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Steve Price | 7 August · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Why this kiss Deeve Price, good.
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Speaker 2: Evening, Welcome to the show. Great to have you with
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Speaker 2: us on this Friday night. It seems the new premiere
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Speaker 2: of Victoria, Ben Carroll, has finally realized just saying you're
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Speaker 2: not Daniel Andrews will not be enough to save the
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Speaker 2: Labor Party from an electoral disaster come November. He is
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Speaker 2: giving interviews to just about anyone who asks, unlike his
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Speaker 2: predecessor Jacinda Allen, who really spoke to no one. He
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Speaker 2: even pledged in a rather unusual comment today to The
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Speaker 2: Australian's Anthony Galloway that there would be no more backroom
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Speaker 2: deals done in hotels on his watch. More on that
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Speaker 2: shortly coming up on Steve Price program tonight. A warning
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Speaker 2: from the Australian Medical Association that the federal government's urgent
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Speaker 2: care clinics are not I repeat, not helping fix the
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Speaker 2: problem of emergency department overcrowding. We'll get the latest from
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Speaker 2: the AMA shortly. One Nation this week unveiled part of
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Speaker 2: its Upper House team for the state election in Victoria
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Speaker 2: and announced Warren Pickering as their Victorian leader. He joined
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Speaker 2: us on the program as well, and still on Victorian
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Speaker 2: politics Critics of the government make the point that he
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Speaker 2: handcuffs on the local corruption watchdog IBACK are not fit
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Speaker 2: for purpose and don't even compare with interstate corruption bodies
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Speaker 2: like New South Wales IKAC and similar bodies in Queensland.
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Speaker 2: Friday regular and former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman will join
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Speaker 2: us plus Mark Knight will be with us as he
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Speaker 2: is each couple of weeks. But first up tonight, what
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Speaker 2: is it about Daniel Andrews, the three time election winning
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Speaker 2: former premier of Victoria that so upsets the people of
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Speaker 2: that state. This week, Andrews was out crowing about the
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Speaker 2: findings of an eight year inquiry by Victoria's corruption watchdog IBACK.
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Speaker 2: Now the inquiry had interviewed Andrews in camera in secret
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Speaker 2: over his involvement in a deal done behind the back
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Speaker 2: of the relevant Minister Jan Garrett. It involved the union
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Speaker 2: boss of the firefighters, the union boss Peter Marshall, and
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Speaker 2: a Andrews Minister Gavin Jennings that saw the Rural Fighting
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Speaker 2: Service the CFA, folded into Marshall's United Firefighters Union and
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Speaker 2: a pay deal was done. Minister Garrett, by the way,
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Speaker 2: quit after she was sidelined by Andrews and tragically Joan
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Speaker 2: Garrett died from cancer. The Iback Inquiry and Peter Kredlin
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Speaker 2: have done a lot of work on this story. It
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Speaker 2: was called Operation Richmond Now. Its report was released on
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Speaker 2: Tuesday and Daniel Andrews and Marshall were cleared of all corruption,
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Speaker 2: but still heavily criticized. The findings have again sparked debate
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Speaker 2: about the construction of a statue of the former Premier
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Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews, to be made in bronze, with work apparently
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Speaker 2: already underway. If completed, the cost is north of one
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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty four thousand dollars. Now, that's not a
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Speaker 2: king's ransom, but for many still a stupid including me,
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Speaker 2: wasted money. Now Shadow Treasurer and Victorian Federal Victorian Liberal
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Speaker 2: MP Tim Wilson. He was asked about this crazy, dumb
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Speaker 2: statue idea on Breakfast TV today.
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Speaker 3: You know, I don't think Dan Andrews should want this statue, frankly,
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Speaker 3: because I think the serious risk of becoming a public
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Speaker 3: urinal if he directed. Today we have Ben Carroll, the
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Speaker 3: new Premier, out there saying that he's cutting back on
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Speaker 3: major public projects because the.
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Speaker 4: State can't afford it. The first minor.
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Speaker 3: Public project that should be cut should be Dan Andrews' statue,
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Speaker 3: because that does not sit on any hierarchy of a
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Speaker 3: single Victorian and their priorities.
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Speaker 5: A lot of chatter about this in Victoria today.
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Speaker 2: Our Victorian state political reporter Georgie Dickinson, Well, she took
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Speaker 2: to the streets to get an opinion from the public
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Speaker 2: on Dan's statue.
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Speaker 6: Thirty four thousand dollars Is it a good use of
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Speaker 6: taxpayer money?
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Speaker 7: Is it that much?
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Speaker 3: Oh?
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Speaker 8: No, okay, no, definitely not.
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Speaker 6: Specifically one hundred and thirty four thousand dollars is being
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Speaker 6: spent on a statue of former Premier Daniel Andrews.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say no to that one.
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Speaker 2: And I think he's had enough spend on him, don't you,
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Speaker 2: Jem Barrison, that they're going to build something for him?
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Speaker 7: Never what do you think it should be used on?
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Speaker 4: Homes? Yeah, it's a lot more important things than Dan Andrews.
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Speaker 2: I even went down today to look at the existing
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Speaker 2: Bronze premiers that include Sir Henry Bolty John Kayne Jr.
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Speaker 2: The statues were one of the dumber ideas that was
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Speaker 2: had by the former Premier Jeff Kennett. Now, if you
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Speaker 2: hold that office for three thousand days, this was the
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Speaker 2: Kennett idea as premier, you get a statue. But Tim
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Speaker 2: Wilson's probably right when he talked about the defacing of
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Speaker 2: any Dan Andrews statue. Now I'm not condoning that for
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Speaker 2: one moment, but the public would not be able to resist.
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Speaker 2: Now the new Premier, Ben Carroll has not commented one
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Speaker 2: way or another. Well, he said I'm not about building statues,
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Speaker 2: but he's not common in. I meant in one way
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Speaker 2: or another as far as I can work out whether
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Speaker 2: the statue should be cast, if it's already underway, how
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Speaker 2: much has been spent, and will it be placed outside
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Speaker 2: his office? But he would be wise, in my opinion,
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Speaker 2: to dump it. Now he needs to toughen his language
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Speaker 2: when reflecting on some of the things his two predecessors
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Speaker 2: did over the nearly twelve years they were in power.
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Speaker 2: After the Operation Richmond Report was released, the toughest language
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Speaker 2: that he could think of in regard to the backroom
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Speaker 2: deals done by Andrews and Marshall was that it was
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Speaker 2: quote intolerable and poor. I mean, seriously, that's as tough
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Speaker 2: as you're going to get and on the money, Pitt.
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Speaker 2: That is the suburban rail loop. He has said his government,
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Speaker 2: due for an election in four months time, has gone
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Speaker 2: from the big build to the big reset whatever that means.
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Speaker 2: Does it mean ripping up contracts? He said he won't
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Speaker 2: do that. I mean two giant boring machines are due
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Speaker 2: to start their job boring those tunnels before the November election,
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Speaker 2: supposedly to allow the former premier to Cinder Allen to
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Speaker 2: stick on a hard hat, gather up some nodding heads
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Speaker 2: and say, see, I told you we'd build this sink.
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Speaker 2: What this all probably means is that Melbourne will have
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Speaker 2: an underground train running from a place called Chelton of
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Speaker 2: a place.
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Speaker 4: Called box Hill.
