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'Looking Forward to Ryan's Rant"-The CFL Outsiders S03 E08 · The CFL Outsiders

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  Hey kids, welcome back to another episode of the CFL Outsiders.
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  I remain as always your one hundred percent impartial, completely unbiased, and very frazzled host, Old Man Shouting at Clouds.
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  Joining me as usual this week is MJ.
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  hey everyone, since the stampede is on, I think we all figured out this week who's all hat and no cattle.
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  Uh-huh.
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  Nice line.
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  And GT.
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  Hey everyone, welcome back to another week and another victory and we're in the right track.
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  We're going forward.
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  Alrighty.
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  Well, I'm gonna start out this week by saying that if they ever revive the XFL and I get to play, my nickname for my shirt gonna be Technology Hate Me.
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  Cuz it was a nasty week.
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  I apologize to everyone for the editing on last week's show.
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  Not great.
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  uh the program we use did an all-new wonderful AI-assisted upgrade, and it's
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  got some issues.
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  I'm hoping I've been working with it.
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  I think they've maybe done a patch or two.
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  It's a little bit better, but no, it was it was a little ridiculous.
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  I'd block out a section to edit out and it'd go great.
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  I'll take out a section ten minutes down the the track from it.
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  So it was a lot of it was trying to by guess and by golly.
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  And then the next day, so I did that on the Wednesday.
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  On the next day, the Thursday, I was getting all set to do my
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  Old man plays CFL Weekly Fantasy and And some truck drove underneath one of our local fiber optic lines and I lost all the internet for the entire day.
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  how is your fiber optic lines in the air?
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  That's what they do out here.
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  Too much rock, they don't bury it.
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  It's strung overhead on the phone lines and it goes across a road somewhere and it didn't anymore.
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  so anyone that that caught the podcast or the video version of of the fantasy show, I did it all on my mobile, so it was rather abbreviated and uh hopefully it was some help to
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  you.
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  And hopefully this will week will be better.
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  But the other thing about it.
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  What was, I'm told, the best game of the year, the most fun, exciting game to watch between Calgary and Toronto.
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  I managed to find a stream of QR seven seventy out of Calgary and listen to it on the radio.
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  So I di I didn't even see that, because it just it was gone until almost midnight.
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  So when we get there, I'll be leaning on you.
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  But that was my week.
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  Hopefully yours was all a bit better.
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  Anything worth complaining about or nothing to trumpet?
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  Still vertical after all these years, as I like to say.
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  Alrighty then.
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  Yep.
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  On the right side of the grass, as they say.
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  So let's start with the big news this week, and I feel well not responsible, but it's just funny how things work out.
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  I came back from the BC Edmonton game, and as I was going home it occurred to me, my gorsh, we're
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  Almost through week five and every starting quarterback is standing.
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  I shouldn't be thinking things like that, 'cause Sunday night's game was bad.
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  First Zack went down with a upper body injury and then we lost Bo.
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  Zach it's hard to tell, they haven't said anything.
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  Bo got
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  Sacked by Cerezna where his leg got rolled up on it was obvious he was hurt right away, and they have since announced from the Tiger Cats that he underwent surgery on Monday
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  morning and will be moving into rehab.
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  No word on if he's coming back wh or how soon or anything like that.
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  So
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  I know what your thoughts are, MJ.
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  And I'm glad and I'm happy to see that there are no open tears But just in general, what do you think about what does this do for both the Tiger Cats and East Division and the
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  league now?
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  Well, that coaching staff was the most unprepared for a quarterback going down I have ever witnessed.
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  That was horrendous.
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  They I Bo's 36.
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  I know he didn't get hurt last year, but this is my thing, you gotta be giving your backup some reps at practice.
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  you need to be running plays with the top line receivers.
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  if you never have game time experience, you can't expect people with no game time experience to just jump in.
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  when a starter goes down and just to have it just move smoothly along.
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  the bombers moved pretty smoothly along.
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  They did okay.
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  Ti cats didn't.
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  so I mean that game aside, this is a bigger issue of what they're going to do.
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  what is Jared Baines I can't believe he has a job today that
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  I honestly.
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  and my bad for thinking Scott was a good coach when maybe it was just Bo all along because that was horrendous.
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  so now we need another backup quarterback and who's available?
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  Is it going to be Tyree Adams, who's just finishing up in the AFL, Is it Jeremiah Mazzoli?
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  He's been in Hamilton before.
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  Is it Shay Patterson?
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  Is it Caleb Evans?
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  Do they try to desperately trade for Nick Arbuckle?
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  I don't know, like Brock Sutherland and Orlando Steinhauer gonna have their work cut out for them.
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  Let's see what they can do.
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  But it's it has to be better than that.
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  It has to be.
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  If nothing else as a coach, you should at least know who your backup is.
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  Because apparently they don't.
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  The carousel.
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  The carousel of quarterbacks.
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  And a good OC can play call for the quarterback.
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  If you're a good OC, you can call plays for a specific quarterback, and that did not happen for either Dolagala or Ford in that game.
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  How about you, G T?
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  What's your thoughts?
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  Yeah, well as soon as they showed that replay, I s I said, nah, his foot's not supposed to look like that.
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  It was going the opposite direction.
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  they have not said exactly what it was other than it was a bro it was broken.
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  but they haven't said which bone was broken, they haven't said how many it was broken, they haven't said the degree of the break, they haven't told us anything other than Bo's
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  gonna be back as soon as he can.
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  So
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  We're really kinda in the dark.
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  That could be six weeks.
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  That could be, you know, if it's a simple fracture or something like that, it could be, you know, it could be six weeks.
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  It might be back for playoffs.
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  it could be season ending, it could be career ending.
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  We don't know any of that yet.
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  And maybe they are not sure themselves and they don't want to talk about it because they're not sure.
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  But it's not really forthcoming of of them to not tell us at least the extent of the injury.
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  Because it wasn't obvious.
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  Like when Chad Kelly broke his leg there, it was obvious what had happened.
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  So you knew that that was going to be a long time.
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  And they announced right away.
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  this could be as significant as that.
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  he could be gone for the rest of this year and into early next year Because don't forget, next year moves forward by a month as well.
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  So the recovery time is a month less than it than you would normally have.
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  and he's thirty six, will be thirty seven by next year.
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  let's hope this isn't something that that finishes him finishes Bo's career.
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  I don't think that it will be, but you never know.
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  it may be his own decision.
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  It may be something as simple as, I don't need this anymore Um, I've got a job waiting for me in somewhere in media or somewhere else And it doesn't look like, I have the
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  opportunity to bring the cup back to Hamilton after all.
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  So it could be as simple as that.
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  but it was it wasn't anybody's fault.
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  It's just one of those things.
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  it just was bad luck and a football injury.
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  so don't blame anyone.
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  Don't get freaked out about, you know, bat dirty play or anything, because it wasn't.
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  it's really unfortunate that, you know, a guy that's on a third year in a row of maybe being the MOP and looking like he is gonna finally break that drought for the fans of
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  Hamilton.
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  it's really, really unfortunate for him for the league overall to lose a a player like that.
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  and in Winnipeg, At first I thought that was a high hit.
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  My immediate reaction to that, even as the play happened, was that I said, that's high.
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  But then when they re-showed it, it was on the shoulder.
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  So
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  It's more than likely his neck rather than a concussion.
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  As always, every time he gets a hit, everybody jumps to the conclusion that it's a concussion, but it wasn't necessarily a concussion.
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  It could be that neck injury that he had last year re aggravated.
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  He looked more pissed off than he'd injured on the sidelines.
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  So I think that he's probably going to be back, as MJ said, I think he's gonna be back sooner than later, if not this week's uh maybe the week after.
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  so although they might, you know,
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  They might give him a couple of weeks to because they're playing, I think, a couple of weaker opponents.
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  so they might want to just take some time with him.
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  But I don't think that's as desperate a situation as as Hamilton.
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  Hamilton is basically, for want of a better word, screwed.
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  they have nobody in the system.
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  Trey Ford, the luster is off, the shine's off the bloom or whatever you want to call it.
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  But he's not the guy that we thought he was going to be at this stage.
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  I agree with MJ.
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  They did nothing to help him.
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  They did nothing to help Dolagala but I'm not as sold on I've never been sold on him either.
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  so they need to find somebody, m Mazzoli might be the best bet simply because he at least has enough experience to step in.
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  Because I've heard, Duggan's name thrown around.
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  I've heard
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  all these other guys, Tyree Adams and so on, but they've never had a lot of experience themselves.
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  So it's not like you can just expect them to all of a sudden put you back in the playoff race.
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  This completely upsets the Apple cart in the East as far as I'm concerned.
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  like Montreal with barring an injury to to D Alex Davis Alexander should walk to the Eastern title now.
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  And Toronto should finish in second.
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  they really should.
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  Uh
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  you mentioned Nick Arbuckle.
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  Would Toronto trade him?
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  I mean, they're looking at the same situation.
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  I mean, if Kelly goes down, they're looking at exactly the same situation.
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  I don't know what they're going to do.
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  Um, I really don't.
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  And my first thought was they shouldn't be making a trade with Winnipeg for because now no no, they're not getting Drew, but they could
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  No, I don't th no, I think Drew's the guy that the I think Drew's gonna be there.
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  But I I think the you know, that you could get the the the guy that's doing short run short yardage right now that was in the UFL before.
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  He's at least been in a system.
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  He at least knows the league a little bit.
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  though.
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  The Tycats have two of those guys.
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  Mm, do they?
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  'Cause who else do they have?
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  Who's behind those two guys,
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  they have they have two backup short yardage type guys already.
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  honestly I wish in my in my dream scenario in this situation the Ti Cats would get if you could trade coaches
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  would get Jarius Jackson to come over to Hamilton and run offense for Trey Ford because they worked really well in Edmonton together and that in my head that is what needs to
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  happen and it obviously will not and it's gonna be I betcha Jeremiah's Mazzoli's packing his bags right now.
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  yeah, I I suspect it's gonna be Missoli.
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  I suspect I
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  win Hamilton a Grey Cup the second time through.
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  Stranger things have happened.
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  but uh I just don't know what they're going to do otherwise.
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  as we talked about going into the season, the problem wasn't with starting quarterbacks, it was with backup quarterbacks.
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  and I thought the only place that had a solid backup quarterback that you could rely on was Toronto.
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  And it's still the case, in my opinion.
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  Maybe Edmonton.
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  Maybe Edmonton.
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  this is what happened to Montreal last year when Alexander went down how many games did McMBT win?
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  Not very many.
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  And they just look and they kinda deflated, like the tie cast deflated, like their entire team deflated if he wasn't on the field.
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  Winnipeg didn't deflate when Zack went out.
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  Hamilton collapsed on like all three levels.
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  They just completely crumbled.
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  And that's exactly what happened to Montreal, but we don't have a timeline, whereas Alexander, you did have a bit of more of a timeline, so we'll see.
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  And for Milanovich to come out and say that both of those two quarterbacks have different strengths and they run different plays better and and they're not as good at other plays,
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  it's like, yikes.
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  Like how can you not have full faith in your quarterback to run your full playbook?
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  If that's the case, why is he your second string quarterback?
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  that's crazy.
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  That's crazy.
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  these quarterbacks all of spring training?
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  I d D me pff Brock Sutherland is senior director of player personnel.
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  Scott Milanovich is head coach like what what were these men doing?
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  Because it wasn't their job.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, I've gotta agree with you that the cupboard is very bare.
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  I don't see frankly I don't see Mazzoli as a viable option after watching him watching him in BC Well, I yeah, I I think no, I personally I think your best hope is that Milanovich
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  can adapt his offense, can be a good OC and adapt to Trey.
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  No he won't.
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  got potential.
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  He may not be a fantastic quarterback, but if you let him use his natural ability, he's better than anybody else that's out there right now.
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  is the man that benched Bo
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  Right.
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  A hundred percent.
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  Exactly.
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  saying though.
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  Yeah.
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  not going to even remotely try to play to Tre's strengths and it's so boneheaded.
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  But he is determined to make passers, pocket passers, and end of.
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  And if you don't aren't a pocket passer, which makes me insane.
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  Why did you sign him if you knew this?
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  And they're probably like, Scott, we'll just work with him.
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  They'll figure it out.
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  I don't know.
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  the only other option that I see out there, and personally I don't think it's a better option than Trey or even Mazzoli, but if you're looking for someone who's at least been in
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  a system for a while and has played one or two games, you could check and see how high the riders are on Shagler, their number three guy that everybody was so big on in the off
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  season, and see if you could do a trade for Jack Cohen.
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  Because he's at least been in the CFL for four years now.
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  He's played a few games.
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  Hasn't necessarily looked fantastic, but I honestly can't think of another name out there.
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  'cause you're not bringing in someone without any CFL experience off a and and expecting them to do anything, so and no and no
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  to find out if it's a six game injured situation or a we're done for the year situation before they like start panicking.
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  Well they yeah.
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  I can't think of another team that's in a position they'd be willing to trade whatever they have for a backup.
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  nobody's great, so they're they're gonna hold on to the best they've got.
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  Well well that's the only that's the only reason I mention Winnipeg, 'cause Winnipeg to me is the only team right now that has has a surplus of quarterbacks because they just traded
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  for Drew Brown.
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  So they have four guys right now.
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  And so they they have one that they could move.
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  Um I don't think it's gonna be Drew Brown and it's certainly not gonna be Zach.
