker 1: never have a guy like that again in your car.
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  Speaker 1: I say, you probably won't because I've done this now
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  Speaker 1: twenty five years and I have never never been around
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  Speaker 1: a guy like class. You may never have someone that
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  Speaker 1: good in terms of production and professionalism. Again, He's terrific
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  Speaker 1: and someone you know will give you an honest answer
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  Speaker 1: no matter what the circumstance. Yeah, I mean, he's just
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  Speaker 1: the way he handles people, both players and fans. You
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  Speaker 1: see him out at Mellow Mushroom for All Access on
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  Speaker 1: Monday nights. I me, he is absolutely terrific. So let's
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  Speaker 1: get any big things, all right. Big thing one is
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  Speaker 1: what's next. Let's look forward a little bit and see
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  Speaker 1: what Shaun Gibson has to say about what's next the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the scene. Like I said, I've been on
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  Speaker 1: terrible teams, and I've been on teams that when you're
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  Speaker 1: three and six, you're like, hey, man, that's a lot
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  Speaker 1: better than I thought. We will be nine games. And
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  Speaker 1: the feeling right now is tough on a lot of guys,
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  Speaker 1: myself specifically, because this is not a three and six team.
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  Speaker 1: And I can say and tell you all that time,
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  Speaker 1: blowing a face that we must better than three and six, man,
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  Speaker 1: but we're playing like three and six, three and six.
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  Speaker 1: We are three and six. But it's tough because this
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  Speaker 1: is not truly at three and six team. In my heart, man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that nobody came into the season expecting this,
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  Speaker 1: man um, So I think that's what makes it a
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  Speaker 1: lot tougher. Man. And when you go out and look
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  Speaker 1: and how we're planning some games. The way we're losing.
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  Speaker 1: We gave up twenty nine points to a coach offense
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  Speaker 1: in the first half. And it's not like they came
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  Speaker 1: out there and vit us. It's just we gifted them
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  Speaker 1: three three touchdowns. That just it's unacceptable and it's hard.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to way when you've given our points like that,
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  Speaker 1: for sure. Uh, first of all, credit for being a
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  Speaker 1: pro to Shawn Gibson. No one else came in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room to podcast day. Now, Malik came through. He
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  Speaker 1: had to go to a meeting, but most people avoided
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  Speaker 1: the locker room. They did not want to come in
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  Speaker 1: a pocket. You know, you can understand that the day
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  Speaker 1: after that loss, and you know the meetings had to
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  Speaker 1: be tough that morning. Yeah, I get it, young guys.
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  Speaker 1: I don't expect everybody to come in. But when he
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  Speaker 1: comes in and he talks for nearly ten minutes and
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  Speaker 1: answers every question. With credit to to Sean Gibson for
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  Speaker 1: what he had to say. Here's what was interested. He said,
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  Speaker 1: we're not a three and six team, but we are
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  Speaker 1: in other words, we're not in terms of talent a
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  Speaker 1: team that's lacking. You realize that the worst record in
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  Speaker 1: the league is two and seven. R right there, you
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  Speaker 1: have San Francisco and in the New York Giants who
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  Speaker 1: played last night, they're both two and seven. You're right there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would dispute that this roster is
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  Speaker 1: more talented than both of those. So what's gonna change. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he talked about it being a tough feeling, and you
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  Speaker 1: talked about the person. Was it a caller or a
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  Speaker 1: tweet that I don't think people should be talking about
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  Speaker 1: not making the plays. But that's exactly what he felt.
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  Speaker 1: He felt it now. He he tried to come back
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  Speaker 1: around if you recall and say, look, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: we think we can, you know, come out here on
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  Speaker 1: Sunday and beat the Steelers and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden get on a run. Okay, right, but they had
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  Speaker 1: a chance to beat the Colts, and they left four
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  Speaker 1: points in the kicking game on the field, the blocked
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  Speaker 1: extra point in the missfield goal, and then they fumbled
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  Speaker 1: the ball right at at a crucial moment the game. So,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, something dramatic has had got to change. But
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  Speaker 1: what's next is you you've got to go out and
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  Speaker 1: be a professional football player, which you don't let the
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  Speaker 1: feelings of five straight losses impact the way that you
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  Speaker 1: practice and play right. Hopefully you don't let it impact
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  Speaker 1: the way that you deal with the media and the
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  Speaker 1: fans when you're out in public you're a pro. It
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  Speaker 1: stinks picking up the pick up the newspaper because I'm old, um.
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  Speaker 1: But to open up, you know, Twitter in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: or listen to the radio, I'd probably say radio because
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  Speaker 1: I'm old, um. You know, turn on a podcast or
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  Speaker 1: whatever and listen to people talking about the teams that
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  Speaker 1: the Saints and the Chiefs and the Chargers, all teams
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  Speaker 1: that are on winning streets right now. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this team expected to be that team that
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  Speaker 1: people were talking about. I don't want to I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say this team is irrelevant. But in a
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  Speaker 1: sense in terms of a national media standpoint, you don't
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  Speaker 1: hear the Jaguars on any shows that from a championship perspective,
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  Speaker 1: which is what this season was supposed to be about.
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  Speaker 1: They're irrelevant to that conversation. Well, irrelevant sucks. Nobody likes that.
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  Speaker 1: No one wants to think that way. Being a pro
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  Speaker 1: means that you put those thoughts out and talked about
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  Speaker 1: it yesterday in his news conference. Um, you have to
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  Speaker 1: focus intently, right And sometimes you go to work you
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  Speaker 1: think I focused, I'm working on the rundown for the show,
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  Speaker 1: or I'm working on zone blitz, whatever it is that
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  Speaker 1: you're doing, focused on. But focus, as a professional football
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  Speaker 1: player means shutting out the noise. It means getting in
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  Speaker 1: the cave. It means coming in on Tuesday, right for
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  Speaker 1: your rehab, for a lift when you don't have a
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  Speaker 1: day off, right for time with the coaches, for time
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  Speaker 1: in the film room. I mean, it's just so that
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  Speaker 1: you don't get caught in that noise. Shutting out the noise. Sorry, fans,
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  Speaker 1: If I'm a player, right now, I turn off Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: I turn off all the social media Instagram in the
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  Speaker 1: whole night yards and I dial in not because I
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  Speaker 1: don't care, but because I can't care, right, I got
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  Speaker 1: only care about being myself. And I think if you,
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  Speaker 1: if the fans are watching or who watched this are thinking,
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  Speaker 1: if it helps you win, you turn it off. Don't
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  Speaker 1: listen to me, don't turn it off. And that includes
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  Speaker 1: this show too. Sorry exactly, but Doug bron didn't mention
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  Speaker 1: yesterday talking about you know, listening to fans and reacting
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  Speaker 1: to it and having to block out all the noise,
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  Speaker 1: especially when it's negative. It's great when you bring it
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  Speaker 1: on in when it's positive. But it was I opening
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  Speaker 1: to me. We were watching NFL Network yesterday and did
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  Speaker 1: a big graph about the a f C and who
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  Speaker 1: was in the hunt. Jaguars were nowhere to be in
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  Speaker 1: that graph. No. I mean, at this point, when you're
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  Speaker 1: only one game off the pace, you're in the hunt
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  Speaker 1: for a top pick in the draft next year, not
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs. And you know, and these guys in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room they don't care about that. What does it
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  Speaker 1: means a player coming to challenge them for their job.