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Speaker 5: And that's it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Carroll sensibly would prefer to build a train
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Speaker 2: line at the airport, which Melbourne desperately needs, and that
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Speaker 2: should have been the priority all along. Just finally, on
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Speaker 2: that stupid statue, a Herald sun pole today had seventy
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Speaker 2: four percent of Melbournian's seventy four percent saying it was
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Speaker 2: a waste of money and should not go ahead. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I want to turn my attention out to a story
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Speaker 2: that emerged this week. Now doctors warning that victorious and
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Speaker 2: this is a federal program, taxpayer funded urgent care clinics
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Speaker 2: sold to us by governments as a solution to emergency
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Speaker 2: department over routing, are doing little to ease pressure on
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Speaker 2: the hospitals while at the same time undermining local GP practices.
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Speaker 2: There are now thirty eight urgent care clinics across Victorian
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Speaker 2: many more right across the nation. Many of them opened
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three to provide bulk BILLD treatment for
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Speaker 2: urgent but non life threatening illnesses and injuries, and with
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Speaker 2: the promise that they keep people out of the emergency department.
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Speaker 2: Sounds like a good idea, but is it working. Daniel McMullen,
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Speaker 2: as the president of the Australian Medical Association, joins me. Now,
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Speaker 2: doctor McMullen, the federal government says these clinics are taking
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Speaker 2: pressure off the emergency departments, but the frontline emergency doctor
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Speaker 2: so well, it's making almost no difference.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right, Stephen, it is.
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Speaker 8: You know, the data would show that while we are
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Speaker 8: seeing a small drop in the lower urgency emergency department presentations,
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Speaker 8: they aren't what was clogging up our emergency departments to
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Speaker 8: start with, and leaving them in logjam. In fact, we've
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Speaker 8: seen right around the country, including in Victoria, an increase
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Speaker 8: in the overall demand for emergency. So while the minor
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Speaker 8: stuff might be going elsewhere, overall, we're still seeing more
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Speaker 8: people go to emergency, and they're sicker, there's more complex illness.
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Speaker 8: It's harder for them to move through the hospital system.
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Speaker 8: That's what's causing our hospital logjam and where our attention
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Speaker 8: really needs to be focused.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, just on that, I presume that
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Speaker 2: the cost of private health insurance is not helping either.
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Speaker 2: And the federal government, in its wisdom, has decided that
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Speaker 2: anyone over the age of sixty five who was getting
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Speaker 2: a discount on their private health rebate their insurance are
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Speaker 2: now no longer going to get that rebate, and so
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Speaker 2: that's going to cause a lot more people Danielleoe presumed
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Speaker 2: to drop out of private health insurance.
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Speaker 8: It's certainly the cost of premiums is rising, and a
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Speaker 8: number of strands across all age groups are questioning that
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Speaker 8: value for money. In times of type, you know, people
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Speaker 8: are making difficult decisions about health care, food on the table,
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Speaker 8: fuel in the car. It is difficult out there, and
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Speaker 8: I think insurers could lift their game to be offering
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Speaker 8: more of that value for money. It remains to be
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Speaker 8: seen how much how big the change is from that
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Speaker 8: change to the rebate for over sixty fives, but particularly
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Speaker 8: for pensioners on a fixed income. We are worried that
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Speaker 8: it will lead to a dropping cover and potentially have
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Speaker 8: a flow on effect to our hospitals that are already
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Speaker 8: said blocked up. We've seen in some other states politicians
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Speaker 8: telling people not to go to emergency because unless it's
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Speaker 8: a real emergency because of the flu season, and.
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Speaker 7: Yet winter comes year after year.
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Speaker 8: We shouldn't be surprised by these things, and we really
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Speaker 8: do need longer term solutions to help our hospitals and
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Speaker 8: our health systems stay on track.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope the federal government rethinks that that age
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Speaker 2: care change. I would think it'll be a wise thing
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Speaker 2: to do. Give me some sense of how crowded our
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Speaker 2: major emergency department waiting rooms get. Our are any states
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Speaker 2: better or worse than others.
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Speaker 7: Right around the country.
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Speaker 8: They're under pressure, and our doctors and nurses and administrative
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Speaker 8: staff are doing everything they can and will see. I mean,
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Speaker 8: if you're critically unwell and you need to be seen
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Speaker 8: in an emergency do go. You will get the care
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Speaker 8: that you need. But they're often noisy, crowded environments. Our
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Speaker 8: staff are being worked to the bone. People are often
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Speaker 8: spending hours or days in emergency departments because the hospital
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Speaker 8: is full. And this just shows that we really need
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Speaker 8: investments in general practice to keep people out of hospital,
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Speaker 8: better in infrastructure in our hospitals to keep them flowing smoothly,
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Speaker 8: and investments in home and aged care so that people,
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Speaker 8: once they're well enough, can be discharged home with the
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Speaker 8: supports they need.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the funding of general practice. Obviously, you're
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Speaker 2: the head of the AMA. Is general practice being funded
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Speaker 2: correctly and with enough funding, and it would would not
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Speaker 2: be better rather than building more of these urgent care centers,
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Speaker 2: to plow the money into general practice.
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Speaker 8: That is an excellent point and one we've been making
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Speaker 8: for many years. We think the structure underlying Medicare in
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Speaker 8: general practice is out of date. It's built for a
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Speaker 8: time forty years ago when you had a simple health problem. Now,
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Speaker 8: with the growing burden of chronic disease, mental health issues,
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Speaker 8: complex illness, we really need a change in the rebate
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Speaker 8: structures so that no matter how long you need to
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Speaker 8: spend with your GP, you get a fair rebate back
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Speaker 8: in your pocket. At the moment, if you need to
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Speaker 8: be spending any more than about ten minutes with the GP,
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Speaker 8: your rebate value really drops off, and that's where we're
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Speaker 8: seeing those rising costs.
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Speaker 5: Doctor.
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Speaker 2: The government does make a lot of noise about how
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Speaker 2: the level of bulk billing has increased, is that a fact.
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Speaker 7: After change is made.
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Speaker 8: In the last year or so, we have seen an
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Speaker 8: increase in the bulk billing rate. There's been a significant
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Speaker 8: incentive put in place to try and support more bulk billing.
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Speaker 8: We've particularly seen that picked up in out of metropolitan areas.
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Speaker 8: Some of the clinics that used to be bulk billing
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Speaker 8: and weren't any more have gone back to it. But
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Speaker 8: how sustainable that change is really remains to be seen.
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Speaker 8: And there's still that time pressure and so you know,
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Speaker 8: some patients are saying that those and doctors saying those
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Speaker 8: consultations need to be quicker.
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Speaker 7: It's harder to do multiple.
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Speaker 8: Things in one visit, and so in the long term,
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Speaker 8: we think a better investment would be in improving that
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Speaker 8: comprehensive care, funding for longer consultations, more nurses and allied
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Speaker 8: health in our practices so we can really prevent that
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Speaker 8: severe illness that then at the moment is winding up
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Speaker 8: an emergency.
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Speaker 2: Just before we go. How stretched are we in regional Australia.
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Speaker 2: How hard is it for isolated regional towns to get
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Speaker 2: a doctor.
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Speaker 8: Anything that viewers in the city think tough waiting times
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Speaker 8: and hard to get access, it.
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Speaker 7: Is amplified many fold in rural areas.