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  and I don't think they've given up uh on Taylor yet.
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  I don't see it.
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  I think it it's Perkins, I think, isn't it?
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  That's the third string in in Winnipeg.
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  he's got short yardage experience for a few games.
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  He does not know the CFL either, that's the whole thing.
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  That's not an option, you know, unless you're going way back in the cupboard.
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  who is the guy that that was uh their saviour in Edmonton?
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  I can't remember the tall
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  Uh Tyler Cornelius.
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  If he signs in Hamilton, I am not watching any of those games.
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  Yeah.
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  it's bad news for the team, it's bad news for the league, 'cause it takes a competitive team that had a a shot out of it unless Milanovich can adjust his coaching.
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  Scott and Jared are gonna have to f just like bite the bullet and swallow their pride and play call for someone who is not a pocket passer.
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  End of.
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  it's if you're a professional, it's what you do.
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  And on the Zach side I tend to agree with you, GT.
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  I mean I'm not a doctor and you certainly don't diagnose things from a television screen, but overall he did not appear concussed to me.
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  He did not seem out of sorts that bad.
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  So I tend to think yeah, better chance it's a neck injury.
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  Is that better or worse news?
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  I don't know.
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  A concussion, depend if it's not a bad one, you know, maybe a week or two he's back in, but if that neck is acting up again, that could be off and on all season like it was last
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  year.
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  yeah, exactly.
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  It was four or five weeks, I think he missed last year.
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  So yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  But it i it wasn't a great weekend for Bo all round because he did put team above friends.
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  You were gonna tell us a little bit about that, MJ.
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  Or Z I Zach, did I say Bo?
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  Sorry.
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  Yeah, you never know.
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  No.
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  No, sorry, Zach.
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  Yes, thank you for correcting me.
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  Right, so in case you didn't know, Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift got married in New York on Friday.
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  And in case you also didn't know, Zach is really good friends with Travis Kelsey.
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  They were roommates together in the University in Cincinnati and they played on the same football team.
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  I think um Jason was also one of their roommates.
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  Can you imagine the three of those men in one house?
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  Anyway,
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  He got invited to the wedding.
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  He's really, really friend.
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  I actually thought he might be in the wedding party, but they didn't have bridal parties.
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  Zach got interviewed.
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  He said that he told Taylor and Travis to check the damn schedule because he had a game that weekend.
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  So he didn't go, and he said it was really too bad because Travis was at his bachelor party and his wedding, engaged party, all the things.
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  Travis has come to all of those things, and so he couldn't go.
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  However, I said the wedding is in New York and you're playing in Hamilton on Sunday.
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  I feel like you could have gone to that wedding.
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  Anyway he played and he got hurt.
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  So karma is a breeze on the weekend.
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  Yeah.
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  If he'd gone off to be with his friends and missed the game, he'd be feeling fine now.
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  the game.
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  I think you could have done both.
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  I think he was I was like, Is this O'Shea who wouldn't let him go or is this Zack?
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  I just need to be super prepared for this game, I couldn't go.
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  Yeah, who knows?
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  It's it's funny.
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  Um the all the karma stuff is like is kinda silly, but it is kind of fun.
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  I wanna call a bit of an audible here based on the the lineup that we talked about for the show, the show lineup.
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  And just mention something as well while we're talking about this wedding thing.
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  Because I did something earlier in the day where I had said I don't care about this wedding and I don't care about the other event of the weekend because it's just fluff.
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  But
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  MJ, you were correct.
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  And you said the other event, which of course it we we can talk about during the BC game if you like, is not just fluff because it is PR.
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  And I think it shows a bit of the CFL dichotomy right there, in that certainly we're different age groups.
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  And my immediate reaction is who cares?
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  It's ridiculous.
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  It's silly.
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  It's just nonsense.
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  I don't care.
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  I want to talk football.
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  You and your demographic and your age group are more interested in that.
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  And I think that's something that we have to be prepared for.
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  And as the league, they have to embrace.
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  So in some ways, I'm glad that they have brought it up.
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  I think they should have done a better job on the in retrospect.
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  I think they should have done a better job on the BC Edmonton game of showing some of that footage.
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  from whatever that other show is, because I never heard of it, but that doesn't mean anything.
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  Other people have heard of it and it's free publicity and you take advantage of the publicity.
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  And certainly when it's publicity aimed at a demographic that you're trying to reach, you should take advantage of it.
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  So I wanted to apologize during the podcast for dissing you off in the in my note to you earlier in the day.
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  And then when I thought about it, I thought, no, you know what?
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  It's absolutely right and we should be talking about it.
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  sorry for a little bit of a rant, but nonetheless.
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  okay.
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  Let let me jump in just so people aren't confused.
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  He GT's talking about Canada Shore and the B C Lions, if you haven't seen the article.
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  the the cast of Canada Shore filmed and helped out at a practice and some of the Lions weren't impressed.
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  yeah Yeah, who was?
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  And and
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  Not to get your demographic thing wrong, GT, but it was me that said should we talk about and MJ said, I'm not that worried about it.
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  well 'cause I wanna circle back.
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  I'm not done talking about Taylor Swift And then we'll go to Canada Shore But I just think you don't even realize when Travis Kelsey started dating Taylor Swift, what that did for
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  like NFL is already big, but that brought viewership and interest I didn't even know who Travis Kelsey was.
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  And now I know everything about the Kansas City Chiefs.
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  Like I know all
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  Of it.
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  It's how?
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  It's just like osmosis.
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  Can you imagine what this it would do for the CFL if like Travis and Taylor showed up at a Winnipeg Blue Bombers game to watch Zach play?
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  Right?
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  Like, that's you just you mmm.
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  Anyway, so yeah, it is it is a big deal, and I wish they had hyped up Zach not going to that wedding more.
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  I don't know it to me it would have been a tough thing to miss just because it's that wedding and you know, just the the event of it.
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  I mean Adam Sandler was officiating, it was a hard decision, but but he made it.
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  I would have gone to the wedding.
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  Yeah, I'm surprised that he didn't.
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  I'm as I'm with you, MJ.
• 22:28
  I mean he could have done a Vince Carter just flown in and flown out like he did for his commencement.
• 22:33
  It it's just like you know, yeah.
• 22:36
  early, you were right.
• 22:37
  You were already in Ontario.
• 22:38
  It was so close.
• 22:40
  I dunno
• 22:40
  Yeah.
• 22:41
  any of the casual shots after the wedding have a bomber cap on.
• 22:45
  Cause what kind of publicity would that get for people?
• 22:48
  Kelsey has his stuff, kids and bombers stuff all the time.
• 22:51
  He's always posting, and I wish the CFL and the bombers would repost that thing those things because he does put all their kids in bombers gear.
• 22:58
  Anyway,
• 22:59
  Yeah.
• 23:00
  And uh And then on this other stuff, I don't know that we need to talk a lot, it's been covered by people.
• 23:05
  this whole Canada Shore thing.
• 23:06
  It's a an offshoot to the Jersey shore that was big down in the States.
• 23:10
  And they've somehow decided that Kelowna is the party capital of Canada and they've put a show in here with a bunch of twenty somethings acting.
• 23:21
  I don't know.
• 23:22
  Yeah.
• 23:23
  Yeah.
• 23:23
  What what the what the w what the people want to see.
• 23:26
  Yeah.
• 23:27
  And if and if the crossover brings in viewers, I'm all for it.
• 23:30
  Is it's not you know, this has gotten so much publicity because of what it is, which is, you know, basically a a show that's playing on the whole sex appeal stuff of it La yeah.
• 23:42
  it it's cantonally clad women running around with water bottles.
• 23:45
  Give me a break.
• 23:46
  As we talked about before, is that the best marketing?
• 23:49
  No, but that's what it is.
• 23:51
  And so it's marketing there's viewership there, take advantage of it.
• 23:55
  Right?
• 23:56
  So
• 23:57
  It's not not the first time it's happened.
• 23:59
  Last year the what do they call it?
• 24:01
  The Amazing Race Canada had the riders involved during their stop in Regina.
• 24:07
  Yeah.
• 24:08
  Yeah.
• 24:09
  And they took advantage of that and used the marketing for it.
• 24:12
  So yeah, might as well do it.
• 24:14
  But
• 24:15
  Um, maybe w the three of us should have a viewing party of that episode.
• 24:19
  Sure.
• 24:20
  Do something live on YouTube, yes.
• 24:22
  interested.
• 24:23
  Okay.
• 24:24
  It's airing, I didn't even know it was happening.
• 24:26
  Yeah.
• 24:26
  I did yeah I was at least interested in watching, must have dogs but I'm not interested in watching that
• 24:33
  Yeah.
• 24:34
  Did you finish watching Must Love Dogs, GT?
• 24:36
  one I still have an episode to watch.
• 24:39
  been since I since I've been back, I have not watched the the finale, so I will get to it.
• 24:44
  No spoilers.
• 24:45
  I had another subscription running out I had to finish a bunch of shows with before my before my free subscription ran out.
• 24:51
  So I was squeezing that.
• 24:55
  And I and I ha I personally I haven't watched yet only because I have a bit of a soft heart around dogs and I've been told some of the situations they show can be a little
• 25:04
  tough to watch that they're rescuing the dogs from.
• 25:06
  So I'm not sure if I want to put myself through that or not.
• 25:10
  That's enough of that.
• 25:10
  Moving on.
• 25:11
  be in the background of this show.
• 25:13
  Who knows?
• 25:14
  Maybe I will be,
• 25:15
  because I don't know if they were there on Saturday, but I was.
• 25:19
  Apple Bowl two point or Apple Bowl part two, whatever.
• 25:23
  I don't want to waste a lot of time on this because I talked about it last week, but I do want to give the Lions full kudos for the stuff that they've done.
• 25:30
  Again, it was another home run, hit it out of the park, and they listened to the complaints or criticisms for the week
• 25:39
  before they of course, like I said, they couldn't do anything about the seating.
• 25:41
  They heard that the PA was bad, they brought in a bunch of extra speakers and it was perfect.
• 25:46
  It was one of the better ones that I've ever been at for a professional football game.
• 25:51
  They talked about the fact that they ran out of almost all the booze by halftime l last week, while this week they had they have beer and then they have the harg type coolers.
• 26:02
  So gin coolers, vodka coolers like that.
• 26:04
  The coolers still they were
• 26:07
  Putting tape up over their names on the menus before the game even started.
• 26:10
  So so they were popular.
• 26:12
  But the beer was around un until at the end of the game they had uh local musicians, the young'uns on doing a postgame forty five minute concert, and there was beer still
• 26:21
  available for that.
• 26:23
  So just all around a great, great job.
• 26:26
  I'm very impressed with it.
• 26:28
  It's not like we said last week, it's not something that sustains for long term, but it was
• 26:35
  It was good.
• 26:36
  And I'll talk about in attendance they came close to selling out again.
• 26:39
  So there we go.
• 26:41
  I like said, don't want to talk about that a lot more though.
• 26:43
  I I guess we should talk a little bit.
• 26:45
  I last week I didn't think we had any co any guesses on our lyrical eloquence, so let me just recap this for if there's any new viewers.
• 26:52
  This is something GT suggested a few shows back.
• 26:55
  So we are now, when possible, sneaking in a line from a song.
• 27:00
  And if you catch it, we ask you to write in in comments or contact us on Blue Sky or Reddit or whatever and tell us what the song was and who the artist was.
• 27:09
  nobody picked them up this week.
• 27:11
  for last week, I did a little bit of Queen.
• 27:13
  You're my best friend.
• 27:14
  Yeah.
• 27:17
  I knew I th I tried to make it easy the way I did did that in the middle of the segment on lyrical eloquence.
• 27:23
  How how about the two of you?
• 27:24
  Any did you drop one each or?
• 27:27
  Well, actually it's perfect to follow up on the Apple Bowl experience, uh, right into this because I as I said at the end of last week's show, I actually used I used the same song
• 27:37
  twice with two different lines from la in last week's show and both of them were to do with the B C Lions and the Kelowna experience and everything, it was Joe Wall's Rocky
• 27:49
  Mountain Way.
• 27:50
  And if you and I used it
• 27:52
  twice in uh in two different ways.
• 27:55
  I said when we were talking about the firing of the the coach I used out to pastor think it's safe to stay time to open fire.
• 28:02
  And then when we were talking about them possibly going 0 4, I said and we don't need the ladies crying 'cause the story's sad.
• 28:10
  We all know that, you know, that's a Rocky mountain way and Joe Walsh
• 28:15
  We we snuck past people.
• 28:19
  All righty.
• 28:20
  obscure but it is semi obscure.
• 28:22
  So there you go.
• 28:23
  exactly.
• 28:24
  I'm trying to be less obscure, but apparently it's still a little too obscure Although we've had some good guesses and people have picked them up in weeks in the past.
• 28:32
  So keep trying, folks.
• 28:33
  We're having fun with it.
• 28:33
  Hope you do too.
• 28:35
  I put in two sets of Taylor Swift lyrics and no one figured it out.
• 28:39
  Mm, including me.
• 28:40
  Go figure.
• 28:41
  So what what were the lyrics you used?
• 28:43
  they're both from the Midnights album.
• 28:45
  One was Karma is my boyfriend, and then from the title track Karma and I'm so in love I might miss up breathing from the song Paris in honor of the Swift Wedding.
• 28:59
  Yes, and it should have been on everyone's mind.
• 29:01
  How did they miss that?