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  Speaker 1: They don't want picks, they want wins. They want playoffs, Um, playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: You know what we need to do, Joe Fortunato, Brett Reebert,
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  Speaker 1: we need to find the clip of Jim Mora. Have
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  Speaker 1: you ever seen that clip? Playoffs? Playoffs? Let's get it
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  Speaker 1: exactly focus. I'll put it on Joe's to do list.
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  Speaker 1: And okay, what's n He's rolling his eyes at me,
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  Speaker 1: like Joe doesn't enough to do for you? Alright, big
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  Speaker 1: thing two is together. So last season this defensive unit
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  Speaker 1: they played as one. This year not as much. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see what John Gibson has to say about that. Just
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  Speaker 1: total brain farts. You're looking at guys running wild and
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  Speaker 1: coverages that we've been playing here for the first four years. Um,
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  Speaker 1: even back in two thousand sixteen we won a great
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  Speaker 1: football team, but it wasn't this many consecutive bus weekend
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  Speaker 1: and week out. Man, this is the bus came up
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  Speaker 1: in Dallas game and they've just been a recurrent theme
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  Speaker 1: since then. So, um, what to do about it? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, man, It's hard to blame coaching for for
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  Speaker 1: for bus. At the same time, you know, everybody got
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  Speaker 1: to be accountable in this thing right here. Man, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: this is no coaching. It's not a coaching at all.
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  Speaker 1: It's on plane because they didn't make any significant changes
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  Speaker 1: to the scheme in the second half. It's guys doing
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  Speaker 1: their job. And yesterday Jalen Ramsey took him out of heat,
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  Speaker 1: so much heat that he was tweeting after our show
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  Speaker 1: in the morning. We we we got off, we saw
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  Speaker 1: that he was tweeting we had a bad day. He's
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  Speaker 1: playing forty four games as a professional football player, and
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  Speaker 1: that is by far his weakest performance. Right happen. Every
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  Speaker 1: player goes through it absolutely. Well, here's the thing with
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  Speaker 1: the guy like Jaylen. He's so incredibly gifted, Right, you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about an All Pro in his second season, the
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  Speaker 1: best cornerback in football. Well, when things aren't going well,
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  Speaker 1: what do you do? Well, I'm gonna use my talent.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do things that other guys can't do. Just
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  Speaker 1: like the interception. We're standing on the sideline in London
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  Speaker 1: and he overheard him talking to Barry Church and Barry
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  Speaker 1: saw a route and he jumped it. So Jalen said, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to the end zone and he made
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  Speaker 1: that incredible intercept totally across the field. It worked close
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  Speaker 1: to his own. It worked for him there, but it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work the odds. Don't say that that's going to
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  Speaker 1: work for you every time, no matter how gifted you are. Right,
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  Speaker 1: and Jalen isn't the only guy. Myles Jack was doing
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  Speaker 1: it on Sunday to advocating his responsibilities and going to
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  Speaker 1: try to make a play. Miles, by the way, is
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  Speaker 1: one of those physically gifted guys. You can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: You can't do it, and staying together means a holding
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  Speaker 1: each other accountable, as two Sean mentioned, but it means
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  Speaker 1: doing your job and possibly giving up a big play
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  Speaker 1: to do your job. You know, you understand the frustration
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  Speaker 1: comes through and a guy think, I'm the all Pro corner,
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  Speaker 1: I'm the highly touted middle linebacker, I'll go and do this,
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  Speaker 1: But you can't. You have to trust the guy next
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  Speaker 1: to you to do his job. And Doug said yesterday
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  Speaker 1: that they had their best week of practice all season.
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  Speaker 1: They were ready, they were prepared for this game. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: he told us on Friday morning with coffee with the
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  Speaker 1: coach that sometimes you have a great practice and play poorly,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes you have a bad practice and play great.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously that was the case in the first half. And
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  Speaker 1: the reason that I don't play the coaches for this
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  Speaker 1: is no significant difference in terms of scheme. And in
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  Speaker 1: the second half, everybody did their job and what happened nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Colts did nothing. And it seemed to have come just
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  Speaker 1: from a halftime locker room conversation. It's taken when Jalen
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  Speaker 1: in the locker room after the game talks about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: creating some momentum and finding a way to win you
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  Speaker 1: It's why you do think they could get on a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a on here and at least with themselves
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  Speaker 1: positively for this season. By the way that they play
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  Speaker 1: that is a defense. Really they're only missing a J.
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  Speaker 1: Boyett and bury Church didn't play very well, right, so
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  Speaker 1: you need the guys on defense who played better than
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  Speaker 1: they did. But the talent is certainly there. And I
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  Speaker 1: know people are going, yeah, sure that, keep talking about
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  Speaker 1: the talent, but I mean, you show me who who
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  Speaker 1: isn't talented on that defense. Looked down the rosters and
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  Speaker 1: they're just not playing all that well, or at least
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  Speaker 1: in spurts they're not playing all that well. Staying together
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  Speaker 1: the other thing, and we saw moments of this early
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  Speaker 1: in the year when the offense wasn't playing well and
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  Speaker 1: the defense was having to do too much. You could
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  Speaker 1: almost feel a breaking point like someone on defense was
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  Speaker 1: going to trigger and lose it. Staying together means that
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  Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, and on Sunday the offense
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  Speaker 1: could beat their chest if they wanted to and calm
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  Speaker 1: doing their job job finding a way to win together.
