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- 0:00Speaker 1: People in Sweden are still waiting to find out who
- 0:02Speaker 1: won Sunday's national election. Ballot counting continues, with the race
- 0:06Speaker 1: still too close to call. The results so far give
- 0:10Speaker 1: the center-left opposition, led by the Social Democrats, a narrow lead.
- 0:15Speaker 1: So narrow that a victory over the center-right bloc could
- 0:19Speaker 1: come down to mail-in votes that have yet to be counted.
- 0:22Speaker 1: The far-right, anti-immigration Sweden Democrats say that this may be
- 0:26Speaker 1: a bump in the road, but not a defeat.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Morning commuters head to work in the Swedish capital, Stockholm,
- 0:35Speaker 2: as the country awaits the outcome of Sunday's general election.
- 0:40Speaker 2: The left-wing bloc is marginally ahead, but in a quirk
- 0:45Speaker 2: of the Swedish electoral system, counting will now be paused
- 0:48Speaker 2: until Wednesday. In the last election four years ago, over 220,000
- 0:53Speaker 2: ballots were included in the late count. with roughly the
- 0:59Speaker 2: same number estimated this time around. If the left-wing Social
- 1:04Speaker 2: Democrats are able to maintain their lead as the largest party,
- 1:08Speaker 2: they face a complicated task of negotiating with other groups
- 1:12Speaker 2: to form a coalition government. Still, there was optimism at
- 1:18Speaker 2: party headquarters on Sunday evening.
- 1:23Speaker 3: It appears that the result will be very close. That
- 1:27Speaker 3: means that, Regardless of the final result, there is reason
- 1:31Speaker 3: to seek a new spirit of cooperation in Swedish politics.
- 1:35Speaker 3: But now we are leading. If this holds, Sweden will
- 1:41Speaker 3: have a new government.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Current Prime Minister and leader of the centre-right moderate party,
- 1:48Speaker 2: Ulf Christensen, struck a more cautious tone with his political
- 1:53Speaker 2: allies around three seats behind the opposition bloc.
- 1:56Speaker 4: Well.
- 1:57Speaker 5: To me, the result isn't that surprising. I was quite
- 2:00Speaker 5: confident that it was far more narrow compared to what
- 2:04Speaker 5: different polls suggested, so I'm not that surprised. Now it's
- 2:08Speaker 5: extremely narrow, perhaps so narrow that we cannot simply say
- 2:12Speaker 5: yet who has won and who has lost.
- 2:14Speaker 2: In Sweden, there is a sense of surprise at just
- 2:18Speaker 2: how close the results are.
- 2:20Speaker 4: It was entertainment to sit down and watch how it
- 2:28Speaker 4: developed and turned from right to left all the night.
- 2:32Speaker 4: I am quite surprised because both sides of the coin
- 2:38Speaker 4: have been really adamant with their points of view.
- 2:42Speaker 6: For us who want the righties to win, it's a
- 2:45Speaker 6: bit nervous, but still they didn't close yet. So we
- 2:50Speaker 6: still have a couple of days to be decided.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Despite a slight fall in turnout, 80% of people voted
- 2:58Speaker 2: in Sunday's election that was dominated by issues including welfare spending,
- 3:03Speaker 2: gang crime and national security.
- 3:07Speaker 1: Well, our correspondent Terry Schultz, she is just back from Stockholm.
- 3:10Speaker 1: She joins us now from Brussels. Terry, we just heard
- 3:14Speaker 1: there some different views on whether the outcome was expected
- 3:18Speaker 1: or not. You were in Sweden for several days. You've
- 3:20Speaker 1: been talking to voters. What's your take?
- 3:25Speaker 7: Talking to voters, yes, Brent, and also reading those polls obsessively.
- 3:29Speaker 7: And some of them predicted it absolutely perfectly. There was
- 3:33Speaker 7: a difference of one seat last night for several hours.
- 3:35Speaker 7: In fact, when all the party leaders gave their speeches at,
- 3:38Speaker 7: you know, 1 o'clock in the morning, there was only
- 3:41Speaker 7: a one-seat difference. And as votes continued to be counted overnight,
- 3:44Speaker 7: that grew to three seats, which is, as we've been
- 3:47Speaker 7: talking about, razor thin. So I think the really big
- 3:50Speaker 7: surprise of the night came in the— disappointment that the
- 3:56Speaker 7: Sweden Democrats are feeling at no longer being the second
- 4:00Speaker 7: largest party in Sweden. They dropped in support to the
- 4:04Speaker 7: third largest party, which, you know, they're saying that that
- 4:08Speaker 7: was not a failure. But of course, they would have
- 4:10Speaker 7: liked to be even stronger because they have been promised
- 4:14Speaker 7: cabinet seats in the next government if the centre-right bloc
- 4:16Speaker 7: does come to power, Brent. And maybe that will be
- 4:20Speaker 7: different now that they've lost support.