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Speaker 8: Really challenging to get workforce, not just doctors, but our
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Speaker 8: nursing and allied health staff and the infrastructure. So we
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Speaker 8: do need to keep really plugging away at getting more
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Speaker 8: doctors trained. We know that getting students from the bush,
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Speaker 8: training them in the bush, they're more likely to stay
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Speaker 8: out there, and that's why we're pushing for things like
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Speaker 8: extension of the PRACK payments to medical students to encourage
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Speaker 8: more regional students and more training out in rural areas
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Speaker 8: so that we can keep doctors out there. It is
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Speaker 8: a fantastic lifestyle, but we really need to be boosting
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Speaker 8: our workforce supply.
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Speaker 2: Great to catch up. Daniel McMullan, thank you very much
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Speaker 2: for joining us.
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Speaker 5: Tonight. That's the boss of the AMA.
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Speaker 2: Okay, We's that been another big week for One Nation,
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Speaker 2: particularly in Victoria.
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Speaker 5: This week we had the launch.
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Speaker 2: Of One Nation's Upper House candidates and we saw Pauline
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Speaker 2: Hanson unveil the team that she hopes, I guess is
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Speaker 2: going to make a big dent in the polling for
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Speaker 2: the Victorian election, which is during the twenty eighth of November,
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Speaker 2: so it's just about four months away. A couple of
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Speaker 2: familiar faces in the launch Colleen Harken you've seen Colleen
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Speaker 2: here on News twenty four before. She was until recently
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Speaker 2: a senior Victorian Liberal. And Mark Nicholson, who's a regular
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Speaker 2: on Chris Kenny's program here on News twenty four. He's
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Speaker 2: the brains behind that hugely successful One Nation cartoon. Please explain.
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Speaker 2: He's a ripper bloke as well. He's going to now
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Speaker 2: become a politician. But standing right next to Senator Hanson,
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Speaker 2: her newly appointed Victorian Party leader and President Warren Pickering,
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Speaker 2: who if you don't know and I read the description
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Speaker 2: of what Warren's done in the past, He's not like
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Speaker 2: one of these people who was just a political advisor
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Speaker 2: and then ended up being a politician. He's been a
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Speaker 2: brick layer, he was a soldier, he worked in the
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Speaker 2: coal industry and he actually could his job during COVID
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Speaker 2: nineteen on. Please say, Warren Pickering joins me. Now, how's
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Speaker 2: your first week in charge officially been.
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Speaker 9: It's been fantastic. Thanks for having me, Steven, and good
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Speaker 9: evening to your audience. Look, it has been fantastic. The
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Speaker 9: feedback has been phenomenal, not only from within the membership
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Speaker 9: but more broadly from the state.
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Speaker 1: So it's been really good.
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Speaker 2: So you're going to lead the party into that November
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Speaker 2: twenty eight election. And obviously I'm based in Victoria, so
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Speaker 2: I've had to live through the majority of the last
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Speaker 2: ten twelve years of the labor government. I've got a
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Speaker 2: place that's near a crime ridden main street. There's people
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Speaker 2: there who are drug affected, homeless all over the joint.
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Speaker 2: What can one nation do if you do get numbers
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Speaker 2: in the state House that you can work with, what
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Speaker 2: can you do to things like a crime crisis?
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Speaker 9: A crime crisis? I think we need to take the
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Speaker 9: traditional approach. There needs to be repercussions for crimes in
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Speaker 9: this state. You know, we've gone soft and we've seen
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Speaker 9: bleeding heart judges and their tagging release programs. There's no
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Speaker 9: longer consequences for any of those actions, and now we're
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Speaker 9: saying escalate. Obviously, I think there's numerous other areas which
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Speaker 9: we can identify and apply pressure to make serious changes
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Speaker 9: in that.
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Speaker 1: Space, and they can be cost effective as well.
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Speaker 9: It literally comes down to making sure people are accountable
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Speaker 9: for their actions.
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Speaker 5: What are you going to do about the state debt?
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's crippling.
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Speaker 2: The amount of interest that we pay on a weekly
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Speaker 2: basis as Victorians is just criminal. And the people who've
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Speaker 2: put us into that debt, two of them, two of
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Speaker 2: the main offenders, Daniel Andrews and Jacindra Allen, are now
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Speaker 2: walked away. They'll both be on lifetime pensions. What can
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Speaker 2: you do to help Victorians in a state where laborers
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Speaker 2: sent us broke much of it with money on corrupt
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Speaker 2: big bill projects.
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Speaker 9: Weren't I don't think Victorians are asking for too much.
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Speaker 9: Successive labor governments have broken the social contract and they're
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Speaker 9: failing in all measurable metrics across the state.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 1: I think we need to lean back into the market.
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Speaker 9: Economics that made us the most prosperous state in the nation.
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Speaker 9: In the first place, you know, we need to abolish
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Speaker 9: this next zero garbage that'll save US two hundred billion
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Speaker 9: dollars a year in taxpayer subsidies. We need to look
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Speaker 9: at farms and small to medium businesses, help them to
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Speaker 9: increase increase cash flow, and make Victoria in an attractive
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Speaker 9: place to invest once again. The best way to do
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Speaker 9: that in the short term is to abolish some of
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Speaker 9: these crippling taxes that have decimated the small to medium
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Speaker 9: business sector. So you know, payroll tax, land tax, buyer services, leverge,
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Speaker 9: get rid of the lot of it, and allow the
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Speaker 9: free market to do what it does. Government needs to
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Speaker 9: get out of its own way in this space, and
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Speaker 9: I think that will that will put us in the
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Speaker 9: right on the right trajectory to start paying down some
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Speaker 9: of that debt, not in the short term, but maybe
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Speaker 9: in the next few years.
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Speaker 2: Speaking about farmers, I mean, we've got this ridiculous situation
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Speaker 2: where the Labor Party passed laws that farmers can't deny
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Speaker 2: access to their own private properties to put in transmission
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Speaker 2: lines for this green dream that we are experiencing. Will
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Speaker 2: you would you be arguing to appeal that to change
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Speaker 2: that law and allow farmers to say to someone you're
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Speaker 2: not coming through my gate mate.
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Speaker 9: We intend to be staunch advocates for the regions as
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Speaker 9: the One Nation party. That has always been so day
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Speaker 9: one week one is to restore a farmer's rights to
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Speaker 9: refuse entry. Absolutely. Number two is to restore the community
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Speaker 9: actual meaningful community consultation processes surrounding all of these types
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Speaker 9: of projects. We need to We've got an inherent responsibility
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Speaker 9: here because thirty percent of Australia's domestic produce, food and
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Speaker 9: fiber is still produced here in Victoria. I think not
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Speaker 9: many people are aware of that fact. So we have
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Speaker 9: an inherent responsibility to ensure that our regional areas remain
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Speaker 9: for purpose and utilized for primary food production.
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Speaker 2: We saw in the event that was held in Hawthorne
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Speaker 2: during the week that there was a bunch of protesters
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Speaker 2: out the front, you know, calling Pauline Hanson and anybody
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Speaker 2: from One Nation labeling you race and fascist. Are you
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Speaker 2: getting enough protection from the police And you expect these
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Speaker 2: protests to disrupt the election campaign where One Nation is
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Speaker 2: standing in seats.
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Speaker 9: That's that's continually something that we need to address on
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Speaker 9: a day to day basis. Not only around campaign times,
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Speaker 9: but any events we have. It's pretty disheartening to see
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Speaker 9: when you leaving what's supposedly a democratic nation. We can't
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Speaker 9: even book venues without the other side of politics jumping
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Speaker 9: on and leaving bad giggle reviews and things like that.
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Speaker 1: We had at the last federal elect.