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  Speaker 1: Staying together is at this point and act of the
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  Speaker 1: will you have to be willing to say, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought Doug has done a good job of this. It's
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  Speaker 1: on me, right, Yeah, I get it. I may think
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  Speaker 1: I played well, the coaches may say I played well,
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  Speaker 1: But what more can I do? Right? I missed that block,
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  Speaker 1: or I missed that tackle, or I dropped that pass.
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  Speaker 1: If you can look at so many aspects, if you
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  Speaker 1: look at Lambo missing the field goal, you can look
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  Speaker 1: at so many aspects of that game. But I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was interesting yesterday when Doug Brown talked about the
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  Speaker 1: busted coverage and said, it's not like they're willingly busting coverage.
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  Speaker 1: We talked about it, we had a great walk through
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  Speaker 1: about it. It's just something that needs to get fixed.
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  Speaker 1: And there's obviously a break in the communication from walk
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  Speaker 1: through to the game. Well, and the brain and communication
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  Speaker 1: is guys jumping routes and trying to make place. You know,
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  Speaker 1: and you admire it, You admire the talent, you admire
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  Speaker 1: you admire when it works. But yeah, yeah, when it's
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  Speaker 1: an interception, when it's not, when it's not working, it's
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  Speaker 1: time to stay in the scheme. Yes, absolutely, all right,
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  Speaker 1: big thing three is the Steeler. Let's look forward. So
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  Speaker 1: despite the Flex game. We know that the Steelers, they
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  Speaker 1: come with a lot of fans. They're gonna fill your building.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be allowed atmosphere. It's gonna be something
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  Speaker 1: that Jaguars fans can still look forward to and would
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  Speaker 1: be so Jaguars of them if they can win on something.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is that that disappointing moment because we
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  Speaker 1: all looked at this is the marquee game of the season,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and the Steelers are They're hot right now.
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  Speaker 1: Was phenomenal in that Thursday night game. They're bringing Juju
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  Speaker 1: Smith Schuster in with Antonio Brown. We'll find out about
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  Speaker 1: Lady on Bell today. Yeah, but even if he reports,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't see him playing right away. But
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: it's a huge story. It's a huge story line. They've
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: got a good offensive line, their defense is good. Um,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: it may be just the thing for this team. They
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: they can't think, how could anybody think that anything less
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: than your best game is going to do it against
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the Steelers With the way they're playing right now, that's
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: very fair to say they looked lights out. And you
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: have the number one team from CBS, who when they've
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: had the Jaguars this year, the Jaggers have been completely
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: non competitive. Right, So when you have the Steelers and
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: you have CBS, and you have Jim Nance and Tracy
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Westbrook and Tony Romo, I'm sorry why I said that,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Tracy Wolfson, Um, you have the eyes of the sporting world.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do. You're gonna look like
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the three and six team? Or are you going to
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: do is Sean Gibson suggested, and that is not look
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: like the three and six team, because you're good enough
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: to not look like a three and six team. Um.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they'll say. We'll find out tomorrow.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: But if it's me, I'm thinking this may be the
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: only chance I get to really let everyone know how
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: important this is to make right and to change the
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: storyline on the entire season. You look at games like
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: against Dallas and against Kansas City when you had that
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: big TV and everyone in America watching and you got embarrassed.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Everyone said, we got embarrassed in front of the entire country.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Here's your chance to change that. And you know, I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: think this is obvious. If you if you scratch out
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: a win against the Steelers, you get Buffalo, and Buffalo,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I mean they're they're not playing great. They got Nathan
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Peterman right, well, I don't know because at all, but
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: they don't have Josh Allen and they you know, they
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: had a j McCarron and they just brought in Matt Barkley.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I mean they're playing revolving quarterback. I mean they've let
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: players go, they've traded players. I mean, they're in a
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: collect draft choice mode right now. Not stable right, Um,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: so you put a little momentum. Who knows, But at
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: this point, the focus on the Steelers is it's it's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: this couldn't come in a better week, right. They're mad
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: about not getting to play that primetime game that's very
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: important to them. It's the Steelers. They're gonna be a
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: lot of fans in here that'll piss the players off
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: to um. And by the way, it's not just Jacksonville.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: If they played in Miami, if they played in Tampa,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: they play in Carolina, wherever they go. The Steelers fill
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: your boat, spread out. That's what happens when you win.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: Sick right you girlie, Okay, those are big things. When
• 18:05
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• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Steelers and how it can define your season in a
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: positive way. So we touched on it briefly in Big
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Thing three. But if you can get a win on Sunday,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: a whole new storyline changes with this season. And I've
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: only been here years, so I'm looking at last year,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, and I think of the Jaguars being
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: in the Steelers. When I think of two thousand seventeen,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I think of in October when they beat them thirty
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: to nine. And I think of the divisional game when
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it was a close one hundred and nine yards that game,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: three touchdowns for fourteen yards. I think of the fourth quarter,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: a vital moment in this Jaguars offense drives down the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: field and scores. And by the way, I have to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: interrupt you, Ben Koyak, who just caught the pass that
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: we showed, is back. He signed last night with the Jaguars.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's a positive for this football team to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: have a reliable pass catching option. I'm sorry, keep going,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you know what, You're fine. And then around the country
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: when the Jaguars beat them. I remember the term was stunned.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: They were stunned that the Jaguars got the stunt. But
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the team, yeah, this team in this locker room were
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: not stunned that that happened. So you have a chance
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: here in two thousand eighteen to completely change the storyline
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: get a huge win. It's just it's a huge moment.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: It's a huge opportunity, and you hope this team can
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: see it because they did last year well. And and
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: by the way, people were stunned because the Jaguars went
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: up there and put forty five points on the board
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: a week after they could barely throw the ball. Bortles
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: ran for eighty eight yards and only through seven against
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the Bills, And they went up there well, and they
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: went up there and played I mean he answered him
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: in the second half. When Ben got going, Bortles did too.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: So that's surprised a lot of people. So let me
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: give you a little historical perspective. Um you mentioned last
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: year and how the early Steelers game, because remember they
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: were coming off the loss. Uh, and we're two and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: two and they came off the loss in New York.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: You thought, new boy. Now you gotta go to Pittsburgh
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: playing very well, and they win, and then the playoffs
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: we just mentioned the Steelers have in the history of
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, offered season defining moments. In the Jaguars beat
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the Steelers here, the team that would go on and
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: play in the Super Bowl. Right, they beat them here
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: in October of At the moment, it was only their
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: second win. Right Okay? Uh. The next year they play
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the defending a f C champions and pummel them here
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: on opening Day twenty four to nine. Only time, in
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: my understanding, in modern NFL history, that a two game
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: series between two divisional opponents, the Steelers and the Jaguars,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: each game ended on the final play of the game.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Remember out here Clyde Simmons blocked Norm Johnson's game winning
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: field goal attempt on Monday Night Football. Chris Hudson returned
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it for a touchdown. And then in Pittsburgh, the game
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: goes to overtime. It's cold, the sun goes down. They
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: go out to flip the coin and it flip in
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the air, and the Jaguars called heads and it hit
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the ground and you hear the official. Everyone got silent
