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  Speaker 2: and attorney ramos Law dot com. We're joined by Adam Schefter.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, Adam, thank you for joining us at
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  Speaker 2: as always, the big thing from the game yesterday with
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  Speaker 2: the Broncos the decision to go forward on fourth and one?
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  Speaker 2: In your mind, was that a football analytics related decision?
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  Speaker 2: Or is that a Sean Payton ego I'm gonna stick
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  Speaker 2: it to them with a backup quarterback decision?
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  Speaker 3: Could it be both? Could it be the analytics or
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  Speaker 3: are saying, hey, this is a spot to go for it,
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  Speaker 3: and Sean's like, I'm gonna go take it to them
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  Speaker 3: right now and try to get a fourteen nothing. I
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  Speaker 3: don't have the exact answer to them. I guess it's
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  Speaker 3: some combination of the two things together where they feel
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  Speaker 3: like they could take control of the game and I
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  Speaker 3: look I don't think it's anything new. We've seen coaches
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  Speaker 3: do this over time, where they continue to bypass field goals,
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  Speaker 3: easy field goals that would seem to be you know,
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  Speaker 3: give me points and like I don't know, the weather's
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  Speaker 3: coming in, He's like the three. But it just is
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  Speaker 3: not the way the coaches have operated in recent years,
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  Speaker 3: right or wrong, it's just it's just not what they do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to delve into that a little bit more
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  Speaker 4: because I don't know where this started. Ben Johnson did
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  Speaker 4: it several times, Dan Campbell did. Dan said he pick
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  Speaker 4: it up from cham Payton. So I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: it's just going in circles. But whatever happened to making
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  Speaker 4: points precious? Why are coaches buying into this so much?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's an analytical thing, and the only thing
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you Vic is that I think that
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  Speaker 3: they Again I don't agree with Like as Rex Ryan's
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  Speaker 3: said today, you know, coaching is an art, not a science,
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  Speaker 3: and sometimes there's an art that tells you, hey, we've
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  Speaker 3: got a backup quarterback in here. Points are going to
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  Speaker 3: be a premium snow's coming in. Easy to say this now,
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  Speaker 3: but let's go take three points let's let's go. Let's
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  Speaker 3: go get those points on the board right now and
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  Speaker 3: make sure that we have what we need. But that's
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  Speaker 3: not what they did. And again, all I know is
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  Speaker 3: I've noticed it a lot this postseason, but I've noticed
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  Speaker 3: it a lot in recent seasons. When I say recent seasons,
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking over the last two, three, four seasons. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: Like it's been going on, and it's a situation where
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  Speaker 3: they just feel like they're they're playing the analytics. So
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  Speaker 3: if they convert one of those, if they convert one
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  Speaker 3: of those into a touchdown, that's two field it was.
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  Speaker 3: But even if you make the first down there you're
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  Speaker 3: not sure of a touchdown, then you still might be fortunately.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you can debate it over and over. The
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  Speaker 3: point is, I'm gonna say this to you right now.
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  Speaker 3: If it had worked out and they had gone up
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  Speaker 3: fourteen to nothing on the way to win in the game.
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  Speaker 3: People around Colorado this morning we've been talking about how
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  Speaker 3: bold and daring and brilliant Shawn is and the fact
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  Speaker 3: that they lost. Now everybody questions.
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  Speaker 5: That we are hypocritical. Yeah, and Adam, I just the
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  Speaker 5: last segment I was talking about, Man, it's hard for
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  Speaker 5: me to get on Sean Payton because I see, I
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  Speaker 5: see where his brain is in that regard, and he
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  Speaker 5: was totally right. If the play works, he's completely correct,
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  Speaker 5: and hopefully they punch it in the end zone and
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  Speaker 5: that game is probably over. But I lament the fact
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  Speaker 5: that they didn't grasp, you know, and take advantage of
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  Speaker 5: the opportunity, even with Studiam at quarterback when they have it,
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  Speaker 5: because I don't know. I was telling the boys earlier,
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  Speaker 5: you never know when you're gonna get back, if you're
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  Speaker 5: ever going to get back. It's hard to get there
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  Speaker 5: in your career. Have you talked to guys were yeah, man,
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  Speaker 5: we got there, and you know, I thought I was
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  Speaker 5: gonna get there all the time, and I just never
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  Speaker 5: got there again. When you when you miss these opportunities, Adam,
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  Speaker 5: it could come back to haunt you for years.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it could come back to haunt you for years,
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  Speaker 3: of course, but they could also be used as fuel
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  Speaker 3: to propel you, like Denver blew the game against Jacksonville
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  Speaker 3: in ninety six and propelled them to two straight Super
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  Speaker 3: Bowl titles. So yeah, you know, you sometimes like if
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  Speaker 3: we look at the Broncos in the mid two thousands
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  Speaker 3: with John Fox, they missed three opportunities and wound up
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  Speaker 3: propelling them the next year when Kubiak took over as
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  Speaker 3: the head coach and they went to the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: and won it. So, you know, it just depends on
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  Speaker 3: how you look at it.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Schefter with us. All Conversations with Schefter brought to
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  Speaker 2: CCU dot org. So, Adam, you know, looking ahead, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think separates the Broncos offense? And I understand
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  Speaker 2: that had a backup quarterback in yesterday, but overall, it
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  Speaker 2: just feels like they don't have the same sort of
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  Speaker 2: firepower as if you just waited an hour after that
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  Speaker 2: game got done. You watch Seattle and you watch LA
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  Speaker 2: and it's like they have playmakers all over the field.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think the Broncos need most heading into
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  Speaker 2: this offseason?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think I think JK. Dobbins contracts up, and
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  Speaker 3: you need to make sure that that ground game is established,
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  Speaker 3: whether that's R. J. Harvey and you believe in him
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  Speaker 3: and he can be the guy, or whether you need
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  Speaker 3: to draft a guy to complement him or re signed JK. Dobbins.
