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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Let's Hand Out Some Season Awards! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  It's Sunday.
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  We're back.
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  We're doing season-ending awards.
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  MVP, most improved, rookie of the year.
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  Who do you got?
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  Let's find out next.
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  What is going on, everybody?
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  Welcome to Sunday, Sunday,
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  Sunday night CrossFit talk.
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  All this week,
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  we went live and my printer decided to
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  clean the jets.
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  We went live.
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  Wow.
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  You're not early.
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  You're right on time.
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  Yeah.
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  bam yo nice to see everybody in the
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  chat um we're gonna have a fun night
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  tonight we're gonna do some season-ending
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  awards we're gonna play pencil pen sharpie
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  and bring it back by popular demand but
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  until then how was your guys's weekend
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  mine has just been doing a lot of
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  work like yesterday i was studying for my
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  l three today was all school work um
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  yeah
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  l three yeah i know you were i
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  know you were trying because if you win
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  certain things you got like a free l
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  two or l one and you taught didn't
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  you talk to dave about could that be
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  used or traded in for an l three
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  yeah i've had i've had a few times
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  where i've gone like a free l one
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  or l two in the last few years
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  and then they can also give you um
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  oftentimes I'll be like two or three
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  courses online and I got an L three
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  now to study for.
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  So nice.
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  we'll see how that goes.
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  I can book it from way further away,
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  but I feel like if I start studying
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  now, I'm going to forget.
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  It's like, I just need to cram everything.
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  And then it's like fresh in my mind
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  versus booking it way down the road.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm just having to reread again because
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  like you just forget a few things.
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  Yeah.
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  Like, Oh,
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  that's just the way that my mind works.
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  What a nice guy.
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  He waits until his cohost lions game is
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  finished.
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  I can,
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  that game was over two hours ago.
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  Well, yes,
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  but almost every possession that was
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  freaking amazing.
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  He doesn't always wait for it to be
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  over.
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  Sometimes we go live when it's on or
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  starting.
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  Well, my wife is a big Steelers fan.
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  It's happening right now.
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  We usually watch those things together.
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  So it's a bummer.
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  That's the only bad thing about Sunday
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  Night CrossFit talk is it bumps up against
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  Sunday Night Football,
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  and it is a bit of a bummer.
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  But, hey –
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  This is our time slot,
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  and we're getting good at it.
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  So we're going to figure it out.
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  I'll be back upstairs for the second half.
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  Yep.
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  So speaking of, the Bears,
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  for the eighteenth week in a row,
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  have given me a heart attack.
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  Yes.
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  But come through in the end,
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  and are now six and freaking three.
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  Are you kidding me?
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  Wow.
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  I can't even believe it.
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  Like...
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  I need to see some scores.
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  And now the Bears are like putting their
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  locker room celebrations on Instagram and
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  all that stuff.
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  And Ben Johnson's like,
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  our guy has ice in his veins.
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  And it's just getting me all pumped up,
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  goosebumps, the whole bit.
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  So that was just freaking awesome.
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  Yep.
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  Caleb Williams came through for me again
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  with another twenty five points.
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  I kind of have stopped looking at my
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  fantasy stuff.
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  I don't have good players.
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  Actually.
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  I'm in the lead right now in my
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  mind from this week.
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  You went in this week.
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  That's good so far, but it's not very,
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  it's not looking good.
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  I am crushing Andrew Sten right now.
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  My defense scored two touchdowns this
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  week.
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  I had Jonathan Taylor who scored like.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  That's a Wisconsin grad.
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  Yeah, he's unreal.
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  Yeah, JT.
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  We'll see you next week, Ken Walters.
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  Bears-Vikings next weekend.
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  I'll be watching the Bears.
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  I hate the Vikings.
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  Yeah.
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  I've always hated them for some reason.
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  Sometimes even more than the Packers,
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  and that's hard.
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  I was going to say,
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  I thought Packers would be your rival,
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  but yeah.
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  Andrew Sten says, yeah, rub it in.
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  It's been a good week on that side.
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  Yeah, I think I'm up too.
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  On another note,
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  did you guys happen to see any of
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  the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductions
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  last night?
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  I did not.
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  I saw that on your list.
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  I didn't see any of it.
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  and i was it was so good there
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  were four bands i was really there for
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  and it was bad company uh who i've
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  seen in concert and i love them it's
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  just a shame that they're so old that
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  only one member could be there to accept
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  and then they do a tribute and then
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  salt and peppa came out with spinderella
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  and they crushed it and then out of
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  nowhere and vogue comes out on the stage
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  and they do what a man
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  with salt and pepper and then kid and
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  play come out.
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  It was like,
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  I was back as a freshman in college,
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  like listening to the jams.
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  It was so good.
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  And then outcast was inducted, uh,
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  who I love from the two thousands and,
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  um, and then sound garden, sound gardens,
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  a major influence in my life.
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  And it's just a shame.
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  Chris Cornell wasn't there, but they had,
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  um,
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  Oh, gosh, Tyler,
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  Taylor Monson from the pretty reckless and
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  bullet.
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  Carlisle.
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  What's your name?
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  Like, I'm just blanking.
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  Randy Carlisle.
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  Oh, for Chris Cornell,
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  and both of them absolutely crushed it.
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  Brandi Carlisle did black hole son and it
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  was phenomenal.
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  Yeah,
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  I saw your post about Salt-N-Pepa and I
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  was like, was he after, like,
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  I was like, did I miss something?
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  Did they have a concert somewhere?
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  No,
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  Julie and I were just watching it and
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  it was like taking us back to when
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  we were first dating and even before that.
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  But I can't have to laugh with the
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  trivia.
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  Taylor Momsen was also Cindy Lou Who from
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  the Jim Carrey Grinch movie.
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  Fun fact.
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  And if you've ever heard the pretty
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  reckless, it is nothing like a Dr.
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  Seuss book.
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  She is phenomenal.
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  Heavy metal singer.
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  Pretty, pretty awesome.
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  One of my favorite bands is the pretty
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  reckless.
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  They're coming to Columbus next May with
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  hail storm and shine down.
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  And I was like, I want,
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  but it's right when semifinals are
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  happening.
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  So it just,
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  it's probably not going to happen, but.
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  They also named Hockey Hall of Fame people
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  this weekend, too.
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  Oh, wow.
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  And one of my ex-teammates, line mate,
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  is in it.
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  So I was happy to see her.
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  Oh, that's awesome.
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  Oh, very cool.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, speaking of hockey,
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  MSU beat Penn State this weekend.
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  Wow.
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  Yeah.
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  That's big.
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  It was a really good –
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  sports weekend for michigan state um we we
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  had a bye obviously for football so
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  everything else went great line basketball
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  we won on saturday i had a bye
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  in football lions won and hockey they won
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  so yeah it was good usa spank canada
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  too in the women's rivalry series this
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  weekend so
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  and and for carolyn wisconsin got their
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  first football win in like months again
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  against a ranked team it was like the
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  first time in a few in a couple
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  years i think all right we've been we've
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  been just bad the last few years and
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  like we've always been really good like
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  always a ball game we used to have
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  the rose wall time now we just we
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  just suck
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  Cross that says hockey hall of fame waits
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  way too long for people to get super
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  old to let them in.
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  That's how I feel about the rock and
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  roll hall of fame.
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  Let these people in when they can,
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  they can accept and they can play.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean,
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  some of the hockey ones they named this
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  time have recently retired.
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  So I don't think it's too bad.
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  Yeah.
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  Wisconsin storming the field felt sad.
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  loved it loved it Penn State took Indiana
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  to the brink number two in the country
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  Indiana if and I and I swear that
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  the kids would have stormed the field and
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  it would have been like pathetic you've
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  lost five in a row you don't deserve
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  to storm the field right now it's weird
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  seeing Florida dominating in hockey
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  Panthers and lightning it is kind of a
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  little weird
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  I mean,
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  they have a bunch of Canadians on their
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  team, so.
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  Yeah.
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  The Penguins have looked good this year.
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  They weren't picked to do well,
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  but they look good.
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  I haven't watched too much NHL so far
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  this year.
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  I have a little bit of the Habs.
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  I'm a Habs fan and they're doing well
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  this year.
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  I just have a second TV.
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  I throw up sports while we're watching
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  other stuff.
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  So I just glanced at it while I'm
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  going through it.
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  But yeah.
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  I think that's part of an addiction,
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  but we'll see.
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  All right.
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  And the funniest thing this week is I
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  have this AI tool that I now make
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  reels with.
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  I just plug our show into it.
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  It picks reels and cuts them for me.
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  It saves me a ton of time.
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  And so I just put them up throughout
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  the week.
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  Our biggest reel this week was Corey and
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  I talking about the chicken,
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  whether they need to rooster or for the
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  egg to be fertilized or how that works.
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  it got way more views than any other
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  reel i put up isn't that wild that's
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  so strange wow like is it people is
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  it just other people outside of space
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  catching it and finding it i don't know
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  like you just get shared to like one
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  place that it takes off or yeah that's
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  crazy yeah crazy you guys have some
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  interesting conversations
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  Yeah,
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  we're begging for a Sriracha sponsorship.
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  I know.
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  I will not be helping you.
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  Oh, I love that stuff.
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  Every day for breakfast.
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  It's crazy.
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  We all had to watch it several times
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  to make sure that's what all the real
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  was.
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  Yeah.
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  It's because they can circumvent the cap
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  with no state income tax in Florida.
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  I lived in Florida for four years.
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  That is a very nice perk.
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  No state income tax makes the check a
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  little bit bigger.
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  About fifteen percent bigger.
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  Nice.
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  Yeah.
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  So the last thing I wanted to talk
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  about, and I don't have the link.
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  I'm so bad today.
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  The weather is killing my sinuses.
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  But Holly built a document after last
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  Sunday's show that she broke down every
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  single semifinal and everything she could
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  find on it and then links to every
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  place she found the information.
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  And it's out there.
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  There's a link to it from her Instagram
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  page, which is DataWad.
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  If you have any questions about semifinals
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  at all.
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  And what we've kind of learned is there
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  is no geographic restriction,
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  but some semifinals are taking a part of
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  and inviting from their region.
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  And then the rest of it is opened
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  up to the world.
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  Yeah,
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  I feel like this has been discussed a
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  bit,
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  but it does seem like the top twenty
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  out of quarterfinals are going to get
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  invited everywhere and then that's it.
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  They're not going to go everywhere,
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  so it's just a dumb way to look
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  at it.
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  You're going to have to pay a bunch
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  if you want to accept your spot at
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  a bunch of different places.
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  Some of them are at the same weekend,
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  so they will have to choose eventually.
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  It'll trickle down.
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  I mean, I just think it's not,
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  I think it should have, I don't know.
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  That's something I think they're gonna
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  have to think about in the future.
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  Like pick two at the beginning of the
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  season, put your bed in and you get,
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  you get two up to two.
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  That's it.
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  Like if you want one,
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  you can make one.
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  If you want to,
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  you can go to two.
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  I think it's, it could,
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  it should almost be,
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  you go to one and then you have
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  your last chance qualifier,
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  which is the online.
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  Yeah.
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  I think you only should go to one.
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  What's that?
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  The more I thought about this week,
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  I'm with you.
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  Makes it easier.
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  One online.
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  Yeah.
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  Cause that is a last chance qualifier.
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  And it's not like if you picked one
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  that had a bunch of people,
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  it's not like you're done.
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  You still technically do have another
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  shot.
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  It's just online, but it's there.
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  It wasn't there before when we had
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  regionals or semifinals and one shot at
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  it.
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  So it's at least a little bit more
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  from that.
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  I really wish it was either use the
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  open or qualifiers.
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  And then we, well,
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  I would just correct that too.
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  I either use the quarterfinals or
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  qualifiers.
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  Um, and we knew that all of them,
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  um,
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  and then they'll end up with no shows
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  in short fields.
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  I hope that they're doing like magic city
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  and they're putting a very strict timeline
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  on, right.
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  You have so many hours to, to accept.
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  And then we're moving on to the next
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  group.
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  Yeah.
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  Um,
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  And then John also says,
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  whose programming can we trust?
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  I got to say,
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  I'm still really bummed that they didn't
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  combine the open and quarterfinals into
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  one big score,
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  especially to whittle this down to the top
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  twenty to start to filter that.
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  Like that gets you a broader picture.
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  I think, I think we talked,
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  we've talked about this so many times,
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  but you get a way better picture of
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  the athlete when you have all of these
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  tests that everyone did.
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  Why would some of them just not count?
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  Like if you're moving on to the
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  quarterfinals,
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  all the videos are public and all the
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  scores count.
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  I agree.
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  Maybe next year we'll keep,
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  we'll keep harping on it.
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  I like this.
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  CrossFit says,
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  I think comps should get some sort of
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  reward for sending athletes that place
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  well at the games.