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: they fish auld go, it is tailed and the place
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: he erupts, the Steelers get the ball first. Jerome Battist
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: takes they don't on a shovel pass from twenty yards out.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Steelers win. Right. It was epic. That was season defining
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: two thousand Fred Taylor's two and forty three yard day
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: two four in the ground the most by visiting running
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: back Everett three Rivers Stadium, and the two thousand seven
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are the first team to beat the Steelers in
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Pittsburgh twice in the same year. So the Steelers have
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: always been that season defining when they were in the
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: same division in the old d f C Central, and
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: now they haven't been since two thousand and two. The
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Steelers maintain that. So Sunday feels like an opportunity for
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the Jaguar, not playoff thing, but for them to turn
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the narrative a bit on their season a bit, because
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs, the narrative is going
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: to be a team that went to the a f
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: C Championship Game then didn't make the playoffs. You can't
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: really change that, but at least you can change the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: tenor of it and how people think you're the biggest
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: disappointing point, the most disappointing story in the NFL right now. Uh,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: in terms of expectations and productions. There's no doubt. Um,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: So you're right on. This game has a chance to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: help them redefine their season. Yeah, just a positive light.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: And it's it's tough because I can only base it off.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: When you share stories like that all those years back.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It shows the momentum that this team brings. It sure does.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And there have been Jaguars who went and played as
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: free agents in Pittsburgh, and there have been Steelers who
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: have come and played in free agents here. And even
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: though the Jaguars are only in their four season and
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the Steelers are one of the sage old franchises, uh,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: there is a rivalry to it. And the Jaguars, I
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: think they've won thirteen of twenty four regular season games.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: They're two games ahead on this thing based on what
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: they did last year. So great rivalry. It's fun to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: have Steelers here. Steelers fans here, by the way, from
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: a financial perspective, and and this franchise more than any
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: other fan base included, you kind of look to the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: numbers because that's how we judge the health of this
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: franchise when the Steelers are on your schedule. Um, they
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: come in and they buy your tickets, and they pay
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: for your parking, and they buy your beers and your
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: hot dog all that kind of stuff. They spend money
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: in your restaurants, and so welcome. Dealers fans are welcome,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: but not have more of them than you need. But
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: they help you fill your building. But this team thrives
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: almost in that and all that noise going against you.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: All three Florida teams have Steelers fans when they're here.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: All of them do Okay, good analysis today. You're right on, Ki,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Right, Let's do a take a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: deep breath Tuesday from Twitter. Let's see what the first
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: one is, our friend Hayes from ten ten XEL. The
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Jaguars have no one in the top twenty five and
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: sacks Calius is tied for with five. There are forty
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: five defenders with multiple interceptions this season. None played for
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars. There are sixty one players who have forced
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: multiple fundles. None played for the Jaguars. That's all for now.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's a teak. Take a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: deep breath Tuesday. But then when you look, it shows
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the difference between two thousand seventeen defense tense thirty three
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: takeaways last year, right plus seventeen seven including the playoffs.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Defensive touchdowns should have been eight because you know, Miles
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't down. Um, which never gets old. Um, it was
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: gonna be tough to replicate that it was. But this
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: defense on Sunday, when Telvin made that interception, that beautiful interception,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: it felt like Miles interception in Pittsburgh in the playoffs
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: last year. They just they haven't been opportunistic, and part
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of that is is that they've been playing from behind
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: and freelancing a bit, trying to be opportunistic, trying to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: be that defense from Um. Heyes, that that's stands in
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: stark contrast. It shows you are they talented? Yes, they're talented.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: M Are they playing well? Um? In flash in spurts
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: in the first half last weekend? D Yes? This time.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: If they could play consistent football, those things happened. The
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: turnover has come in bunches that the coach speak that
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you hear the players speak from the locker room. Um,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: but you know, choose a guy you know last week
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it's Barry and then one week it's it's uh, it's Telvin,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and then you know, another week it's unique. You know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: whoever it is that they're just they're not as effective,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: they're not having their right. Um, last year you had
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: plenty of guys to pick up when the other guys didn't.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: This year, it's just not happening. All right, Let's go
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to sp Nation. The Jaguars taking Leonard for Net over
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes will never not be hilarious.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: This will take a deep breath two Jimmy, thanks to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: our friend Patrick Havanaugh, who shared the stat with us
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: this morning. The three games the Jaguars have had for
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Net in them, they have scored seventies seven points. The
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: six games that Leonard Fron has missed, they have scored three. Um,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: so what you're at all, well, yeah, so what you're
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: saying is is that his impact on the game is gigantic. However, um,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: that will never go away. That you know, it's as
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: long as Mahomes and Watson our stars, then you will
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: always bear the brunt of that. You know, for the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: longest time, Uh, there were eight or ten teams in
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: the NFL who needed a running game, and Terrell Davis
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: was a fifth round pick, and people said, well, you
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: passed on Terrell Davis, you know, every round until the
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Broncos got him. Are you passed on Tom Brady? You
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: can go back and play that what if game, except
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: for this, because you did pass on those two quarterbacks,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: and both of them Mahomes much more than Watson. Looks
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: like he is m VP material, though Watson has been
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: terrific at times this season and looks like he's got
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the intangibles. Yeah, I mean, you can't escape it. I
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: tell the story all the time. In two thousand and three,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars took Byron Leftwich and they on Terrell Suggs,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: that you know, Pro Bowl, All Pro, future Hall of Famer.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: You passed on that pass rusher at a premium position
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: um in two and they took Iron Leftwood. In two
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: thousand and four, they passed on Eli Manning, which they
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: couldn't get him any with Philip Rivers, so they don't
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: really passed on them. They passed him Ben Roethlisberger who
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: was sitting there. And in two thousand five they passed
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. Right, Well, I mean there's no doubt.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt that you're going to pay for that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And they did, you know. I mean they had the
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: playoffs season or No. Seven, but they didn't have their quarterback. So, yeah,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you passed on great players, you pay for it. How
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: About when they took Blaine Gabbert instead of J. J. Watt? Right,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure every team can go back to at
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: least one year and to go back to every year football,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you can go back to every year and say, if
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: we've taken that guy instead of that guy. However, it's
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a crystal ball business. These guys you're paid to look
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: into the crystal ball and see. And they didn't take
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: those quarterbacks. They thought Leonard for Nett fit better or
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: for what they did. I get that they wanted a
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: certain offense and they went and got but they thought
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and so they are going to have to answer that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: why didn't you take it? Just you got they better
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: have thick skin about it. They've called well, Tom Coughlin,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: They're they're going to just have to endure that and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: deal with it. And both of them have been around
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: this game long enough to shake it off. Right. For
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: whatever reason, they didn't want those two players. They wanted
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: for new at the time exactly. But the numbers say
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you should have picked one of the two of them. Yeah,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: hard to argue with the numbers. What can you do?
