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- 0:00Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football and it's an
- 0:05Speaker 1: extra voice by John Carny. God, Jaguars, did you Jack?
- 0:15Speaker 1: Jack Warris? Did you go? Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex
- 0:21Speaker 1: text John Oh shows it Actually Jaguars Drive Time starts
- 0:27Speaker 1: right now. Happy Thursday. Good morning, Jaguars Drive Time Thursday Morning,
- 0:32Speaker 1: brought to you by the Fields Auto Group. As we
- 0:34Speaker 1: get ready shifting our focus to the Cincinnati being well
- 0:38Speaker 1: almost all someway we got, we got a little epitaph
- 0:40Speaker 1: to put on this whole thing. Yeah, yesterday was absolutely
- 0:43Speaker 1: the Jalen Ramsay show this week or today, it's about
- 0:48Speaker 1: I would hope it would be less than that, to
- 0:49Speaker 1: be honest with you looking at this rundown. Okay, we'll
- 0:54Speaker 1: follow it since you're in control. Yeah, yesterday was a
- 0:57Speaker 1: crazy day to say the least. Yeah, you know, got away. Uh,
- 1:00Speaker 1: just some perspective. I don't And I've obviously been here
- 1:04Speaker 1: for the whole time. The Jaggers have never traded a
- 1:07Speaker 1: player in his prime away like this, um, And I'm
- 1:11Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that they shouldn't have or couldn't have
- 1:14Speaker 1: at any point in time. It just at the end
- 1:17Speaker 1: of the evening to reflect on it, and this morning
- 1:19Speaker 1: with my workout buddies to talk about it. Um, there's
- 1:23Speaker 1: a risk associated with it. There was a risk associated
- 1:25Speaker 1: and not doing it. But the risk associated was you
- 1:27Speaker 1: might never see a defensive back um. And I think
- 1:31Speaker 1: if he had played here a long time, we talked
- 1:32Speaker 1: about him as being one of the the three or
- 1:35Speaker 1: four best ever Jaguars, Um, you might not see the
- 1:39Speaker 1: combination of size, speed, talent, competitiveness, all of that. Um,
- 1:43Speaker 1: you might not never see it again, you know. I
- 1:45Speaker 1: mean it's he's a rare player. He's a pain in
- 1:47Speaker 1: the butt um and we all know that. And he's
- 1:50Speaker 1: gone now, but he beyond special on the field. Yeah,
- 1:55Speaker 1: And it was interesting. Klais Campbell spoke in the locker
- 1:57Speaker 1: room yesterday and he was saying the team went run
- 2:00Speaker 1: through something similar last year when they trade away Dante
- 2:02Speaker 1: Feller Jr. But we were all saying, and we were
- 2:04Speaker 1: asking Calais after this is nowhere? No, no, now Look.
- 2:09Speaker 1: I always called Dante a lion. I mean you saw
- 2:11Speaker 1: him out there, he was. He was a rare athlete too,
- 2:14Speaker 1: obviously a bigger kind of athlete. And I think what
- 2:16Speaker 1: you're talking about is that with Jalen, we said you
- 2:20Speaker 1: might not ever see that kind of athlete again. You
- 2:21Speaker 1: have two more first round picks, that's great, and a fourth,
- 2:23Speaker 1: and you don't know what that's going to return. Um,
- 2:28Speaker 1: you have to make good decisions with that now, and
- 2:30Speaker 1: that's obviously the process they'll go about. Um, we could
- 2:33Speaker 1: talk about this one forever. It's just it was a
- 2:35Speaker 1: monumental moment for the Jaguars and it feels better today
- 2:40Speaker 1: in large part. And I know we got to get
- 2:42Speaker 1: into the big things because when Dion Sanders yesterday went
- 2:45Speaker 1: on NFL Network and said he didn't think this was
- 2:47Speaker 1: going to be a long term deal, I almost spit
- 2:50Speaker 1: the coffee that I was drinking out my nose. He
- 2:53Speaker 1: hadn't even been there a day yet and already had
- 2:56Speaker 1: planted the seeds for his next move, because don't we
- 2:59Speaker 1: all see this, He's gonna do adon did. He's gonna
- 3:02Speaker 1: wear out his welcome here there in Atlanta, Seattle, Minnesota,
- 3:06Speaker 1: wherever else he goes play. He'll play for at least
- 3:08Speaker 1: four teams and we'll go in No one's ring of
- 3:11Speaker 1: honor because he won't be anywhere long enough. Um, maybe
- 3:14Speaker 1: never win a championship, maybe never be able to establish
- 3:17Speaker 1: Hall of Fame credentials, but what he will do is
- 3:20Speaker 1: make a boatload of money and maybe that's enough for him.
- 3:23Speaker 1: All right, let's get into big things and surprise. Big
- 3:25Speaker 1: thing one is Jalen Ramsey. Big thing one is someone
- 3:28Speaker 1: else's problem. The Dalen Ramsey story is now complete here
- 3:32Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. You're gonna hear a lot about focusing in
- 3:34Speaker 1: the locker room today and throughout the week. Gardner Mine says,
- 3:37Speaker 1: there's fifty two other guys who are focusing on winning
- 3:40Speaker 1: right now. Now. We wish him well man as part
- 3:43Speaker 1: as part of the deal, um, but you know, we
- 3:45Speaker 1: got fifty three dudes in the locker room that we
- 3:47Speaker 1: feel comfortable going to win with. So that's all we're
- 3:49Speaker 1: really concerned with now. Big thing, too is the row.
- 3:53Speaker 1: The Jaguars have played well, especially in the second half
- 3:56Speaker 1: in Carolina, in Houston, in Denver. Can they do again
- 4:00Speaker 1: this week? And then say not? Very good team? Oh
- 4:03Speaker 1: and six frankly bad. I don't want to say it, no, no, no,
- 4:08Speaker 1: I'll say it. They're a bad football team right now.
- 4:10Speaker 1: They've got talent, but the talent is injured. So can
- 4:12Speaker 1: you do it again on the road this week. And
- 4:14Speaker 1: big thing three is m n P most necessary player
- 4:19Speaker 1: in Jacksonville right now. Brian and I both agree that
- 4:22Speaker 1: is Leonard for net especially this week against a very
- 4:26Speaker 1: poor run defense against the Bengals. All Right, I don't
- 4:28Speaker 1: want to get out of this segment without talking about that.
- 4:30Speaker 1: That that deserves a lot of attention. But we gotta
- 4:32Speaker 1: go back and let's finish the whole, the whole Jalen
- 4:34Speaker 1: Randy thing. Because we we we laughed a little bit,
- 4:37Speaker 1: you know, we listened to his news conference. And here's
- 4:40Speaker 1: the thing that strikes me. Have I told you have
- 4:42Speaker 1: we discussed the parable of the frog and the scorpion? Okay,
- 4:45Speaker 1: so I just want to get it real quick. And
- 4:46Speaker 1: if you haven't heard this one, um, there was a
- 4:48Speaker 1: frog who was standing on the edge of a stream
- 4:50Speaker 1: and a scorpion came to him and said, I can't swim.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Can you put me on your back and take me
- 4:56Speaker 1: across the river? And the frog said, no, I won't
- 4:58Speaker 1: do that. You'll sting me and I'll dry out. And
- 5:00Speaker 1: the scorpion said, why would I do that? Because if
- 5:03Speaker 1: I sting you and you drown, then we both die.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Because I can't swim, And the frog thought about it
- 5:07Speaker 1: and said, well, okay, you're right, So he let him
- 5:11Speaker 1: get on his back and they started swimming, and halfway
- 5:12Speaker 1: across the river, scorpion stung in. The frog said why
- 5:15Speaker 1: did you do that? Now we're both gonna die, and
- 5:17Speaker 1: the scorpion said, I'm a scorpion. It's what I do, right.