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  No,
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  because people want to qualify early in
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  the season.
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  So a lot of them will pick,
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  let's say,
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  Mayhem because they want to get more time
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  to train for the games.
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  So does that mean that that event was
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  better or you just had better people show
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  up because it's earlier in the season?
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  I don't think that that would necessarily
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  mean that that competition was...
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  The best, just because it's first.
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  Although, last year,
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  I would argue Mayhem was definitely the
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  top one.
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  But if you keep sending people that finish
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  twenty-eighths, twenty-ninth,
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  and thirtieth, is that,
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  should you be rewarded to have three spots
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  every year?
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  Or be like, okay,
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  because your people are always finishing
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  at the tail end,
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  we're reducing your spots to two or one.
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  Well, that...
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  that's like saying like,
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  should Africa have a semi-final?
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  I mean,
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  people get injured too at the games.
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  Like if you get all of a sudden
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  a withdrawal, like what happens?
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  I'm saying consistently, not just one.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't,
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  it's just so hard because the games is
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  different programming.
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  Like it's just, it's completely different.
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  You can do well at open quarters,
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  semifinals,
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  and then you just have different stuff
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  that shows up at the games.
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  You can either be better at that stuff
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  or worse.
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  It's all program dependent,
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  except for Tia.
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  So if Tia is here and compete that
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  syndicate versus at home and compete that
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  Torian, what like, I don't know.
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  That's a geographic thing kind of,
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  and unless we're trying to limit it by
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  geography,
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  like I don't see the point in necessarily
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  doing that.
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  I could say, yes,
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  I totally agree with you if,
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  if we were still geographically bound.
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  like we should take away spots from Africa
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  if they can't even send people who can
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  finish.
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  When last year may have programmed every
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  event.
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  So who do you punish?
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  It's the same programmer for all.
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  Yeah.
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  But is it,
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  it's the fact that athletes don't want to
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  clearly travel and compete at that comp.
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  So you're not getting good athletes there.
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  So then the best athlete that made it
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  can't even finish in the top.
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  They're they're,
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  They're from twenty fifth to thirtieth.
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  And that's like if that's consistently
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  happening,
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  that's clearly not a place that should
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  hold a hold a semifinal.
• 18:12
  Nobody wants to go there.
• 18:13
  Nobody wants it like.
• 18:15
  They were already what show they were
• 18:16
  doing,
• 18:17
  trying to pick where all these athletes
• 18:19
  would go compete.
• 18:19
  And there's like two comps that are like
• 18:21
  going to take the twenty fifth person.
• 18:24
  Like so it's like saying like.
• 18:28
  Colton should fly over to cope with her
• 18:31
  and take that spot.
• 18:35
  But will he, I don't know.
• 18:36
  I mean,
• 18:39
  but until people like someone takes that
• 18:42
  opportunity and takes a spot and makes it
• 18:44
  worthwhile, it's, it's,
• 18:46
  it's kind of proving that that comp
• 18:48
  shouldn't even happen.
• 18:49
  Like nobody wants to go there.
• 18:53
  Yeah.
• 18:56
  I guess we'll see.
• 18:57
  I mean,
• 18:57
  we'll see what comes out of those couples.
• 19:00
  Ma'am does a ton.
• 19:01
  Great.
• 19:01
  I think the spin boys were crying about
• 19:03
  how much they squatted.
• 19:05
  Rich made a little comment.
• 19:07
  They are informed in the space.
• 19:11
  nothing wrong with a bunch of squatting i
• 19:12
  mean i just think so many workouts are
• 19:14
  so dependent on upper body push and pull
• 19:16
  so i'm okay with more squatting same like
• 19:19
  everything that like it's just yeah i'm
• 19:22
  okay with that yeah we see a lot
• 19:24
  more pulling and pushing than we do lower
• 19:25
  body dominant workouts it's better than no
• 19:27
  consistently right like we didn't like
• 19:31
  when there was no squatting if you had
• 19:37
  a sponsor that would send you to copus
• 19:38
  or why not
• 19:41
  agree agree well like if you're ty jenkins
• 19:47
  and your big sponsor is adidas why
• 19:50
  wouldn't adidas say hey come to europe and
• 19:53
  do the comp here with us yeah i
• 19:56
  agree like because it could be tight at
• 20:00
  syndicate like that wouldn't be a bad idea
• 20:02
  for him
• 20:04
  And that's just an example.
• 20:05
  I'm not picking Ty out of the mix.
• 20:09
  I know his sponsor is a European-based
• 20:11
  sponsor, so it just makes sense.
• 20:13
  Why not send them over, any of them,
• 20:16
  Sidney Wells, any of them,
• 20:18
  over to Europe where they can train at
• 20:22
  the Adidas headquarters and do whatever?
• 20:27
  Wayne Short says, or James Sprague.
• 20:29
  See,
• 20:29
  I think James is at a point where
• 20:30
  he can just go wherever.
• 20:34
  where Ty is not quite there yet.
• 20:36
  Kenny, though?
• 20:36
  I mean, I don't know.
• 20:38
  I kind of agree with you.
• 20:40
  If he's proved anything this year,
• 20:43
  he's proved he can go anywhere.
• 20:44
  If all four of those boys choose legends
• 20:48
  to go to Del Mar, that's a problem.
• 20:54
  Okay.
• 20:55
  I mean,
• 20:55
  do I think he could be the one
• 20:57
  that takes it?
• 20:58
  Uh, depends on how Bob and Joe program,
• 21:00
  if they go their heavy machine,
• 21:02
  like he might be the one that's out.
• 21:04
  Yeah.
• 21:10
  Ty Ty was competing this weekend.
• 21:12
  There was a comp in like Puerto Rico.
• 21:14
  There's a few good athletes that are
• 21:15
  there.
• 21:17
  The it's called a beetle extravaganza.
• 21:21
  Okay.
• 21:23
  And like on the woman's side,
• 21:25
  there's Hannah black fee, uh,
• 21:27
  Jenny Chevry, Ariel Sanders, scuds, uh,
• 21:33
  a couple Mesa.
• 21:34
  I actually, she's ended up withdrawing,
• 21:36
  but a couple of people,
• 21:37
  Quintero from the games looks like a solid
• 21:39
  field.
• 21:39
  And on the men's side,
• 21:41
  Ty was ties there.
• 21:43
  Tola.
• 21:43
  Oh,
• 21:46
  So some good athletes there.
• 21:48
  Small field, but good athletes.
• 21:51
  Didn't even hear about it.
• 21:52
  And we have desert city this weekend too.
• 21:55
  Yeah.
• 21:56
  Shout out to Liz who won nice on
• 22:00
  the female side.
• 22:02
  I know Scott pancheck programs that for
• 22:05
  them every year.
• 22:06
  Um,
• 22:07
  so I see stuff through his feed and
• 22:09
  of course the burgers are big friends with
• 22:12
  them.
• 22:12
  So.
• 22:13
  we hear about that, but, um,
• 22:15
  I wish there was a way to stream
• 22:17
  stuff like that.
• 22:17
  Just a cheap stream.
• 22:19
  Doesn't have to be like the big one,
• 22:21
  like just the desert one, Lauren Khalil,
• 22:25
  um,
• 22:25
  did like a recap video broadcasting of the
• 22:29
  final heats.
• 22:29
  So those are on YouTube.
• 22:30
  I was watching those cause I was watching
• 22:33
  Liz the entire weekend compete.
• 22:35
  Um, so those were nice to have like,
• 22:38
  they weren't live,
• 22:39
  but they would be uploaded pretty fast in
• 22:42
  the evening and stuff.
• 22:48
  CrossFit says that the Puerto Rican one
• 22:50
  sounds very much like a crash-level field.
• 22:54
  I think there's good prize money there,
• 22:55
  which probably attracted a lot of the
• 22:57
  athletes if they got invites.
• 23:00
  Yeah,
• 23:01
  that's the key to a lot these days,
• 23:03
  I think.
• 23:05
  Nice prize money,
• 23:06
  you're going to get some nice athletes.
• 23:10
  All right, so...
• 23:13
  One more quick thing,
• 23:14
  and then we'll get into some season
• 23:15
  awards.
• 23:16
  There have been,
• 23:16
  since we really last talked,
• 23:19
  more withdrawals at WFP.
• 23:20
  Lexi Neely announced that she was going to
• 23:22
  have to withdraw.
• 23:23
  Of course, Sam Quant,
• 23:24
  after the injury at Rogue,
• 23:26
  was forced to withdraw.
• 23:29
  Emma Tall also had another shoulder injury
• 23:31
  at Rogue,
• 23:31
  even though there's been no announcement.
• 23:34
  That looks like a potential issue as well,
• 23:37
  because I know she's been battling that
• 23:38
  shoulder now for at least a year.
• 23:42
  She had it last year at Rogue as
• 23:45
  well.
• 23:48
  so um we're going to get into a
• 23:51
  little more of the wfp as we get
• 23:53
  to pencil pen and sharpie later on in
• 23:55
  the show but just wanted to say that
• 23:57
  there's some more withdrawals coming um
• 24:00
  and i know last week we hadn't pen
• 24:02
  pen pencil pen and sharpie uh jeff adler
• 24:05
  would he go after winning all this money
• 24:10
  and and then to point out that it's
• 24:12
  at christmas time it's gonna be wild
• 24:23
  I'm wondering if WFP is going to be
• 24:24
  like the first few years of golf FedEx
• 24:26
  cup.
• 24:29
  No one realized what was going on in
• 24:31
  year one.
• 24:33
  I do think that that is a problem
• 24:35
  that they have.
• 24:36
  I think that they didn't educate enough
• 24:39
  people on how the season works.
• 24:43
  So, yes, I agree with that.
• 24:46
  However, I've said this since day one.
• 24:49
  like to, in order to make it grow,
• 24:52
  you need the challengers to want to be
• 24:55
  there and incentivize them into a like
• 24:58
  realistic way of getting to these events.
• 25:00
  And this year there's definitely a shot
• 25:03
  for some of these challengers to get,
• 25:05
  take over a spot.
• 25:06
  So it probably would have made some sense
• 25:08
  for some people,
• 25:09
  but I feel like without like,
• 25:12
  you're throwing all this money at these
• 25:14
  pros that aren't even doing shit for the
• 25:18
  sport.
• 25:18
  Like they aren't,
• 25:19
  They aren't showing up consistently.
• 25:21
  I understand your guys' push for that,
• 25:25
  but you need to entice these challengers
• 25:29
  to be there to make it interesting,
• 25:31
  to see if they can take over a
• 25:33
  spot.
• 25:33
  And making people pay to go to three
• 25:36
  different stops, one of them overseas,
• 25:39
  is extremely hard for somebody who doesn't
• 25:41
  have a sponsor who is on the up
• 25:42
  and come up.
• 25:44
  So I don't see how this side of
• 25:48
  WFP grows.
• 25:49
  I mean,
• 25:50
  they just are going to get their top
• 25:51
  ten names and hope that they get viewers
• 25:55
  and sponsors.
• 25:56
  I don't know.
• 25:57
  Well, here's the issue.
• 26:00
  You can have all the challengers and you
• 26:02
  can incentivize them all you want.
• 26:03
  If nobody understands the season,
• 26:05
  they're not going to be able to do
• 26:06
  it.
• 26:07
  And I get crushed every time I say
• 26:09
  this.
• 26:10
  And I get crushed at work because...
• 26:13
  Where I work with unemployment,
• 26:15
  reemployment, there are acronyms,
• 26:17
  there are terms that we use internally
• 26:19
  that nobody outside of us understands what
• 26:22
  those acronyms or terms are.
• 26:24
  And if you use those in educating what
• 26:26
  unemployment is to the public,
• 26:28
  they would be so confused nobody would
• 26:30
  file.
• 26:31
  Right.
• 26:31
  Right.
• 26:32
  And I think that's what's happened with
• 26:33
  WFP.
• 26:34
  Right.
• 26:35
  Inside the sport,
• 26:36
  when you are designing the season,
• 26:38
  you understand what it is.
• 26:40
  But you're using terminology and terms
• 26:43
  that the outside people who don't watch
• 26:45
  sports every day can understand.
• 26:48
  And that is where...
• 26:51
  They got off on the wrong foot and
• 26:53
  cross fat.
• 26:54
  Yes.
• 26:54
  I was a big.
• 26:56
  Yeller screamer about they needed a cut
• 26:58
  line to show the people above the cut
• 27:01
  line, have what you want.
• 27:02
  The people below the cut line are trying
• 27:04
  to get up there to take what they,
• 27:06
  they can get.
• 27:07
  Yeah.
• 27:09
  And that didn't happen until after tour
• 27:11
  stop too,
• 27:14
  Holly and I made one before they did.
• 27:18
  And I think that that's the big issue.