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Speaker 9: Of one of our older candidates was pushed to the
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Speaker 9: ground and broke his shoulders. So, look, it is a concern,
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Speaker 9: and I've had it on pretty good authority from a
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Speaker 9: few people that early this year at the Marxism Marx's
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Speaker 9: conference in Melbourne that they've actually encouraged a lot of
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Speaker 9: their support network to engage in militant style behavior against Conservatives.
19:54
Speaker 9: So it is an absolute concern and it will continue
19:56
Speaker 9: to be a concern.
19:57
Speaker 1: So we just managed it as we goes.
19:59
Speaker 2: Finally, just finally, Warrent, I mean, I was a little
20:03
Speaker 2: bemused today where Pauline Hanson's copped it for using One
20:06
Speaker 2: Nation party funds rather than their own funds to pay
20:10
Speaker 2: for some accommodation in her trip to the UK. I
20:14
Speaker 2: would have thought people would have been making more of
20:16
Speaker 2: a noise if she'd used taxpayers money. Like Chris Bowen,
20:21
Speaker 2: who spent one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars on a
20:24
Speaker 2: seven day.
20:25
Speaker 5: Trip to New York.
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Speaker 2: I mean, at least Pauline's using one nation money and
20:28
Speaker 2: not taxpayers money to fly around the world.
20:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
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Speaker 9: I think it's a story about nothing. You know, this
20:38
Speaker 9: party obviously attracts a certain level of scrutiny. That's just
20:42
Speaker 9: it's not reasonable Comparatively, most of our membership and supporters
20:47
Speaker 9: and donors, they understand that that money would be utilized
20:50
Speaker 9: to develop the party and its messaging. And if our
20:53
Speaker 9: fearless national leader chooses to go to another country and
20:58
Speaker 9: propel her message further, are engaged with other conservatives around
21:03
Speaker 9: the planet and encourage them to show her on ways
21:08
Speaker 9: that we can implement it, implement legislation that they're intending
21:12
Speaker 9: to implement in their countries, then that's her prerogative.
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Speaker 1: I just think they should apply that.
21:17
Speaker 9: The media should apply the same level of scrutiny to,
21:20
Speaker 9: like you say, Chris Bowen, but specifically around the COP
21:23
Speaker 9: thirty one conference the tax payers are expected to pay for.
21:26
Speaker 9: Surely that's a bigger story.
21:30
Speaker 2: Indeed, Daniel Andrews's statue yes or no, look, a lot.
21:37
Speaker 9: Of people that argue with me, but I think politicians
21:41
Speaker 9: are necessary evil. However, I'm totally against immortalizing them in statues.
21:46
Speaker 9: And then we've got this other nonsense of the ongoing expense,
21:49
Speaker 9: because we know it's just not an initial outlay. There's
21:52
Speaker 9: thing's going to be faced on a weekly basis and
21:54
Speaker 9: it's going to be an online, ongoing expense for Victorians.
21:58
Speaker 1: So I'm a hard no.
22:01
Speaker 2: Good on you, Warren, Thank you, thank you for catching
22:03
Speaker 2: up with us tonight. Warren Pickering. There the new state
22:05
Speaker 2: leader for One Nation in Victoria. Now, just quickly, before
22:08
Speaker 2: I get to the break, I want to mention the
22:09
Speaker 2: outcome of a bail hearing in Melbourne. We're talking there
22:12
Speaker 2: about law and order. Four youths were charged over a
22:15
Speaker 2: violent attack which has led to the death of a
22:18
Speaker 2: much loved Sunshine shopkeeper. They are now, believe it or not,
22:23
Speaker 2: back walking on Melbourne streets after being granted bail. Two
22:26
Speaker 2: boys age listen to the ages here, twelve and thirteen,
22:29
Speaker 2: were freed on bail earlier in the week. Two others
22:32
Speaker 2: to fourteen year old girls were granted bail in the
22:36
Speaker 2: children's court today and a fifteen year old boy the
22:39
Speaker 2: only one of the five accused to be charged with manslaughter,
22:42
Speaker 2: he remains on remand you have to ask the question,
22:46
Speaker 2: when are Victorians We're crying out for a government to
22:50
Speaker 2: fix its justice system. What are you going to do
22:53
Speaker 2: to fix up people being bailed?
22:55
Speaker 5: Willy nilly all.
22:57
Speaker 2: Right, after the break, more on the Richmond Report and
23:00
Speaker 2: those findings on Daniel Andrews eight years and the making
23:02
Speaker 2: plus the housing black hole. Labor is dreaming if it
23:06
Speaker 2: thinks it's tax changes are helping young people get into houses.
23:09
Speaker 5: That's next.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Price with you on this Friday night.
23:16
Speaker 2: We'll cross the UK shortly where the new prime minister.
23:18
Speaker 2: Can you believe this? He's been two weeks into the job.
23:21
Speaker 2: Just two weeks. Well, he's gone off on holiday already.
23:24
Speaker 2: But now to those IBAC findings from Victoria's corruption watchdog,
23:28
Speaker 2: a scathing report into the way the Andrews government operated,
23:32
Speaker 2: describing repeated failures of governance, accountability and due process. I've
23:37
Speaker 2: read most of the report. It doesn't make for very
23:39
Speaker 2: impressive reading. I've got to say it's further evidence that
23:42
Speaker 2: for years politics in Victoria was put ahead of proper process.
23:46
Speaker 2: Yet despite the findings, no one appears to be held responsible.
23:50
Speaker 2: I mean Daniel Andrews came out and said it cleared
23:53
Speaker 2: him Friday night, regular former Queensland Premier Campbell Newman. Of
23:56
Speaker 2: course he has run a government, a state government, he
23:59
Speaker 2: joins us Campbell. I don't know if you've how much
24:02
Speaker 2: have looked at Iback given you based in Queensland, but
24:05
Speaker 2: if this investigation Operation Richmond had been carried out in
24:09
Speaker 2: Queensland on Tipping, it would be a very different outcome
24:13
Speaker 2: for Daniel Andrews and other labor politicians.
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Speaker 11: Steve it certainly would.
24:20
Speaker 12: And the background of that is that after the Fitzgerald
24:23
Speaker 12: Inquiry of the late eighties, it was realized in Queensland
24:28
Speaker 12: that there were goings on which wouldn't have met the
24:32
Speaker 12: threshold of criminal conduct in terms of what some of
24:35
Speaker 12: the ministers of that day had got up to, and
24:38
Speaker 12: that the bar needed to be lower, it needed.
24:41
Speaker 4: To be lied because the overall.
24:43
Speaker 12: Impact of what people had been doing had destroyed faith
24:46
Speaker 12: in the processes of government. So the Crime and Corruption
24:50
Speaker 12: Commission that we have today, which is the success of
24:53
Speaker 12: a number of previous organizations, has legislation that, in my opinion,
24:58
Speaker 12: would have seen in the circumstances of what's.
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Speaker 11: Gone on in Victoria led to quite a different outcome.
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Speaker 12: I mean, we'll never know, but I would just simply say,
25:06
Speaker 12: on having read some of the Operation Richmond material, I
25:12
Speaker 12: would say quite right now that a Special Minister of
25:15
Speaker 12: State Jennings would be in deep doo dooo. So would
25:19
Speaker 12: the public servants Ecoles and Baits. The Premier would probably
25:24
Speaker 12: have had a finding of corruption against him too under
25:27
Speaker 12: the queens and definitions. As to his removal, well, that
25:32
Speaker 12: would come down to how the Crime and Corruption Commission
25:35
Speaker 12: placed or played the whole matter. But the bottom line
25:39
Speaker 12: is clearly, Steve, Victoria needs a change to the law.