- 5:20Speaker 1: The reason I tell you that story is is that's
- 5:22Speaker 1: what this is. This is who Jalen Ramsey. Did you
- 5:24Speaker 1: think of this? Well, this is it's a fable, it's
- 5:28Speaker 1: it's something that people have heard. I didn't just make
- 5:30Speaker 1: it up. The point in telling you this is is
- 5:32Speaker 1: that this is who Jalen Ramsey is. And it came
- 5:36Speaker 1: to me as I was watching the Dion Sanders interview
- 5:38Speaker 1: and then reading this story afterwards, because he hadn't even
- 5:42Speaker 1: been in in l A and already he had Dion,
- 5:46Speaker 1: who is his agent right carries his water for him, say, um,
- 5:50Speaker 1: I'm a businessman, uh he Jalen is coming to a
- 5:55Speaker 1: team that is not going to be a contended for
- 5:57Speaker 1: very long because they're kept out already. Effect Dion's words were, um,
- 6:01Speaker 1: these aren't the rams of old you mean the rams
- 6:03Speaker 1: of last year old and then the final one was
- 6:08Speaker 1: and that was the kicker to it all is but
- 6:10Speaker 1: you gotta get out of that state because California has
- 6:12Speaker 1: a thirteen point three percent local tax, and so thirteen
- 6:16Speaker 1: dollars out of every hundred that he makes are going
- 6:19Speaker 1: to the state of California. It's too expense if he
- 6:21Speaker 1: needs to go somewhere like Texas or Tennessee or Nevada. Now,
- 6:24Speaker 1: because they're gonna have a team, So start the trade
- 6:26Speaker 1: talks now, exactly before you plant the seeds. Hey, this
- 6:28Speaker 1: is only going to be about a year. And so
- 6:30Speaker 1: I thought, there's the scorpion. He does what he does right,
- 6:33Speaker 1: He's gonna sting his way out of a couple of
- 6:34Speaker 1: different places over the course of his career. He's gonna
- 6:37Speaker 1: sting him for a big pay day and then he's
- 6:39Speaker 1: gonna move on. I heard a story this morning on
- 6:42Speaker 1: the radio that a local retailer had twenty five thousand
- 6:46Speaker 1: dollars in Jalen Ramsey jerseys in his inventory amongst his
- 6:50Speaker 1: stories and Jackson but sting, right, he's gonna sting. He's
- 6:55Speaker 1: gonna sting. There's gonna be Rams jerseys and four other
- 6:59Speaker 1: France guys jerseys that are gonna be sitting on racks,
- 7:02Speaker 1: you know, mark down and they'll be fans burning them
- 7:05Speaker 1: like I saw on social media. Right, this is what
- 7:07Speaker 1: it's what he does, and that's why it makes the
- 7:10Speaker 1: move to get him out of here the right move,
- 7:13Speaker 1: not to not to to push it and to loiter
- 7:16Speaker 1: it and to send him home and deactivate him or
- 7:18Speaker 1: put him on IR. They made the right move. They
- 7:21Speaker 1: got him out of here. They now longer no longer
- 7:24Speaker 1: see him as their problem because he's not. And I
- 7:26Speaker 1: just laughed. You know, I thought, if I'm a RAMS
- 7:29Speaker 1: fan right now, if I work in the RAMS front office,
- 7:31Speaker 1: I'm less snat. I'm thinking, okay, let's start negotiating, right
- 7:35Speaker 1: and see if we know what did we just did
- 7:37Speaker 1: we because they traded him or traded for him without
- 7:40Speaker 1: having an extension in place, which means he has all
- 7:44Speaker 1: the leverage, and he used it yesterday with Dion Sanders
- 7:47Speaker 1: before he had even set foot in the RAMS facility.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Stingy couch, Why did you do that? I'm a scorpion.
- 7:54Speaker 1: It's what I do. Someone else's problem. The interesting thing
- 7:58Speaker 1: to me was we'll get of this later in around
- 8:01Speaker 1: the locker room. But everyone was talking about, especially Miles Jack,
- 8:04Speaker 1: saying how they wished the Jaguars could have found a
- 8:07Speaker 1: way to keep them because as great as the draft
- 8:09Speaker 1: picks are, you know, Jalen is our teammate. He's a
- 8:11Speaker 1: proven commodity, right, But no one really mentioned Jalen was
- 8:15Speaker 1: the one who requested the trade. It made it seem
- 8:18Speaker 1: like the Jaguars were the one pushing him out the door.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Jen had the door open. Yeah, no, no, that's players
- 8:23Speaker 1: and and and they want to be friends with him still,
- 8:26Speaker 1: they want to maintain a relationship with him. I'm I'm
- 8:28Speaker 1: not sure Jalen is all that interested in that, um,
- 8:31Speaker 1: But they wanted to have the bridge to their fellow teammates,
- 8:36Speaker 1: so they left it open. But they all understand it.
- 8:39Speaker 1: They knew that this was Jalen's doing. And as I
- 8:41Speaker 1: said to you yesterday, I think the whole thing was
- 8:43Speaker 1: contrived from the beginning of the season. They were looking
- 8:45Speaker 1: for a flash point somewhere. They found it in Houston,
- 8:48Speaker 1: and they took off with it and they got what
- 8:49Speaker 1: they wanted. Um. The players understand what it was. There's
- 8:53Speaker 1: no secret to that. And and I thought most of
- 8:55Speaker 1: them said the right thing. And then moved on because
- 8:57Speaker 1: you know you were in that locker room last week,
- 8:59Speaker 1: would guys were essentially rolling their eyes and rubbing their
- 9:02Speaker 1: temples and giving you all that stuff when you had
- 9:04Speaker 1: to talk about Yeah, it was getting to the point
- 9:06Speaker 1: where it was getting annoyed. There will be any more
- 9:08Speaker 1: Jalen questions for them, and and and we're we're putting
- 9:12Speaker 1: it to bed today with the show, and hopefully we
- 9:15Speaker 1: don't talk about it, although we might talk about a
- 9:18Speaker 1: little tomorrow with my pick one and pick a game.
- 9:21Speaker 1: We might. It might be Atlanta, the rams you have,
- 9:24Speaker 1: we might. Let's go to big thing three. I think
- 9:26Speaker 1: it's the most important component this weekend. Leonard for averaging
- 9:29Speaker 1: five point one yards per carry, has been the center
- 9:31Speaker 1: of the game plan lately, especially the SpeI. Yeah, and
- 9:34Speaker 1: he's he's third in the NFL in rushing yards and
- 9:36Speaker 1: he's only about forty behind McCaffrey. Now here's the thing,
- 9:39Speaker 1: the Falcon, not the Falcons. The Bengals allowed two and
- 9:44Speaker 1: sixty two rushing yards to the Cardinals two weeks ago.
- 9:46Speaker 1: Last week they gave up to sixty nine. If you
- 9:50Speaker 1: haven't noticed, that's a downward trend on the old charge uh.
- 9:53Speaker 1: The quarterback Lamar Jackson ran for one fifty two. So
- 9:56Speaker 1: the way I see it, Leonards, you have a huge day.
- 9:59Speaker 1: The def ends for the Bengals has not stopped the run.
- 10:02Speaker 1: They're starting corners around Carlos Dunlap, who's their best defensive well,
- 10:06Speaker 1: second best defensive lineman. Gino Atkins is the best um.
- 10:09Speaker 1: But Carlos Dunlap is a force off the edge, has
- 10:12Speaker 1: a knee, didn't play last week. He's not a This
- 10:15Speaker 1: is not a healthy football team and they haven't won
- 10:18Speaker 1: a game yet. I don't know what Flip is gonna do,
- 10:21Speaker 1: but I don't think you have to be you know,
- 10:23Speaker 1: Karnak the Magnificent to understand that what he's going to
- 10:26Speaker 1: do is slam the ball and set up play action.
- 10:29Speaker 1: And Leonard should have a massive day. A jokingly said
- 10:32Speaker 1: career day because that would be two six yards in Denver.