• 27:21
  Because you have to talk about both the
• 27:23
  current state of the competition and then
• 27:26
  afterwards or during where like who's got
• 27:29
  the pro cards,
• 27:30
  who's kind of inside and out,
• 27:31
  like what the bubble line like
• 27:34
  continuously.
• 27:35
  I don't think the actual season is
• 27:36
  confusing at all.
• 27:38
  No,
• 27:39
  but if you don't watch sports like because
• 27:41
  there's a lot of people in CrossFit that
• 27:42
  don't watch pro sports.
• 27:45
  But I think the idea of having athletes
• 27:48
  that are pro athletes,
• 27:49
  that they get invited to everything,
• 27:50
  and then athletes that are trying to get
• 27:52
  the slots,
• 27:52
  just that basic idea is not that
• 27:54
  confusing.
• 27:55
  That challengers need to basically
• 27:58
  accumulate enough points to dethrone a
• 28:01
  pro.
• 28:02
  I don't think it's that complicated.
• 28:05
  To get what, though?
• 28:07
  Do we have any idea what they're...
• 28:10
  A pro card, I get it.
• 28:10
  But is it a ten thousand dollar contract?
• 28:12
  Is it thirty thousand?
• 28:13
  Is it like does anyone know exactly what
• 28:16
  they're trying to earn?
• 28:17
  Pro card to me is like that.
• 28:19
  You don't have to do a qualifier and
• 28:20
  you're automatically invited to the
• 28:22
  events.
• 28:22
  Just like you win a master's jacket.
• 28:24
  You get invited to the masters for the
• 28:26
  next however many years.
• 28:27
  The rest of your life.
• 28:29
  Yeah.
• 28:29
  So it's like.
• 28:32
  That to me is the pro card.
• 28:33
  The money can differentiate from placing
• 28:36
  the placing,
• 28:36
  depending on your season earnings.
• 28:38
  But I don't think that that is the
• 28:40
  huge deal.
• 28:40
  It's more just like you escape the
• 28:42
  qualifiers.
• 28:43
  You get,
• 28:43
  you get to go to all of the
• 28:44
  main events.
• 28:45
  You bypass.
• 28:47
  I don't think it's confusing.
• 28:49
  Colton is not a pro.
• 28:50
  Correct.
• 28:51
  He's still a challenger.
• 28:52
  He just got put in.
• 28:53
  After Copenhagen,
• 28:54
  the new twenty will be announced.
• 28:56
  Right.
• 28:56
  There were twenty announced.
• 28:58
  It stays that twenty until after
• 29:00
  Copenhagen when the final points are
• 29:02
  released and then the top twenty point
• 29:04
  getters get the next pro card.
• 29:10
  And everything in between is the battle to
• 29:12
  get into that top twenty.
• 29:15
  But I think the only confusing part of
• 29:17
  the season was how they chose the twenty
• 29:19
  at the beginning of the season.
• 29:21
  Once the season is done and the twenty
• 29:22
  have gone enough points and it's like
• 29:25
  easier to follow year to year,
• 29:26
  like those athletes got the top points of
• 29:29
  twenty twenty five.
• 29:30
  They start off getting invites to the
• 29:32
  major comps.
• 29:33
  The other one needs to fight for it
• 29:35
  to get points.
• 29:36
  And that's it.
• 29:37
  So I think that if you watch sports,
• 29:40
  Carolyn, you're correct.
• 29:42
  From the comments I've gotten on DMs and
• 29:44
  on YouTube,
• 29:45
  there is a group of people that don't
• 29:47
  watch sports regularly that have no idea
• 29:50
  what any of that means.
• 29:53
  They're so used to just CrossFit being a
• 29:55
  one-weekend competition.
• 29:58
  And at the end of that,
• 29:59
  there's a podium and whatever.
• 30:03
  Most sports...
• 30:06
  are literally like a league that you play
• 30:07
  during the season and then it's playoffs.
• 30:09
  It's the exact same thing.
• 30:12
  Why can't people explain it like that?
• 30:14
  It's literally the league and then the
• 30:15
  finals.
• 30:16
  It's not that...
• 30:18
  Why isn't it like the open quarterfinals
• 30:20
  games?
• 30:21
  Because it resets after every stage in
• 30:23
  CrossFit and that doesn't happen in a
• 30:25
  normal league.
• 30:28
  Well, it shouldn't.
• 30:28
  And that's what I've always said that I
• 30:31
  wanted to...
• 30:32
  It is more different than you...
• 30:34
  then we're letting on it than it is
• 30:36
  and i think that's why the approach wfp
• 30:38
  took and that's why they got into the
• 30:40
  spot they were i'm telling you i got
• 30:42
  so many comments of people who didn't
• 30:44
  understand
• 30:44
  I think it makes more sense than the
• 30:46
  CrossFit Games season in terms of you get
• 30:48
  points accumulated,
• 30:50
  and then here's the champion of the whole
• 30:51
  season with as many points.
• 30:53
  CrossFit, you could win open, quarters,
• 30:56
  open, quarters, semifinals.
• 30:58
  You could win all three, lose the games,
• 31:02
  and then you're not considered the
• 31:04
  fittest, right?
• 31:04
  Because it's just that one weekend.
• 31:07
  when you could have won all three prior
• 31:09
  with more events between all of those
• 31:11
  combined.
• 31:14
  For us sports nerds,
• 31:15
  I agree with you completely.
• 31:17
  It makes sense.
• 31:19
  If you don't watch sports ever,
• 31:20
  it doesn't make sense.
• 31:22
  And the only sport you've ever watched is
• 31:23
  CrossFit has never given you an example of
• 31:26
  a true season.
• 31:29
  I think people are just saying that
• 31:30
  because they have a negative opinion based
• 31:34
  off what people are saying in the space.
• 31:37
  I disagree.
• 31:38
  I think the points are extremely
• 31:39
  confusing.
• 31:40
  The fact that I can't...
• 31:45
  If it was like you said, Carolyn,
• 31:46
  I could just go and get points and
• 31:49
  But the fact that I can't do the
• 31:51
  same workout,
• 31:52
  like those challengers that are in a
• 31:53
  different heat and can only max out at
• 31:55
  two hundred fifty points is silly and it's
• 31:58
  confusing for them to acquire points to
• 32:00
  get.
• 32:02
  It's confusing,
• 32:03
  like getting out of the challenger and
• 32:05
  being able to compete in the pro heat
• 32:07
  is confusing.
• 32:10
  I don't think so, but.
• 32:13
  The point the point system does not make
• 32:15
  sense.
• 32:16
  I don't understand the point system for
• 32:18
  every competition of tennis or golf or
• 32:20
  anything like that.
• 32:20
  But once the rankings are there, I'm like,
• 32:23
  okay, sure.
• 32:24
  If they were really specific about the
• 32:25
  rankings and like Scott said,
• 32:27
  they had put, put out data around that.
• 32:29
  Yeah.
• 32:30
  I know.
• 32:31
  Had they done that,
• 32:32
  it would be a whole lot clearer.
• 32:34
  They had a post at the beginning that
• 32:36
  was like, spot one is this many points.
• 32:39
  They just need to do that more often.
• 32:42
  That's the only thing that's missing.
• 32:44
  Communicate the points more often.
• 32:46
  Communicate the leaderboard more often.
• 32:48
  That needs to be a continuous topic.
• 32:50
  Make it a graphic or picture that makes
• 32:52
  sense.
• 32:53
  Let's say something that's not WFP.
• 32:55
  The duel at Rogue.
• 32:57
  They made that graphic at Rogue,
• 32:59
  and all of a sudden,
• 33:01
  understanding what the duel is became so
• 33:03
  much easier for everyone, for everybody.
• 33:09
  You see it all played out.
• 33:12
  Top ten moved to here,
• 33:13
  top five moved to here,
• 33:15
  top three moved to whatever.
• 33:18
  It's the same principle.
• 33:19
  Yes.
• 33:25
  Um, Ken Walters.
• 33:26
  That's why when you're first in any sport,
• 33:29
  the next one's never survived.
• 33:31
  ABA, WHA, USFL, XFL, world tennis,
• 33:34
  try different twist on the original rules.
• 33:38
  Uh,
• 33:38
  but there have been some successes like
• 33:40
  the AFL did merge with the NFL.
• 33:43
  Um, so I will argue a tiny bit.
• 33:48
  Um,
• 33:53
  T-Bird, completely agree with Carolyn.
• 33:55
  The media helps to educate others on the
• 33:57
  ever-changing CrossFit season and how to
• 34:00
  qualify each year.
• 34:00
  The media could help more to educate about
• 34:03
  the WFP.
• 34:05
  I would argue I tried to do that,
• 34:06
  and everybody got mad at me.
• 34:08
  No, you were doing great.
• 34:09
  That's what was needed.
• 34:10
  I think at one point they had a
• 34:14
  thing about Bethany was in the hunt,
• 34:17
  and she was out.
• 34:18
  And I'm like,
• 34:19
  this is making no sense to anybody because
• 34:21
  she's not in the hunt.
• 34:22
  She is not even competing.
• 34:27
  All right, let's get to some fun stuff.
• 34:30
  We're going to talk about the
• 34:31
  season-ending awards.
• 34:35
  Prior to the WFP finals.
• 34:39
  Well, let's be honest.
• 34:41
  It's a slow week.
• 34:43
  There's not a lot of news.
• 34:44
  CrossFit didn't make any announcements
• 34:46
  this week on their podcast.
• 34:50
  And so we've got to make up content.
• 34:52
  So we're doing season ending awards.
• 34:54
  Maybe we'll revisit it in December after
• 34:56
  WFP and see if it changes at all.
• 35:00
  Okay.
• 35:01
  So I'm going to do this in reverse
• 35:03
  because I should save the biggest for the
• 35:05
  last, right?
• 35:06
  Okay.
• 35:07
  And I started it with the biggest.
• 35:08
  All right.
• 35:09
  So let's do some like side bar stuff
• 35:11
  first.
• 35:13
  Most dominating performance.
• 35:15
  One I didn't come up with.
• 35:18
  I'm still thinking.
• 35:19
  I'll start on this one.
• 35:20
  My answer was anything that Colton
• 35:24
  participated in with burpees and squats.
• 35:28
  And I commented like his back squat at
• 35:30
  the games or the road event with the
• 35:34
  squat, the open scores that he had to.
• 35:36
  Yeah.
• 35:37
  Right.
• 35:38
  When it's in his wheelhouse,
• 35:41
  he is so far in front of everybody
• 35:43
  else.
• 35:44
  It is like Tia overall in the women's
• 35:47
  division.
• 35:48
  Colton is that on those movements in the
• 35:52
  sport.
• 35:54
  Yeah.
• 35:55
  Yeah, I wrote Colton as well there.
• 35:59
  Laura's pegboard was way ahead of everyone
• 36:01
  as well.
• 36:01
  Yeah, that's a good one.
• 36:04
  Like three minutes or something about like
• 36:05
  no one that was even close to her
• 36:07
  on the female.
• 36:12
  Yeah.
• 36:16
  All right.
• 36:16
  That one we all agree on pretty much
• 36:18
  except for Laura.
• 36:20
  Is that's a good one, though.
• 36:21
  That is a good one.
• 36:22
  Yeah.
• 36:24
  I mean, it used to be like,
• 36:25
  like DB doesn't even do that on
• 36:27
  handstands.
• 36:28
  What those two did this year.
• 36:31
  Well,
• 36:31
  they haven't programmed like a handstand
• 36:33
  that, that Danielle could really like,
• 36:35
  it's,
• 36:35
  it's been mixed with different things
• 36:37
  versus they've like,
• 36:38
  they went out the games a few years
• 36:39
  of just doing a,
• 36:41
  just a full on handstand obstacle,
• 36:42
  of course,
• 36:43
  which I don't think anyone's beating
• 36:45
  Danielle on that.
• 36:47
  But yeah,
• 36:48
  there hasn't been like super or a lot
• 36:51
  of super dominant performances where no
• 36:53
  one's even close.
• 36:54
  Because even Tia,
• 36:56
  like Kringle was close to her on the
• 36:58
  run, right?
• 36:59
  Like Jeff and Roman or was it Roman
• 37:05
  or Ricky?
• 37:09
  And honestly,
• 37:10
  I don't think Tia blew anyone out of
• 37:12
  the water either.
• 37:14
  the games on like a specific event but
• 37:16
  she's like multiple minutes ahead of
• 37:18
  someone right the ones that come to mind
• 37:20
  are like colton's just dominant
• 37:22
  performances and laura's payboard all
• 37:26
  right let's go to the next one uh
• 37:28
  surprise of the year you want mine yep
• 37:33
  tia at wadapalooza tia at wadapalooza
• 37:40
  socal yes
• 37:43
  She was human.
• 37:44
  Yes.