• 29:02
  Perhaps our audience is not fully Taylor Swift compliant.
• 29:05
  Well ch too bad for them.
• 29:08
  Alrighty.
• 29:09
  Uh again, just rapid fire through a bunch of stuff.
• 29:11
  We've been talking about the attendance every week, up, down, up, down, and it followed that trend again.
• 29:16
  it was up week four, week five was back down.
• 29:18
  And it seems like it's got a lot to do with the stadiums.
• 29:20
  Hamilton had twenty thousand and change in there, and they were the top ones.
• 29:24
  Toronto and had nineteen yeah, or Calgary with Toronto there had just over nineteen thousand.
• 29:30
  I said the Apple Bowl was almost a sellout.
• 29:32
  They said last week it was a sellout at 19,109.
• 29:36
  This week it was nineteen thousand and eighty-three.
• 29:38
  So they were apparently twenty-six short of a sellout.
• 29:42
  And then Ottawa again was down just over fifteen thousand, unfortunately.
• 29:46
  So the average was eighteen thousand three hundred and eighty-two.
• 29:50
  I was really disappointed looking at the stands in two games.
• 29:54
  particularly in Calgary, with it being Stampede Bowl in the night before Stampede, I thought that would look really bad.
• 30:00
  And then I thought Hamilton looked really bad considering again that team and Bo I thought it would be well attended and just didn't look like it.
• 30:07
  Now I know there's lots of reasons for that.
• 30:09
  It was Canada Day
• 30:10
  It falls on the first of July.
• 30:12
  It doesn't mean you get a long weekend.
• 30:14
  However, it also means that a lot of people take the other two days of the week off and make it a long weekend.
• 30:19
  that's what I'm told happened in Calgary and in uh Hamilton
• 30:23
  So
• 30:24
  is interesting in Calgary is that during Stampede all the locals leave and all the tourists come in.
• 30:32
  So if the tourists don't know about your football game, none of the locals are there.
• 30:37
  Well, next game may be better because since we've started doing this, I've held off watching any or listening to any of the other CFL podcasts until we're done taping so that
• 30:49
  I don't get inadvertently steal stuff and plagiarize I mostly do that.
• 30:53
  This week I did listen to Three Down Nation because I was hoping for more info on bow and it wasn't there.
• 30:59
  But one thing they did say which I didn't know
• 31:02
  is apparently the Stampeders do have a promotion on this year that whatever their score is in a game, the next game you get that percentage off the ticket price.
• 31:12
  So the next next Calgary game, any tickets they sell will be fifty-eight percent off.
• 31:17
  So maybe that will bring more of a crowd in.
• 31:21
  Yeah.
• 31:21
  And if they win it'll be back to back against Montreal.
• 31:24
  you're right, it should be a better crowd.
• 31:26
  But yeah, that's a great promotion.
• 31:28
  that's a thin edge to walk as you know, whenever you give tickets away or reduce pricing, you may be ticking off your current price holders and ticket holders, et cetera, et
• 31:37
  cetera.
• 31:37
  So whatever.
• 31:39
  I doubt they thought they'd be giving them at fifty eight percent off anywhere through the season.
• 31:45
  Yeah.
• 31:47
  my gosh, yes.
• 31:49
  the jerseys you you're selling, you don't have a Toronto one, do you?
• 31:52
  Oh.
• 31:54
  that.
• 31:54
  I was gonna talk about that during the game during uh the uh during the the recap of the game, but yeah, there is a uh ninety four dollar price tag on a Kerry Joseph Toronto
• 32:04
  Argonaut jersey.
• 32:05
  if you're looking for that jersey, you may wanna have a low scoring game when they return to Toronto.
• 32:10
  we'll talk about that more during the game, like you said.
• 32:12
  But yeah.
• 32:13
  Okay.
• 32:14
  Well that so that that's where we're at.
• 32:16
  Plus we're back with games in Winnipeg and Saskatchewan this week.
• 32:21
  And Montreal usually does well.
• 32:24
  Edmonton's on a a bit of a burner, so who knows?
• 32:27
  Maybe they'll get some stuff up and we'll get a a real good set of attendance this week.
• 32:31
  But
• 32:33
  Part of the reason we've said in the past maybe the attendance isn't as good as it is was the pricing, and we didn't know anything about that, so Cub Reporter MJ was assigned to go
• 32:42
  on out and and tell us how is the pricing in CFL tickets these days.
• 32:47
  Okay, guys, I did some research.
• 32:49
  I uh completely wrecked the algorithm on my Ticketmaster.
• 32:52
  I can't believe I had to try type the Toronto Argonauts into it.
• 32:55
  It's like it's just ruined.
• 32:56
  but I went and looked at some games, tried to keep the games close together in July, August, and um the the highest price and the lowest price for everyone and if they had a
• 33:05
  kids ticket.
• 33:06
  Alright, BC Lions, highest ticket $250.
• 33:09
  Lowest ticket $25, kids tickets.
• 33:13
  twenty bucks.
• 33:15
  So not so bad.
• 33:17
  The Elks highest tickets a hundred about a hundred.
• 33:19
  Okay, and these are not without service fees.
• 33:22
  Please add on service fees to these.
• 33:24
  I cause some people's service fees some people's service fees were a lot higher than other teams.
• 33:32
  Like Toronto's was like thirty dollars a ticket.
• 33:34
  elks so $108.
• 33:36
  Lowest ticket was about $30.
• 33:38
  Kids ticket was about $26.75.
• 33:42
  Calgary, highest ticket was $170.
• 33:44
  Lowest was $32.
• 33:46
  Kids was $32.
• 33:48
  Riders.
• 33:48
  Highest ticket was $428.
• 33:51
  For like the lounge access.
• 33:53
  But you can you can just buy and then the lowest ticket was $38.
• 33:56
  Kids tickets were about $22.
• 33:59
  the bombers were $134.
• 34:01
  For the highest ticket, lowest ticket was $35.
• 34:03
  Kids were $18.
• 34:05
  The Argos highest ticket was $100.
• 34:07
  Lowest ticket was about $38.
• 34:09
  They don't have I couldn't find any kids prices.
• 34:12
  Um Ti Cats highest ticket was $126.
• 34:16
  Lowest ticket was $65.70.
• 34:20
  No kids tickets.
• 34:22
  So that's like $65 for sitting in the upper deck.
• 34:25
  Red Blacks, highest ticket, $287.
• 34:28
  Lowest ticket $25, no kids' tickets.
• 34:32
  Alouettes don't even use Ticketmaster.
• 34:34
  It was the best.
• 34:34
  I had to go on like a little like hunt.
• 34:36
  They
• 34:38
  They sell it right through their website.
• 34:39
  They have a whole separate thing.
• 34:41
  Their highest tickets were two hundred and twenty six dollars, lowest thirty, and they have promos where kids are ten dollars.
• 34:47
  Kids tickets are ten dollars.
• 34:49
  thought that was just this weekend though.
• 34:50
  I didn't think that was ongoing.
• 34:52
  It's not every game, but a l there's a few games down the stretch where kids tickets are ten dollars.
• 34:57
  bottom line is they can get a bit pricey for those that want to spend it, but you can still for a pro sports game, you can still get tickets at a reasonable price.
• 35:07
  And I haven't been in all the stadiums, but the ones I've been in, there's none where your sight line is completely obscured that I've come across.
• 35:14
  Well, I mean like for the Hamilton if there's four people going, that's two hundred sixty dollars plus ticket master fees, plus parking, plus drinks, plus food.
• 35:23
  So that's turning into a four hundred dollar night afternoon pretty fast for one game.
• 35:29
  again for nine games of the year and sports like hockey and baseball from what I know you can spend that for every game.
• 35:38
  while that's what Ticketmaster will tell you.
• 35:40
  That's not what tickets cost.
• 35:42
  and because I've always found that if you do that kind of a search on Ticketmaster, it always seems to be more money than you will actually pay.
• 35:50
  I regularly attend Toronto, Hamilton, and Ottawa games and and occasionally Montreal games, and then on a rare occasion I will fly back to Calgary.
• 36:01
  When I fly back to Calgary, I'm shocked at the ticket prices at how expensive they are for the same kind of seating packages.
• 36:07
  I am always amazed at my season ticket prices in Toronto.
• 36:11
  I sit on the thirty five yard line of second tier right up behind the Argo bench and we are on top of the like on top of this of the field and it cost me twenty eight dollars a
• 36:23
  game.
• 36:24
  twenty eight dollars a game.
• 36:27
  I buy tickets in Hamilton on occasion not through the ticket office, via the Ti Cats and I pay anywhere for the same s same kind of tickets, usually a little higher, uh, but again
• 36:39
  around the thirty yard line cost me about forty dollars a ticket.
• 36:43
  and that's again getting into
• 36:46
  mid level in the stadium or higher.
• 36:49
  Mid to two thirds up in the stadium.
• 36:51
  When I was in Calgary I paid eighty dollars for the same kind of ticket I paid twenty eight dollars for in Toronto.
• 36:57
  And I was shocked and and uh flabbergasted that it cost that much to go to a Stampede game.
• 37:02
  So I go, Wow, no wonder there's not the stands aren't full at that kind of money on a regular basis, to be honest with you.
• 37:10
  I wouldn't do it.
• 37:11
  well not that I wouldn't do it, of course I would do it.
• 37:13
  But
• 37:14
  But I'm amazed at the difference.
• 37:16
  Uh bar none, the Argos are the best value of any professional sports team in this country.
• 37:23
  There simply isn't anything else out there at that kind of price, at that kind of seating capacity, at that kind of uh competition level
• 37:31
  As I say, twenty eight dollars a ticket is what it costs me every and it has not gone up for the five years I've had season tickets.
• 37:40
  So
• 37:41
  we'll see if that changes in Toronto because there's been a slight change in the ownership there.
• 37:47
  I think it was a year or two ago that Rogers and the other minority owners bought up Bell's share of it.
• 37:55
  Well it was announced this week that Rogers is buying out the other minority owners now.
• 37:59
  So who knows if that will
• 38:01
  be a positive or a negative change towards it.
• 38:04
  most of the commentary I've seen on social media out of Toronto is that Rogers was the least enthusiastic of the owners about having the Argos in the first place.
• 38:15
  So how will affect the Argos?
• 38:17
  I don't know.
• 38:17
  I'm curious what you all think.
• 38:19
  Go ahead, MJ.
• 38:20
  Let me I you you wanted to talk about it.
• 38:22
  Let me go ahead.
• 38:23
  well I actually it is interesting 'cause they own every single team in Toronto.
• 38:29
  That one.
• 38:31
  Which one do they which one do they not own?
• 38:33
  They do not own the Toronto Tempo, the WNBA team.
• 38:36
  Yes, the tempo.
• 38:37
  That's right.
• 38:38
  okay, so they don't own the tempo, they own everything else.
• 38:42
  Any sport you want to go to in Toronto, except for the tempo, which five years from now they probably will own the tempo.
• 38:48
  they got announced that they bought out the shares today.
• 38:51
  They already cut a bunch of radio stations out here.
• 38:54
  in Western Canada and BC and the Flames, the Calgary Flames aren't gonna have play by play on radio anymore.
• 39:01
  Like they just are like n yeah, they're like so unless someone else picks it up, but they said no, they're cutting that So for sports, I mean like CFL doesn't exist in a bubble.
• 39:10
  Like this is a sports issue and like they're just shoving you all to streaming, right?
• 39:15
  Like there's no other options anymore.
• 39:17
  They do have to like I used to listen to the Blue Jays on the radio when I was just doing stuff and I won't be able to do that anymore either.
• 39:24
  They've 'cause they've cut that radio station too,
• 39:27
  I hadn't heard about the radio stations.
• 39:29
  and and that I hadn't heard that news today that they also shuttered a bunch of stations the conglomerates have been shuttering radio stations for ten years or thereabouts.
• 39:38
  So I'm not surprised in some ways that they're doing it again.
• 39:41
  from the Argo's point of view, in my opinion, it's better to be owned by MLSE
• 39:48
  than not.
• 39:48
  in that even if they don't care, they're not actively against you.
• 39:53
  when they didn't own uh the Argos they were actively against the Argos.
• 39:59
  So I would rather have them ignoring the Argos than being against the Argos.
• 40:04
  Um, there has been talk since they made the announcement yesterday that they are going to be do is re are spinning off some of it over the next year.
• 40:14
  So they will be bringing in some other partners over the next year.
• 40:17
  Who they are, what they are, we don't know.
• 40:19
  that may mean that Larry Tannenbaum, who owned the Argos and was the guy at MLSE that championed the Argos for the longest time, um
• 40:28
  And now is, as you we mentioned, the o the sole owner of the Toronto Tempo.
• 40:33
  he might come back into the picture from the Argos point of view, but if he does, it's not good for the Argos because as I say, I believe you're better off being ignored than being
• 40:43
  targeted.
• 40:44
  Hey Rogers, like trade Arbuckle to Hamilton.
• 40:47
  Yes.
• 40:48
  Yeah.
• 40:49
  Well I said tongue tongue planted firmly in cheek about it that, hey Rogers wants a uh an NFL team in there.
• 40:56
  Maybe they'll spend a bunch of money and start pumping up the Argo so they can say, Look, we get thirty five thousand to a CFL game, give it up an NFL team.
• 41:04
  I don't think so.
• 41:06
  It's a non zero possibility, but not much better than that.
• 41:09
  Exactly.