- 10:37Speaker 1: He could have it easily. He defense. He's running so hard,
- 10:41Speaker 1: he's running so smart. For the first time in recent weeks,
- 10:45Speaker 1: I have seen vision on the field from him. Whereas
- 10:49Speaker 1: there were four or five games I could go back
- 10:51Speaker 1: and point to in the last sixteen games he's played
- 10:53Speaker 1: where he missed open holes where he took wrong angles.
- 10:56Speaker 1: He just is playing at a completely different level than
- 10:58Speaker 1: we've seen in his proker rear, and that boats really
- 11:02Speaker 1: well for this franchise. Yeah. I was asked actually yesterday
- 11:05Speaker 1: on a radio call and they were asking what changed
- 11:08Speaker 1: about him? You know, can you go back to a
- 11:09Speaker 1: moment in time or a game that changed, And I,
- 11:12Speaker 1: honestly I said, I think the whole offseason changed. I mean,
- 11:15Speaker 1: we talked about it so much in training camp, through
- 11:17Speaker 1: the wyoming and the training, but I don't think it
- 11:20Speaker 1: was one specific player game where he said all right,
- 11:22Speaker 1: I'm gonna play well again. I'm gonna get back to it.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Jersey Rocky four. Yes you did. Okay, I'm short slightly
- 11:28Speaker 1: surprised that you have. I've seen all the Rockies. So
- 11:30Speaker 1: you know he goes to uh, he goes to Siberia
- 11:32Speaker 1: to train, right, Well, it's the same thing him. He
- 11:35Speaker 1: had to go get his mind right. His body was
- 11:36Speaker 1: going to get right regardless, but he had to go
- 11:37Speaker 1: get his mind right. And you talk to him about
- 11:40Speaker 1: this when you were with him in New Orleans in June.
- 11:43Speaker 1: I'll never forget. We were getting ready to go to
- 11:45Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for that playoff game in and he said, I'm
- 11:48Speaker 1: from New Orleans. I don't like the cold. And then
- 11:52Speaker 1: that's where he goes. If you've never been to Wyoming, Laramie,
- 11:55Speaker 1: Wyoming in January and February, the wind blows at about
- 11:58Speaker 1: forty miles the higher month. It's cold, it's windy, it's snowy.
- 12:04Speaker 1: And that's where Leonard is not because he had to
- 12:06Speaker 1: get his body right. He was going to do that regardless.
- 12:09Speaker 1: He had to go, for lack of a better term,
- 12:11Speaker 1: punish himself right, self flagellation, hitting himself on the back, essentially,
- 12:16Speaker 1: you know, getting himself ready mentally for a punishing season.
- 12:20Speaker 1: He had lost his guaranteed money. He had done it
- 12:22Speaker 1: to himself. He needed to cure what ailed him. There
- 12:26Speaker 1: is nothing like claring me Wyoming to cure what ails
- 12:29Speaker 1: a boy from New Orleans. Um that to me said, Okay,
- 12:32Speaker 1: this guy's gonna come in ready to go. And while
- 12:34Speaker 1: he has had a couple of big games and a
- 12:36Speaker 1: couple of games where the numbers didn't say that was
- 12:38Speaker 1: a really big game, the effort, the way he dug
- 12:41Speaker 1: out extra yards, the way he punished defenders said he's
- 12:45Speaker 1: ready to go. And I think now I don't want
- 12:48Speaker 1: to say this is his team, but it is because
- 12:52Speaker 1: you don't have your quarterback yet. I mean, I know
- 12:54Speaker 1: everyone was on the Min's Humania thing and it's fun
- 12:56Speaker 1: and he may be the long term solution, but the
- 12:58Speaker 1: money says that this is Nick Fole team, but he's
- 13:00Speaker 1: not on the field right um, So to me, this
- 13:03Speaker 1: is the Leondards team. And on the defensive side, is
- 13:05Speaker 1: it Myles team? Yet? I don't think it is. Is
- 13:07Speaker 1: it Calais team? Maybe? You know, but it's hard from
- 13:10Speaker 1: a defensive end spot to to be the you know,
- 13:12Speaker 1: to have it be your team. I think it's Leonards
- 13:14Speaker 1: team and it goes as far as he goes in
- 13:16Speaker 1: Right now, he looks like a train that's just picking
- 13:19Speaker 1: up speed and I wouldn't want to be in front
- 13:21Speaker 1: him this week. No, And I you mentioned him being
- 13:24Speaker 1: especially the voice of the offense and with Minshew, I
- 13:26Speaker 1: think it's difficult for him to say it's his team
- 13:29Speaker 1: because we don't know what's going to happen in a
- 13:31Speaker 1: few weeks. And maybe that does change if we don't
- 13:34Speaker 1: know if it's going to happen, But if he does
- 13:35Speaker 1: become the solution this season, maybe that does change his attitude.
- 13:38Speaker 1: But I feel like for Minshew right now, I'm not
- 13:40Speaker 1: going to say anything. Let's go offense, right, I have
- 13:44Speaker 1: credibility right now now. Yet I mean he's his effort
- 13:48Speaker 1: and his playmaking ability. We've seen it on the sidelines,
- 13:51Speaker 1: saw in Denver in particular, the way that the team
- 13:53Speaker 1: lined up behind him. Here's the remarkable thing about for
- 13:56Speaker 1: net is that a year ago we it was just
- 13:59Speaker 1: a hamstring. We hadn't seen some of the other stuff yet.
- 14:03Speaker 1: But it didn't seem plausible. It didn't seem like he
- 14:06Speaker 1: could ever be the guy. Do you know, just because
- 14:11Speaker 1: there was so much extraneous stuff going on, how could
- 14:14Speaker 1: you trust that it really is? And I think when
- 14:16Speaker 1: the when the season is done, and I think he's
- 14:18Speaker 1: going to end up with a big number this year,
- 14:20Speaker 1: and if this team gets if this team gets into
- 14:23Speaker 1: and listen to what I'm saying here, because I think
- 14:26Speaker 1: this is the important part for this team this year.
- 14:29Speaker 1: If I would have told you that Nick Foles was
- 14:31Speaker 1: going to be lost on the first Sunday of the
- 14:35Speaker 1: season and that Jalen Ramsey would play three games, you'd say,
- 14:38Speaker 1: what chance did they have? Right? These are there two
- 14:40Speaker 1: guys they have a chance to win the next two
- 14:43Speaker 1: and get into the playoff race. I say listen, because
- 14:46Speaker 1: I'm talking about them in November and December being in
- 14:49Speaker 1: a position where we say, hey, if the Jaguars win
- 14:51Speaker 1: this week and the Colts lose and the Raiders lose,
- 14:56Speaker 1: you're starting to play the number game. That's where you
- 14:58Speaker 1: want to be. Would it be great to just charge
- 15:00Speaker 1: ahead and claim the division in early November? You absolutely
- 15:02Speaker 1: is that gonna happen. No, But if they win the
- 15:04Speaker 1: next two, they put themselves in a position where they
- 15:06Speaker 1: can be in contention. And I think that the story
- 15:10Speaker 1: after this season, if they do that, it's going to
- 15:13Speaker 1: be what an amazing transformation, right the Moth to the
- 15:17Speaker 1: Butterfly for Leonard, for net Um, the story that you
- 15:20Speaker 1: did with him that you helped put together with the documentary,
- 15:24Speaker 1: which was very good. If you haven't seen it, it's
- 15:26Speaker 1: on YouTube. Um I think the one after could be
- 15:29Speaker 1: even better. Yeah. I remember the Numbers game in two
- 15:33Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. It was fun. We sat here every Friday
- 15:35Speaker 1: and we said this team wins, if this team loses.
- 15:37Speaker 1: There was there was none of that last what I've said,
- 15:39Speaker 1: the dirty little secret about the NFL is that it's
- 15:41Speaker 1: not about winning championships. That's what happens when you do
- 15:45Speaker 1: the other things right. It's about consistently filling your building,
- 15:49Speaker 1: selling your tickets, in your beer and your hot dogs.