• 37:45
  Especially that final event.
• 37:47
  I mean, the first one,
• 37:48
  when you kind of were like,
• 37:49
  what the heck's going on?
• 37:49
  I thought maybe she was just taking it
• 37:51
  easy.
• 37:52
  But that last event, yeah.
• 37:55
  That was insane.
• 37:57
  It's like in Rocky IV when the Russian
• 38:00
  gets cut and you're like...
• 38:02
  He's not a machine.
• 38:02
  He's a man.
• 38:03
  Yeah.
• 38:08
  Um, yeah.
• 38:08
  Is Ivan Drago.
• 38:10
  You just can't be like,
• 38:12
  it's just so good.
• 38:14
  She's so dominant.
• 38:15
  Yes.
• 38:15
  It just like,
• 38:16
  she was humanized for that weekend.
• 38:19
  You're like, wow,
• 38:19
  she does have like days where she's not
• 38:23
  as dominant and that's okay.
• 38:24
  Um,
• 38:26
  Cross fat says Lucy Campbell,
• 38:28
  Kenneth to lap any comp with Lucy
• 38:29
  Campbell.
• 38:30
  He meant my, see,
• 38:34
  I didn't put Lucy Campbell because we're
• 38:37
  going to see her in other awards.
• 38:39
  And I just didn't want her to run
• 38:41
  away with everything.
• 38:43
  And so my surprise of the year was
• 38:45
  Reese little wood coming out of nowhere to
• 38:47
  finish third at syndicate and almost get a
• 38:50
  spot to the games out of nowhere.
• 38:53
  I like that one.
• 38:55
  I have Annika.
• 38:59
  I thought she had a really,
• 39:01
  really good year.
• 39:03
  A lot of people count her out because
• 39:05
  of her running long distance.
• 39:10
  But I was impressed with her.
• 39:12
  She held it together all year and did
• 39:15
  amazing at the games as well.
• 39:16
  So it was a good surprise of the
• 39:19
  year.
• 39:20
  Although I wasn't surprised because I know
• 39:21
  how good she is at CrossFit.
• 39:23
  But happy to see her get some success.
• 39:27
  Yeah,
• 39:27
  I knew if she could get to the
• 39:29
  games,
• 39:29
  she would show out when she got there.
• 39:32
  It's just that getting over that hurdle.
• 39:35
  Yep.
• 39:40
  Cross fat,
• 39:41
  no submission error or any epic failures
• 39:43
  at the end of an event was great
• 39:44
  for Greer.
• 39:45
  Yes.
• 39:48
  My surprise,
• 39:49
  Carolyn Prevo within weeks competing in
• 39:51
  Masters and Indy finals.
• 39:52
  That's a great one.
• 39:54
  Ken Walters.
• 39:57
  Carolyn doing both masters and individual
• 39:59
  games in the same year.
• 40:02
  Probably won't happen many times in
• 40:05
  people's careers.
• 40:06
  So pretty cool.
• 40:10
  All right.
• 40:11
  So next one is biggest disappointment.
• 40:20
  Mine is lack of open participation.
• 40:23
  I like that one.
• 40:25
  I knew it was going to happen,
• 40:28
  but I didn't think it was going to
• 40:29
  be as bad as it actually was.
• 40:33
  Mine is the decision to leave Kel Lehman's
• 40:36
  scores up and keep him in the top
• 40:38
  five of the Open.
• 40:42
  I just wrote the amount of dropouts at
• 40:43
  comps.
• 40:45
  It's just like disappointing to see for
• 40:47
  the organizers just like as like also just
• 40:51
  sucks to see a lot of dropouts at
• 40:54
  comps.
• 40:57
  Yeah.
• 40:57
  Wayne Short says Haley Adams.
• 41:01
  I thought of that.
• 41:02
  I just didn't want it to be recency
• 41:03
  bias because the whole season.
• 41:07
  And then Kenneth Lapp says the sale.
• 41:10
  The sale that never happened.
• 41:11
  Yeah.
• 41:17
  Uh, Teresa wrote rush forward.
• 41:19
  I love how you analyze Tia.
• 41:21
  She's been at it for a long time,
• 41:22
  had a baby and could still beat everyone.
• 41:28
  We were surprised of her performance at
• 41:30
  SoCal because it was not what we expected.
• 41:32
  Correct.
• 41:32
  Just dominates all the time.
• 41:34
  Correct.
• 41:37
  Uh, CrossFit said,
• 41:38
  could have said the open across the board.
• 41:39
  Yeah.
• 41:43
  You two won the open.
• 41:44
  So I don't think you were that
• 41:45
  disappointed in the open.
• 41:47
  I always liked the open.
• 41:49
  I, I think the open's great.
• 41:51
  Like, I think it does its job.
• 41:55
  Unless they have a lift.
• 41:56
  I think that's silly in a mass leaderboard
• 41:57
  like that, but still.
• 42:00
  In a three week, not a one rep,
• 42:01
  but they could do a ladder of kind
• 42:03
  of like a sixteen point two or nineteen
• 42:05
  point two.
• 42:06
  I like those workouts.
• 42:07
  I think those are totally appropriate for
• 42:09
  the open.
• 42:10
  Yep.
• 42:12
  Uh, WRM, nineteen,
• 42:12
  twenty-two Alexis Raptus.
• 42:15
  Don't get me wrong.
• 42:15
  I'm a huge fan of hers,
• 42:17
  but this year.
• 42:21
  Yeah.
• 42:22
  I think the back injury just really took
• 42:25
  its toll.
• 42:25
  It's it sucks.
• 42:28
  She switched coaches too.
• 42:29
  I think she went to Kyle Ruth.
• 42:31
  I very curious on the reasoning behind
• 42:35
  that.
• 42:35
  She was always with, um, Adam,
• 42:38
  was that his name?
• 42:38
  Yeah.
• 42:39
  Adam Rogers.
• 42:40
  I,
• 42:42
  And it's not like Adam isn't coaching.
• 42:45
  Yeah.
• 42:46
  I thought they had a good thing going.
• 42:49
  I'm very curious what happened there.
• 42:54
  No one knows.
• 42:58
  Lupe,
• 42:58
  which happened shortly after the games.
• 43:00
  It actually happened before Kyle was
• 43:02
  coaching her at the games.
• 43:04
  Correct.
• 43:09
  um clock i'm voting for the open low
• 43:11
  participation three events poor
• 43:12
  announcements i didn't i'm not poor the
• 43:16
  three were awesome yeah yeah i thought the
• 43:21
  mayhem one was fantastic excellent and the
• 43:24
  boys the boys was very memorable and tyson
• 43:27
  beijing why am i blanking on number two
• 43:32
  because it was the two it was the
• 43:34
  girls it was
• 43:36
  It was Emily Rolfe and in Sydney, Sydney.
• 43:40
  It was in Arizona.
• 43:42
  Yeah.
• 43:42
  That one was okay.
• 43:46
  Yeah.
• 43:46
  It just didn't have the pop.
• 43:47
  The other two did.
• 43:48
  Yeah.
• 43:48
  I think the one workout one and three
• 43:50
  were, were great and really well done.
• 43:54
  And I,
• 43:54
  and I don't know that it was supposed
• 43:55
  to be Sydney.
• 43:57
  Like, was it supposed to be Brooke?
• 43:58
  And then I'll possibly CrossFit says
• 44:02
  middle one was the wrong Wells.
• 44:05
  And then back on a Raptus, anyone,
• 44:09
  and no one knows why she switched.
• 44:12
  Same brand too.
• 44:14
  Yeah.
• 44:14
  So, yeah.
• 44:18
  But I think the biggest factors are
• 44:20
  health.
• 44:21
  Yeah.
• 44:22
  That's not, yeah.
• 44:24
  If you have ever sustained a back injury,
• 44:27
  it is so debilitating.
• 44:30
  And confidence is such a big thing that
• 44:33
  hopefully it's just a minor setback and
• 44:35
  she can get some time off and get
• 44:40
  back at it.
• 44:44
  A clock.
• 44:44
  Y'all were too enamored with the mayhem
• 44:47
  announcement.
• 44:48
  loved it i love the cheesy did you
• 44:50
  not hear carolyn talking about rocky four
• 44:52
  and see how excited we got when rich
• 44:54
  was my favorite movie of all time rich
• 44:57
  wore the red white and blue shorts it's
• 44:59
  rocky four it's the whole cheese ball give
• 45:04
  me a good cheese ball set up and
• 45:05
  i'm i'm there yeah um so okay
• 45:15
  Next one is camp of the year.
• 45:20
  Is there no,
• 45:22
  you already have the one I think we
• 45:24
  would all agree on.
• 45:25
  I said proven.
• 45:26
  So that's what I wrote.
• 45:27
  I would say proven would be my other
• 45:29
  contender.
• 45:30
  I mean, you, you get,
• 45:31
  you got tea out of there.
• 45:32
  I think they did excellent helping build
• 45:35
  up Olivia.
• 45:35
  I mean, to me,
• 45:37
  Jacob Hefner is Olivia's coach, but I,
• 45:40
  even he says like he couldn't, you know,
• 45:43
  continue to help her grow and wanted her
• 45:45
  to get,
• 45:46
  think that i think they're doing a great
• 45:47
  job with with maddie stirrer and jay and
• 45:51
  ricky getting second i will say this in
• 45:54
  the back because i had the glittery band
• 45:57
  this year tim paulson was very active with
• 45:59
  olivia as a coach it it jacob was
• 46:03
  not in the back this year so i
• 46:06
  think there has been a switch to the
• 46:08
  proven team being her full-time coach
• 46:12
  Um, and so, yeah, they should give.
• 46:15
  And in my mind,
• 46:16
  I just thought proven is the quantity
• 46:20
  where brute had the quality.
• 46:22
  And I, and if you,
• 46:24
  if you think about it in a way
• 46:26
  like fee had an incredible season.
• 46:29
  Yeah.
• 46:29
  The games weren't where she was supposed
• 46:31
  to be,
• 46:32
  but she was blowing us all away leading
• 46:35
  up to the games.
• 46:37
  And, and I,
• 46:39
  I didn't want to discredit that at all
• 46:40
  either.
• 46:42
  Cause it's the whole season, right?
• 46:44
  Not, not just the one thing.
• 46:46
  And that's what I was trying to do.
• 46:47
  So that's why I went brute one.
• 46:49
  I think Dallin and James are freaking on
• 46:52
  fire.
• 46:53
  And then you have fee and Emma Lawson
• 46:56
  is starting to creep up there too.
• 46:59
  Um, so yeah,
• 47:04
  it was the jazzy band cross fat.
• 47:07
  It is interesting that mayhem doesn't even
• 47:10
  get mentioned.
• 47:13
  I think they had a bad year.
• 47:14
  I do too.
• 47:15
  It's until Roman came on at the games
• 47:19
  and Roman,
• 47:20
  it was their star of the year.
• 47:22
  Yep.
• 47:23
  Yeah.
• 47:23
  He's, he's turned it around.
• 47:28
  So we'll see.
• 47:34
  Yeah.
• 47:34
  Some of these other ones are grid
• 47:35
  mentions.
• 47:36
  They're just not a camp.
• 47:37
  It's two or three people and it's just
• 47:39
  not quite the same.
• 47:41
  Uh, Teresa Rutherford, uh, and Matt's a,
• 47:45
  that's not what I wanted to read on
• 47:47
  George.
• 47:48
  You have to give Coachelle credit for DB
• 47:50
  as well.
• 47:50
  They, they got her there.
• 47:54
  I love Coachelle.
• 47:55
  He's one of my favorite people to talk
• 47:56
  to.
• 47:57
  Um, yeah, he, he deserves credit.
• 48:02
  DB was great at the games.
• 48:05
  The two weeks with Adam Neifert probably
• 48:06
  didn't change much.
• 48:10
  Yeah.
• 48:10
  Yeah.
• 48:17
  I'm shocked Roman hasn't left.
• 48:19
  I think he's happy and cookful.
• 48:23
  I mean, the facility has everything.
• 48:25
  He's got access to anything he wants.
• 48:29
  I think Mayhem is a great place for
• 48:32
  him.
• 48:34
  CrossFit,
• 48:34
  has anyone gotten better at Mayhem?
• 48:36
  Roman just returned to where he was before
• 48:37
  he was injured.
• 48:39
  Haley got better before her time off.
• 48:43
  Maybe that wasn't the right way to go
• 48:45
  about it.
• 48:46
  And I think a lot of people had
• 48:47
  gotten better there for years.
• 48:49
  Yeah.
• 48:50
  I think Luke got better there.
• 48:53
  A hundred percent.
• 48:55
  I argue Angelo.
• 48:57
  I mean,
• 48:57
  Angelo has been great for a long,
• 48:59
  but like maybe a lot of their team
• 49:02
  athletes,
• 49:02
  a lot of their team athletes continued us
• 49:04
  to get better and better.