25:42
Speaker 12: It needs to mirror Queensland or New South Wales.
25:46
Speaker 11: But I'll say one thing.
25:48
Speaker 12: We're also seeing this sort of these open hearings with
25:51
Speaker 12: Ibacker New South Wales, and I would say I wouldn't
25:55
Speaker 12: necessarily go down that route because that leads to a
25:58
Speaker 12: whole lot of rather other unfortunate negative consequences as well.
26:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we have had ridiculous situations in New
26:07
Speaker 2: South Wales where Burrio Pharaoh lost your job over accepting
26:11
Speaker 2: a bottle of wine, and Gladys Burry Jiclian was forced
26:14
Speaker 2: to step down because she had a boyfriend who you know,
26:18
Speaker 2: was not the sort of bloke you should have.
26:19
Speaker 5: Been hanging out with.
26:20
Speaker 2: But I mean we've still got speaking of hanging out,
26:22
Speaker 2: we've still got Jeffrey Watson Casey in Queensland into the
26:26
Speaker 2: inquiry into the c FMU. I mean, he's still saying
26:29
Speaker 2: that the big billdown. He has been rauted by fifteen
26:33
Speaker 2: billion dollars and we don't even have our own inquiry here.
26:37
Speaker 2: I mean, Ben Carroll's promised to do one. But you know,
26:40
Speaker 2: I'll believe it when I see it.
26:43
Speaker 12: Well, we talked a week ago when I was beside
26:45
Speaker 12: you in Melbourne. A week has gone by. You'd think
26:49
Speaker 12: if this new premier was serious about integrity, particularly given
26:54
Speaker 12: that he has to demonstrate the whilst he sat in
26:57
Speaker 12: the cabinet room, you know he does have that integrity.
27:01
Speaker 12: After all these things have gone down, A week's gone on,
27:05
Speaker 12: Come on, Premiere, what are you going to actually do
27:07
Speaker 12: about it? I'm sure, I'm sure a few all nighters
27:11
Speaker 12: and you could have the terms of reference and the
27:15
Speaker 12: thing on the road.
27:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just hope he's not waiting to get closer
27:19
Speaker 2: to the election. Let's talk about housing. Campbell construction of
27:22
Speaker 2: freestanding homes expected to take a hit despite the negative
27:27
Speaker 2: gearing carve outs for investors, more doubts about the government's
27:31
Speaker 2: ambitious housing targets. I mean, did you think we'd ever
27:33
Speaker 2: sit here in Australia in twenty twenty six and see
27:38
Speaker 2: housing prices collapse across the country? I mean, Darwin is
27:43
Speaker 2: now the only place that's in positive territory when it
27:46
Speaker 2: comes to the price of houses going up.
27:50
Speaker 12: What the Labor Party have done, Steve has completely destabilized
27:54
Speaker 12: the residential property market in this country. There's now greight, uncertainty.
28:01
Speaker 12: Prices are going down ten fifteen percent depending on the jurisdiction.
28:07
Speaker 12: And in that environment, firstly, people won't invest, so investors
28:12
Speaker 12: have disappeared from the market. Young home buyers then have
28:16
Speaker 12: an issue as well, because they're wondering. I'm sure when
28:20
Speaker 12: they're trying to actually it might on the face of
28:22
Speaker 12: it look like good news, but then you know, what
28:26
Speaker 12: are you actually buying? Will you end up in negative
28:28
Speaker 12: equity positions with the young people who have bought in
28:32
Speaker 12: in probably the last year or two. So you know,
28:36
Speaker 12: if I want to I'll cut to the chase.
28:38
Speaker 11: What's required.
28:39
Speaker 12: Stop these silly new laws, create an atmosphere of stability,
28:46
Speaker 12: and for government to get out of the way with
28:48
Speaker 12: the rules, the regulations, the taxes, all the imposts that
28:53
Speaker 12: are put on it, and let builders go out and
28:55
Speaker 12: build homes, let developers actually come up with places where
28:59
Speaker 12: that can happen, and let the free market prevail.
29:03
Speaker 11: And then as in for example, in Argentina with Malay
29:07
Speaker 11: President Malay, you know.
29:09
Speaker 12: With those sorts of reforms, you actually get affordable housing
29:13
Speaker 12: and you get it being built because the free market
29:15
Speaker 12: will operate. Not here in Australia because they keep doubling down.
29:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a fear that both Albanisi and Charmers
29:26
Speaker 2: are not for turning. Let's talk about federal politics. Pauline Hanson,
29:30
Speaker 2: she's under a fear bit of pressure around her senate
29:33
Speaker 2: colleague Malcolm Roberts. Now Malcolm Roberts has embraced a whole
29:38
Speaker 2: bunch of fairly kooky conspiracy theories. This is part of
29:43
Speaker 2: the problem for One Nation. I was just speaking to
29:46
Speaker 2: the new Victorian leader of One Nation and he seems
29:49
Speaker 2: like a pretty genuine sort of bloke. He's been a
29:51
Speaker 2: soldier and he worked in the coal mine, and he's
29:54
Speaker 2: been a builder all those sorts of things. Malcolm Roberts
29:57
Speaker 2: is causing Pauline some trouble, isn't he.
30:03
Speaker 12: Well, Malcolm's been a Senator for quite some time now
30:07
Speaker 12: and he's been very loyal to paul and I know
30:10
Speaker 12: that absolutely personally. I know how very loyal he has
30:14
Speaker 12: been to her and Pauline Hansen I think always backs
30:19
Speaker 12: people who've been loyal to it. So I think she'll
30:21
Speaker 12: find it very very difficult. As to Malcolm, I know
30:25
Speaker 12: him well as also, and look, on occasions, he's eccentric.
30:31
Speaker 11: He's no dummy. He's a very smart guy.
30:34
Speaker 12: But he's certainly been on occasions in interviews, been what
30:38
Speaker 12: i'd say, somewhat loose in terms of being prepared to
30:42
Speaker 12: give various ideas the benefit the benefit of the doubt,
30:46
Speaker 12: and so here it goes and then at a fair
30:50
Speaker 12: bit of this extra scrutiny that you're talking about in
30:52
Speaker 12: the previous interview, and he suddenly made out to be
30:57
Speaker 12: a liability.
30:58
Speaker 11: I don't think he's a liability.
31:00
Speaker 12: And again I don't think he's going to be someone
31:02
Speaker 12: who's going to serve for the long term with one nation.
31:06
Speaker 12: But because he has been there for some time now.
31:09
Speaker 11: But overall, I.
31:11
Speaker 12: Think he's given good service to one nation from their perspective.
31:19
Speaker 2: Good on your campbell, great to catch up as usual
31:21
Speaker 2: on a Friday night. I'll see you next week. Let's
31:22
Speaker 2: go to the UK.
31:23
Speaker 4: Now.
31:24
Speaker 5: I can't believe this.
31:25
Speaker 2: No, less than two weeks after taking the top job,
31:29
Speaker 2: the new Prime Minister of the UK, Andy Burnham, who's
31:32
Speaker 2: been this great savior, who's appeared out of the north
31:36
Speaker 2: and he's going to fix the country and fix all
31:38
Speaker 2: the problems. He's gone on holidays. I can believe it.
31:42
Speaker 2: Two weeks after being installed in the job. I don't
31:46
Speaker 2: believe it anyway. News twenty four contribute Adrian Hayes joins me,
31:49
Speaker 2: what has.
31:50
Speaker 5: The reaction gone? I mean, this is just crazy.