• 41:10
  It's yeah, exactly.
• 41:12
  Hey.
• 41:13
  Are we talk are we talking expansion right now?
• 41:16
  Because I'm telling ya, something happened in the last two days that makes expansion a whole lot more interesting.
• 41:24
  What's that?
• 41:25
  What's
• 41:26
  Mr.
• 41:26
  Carney just announced what?
• 41:28
  How many a hundred billion dollars into submarines?
• 41:32
  Where do you think that money's going?
• 41:34
  It ain't going to the flat land, it's going to Halifax.
• 41:39
  And how many jobs is that gonna bring in?
• 41:41
  And how many people is that gonna put to work in Halifax over the next years and woo yeah, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera?
• 41:49
  So start that ball rollin' again.
• 41:51
  Start that ball rollin'.
• 41:54
  two hull
• 41:55
  a pipeline at Churchill, so maybe we'll have a C FL team there too.
• 41:58
  Yeah.
• 41:59
  What the heck, yes.
• 42:00
  T two two things that remain constant in the CFL.
• 42:03
  Chaos and hope.
• 42:05
  That's right.
• 42:07
  Alright, but enough of that.
• 42:08
  We got more to talk about, so let's uh bump signings and releases this week.
• 42:13
  There wasn't really a lot notable, a few lower name special team players released and signed but the big news that came out this afternoon is the Tiger Cats opened up the
• 42:24
  checkbook and gave Keandre Smith a one year extension.
• 42:28
  that is going for twenty twenty-seven is going to be worth two hundred and seventy-two thousand five hundred dollars in hard money with an additional fifty five hundred
• 42:40
  available in all-star and award bonuses.
• 42:42
  So possibility of making just over two hundred and seventy-eight thousand next year.
• 42:47
  do you figure Keandre's worth that?
• 42:48
  And can you have two receivers of
• 42:52
  that kind of price on the team 'cause they already have Lawler.
• 42:55
  At this point he's worth it.
• 42:57
  he started last year, uh and then this year he's improved and he's better.
• 43:02
  And he's showing that he's a top Canadian receiver, top two, three Canadian receiver in the league, and that's the price range for top two, three Canadian receivers in the
• 43:13
  league.
• 43:13
  so yeah, absolutely he's worth that kind of money.
• 43:16
  I was a little only a little surprised that it was a one year extension.
• 43:19
  That it wasn't two years.
• 43:20
  To me, that says he's gonna be shopping the market and he's betting on himself that and he's betting on the TV contract showing up and the money going up even again in in 2028.
• 43:30
  And he's hoping to push 300 in 2028.
• 43:34
  it's unfortunate that
• 43:35
  they're paying on him a lot they're paying KeAndre Smith a lot of money without a quarterback to throw him the ball.
• 43:41
  that's the only downside from Hamilton's point of view.
• 43:43
  but uh yeah, for him, get the bag.
• 43:46
  Absolutely, get the bag.
• 43:47
  This was not I understand they need to release this today, but honestly this was like a pay no attention to the man with the shattered ankle behind the curtain.
• 43:55
  Look over here, look over here guys, Keandre Smith got an extension.
• 43:59
  Anyway, we're all like we're not like Ti-Cat fans were not interested in that news today.
• 44:05
  Yep.
• 44:07
  It it would have been a great announcement coming off of a thirty five ten win over Winnipeg, but not this.
• 44:16
  well.
• 44:17
  Moving on quickly.
• 44:18
  This week's World Cup report.
• 44:20
  Most of us don't care.
• 44:21
  Um, moving on to
• 44:24
  England's in!
• 44:25
  Canada's out, guys!
• 44:27
  They fought really hard against Morocco!
• 44:31
  I'm cheering for my second team now.
• 44:33
  I got my England jersey on.
• 44:35
  And the US is out, d the US is out despite Donald Trump getting a red card reversed.
• 44:41
  They still lost to Belgium.
• 44:43
  there.
• 44:43
  I actually know the score between Belgium and the and US and it and it made made my heart go pitter patter.
• 44:53
  Anyway Yes.
• 44:55
  we were gonna talk quickly too, our fantasy teams this week.
• 44:59
  I was uh one and
• 45:01
  Three going into the week, looking to bounce back, and I did.
• 45:04
  I had a hundred and thirty-two point five points this week, and that got me the top score in the league.
• 45:10
  So it didn't really matter who I played against.
• 45:12
  Now, in our little chat board I posted saying I'll take it, but I'm I feel kind of bad about it because I'm fairly sure I wouldn't have had top score if Bo hadn't been hurt.
• 45:22
  an awful lot of people had him on their teams.
• 45:25
  But
• 45:26
  Like I said, I'll take it.
• 45:27
  I was up against Safmod from Piffles and I beat him So that was kinda nice.
• 45:32
  For whatever I'll talk more about it on Thursday about sort of what I did with it.
• 45:36
  But I'm coming back.
• 45:38
  I'm now two and three.
• 45:39
  I'm fourth in the actual scoring for the league, but eighth or tenth in the standings, because I've lost three games.
• 45:47
  And next week I go up against shoots from the hip.
• 45:51
  So we'll see how that goes.
• 45:52
  How about you, MJ?
• 45:54
  Well, what a week for me to go against Ryan, who only picks Stampeders.
• 45:59
  Yes.
• 46:00
  And with the number two scorer in the league with his gimmick stuff, yes.
• 46:07
  Yes.
• 46:08
  a week for me to pick Brooks.
• 46:10
  I had two players in that Toronto Calgary game.
• 46:14
  That one Toronto receiver had 1.3 points, and Brooks had 5.2.
• 46:19
  Out of all that scoring, I anyway, I had 81.3.
• 46:24
  I lost to Ryan.
• 46:26
  It's I I'm three and two.
• 46:27
  I'm it's moving on, moving on.
• 46:29
  You know, my kid tried to make me not pick Bo and I like, Alexander's not playing, so we get to pick bow and he's like, Well, you shouldn't pick Bo and then he was right.
• 46:38
  He was right.
• 46:40
  For whatever it's worth, as much as it hurts my heart, I went with Kelly again and he was the second highest scoring quarterback in the league this week, so.
• 46:48
  Behind, of course, VA.
• 46:49
  behind VA.
• 46:50
  If you had VA's your captain, I think you would have had what, ninety-eight points or something like that?
• 46:56
  Yeah.
• 46:56
  Like I said.
• 46:57
  I I you know, looking through the stuff, I don't know that anybody took VA this week, in our league at least.
• 47:04
  yeah, other than Ryan, yeah.
• 47:05
  Yes, other than Ryan.
• 47:07
  Yes.
• 47:09
  But
• 47:09
  let's talk about the games.
• 47:11
  And this first one was what we were mentioning.
• 47:14
  Toronto went to Calgary and scored thirty six points, which is normally enough to win a game.
• 47:19
  But Calgary scored fifty eight.
• 47:23
  And as I said, I I didn't see this one.
• 47:26
  I had to listen to it on the radio.
• 47:27
  They are announcers, I have to say, it
• 47:29
  QR 770 do an excellent job.
• 47:31
  I felt like I had a pretty good grasp of what was going on, but I'm going to mostly lean on the two of you to talk about the game.
• 47:39
  I will say this, about into towards the end of the second quarter, it occurred to me that there's an old football chestnut that says you're going to win a certain amount of games
• 47:49
  no matter what you do, and you're going to lose a certain amount of games no matter what you do.
• 47:54
  This did not seem like one of those games to me.
• 47:56
  It wasn't that Calgary was going to win.
• 47:58
  It was just that from what I was hearing, they played an amazing game of football.
• 48:04
  VA put on a skills clinic from again, I'm going by what I was told.
• 48:09
  Would you all agree with that?
• 48:11
  We'll let GT go first, because I'm imagining you're happy to talk about this one.
• 48:16
  Yeah, um, okay, I just want to start off first of all about talking about the Kerry Joseph jersey on CFL Fans Fight Cancer.
• 48:23
  it is after that score worth ninety-four dollars at this point in time.
• 48:28
  And that is a Toronto Argonauts Carrie Joseph jersey.
• 48:31
  and yeah, as I said, let's hope that they, you know, for anyone that wants to purchase it, you're hoping for a low scoring game.
• 48:38
  I don't think you're gonna see that in Toronto either.
• 48:40
  I think it's gonna be
• 48:41
  Another high scoring game.
• 48:42
  I think I said last week that I thought it would be a high scoring game and Calgri would squeak it out.
• 48:47
  And Calgri would squeak it out.
• 48:49
  I didn't expect this to happen.
• 48:52
  it was but I mean, VA was unbelievable.
• 48:56
  He pointed to the sky several times, and all I could think of is he's just sitting there and he's looking up and after every play, and it's like I've been waiting for this moment
• 49:06
  for all my life.
• 49:08
  Lord, can you see it coming?
• 49:09
  It's just like everything was working for him.
• 49:13
  The rest of the team wasn't that good.
• 49:15
  The O line the O line had its moments, to me, they let a lot of pressure.
• 49:20
  the defensive line had its moments, but they let Kelly get away in a lot of cases.
• 49:26
  And Toronto kept coming back and I kept going.
• 49:30
  Guys.
• 49:31
  ke I'm so glad the VA kept his foot on the gas because there was lots of moments where Toronto could have come back and won that game just as easily.
• 49:41
  In in the last two minutes of the first half, that's where they Calgary kind of put it away.
• 49:45
  But even then Toronto kept it within nine points.
• 49:48
  So they had it down to two points at one at one point going in with a minute or two minutes left in the first half.
• 49:55
  It looked like they were back in that game.
• 49:57
  So as as strong as that game was for the Stampeders, I don't want to write off the the Argonauts.
• 50:04
  They looked pretty good, considering how amazing, absolutely amazing VA was.
• 50:12
  And his receivers were catching balls.
• 50:13
  Well, like that was crazy.
• 50:14
  There like the Tevin Jones interception tip that was right off the hands of a defender and then right into his, that was incredible.
• 50:22
  Tevin Jones is as I think I've already talked about him several times.
• 50:26
  But he is my I can't make out this guy.
• 50:29
  Cause he did several things that were absolutely astounding, like that play and then the seventy seven yard catch and run down the sideline for the late touchdown in the first
• 50:38
  half.
• 50:39
  And then he just waffles, just whiffs on pass protection that just makes me nuts.
• 50:45
  And just seems to stand around on other things where it's just like it's so obvious.
• 50:50
  So he's my guy that
• 50:53
  That is just makes me crazy.
• 50:55
  But overall, yeah, I was pretty happy.
• 50:57
  It was a really exciting game.
• 50:59
  Great way to start the week.
• 51:01
  Great way to set up the weekend in games.
• 51:04
  And uh yeah, there was just great plays from all the way around.
• 51:08
  From both sides, offense and defense, interceptions, receptions, tackles, sacks, everything.
• 51:16
  It had it all.
• 51:17
  It had it all.
• 51:18
  It was like nineteen ninety three all over again.
• 51:21
  It was great.
• 51:22
  Let let me just jump in and and say on Tevin Jones, and I don't know this for sure.
• 51:27
  This is just what the scuttle butt was when he was in Saskatchewan.
• 51:32
  So take it for for what it's worth there.
• 51:35
  I could be wrong.
• 51:35
  But the scuttle butt was his athletic talent and his ability to make plays was so incredible you just kept giving him a chance.
• 51:45
  But his ability to learn the playbook, if he
• 51:48
  actually happened to be in the right place in the field to make a block or a catch, it was more luck than than anything else.
• 51:54
  So that may explain what's going on there.
• 51:57
  His teammates seem to love him.
• 51:58
  I give him full credit.
• 52:00
  He seems to be a really popular guy in the locker room and on the field.
• 52:04
  So he's doing something right, I just as as a fan watching it, he makes me nuts.
• 52:10
  but I every time he does something like he did those two plays, I'm like, Oh, this is so good.
• 52:16
  I'm still I'm still pretty happy.
• 52:18
  We're two and two.
• 52:18
  the game was great and we're and we seem to be trending in the right direction, as they like to say.
• 52:23
  So I'm looking forward to this weekend.
• 52:27
  Was the Stampede Bowl, so we'll let MJ talk about VA and his buckle or something, I'm thinking.
• 52:31
  happy Stampede Bowl to all who celebrate.
• 52:34
  There was no way VA was gonna let anyone else out of that stadium with that.
• 52:39
  But he got the belt buckle again this year as MVP of the game.
• 52:45
  He went 20 for 25.
• 52:48
  He had six touchdowns.
• 52:49
  He had more touchdowns than incompletions.
• 52:53
  He tossed a
• 52:55
  That was amazing.
• 52:56
  his with his left hand.
• 52:57
  He's right handed, tossed it with his left hand for a touchdown pass.
• 53:01
  There was nothing he could not do.
• 53:04
  Could not do.
• 53:05
  He was gonna do everything.
• 53:08
  yeah, it was it was, you know, there's just like every once in a while, every few years there's a game like this where someone has like a performance like this and it's just such
• 53:16
  a privilege to watch.
• 53:17
  Because you never know if it's gonna happen again,
• 53:20
  sometimes a a good athlete just you know, it's cliche, but gets in the zone.
• 53:26
  And when it happens it's a a beautiful thing to watch.
• 53:30
  you know what?
• 53:31
  He had also another amazing performance at Stampede Bowl last year.
• 53:34
  So he's just built for Stamp People.