• 49:07
  Paige.
• 49:08
  My, Miley, Wade, Nina, Paige,
• 49:12
  Paige for sure.
• 49:14
  Um, the young, Oh my gosh.
• 49:19
  I am.
• 49:21
  No, I'm talking about male Nate.
• 49:23
  Yeah, but he's with the same coach.
• 49:27
  He had a brute.
• 49:28
  So that's, it's a little hard to, um,
• 49:35
  Jorge made the games.
• 49:36
  That's, that's a good point.
• 49:37
  Yeah.
• 49:37
  Yeah.
• 49:43
  It was going to be one of them,
• 49:45
  Jorge or Nate.
• 49:49
  So.
• 49:49
  So we'll see.
• 49:51
  All right.
• 49:52
  So most exciting moment of the year.
• 49:57
  I don't think I wrote anything for that.
• 49:59
  I was struggling for this one.
• 50:00
  I, you know, cause recent I'd have,
• 50:03
  I like,
• 50:03
  I have to go back and like really
• 50:05
  think about things.
• 50:07
  it was exciting for me the hopper failing
• 50:10
  that snatch like that race at the games
• 50:12
  was exciting that one just sticks out in
• 50:14
  my mind i'm trying to think if anything
• 50:16
  else was just like oh that lucy hands
• 50:22
  lucy hansen walk against yeah on that one
• 50:25
  event was excellent excellent yeah
• 50:30
  Jason winning, Olivia making the put.
• 50:32
  So just so you guys know,
• 50:34
  my mindset was not about the result.
• 50:38
  It was about watching something and it
• 50:40
  being exciting.
• 50:41
  Mine was the final event at Tour Stop
• 50:44
  One at WOFP when everybody took the risk
• 50:48
  to do the overhead lunge and everybody was
• 50:51
  failing.
• 50:52
  Yeah, Jeff, Laura.
• 50:53
  It was mass chaos at the end of
• 50:56
  that event.
• 50:58
  That was really, really exciting.
• 51:01
  in that moment,
• 51:02
  just because of it's like the,
• 51:04
  the year before at semifinals,
• 51:06
  when everybody was failing that final
• 51:09
  lunge down and like, uh,
• 51:13
  follow went from a place at the games
• 51:15
  to like all the way.
• 51:17
  Eighteenth place or something.
• 51:19
  Yeah.
• 51:19
  Um,
• 51:22
  It was just programmed right for that
• 51:24
  event that you had to calculate,
• 51:28
  do I have enough to get to the
• 51:29
  end or not?
• 51:30
  And so many people miscalculated that.
• 51:34
  Yeah, that was a shocking event.
• 51:36
  Yeah, I like that one as a pick.
• 51:40
  And it wasn't just one person.
• 51:41
  It was several people who misjudged that.
• 51:44
  And people that are normally not making
• 51:48
  mistakes, like an execution,
• 51:50
  like it was out of character type of
• 51:51
  misses.
• 51:52
  So that made it even more.
• 51:54
  Yeah.
• 51:55
  Yeah.
• 51:55
  It was crazy.
• 51:59
  That's why I like those workouts that are
• 52:00
  programmed so well that it takes them to
• 52:04
  the cusp and, like,
• 52:05
  you see those failures.
• 52:07
  Like, those are just good.
• 52:09
  I mean, even Justin, I think,
• 52:10
  if I remember,
• 52:11
  missed the overhead walking lunge.
• 52:13
  He tried to go unbroken and miss.
• 52:15
  And it's like you never see Justin miss
• 52:18
  as well with anything that's overhead
• 52:20
  lunging.
• 52:20
  Yeah, it was –
• 52:24
  it's stuck in my head as like the
• 52:26
  most exciting thing I saw this year.
• 52:28
  And it's been there.
• 52:29
  And I'm glad I,
• 52:31
  as much as people think that I run
• 52:33
  a smear campaign against the WFP,
• 52:36
  like that was the most exciting thing of
• 52:38
  the year for me.
• 52:39
  I like it.
• 52:45
  Good pick.
• 52:45
  John George.
• 52:46
  I think that one got Colton and Taylor
• 52:47
  as well.
• 52:49
  Honestly, I really liked the dual as well.
• 52:51
  I'm going to throw the dual.
• 52:52
  Yeah, that was good.
• 52:55
  It was exciting races.
• 52:57
  I think they were more exciting before the
• 52:59
  finals.
• 52:59
  I wish I would have been close in
• 53:01
  the finals of that to really make it
• 53:04
  sing.
• 53:05
  But everything up to that point was I
• 53:08
  was captivated on the duel.
• 53:14
  I hate saying that because then it gives
• 53:15
  credence to Jamie's we don't need the
• 53:17
  final two,
• 53:18
  but I think we do need the final
• 53:20
  two.
• 53:24
  Yeah.
• 53:24
  Everything bagel, extra smear.
• 53:25
  There we go.
• 53:30
  Um, Larry young,
• 53:33
  his wife has started mayhem earlier.
• 53:36
  He said that it's, that it's, uh,
• 53:38
  I think she's doing the masters and is
• 53:39
  loving it.
• 53:41
  And, um,
• 53:43
  and he's saying now it's better ton of
• 53:46
  new coaches.
• 53:50
  So, all right.
• 53:50
  So now we get into like the serious
• 53:53
  awards and we start with comeback athlete
• 53:56
  of the year, both male and female.
• 53:58
  Who did you have?
• 54:04
  On the men's side, I had Justin Medeiros.
• 54:07
  I think he's back to form.
• 54:10
  I think he's consistent again.
• 54:11
  And I think that that is huge and
• 54:14
  comeback athlete.
• 54:16
  for the females is obvious.
• 54:18
  I think it's Lucy Campbell.
• 54:20
  What she overcame is ridiculous.
• 54:23
  And where she's at is ridiculous.
• 54:25
  Yeah.
• 54:25
  I have Lucy for the females.
• 54:28
  And then I wrote, um,
• 54:30
  tutor for the males and Colton.
• 54:33
  I like colon, um,
• 54:35
  Cause Colton hasn't traditionally done,
• 54:37
  um, as well at the games.
• 54:39
  Like he's been in the thirtieths around
• 54:42
  there.
• 54:42
  Even last year, I don't think made it.
• 54:44
  Right.
• 54:45
  And then I think his best finish was
• 54:48
  around maybe twentieth or nineteenth or
• 54:50
  something like that.
• 54:50
  And then he was just outside the top
• 54:52
  ten this time and has been really,
• 54:55
  really good this year.
• 54:56
  And I think well-respected within the
• 54:59
  men's field that's already very deep and
• 55:01
  stacked.
• 55:01
  Um,
• 55:03
  To me, that's comeback athlete.
• 55:05
  Like he's just in the mix now.
• 55:07
  So Teresa has two and I agree with
• 55:09
  one as a possibility.
• 55:11
  One, it was DBE.
• 55:12
  And I think that is a choice that
• 55:14
  makes sense.
• 55:14
  She did have a great year.
• 55:17
  And then she says, James,
• 55:19
  I think it's hard to come back from
• 55:21
  being the games champion.
• 55:22
  Correct.
• 55:23
  I was trying to,
• 55:25
  I was trying to pick someone who like,
• 55:27
  like Colton,
• 55:27
  like who didn't make it and came back
• 55:29
  and made a bunch of big joint.
• 55:30
  I would even argue maybe even like Hopper.
• 55:34
  like when i mean like the biggest comeback
• 55:38
  right like just came and took it all
• 55:42
  but uh crossfit says what about jason he
• 55:44
  was coordinated early and then this then
• 55:47
  was kind of a joke right but he
• 55:48
  was it's been an incremental climb and i
• 55:51
  think his from last year to this year
• 55:53
  isn't massive um
• 55:58
  Wayne short says Alex and that's just
• 56:03
  recency bias.
• 56:04
  Yeah.
• 56:06
  She's had a great season,
• 56:07
  even though she had this hiccup in the
• 56:09
  middle.
• 56:09
  Right.
• 56:11
  Um, but okay.
• 56:13
  Um, Kenneth lab hopper,
• 56:14
  Scott wrote him off at the start of
• 56:16
  the year.
• 56:16
  No, I'm just,
• 56:17
  I was tired of picking him and losing.
• 56:19
  Exactly.
• 56:20
  I was done with him.
• 56:21
  Right.
• 56:22
  And he came out and he showed out.
• 56:23
  Like,
• 56:24
  I feel like that's the ultimate comeback.
• 56:30
  At AI, we love you.
• 56:32
  Thank you.
• 56:39
  Yes, that was my quote, Kenneth.
• 56:40
  I will never pick Hopper again.
• 56:43
  And Larry Young with the super sticker.
• 56:45
  Nice.
• 56:45
  Thank you.
• 56:51
  To be fair,
• 56:52
  an NFL player got comeback player because
• 56:54
  he sort of died then came back the
• 56:55
  next year.
• 56:57
  That is true.
• 56:59
  That is true.
• 57:02
  But I think they had to find a
• 57:03
  way to honor that person.
• 57:06
  And he did die on the field and
• 57:07
  he did come back and play the next
• 57:09
  year.
• 57:09
  So that's a true comeback.
• 57:12
  That's Lazarus.
• 57:13
  So there we go.
• 57:17
  All right.
• 57:18
  Next is rookie rookie of the year.
• 57:22
  So I put Anika here.
• 57:25
  Yeah, I'm mad.
• 57:26
  I didn't put Anika here.
• 57:26
  You're welcome.
• 57:30
  So you had Anika as Rookie of the
• 57:32
  Year female.
• 57:34
  Yeah.
• 57:35
  I had Miriam Von Roe.
• 57:36
  Miriam did well in the open,
• 57:39
  backed it up,
• 57:40
  and really backed it up at the games.
• 57:42
  I mean,
• 57:42
  I think similar type athlete in terms of
• 57:45
  her strengths with Anika,
• 57:47
  which is why I think they were really
• 57:48
  close on the leaderboard.
• 57:49
  Both are amazing squatters,
• 57:51
  amazing at CrossFit,
• 57:53
  but Miriam being the better runner for
• 57:55
  like a distance event there.
• 57:58
  But I think both of them have wheelhouse
• 57:59
  stuff.
• 58:01
  I think are very similar athletes for the
• 58:06
  most part.
• 58:06
  W.R.M.
• 58:06
  nineteen twenty two.
• 58:07
  Lucy McGonigal.
• 58:10
  I don't think she had the performance at
• 58:11
  the games that the others had.
• 58:12
  Right.
• 58:14
  And none of them like went to Rogue
• 58:16
  or.
• 58:17
  I think Annika has had a better WFP
• 58:20
  season.
• 58:22
  Than them.
• 58:23
  And that's why I probably should have
• 58:24
  picked her over Miriam.
• 58:27
  Just looking at the whole.
• 58:28
  Yeah.
• 58:32
  There are a ton of good ones,
• 58:34
  but I think Annika's performance at the
• 58:37
  games.
• 58:38
  Again,
• 58:39
  Lydia Fish was awesome and the story was
• 58:41
  awesome,
• 58:42
  but I don't think she's put together a
• 58:43
  season like Annika has at this point.
• 58:47
  My male is, I think,
• 58:48
  kind of obvious as Ty.
• 58:50
  Yeah.
• 58:53
  I mean, I don't even know.
• 58:56
  Harry would be my other...
• 58:59
  was this his first year did he second
• 59:01
  first year okay yeah so and i picked
• 59:04
  him for a different one so yeah rookie
• 59:08
  john yeah i didn't think so that's why
• 59:10
  i didn't put him there put him next
• 59:11
  one the find the year uh it's twenty
• 59:17
  twenty five kenneth you can find it on
• 59:20
  any calendar um
• 59:30
  Who was the foreign guy that shocked
• 59:33
  everyone, not Sousa?
• 59:37
  I did think Sousa had a good game,
• 59:39
  though.
• 59:40
  Yeah.
• 59:43
  Yeah, he did have a good game.
• 59:45
  I don't know.
• 59:45
  Kalem Clements?
• 59:46
  I don't know who else would be...
• 59:52
  Kalem Bouchard?
• 59:54
  Bouchard?
• 59:54
  Whatever, however you say his name.
• 59:55
  I actually had the game's...
• 59:59
  No, I think Sousa smashed it.
• 1:00:01
  He did.
• 1:00:02
  Killian was the best out of it.
• 1:00:06
  It'd be Callum Bossard or Caleb Clements.
• 1:00:09
  Those were the other top twenty.
• 1:00:11
  So that's who they were referring to.
• 1:00:12
  Caleb Clements.
• 1:00:14
  The rope guy surprises that Herman.
• 1:00:16
  Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Yeah.
• 1:00:18
  Yeah.