31:54
Speaker 10: That's a bit of surprise, Steve.
31:55
Speaker 13: I mean it's not like he was cut aboard in
31:57
Speaker 13: the job at short notice.
31:58
Speaker 10: I mean he's been planning this for a year.
32:01
Speaker 13: And and it's also not he hasn't got his daughter's
32:04
Speaker 13: wedding in Wagga Wagga that he's been planning for three years.
32:08
Speaker 13: He's been a job two weeks, as you said, and
32:10
Speaker 13: he's gone a holiday.
32:10
Speaker 3: Now.
32:11
Speaker 10: I know the guvernment will say, and they always.
32:12
Speaker 13: Say this, that the Prime Minister is in control and
32:15
Speaker 13: he'll be working on his laptop in lands A Rotti.
32:17
Speaker 10: Everything's in controuble. But it doesn't. It isn't a good look.
32:21
Speaker 13: I think the surprise is the more most regular emotion
32:25
Speaker 13: of people.
32:27
Speaker 5: Where's he gone?
32:29
Speaker 13: They don't know, They won't say that he's gone abroad,
32:31
Speaker 13: so he's not.
32:33
Speaker 10: He's got his skeed nest, you know.
32:34
Speaker 13: But because he's very much promoting the North and I
32:37
Speaker 13: thought he would have gone a holiday up in the
32:39
Speaker 13: North England, but no, he's gone somewhe rule. But they're
32:41
Speaker 13: keeping that quite quiet and I understand that part of
32:44
Speaker 13: the part of things, but it is a surprise. But
32:45
Speaker 13: I think this more serious point, it's this this culture
32:48
Speaker 13: of entitlement with all our public servants. The civil servants
32:51
Speaker 13: are working from home, the sickness benefits the even working
32:55
Speaker 13: from abroad in cases, and I just don't think that
32:57
Speaker 13: so many people in the public service really realize what
33:00
Speaker 13: it's like in the private sector. People who have to
33:02
Speaker 13: do a hard day's work for living, who can't just
33:04
Speaker 13: take two weeks leave, two weeks into starting a job.
33:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should remind our audience, of course, that August
33:11
Speaker 2: is like Australia's January. I mean a lot of people
33:14
Speaker 2: do take a break at that time. I mean the
33:17
Speaker 2: only news I keep seeing regularly coming out of Europe
33:20
Speaker 2: at the moment, Adrian, is how the temperatures are hot,
33:24
Speaker 2: that it's got to forty two degrees in Austria and
33:27
Speaker 2: these fires. Obviously, the people who are embrace very warmly
33:34
Speaker 2: the idea of global warming and climate change. They think
33:37
Speaker 2: this is great because they can point to it and say, see,
33:39
Speaker 2: we told you so, is it really that bad?
33:43
Speaker 13: The wild fires that are bad, and they have been
33:47
Speaker 13: more this year than before. What they don't tell you
33:49
Speaker 13: is so many five hundred arter thists have been arrested
33:52
Speaker 13: for causing fires, and I sometimes.
33:54
Speaker 10: Think what are these asters doing it for?
33:56
Speaker 13: But if you look at the stats with a critical
33:58
Speaker 13: thinking mind, there is no more natural disasters this year
34:02
Speaker 13: than there has been the past.
34:04
Speaker 10: Having said that, we do accept the earth is getting warmer.
34:07
Speaker 13: As I said before in the show, it's been getting
34:09
Speaker 13: warmer since the eighteen hundreds, the eighteen fifties, which was
34:12
Speaker 13: the coldest century in two thousand, so we have to
34:15
Speaker 13: adapt to mitigate it. But the earth is in danger
34:19
Speaker 13: of burning up or we're being bored alive anytime soon.
34:22
Speaker 10: I've lived in the Middle East.
34:23
Speaker 13: We regularly live in temperatures and work temperatures forty five
34:26
Speaker 13: to fifty degrees celsius.
34:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're tough, not like some of these other
34:31
Speaker 2: people who are winging about things. Nigel farajes the boss
34:34
Speaker 2: of Reform. He's taken on Tony Abbott's Boat's strategy.
34:38
Speaker 5: Now, you know, I remember very well the.
34:40
Speaker 2: Stopped the boat's election campaign and Tony Abbott went and
34:44
Speaker 2: won sixteen seats off the Labor Party. Well, Nigel has
34:47
Speaker 2: said he plans to turn back asylum seekers in the
34:50
Speaker 2: English Channel. Now we're talking about a much narrower body
34:52
Speaker 2: of water. What we had, of course, was off the
34:55
Speaker 2: north coast of Australia. There was basically no one living
34:58
Speaker 2: up there. But for our said he'll do this. Tony
35:02
Speaker 2: Abbott was very successful. Will this work for Farage politically, well.
35:07
Speaker 10: For stars everyone.
35:09
Speaker 13: All political parties are now flocking to the Channel and
35:11
Speaker 13: saying we're going to do something about stopping the boats.
35:14
Speaker 10: This is the boldest move yet from any party.
35:16
Speaker 13: Now the detractors going to saying, let's say impossible, we
35:19
Speaker 13: don't have the boat capacity. We don't know what you know, Mike,
35:23
Speaker 13: that's going to die in the sea, France boat take them,
35:25
Speaker 13: et cetera.
35:26
Speaker 10: But all this to me is superpose.
35:27
Speaker 13: The whole point about it is to stop people coming
35:31
Speaker 13: over to start with. And I think I think it
35:33
Speaker 13: took Tony Abbitt about three weeks, four weeks. If I'm
35:35
Speaker 13: right for my memories to stop boats, I think this
35:37
Speaker 13: could stop in a week.
35:39
Speaker 10: It is that strong.
35:40
Speaker 13: So all these potential problems I think will be a superfose.
35:46
Speaker 5: Yeah.
35:46
Speaker 2: We it was a two stage scene here in Australia.
35:49
Speaker 2: I mean when that we took them to Christmas Island
35:50
Speaker 2: originally and then did a deal with Naaru to relocate people.
35:55
Speaker 2: But then ultimately when we'd emptied out those island facilities,
36:00
Speaker 2: use the Navy to intercept Indonesian fishing boats, many of
36:04
Speaker 2: them leaking and threatening to sink, and we turned them around,
36:08
Speaker 2: towed them back to Indonesia. But you've got to have
36:10
Speaker 2: the other country, the second country accept them. Will the
36:15
Speaker 2: French accept them back? That's where they're coming from the vision.
36:19
Speaker 13: This is one of the objections that people say. But
36:21
Speaker 13: This is what the role of a leader. We let
36:23
Speaker 13: leaders to make things happen. If our Prime Minister, whoever
36:27
Speaker 13: it is, I'm not attacking Andy Burnham cannot go to
36:30
Speaker 13: a manual machhorn in France and say Manuel, we want
36:34
Speaker 13: your help to stop the boats. That will help France
36:36
Speaker 13: help UK. We want to do this for a few weeks.
36:38
Speaker 13: It'll stop it all. But can use the other one
36:41
Speaker 13: if you don't.
36:42
Speaker 10: We're going to do it anyway.
36:43
Speaker 13: You know you've got to show leadership and courage to
36:45
Speaker 13: make this happen. As I said, it's not rocket science.
36:48
Speaker 13: It's a simple case of courage and action.
36:53
Speaker 5: Do you know You're right? For a couple of weeks,
36:55
Speaker 5: we'll catch up and when.