- 15:52Speaker 1: And you do that with a I know, I knew
- 15:54Speaker 1: you would go for that one. Um. It's about that.
- 15:58Speaker 1: And so when you look at the big picture, you
- 16:02Speaker 1: want to be in a position at the at the
- 16:03Speaker 1: end of every season in thanksgiving forward to be in
- 16:07Speaker 1: meaningful games. Meaningful doesn't mean that you're winning the championship.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Meaningful means that you're putting yourself in a position to
- 16:13Speaker 1: be in the playoffs so that people are talking about
- 16:16Speaker 1: you and buying your tickets so they come to see
- 16:18Speaker 1: you play the Bucks and the Colds late in the year,
- 16:21Speaker 1: right as opposed to stay home and watch it on TV,
- 16:24Speaker 1: or find Christmas shopping or whatever other things. Exactly, that's
- 16:29Speaker 1: the dirty little secret of the NFL. It's about the money.
- 16:32Speaker 1: I need to be relevant so that people want to
- 16:34Speaker 1: come see me play. Leonard for net is a big
- 16:37Speaker 1: reason why this team should be relevant late in the season.
- 16:39Speaker 1: All the other players nothing against it. He If you
- 16:42Speaker 1: go to the playoffs this year, he's going to be
- 16:44Speaker 1: your m v P. Yeah, I agree. All right, let's
- 16:46Speaker 1: take a break and when we come back, we'll go
- 16:47Speaker 1: around the locker room from yesterday. Jalen Ramsey was a
- 16:51Speaker 1: hot topic, among other things. When we come back on
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- 18:39Speaker 1: of my computers recording these things now? Is that your computer?
- 18:44Speaker 1: Or is that the Russians who are using off some server?
- 18:48Speaker 1: Sorry feeling Ukraine somewhere? All right? Locker room, locker room,
- 18:53Speaker 1: very interesting place yesterday. I think from the short time
- 18:57Speaker 1: that I was in there yesterday, I think I got
- 18:59Speaker 1: the by above. All right, let's get this over with. Yeah,
- 19:02Speaker 1: I think there was maybe a message that the team
- 19:05Speaker 1: was told because they all had similar and Doug said
- 19:10Speaker 1: in his news conference, I'm not telling you what to say.
- 19:13Speaker 1: I'm doing what I'm saying, and that the vibe was
- 19:15Speaker 1: and what you probably should in your own words say
- 19:18Speaker 1: so that we're all on the same parage, on the
- 19:20Speaker 1: same page here. All right, Let's start with Will Richardson Jr.
- 19:23Speaker 1: Who has kind of become the spokesman of the offensive line.
- 19:26Speaker 1: God we needed one, yes, And normally I know Brandon
- 19:29Speaker 1: Linder always likes to give offensive line and a hard
- 19:31Speaker 1: time when they talk to the media, but I think
- 19:32Speaker 1: Will Richardson genuinely enjoys it. And we were talking about
- 19:36Speaker 1: all three phases having to play well on Sunday. Will
- 19:38Speaker 1: Richardson says it best. I mean confidence. The biggest thing
- 19:41Speaker 1: for us now is just to keep pushing in um
- 19:43Speaker 1: just you know, just as a locker room. Just stay
- 19:45Speaker 1: as one unit, you know, um um. I think these
- 19:48Speaker 1: last few games we just struggle getting all three all
- 19:50Speaker 1: three UM teams to go together, defense, offensive, special teams.
- 19:54Speaker 1: So I feel like going into this game, the biggest
- 19:56Speaker 1: key for us is just to get going, all three units,
- 19:58Speaker 1: to just get going and getting started. Yeah, Brandon Lender
- 20:02Speaker 1: walked by when he was doing this and said, oh
- 20:04Speaker 1: my gosh, look at all the people talking to you. Well, yeah,
- 20:07Speaker 1: Brandon needs to just shut up and keep moving. You
- 20:10Speaker 1: can't have you cannot You must have offensive lineman who speak,
- 20:14Speaker 1: or at least one who speaks. Cam Robinson will speak,
- 20:17Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor will speak. If Andrew Norwell and Brandon Lenda
- 20:20Speaker 1: don't want to, then don't. But the other three guys
- 20:22Speaker 1: need to talk because you need to get the story
- 20:24Speaker 1: of one of the most important aspects of any game,
- 20:27Speaker 1: and it's winning up front. Um. He was talking about
- 20:30Speaker 1: all three phases again, not to knock Cincinnati, you know,
- 20:35Speaker 1: O and six. I think this would be a close
- 20:37Speaker 1: game early because that's the way the NFL goes, right.
- 20:40Speaker 1: They're a desperate team. They're desperate to get their first win. Um.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Although their season is essentially lost when you start ohin six,
- 20:46Speaker 1: you don't make the playoffs. They're desperate because they have
- 20:49Speaker 1: a bunch of young players that are trying to figure
- 20:51Speaker 1: out is this you know, am I gonna make this?
- 20:52Speaker 1: Or they gonna bring in other players? Where am I?
- 20:55Speaker 1: But then the Jaguars will slowly pull away because they're
- 20:57Speaker 1: healthier and the roster is better. At this point in time,
- 21:00Speaker 1: so offensively, defensively, I haven't really looked at the Bengal
- 21:04Speaker 1: special teams, although Jody Camills has done a nice job
- 21:06Speaker 1: with this group this year. I would have to think
- 21:08Speaker 1: that this would be the perfect game, at the perfect
- 21:11Speaker 1: time for the Jaguars to go get all three of
- 21:13Speaker 1: those things and then slowly but surely pull away from
- 21:16Speaker 1: the Bengals in the second half and had a convincing win. Yeah.
- 21:19Speaker 1: And we've been waiting for it because every single week
- 21:22Speaker 1: it's been offense, good defense not good Well you and
- 21:25Speaker 1: and and you'll go back to that. I mean, you'll
- 21:27Speaker 1: have days and the next week they get Sam Donald,
- 21:29Speaker 1: who you know will have a couple of warm ups
- 21:31Speaker 1: and he's an exciting young quarterback and he can make
- 21:33Speaker 1: life hard on you could make live hard. Yeah, absolutely,
- 21:36Speaker 1: So you have to go and find a rhythm and
- 21:38Speaker 1: use the game, uh and take what they give you
- 21:41Speaker 1: in a sense um, But this week they'll be able
- 21:44Speaker 1: to dictate what they're gonna do. All right, Let's go
- 21:46Speaker 1: to linebacker Miles Jack, who is one of Jalen's best buddies.
- 21:50Speaker 1: We all know that, but was in support of a
- 21:52Speaker 1: J boy and Trey Herne for how they handled the
- 21:54Speaker 1: past three weeks. I had a lot of confidence at
- 21:57Speaker 1: a j and then Terry. I just feel like Ry
- 21:59Speaker 1: was getting better and better each a week. He was
- 22:01Speaker 1: making plays, contestant bass and learning a lot. So we
- 22:06Speaker 1: just kind of figured Jalen eventually, maybe after the bio week,
- 22:09Speaker 1: would have after the deadline when it came back and
- 22:12Speaker 1: played for us. That was the biggest thing that I
- 22:14Speaker 1: took away is that Myles Shack was he said that
- 22:17Speaker 1: multiple times that he was convinced that after London, after
- 22:20Speaker 1: the bye, Jalen will be back playing and all this
- 22:23Speaker 1: would be hush hush. And obviously, so Miles is a
- 22:26Speaker 1: guy that I think could really benefit from Jalen leaving UM.
- 22:30Speaker 1: And I think Miles is a guy who's benefited from
- 22:32Speaker 1: Telvin Smith leaving. Miles is a phenomenal football player and
- 22:36Speaker 1: he's a great young guy. But he I thought he
- 22:40Speaker 1: kind of fell into the spell of those two guys.
- 22:41Speaker 1: They were more dominant personalities and it was easy for
- 22:45Speaker 1: him not to have to lead and just let them lead.