• 53:35
  Like they just built a little like celebration around him.
• 53:38
  Yeah.
• 53:41
  no.
• 53:43
  the Stampeders had a line dance celebration for their first TD Selly, so that was fun.
• 53:48
  I appreciated that.
• 53:49
  Good job, boys.
• 53:51
  what else happened?
• 53:52
  Um they ran out of fireworks.
• 53:56
  Because they scored so many touchdowns.
• 53:59
  I had to post because they had to save a few touch fireworks for the end of the game.
• 54:03
  So they had to like be like, sorry, we don't have any more fireworks.
• 54:06
  We we ran out.
• 54:08
  Cause there was like seven touchdowns.
• 54:09
  let's see, what else?
• 54:10
  Um
• 54:11
  how was Quick Six holding up by the end of the game?
• 54:14
  Okay, let me tell you, Chad Kelly is enemy number one in Calgary because he hit quick six with a football.
• 54:22
  He hit quick six!
• 54:24
  And quick six flinched but didn't bolt, but actually quick six stopped running after a while.
• 54:28
  But yeah, Chad hit quick six with a touchdown.
• 54:31
  Well, an attempted touchdown pass, so he was and they sh re-showed it many times and everyone was very upset.
• 54:38
  so
• 54:38
  Hmm.
• 54:39
  Chad.
• 54:40
  And then Chad, speaking of Chad, you you put up thirty six points and you still got pulled.
• 54:46
  Why in what universe does this happen, right?
• 54:48
  Like
• 54:49
  put up twenty eight 'cause Nick put up the other one.
• 54:51
  that's right.
• 54:52
  Sorry, after was so you're right, my bad.
• 54:54
  Why would I give him credit?
• 54:56
  You're right, twenty eight points and still got pulled,
• 54:58
  I know we like to make fun of Chad, but that wasn't his fault.
• 55:02
  He just kept coming back and then the Stampeders just ran away with it in the third and fourth quarters.
• 55:09
  that was the right decision.
• 55:10
  Uh we talked about it before.
• 55:12
  You need to give your second stream stream guy or your second team guy.
• 55:15
  So it was the right decision to get to have him sit for the last five or six minutes.
• 55:19
  So
• 55:20
  sure, for sure.
• 55:21
  I will he is is to blame for hitting the horse with his football.
• 55:25
  Um yeah, Ben Major called a penalty procedure on everyone except for the center.
• 55:33
  And I had a nice little chuckle about that.
• 55:36
  Thank you, Ben.
• 55:38
  And
• 55:39
  And you know the best thing about him is that he laughs while he does it.
• 55:42
  Like he like he he just yeah, he's so bought into it by this stage that it's just like, my god, this is me again, right?
• 55:51
  Yeah, the whole line except for the center, yeah.
• 55:54
  Right.
• 55:56
  and then okay, so during the first half there's a tight pan-in shot on Miller with his C B radio.
• 56:03
  Like, what's with the C B radio anyway?
• 56:05
  That's another story.
• 56:06
  But all of a sudden there's Lapo and Marshall?
• 56:09
  Well suddenly they're like, I think I think Milt's racing the cow.
• 56:14
  looks like the cow beat beat Milt.
• 56:15
  And I'm like, and meanwhile, they're tight in close on Miller on his CB radio.
• 56:20
  And I'm like, What what?
• 56:22
  Why?
• 56:22
  What why?
• 56:23
  Are we not showing world's fastest cow race?
• 56:25
  And someone's they'll probably do it halftime.
• 56:27
  I'm like, well why wouldn't you just do it at halftime?
• 56:29
  Why do you have to have us panned up a tight on the Argo's sideline The world's fastest cow beat Milt.
• 56:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 56:37
  I th I feel like Milt got a bit of a like a ten fifteen yard ten yard head start, but still the the the cow beat Milt and after all that trash talk, can't beat the world's
• 56:47
  fastest cow.
• 56:49
  Hmm Well that is a fast cow.
• 56:52
  it was obviously a half time thing.
• 56:54
  So I wasn't sure why you were so upset.
• 56:56
  I honestly was like, it's a half time thing because but but th those guys shouldn't have those guys shouldn't have said anything.
• 57:04
  They shouldn't have said anything.
• 57:06
  But that that was a full that was a faux pas on their part.
• 57:11
  But I did I was like, Why are you upset?
• 57:14
  It's like it's obviously what it was.
• 57:17
  Ha ha ha.
• 57:18
  Anyway, I was really looking forward to that and it got ruined.
• 57:22
  I still enjoyed it.
• 57:23
  Still enjoyed it.
• 57:24
  Um and then I'm just wondering if offsides are turning into traveling calls in the NBA, because it doesn't seem to be calling offsides very often anymore.
• 57:35
  Is it just a enhanced game flow?
• 57:39
  I tweeted whatever we call it posted on Blue Sky about about um no yards.
• 57:45
  It appears to me that there are guys within, like way within the restraining zone every time this year.
• 57:52
  It's crazy how and I don't know if it's my eyes or if it's the camera angles or if they're just letting them get away with it more often.
• 58:01
  But it appears to me that people are well within the restraining zone on a regular basis.
• 58:06
  And I'm not trying to say I saw it a against against the Stampeders, uh, in this play, but then I thought, I see it all the time on all games, all teams.
• 58:16
  And I agree with your offside comment too.
• 58:17
  It's the same thing.
• 58:18
  It looks like they're just like they've loosened it up.
• 58:21
  They just want to go, yeah, let the game flow go.
• 58:23
  Don't call these these kind of calls.
• 58:26
  So yeah.
• 58:27
  that's why the penalties are down this year.
• 58:30
  I don't know personally I hadn't noticed sort of either of those things.
• 58:33
  I mean, receivers on the waggle look like they're off side ninety percent of the time, but that's always been.
• 58:40
  You know, that that goes back to Ray Elgard.
• 58:43
  what I've seen is when there's when there are people on the line jumping, it generally gets called and then there was
• 58:49
  I can't even remember.
• 58:50
  It might have been the Ottawa game this week where they got called because their their wide receiver lined up a yard ahead of the football d right from the starting.
• 58:58
  Anyway, have we celebrated the excellence of the Stampeders enough?
• 59:02
  Anything else before we jump on?
• 59:04
  to finish, rude of you TSN to cut away and go to a million FIFA s football highlights when there was a Stampede Bowl presentation that I didn't get to watch and had to watch later
• 59:15
  on social media.
• 59:16
  Okay.
• 59:17
  Again, unfortunately I did not see it, so well.
• 59:23
  Yeah, well but overall, I did not see any of it.
• 59:25
  I had to trust to the the wonder the the w the wonderful pictures that that that were painted by the QR770 groups.
• 59:36
  Anyway, so going from that, which sounds like even though it was disappointing for Toronto, it does sound like they were in it and
• 59:45
  Kell Kelly at least played well.
• 59:47
  We go on to a game that was was not great.
• 59:50
  Saskatchewan went into Ottawa and they won 27-22, but frankly, it was the worst offensive performance I've seen from Saskatchewan in a meaningful game in two or three years.
• 1:00:02
  their big two receivers so far, Emily and Schaefer Baker, had a bad case of the drops.
• 1:00:07
  They dropped
• 1:00:08
  five or six between them.
• 1:00:10
  luckily Johnson stepped up.
• 1:00:12
  But it started out with Trevor Harris, who doesn't throw a lot of interceptions getting picked off on the first series after the one of the D Bs, I can't remember who, jumped a
• 1:00:21
  quick curl route and batted it up in the air, and then AJ Allen just made a absolutely incredible athletic play to snag it off the turf.
• 1:00:30
  that led to a Ottawa touchdown to start the scoring.
• 1:00:35
  That was probably the highlight for Ottawa.
• 1:00:37
  It didn't get a lot better in my mind if Saskatchewan had been playing any team but Ottawa on that night, they would have lost that game.
• 1:00:44
  It was you know, they did some good their defense did some good stuff at the end.
• 1:00:49
  They um it got a little bit close and when Ottawa tried to to run on a two point conversion, they stuffed Bell out of the end zone, and then they Ottawa with
• 1:00:59
  Probably what was it?
• 1:01:00
  I think it was under three minutes to go, had the ball down on the Saskatchewan sixteen, third and one, and Jaxson Ford came in and made a fantastic play stuffing the quarterback
• 1:01:11
  for no gain at all.
• 1:01:13
  And then they put in Tommy Stevens and between him and Connolly they ran out of the game basically, which was impressive teams are gonna have to work out how to stop that if
• 1:01:22
  Saskatchewan's got a lead late.
• 1:01:24
  But I didn't think it was a great game.
• 1:01:26
  What d what were y'all's opinions of it?
• 1:01:28
  yeah, no, that was a bad game to watch.
• 1:01:30
  it Ottawa is a bad football team that can't get out of their own way.
• 1:01:34
  They they should have won that game.
• 1:01:37
  and they deserve to lose the game.
• 1:01:38
  because they had it down to the sixteen and that play as good as a play as Jaxon Ford made on that drive to stop that third and one.
• 1:01:47
  There's no way you should have stopped.
• 1:01:49
  I mean, you're driving at that stage you've got to make that.
• 1:01:53
  their offensive line, I've been saying this for a long time.
• 1:01:56
  Their offensive line for all the great players they seem to have on that line just doesn't seem to have the cojones to go out and push people around.
• 1:02:05
  They're just not dogs for want of a better word.
• 1:02:09
  they
• 1:02:09
  Don't push people around and they get pushed around.
• 1:02:12
  And so yeah, I think that's still one of the biggest problems in Ottawa that they haven't fixed and they need to fix.
• 1:02:19
  and then that whole thing with the punter on the side on that return, that was just brutal.
• 1:02:24
  That was just brutal.
• 1:02:26
  Saskatchewan looked flat two weeks in a row.
• 1:02:29
  I was shocked at how flat they looked.
• 1:02:31
  and it was maybe it was a trap game, but even at some point in time I kept waiting for them to wake up and take full advantage of it, and they just didn't.
• 1:02:40
  Ottawa was full value for the loss.
• 1:02:42
  Again, full value for the loss.
• 1:02:46
  I actually thought this was a winnable game for the Red Blocks.
• 1:02:49
  They were up they were up ten nothing.
• 1:02:52
  They were up ten nothing to off turnovers.
• 1:02:55
  Right?
• 1:02:55
  Like and then like
• 1:02:57
  Every sing it feel I felt like every second play there was an injured red block.
• 1:03:02
  constant like they felt like I thought at one point I was like are they gonna recruit people from the stands to come and play?
• 1:03:09
  Are they gonna have to because there were so many players injured, like Pimbleton was injured, Niles Morgan, like there was just so many every single play, every single play.
• 1:03:18
  the punter, uh Getman, he apologized for his poor tackling skills.
• 1:03:24
  he be out there like those old monks from the from the thousand years ago with the chains on his back.
• 1:03:30
  That's what he should be doing.
• 1:03:32
  That was dope.
• 1:03:33
  they said that if he plays like that again, he's cut.
• 1:03:35
  So I was like, I think you could be cut anyway, because there's a global punter kicking around somewhere.
• 1:03:41
  I just know it.
• 1:03:45
  there was like a okay.
• 1:03:47
  One of the redback players took a punt off the face.
• 1:03:50
  Like, cause he tried to watch the way he took it off the face.
• 1:03:52
  Like, that is special teams the key and then you have Getman who can't even like
• 1:03:57
  Shove somebody who's almost out of bounds out of bounds, like you just pretended.
• 1:04:02
  Yeah.
• 1:04:04
  Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  You just needed to like lean your shoulder a little bit.
• 1:04:08
  And then meanwhile, your teammates taking punts off the face.
• 1:04:11
  And then um where?
• 1:04:13
  Where?
• 1:04:14
  Okay, I am always under the impression that short yardage is a pretty automatic thing to do.
• 1:04:19
  And you should have it down and it should not be difficult.
• 1:04:23
  And this year I have learned that short yardage is apparently extremely difficult to do because the red blacks cannot do it.
• 1:04:31
  They are it's the most horrendous short yardage I've I've seen in I was like, maybe it's harder than I thought.
• 1:04:37
  Maybe other teams are just really working at this and
• 1:04:41
  They just cannot figure it out.
• 1:04:43
  I don't know.
• 1:04:44
  It was dumb.
• 1:04:45
  winnable game, Ryan is mad, players being lazy, other players playing hard, players injured.
• 1:04:52
  Like sad, sad red black story.
• 1:04:56
  Well, I know I've heard before that Cody Fajardo, if you want, will give you like a forty five minute, hour long talk on how to play short yardage quarterback.
• 1:05:04
  So there's a lot more to it than you'd think and that's the thing is a team has to work on it and build themselves a package that works I don't know if they don't practice it in
• 1:05:12
  Ottawa or what, but they've been fumbling yeah.
• 1:05:15
  Barnes it fumbled and I'm like the ha it's just a fandoff from the s how can this happen?
• 1:05:22
  And that's happened with different quarterbacks running that package.
• 1:05:25
  It's just not good.
• 1:05:28
  I don't know.
• 1:05:28
  It's it's not good.
• 1:05:30
  Like what's happening?
• 1:05:32
  It's And like you said, a lot of people injured, most of them not permanently, but the one that to me is a big loss is Bennett Williams at halfback.
• 1:05:41
  Who yes, he went down non contact and they've said Achilles since then, and he was playing really well.