• 1:00:19
  But I don't think it was that.
• 1:00:23
  Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  Callum Clements was one spot behind Ty.
• 1:00:27
  Right.
• 1:00:29
  Sousa was not a rookie.
• 1:00:31
  Correct.
• 1:00:33
  Yeah,
• 1:00:33
  and then the rest are all long timers.
• 1:00:40
  Yeah.
• 1:00:41
  There weren't a lot of rookies on the
• 1:00:45
  men's side.
• 1:00:45
  Nope.
• 1:00:47
  So there we go.
• 1:00:50
  All right.
• 1:00:51
  Then we move on to most improved.
• 1:00:55
  I put Harry Lightfoot and Olivia
• 1:00:58
  Kerstetter.
• 1:00:58
  Those are my two that I have.
• 1:01:02
  I had Amy Kringle and Tudor Magda.
• 1:01:05
  Love them both.
• 1:01:06
  Great picks.
• 1:01:07
  Yep.
• 1:01:08
  I think if you told people that Tudor
• 1:01:10
  would finish top ten at the games,
• 1:01:13
  they would have called you a liar at
• 1:01:14
  the beginning of the year.
• 1:01:15
  Yep.
• 1:01:15
  Except for you and me.
• 1:01:18
  True.
• 1:01:19
  We've been longtime Tudor fans.
• 1:01:22
  And then, but he deserves, like,
• 1:01:24
  most improved for sure.
• 1:01:27
  Wasn't even at the games for the last
• 1:01:28
  two years.
• 1:01:29
  Right.
• 1:01:30
  And then to come all the way back.
• 1:01:33
  Grant, Ty wasn't there the year before.
• 1:01:35
  He can't be most improved.
• 1:01:37
  He just got Rookie of the Year, Grant.
• 1:01:40
  Let it be.
• 1:01:42
  Exactly.
• 1:01:42
  He already got something.
• 1:01:46
  So.
• 1:01:48
  So you guys had Lightfoot.
• 1:01:51
  And Olivia.
• 1:01:53
  And Olivia.
• 1:01:55
  Olivia didn't make the games last year.
• 1:01:56
  She's made a massive improvement.
• 1:01:58
  Okay, I can see that.
• 1:02:00
  Capodium.
• 1:02:05
  It's hard because I think it was expected.
• 1:02:07
  Even though it was massive,
• 1:02:09
  I think people expected it.
• 1:02:11
  No, no, I don't think people did.
• 1:02:13
  I think,
• 1:02:14
  I think that that actually got a lot
• 1:02:15
  of tears out of people when,
• 1:02:16
  when she clinched that podium spot,
• 1:02:19
  that was huge.
• 1:02:22
  Okay.
• 1:02:23
  I wouldn't say that was expected,
• 1:02:25
  not a podium cracking the top.
• 1:02:28
  Also would have been like, oh, okay.
• 1:02:30
  Wow.
• 1:02:30
  Good improvement.
• 1:02:33
  Like she has it and then getting the
• 1:02:35
  podium.
• 1:02:36
  That's that's huge.
• 1:02:40
  Um, CrossFit,
• 1:02:42
  Danielle is kind of impressive there too,
• 1:02:44
  but is she better?
• 1:02:46
  I think she is better,
• 1:02:48
  but I think that it's like we say
• 1:02:50
  with anybody,
• 1:02:51
  I think her strength has gotten better,
• 1:02:52
  but everybody in the field strength has
• 1:02:54
  gotten better.
• 1:02:55
  But then you also have to think about,
• 1:02:56
  there's a lot of very good female athletes
• 1:02:58
  that were not at the games this year
• 1:03:00
  too.
• 1:03:00
  Right.
• 1:03:01
  Um, but Danielle's had a very, very good,
• 1:03:04
  uh, good year.
• 1:03:04
  She's looking awesome.
• 1:03:06
  I have her somewhere else.
• 1:03:07
  So she'll get, she'll get an award.
• 1:03:11
  All right.
• 1:03:12
  Well, we only have one reward left.
• 1:03:16
  There you go.
• 1:03:17
  So the final award of the night is
• 1:03:20
  MVP.
• 1:03:23
  And that is male and female.
• 1:03:24
  Who you got?
• 1:03:27
  I have Danielle.
• 1:03:28
  Basically kind of going off like your
• 1:03:31
  Rogue rankings.
• 1:03:32
  I mean, she dethroned Tia.
• 1:03:35
  Now,
• 1:03:35
  is it because Tia isn't at everything?
• 1:03:36
  Yeah,
• 1:03:37
  but I think she's put together an amazing
• 1:03:39
  year.
• 1:03:39
  I think she's better at Rogue than...
• 1:03:41
  people would have expected for a rogue
• 1:03:43
  performance from Danielle.
• 1:03:44
  I think she was top notch at tier.
• 1:03:47
  A lot of it was a SoCal.
• 1:03:49
  She did a great job as a captain.
• 1:03:51
  Um,
• 1:03:52
  and she had a good performance at the
• 1:03:53
  games.
• 1:03:53
  I think she's put together a great year.
• 1:03:56
  She deserves to be up there in the
• 1:03:57
  captain at SoCal.
• 1:03:58
  Maybe her most impressive was kept her
• 1:04:02
  cool.
• 1:04:03
  She looked like, I, I, I liked,
• 1:04:05
  I liked seeing her like that.
• 1:04:08
  I don't know.
• 1:04:09
  I can't pick anyone else other than Tia
• 1:04:11
  for MVP.
• 1:04:13
  I have to pick someone else.
• 1:04:14
  I know, I know, but like... Yes.
• 1:04:18
  It's Tia.
• 1:04:19
  It's Tia.
• 1:04:20
  And I think we're... I mean,
• 1:04:24
  I'm with you, Scott, on boys, so... Oh,
• 1:04:30
  he's leaving us.
• 1:04:32
  The suspense for the male...
• 1:04:36
  Well,
• 1:04:36
  the chat kind of already has thrown it
• 1:04:39
  out there.
• 1:04:40
  We got a ton of them.
• 1:04:42
  And someone agrees with you,
• 1:04:43
  Sprague and Tia.
• 1:04:45
  So there you go, Carolyn.
• 1:04:48
  Yeah,
• 1:04:48
  I think James has been the most consistent
• 1:04:51
  of the male athletes at any type of
• 1:04:54
  event that he's participated in.
• 1:04:56
  He was podium or right outside at Rogue
• 1:04:59
  in fourth.
• 1:05:01
  So consistency across any programing.
• 1:05:06
  silenced some of the haters i think i
• 1:05:09
  think he's really made his mark we didn't
• 1:05:13
  forget scott's gonna say his picks okay
• 1:05:15
  yeah man i can't believe it okay my
• 1:05:21
  mvp is a female lucy uh campbell
• 1:05:26
  I think winning water Palooza two at the
• 1:05:29
  game.
• 1:05:29
  I didn't hear what you guys said or
• 1:05:31
  who you picked.
• 1:05:32
  Um, and then, uh, male James break.
• 1:05:35
  I think he had the most consistent season
• 1:05:37
  from beginning to end, um,
• 1:05:39
  winning water Palooza third at the games
• 1:05:42
  and, um,
• 1:05:44
  doing with leading WFP going into the
• 1:05:46
  final event and rogue,
• 1:05:48
  which nobody expects him to do well at
• 1:05:50
  took forth.
• 1:05:50
  Exactly.
• 1:05:55
  Yeah.
• 1:05:55
  No, we agreed with you.
• 1:05:57
  We don't think there's really any other
• 1:05:58
  option other than James for men.
• 1:06:01
  I mean, there probably are, but I think,
• 1:06:03
  I think James and Lucy have had a
• 1:06:05
  very similar type of year.
• 1:06:07
  Like they're just always at the podium no
• 1:06:09
  matter what.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah.
• 1:06:11
  And they're very similar athletes in terms
• 1:06:13
  of they're not known to be,
• 1:06:15
  strength athletes but no no matter what if
• 1:06:19
  even if there's a strength event they're
• 1:06:21
  still somewhat at the top of the podium
• 1:06:23
  towards the like a podium place um because
• 1:06:26
  they have other great um wheelhouse stuff
• 1:06:30
  that they can do very well with endurance
• 1:06:33
  and they're just well-rounded overall like
• 1:06:36
  they're very similar i think the closest
• 1:06:39
  to james is ricky
• 1:06:43
  second at the games um he's done well
• 1:06:47
  at wfp um wataplooza socal i think he
• 1:06:52
  held that team together when tia was not
• 1:06:56
  doing well um so what did he get
• 1:07:01
  at rogue this weekend or last weekend two
• 1:07:03
  weeks that was he what was he ahead
• 1:07:07
  of hopper
• 1:07:13
  For some reason, who took second?
• 1:07:14
  I thought it was him.
• 1:07:19
  It was.
• 1:07:21
  It was.
• 1:07:22
  So yeah, that's good.
• 1:07:23
  I mean... No.
• 1:07:27
  Second was... Justin.
• 1:07:31
  Justin took second.
• 1:07:33
  James took... And Roman got third.
• 1:07:36
  I'm just trying to see where...
• 1:07:39
  And then James fourth.
• 1:07:41
  yeah dylan can't catch a break so yeah
• 1:07:45
  i think ricky was seventh yeah right
• 1:07:48
  behind hopper so then i'd argue hopper
• 1:07:51
  over ricky yeah because he beat games and
• 1:07:58
  considering that where james placed in
• 1:08:00
  every event this year with that many
• 1:08:03
  contenders that's pretty impressive who
• 1:08:08
  did you guys have for female
• 1:08:11
  i had danielle i have tia she only
• 1:08:15
  did one event mike drop the only one
• 1:08:26
  that also did high rocks like the whole
• 1:08:28
  year yeah cross fat must not be paying
• 1:08:31
  attention i picked justin as my comeback
• 1:08:33
  player athlete of the year you did so
• 1:08:40
  okay
• 1:08:41
  Well, that is our season ending awards.
• 1:08:43
  We'll maybe revisit it after Copenhagen,
• 1:08:46
  see if anything changes.
• 1:08:47
  Well, let's play some pen pencil Sharpie.
• 1:08:53
  Although I do want to ask this question
• 1:08:54
  before we get into that with rogues do
• 1:08:57
  standings coming out and Tia not being
• 1:08:59
  number one.
• 1:09:01
  Does that,
• 1:09:01
  is that I watch a show where it's
• 1:09:04
  like,
• 1:09:04
  is it a bad day or a bad
• 1:09:06
  sign?
• 1:09:08
  And
• 1:09:12
  Is it a bad game or a bad
• 1:09:13
  sign?
• 1:09:16
  Does that now mess up their rankings when
• 1:09:19
  the greatest female athlete in the world
• 1:09:22
  is not number one?
• 1:09:23
  Yes.
• 1:09:25
  Or is it just because of the way
• 1:09:26
  she competed?
• 1:09:31
  I think a lot of rankings...
• 1:09:33
  she's not number one because they take
• 1:09:35
  into account how many events people do.
• 1:09:38
  Like,
• 1:09:38
  I think it's the same thing with like
• 1:09:39
  Barkley.
• 1:09:39
  I don't even think Tia's number one in
• 1:09:41
  his necessarily like it rewards people
• 1:09:44
  that are competing all the time.
• 1:09:45
  And then the strength of field.
• 1:09:46
  So if you're just doing the games and
• 1:09:48
  that's it,
• 1:09:48
  and you're not competing at anywhere else,
• 1:09:51
  like it's just the way that the point
• 1:09:54
  systems are getting are rewarding.
• 1:09:57
  I want to speak to this.
• 1:09:58
  Can Carolyn's T Carolyn is Tia's biggest
• 1:10:02
  fan girl literally gets giddy every time
• 1:10:04
  she says her name.
• 1:10:05
  Here's what you don't know.
• 1:10:06
  Here's what you should know about Carolyn.
• 1:10:09
  Carolyn loves greatness.
• 1:10:11
  If you've been listening to this show in
• 1:10:14
  any sport,
• 1:10:15
  when someone displays greatness,
• 1:10:17
  she gets giddy.
• 1:10:20
  And that's what Tia does.
• 1:10:23
  She's good.
• 1:10:24
  Like,
• 1:10:26
  goals yeah all right let's get into pen
• 1:10:33
  pencil pen and sharpie i did not load
• 1:10:35
  them in today so i'm just gonna have
• 1:10:36
  to read them damn it scott you have
• 1:10:42
  one job this is my sinuses you guys
• 1:10:43
  know i've been dealing with these sinuses
• 1:10:45
  and when the temperature drops fifty
• 1:10:46
  degrees in one day all of a sudden
• 1:10:49
  the pressure in my sinuses is so bad
• 1:10:51
  yeah but it affected your fingers to type
• 1:10:54
  them
• 1:10:55
  No,
• 1:10:55
  it affected my eye to look at my
• 1:10:57
  computer.