- 22:47Speaker 1: And neither one of those guys is a leader. And
- 22:51Speaker 1: now you're going to put Miles in a situation where
- 22:54Speaker 1: he'll have Calais in front of him leading right and
- 22:56Speaker 1: a j behind him leading. I think it will You'll
- 22:59Speaker 1: see a significant improvement on the field and in the
- 23:03Speaker 1: locker room and the way that he acts. I think
- 23:06Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a great move for Miles Jack.
- 23:08Speaker 1: I think it'd be great for the Jaguars to have
- 23:10Speaker 1: Jalen and Telvin's influence, which was not always positive out
- 23:14Speaker 1: of that room. Yeah. I think it's gonna force Smiles
- 23:16Speaker 1: Jack to grow up a little bit. Well that's yeah,
- 23:18Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, and you just cut through it.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Good for you, because if you ask anyone in the
- 23:22Speaker 1: locker room. I was asking Marcel Darias on All Access
- 23:24Speaker 1: last week, who's the funniest guy in the locker room,
- 23:26Speaker 1: it's always Miles and he is. He is hilarious, But
- 23:29Speaker 1: he's never not hilarious at the times. Is the problem.
- 23:32Speaker 1: And he never had to be because you always had
- 23:34Speaker 1: someone else that was willing to scream. And now he's
- 23:37Speaker 1: going to have to be the guy that has it
- 23:40Speaker 1: all together. He's not gonna be a lean on those
- 23:41Speaker 1: other two. Um, and I'll say it again, Talvin Smith
- 23:43Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey were not often good influences in that
- 23:47Speaker 1: locker room and now they're gone and it has a
- 23:49Speaker 1: chance to grow to a much higher character locker room,
- 23:52Speaker 1: and Miles can be a part of that. Speaking of
- 23:55Speaker 1: high character a J boy, we spoke to him as
- 23:57Speaker 1: well yesterday. He took us into the team meaning round
- 24:00Speaker 1: of course, saying stay focused. Yeah, definitely. You know he
- 24:04Speaker 1: addressed everything, you know, the offening in a room, everything
- 24:06Speaker 1: that went on. But you know, he told us that
- 24:08Speaker 1: we gotta stay focused, stay on tesh, you know, just
- 24:11Speaker 1: keep everything in front of us and just worry about
- 24:13Speaker 1: what's coming with Cincinnatis. What an awesome opportunity for a
- 24:18Speaker 1: J boy the season. He's making fifteen and a half
- 24:21Speaker 1: million dollars this year and a similar number next year
- 24:25Speaker 1: on the deal, and the Jaguars now have great motivation
- 24:28Speaker 1: for him to play well and keep him. I think
- 24:31Speaker 1: that he was absolutely out the door with that number
- 24:35Speaker 1: as long as Jalen was here. Um, they need him,
- 24:38Speaker 1: they needed to play well. He's capable of playing well.
- 24:40Speaker 1: And when your number is called, you know, if you're
- 24:43Speaker 1: the understudy to the lead in Hamilton's and the lead
- 24:46Speaker 1: gets sick, you better be able to sing, right, You
- 24:50Speaker 1: better be able to come out there and and sing
- 24:53Speaker 1: um and I know all the songs to that, by
- 24:54Speaker 1: the way, so I'm not gonna sing. I'm trying to
- 24:57Speaker 1: think of one, right, No, no, no, we would not
- 25:01Speaker 1: do that. He is now the lead, and you know
- 25:03Speaker 1: he's got to have a singing voice tuned up and
- 25:05Speaker 1: ready to sing. Alexander Hamilton's right, gonna be ready to go.
- 25:09Speaker 1: I think he is, though. I'm going to see that
- 25:11Speaker 1: in London, so I'm kind of excited. I just found
- 25:12Speaker 1: out this morning, so I wanted to well, no, but
- 25:15Speaker 1: really he's he the under study always has to be
- 25:18Speaker 1: ready to be the next man up, and he is
- 25:20Speaker 1: now going to be with the spotlight on him, and
- 25:23Speaker 1: he's capable of it. He can play these guys. Is
- 25:25Speaker 1: he going to shut him down like Jalen? Probably not,
- 25:27Speaker 1: But will he play well and and give the Jaguars
- 25:30Speaker 1: a chance to win? Absolutely. We really haven't seen many
- 25:33Speaker 1: opportunities for him to go against someone like an A. J.
- 25:36Speaker 1: Green or Julio Jones. And that was and that was
- 25:38Speaker 1: a point of contention, you know, at times in that
- 25:40Speaker 1: locker room he wanted to He came in here as
- 25:43Speaker 1: the high paid corner. He was the guy who was
- 25:45Speaker 1: rising in Houston and made a decision to come here.
- 25:47Speaker 1: He saw himself as one B. Jalen was one A.
- 25:50Speaker 1: He wasn't two. He was one B. He is now
- 25:53Speaker 1: one A and there will be no doubt about that.
- 25:56Speaker 1: There will be no discussions on the practice field between
- 25:59Speaker 1: he and Trey Herndon like they were between he and
- 26:01Speaker 1: Jylen Ramsey last year. He's number one. He's got the personality,
- 26:05Speaker 1: the character, He's got everything he needs to be one
- 26:08Speaker 1: A here and if he is, he's got a great
- 26:10Speaker 1: shot not only playing here next year, but earning an
- 26:13Speaker 1: extension and getting, you know too, three more years here.
- 26:16Speaker 1: He is that guy, that's for sure. The other guy
- 26:19Speaker 1: is Klais Campbell, who of course had a lot to
- 26:21Speaker 1: say about Jalen Ramsey, but of course was in positive
- 26:23Speaker 1: fashion as always. You know, I'm all about in the moment,
- 26:27Speaker 1: you know, and I believe this team has what the
- 26:30Speaker 1: Texas to right, uh to do some good things, you know,
- 26:32Speaker 1: and I mean we can be special, you know. So
- 26:35Speaker 1: mo mentality is, you know, just get everybody here to
- 26:38Speaker 1: be the best I can be good, buy in and
- 26:40Speaker 1: uh continue to sacrifice and do whatever we can to
- 26:43Speaker 1: be the best we can be so we can win
- 26:44Speaker 1: on Sunday. He seems a little subdued there, was he Yeah,
- 26:48Speaker 1: I mean he also he spoke for I think seven minutes,
- 26:51Speaker 1: which is very long for a locker room, but it
- 26:53Speaker 1: was every single medium member that is in Jacksonville was
- 26:55Speaker 1: there at that moment for calais Um. Yeah, he spoke
- 26:58Speaker 1: a very long time, very long, odd out answers about
- 27:01Speaker 1: this situation. Was not quick reaction, and I think I
- 27:04Speaker 1: think it was a trying day for him, honestly, because
- 27:06Speaker 1: he did seem pretty tired there, and I think he's
- 27:08Speaker 1: been talking a lot about the Jalen Ramsey situation. I
- 27:11Speaker 1: think he wants to move on, but he was honest
- 27:13Speaker 1: that he's a talented player when we want him on
- 27:16Speaker 1: the team, of course, but I also think he's kind
- 27:18Speaker 1: of glad, yeah, to take that irritant out of the
- 27:22Speaker 1: equation and now they can just focus. But so we
- 27:24Speaker 1: talk all the time about Russian cover working hand in hand, right,
- 27:28Speaker 1: getting the pass rush, forcing the errant throws, having the
- 27:33Speaker 1: coverage giving extra time holding the quarterback in the pocket
- 27:37Speaker 1: so that the past rush can get there. This is
- 27:39Speaker 1: gonna go a bit out of whack now right, you're
- 27:41Speaker 1: seeing the last well, no, no, no, not something I'm
- 27:44Speaker 1: going to say, just the Russian cover. Um, we've seen
- 27:49Speaker 1: a good mix here because you had Jalen Ramsey behind
- 27:51Speaker 1: him and when he was on the field, you got
- 27:55Speaker 1: extra time to get there. So the reality of it
- 27:58Speaker 1: is now that you're going to have to get more
- 28:00Speaker 1: from your pass rush. They're gonna have to be quicker,
- 28:02Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be more aggressive, they're gonna have
- 28:05Speaker 1: to have better moves, they're gonna have to be more
- 28:07Speaker 1: spot on because you're gonna have to help Trey Herndon
- 28:09Speaker 1: on the back end. Right, these guys are gonna need
- 28:11Speaker 1: a little bit more because remember now, a couple of
- 28:13Speaker 1: years ago you had a terrific secondary with Barry Church
- 28:17Speaker 1: and two Shaun Gibson and a J and Jalen and
- 28:21Speaker 1: now it's just a ju Jared Wilson's in his first
- 28:24Speaker 1: season as a starter. Ronnie Harrison has the look of
- 28:27Speaker 1: of a special talent, but he's not there yet. And
- 28:30Speaker 1: now you've got Trey Herndon, who the Jaguars really like
- 28:32Speaker 1: and they've been grooming to step into a rule. And
- 28:35Speaker 1: then you've got d J. Herndon of course, all right,
- 28:37Speaker 1: g Jay Hayden, who is um is a nice player
- 28:39Speaker 1: as well and really has played well this year. You're
- 28:41Speaker 1: gonna have to have more rush. You're gonna have to
- 28:43Speaker 1: give those guys a little extra help, right, And it
- 28:46Speaker 1: looks like a totally different so instead of it's you know,
- 28:50Speaker 1: and then that's not a knock on the secondary. But
- 28:52Speaker 1: they're playing together now, they but they have six games together.