• 1:05:48
  Saskatchewan had lost Lecture to injury, so they brought in Sexton, I think it was, who'd been in training camp with them.
• 1:05:54
  They brought him back and he got around the corner and tight ropped tight.
• 1:05:58
  The talk old man talk.
• 1:06:00
  Tight rope down the sidelines very nicely and as you said, the punter sort of stood and waved at him as he went by in the end that was the difference in the game too.
• 1:06:09
  I was okay with the Saskatchewan defense.
• 1:06:11
  Their offense did not play great at all.
• 1:06:14
  And even on defense, both sides only got one sack, so there were pressures there, but it it the defense doesn't explain the score in that game.
• 1:06:22
  Inepth offense on both sides it explains the score.
• 1:06:25
  That game was so ugly and so boring and so bad that you had Dusty and Luke Wilson joking throughout the game, just trying to fill time.
• 1:06:39
  It was like a 40-point lead in a basketball game where Jack Armstrong is making stuff up to try to fill the time.
• 1:06:46
  That's what it was.
• 1:06:48
  It was they were telling stories during the game rather than reporting on the play because there was nothing to talk about that was worth talking about on the field.
• 1:06:58
  considering Thursday night to Friday night, it was polar opposites of the two types of games.
• 1:07:04
  Thursday night was this is everything we love about the league and Friday night was this is everything we dislike about the league.
• 1:07:10
  wish with all my heart that Dusty and Luke had been doing Stampede Bowl.
• 1:07:16
  They would have been so excellent at Stampede Bowl.
• 1:07:18
  That would've been just like perfect
• 1:07:20
  But apparently Luke doesn't travel west, so we'll see.
• 1:07:24
  Yeah.
• 1:07:25
  the other story out of this game was after it was over, Dinwiddie let loose on another one of his rants and talked about how his team has low football IQ and too many penalties,
• 1:07:37
  although they took I think they took f yeah yeah I think they took
• 1:07:43
  four or five penalties for under fifty yards and he complained about the penalties and just basically shredded the team in front of the media again.
• 1:07:53
  And I do not see how he thinks that helps.
• 1:07:59
  there this frustrates me because there are a lot of people on that team playing really well.
• 1:08:02
  There are.
• 1:08:04
  There are a lot of people on that team like just lights out and they could have won this game.
• 1:08:09
  There's a few pieces they're missing up like about which we've talked about, but it's not like it's not a complete disastrous like
• 1:08:18
  like burn it to the ground team.
• 1:08:20
  then he doubled down this week saying about the punter that that if he does that again he'll be gone.
• 1:08:26
  And he actually said, We hand but we've handled that well for now.
• 1:08:30
  We played the tape in front of the entire team and let everybody comment on it.
• 1:08:35
  So yeah, that's gonna motivate a guy.
• 1:08:37
  Yeah, shame, you know, just
• 1:08:40
  Here, let's mock and belittle you.
• 1:08:42
  that'll really, really give you the encouragement to go on ahead.
• 1:08:45
  I do not get the coaching style at all.
• 1:08:47
  It seems like he's frustrated and he doesn't know what to do.
• 1:08:50
  just me, but if you're talking football IQ and you sit there and you're going, Eh, Browner Maier Browner Maier?
• 1:08:58
  Maier the football IQ problem may start at the top of the chain.
• 1:09:03
  Well, and then there was the comments about the calls where, he called out the refereeing on saying, that an elbow doesn't matter if you touch down with your elbow.
• 1:09:13
  there's no difference between an elbow and a hand.
• 1:09:15
  There's a huge difference between an elbow and a hand.
• 1:09:17
  the play where the Saskatchewan guy went out of bounds and then came back into the play.
• 1:09:23
  I immediately thought he can't do that.
• 1:09:25
  he went out of bounds.
• 1:09:25
  He can't come back in the play.
• 1:09:27
  But it it's clearly stated in the rule books, as they said on the broadcast, that as long as you reestablish yourself, you're allowed to get back in the play.
• 1:09:35
  And he clearly did that as well.
• 1:09:37
  So there was no problem there.
• 1:09:39
  For him to say that kind of stuff, again, that's football IQ.
• 1:09:43
  So don't be blaming your players.
• 1:09:46
  He's a little off the rails, huh?
• 1:09:48
  he's on he's yeah, he might have bitten off more than he could chew.
• 1:09:52
  It might all turn around.
• 1:09:54
  It's not like we thought they would have a great start to the season anyway.
• 1:09:57
  But last year
• 1:09:58
  have a leg up with Hamilton going out with Bo going out, so
• 1:10:03
  they're they're digging a hole quick.
• 1:10:05
  to God, I don't know because I think I think Hamilton still has better talent and better coaching.
• 1:10:12
  So so we'll see.
• 1:10:13
  but like uh I compare it more I compare Ottawa this year to Edmonton last year.
• 1:10:19
  And because they were in the same position where they were coming off for disastrous seasons, they signed a whole new regime
• 1:10:26
  And they signed a whole bunch of new players with a lot of money.
• 1:10:30
  And that and they both started out poorly.
• 1:10:33
  But you didn't see Edmonton coaching staff losing it.
• 1:10:37
  And you didn't see Edmonton coaching staff do anything but positive reinforcement and say, We're gonna get there, we're gonna get there, we're gonna get there.
• 1:10:46
  And they got there.
• 1:10:47
  You can't that's what you have to do when you're in this situation.
• 1:10:50
  You can't just four games into a season that you knew was gonna be
• 1:10:55
  a learning experience for everyone.
• 1:10:57
  Throw everyone under the bus.
• 1:10:59
  That's what the weird part is.
• 1:11:01
  like I don't get it.
• 1:11:02
  I just don't get it.
• 1:11:04
  Yeah.
• 1:11:05
  I'm gonna move on.
• 1:11:06
  We're gonna talk about the game that I was at.
• 1:11:08
  So I don't have notes for this one, it's just sort of the memory stuff, but there was some some very good things that uh that happened when Edmonton came into BC here in Kelowna and
• 1:11:19
  BC walked out with a thirty six twenty four win.
• 1:11:23
  It was actually a very good game.
• 1:11:25
  It seemed closer than the score was being there.
• 1:11:28
  And I've got a couple observations I'm gonna talk about maybe a little bit later in a different segment, but but it was it was certainly entertaining, fun to watch.
• 1:11:37
  BC obviously had decided that Rankin was not gonna to beat them.
• 1:11:42
  And BC's the one thing their defense has done well so far this season is they've been good against the run.
• 1:11:48
  And they any time that they tried to get Rankin outside at all, there was two or three people on top of him within tackling distance.
• 1:11:58
  Didn't happen so much when they passed to him.
• 1:11:59
  He did get a hundred yards but they were set up and that's what it took for them to win basically.
• 1:12:05
  Edmonton got more yards than BC did, but BC was more productive with their chances.
• 1:12:10
  And frankly they neither team was protecting the ball well.
• 1:12:14
  Cody threw three interceptions.
• 1:12:16
  Nathan threw two.
• 1:12:18
  So I'm glad BC got their their win, but I'm not sure that it's all that great a sign for them.
• 1:12:25
  What do you think, MJ?
• 1:12:27
  Well, Cody had fifty-one pass attempts this game, and that is not acceptable.
• 1:12:32
  He actually went thirty-four for fifty-one.
• 1:12:34
  It was actually pretty terrible.
• 1:12:36
  it looked like and like you know how we thought BC was having too much fun in Kelowna?
• 1:12:39
  It kinda looked like the Elks were having too much fun in Kelowna before that game.
• 1:12:43
  They looked pretty flat coming out.
• 1:12:46
  Julian Grant was open quite a bit because they were had they were double teaming ranking and I don't think the Elks like they he did get how many touchdowns did he get two?
• 1:12:55
  I think they could have targeted him more because he was cle he was always open.
• 1:13:01
  Anytime they had to pass to him there was nobody around him.
• 1:13:04
  Austin M
• 1:13:07
  Is it Austin Mac?
• 1:13:08
  Is that his name?
• 1:13:08
  What's his first name?
• 1:13:09
  Anyway, Mac had a Yes.
• 1:13:10
  boy.
• 1:13:11
  Mac had a really nice bounce back game.
• 1:13:13
  You know, he's one of those guys too where you're like, oh yeah, that's why they signed him.
• 1:13:17
  Hopefully that continues because sometimes he dips down, but hopefully that stays on great.
• 1:13:22
  and then
• 1:13:23
  The wind well how is the wind there?
• 1:13:25
  Because did you Blanchard bent it like Beckham on a field goal that looked like it was gonna go way wide and it curved right back in and through.
• 1:13:35
  I was like this is the kick of the year.
• 1:13:37
  Kick of the year look at this thing.
• 1:13:39
  Yeah.
• 1:13:41
  there was a wind, but it wasn't as bad as it looked on T V.
• 1:13:45
  And in fact, to tell you the truth, I was awfully thankful for the wind 'cause it was hot.
• 1:13:50
  I think that the temperature was probably only like twenty eight, twenty nine, but it was full sun, no cloud, just beaming down and yeah, the wind was what made it tolerable.
• 1:14:00
  But yeah, I don't know.
• 1:14:01
  Like th these two teams kinda like they I mean, it was nice to see the B C defense playing better.
• 1:14:07
  They definitely had a much better game plan going in.
• 1:14:09
  I think Benavinius was probably on his like last like legs, like packing up his office if you don't get this done today.
• 1:14:16
  And then they are said their special teams, they're doing it by committee.
• 1:14:19
  And it actually was improved comparatively to the week before.
• 1:14:23
  So each coach took a little piece of special teams and was running it for themselves.
• 1:14:29
  They said they're gonna be starting to like look for a special teams coordinator going forward here in the next few weeks, but for now it seemed to be okay.
• 1:14:37
  Um, the Elks, yeah.
• 1:14:39
  F they did not look like a three and team coming in.
• 1:14:42
  They looked very beatable.
• 1:14:43
  Um, Rankin like I mean, he did have a hundred yards receiving so but like rushing was uh they had that shut down.
• 1:14:51
  the only thing I will say is that for this uh the score is closer than the game indicated.
• 1:14:56
  it never felt like BC was not in control.
• 1:15:01
  And yet there were every time they seemed to go ahead and take control again, they would allow Edmonton to get right back in it.
• 1:15:10
  And I was like, come on.
• 1:15:12
  Like their special teams again would allow it.
• 1:15:14
  a a big run back and and so on.
• 1:15:17
  And it would just be like set up Cody for another thank goodness for the for the interceptions and stuff.
• 1:15:21
  Otherwise Edmonton could have won that game very easily Edmonton I think got exposed a bit.
• 1:15:28
  I think Edmonton got exposed a bit.
• 1:15:30
  That's more the team that I expected out of Edmonton than the first three games.
• 1:15:36
  be quite honest.
• 1:15:37
  Um they're a good team, they're a very good team, but they're not that unbeatable a thing that the first three games they look like.
• 1:15:46
  Yeah.
• 1:15:47
  Or or at least they they won the first three games.
• 1:15:50
  So
• 1:15:50
  yeah.
• 1:15:51
  Well, and it's interesting you say that it didn't seem close to you because for me, there live, it felt like B C was had the lead but wasn't outplaying Edmonton overall.
• 1:16:03
  I didn't feel secure until in the B C victory until fairly late in the game because probably what you were saying, they just weren't able to salt it away.
• 1:16:13
  the one other thing I got a kick out of, Sean White is such an accurate kicker.
• 1:16:17
  I don't know if he whiffed on the b on the convert or if it got tipped or what.
• 1:16:22
  It was hard to tell at the game, but there was one that he came up the convert was so short, it ended up rolling to the goalpost and yet it rolled right to the center of the
• 1:16:32
  goal post.
• 1:16:32
  Even though there was no distance on it, it was right down the center, so
• 1:16:36
  That was a a fun little bit.
• 1:16:38
  Anyway.
• 1:16:38
  I must have missed it on television or yeah.
• 1:16:41
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:43
  but I didn't see the convert.
• 1:16:47
  He went three for four on field goal.
• 1:16:49
  But you know what?
• 1:16:50
  Interesting you say this because there's been a few converts missed by several different kickers across the league this year.
• 1:16:56
  the other thing that I noticed both in this game and in others too that they've still got the returners back there when the field goal is good, catching the ball at the back end
• 1:17:06
  line and then flipping it to the official, which means nothing.
• 1:17:10
  But don't do stuff that's gonna make you make a mistake in a game.
• 1:17:14
  if it's a little bit wide and now you slide over three feet and catch it.
• 1:17:20
  Now you gotta get it out of the end zone, whereas if you just let it go, you get the ball back on the 40.
• 1:17:24
  So I'd be telling my returners, unless it's something that looks like a real returnable kick, even if it's a good field goal, don't catch it.
• 1:17:32
  Don't go near it.
• 1:17:34
  Get used to letting it go by you.
• 1:17:36
  That's me.
• 1:17:37
  Anywho.
• 1:17:39
  my I wanted to do my Andre Prue.
• 1:17:41
  he was refing that game and he's the best.
• 1:17:44
  He's I love this man.
• 1:17:46
  He was like he was making a call against BC and in the middle of it people were booing, so he just stopped.
• 1:17:52
  And he just waited until people like stopped booing and then he continued on with his call.
• 1:17:57
  And it's like he's like such a like a school teacher.
• 1:17:59
  well I'll just wait till you're all quiet before I continue.