• 1:11:00
  I don't know how to do anything
• 1:11:01
  technology-wise,
• 1:11:03
  so I shouldn't be chirping right now.
• 1:11:05
  All right, here we go.
• 1:11:07
  Pencil, pen, or Sharpie?
• 1:11:12
  Yes.
• 1:11:13
  Scott uses Sudafed as pre-workout.
• 1:11:16
  Truth.
• 1:11:19
  Pencil, pen, or Sharpie?
• 1:11:21
  CrossFit open sign-ups will increase by
• 1:11:23
  more than twenty percent.
• 1:11:27
  I wish I could say anything about pencil,
• 1:11:29
  but I don't think that's realistic.
• 1:11:32
  Pencil, yeah, that's too much.
• 1:11:36
  I think it's going to increase, but not.
• 1:11:37
  Yeah, that's a big ask, twenty percent.
• 1:11:42
  Well, how many did we have last year?
• 1:11:45
  Just shy of three hundred thousand.
• 1:11:48
  And before that,
• 1:11:49
  we had over four hundred thousand,
• 1:11:51
  like four fifty.
• 1:11:53
  So it decreased by way more than twenty
• 1:11:55
  percent.
• 1:11:56
  should but i mean they did some things
• 1:12:00
  right they've got they've got
• 1:12:01
  announcements out but do i see it getting
• 1:12:05
  like much above three hundred right now i
• 1:12:08
  don't know um we've got a pen uh
• 1:12:14
  paper mate eraser mate pencil pen pencil
• 1:12:22
  um pencil sharpie hey larry look at you
• 1:12:28
  Um,
• 1:12:28
  rounded tip pencil and invisible ink here.
• 1:12:33
  I'm going to go pen and here's why
• 1:12:35
  I'm going to go.
• 1:12:36
  If you watch the podcast with Dawn fall
• 1:12:39
  and Zia with, uh,
• 1:12:42
  James Hobart on Thursday,
• 1:12:45
  Zia saying that there has been an increase
• 1:12:48
  in people walking through her door because
• 1:12:50
  of the new marketing campaign.
• 1:12:53
  She's actually seen a huge growth in,
• 1:12:56
  from that new campaign,
• 1:13:00
  that's what's giving me hope.
• 1:13:02
  Why I can't go Sharpie is because this
• 1:13:05
  looming, is it going to sell or not?
• 1:13:08
  That's the piece I just don't know.
• 1:13:10
  I think they're moving in the right
• 1:13:11
  direction,
• 1:13:12
  but that is all meaningless if there's a
• 1:13:14
  sale to somebody that changes course
• 1:13:17
  immediately.
• 1:13:18
  Agreed.
• 1:13:20
  They need to have a lot of campaigns
• 1:13:23
  going into the new year when people start
• 1:13:25
  coming to the gym.
• 1:13:25
  Like they have to be preparing a bunch
• 1:13:27
  of stuff right now for that December time
• 1:13:31
  slash January.
• 1:13:32
  But like really you need it in December
• 1:13:34
  to push the January and then into the
• 1:13:36
  open.
• 1:13:38
  I agree with this statement.
• 1:13:39
  I think quarterfinals will bring more and
• 1:13:41
  more signups.
• 1:13:42
  I do think that that was a goal
• 1:13:43
  that people got because it is a realistic
• 1:13:46
  goal to walk into a gym and want
• 1:13:47
  to be top twenty five percent.
• 1:13:50
  yeah when they took that away it took
• 1:13:53
  a big incentive away from a lot of
• 1:13:54
  people that's true um if dave would bend
• 1:14:06
  a tad etched in stone it's hard to
• 1:14:08
  get excited for the same dumbbell workouts
• 1:14:10
  a lot will wait and watch
• 1:14:14
  I don't think you're going to learn much
• 1:14:15
  in the first workout.
• 1:14:16
  Even in two thousand twelve,
• 1:14:18
  when I first started doing the open,
• 1:14:20
  the first workout wasn't that complicated.
• 1:14:23
  It shouldn't be because you want everyone
• 1:14:25
  in your gym to be like,
• 1:14:28
  I can do that.
• 1:14:28
  I'll sign up.
• 1:14:29
  OK.
• 1:14:30
  Like you don't want to do a twenty
• 1:14:32
  minute AMRAP for the most part,
• 1:14:33
  like just like a long,
• 1:14:36
  slow because it feel like I don't feel
• 1:14:38
  like doing that.
• 1:14:38
  I'm not signing up like it needs to
• 1:14:41
  be accessible.
• 1:14:41
  Mm hmm.
• 1:14:44
  I hope that's true.
• 1:14:45
  The CrossFit gyms near me are struggling.
• 1:14:48
  Yeah, I could use some science.
• 1:14:50
  If you are an affiliate owner,
• 1:14:52
  you need to watch that podcast.
• 1:14:53
  And the stuff Zia was talking about,
• 1:14:57
  like what's the responsibility of the
• 1:14:59
  affiliate owner and what's the
• 1:15:01
  responsibility of CrossFit and what makes
• 1:15:04
  her successful?
• 1:15:05
  She is opening up her second affiliate
• 1:15:07
  now.
• 1:15:08
  And it was really a great...
• 1:15:14
  And I usually hang out in the sports
• 1:15:16
  side of CrossFit most for this show,
• 1:15:18
  but this really sucked me in on the
• 1:15:20
  affiliate side.
• 1:15:21
  So I will say that I didn't get
• 1:15:25
  a lot from Dawnfall,
• 1:15:27
  but we're going to get into that in
• 1:15:28
  a second.
• 1:15:30
  Forgot I wrote that down.
• 1:15:30
  All right.
• 1:15:34
  Okay, so next one.
• 1:15:37
  This week,
• 1:15:38
  we've been talking on the lunch show,
• 1:15:40
  and I've gotten a lot of comments about
• 1:15:42
  something.
• 1:15:43
  And this is a comment that I've gotten
• 1:15:45
  from listeners,
• 1:15:46
  and I'm going to pose it to you.
• 1:15:48
  Pencil, pen, or Sharpie,
• 1:15:49
  Laura Horvath is afraid to go up against
• 1:15:52
  Tia Claire Toomey.
• 1:15:54
  Pencil.
• 1:15:54
  Pencil for sure.
• 1:15:56
  She wants to.
• 1:15:58
  Pencil.
• 1:15:59
  Yeah.
• 1:16:00
  Laura has said that she wants to be
• 1:16:03
  the best.
• 1:16:03
  If Tia's not there...
• 1:16:06
  I think she even knows it's somewhat of
• 1:16:10
  a hollow win.
• 1:16:11
  There is that question.
• 1:16:14
  She wants to beat Tia.
• 1:16:15
  Yeah.
• 1:16:19
  Yeah,
• 1:16:19
  and we saw it at Rogue Invitational when
• 1:16:21
  she beat her.
• 1:16:22
  Yeah,
• 1:16:24
  like the only time that she's beat her
• 1:16:26
  and how much that meant to her,
• 1:16:29
  like regardless of where Tia was
• 1:16:31
  post-pregnancy, like that was a win.
• 1:16:34
  And, you know,
• 1:16:36
  for all the haters that said anything
• 1:16:38
  against her winning the twenty twenty
• 1:16:39
  three games like.
• 1:16:41
  it just like seems like it was never
• 1:16:43
  enough for,
• 1:16:43
  for Laura because she didn't beat Tia,
• 1:16:45
  but like, she's been hands down,
• 1:16:47
  not even close.
• 1:16:49
  The second best CrossFit athlete since,
• 1:16:53
  not even close since her first year at
• 1:16:57
  the games.
• 1:16:58
  You don't get to be a games athlete
• 1:17:01
  and be afraid.
• 1:17:02
  No, especially not at her level.
• 1:17:04
  Right?
• 1:17:04
  Like she is,
• 1:17:06
  I would argue the second greatest CrossFit
• 1:17:09
  athlete on the female side ever.
• 1:17:14
  And you don't get there being afraid.
• 1:17:17
  It just does.
• 1:17:18
  Like that is not a champion's mindset and
• 1:17:21
  you don't get to that championship level
• 1:17:23
  having those types of fears.
• 1:17:25
  She just needs the field to be better.
• 1:17:28
  Just like people needed the field to be
• 1:17:30
  better against Matt,
• 1:17:31
  but we're just not there.
• 1:17:34
  Right.
• 1:17:35
  Like she's just so far ahead as well
• 1:17:37
  in second place.
• 1:17:38
  Um,
• 1:17:40
  Because there are events that she blows
• 1:17:43
  everyone out of the water, including Tia,
• 1:17:46
  but she's just not getting anyone
• 1:17:47
  middling.
• 1:17:50
  Tia's also so consistent.
• 1:17:53
  She said in one of the documentaries how
• 1:17:55
  much she wants to beat Tia.
• 1:17:56
  Of course.
• 1:17:59
  Harder for Laura to overcome,
• 1:18:01
  Tia or strict deficit handstand push-ups?
• 1:18:03
  Strict deficit handstand push-ups.
• 1:18:10
  All right.
• 1:18:14
  Next one.
• 1:18:16
  Don Fall on that same podcast I just
• 1:18:19
  talked about said he wasn't public facing
• 1:18:23
  enough over the last fifteen months.
• 1:18:28
  Is that good for CrossFit's momentum that
• 1:18:30
  he admitted that and a step forward for
• 1:18:34
  CrossFit?
• 1:18:38
  I said pencil to this.
• 1:18:44
  Pencil,
• 1:18:45
  like nothing means anything until action
• 1:18:47
  is seen.
• 1:18:49
  But it is nice to recognize that,
• 1:18:51
  for sure.
• 1:18:52
  Like you want to see.
• 1:18:56
  Yeah.
• 1:18:58
  You're going to be more forward facing,
• 1:18:59
  like we want to see it again,
• 1:19:00
  you know.
• 1:19:02
  Don is always like, he's,
• 1:19:05
  he's just a talker.
• 1:19:06
  Like he has that corporate speak.
• 1:19:08
  He's,
• 1:19:12
  but most of it is meaningless to me.
• 1:19:13
  Like every time I've heard him talk,
• 1:19:15
  I just like sitting there like, okay,
• 1:19:19
  what did you actually say?
• 1:19:20
  What are we actually going to see?
• 1:19:21
  Like, and,
• 1:19:22
  and I've never actually seen anything.
• 1:19:26
  It's why was he, was there,
• 1:19:30
  I didn't watch it.
• 1:19:31
  Was there,
• 1:19:33
  Context given to why he hasn't been,
• 1:19:35
  it's like he went into hiding after the
• 1:19:37
  death and didn't want to be seen and
• 1:19:40
  the ache.
• 1:19:44
  I'll take it a step further.
• 1:19:46
  I think that he not only went into
• 1:19:48
  hiding,
• 1:19:49
  he let one particular person take all the
• 1:19:53
  heat for everything that happened.
• 1:19:55
  Exactly.
• 1:19:57
  And it wasn't a one individual person.
• 1:20:03
  Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  Any mistakes made if you've worked in the
• 1:20:07
  corporate world at all,
• 1:20:09
  shit rolls downhill.
• 1:20:11
  So Dave took it all,
• 1:20:13
  but it is a,
• 1:20:14
  it is an organizational mistake.
• 1:20:16
  It is not a one person mistake because
• 1:20:20
  at, at the end of the day,
• 1:20:22
  everybody in line of that is,
• 1:20:24
  is responsible.
• 1:20:30
  Yeah.
• 1:20:30
  Yeah.
• 1:20:30
  And to me, like,
• 1:20:32
  that says a lot a lot about him
• 1:20:35
  and I like it would be very hard
• 1:20:38
  for me to ever like trust him or
• 1:20:40
  have a whole lot of respect in him
• 1:20:41
  again,
• 1:20:42
  like even if he's willing to be more
• 1:20:46
  forward facing it that so what we just
• 1:20:48
  get more corporate speak from him doesn't
• 1:20:50
  still doesn't do anything for me.
• 1:20:51
  Yeah,
• 1:20:55
  like what what are you looking for him
• 1:20:57
  to do like more talks like in terms
• 1:20:59
  of
• 1:21:00
  how Greg was talking about CrossFit and
• 1:21:03
  pushing it.
• 1:21:05
  What does he need to do to,
• 1:21:08
  I guess, redeem himself?
• 1:21:11
  What are you looking for him to do?
• 1:21:14
  I want to see a set of goals
• 1:21:16
  set and adhered to.
• 1:21:22
  This is our North Star.
• 1:21:23
  This is what we are about.
• 1:21:25
  This is where we're moving and actually
• 1:21:28
  see the action steps into moving in that
• 1:21:30
  direction.