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Should have? Could have? All right? The last one for
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: take a deep breath Tuesday comes from the Buffalo Bills
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: cutting Nathan Peterman a quote heat from a Jaguars fan.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: This isn't the Jaguars written all over it? Bring them
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: on in. Yeah, that's that's hold on, it's it's what
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: our headlines here coming up. They take a real deep break.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And remember that Blake last week completed sixty percent of
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: his passes, two touchdowns, eleven point seven passer rating, and
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: put this team in a position to at least go
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: to overtime at least East top defense gave up twenty
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: nine points in the first half. Boardles brought you back, Um,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Peterman never did that, Never did that. So Bartram trail guy, Hey,
• 31:11
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• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Good luck to him. Yet non Jackson, all right, there
• 31:16
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• 31:22
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• 31:25
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• 31:31
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  Speaker 1: story just because I was looking down at at my
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  Speaker 1: chart here and I see Landry Jones, a former Steelers quarterback.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: There was a time in the NFL um where you
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: didn't sign other players, other teams players in the weeks
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: before you played them. That was for boating, right, you know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: bring him in, pick their brain, you know, have him
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: for a week or two, and then send him packing
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and so I see Jones, who's here, And obviously they
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: signed him because of Blake shoulder and Landry hasn't been
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh for a couple of years. But it reminds
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: me of a little of that Steelers Jaguars lure. When
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Mark Brunel was injured early the Jaguars signed Jim Miller,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: who now was on Sirius NFL radio, and Miller came
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: in and they had Jags had him for a couple
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: of weeks and then they cut him. So later in
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: the season when the Jaguars played the Steelers at Three
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: River Stadium, that was, you know, the overtime game. Um,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Greg Lloyd, who was a bad man. I mean, he
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: was a great player, but he was bad man. He
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: was a little off kilter. He absolutely blindsided Keenan McCardell
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and then after the game said he you know, he
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: called my wife and said something nasty about I mean,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: just totally b asked his way through it. And the
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: old time Steelers scribes we were talking to the afterwards,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: said that was a message from the Steelers co sign
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: our players, right, you know. Bill Coward says, hey, you
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: send the message that you don't do that you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: don't do that. So I looked at it Landry Jones name,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and I a story pops into my head. What I do? Alright,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: don't call my wife, do not call my wife. Uh time,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: don't sign my players? Agree to disagree? Is up next
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: year on Jaguars Time. We'll start with this from kt
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: V kt I V twenty two X. Ninja would just
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: let you read that we have no chance for the playoffs,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: so we need a top ten pick. Just tank and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: give D J. Chark and D. D. Westbrook some more opportunities.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: So um, disagree with this, Although I gotta couch this.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: If you're not gonna win, right and you're not going
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, losing isn't necessarily the worst thing
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: for you. Now that that's me looking on the outside
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and talking about draft picks, and this becomes heated topic,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and I can't believe that we're having it in November,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: But that's where we are, right. The players and coaches
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: will never tank. They are judged every game on what
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: they do. Winning is what they're paid for. They're expected
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to go and win. But you reach that point where
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: fans start thinking draft a little too early for that, right, now,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: as a general rule, if you stink, stink, right, and
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: if you're great, be great. What you don't want to
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: be is an eight, perpetually eight and night well, and
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that's how you miss on great quarterbacks from member, the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Colts were the worst team in football in the Prize.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: The next year Peyton Manning and the two thousand and
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: eleven Manning was hurt. They were the worst team in
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: football the Prize. We saw him on Sunday Andrew Luck right,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: just philosophically speaking, but it's way too early, and it's
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: not like Doug could say, hey, guys, we're not gonna
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: really play this week because we want a better draft pick. Yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you know what, guys just taking easy players aren't gonna go.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Then they don't want another player in here. One is
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: going to take their job. Their own job is on
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the line every week. So get it from the fan perspective. Um,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: But most people would disagree. But if we have to
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: talk about loss after loss after loss, no one will watch. Yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: we don't want that, right. I agree with the DJ
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: chart more opportunities. I think he's playing very well special teams,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: especially against the Colts, and they'll learn their opportunities right.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I mean Deed has earned the opportunities to Scott this year.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: He has been a playmaker for them. Gotta keep earning him,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: but DJ keep throwing it at keep going. Okay, agree
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: with that? What else you got this one? This one
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I liked? Uh from Ron Rothberg. It's Colin Oscarpe's will
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: be scheduled on Sundays as a positive distraction from the Jaguars.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Now there's somebody who either just turned fifty like me
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: and needed the reminder or or or really is unhappy
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: right now. Um, that reminded me that I need to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: call the doctor because it's funny. Ron Rothberg is one
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: of my mom's good friends and they went to high
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: school together. This rom high Tohron Rothberg. Yes, he says
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: he watched the show all the time. Is a big
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Jaguars fan. It tells my mom all the time he
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: watched our show. Well, I gotta stick you note that
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: is called the dog, So thanks for the reminder. Ron.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Up Next, agree to disagree from Jordan's stand sill Jaguars
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: will be looking for a new head coach, new GM
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: and new quarterback at seasons and totally disagree traumatic on
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the coach and the general manager. Uh, these guys were extended.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Now you know, you go on this long losing streak
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and you end up with three wins on the season,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: well then anything happens, right, You never know. Um, it
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: would not be the first time that coaches and general
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: managers will let go with multiple years on their deal.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: But I think there is a belief in these men
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: and what you've done. The quarterback thing will be interesting.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: It really all depends on him and and as as
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: he showed us on Sunday, he can be a very
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: capable quarterback where he needs. He needs a running game,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: he needs a defense. He's not Drew Brees. He's not
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: a guy who's going to lift the team on his shoulders.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: And truthfully, for the long term, when you start looking
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: at the way that the game is played and you
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: know just the future, you uh, you probably look recorded right,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: but a lot is on him on his shoulders if
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: he can play consistent football. Well he said it, I
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: mean he said last week. He was asked the question
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: in his news conference coming out of the coming off
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the by are you fighting for your job with the Jaguars?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: He goes, Yeah, every week I am week to week,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: season to season where you bet, and he said every
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: quarterback that hasn't won a Super Bowl is doing the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: same exact thing, but with seven games left, And I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: disagree on most of that. Yes, that's a bit dramatic
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: like the Bolt Jackson seven and nine. But at for
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Nett still manages to get tent touchdowns and has a
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: thousand yards rushing and receiving by the end of the season. Uh,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: two point two yards per carry would require carries, you know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: four hundred carries something like, yeah, yeah, I don't see
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: it happening. But ten touchdowns, yeah, for sure. He had
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: too on Sunday, the first time in his career that
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: he has had one rushing in one receiving in the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: same game. Um, here's the other thing. Can he stay healthy? Right?