- 28:55Speaker 1: They're gonna need a little bit more time. So guys
- 28:58Speaker 1: like Calais and Unique and Josh and Marcel and Taven
- 29:03Speaker 1: and Abriy have got to be points, you know, on
- 29:05Speaker 1: their game in order to help a secondary. You will
- 29:08Speaker 1: see on Sunday against the Bengals would come back some
- 29:11Speaker 1: top tweets Jalen Ramsey style of course in Bengals to
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- 31:00Speaker 1: tweets of the top tweets, tweets, top tweets, all right,
- 31:10Speaker 1: time for top tweets. Of course they're all about Jalen Ramsey.
- 31:14Speaker 1: What else but Twitter be talking about these days someone
- 31:18Speaker 1: else's problem. And of course the top tweets we have
- 31:21Speaker 1: to include our guy Leonard for Net because he is
- 31:23Speaker 1: the king of Twitter. But it's always in his own language.
- 31:26Speaker 1: I had to look up what some of this meant,
- 31:28Speaker 1: because he's basically saying he walked into the locker room
- 31:32Speaker 1: and he saw Jalen Ramsey's locker empty, and he was
- 31:35Speaker 1: very upset about it. But I love how he ends
- 31:38Speaker 1: up with y'all rams, sad faces. I don't understand it. Yeah,
- 31:44Speaker 1: I walked in the locker room. Yes, my partners locker
- 31:49Speaker 1: was cleared out today, y'all Rams. It took him thanks
- 31:53Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I mean there, I get the sense
- 31:57Speaker 1: a couple of days ago that there were some swipes
- 31:58Speaker 1: going back and forth between these two and brothers do that,
- 32:01Speaker 1: you know? I mean, it just happens, Uh, they'll be
- 32:03Speaker 1: friends along beyond this. Again, I go back to that
- 32:06Speaker 1: picture of those two guys getting on the plane to
- 32:08Speaker 1: go to Pittsburgh, and I remember thinking so vividly, that's
- 32:11Speaker 1: the future, the cornerstone on each side of the ball.
- 32:14Speaker 1: And things changed fast in this league. And if you
- 32:16Speaker 1: played with him and you enjoyed it. Plus having a
- 32:20Speaker 1: guy like that on the other side, having a guy
- 32:22Speaker 1: you know is the best at what he does, it
- 32:24Speaker 1: makes it easier on everyone else to play their best
- 32:26Speaker 1: and do their job. And now they've got to rely
- 32:29Speaker 1: on a young player in Trey Herndon. It's not as
- 32:30Speaker 1: easy to do. They'll help him, um, but I get
- 32:34Speaker 1: Leonard's sadness. Whatever it takes. They are both of them.
- 32:39Speaker 1: You have friends from college that you stay in touch with.
- 32:41Speaker 1: You don't get to see him as much as you
- 32:42Speaker 1: once did. It was hard to leave college, leave the
- 32:45Speaker 1: sorority house behind, right, same thing. It's a big fraternity
- 32:49Speaker 1: in there. Yes, it is all right. So national media
- 32:53Speaker 1: perspective of the Jalen Ramsy trade, there's two sides of it,
- 32:56Speaker 1: and it is like a hundred zero it's yes, absolutely,
- 32:59Speaker 1: they got the cornerback in the league. Or oh my gosh,
- 33:02Speaker 1: did the Rams overpaid for this? Let's see it. Skip
- 33:04Speaker 1: Bayliss is on the side I just talked about the
- 33:07Speaker 1: Rams just paid way too much for Jalen Ramsey, another
- 33:10Speaker 1: talented me guy who will not cure all that ails
- 33:14Speaker 1: them hub running back O line and over inflated expectations
- 33:19Speaker 1: which just screw because of him. He spot on, I
- 33:21Speaker 1: mean he is spot on. Yesterday after I already mentioned
- 33:26Speaker 1: Dion Sanders out in front of Jalen talking about how
- 33:29Speaker 1: he wasn't going to be there very long, which was
- 33:31Speaker 1: one major red flag. The other is how much better
- 33:35Speaker 1: does Jalen Ramsey make? Um Aaron Donald? Aaron Donald, he doesn't.
- 33:42Speaker 1: He's already the best player in the league right. The
- 33:44Speaker 1: problem that they have, in talking to Sam Farmer yesterday
- 33:46Speaker 1: was they don't have a Dominican sue any longer, and
- 33:48Speaker 1: so Aaron Donald, who is not a run stuffer per se,
- 33:52Speaker 1: but a penetrator and a guy who disrupts things, he's
- 33:55Speaker 1: now got to spend more time worrying about helping the
- 33:58Speaker 1: young guy next to him. He doesn't help their running game,
- 34:01Speaker 1: which is hampered right now with Todd Gurley's injury. Um
- 34:04Speaker 1: their quarterback is not playing well, you know. In fact,
- 34:07Speaker 1: it's funny how you look at these guys this year.
- 34:09Speaker 1: In a way, there are a lot like last year's Jaguars.
- 34:11Speaker 1: Right when Leonard Fournette got hurt, all of a sudden,
- 34:13Speaker 1: Blake Bortles was no longer the Blake Bortles from He
- 34:17Speaker 1: didn't have the running game to carry him. Any injuries
- 34:20Speaker 1: on the offensive line and they've got their's now in
- 34:22Speaker 1: l A are magnified and makes that quarterback Jared Goff's
- 34:26Speaker 1: job that much more difficult. The injury to Todd Gurley
- 34:31Speaker 1: has really crippled the offense, and in doing that, it's
- 34:34Speaker 1: put more pressure on the defense. And the defense had
- 34:37Speaker 1: Marcus Peters and the keep to leave guys. They traded
- 34:40Speaker 1: for former role pro to leave goes on I R
- 34:43Speaker 1: and Peters goes to Baltimore and apparently he was burned
- 34:49Speaker 1: long passed after long passed after long pass in losses
- 34:53Speaker 1: to Seattle and Tampa, and they just didn't feel like
- 34:55Speaker 1: they could live with it. Well that that won't be
- 34:56Speaker 1: the problem with Jalen on the field, although he'll get
- 34:58Speaker 1: burned for four to yards here and there, it happens
- 35:01Speaker 1: um but he won't make the same mistake twice. But
- 35:04Speaker 1: it doesn't, to me make them a better team. And
- 35:06Speaker 1: here's where it might make them worse. They now do
- 35:12Speaker 1: not have cap room at all, and they don't have depth,
- 35:16Speaker 1: and they don't have young players because they don't have
- 35:19Speaker 1: draft picks. And it's the and this is the point.