36:56
Speaker 2: You get back you're probably going on holidays with Andy Burnham,
36:58
Speaker 2: but I doubt that very much.
37:00
Speaker 5: Good on your mate.
37:00
Speaker 2: I'll see you in a couple of weeks time after
37:02
Speaker 2: the break, folks, Cartoons of the week, the Great Mark
37:04
Speaker 2: Knight will be in the studio.
37:10
Speaker 5: Welcome back.
37:10
Speaker 2: Time to look back on the last week or two
37:12
Speaker 2: in news and how it's been depicted by our very
37:15
Speaker 2: good friend, the Heraldson cartoonist Mark Knightmark welping, you've had
37:20
Speaker 2: such a wealth of stuff to work with, premiers quitting
37:23
Speaker 2: people getting elected as new premiers, old premiers coming back
37:27
Speaker 2: and saying I did nothing wrong.
37:29
Speaker 4: It's amazing, isn't it.
37:30
Speaker 5: It is incredible when they really fire.
37:32
Speaker 4: Up Victoria, the epicenter.
37:34
Speaker 5: It's incredible. Dan Andrews and the Union. What have we
37:38
Speaker 5: drawn about Danny and the Union?
37:40
Speaker 4: Well?
37:41
Speaker 14: Dan, they released the Richmond Report, yes, which has been suppressed.
37:45
Speaker 4: For what ten years?
37:47
Speaker 5: Ten years?
37:47
Speaker 14: And who his dealings with the United Firefighters Union and
37:51
Speaker 14: it came out and love and behold. It showed that
37:53
Speaker 14: there were let's say, non conventional negotiation means they're in hotels,
37:59
Speaker 14: they were you.
38:00
Speaker 4: Know, backdoor stuff. And so I thought, you know, this
38:05
Speaker 4: is another this is.
38:06
Speaker 14: Another accessory for Dan's statue. And so I've redesigned Dan statue.
38:10
Speaker 5: It's a three header Now there is.
38:12
Speaker 4: The Holy Trinity there.
38:14
Speaker 14: He'll be with Peter Marshall from the United Firefighters Unions
38:17
Speaker 14: and of.
38:17
Speaker 4: Course he's good mate at the CFMU.
38:20
Speaker 2: Yes, Johnny SEPC there's a bloke with a chisel and
38:24
Speaker 2: a hammer.
38:25
Speaker 14: We have the sculptor working at this latest recreation of
38:29
Speaker 14: statue and he's saying, don't move.
38:31
Speaker 5: Surely they don't move. They're not going to actually make
38:33
Speaker 5: this thing, are they.
38:34
Speaker 4: Well, I hope they do. It'll be it'll be a
38:38
Speaker 4: bigger draw. It'll be the biggest too.
38:39
Speaker 2: Restrain the other ones today pristine, No one's not even
38:43
Speaker 2: any pigeon stuff on them.
38:44
Speaker 5: But if Dan's gets done, there'll.
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Speaker 4: Be a mote of alligators or crocodiles to.
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Speaker 2: Be a permanent mess. Pauline Hansen, she's also been in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of protests around her.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Pauline dropped in.
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Speaker 5: She's back. She's involved in the movie The Odyssey on stand.
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Speaker 14: Well, I like to use the analogies of popular culture,
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Speaker 14: and the Odyssey is taking the world by stall.
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Speaker 4: Everybody's talking about this movie.
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Speaker 14: And if you've seen it, you will see the scene
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Speaker 14: from the Sirens, who are these women who lure people
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Speaker 14: to their doom?
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Speaker 2: And there she is looing the labor booing the labor
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Speaker 2: vote is going to go on the rocks.
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Speaker 14: And the Victorian premiere, Carol is tied to the mast telling.
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Speaker 4: His labor voters, don't listen, don't look.
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Speaker 2: Calling to love that I reckon, we did as I
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Speaker 2: said the premiers. There's been a bit of changing of
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Speaker 2: the guard at the top here called Ben Carroll, who
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Speaker 2: most people in the state would never have heard.
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Speaker 4: Of, neither Victorians. Probably.
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Speaker 2: He's a bit like the Captain of the Titanic, you
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Speaker 2: reckon a little bit.
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Speaker 14: He reshuffled his ministry this week, and look, it's one
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Speaker 14: of the great cliches, but it always works as a
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Speaker 14: beautiful drawing.
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Speaker 4: And you know, there it is.
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Speaker 14: It's midnight on the deck and Ben is re shuffling
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Speaker 14: his ministry.
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Speaker 4: They have a few overboards the the SRL chair.
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Speaker 14: When the Suburban Rail Loop chair just went overboard, we
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Speaker 14: got on the iceberg poles they hit the iceberg named
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Speaker 14: opinion poles. And if you look at if you look
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Speaker 14: at the angle of the deck price, it's not a
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Speaker 14: good angle.
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Speaker 5: Ship's gone down quick.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you because you've had fun over
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Speaker 2: the last twelve years drawing Dan Andrews.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, with the big years.
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Speaker 2: Did he change much in the ten year period the
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Speaker 2: way you drew him.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the way we sort of create these templates.
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Speaker 5: Tougher jacket.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, one during.
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Speaker 14: COVID he was in his you know, had him in
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Speaker 14: his north face jacket.
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Speaker 4: And then we you know, Johanna.
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Speaker 14: Sleek was drawing him in the in the Mao suit,
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Speaker 14: the Chinese sort of communist suit, and then I put him.
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Speaker 14: I thought, well, he's also a bit like Kim John wun,
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Speaker 14: so I did him in the Kim John won suit.
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Speaker 4: So he he morphed through the very.
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Speaker 2: Stages speaking of speaking of Johannes's leek, yes today, oh yes,
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Speaker 2: managing the ABC stick.
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Speaker 5: Had a stick he probably would want.
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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have thought a bit of bum here.
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Speaker 5: So you did you center? And then is Ben Carroll
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Speaker 5: going to be okay to draw? I immediately looked and
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Speaker 5: thought he's got a good.
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Speaker 4: Head of here, great head of hair.
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Speaker 14: It's sort of Liberachi come Elvis, you know, and we'll
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Speaker 14: be able to do with that.
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Speaker 4: We do a lot with that.
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Speaker 2: We did well in the con Games, a lot of
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Speaker 2: gold medals, more than we could probably carry. Yea, they
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Speaker 2: came back your take on that, you think Albow might
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Speaker 2: be ready to slap them with.
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Speaker 4: The Albow never misses a taxing opportunity.
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Speaker 14: And we have a swag of medals, gold medals, and
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Speaker 14: you could just see them turning up at the airport and.
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Speaker 4: Being made aware that there is a gold medal tax.
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Speaker 2: Now I love that I've written a column about Daniel Andrews.
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Speaker 2: It's up online and be in the Herold's Undermorrow.
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Speaker 4: I have read it.
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Speaker 5: Have you and drawing something for.
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Speaker 4: Me this week I have made. It's a good one.
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Speaker 14: You didn't hold back on Daniel for tomorrow. I thought,
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Speaker 14: you know, we're all talking about this statue. Yeah, and
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Speaker 14: I love that movie Field of Dreams. If you build it,
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Speaker 14: they come, but they will be carrying engle grinders.
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Speaker 5: It looks like it.
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Speaker 2: Looks like Kim Jong un from the career. Thank you, Mark,
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Speaker 2: I'll see you in a couple of weeks. And just quickly, Mark,
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Speaker 2: that was one of the great weeks. He's done a
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Speaker 2: great job. Come up after the breakout panel of Join
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Speaker 2: us and we will have a chat about a number
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Speaker 2: of things, including a rant from a Victorian labor MP
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Speaker 2: who says, guess what Victorians actually want?