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: But he's great on the screen game. He was on
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Sunday many times, and they will because the box will
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: be stacked. They'll need to get him out there and
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: do that. So you know, we'll see. The thought that
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: he would be very productive, which I think is what
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that agree to disagree is all about. Is it's not lost.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I think he will be productive as long as he's
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: on the field. We gave you the stat in the
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: last block. Jaguars have scored seventy seven points into three
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: games that Leonard for Nett has played. That's per game.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: In the six games he has not played, they have
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: scored eighty three or eight. Right, big difference, huge difference,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: So all depending on that hamstring, though productivity with him
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: on the field makes it. What else? If I was
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: getting these results from Madden's Franchise mode, I would say
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: these coders are dumb and reset the season. And you
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: know what, I don't play Madden, but I get this
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: guy's point. And it was simple, who can believe this? Right?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: This is a right. Fans are still in disbelief and
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: and and obviously Sunday there people are still just believing
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: that Rashad Green lost that football and the chance to
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: go to overtime and win it. But just in general,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: they're watching a team. They don't recognize it. It doesn't
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: look anything like last year's team. Yeah, and you look
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: at the preview of the season and it doesn't match
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: with the preview of the season said during training camp.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Because fans are confused say it all the time. You
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: go back to that Atlanta game before they shut them
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: down in the preseason. You think, okay, you've got something here,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: and then injuries and some poor performances along the way
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: by a select players haven't really called storyline has changed
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: all right? I know we've got a couple more here.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: There were so many good ones this week. Oh this one,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: This is from a B Lincoln six team. Right, most
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: people are usually as happy as they make up their
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: minds to be. Have you ever heard that a Lincoln
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: tweeted you? Really, that's that's something, remember, folks, it's a choice.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: It's a choice. It's a choice. Thank you, Lincoln. So
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: there's agreed to disagree for you on a Tuesday time
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: for a few headlines and then we'll bring in Jeff
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Logaman and get his learned perspective. But first, how about
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: this And this was a great scene last night. So
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: if you've even turned on the news, you have seen
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the wildfire in California which is now the deadliest wildfire
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: in the history of this country. Um forty two people
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: right now dead, two hundred missing, Paradise wiped off the map.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Their football team was having a season eight and two.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: They had made the playoffs and they had to forefeit
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: obviously because they've all lost their homes. I mean they're
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: living in shelters, and so they forfeit. The Niners heard
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: about this that one of their wait staff is from Paradise.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: They sent busses up to pick up thirty five coaches,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: sixteen cheerleaders and eight coaches, and they brought them down
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and they stood on the sidelines for the National Anthem
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Right and and those those players for Paradise represented last
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: night to America. You know, the struggle of these people
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: with this wild part which is just epics. Some of
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the videos off the charts that warmed my heart. I
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: couldn't wait to tell that story this morning. Uh. The
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: lots and lots of donations of time, money, and supplies
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: to Northern California and prayers to for the folks in Paradise.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: A good on the San Francisco forty Niners for helping
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: those folks in northern California. All right, Sean Payton taking
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit of heat. Just see that. That's the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: fire alarm in the Saints locker room at Paul Brown Stadium.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: About a thirty minutes before the Saints were to take
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: the field, the alarm in the stadium went off, and
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: it went off, and it went off, and Peyton finally
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: had enough. He says he's gonna pay for it. Right,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: he smashed it. He had enough, and then the Saints
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: went out and smashed the Bengals so much, Stow scoring
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: fifty points. The Tarall Austin, the Bengals coordinator, lost his show. Right. Well,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I think Peyton offered to pay for it. I think
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: with fifty one points, I think maybe the Saints can
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: pull it out of their pocket. And then the Nathan
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Peterman's story, Uh cut loose. Twelve games, four starts, twelve interceptions. Yeah, yeah,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: that's not very good. Numbers don't live. Yeah, the pride
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: of Bartram High made it into the NFL, and we'll
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: see if he finds his way to a practice squad
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: or something. Obviously a guy with some talent, but in
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: Buffalo it was not working. Remember the five picks he
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: threw in Los Angeles last year. Yeah, So anyway, he's
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: done as a bill. We'll see where he lands. That's
• 43:42
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• 43:44
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  Speaker 1: eight Tuesday morning, Brian Ashland and you all know Jeff Lockerman,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm behind the bench a lot on the field
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: level during the game, and so I can't quite see
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: all the you know, the maneuverings by the coaching staff.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: So I recognized, obviously everyone did that the defense played
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: dramatically better in the second half. And so um, I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: asked you as I walked into the locker room, I
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: wanted to know, did they do anything different? And that's
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the day you look at me like you you can
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: see it. Uh No, they didn't, did they know? They
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: did absolutely nothing different. Execution in the first half was
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: at times embarrassing, and look, they don't run a complex
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: defense here in Jacksonville. I mean, it's a if you
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: had to rank the Jaguars defense as far as the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: complexity of it, it would probably fall into the bottom eight.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: They just have to do it better, very simple. Their
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: belief is to do things simple and do it fast
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: and uh. And that's the disappointing part because there's not
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: a whole lot of intricacies to learn. Some of the
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: mental breakdowns were just elementary stuff. You know, cover zero.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Cover zero is you got a man and if you're
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: the safety and there's one tight end on the field,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: you've got them. And that's Barry Church for the twelve
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: yard touchdown the Eric Keybron early in the ball game,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the long touchdown pass to eric Keybron it's cover three
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: or three deep zone and if you're the corner, you
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: have what they call is like bail technique, So you
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: have to peel back and go back to a deep
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: third and Jalen Ramsey checks up on t Y Hilton
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: and there goes eric Hebron bird touchdown. And that's Jalen
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Ramsey's job all the way. And the one that was
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: really hard to understand was the crossing route by t
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Y Hilton and Jalen Ramsey was covering t y as