- 35:23Speaker 1: You don't build through free agency. We've seen that here.
- 35:25Speaker 1: Sam Farmers said that's their approach right now. Okay, but
- 35:28Speaker 1: they're going to change it because when you build through
- 35:30Speaker 1: free agency, you have many more misrs. It's kind of
- 35:32Speaker 1: like if you're gonna hit three thirty right in baseball,
- 35:37Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna strike out more than six times
- 35:39Speaker 1: out of every ten um. That's not a great winning percentage.
- 35:42Speaker 1: In free agency, it's not a winning percentage um. And
- 35:45Speaker 1: so you go back to the draft and they don't
- 35:48Speaker 1: have picks. First round picks are talented players who played
- 35:51Speaker 1: a fixed cost for you. They don't have them. They
- 35:54Speaker 1: haven't had them. They're in trouble when these guys either
- 35:58Speaker 1: they can't afford them any longer, or they get hurt,
- 36:00Speaker 1: or they can't play any longer, because you don't have
- 36:03Speaker 1: those first round picks to bring in after them. It
- 36:05Speaker 1: is a really risky move for less Nie. They are
- 36:09Speaker 1: swinging for the fences, and in doing so, I'm not
- 36:13Speaker 1: sure they've got what it takes to win. If the
- 36:15Speaker 1: running back and the quarterback are the problem. Yeah, they're
- 36:19Speaker 1: saying now time, and the problem with win now times
- 36:22Speaker 1: a hundred is you haven't solved your real issues. Alright,
- 36:26Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about Shod Khan's comments yesterday, which
- 36:29Speaker 1: were great, by the way, at the NFL league meetings
- 36:32Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale. Did you understand them? I did? Well,
- 36:35Speaker 1: then explain them. Okay, Well, first we have to bring
- 36:37Speaker 1: up Mr John Oser, who made it to the show today.
- 36:40Speaker 1: How nice of him, he tweets out. Credit all goes
- 36:42Speaker 1: to our players for their professional approach through this situation.
- 36:46Speaker 1: It did not go unnoticed. Now it's time to turn
- 36:49Speaker 1: the attention again to what's most important, the Jackson Mill Jacks. Well,
- 36:53Speaker 1: I got this. I thought we were talking about the
- 36:55Speaker 1: one from Jeremy Fowler from ESPN where it was you
- 36:58Speaker 1: know the rules, you gotta call the Jags so I
- 37:00Speaker 1: don't get locked out of my own stadium. I didn't
- 37:02Speaker 1: quite understand that had a theory on it, but I
- 37:04Speaker 1: didn't quite no, No, I didn't get okay, well, no,
- 37:06Speaker 1: I get no. Look and and he's right. You didn't
- 37:12Speaker 1: hear a lot of griping. And they didn't let it
- 37:14Speaker 1: become a distraction. The Jaguars did handle this situation about
- 37:18Speaker 1: as good as you possibly could. Um. They were talking
- 37:21Speaker 1: a lot in the media, and that's probably why Dave
- 37:23Speaker 1: and Tom didn't come out and say anything beforehand, because
- 37:26Speaker 1: that would possibly just inflame the situation, lessen the leverage
- 37:31Speaker 1: that they had, create a more difficult situation for everyone involved. Um.
- 37:36Speaker 1: I'd like to hear from them now. I'd like to
- 37:38Speaker 1: know more about how it happened. Um, But they've said
- 37:42Speaker 1: all they're gonna say, and that's the way they do business.
- 37:43Speaker 1: And that's fine. Um, that works for them. This situation.
- 37:48Speaker 1: The Jaguars never let it become a circus. Jalen made
- 37:51Speaker 1: a circus of it, but they never let it become
- 37:54Speaker 1: a circus. Despite the tickets that we had in here
- 37:56Speaker 1: yesterday from John. They never let this. They never let
- 37:59Speaker 1: this thing get out of control. They were always measured
- 38:02Speaker 1: in their response, and they waited, and they would have
- 38:05Speaker 1: kept waiting had had the Rams not come with the
- 38:09Speaker 1: deal and they did, and they came out of it
- 38:11Speaker 1: with two ones and a four. And after reading the
- 38:15Speaker 1: comments of Dion Sanders, which had to come from Jalen,
- 38:18Speaker 1: he wouldn't have said it if Jalen hadn't said, Hey,
- 38:20Speaker 1: here's what I'm thinking, right, because Dean Sanders carries Jalen
- 38:24Speaker 1: Ramsey's water. So um, they had to be smiling even bigger.
- 38:28Speaker 1: We got rid of that problem. We have more salary
- 38:31Speaker 1: cat flexibility to keep yunique and got way if that's
- 38:33Speaker 1: what we want to do, and I'm hearing they want
- 38:35Speaker 1: to do that. Um, and we have draft picks that
- 38:38Speaker 1: give us a chance to really launch ourselves into the future.
- 38:41Speaker 1: So smiles all around. As Sean conn also said in
- 38:45Speaker 1: his comments, the Jackson and Jaguars are doing just fine today,
- 38:48Speaker 1: thank you for asking, and they could do in the
- 38:51Speaker 1: next two weeks if they can come up with a
- 38:52Speaker 1: couple of winds and head to London. Four and four
- 38:54Speaker 1: fine will be an understatement for how they are absolutely
- 38:57Speaker 1: all right when we come back. Bengals team reporter Marissa
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- 40:45Speaker 1: Drive Time Thursday morning, brought to you by the Fields
- 40:48Speaker 1: Auto Group as we welcome in Bengals team reporter Marissa
- 40:52Speaker 1: concept Pelly. Thank you for waking up early for us,
- 40:54Speaker 1: Thank you for the late notice, and thanks for joining
- 40:57Speaker 1: us absolutely. Thank you guys so much for having me.
- 41:01Speaker 1: Of course, so tell us what is going on with
- 41:04Speaker 1: the Bengals. Well, I'm sure, as most people are aware,
- 41:09Speaker 1: it's been a little bit of a rough start for
- 41:12Speaker 1: the team this season, beginning to your own six and
- 41:15Speaker 1: just you know, having some struggles on offense, especially in
- 41:19Speaker 1: the first tackle of games, and you know, really being
- 41:21Speaker 1: uh quite banged up and feeling the injury bug pretty
- 41:25Speaker 1: early on the season. If there's one injury that has
- 41:29Speaker 1: hamstrung this football team, which one is it? I mean,
- 41:32Speaker 1: when you lose a guy like Drake Kirkpatrick, and then
- 41:34Speaker 1: you lose William Jackson that that's that'll do it to
- 41:37Speaker 1: the defense? Is it a j Green and his explosive
- 41:42Speaker 1: potential that that has been lacking, or offensive line? If
- 41:45Speaker 1: you have to pick one guy, they kind of pulled
- 41:48Speaker 1: the rug out from underneath the start of this season
- 41:49Speaker 1: for the Bengals, which one would it be? You know,
- 41:52Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to early on over in
- 41:54Speaker 1: the summer when they lost first round draft pick left
- 41:57Speaker 1: tackle Jonah Williams, But basically the season, it's yet to
- 42:00Speaker 1: be seen if he'll be he'll be able to return
- 42:02Speaker 1: at all at some point in December. But when you
- 42:05Speaker 1: lose someone that you already have um struggles on the
- 42:09Speaker 1: offensive line and bringing in different pieces this year's when
- 42:12Speaker 1: you lose a first round, eleventh overall talent like a
- 42:14Speaker 1: Joonah Williams, already you're hamstrung a little bit at offensive line,
- 42:18Speaker 1: and then when you're next string Corty Glenn goes back
- 42:21Speaker 1: to in the left tackle and now he's been out
- 42:24Speaker 1: for the first six games of the season, so you're
- 42:26Speaker 1: already on your third string left tackle. I think that
- 42:28Speaker 1: has hands found the position that has really hurt the
- 42:31Speaker 1: Bengals this season. Now, good news for the team is
- 42:33Speaker 1: Courty Glenn has been cleared from concussion protocol and he
- 42:37Speaker 1: did return to practice yesterday. Yet to be seen though,
- 42:40Speaker 1: if we will see him on Sunday. If that's not
- 42:42Speaker 1: the case, if he doesn't plan on Sunday, lay down
- 42:44Speaker 1: to that third string of fourth string left tackle again. So,
- 42:47Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, your first year head coach, said the other
- 42:51Speaker 1: day that there weren't many teams that he thought we're
- 42:55Speaker 1: fighting harder than his team. Obviously, you see that front
- 43:00Speaker 1: and center every day on the practice field. Who is
- 43:03Speaker 1: it that's leading that charge? Which is it Andy Dalton
- 43:06Speaker 1: on the offensive side? Why is this team fighting more
- 43:09Speaker 1: than most other teams in Zach Taylor's estimation, I would
- 43:14Speaker 1: say it's because the players completely have bought into Zach
- 43:18Speaker 1: and his system. And it's really more than just one guy.