• 1:18:02
  I love it.
• 1:18:04
  and then we had the the bad game of the week.
• 1:18:07
  Not bad necessarily because of any effort, but just because of how it turned out.
• 1:18:11
  Winnip Well Yeah, well.
• 1:18:15
  Winnipeg fourteen and Hamilton thirteen.
• 1:18:18
  And there we yeah, it wasn't great.
• 1:18:19
  I mean Zack threw an interception on his first throw.
• 1:18:22
  And even before Bo went down
• 1:18:25
  Hamilton's offense wasn't wasn't clicking as well as they have in the past.
• 1:18:31
  They kicked a field goal from the three-yard line.
• 1:18:35
  Yeah, that was a weird decision.
• 1:18:35
  That was a weird disposition.
• 1:18:38
  but but really after Zach went down in the in the first half, they put Elgrisman in and he didn't look terrible, but he was not looking like they were going to win the game with
• 1:18:48
  with him in there.
• 1:18:49
  Frankly, I think the reason they won the game was not just because of Bo's injury, but when Bo was injured, they had to take him off in an ambulance.
• 1:18:59
  They couldn't start the game until
• 1:19:01
  A new ambulance got there, so they were prepared if anyone else got hurt, so there was about a ten minute, fifteen minute delay, and you could tell Hamilton was shook by what
• 1:19:10
  had happened with their quarterback.
• 1:19:12
  And the very first play after the stoppage ended, they do a basically a jet sweep to Wilson that gets around the end and goes in for about a thirty yard touchdown.
• 1:19:22
  And that was the only really good offensive play Winnipeg had all game until
• 1:19:29
  The final drive when they were down by two points.
• 1:19:31
  And somewhere out of the back of his mind, Tommy Condell remembered, wait, I have a running back.
• 1:19:38
  And ran Brady for six, seven, eight plays to get them into well into field goal range and won the game.
• 1:19:45
  But he had a half a game with a rookie quarterback in there
• 1:19:49
  I think there was one series he ran Brady two or three times for a couple of first downs, and other than that it it just it wasn't there.
• 1:19:55
  Okay, well, you know what?
• 1:19:56
  Hamilton did the same thing because Brown Tree had nine carries the whole game.
• 1:20:00
  Hamilton defense, you were not injured.
• 1:20:03
  You were not injured.
• 1:20:05
  There was sloppy tackling.
• 1:20:07
  It was sloppy tackling, and then you know they're running Brady.
• 1:20:11
  you know they do.
• 1:20:12
  And this was supposed to be no Winton McManus' big game back.
• 1:20:16
  defense, Hamilton defense, and then they just like let Brady march down the whole field.
• 1:20:21
  And terrible effort.
• 1:20:23
  Terrible, terrible effort.
• 1:20:25
  I expected them to play better for Bo.
• 1:20:27
  Honestly.
• 1:20:28
  We talked about what happened with the offense.
• 1:20:29
  That's that's awesome.
• 1:20:31
  that's an that's coaching on but Kenny Lawler had a catch he should have caught from Trey Ford.
• 1:20:37
  He launched it.
• 1:20:38
  Kenny catches those for Bo.
• 1:20:39
  He did not catch it for Ford.
• 1:20:41
  I don't know what happened.
• 1:20:42
  Doesn't matter.
• 1:20:44
  Did not catch it.
• 1:20:45
  The defense, there's no excuse.
• 1:20:46
  There is no excuse for how they played that second half.
• 1:20:49
  That was just that was embarrassing.
• 1:20:51
  I was embarrassed to watch it.
• 1:20:53
  Yeah.
• 1:20:54
  Well they Kenny had two catches in the end zone that both would have taken a lot of talent to get the touchdown out of it.
• 1:21:01
  And the first time it worked, even though they called it incomplete and it was only after review that they said yes he was actually in bounds.
• 1:21:08
  And then the second one they if I remember right, was ruled a touchdown and then the review showed no it wasn't.
• 1:21:14
  The ball was moving underneath them.
• 1:21:15
  But yeah, there there was some hope in that throw from from Trey to to Kenny, but
• 1:21:21
  Like I said, algorithma to me he coped.
• 1:21:23
  He didn't do anything stupid enough to lose them the game.
• 1:21:27
  Trey didn't cope.
• 1:21:28
  He was bad to terrible and Dalagala was worse.
• 1:21:32
  So
• 1:21:33
  like Tommy Condell out outcoached Jared whatever his name is Braid or whatever he's new this year and he got promoted to OC.
• 1:21:41
  He he got outcoached.
• 1:21:43
  Plain and simple, end of.
• 1:21:45
  Yeah.
• 1:21:46
  we always talk about those Winnipeg halftime adjustments.
• 1:21:49
  Well, they made them again.
• 1:21:50
  We have a rookie quarterback.
• 1:21:52
  We're not doing anything.
• 1:21:53
  He's not throwing the ball, even though he's got the big arm.
• 1:21:56
  Yeah, I think he threw one ball down the field and that's it.
• 1:21:59
  Everything else was this game is gonna be a slug fest.
• 1:22:02
  They obviously don't have a quarterback either, Bo, on the other hand, was like he was already
• 1:22:09
  two hundred and fifty uh yards go early when he got injured early in the third quarter.
• 1:22:13
  He was on target for another four hundred plus yard game.
• 1:22:16
  I mean, it's as you can talk about Hamilton's offense not being there, it he would have put it together.
• 1:22:23
  I mean, they that game, you know, would have been out of hand once Zach got injured if Bo had a stayed in the game.
• 1:22:30
  Instead, yeah, I think coaching made the difference.
• 1:22:32
  I agree with you, MJ.
• 1:22:33
  They got out coached.
• 1:22:34
  in that they did not give their quarterbacks the ability to win the game for them.
• 1:22:39
  They didn't coach their quarterbacks and utilize their quarterbacks properly.
• 1:22:43
  So
• 1:22:44
  See I I wouldn't be praising Condell too much though, 'cause like I said, I think they could have Winnipeg could have had a the the lead earlier and if they just utilized Brady.
• 1:22:53
  But he didn't.
• 1:22:54
  Um Yeah.
• 1:22:58
  Yeah.
• 1:22:58
  Yeah.
• 1:22:59
  Yeah.
• 1:23:00
  he did marginally better.
• 1:23:02
  Marginally better.
• 1:23:04
  Hamilton was moving the ball and getting yards, but they weren't scoring as the way that we've seen with them.
• 1:23:09
  The other two things that I think were worth mentioning in the game was to me the Winnipeg receivers were just blocking like crap.
• 1:23:17
  They didn't seem to be interested in making a block and a lot of their play calling depends on that.
• 1:23:24
  Their bubble screens and some of their sweeps and they just didn't seem interested.
• 1:23:29
  And I gotta say he took two PI penalties, but I thought their new corner, Major Williams, played a hell of a game.
• 1:23:36
  He ended up getting that interception late and he also he was covering Lawler mostly and did an exceptional job on it.
• 1:23:44
  My opinion.
• 1:23:45
  Okay, let's g let's just hop off of this one because it's a traumatic experience for MJ and we don't want any more triggers.
• 1:23:51
  let's get to power rankings.
• 1:23:54
  Have you got some for SGT?
• 1:23:56
  I do.
• 1:23:57
  Um so this week I'm calling you know, this week was the salad bowl.
• 1:24:01
  We just tossed everything out the window and everything into the big mix and it is now week five and we're into the point where things are starting to crystallize and then all
• 1:24:12
  of a sudden no that's not working and it's just a big mess.
• 1:24:16
  So I tossed it all around and these are the results.
• 1:24:19
  I have I'm not, you know, I'm not I am standing by them only so much as I am speaking them.
• 1:24:26
  So believe it or not, I still have Saskatchewan at number one.
• 1:24:31
  Because be because they won, as badly as they played, they still won.
• 1:24:37
  So I still have them at number one.
• 1:24:39
  Edmonton, I have at number two because as badly as they played, they lost.
• 1:24:44
  So I have them at number two still.
• 1:24:46
  Montreal, by virtue of not playing, remained at number three.
• 1:24:52
  Then I have Calgary because they look pretty good and that defense is coming around and the offense has played well over the four games.
• 1:25:01
  They just I've only won two of them, but they've played well, so I have them at number four.
• 1:25:05
  I have Toronto at number five because as I said, uh Toronto still looks pretty good.
• 1:25:11
  They lost, but they still look pretty good.
• 1:25:13
  I have BC after Toronto because there's some promise there, if nothing else.
• 1:25:19
  There's some promise there.
• 1:25:21
  I have Winnipeg at next, but Winnipeg that could shift all the way around if Zach is back this week, that will probably change their fortunes.
• 1:25:31
  then I have Hamilton and then I have Ottawa.
• 1:25:34
  so that's how I have them as of this week.
• 1:25:37
  Uh so there you go.
• 1:25:38
  again, a little bit shocking.
• 1:25:40
  I will say even as a rider fan after the last couple of weeks I wouldn't have had them above probably three at the best, maybe four.
• 1:25:49
  But
• 1:25:49
  then then you know what?
• 1:25:51
  And I and I kept thinking that too, and that's where I said it's a salad bowl because I didn't know like when logistic or logically there's a reason to move every team
• 1:26:01
  everywhere.
• 1:26:02
  Um Edmonton, yeah, they look really good in the first three games.
• 1:26:05
  They looked really bad this week in my opinion.
• 1:26:08
  And I think that exposed them.
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  So are they that good?
• 1:26:11
  No, I don't think so.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  but you know they have all the ingredients, so they're probably better than they looked this week.
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  And then like if Montreal had a played, they might have been the number one team, but they didn't play, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:26:26
  It's just it's it's a weird week and I think things settle down again next week, but that's where they are this
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  I agree with that.
• 1:26:33
  I mean to Saskatchewan's credit, they just lost the chemistry, the connection between Emilus and Harris as well as Schaefer Baker and Harris.
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  And I don't know if they're if they're maybe hurt more than maybe they should have been h holding them out for the game or whatever.
• 1:26:47
  But when that went wrong they turned around and went to Johnson and he ended up what was it, something like ten catches for over a hundred yards
• 1:26:53
  I'm not panicking at all yet, but but there there's some there are some other teams that at this point look a little better than that than the riders to me.
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  Go ahead.
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  Yeah.
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  are still winning, so you still gotta give the do.
• 1:27:10
  Okay, well thank you for that.
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  And uh again, we'd love to hear you from all of you in the comments.
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  What do you think?
• 1:27:16
  And like like I've said before, if you're if you're happy with our rankings, they're the CFL outsiders power rankings.
• 1:27:24
  If you're upset with them, they're the GT Barnum power rankings.
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  Normally I I get here to the injury reports, but I did wanna just throw in one other comment here at this point, 'cause it kind of
• 1:27:35
  applies to picking the games this week.
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  And I know that the media's job is to hype us up and make us think it's a competitive league bad teams are better than they are.
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  But I really get bothered by the fact that we've got people out there talking so much about well look at Jake Mayer.
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  He's coming along.
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  He's really coming along and and and he's getting cl these games are getting close and and there's real hope in Ottawa.
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  Well
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  Two weeks ago he was playing against Montreal team that had two backup cornerbacks in and he made passes against some of them.
• 1:28:12
  Yeah, that's good.
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  Last week against Saskatchewan, the defense held Saskatchewan to twenty seven points.
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  You should be able to win a game that way.
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  And he got seven points off of a short field on an interception.
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  And then they blocked a punt and he couldn't even get it in for a touchdown, so he got three points, and that was the bulk of their scoring.
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  within the first ten minutes of the game.
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  So don't don't tell me
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  yeah, and he disappeared for the second and third quarters again.
• 1:28:41
  And it was only in the fourth quarter that they looked like they had any offense again.
• 1:28:45
  Yeah.
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  So don't tell me there's hope for Ottawa with Maier in there because I don't see it.
• 1:28:50
  Likewise with BC, they came back and beat Edmonton.
• 1:28:52
  They had a great game plan.
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  Yes, they did.
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  But BC's problem on defense has been their back end.
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  Edmonton is a running team.
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  BC has been good at stopping the run in their games.
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  They haven't given it up.
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  So they hit the perfect team to play against.
• 1:29:08
  Cody Fajardo is a good quarterback that'll do a lot, but he's not the guy who's gonna pick apart
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  a weak defensive backfield the way everybody else has been.
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  So everyone's saying, well, at least look, the BC defense is coming back.
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  What a great game plan.
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  They I think three down nation gave Benavides the coach of the week.
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  No, he fell into a spot where his talent and scheme h uh scheme happened to work.
• 1:29:29
  Yes, they did.
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  And and then on top of that, they're talking about the fact well, and BC hasn't been able to run the ball, but they've worked through that because look, Butler went for so many
• 1:29:40
  yards.
• 1:29:40
  Why wasn't Dave Dickinson coach of the week after Herb Stampede Bowl?
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  Fifty eight points.
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  It's okay.
• 1:29:47
  Three Gan also put, Tyler Algorisma saves like bombers and wins for bombers, and I was like, did he?
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  Did he?
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  So yeah, no, don't do that.
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  And then but but like I said, so now yeah, Butler's too many yards, the BC running game back is way Yeah, 'cause Edmonton had a raw rookie at weekside linebacker who got
• 1:30:06
  exploited all game.
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  So don't expect BC to do that again.
• 1:30:10
  Don't expect Ottawa to do this again.