• 1:21:31
  I think CrossFit has not had that since.
• 1:21:36
  I think when Greg fired the media
• 1:21:47
  department,
• 1:21:48
  we lost our North star before that it
• 1:21:52
  was about promoting what we do for health,
• 1:21:55
  what we do to get people living better
• 1:21:57
  lives, what we do for all of that.
• 1:22:01
  And once that media team was disbanded
• 1:22:04
  completely, now,
• 1:22:06
  could it have been reduced and still move
• 1:22:08
  forward with those goals?
• 1:22:09
  Sure.
• 1:22:10
  But that's not the choice Greg made at
• 1:22:11
  the time.
• 1:22:12
  He wiped it clean.
• 1:22:14
  And then they could not do the promotion
• 1:22:19
  of what CrossFit was all about.
• 1:22:24
  Yeah.
• 1:22:25
  The problem is,
• 1:22:27
  It was very clear what Greg's mission was.
• 1:22:30
  And Greg was willing to take on Coca-Cola
• 1:22:35
  or Pepsi or whatever.
• 1:22:36
  He was willing to take on anyone,
• 1:22:38
  the NICA.
• 1:22:42
  Don and HQ are about bumping up the
• 1:22:47
  numbers.
• 1:22:47
  And I don't see anything they can do
• 1:22:50
  that actually...
• 1:22:54
  makes things better for the affiliates so
• 1:22:59
  when they came out with bumping up numbers
• 1:23:00
  makes it better for the affiliates so when
• 1:23:03
  they came out with the marketing campaign
• 1:23:05
  of f the quick fix um i think
• 1:23:11
  it was a it was good with a
• 1:23:13
  step short of glp ones are making are
• 1:23:17
  not the answer
• 1:23:19
  Like instead of hiding behind a curse word
• 1:23:24
  and calling it a quick fix,
• 1:23:26
  let's call it what it is.
• 1:23:27
  GOP ones are changing the face of what
• 1:23:30
  people are calling health and it's wrong.
• 1:23:33
  And here's the science.
• 1:23:34
  Let's move in that direction.
• 1:23:39
  But are they going to take on big
• 1:23:40
  pharma?
• 1:23:41
  No.
• 1:23:42
  Like HQ is not,
• 1:23:44
  this venture capitalist is not going to
• 1:23:45
  take on,
• 1:23:47
  big pharma and start putting that kind of
• 1:23:48
  message out with like there's more,
• 1:23:51
  they attack that kind of stuff.
• 1:23:53
  Probably the more they're going to get,
• 1:23:54
  I mean, I don't even know.
• 1:23:57
  I don't know how that works in the
• 1:23:59
  corporate world.
• 1:23:59
  I just,
• 1:24:00
  I can see that not ending well for
• 1:24:02
  CrossFit.
• 1:24:04
  But I don't think CrossFit should look at
• 1:24:05
  itself as a part of the corporate world.
• 1:24:08
  I think it needs to look at itself
• 1:24:09
  as, Hey, we are the difference.
• 1:24:12
  We're, we're not,
• 1:24:14
  tech company we are not big pharma we
• 1:24:16
  are to make you healthy this is the
• 1:24:19
  long-term solution i don't know yeah i i
• 1:24:27
  get it i i think that's the proper
• 1:24:29
  take i just don't know if this a
• 1:24:31
  venture capitalist company is going to
• 1:24:33
  take that stance that's a hard line to
• 1:24:36
  draw
• 1:24:40
  I think CrossFit also needs a, like,
• 1:24:42
  what is CrossFit campaign?
• 1:24:45
  Like actually well-defined for like a
• 1:24:49
  promotional type thing,
• 1:24:51
  not just something that like they'll read
• 1:24:52
  on the CrossFit.com, but like an actual,
• 1:24:57
  I don't know,
• 1:24:57
  really good one minute video that can get
• 1:24:59
  pushed.
• 1:25:01
  And what it's not and the misconceptions
• 1:25:04
  of it.
• 1:25:05
  And like, keep pushing that.
• 1:25:08
  Cause I mean,
• 1:25:08
  it's still a negative taboo word.
• 1:25:13
  It seems, you know, it is.
• 1:25:15
  So you almost have to lean into it
• 1:25:17
  and be like, this is not across,
• 1:25:20
  you know, like whatever,
• 1:25:21
  but like some sort of campaign like that.
• 1:25:27
  Yeah,
• 1:25:27
  I think I like the campaigns that are
• 1:25:29
  coming out.
• 1:25:30
  I think they're missing two pieces and
• 1:25:32
  that is straight out bluntness of,
• 1:25:36
  of what you're talking about.
• 1:25:38
  Um,
• 1:25:39
  and to an action step at the end,
• 1:25:42
  this is where you can find help.
• 1:25:44
  Go, go to an affiliate map.
• 1:25:48
  That's,
• 1:25:48
  that's the piece I think they're missing.
• 1:25:52
  But if you listen to Zia,
• 1:25:55
  she's like it's charging the base and the
• 1:25:57
  base are bringing in more people to her
• 1:25:59
  affiliates.
• 1:26:00
  So maybe that's the start it needs to
• 1:26:02
  be.
• 1:26:05
  And so I don't want to like dog
• 1:26:07
  on Jenna or anybody for putting these out
• 1:26:09
  because I think they're quality.
• 1:26:10
  I think they are getting people fired up.
• 1:26:13
  But I don't know what the end result
• 1:26:15
  is.
• 1:26:16
  Are they getting to the right people to
• 1:26:17
  bring them into the affiliates?
• 1:26:19
  Right.
• 1:26:21
  But Zia is saying they are at the
• 1:26:24
  front lines working for her.
• 1:26:27
  I mean,
• 1:26:27
  I feel like until affiliate numbers grow,
• 1:26:30
  both number of affiliates and individuals
• 1:26:33
  inside the affiliates, I mean,
• 1:26:38
  we're losing.
• 1:26:39
  So, yeah.
• 1:26:46
  All right.
• 1:26:48
  All right.
• 1:26:50
  let's end it there.
• 1:26:51
  I don't, I,
• 1:26:53
  I don't think we know enough about the
• 1:26:54
  next one to talk about it enough earlier
• 1:26:56
  on in the show.
• 1:26:57
  All right.
• 1:26:58
  Um,
• 1:26:58
  so maybe we'll save it for another one.
• 1:27:00
  Okay.
• 1:27:01
  But, uh,
• 1:27:01
  I think it's been good conversation.
• 1:27:03
  Um,
• 1:27:04
  if you have any ideas for show topics,
• 1:27:07
  shoot them to us in the,
• 1:27:08
  in the comments below while you're doing
• 1:27:10
  that, make sure you like,
• 1:27:11
  and subscribe to the channel that really
• 1:27:13
  helps us.
• 1:27:14
  And it helps our algorithm.
• 1:27:16
  And, um,
• 1:27:20
  I agree, Scott, but Fired Up is great.
• 1:27:23
  Last few years, it's only been pissed off.
• 1:27:25
  And I see that point, Larry.
• 1:27:28
  And maybe this is step one that it
• 1:27:30
  needs.
• 1:27:30
  You need to get the base back up
• 1:27:32
  and then from there,
• 1:27:33
  then reach out to the next group.
• 1:27:35
  Yeah.
• 1:27:37
  And so maybe that's what it is.
• 1:27:38
  I think they're good.
• 1:27:39
  I'm not dogging them at all.
• 1:27:41
  I think the production's good.
• 1:27:42
  I think... I think they're good.
• 1:27:48
  Yeah, I do too.
• 1:27:48
  I just...
• 1:27:51
  at the very minimum,
• 1:27:52
  I wish there was a link at the,
• 1:27:53
  at the end saying,
• 1:27:54
  here's your affiliate map,
• 1:27:56
  go find an answer.
• 1:27:59
  And then just stories like every,
• 1:28:00
  every day, every week,
• 1:28:02
  stories of members and affiliates,
• 1:28:04
  what's going on, um, what they do,
• 1:28:07
  how they're doing CrossFit,
• 1:28:08
  like more stories all the time.
• 1:28:17
  Uh, uh,
• 1:28:22
  I think eighteen was really damaging and
• 1:28:24
  people forget about it because of the
• 1:28:27
  change of leadership that happened two
• 1:28:28
  years later.
• 1:28:29
  And they blame that when really the
• 1:28:32
  downward trend started in eighteen.
• 1:28:43
  Yeah.
• 1:28:43
  And no call to action.
• 1:28:46
  Links, choose your own adventure.
• 1:28:48
  I like that.
• 1:28:55
  Twenty made eighteen forgettable.
• 1:28:58
  Yeah.
• 1:28:58
  Yeah.
• 1:29:02
  But if you... Hiller, they're wasteful.
• 1:29:13
  Loving all the stuff you've been putting
• 1:29:14
  out, Andrew.
• 1:29:15
  It's been good.
• 1:29:17
  So, Hiller, what I would ask you is...
• 1:29:20
  What Zia said on the CrossFit podcast on
• 1:29:23
  Thursday made me reconsider some of the
• 1:29:27
  things I've been saying about the ads and
• 1:29:31
  that they are working for her.
• 1:29:33
  And so I'm curious to know your thoughts
• 1:29:36
  on that at some point.
• 1:29:37
  Doesn't have to be tonight,
• 1:29:38
  but I'm curious about that because she was
• 1:29:44
  adamant that they are working for her and
• 1:29:46
  she is very thankful for them.
• 1:29:49
  But she's also adamant about there are
• 1:29:51
  roles that HQ needs to play and what
• 1:29:53
  the affiliate owner needs to play and that
• 1:29:55
  they should not cross.
• 1:30:04
  While Hiller is here,
• 1:30:06
  maybe he's still here,
• 1:30:08
  he should come to the Everyday Heroes
• 1:30:10
  competition this weekend at Mayhem.
• 1:30:11
  Oh, that's right.
• 1:30:14
  Carolyn's competing this weekend.
• 1:30:16
  Jack Rosema is competing this weekend.
• 1:30:19
  I think Don Paul is supposed to be
• 1:30:20
  there this weekend.
• 1:30:22
  That's what we heard.
• 1:30:23
  There you go, Hiller.
• 1:30:24
  Go get an interview.
• 1:30:25
  He's probably tired of traveling, though.
• 1:30:27
  If you stay home,
• 1:30:27
  I will not blame you.
• 1:30:29
  South Korea.
• 1:30:31
  Well, last year,
• 1:30:31
  the educators took dead last.
• 1:30:34
  You going to change that up?
• 1:30:35
  Heck yeah.
• 1:30:37
  Get it, girl.
• 1:30:37
  All right.
• 1:30:40
  Do you know who your teammate is?
• 1:30:41
  Are you not willing to say that?
• 1:30:43
  No, I, yeah, I, um, I, uh,
• 1:30:45
  I picked the one that finished in second.
• 1:30:47
  We actually met this week.
• 1:30:48
  We did a,
• 1:30:49
  like a interview with Bella and that was
• 1:30:53
  the first time we've seen each other on
• 1:30:54
  video, but we've been chatting.
• 1:30:57
  Um, Arkansas.
• 1:30:59
  Okay.
• 1:31:01
  So she finished second in the,
• 1:31:03
  like in the division for educators.
• 1:31:07
  I think she did semifinals before her name
• 1:31:09
  is, uh, Maddie, Maddie Edwards.
• 1:31:12
  Okay.
• 1:31:15
  Good luck, Carolyn.
• 1:31:17
  Yeah.
• 1:31:18
  And I did hear them say that they're
• 1:31:20
  going to make a full highlight documentary
• 1:31:23
  that Mayhem's putting out right
• 1:31:24
  afterwards.
• 1:31:25
  So we'll be able to see it that
• 1:31:26
  way.
• 1:31:27
  Yeah.
• 1:31:27
  I mean, Mayhem's marketing is so good.
• 1:31:30
  Yeah.
• 1:31:30
  And their video stuff production is
• 1:31:32
  awesome.
• 1:31:34
  With that,
• 1:31:34
  we're going to call it a night.
• 1:31:36
  I am not sure about tomorrow's show.
• 1:31:39
  My next couple Mondays are all doctor's
• 1:31:41
  tests.
• 1:31:42
  So I just don't know when I'm going
• 1:31:44
  to be done with those,
• 1:31:46
  if I'll be back in time to do
• 1:31:47
  a lunch show or not.
• 1:31:48
  But I will definitely be back Tuesday.
• 1:31:50
  With that,
• 1:31:51
  we will see everybody next time.
• 1:31:53
  Like, subscribe, do all that stuff.
• 1:31:55
  We'll see everybody next time on Sunday
• 1:31:59
  night.
• 1:32:00
  Whoops.
• 1:32:01
  Sunday, Sunday,
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  Sunday night CrossFit talk.
• 1:32:06
  Bye, guys.