- 43:20Speaker 1: It's all of those veteran guys you mentioned Andy Dalton.
- 43:24Speaker 1: You see Geno Atkins leading by example, even though he
- 43:27Speaker 1: can be quieter at times. Uh. I think Sean Williams
- 43:30Speaker 1: has done a fantastic job of being and standing up
- 43:33Speaker 1: and being one of those leaders. Even a Giovanni Bernard,
- 43:36Speaker 1: who isn't a starting running back, but you know he
- 43:39Speaker 1: has that captain's patch on for a reason. So all
- 43:42Speaker 1: these veteran guys have bought into Zach and the culture
- 43:45Speaker 1: and the change in culture that he wanted to bring
- 43:48Speaker 1: in to the Bengals this season, and it's in the show.
- 43:51Speaker 1: These guys aren't giving up. They've been in a handful
- 43:53Speaker 1: of close games this season and just you know, kind
- 43:55Speaker 1: of waiting for um, you know, the tides to kind
- 43:58Speaker 1: of turn in their favor when it comes to two
- 44:00Speaker 1: calls and plays going a different way. What's going on
- 44:03Speaker 1: with A J. Green and his injury. I know we
- 44:05Speaker 1: were all looking forward to the Jalen Ramsey A J.
- 44:08Speaker 1: Green matchup that now is no longer happening on both
- 44:10Speaker 1: sides of what's going on with his injury. That's true,
- 44:13Speaker 1: we could get that next week though we know to sure, yes,
- 44:16Speaker 1: but A J has been progressing. Um. He has returned
- 44:19Speaker 1: in a limited capacity to practice over the past two weeks.
- 44:23Speaker 1: Was held out of practice yesterday and was supposed to
- 44:25Speaker 1: run route Sunday pregame in Baltimore. He did not. So, UM,
- 44:30Speaker 1: we haven't received official word if there's been any type
- 44:32Speaker 1: of setback. Zach just keeps. You know, he's been going
- 44:35Speaker 1: the course and has been progressing each week. So at
- 44:40Speaker 1: this point in time, we do not know when he
- 44:42Speaker 1: will return. We were hoping on our target that it
- 44:44Speaker 1: will be some point within the next um week and
- 44:46Speaker 1: then we have the bye after playing the Rams next week,
- 44:49Speaker 1: so it could even potentially be after the bye week
- 44:51Speaker 1: in week ten that he would return. First. When you're
- 44:54Speaker 1: looking for your first win, especially in October, it's so
- 44:57Speaker 1: easy just to to focus on and what isn't going right?
- 45:01Speaker 1: But tell our viewers what is going right? What what
- 45:05Speaker 1: can the Bengals hang their hat on that gives them
- 45:07Speaker 1: a chance weekend and week out. You know, I have
- 45:11Speaker 1: to say I'm gonna pinpoint two things. One of actually
- 45:13Speaker 1: being our defense. I know the run. The run defense
- 45:17Speaker 1: has been a struggle point for this team this season.
- 45:20Speaker 1: But when you look overall, especially in our secondary, Drake
- 45:23Speaker 1: Kirkpatrick was having a fantastic season until he went out
- 45:27Speaker 1: with injury last week. And it's unfortunate people. He's already
- 45:30Speaker 1: been ruled out for Sunday, along with our other starting
- 45:32Speaker 1: cornerbacks William Jackson's So the secondary, uh, it's gonna be
- 45:36Speaker 1: a bit a bit of hindered um this weekend. But
- 45:39Speaker 1: you know, outside of that, Seawan Williams and Jesse Bates
- 45:42Speaker 1: and the stafety positions to have been having a nice season.
- 45:44Speaker 1: So I would say our secondary on the defensive side
- 45:47Speaker 1: has been a bit of a bright spot. And even
- 45:49Speaker 1: when you look at our receivers, it's tough when you
- 45:51Speaker 1: lose a guy as talented as a J. Green and
- 45:54Speaker 1: then John Ross, who had a nice couple of games
- 45:57Speaker 1: to start the season, he goes out with an injury.
- 45:59Speaker 1: You of Tyler Boyd and then second year receiver On
- 46:02Speaker 1: Tape stepping up and on Tape seems to make every
- 46:05Speaker 1: contested catch that comes his way. Must have some kind
- 46:08Speaker 1: of extra sticky blue or something on those hands of
- 46:10Speaker 1: his because he doesn't have very many jobs. He's making
- 46:13Speaker 1: a lot of catches here. So Tyler Boyd and audentate
- 46:15Speaker 1: on the receiving end, Tyler Boyd is on pace to
- 46:18Speaker 1: have the most receptions in team history um testing t
- 46:22Speaker 1: J Houshmanza if he keeps up the past that he's
- 46:25Speaker 1: at right now. So him and on Tage is you know,
- 46:27Speaker 1: stepping in for the absence of a j and John Ross.
- 46:29Speaker 1: So when a J does return, it'll be a nice
- 46:32Speaker 1: welcome signed to be a receiving corps there there's always
- 46:35Speaker 1: positives no matter what you get the game day, and
- 46:38Speaker 1: in the NFL, anyone can win. Yep, that's what makes
- 46:41Speaker 1: it absolutely well. Thanks so much Merissa for your time.
- 46:44Speaker 1: We appreciate it, and we will see you on Sunday
- 46:47Speaker 1: and Cincinnati, Yes, thank you both. Looking forward to seeing
- 46:50Speaker 1: you guys Sunday. All right, Sea, thank you so much.
- 46:52Speaker 1: And the Jaggards know it too. I mean they understand
- 46:54Speaker 1: that this Bengals team is decimated when you lose your
- 46:57Speaker 1: starting corners. Yeah, right, that's that is a and and
- 47:02Speaker 1: and we mentioned Carlos Dunlab and the injuries they've had
- 47:05Speaker 1: on the offensive line. The right guard John Miller is injured.
- 47:07Speaker 1: Now they're having to move guys around h A. J.
- 47:10Speaker 1: Green not playing. I mean, imagine going into a game
- 47:12Speaker 1: and not having d Jr. Right and what that would
- 47:15Speaker 1: mean to Gardner minshew. Um, they understand the spite all
- 47:18Speaker 1: of that. If they don't go up there dialed in,
- 47:21Speaker 1: tuned up, however you want to term it, ready to go,
- 47:23Speaker 1: then get beat. If they go in there, no matter what,
- 47:26Speaker 1: it's going to be close for a time. If they
- 47:28Speaker 1: play their best football, they should pull away in the
- 47:30Speaker 1: second half, absolutely all right, And that is our show,
- 47:33Speaker 1: Jack's Drive Time Thursday morning. Stay tuned. The dug Room
- 47:36Speaker 1: Show and Happy are coming up this afternoon and we'll
- 47:38Speaker 1: be back with John Osier and head coach Dug Rowne
- 47:41Speaker 1: tomorrow for coffee with the Coach.