- 4:22Speaker 1: And with the way things are looking right now with
- 4:24Speaker 1: the ballot counting, Terry, who has the better chance of
- 4:28Speaker 1: forming a government?
- 4:31Speaker 7: Well, we don't even know who's going to get the
- 4:33Speaker 7: chance to form a government yet because, as was mentioned
- 4:36Speaker 7: there in Craig's piece, there are some 220,000 votes yet
- 4:40Speaker 7: to be counted, and those won't even be known until Wednesday.
- 4:43Speaker 7: So both sides are really hanging on a thread right now.
- 4:49Speaker 7: It's not clear that Magdalena Anderson will get the chance
- 4:51Speaker 7: to form a a new government. And, you know, this
- 4:54Speaker 7: is really a messy process because you would think that
- 4:56Speaker 7: the party that gets the most number of votes, as
- 4:59Speaker 7: the Social Democrats have done for 100 years in Sweden,
- 5:02Speaker 7: would automatically get the chance. That's not the case. If
- 5:05Speaker 7: she can't form a government, it will again fall to
- 5:07Speaker 7: Uffe Christensen.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Some see this election as a chance to halt Sweden's
- 5:13Speaker 1: shift to the right. But is that really what's at stake?
- 5:18Speaker 1: Or has Swedish politics already changed regardless of who ends
- 5:22Speaker 1: up forming the next government.
- 5:24Speaker 7: You know, if you look at the history of Sweden
- 5:28Speaker 7: as a country, it's not even recognizable now in terms
- 5:32Speaker 7: of immigration policy, asylum policy. This is a country that
- 5:37Speaker 7: had its arms wide open for immigrants for much of
- 5:41Speaker 7: its past. And the Sweden Democrats capitalized on the backlash
- 5:46Speaker 7: that Swedish people were feeling.
- 5:48Speaker 4: They sort of.
- 5:48Speaker 7: Felt like they were being taken advantage of, that these
- 5:52Speaker 7: policies were too lax, that that people with criminal records
- 5:56Speaker 7: were being allowed to stay, people that had no right
- 5:58Speaker 7: or no chance to qualify for asylum were getting a
- 6:01Speaker 7: free ride in Sweden. So there were a lot of
- 6:03Speaker 7: people who were willing to accept these far-right policies. And
- 6:08Speaker 7: that is, in fact, what the government of Ulf Kristersen
- 6:11Speaker 7: did in allowing the Sweden Democrats to cooperate with them
- 6:15Speaker 7: on the right. And then he went a step further,
- 6:16Speaker 7: as I mentioned earlier, and said that if we again
- 6:20Speaker 7: do form a government, you Sweden Democrats will now have
- 6:23Speaker 7: cabinet posts. So Sweden, I think, has gone to the right. Yeah,
- 6:30Speaker 7: there's no going back on a lot of these things.
- 6:32Speaker 1: We know all across Europe this election has been closely watched.
- 6:35Speaker 1: We know in France the far right is surging. We
- 6:40Speaker 1: just saw here in Germany the AFD. They just won
- 6:43Speaker 1: the most votes in a state election. You've got Reform
- 6:47Speaker 1: UK in the UK. I mean, the elections, they were
- 6:50Speaker 1: eagerly watched by both those who support the growth of
- 6:53Speaker 1: far-right politics in Europe and, of course, those who fear them.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Does the result, does it have a message for Europe?
- 7:02Speaker 7: Absolutely, it does. And I think depending on which side
- 7:05Speaker 7: someone is on, they will draw those messages. If you
- 7:09Speaker 7: want to be encouraged that the far right does not
- 7:13Speaker 7: automatically march forward, that there is not a limitless, you know,
- 7:18Speaker 7: growth of far right politics, then they will be encouraged
- 7:22Speaker 7: by the Swedish result. Of course, if you fear far-right politics,
- 7:26Speaker 7: you're going to notice how many votes still do go
- 7:28Speaker 7: to the Sweden Democrats and how right-wing the Swedish government
- 7:32Speaker 7: became with their cooperation. I think a lot will depend
- 7:36Speaker 7: on what happens now with the Sweden Democrats. They may
- 7:39Speaker 7: decide that they went too mainstream in cooperating with Ulf
- 7:43Speaker 7: Kristersson's moderate parties, and perhaps they will again go further right.
- 7:47Speaker 7: We have to see what they do and what the
- 7:49Speaker 7: Sweden Democrats themselves draw as lessons from their election— results
- 7:54Speaker 7: which are disappointing for them.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Yeah, all of this as the ballot counting continues in Sweden.
- 7:59Speaker 1: DW's Terry Schultz with the latest tonight. Terry, as always,
- 8:02Speaker 1: thank you.