• 1:30:12
  Don't buy into this hype that these teams are oh, you know, look, they won a game, or they came close to winning a game, it's turning around.
• 1:30:19
  Pay attention to what's actually h yeah, but but but look at something other than the friggin' statistics in a game.
• 1:30:28
  The fact that a team gives up a hundred yards in a game can have a lot to do with what's going on with the score and everything else.
• 1:30:34
  Don't oh drives me crazy.
• 1:30:36
  There's my old man Rant.
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  I'm so glad it's not just me that goes off on this though.
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  Here I'm I'm sitting here being the calm one.
• 1:30:48
  Yeah, you're very calm today.
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  The two of us are like, that's it.
• 1:30:53
  Well hey, that's how a good team works.
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  When one person goes one way, you know, we got balance here.
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  We got good balance in our offense here.
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  We need whoever needs to step up can.
• 1:31:03
  Okay, we're we're getting close to two hours, so let's let's get through to our predictions.
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  First I'll tell you the the injury reports, not a lot to report because we're back to the four games a week, so we only see the first bit.
• 1:31:15
  The the first one, Ottawa at Edmonton, they've already said who's available questionable or out for sure.
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  And three names on it that are out aren't names that necessarily are gonna stand out towards you.
• 1:31:27
  Hutter, Petaway, and Bordicu Bordecu I I'm having trouble with that name anyway.
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  Backups that you wouldn't think so much of except Hutter is the backup safety, and the other two are the backup safety.
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  Mac linebackers behind Niles Morgan who is back in but got dinged up last week.
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  So that could be significant.
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  on the Ottawa side there on the defense, they're down to some questionable situations at least.
• 1:31:54
  And then Keelan White is questionable.
• 1:31:56
  as far as Edmonton went, Mechie is out, and that's basically the only other games, teams that have practiced.
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  Toronto and Winnipeg.
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  Toronto judge was uh did not participate the first practice.
• 1:32:07
  Winnipeg did not practice today for some reason.
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  They're waiting till tomorrow, so no report there.
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  Calgary and Montreal Yes, must have been.
• 1:32:15
  Calgary, the only one out is Grant, the D B again is did not or not necessarily out, but did not participate, so it doesn't look good.
• 1:32:24
  For Montreal, Ento, the corner that was out last week.
• 1:32:27
  was again did not participate.
• 1:32:29
  And Lawrence, Spieker and David Delaire were all limited.
• 1:32:33
  So I don't know if I can't remember if Delaire's been out for a while.
• 1:32:36
  Lawrence and Speaker have been maybe there's close to coming back.
• 1:32:38
  And the good news for Montreal is that Burns was back practicing full on the other corner.
• 1:32:45
  So that looks good.
• 1:32:46
  And then the other two the last game Hamilton at Saskatchewan, there's no reporting 'cause they don't start practicing till next week because of the Sunday game or till next
• 1:32:54
  Till tomorrow.
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  Talk.
• 1:32:55
  Thill tomorrow because of the Sunday game.
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  Who goes first?
• 1:33:00
  I will, I guess.
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  I I still think Edmonton's a better team and they're at home.
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  I'm going to go with Edmonton on this.
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  GT
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  By a large margin.
• 1:33:14
  Okay.
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  And MJ.
• 1:33:17
  I am looking forward to Ryan's rant after the game about who messed up this time.
• 1:33:22
  That wasn't his fault.
• 1:33:24
  Yes.
• 1:33:25
  Yeah, he even took some swipes at Maier which was anyway.
• 1:33:29
  Toronto at Winnipeg.
• 1:33:31
  We don't know if Zach is playing.
• 1:33:33
  We don't know what's going on with the quarterback situation.
• 1:33:36
  We don't know if anybody else was hurt because they haven't practiced yet.
• 1:33:41
  let's see, we'll let um what do we got left here?
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  So yeah, we'll let you go, GT.
• 1:33:47
  You go foist.
• 1:33:49
  I'm taking Toronto.
• 1:33:51
  I'm taking Toronto only because I don't know
• 1:33:53
  I don't know who's gonna stop this offense at this point.
• 1:33:56
  I just don't know who's gonna stop this offense.
• 1:33:58
  Calgary didn't stop this offense.
• 1:34:00
  They just out offenced them.
• 1:34:02
  So I don't know I can't see Winnipeg even with Zach back being able to do that.
• 1:34:07
  I don't know how I just don't know who's gonna stop this offense.
• 1:34:11
  So I'm taking Toronto.
• 1:34:12
  MJ?
• 1:34:14
  it pains me to say this, but I'm also taking Toronto.
• 1:34:18
  I I just I don't even know if Zack's playing, if it's Elgersma they're in trouble and yeah, they they're just I don't think they're going to be able to outgun Kelly.
• 1:34:30
  I'm with you both on it.
• 1:34:32
  Right now it feels like you've got to score over forty points to beat Toronto.
• 1:34:36
  And
• 1:34:37
  s throw four interceptions, but he'll probably throw five touchdowns.
• 1:34:41
  exactly.
• 1:34:41
  we're gonna let you go first again, GT, 'cause Calgary here.
• 1:34:43
  Calgary at Montreal.
• 1:34:45
  Okay, um tougher choice than I than I think I'm hmm I'm gonna take Calgary again.
• 1:34:54
  as I said last week, I think it's gonna be a close game, but this one I think it's gonna be a low scoring game.
• 1:35:00
  I just have a feeling this is gonna be a slug fest, but a low scoring slug fest.
• 1:35:05
  So like in that twenty seven, twenty two kind of range.
• 1:35:10
  Yeah.
• 1:35:11
  Okay, well I'll go next and to me again, yeah, I agree with you.
• 1:35:16
  This is a tough one to call, but I'm there's basically having to d make a decision one way or the other.
• 1:35:23
  Montreal is at home, they're not traveling, which helps.
• 1:35:26
  And while Saskatchew or Saskatchewan, talk again.
• 1:35:31
  I'm my tongue won't work tonight.
• 1:35:34
  While Calgary had a fantastic game last week and will probably have a very good game this week, expecting them to duplicate last week's effort is it's just not realistic.
• 1:35:46
  That was was a a once in a career almost game for for VA.
• 1:35:50
  So I I don't know I don't expect it to be a yeah, a blowout, but I would put it in score somewhere in the mid to upper twenties to thirty something, and I think
• 1:36:03
  uh Montreal will probably win by maybe a field goal.
• 1:36:07
  How about you, MJ?
• 1:36:09
  I know there's somebody in your house who would definitely go with Montreal, but how much do you get influenced by that?
• 1:36:14
  Well, you know, it's a lot of pressure when I have to wear Alouettes gear when I don't pick them and they win.
• 1:36:19
  Yeah.
• 1:36:20
  Well, and it must be a little pressure to have to answer to not picking them.
• 1:36:24
  Yeah.
• 1:36:25
  but I think he would agree that Calgary is a formidable opponent this week.
• 1:36:31
  can VA duplicate that against Montreal coming off the bye.
• 1:36:36
  I wonder what V uh Alexander's foot is doing.
• 1:36:43
  Interesting.
• 1:36:44
  That and plus it looks like Ento may not be in, so there may be at least one backup corner in for VA to
• 1:36:50
  I'm gonna risk it and pick Calgary.
• 1:36:52
  Okay.
• 1:36:54
  Oh, I should say here, by the way, because I've done some subtle jabs at y'all when there's been a couple of times that we've gone the two of you against me and I've turned
• 1:37:03
  out right.
• 1:37:04
  So since I took the jabs, I should also take the humble pie here and mention that last week I picked Toronto and you both picked Calgary, so well done for both of you.
• 1:37:14
  And maybe I should learn a and change over to Calgary, but no, I'm I'm sticking with Montreal.
• 1:37:20
  Bull, you will know better.
• 1:37:22
  Yes.
• 1:37:22
  Okay.
• 1:37:23
  And then the toughest decision of the week.
• 1:37:25
  The one that's going to be probably the closest game at all.
• 1:37:30
  Hamilton going into Saskatchewan.
• 1:37:32
  Starting Fort de Gala.
• 1:37:34
  And MJ, you get to go foist.
• 1:37:36
  I have no faith that Jared Baines will properly scheme for Trey Ford or Jake Dolagala.
• 1:37:43
  No faith whatsoever.
• 1:37:45
  I hope their defense plays better, but I don't know.
• 1:37:49
  What a mess.
• 1:37:49
  you know what, if if they had a different coaching staff, I would say they could maybe figure this out, but they don't, so they can't.
• 1:37:57
  Riders for you.
• 1:37:58
  How about you, GT?
• 1:37:59
  Every year there's a game in Regina that's Saskatchewan.
• 1:38:07
  It absolutely could win and somehow they just
• 1:38:12
  Mess the bed.
• 1:38:14
  Every year they do this.
• 1:38:17
  This is the perfect game for that to happen, where they have absolutely no reason to lose and somehow they lose.
• 1:38:27
  But that ain't happening this week.
• 1:38:29
  Not a chance.
• 1:38:34
  But not a chance.
• 1:38:36
  No, this is Saskatchewan all the way.
• 1:38:38
  They're they've got to at some point be mad at themselves for the way they've played in the last two weeks.
• 1:38:43
  They've got to be, you know, at home and they've got an opponent that's in disarray at this point in time.
• 1:38:51
  so yeah, there's if they lose this game.
• 1:38:55
  They really need to be doing some the the yeah, yeah.
• 1:38:59
  There's gotta be some soul searching in in Regina if they lose this game.
• 1:39:04
  Yes.
• 1:39:06
  Yes.
• 1:39:07
  Yes indeed.
• 1:39:08
  He's he He did he's done it to them.
• 1:39:14
  Yeah.
• 1:39:14
  letting him off the leash, right?
• 1:39:16
  You know what, but I was thinking, just to like quickly summarize, remember Arbuckle played not great last year?
• 1:39:22
  And then once they finally let Nick Arbuckle like play how he wanted to play, they he went on a tear?
• 1:39:27
  If only they would just like let quarterbacks play to their strengths.
• 1:39:32
  It's a lesson.
• 1:39:33
  remember MBT's only good game was in Regina last year.
• 1:39:37
  so like there's these weird things happen, but I don't see it this way.
• 1:39:42
  Yeah, that was another one where where he was going he was Yes, yes.
• 1:39:47
  There w there we go, yes.
• 1:39:48
  And again, this is where I talk about the don't rem don't just look at the stats.
• 1:39:52
  That game in Saskatchewan was with half of a defensive backfield.
• 1:39:55
  So, you know, there were reas reasons for it.
• 1:39:58
  And I would counter to you I do not disagree with you that every year Saskatchewan does one of those games.
• 1:40:04
  But we've had our quota 'cause it was two weeks ago against Toronto.
• 1:40:07
  Yeah, but but that but that was Toronto's home game, so it doesn't count.
• 1:40:13
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:40:15
  I guess so.
• 1:40:16
  Hamilton defense I see as middle of the pack.
• 1:40:20
  They they do a lot of good stuff.
• 1:40:22
  They take the ball aw they can take the ball away a lot.
• 1:40:24
  They do some good stuff, but they've also a lot of their stats are dependent on the fact that Bo hasn't
• 1:40:31
  been just throwing he throws deep balls, but he's also been controlling the time of play and giving them a lot of rest I think that if they have to try and go against the
• 1:40:42
  Saskatchewan offense, which will figure out whatever's going on there, whether they h hold out one or two of the receivers and give them a game off for this.
• 1:40:50
  And the defense will not give Hamilton a lot of long drives.
• 1:40:55
  Because even that game you mentioned when Edmonton came into town
• 1:40:59
  Yes, Trey Ford was great, but he had both Rankin and Leake that scored long touchdowns in that game, and it was him pressing the edges, making the the the line expand and opening
• 1:41:10
  holes in the middle.
• 1:41:11
  And Roundtree looks like a pretty good running back, but he doesn't have the speed to exploit it the way they did.
• 1:41:16
  So no, it's I could be wrong on this one, but I think this should be a Saskatchewan victory by at least a touchdown, maybe ten points.
• 1:41:25
  And which means of course that just like uh in in my fantasy here this week, I'm against the shots from the hip podcast is last place in scoring in the league and I was first
• 1:41:38
  place this week, which I said to myself, Well there's I can see myself being blown out 'cause I'm very much a Rider's fan in that.
• 1:41:45
  My traditions are the same.
• 1:41:47
  Okay, I think we gotta close down here.
• 1:41:50
  Time to say goodbye and get off for the night.
• 1:41:53
  MJ, closing thoughts.
• 1:41:54
  yeah, look for me at the Hamilton Tiger Catch training facility where I am trying out for QB number one.
• 1:42:02
  yeah, run an Instagram, post it on Bluesky and Sports and Plants and see me suited up for the game on Sunday.
• 1:42:09
  All right, you got the jersey already.
• 1:42:14
  GT
• 1:42:16
  All right, everybody, you can find me where required and when required at GT Barnum on bootsky dot net dot social, whatever it's called, from there.
• 1:42:24
  And other than that, my usual nonsense here each week.
• 1:42:27
  So we'll look forward to it next week and look forward to the games this weekend.
• 1:42:30
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• 1:42:31
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• 1:42:37
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• 1:42:45
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• 1:42:47
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• 1:42:54
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• 1:42:57
  subscribing and all that because we're already getting late and people are we're almost falling asleep so I hate to think what we're doing to you.
• 1:43:04
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