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: if it was zoned and was passing it off to
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: either a safety or a corner on the other side.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: And a lot of times you see that happen, and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: then the safety cuts because the guy, the receiver on
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: the other side is running vertical to clear that corner out,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and so the safety cuts underneath to cover that guy,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: and Jellen kind of sloughs off becomes the safety. It
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: was man, which is what he likes to do. If man,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: hello man versus his own. I mean, that's that's that's
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: probably one of the most clearing mistakes. I don't I
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: can't explain it, and it's so look, I mean, you try,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: there's eleven guys in the field, okay, but when a
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: player of Jalen's Billy, has a day like that, it's
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: hard not to say it. It's hard not to admit that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: That's it. Forty four regular season and postseason games for Jalen,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: and I think that's the worst game he's played. I
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: can't recall another one heat and I think ever looked
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: like that. Brian, you're talking about, Okay, why is this
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: team not winning? The good players and the great players
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: have to play good and great. So let's go back
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: to the Philadelphi Eagles game on defense, we're talking about
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: just the defense. I thought that was Telvin Smith's worst,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: worst game as a pro. Okay, he's supposed to be
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: really good football player, Okay, and then the next week
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: you're all pro Corner has his worst game as a pro,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: arguably your best player. So how are you exposed to
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: win when you're when you're great, players aren't playing very good,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: and that's very hard, very hard to overcome, and it's
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: hard to explain. Twenty nine points in the first half
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: is inexcusable. And a lot of people say, well, you
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: don't get rid of the coach. Wait a minute, I
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: mean didn't do anything different. The coach is not lining
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: up and playing, you know. And as Doug Morone talked
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: about yesterday in his press conference that look, we executed
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: very well and had a good week of practice and
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: then for whatever reason things didn't happen in the game. Well,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: that's on the players to transform transfer what happens in
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: practice and what happens in the meeting rooms to the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: field on game day. So, uh, that's that needs to change.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: If this team is gonna get any win, any wins
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: going forward. Um. Another star player who produced a hundred
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: and six yards of offense and two touchdowns but could
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: have produced at a much higher level was Leonard for net.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Do you suppose that some of the missed cuts, some
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: of the bigger runs that were there were result of
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: him thinking too much about his hamstring and not wanting
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: to kick it into fifth year? Well, I'm not Sigmund Freud,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: and I can't explain why. But Brian I charted five
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: plays a matter of fact, let me look at my
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: notes here, because I've got them. Well, I saw you
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: down there burning that tape up, and it was let
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: me go back, which you always do. But this had
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: to be a very interesting game from that perspective. Okay,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: it was playing number thirty five, fifty four and sixty five.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: This is offensive plays. Play number thirty five. He slows
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: down for no reason. That's when Malik Hooker is up
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: over the top of him. Accelerate downhill on that guy.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: What are you worried about? Melik Hooker is gonna blow
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: you up? No? Forty one hasn't it. I won't, right,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I won't say what I wrote down for number forty
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: four or number sixty five, number fifty four, So that
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: and that. So that tells me I'm not going to
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: open it all the way up. I think I think that,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: uh as we saw him last year with the wave
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: on Mike Mitchell. I mean, he's not a guy who
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: shot us from content very rarely. Well, will I ever
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: give Basselly credit for having a poignant comment, But I'm
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go ahead and give him credit because
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: during the game he said this, and he says that
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Leonard four Nett, on this one particular play, said he
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: needs to be the hammer and not the nail, which
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: that means that he needs to be the one that
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: takes it to the defensive back instead of a defensive
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: back taking it to him. And that that's what you
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: saw with Leonard. There were plays to where he I
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: don't want to say he was trying to avoid contact
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: or shine away from contact or afraid of contact, but
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: it kind of looked that way, you know, to where look.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, you've got you your two hundred and thirty
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: pounds to whatever is nowadays, they're scared of you. Keep
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: the fear in them. Because what I saw in this
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: game wasn't what I saw last year in Pittsburgh with
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: this well, and it was I'm looking up at the
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: board to see and from the board's perspective, where you
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: don't get the big broad perspective that you get, I
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: can see where the holes are and why are you
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: running away from it? Again? You can't explain that? And
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I give him credit because I think he gave them
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: productivity that they hadn't had. Did you hear the stat
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: eight points per game in the three games with Leonard
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: thirteen point eight in the six games without believe it?
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: So clearly he's an impactful player. Yes, But then you
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: look at the numbers and you break down the numbers,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: what was it? What was the two point two yards?
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's not what you expect from the fourth over.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean you're talking about trying to
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: find a generational franchise back and I think he's done.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: He hasn't done anything that's kind of come close to that, right.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: So I was really impressed with the Colts offensive line.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: They're young and they're good. Quentin Nelson and people have
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: seen it on Twitter now what he did to Bury
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Church and Millie Jackson took the runt of a double
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: team that Nelson was the hammer on. Um, they're really good.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: So so how good is the Jaguars offensive line coming
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: into the Pittsburgh game without Brandon Linder? Well he lost
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: their best player in Brandon Lender. Ye yeah, yeah, so
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: that's that's not good. By the way. To go back
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: to the Colts offensive line, of him credit, they did
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: a really good job as far as not many people
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: would want to draft a guard six overall and a
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: center two years ago. Yeah so, and uh so give
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: him credit for doing that. And Quentin Nelson is a
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: fantastic player. He has to change the mindset of that team.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: But you know, I was talking to Bobby Johnson, who
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: you know, there's just an offensive line coach for the
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: coach exactly and uh he works with the offensive line
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: obviously there And I asked him, I said, what's what's
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: been the biggest change besides drafting a guy like Quenton Nelson?