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Speaker 5: More potholes?
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Speaker 4: What fool said that?
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Speaker 2: Welcome back Friday Night panel Time News twenty four contributor
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Speaker 2: Joe Hildebrand and Executive director of the Samuel Griffith Society,
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Speaker 2: Mia Si Join Us. Welcome to you both. I'm very
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Speaker 2: tempted to each week have a quote of the Week
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Speaker 2: because I want to show you quickly a grab from
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Speaker 2: a labor minister in Victoria in the chamber during the
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Speaker 2: last sitting week. It's been doing the rounds on social
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Speaker 2: media because it's so gob smackingly stupid. Joe and Mia
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Speaker 2: listen to this.
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Speaker 15: But not everyone's on board with your pothole thing. They
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Speaker 15: actually like it full of potholes. Yes, actually it is.
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Speaker 15: It's the residents who don't want it resealed because they
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Speaker 15: don't like traffic going down, so they're quite happy to
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Speaker 15: have it full of potholes. Might I add, So not
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Speaker 15: everyone's on board with your pothole thing. They actually like
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Speaker 15: it full of potholes. Yes, actually it is.
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Speaker 2: Well that's Sonya Turpsterra and Upper House MP got for
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Speaker 2: the Northeastern Metropolitan Region. I mean, Joe seriously getting up
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Speaker 2: in Parliament. Some people love potholes, Give it break.
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Speaker 16: It's obviously completely insane. And even if the residents did
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Speaker 16: like the potholes, they've got no shortage of Nimby's indy
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Speaker 16: as well. It's not the government's job to allow them
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Speaker 16: to wreck the axles of any passing or visiting car
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Speaker 16: that might happen to be unfortunate enough to drive down
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Speaker 16: that particular street. I think this is something that has
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Speaker 16: got to be done. I think the pothole is almost
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Speaker 16: a kind of it's almost a barometer of how well
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Speaker 16: your economy and society is doing. I think if you
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Speaker 16: can't afford to fix the potholes and your streets are undrivable,
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Speaker 16: it's a pretty clear sign that the rest of the
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Speaker 16: economy isn't going particularly well either.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, me, I mean it is an example of how
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Speaker 2: rotten the state of Victoria is. And as you know,
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Speaker 2: you're a Victorian. I went for a drive into Country
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Speaker 2: Victoria last weekend. And what the government does, Joe and
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Speaker 2: me but me are particularly They draw yellow lines around
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Speaker 2: the potholes, so that you're going at one hundred and
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Speaker 2: one hundred klometers an hour down a road there's a
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Speaker 2: deep pothole like that, and they think you're going to
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Speaker 2: out avoid it because they've drawn a yellow line around it.
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Speaker 6: It's just it's unbelievable. Steve, I don't know if this
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Speaker 6: is just a sign that the labor government here in
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Speaker 6: Victoria has just simply given up.
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Speaker 11: I'm not sure.
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Speaker 6: I mean, it's really that Usually at least we get
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Speaker 6: some kind of fake press conference where you all stand
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Speaker 6: up there and they promise to do better, and they
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Speaker 6: promise they'll fix the potholes, and they'll promise to invest
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Speaker 6: all this money into it. And of course then the
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Speaker 6: analysis comes when we discover that the labor government here
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Speaker 6: in Victoria has no money. So we all remain disappointed, nonetheless,
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Speaker 6: But the labor government here seems to have skip to
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Speaker 6: all those steps and we've just gone to the stage
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Speaker 6: of acceptance of just saying, well, we've got the potholes,
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Speaker 6: so now we're going to use them as some kind
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Speaker 6: of traffic control mechanism. How unbelievable is that. I mean,
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Speaker 6: it just shows why the polls are tanking here in
45:43
Speaker 6: Victoria's because this government has absolutely no accountability. Not only
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Speaker 6: can they acknowledge that Victorians here in this state are suffering,
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Speaker 6: but then now they're saying that we just have to
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Speaker 6: deal with it.
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Speaker 11: Pretty much, that's it.
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Speaker 2: They've given up. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
45:57
Speaker 2: Although Ben Carol Maitre and do something Joe talking about
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Speaker 2: politicians and crazy plans to dump projects. I mean, there's
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Speaker 2: a debate going on about the suburban rail loop here,
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Speaker 2: but the federal government has shelved the end of the
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Speaker 2: inland rail line. Now this is from narrow Mind to Narrabrie,
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Speaker 2: the section of the inland rail after the cost blew out. Yes,
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Speaker 2: it's going to cost a lot of money, but what's
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Speaker 2: the point of having this inland transport rail corridor if
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Speaker 2: it doesn't go to where it was supposed to go
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Speaker 2: in the first place.
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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's my first reaction as well.
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Speaker 4: Mate.
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Speaker 16: I realized it's a cost blowout, and I realized that
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Speaker 16: the government doesn't want to be throwing good money after
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Speaker 16: bad But the idea that you would just sort of
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Speaker 16: leave this sitting around with literally, you know, tens of
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Speaker 16: thousands of sleepers just gathering dust, is pretty entirerable. I
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Speaker 16: think it's one of those things where because it is
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Speaker 16: something that is out of sight and out of mind
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Speaker 16: for most people in the metropolitan regions of Australia, it's
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Speaker 16: something the government has just been able to quietly cut. Whereas,
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Speaker 16: of course, when you've got the suburban rail loop or
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Speaker 16: cross city cross city tunnel that Dan Andrews cut upon
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Speaker 16: getting elected, it's something that everyone can put their finger
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Speaker 16: on and see and get outraged about, or at least
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Speaker 16: have a debate about whereas this is really vital for
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Speaker 16: rural communities and farmers and the rural economy. And yet
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Speaker 16: you know, before this article in the eyes people almost
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Speaker 16: wouldn't have known that it was just sitting there Mia.
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Speaker 2: I was shocked today Cole's going to move a thousand
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Speaker 2: jobs off to India, allowing the supermarket to cut costs.
47:29
Speaker 2: Some of these jobs were you know, I would have thought,
47:32
Speaker 2: face to face roles that needed to be done. This
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Speaker 2: is the problem that we're going to face with AI increasingly.
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Speaker 2: That's a lot of jobs shipped off shore.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it absolutely is, Steve, and it's a real sign
47:46
Speaker 6: that the private job market here in Australia is on
47:49
Speaker 6: the decline. We're seeing hundreds and thousands of jobs across
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Speaker 6: the sector being sent offshore because it's simply it's just
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Speaker 6: too expensive to run businesses here in the country with
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Speaker 6: the amount of red tape that we have that are
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Speaker 6: strangling those private economies. And at the same time, the
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Speaker 6: only businesses that seem to be booming are the public sector,
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Speaker 6: which are growing at a rapid rate, which are far
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Speaker 6: outpacing the increase of the population and government spending. Of course,
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Speaker 6: yet it's private businesses that are closing up shop and
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Speaker 6: sending all those jobs offshore.
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Speaker 2: One word answer Dan Andrews' statue, Yes or no, Joe no, mea.
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Speaker 6: It's an easy one for me, Steve, No, no way.
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Speaker 5: And for me no.
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Speaker 2: That's three nos. Ben Carroll, you got it from us.
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Speaker 2: Scrap the statue, don't do it. Have a great weekend, everybody.
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Speaker 2: Talk to you next week coming up rowandin