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: And he said that the addition of Matt Slawson in
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: their room made a tremendous difference. And Matt Slawson has
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: been a good football player for a while for different teams,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: and he's bounced around a lot, but when when you
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: get the right people in the room, it can change
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: the dynamic of a team, and it can change the
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: dynamic of a room. And Matt s Lawson and Quentin
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Nelson have helped do that for the Indiapolis Cult because
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: we all know after seeing it firsthand, now that's not
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: the same team in the same off into line that
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: we saw over the last number of years for the
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: end because Peyton Manning got rid of the balls and
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Andrew Luck would bail him out by creating some plays
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: on his own, but they couldn't get him hit anymore.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Much different, much different, And credit the Cults for doing that.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: As far as the Jaguars offensive line against Pittsburgh this week,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: especially in those two ends to it and Hayward, they're good.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: They've got some other guys that can that can bring
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: it to Chicklow. The outside backers a good player. T J.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Watts a good player. Bud Dupre is a good player.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: The hard part about the Pittsburgh Steelers is figuring out
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: who's gonna come. And so if you're not assignment clean
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: against the Pittsburgh Steelers, when you get in the second
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: and third and long, you're in trouble and who makes
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: all the calls for the offensive line. Center the center does. Now,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: he did a pretty good job. If I recall last
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: year in October when we went up there because Linder
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: was was down for the count with that illness. Um,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: so I guess you kind of have a glimmer of
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: hope that that Chatly knows what he's doing. Yes, and
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: you feel good about that, but it's still it's just
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: it's not it's not what you've had. So so that's
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: the thing. And I don't what game was that that
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Chatlee was starting for the offensive line. It was I
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: think it's second or third, second or third game, So
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: we kind of had a chance until here. Now Shatley
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: is gonna be you know. But I got confidence that Chatlee.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: He's a smart football player. But it's still it's just
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: not Linder. We've been talking and we've been talking about
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: this for weeks. This is a talented roster, it's not
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: playing very well. At what point do you have to
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: stop saying that. I mean, this week, you'd think, Jeff,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I would think this would be that last stand kind
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: of game, not because the playoffs would totally be done then,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: but because this is the Steelers and if you can't
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: get your dander up for this kind of a game. Yeah,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: that's uh, this is the game. And I made a
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: comment earlier because the last couple of weeks I've had
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: zero confidence And this is a game that I think
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: that this football team may end up playing well, you know,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: just because it is the Pittsburgh Steelers and they lost
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: six in a row. And it's one of those games
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: where you see in the National Football League you don't
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: expect the team that's lost six in a row to
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: beat a team like the Pittsburgh Steelers. But this team
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: historically is played unbelievable against the Pittsburgh Stealers. So they
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: might win. No, no, heck no. And it's Ben Roethlisberger
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: who probably would like to have a little payback against
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense especially, but the defense would like to
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: be able to probably make a statement themselves this week
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: after making a pretty bad statement last week. Um, how
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: about a final thought, because we've just been talking about
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: what's wrong and that what happens when you lose five
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: in a row. But give a guy on on each
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: side of the ball that you like the way they're playing,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: you're encouraged by what what they're doing right now, some
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: of they deserves to be mentioned by you. I think, well,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: first of all, Blake's game this past game, I thought
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: it was he's the m v P on offense by far.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: On defense, I thought Abrey Jones played really well, really well.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: And Calais and it's not a hidden yeah, hidden kind
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: of gems to speak of pro but but man calais
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the place that he made against the run. He's just
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: so strong, long, he's so dominant when he when he
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: gets ahold of a guy, they're down, they're done. You know.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: So Look, there's not a whole lot of positive offensive
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: line of like because that's kind of the hidden part
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: that you can find. On offense, everybody's kind of taking
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: a turn to screw up, you know, with whether it's
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Josh Walker he messes up, or nor else stepping on
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the quarterback's foot and then he gets put onto his tail.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Linda even had some plays over the last couple of
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: weeks that haven't been his best. He got blown up
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: in a run game on one particular play early in
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the game by the defensive tackle uh Al Woods. Uh
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: A j Can had a bad play late in the
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: ball game. Jeremy Parnell had a couple of plays that
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: were bad. And that's the problem with his team is
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: that it's it's a merry go round. Okay, he makes
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: a mistake, then he makes a mistake, and he makes
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: a mistake, and he makes a mistaken on offense. We
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: know that. Look, if if there's no continuity and consistency,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: there's no chance. On defense, you can get away with
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: it a little bit, but when it's bad game, bad game,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: bad game, you can't overcome that. Hey, by the way, uh,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Eric Flowers get into the game, how did he do?
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I know he's get a little bit. Okay, So it's
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: not like you said, well he's got to start this week. No,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: but I think he continue to get him reps because
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: where where Josh Walker struggles, which was at the end
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: of the game, and it was Tae Kwon Lewis who
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: was newly activated the Colts roster. He was a rookie
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: draft pick second round. Ohio State was about ready to
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: work Josh Walker over if there was some more reps
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: that were happening there. It was about to get ugly.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: And uh, and Eric Flowers has more length to combat that.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Not saying that he's a better player because Josh Walker.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I like Josh Walker. He's scrappy, he's tough, he's a
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: guard plane tackle. I think he's got a future with
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: this football team. And a j Can contract is up
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: next year, and maybe Josh Walker is gonna be in
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: the compete for that spot. Preview of a film er
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: in Friday. What you gonna do. I'm gonna look at
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: the Steelers offense and defense, and offensively in particular James
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Conner and what he has meant to this football team.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers vastly different from Levy on Bell and
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I and I'm not I don't know this because I'm not.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Sigmund Freud has explained earlier. But I would bet you
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: that the offensive line in Pittsburgh appreciates James Conner more
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: than a Levy on Bell because he's a hard nose
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: follow their block. He's gonna run where he's supposed to
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: go right, you know, and he's one of the top
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: backs in the league. And then defensively, we're gonna look
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: at the pressure packages in the importance of the quarterback
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: identifying who can be blocked and who can't be blocked.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: That's critical. So look for that from Jeff Film Room.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Friday coming up in a couple of days. Next for
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: your time. As always, we greatly appreciate it. Jeff Lockman,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan for Joe Fortunado and Stone Cold in the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: other room, we certainly appreciate you joining us Happy Hour.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Coming your away this afternoon at four. Have a great Tuesday, everybody.
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