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  Speaker 3: However you want to do it. They've got to get
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  Speaker 3: that run game going. And Shawn's usually done that everywhere
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  Speaker 3: he's been and I would imagine he will now. So
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the first thing. They also probably could
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  Speaker 3: use another wide receiver, somebody they can rely on. They
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  Speaker 3: looked to see if they can get one before the
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline didn't happen. I still think that they could
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  Speaker 3: use one more guy there. Again, maybe Troy Franklin is
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  Speaker 3: going to develop, maybe Marvin Mims is going to develop.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe one of these young receivers is going to develop.
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  Speaker 3: But they need to have somebody else in there next season.
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  Speaker 3: So there are some things they need. And then you know,
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  Speaker 3: of course, you want to upgrade the roster wherever you
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  Speaker 3: can that. I'll have to Sean to do that figure
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  Speaker 3: that out.
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  Speaker 4: I have a more general question about the league and
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  Speaker 4: how they go about fixing these things. There was a play,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not going to say it made all the
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  Speaker 4: difference of the world. There was a play where Drake
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  Speaker 4: May ran the ball on the quarterback keeper and it
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  Speaker 4: was challenged because the Broncos felt he was short to
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  Speaker 4: gain and blah blah blah, you couldn't tell from the camera.
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  Speaker 4: How does the NFL fix that so you can actually
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  Speaker 4: see it because you can't there's too many people in
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  Speaker 4: the picture. I mean, what if it wasn't the first down,
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  Speaker 4: what if he was short, what if the football was
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  Speaker 4: a yard short?
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  Speaker 3: We'll never know, you know, some things I just don't
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  Speaker 3: know if they're fixable. They've talked about having a chip
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  Speaker 3: in the ball at some point in time to place
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  Speaker 3: the ball. I don't know how that works. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: smart enough technologically speaking to give you the answer. But
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  Speaker 3: if you get a ship in the ball to know exactly,
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  Speaker 3: you know where, But how do you know exactly that's
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  Speaker 3: That's That's what I was gonna say. So you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's human error involved in these games. It's a part
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  Speaker 3: of it. It's just the way that it kind of is.
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  Speaker 3: Everything is not going to be perfect all the time,
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  Speaker 3: but by and large, you know, the officials missed playing calls.
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  Speaker 3: But in real time, like Poka Nakua catching that ball
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  Speaker 3: last night in the final play and they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: game over, Like game over. He was at a bet.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, he slid down his knee like that was
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  Speaker 3: pretty good. Like they get a lot of things in
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  Speaker 3: real time that are pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good point. I mean, I guess when you're
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  Speaker 4: a frustrated the Broncos.
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  Speaker 5: Fan, you trying to find it. Yeah, and that's golly, Adam.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what we're gonna do here. I told Vic,
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  Speaker 5: I'll give him a day to go over everything, and
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  Speaker 5: we're going back over individual plays, including the fumble. And
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  Speaker 5: it was a mess to begin with. And I guess
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  Speaker 5: you give yourself a day or a week, right, and
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  Speaker 5: then you throw it all away because we haven't been
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  Speaker 5: in this position quite some time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Listen, it's very hard and very deflating and frustrating
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  Speaker 3: to get this far, to be in that spot, to
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  Speaker 3: have home field, to be the one seed, to be
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  Speaker 3: sixty minutes in the Super Bowl, and you come up
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  Speaker 3: sure that that's never fun. But that's what makes you
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  Speaker 3: appreciate the wins even more when they do come.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Adam.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm sorry to interject, Adam. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: you were covering the Broncos at the time, but I
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  Speaker 4: went back and did some background. I remember the game.
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  Speaker 4: This is not the first time the Denver Broncos lost
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  Speaker 4: in AFC Championship game. Ten to seven. It happened against
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  Speaker 4: Buffalo in ninety one championship. That yeah, that listen to this.
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  Speaker 4: It goes further. They both lost those games with backup quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: Those backup quarterbacks Stidham and Kubiak both wore the number eight.
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  Speaker 4: There were missed field goals in both games, costly missfield goals,
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  Speaker 4: and there was a costly turnover in each game that
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  Speaker 4: pretty much decided the fate of the Broncos. So the
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  Speaker 4: similarities between those two games uncanny.
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  Speaker 3: Except here's the difference that because I was at that
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  Speaker 3: game in nineteen ninety one in Buffalo and John Ellie
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  Speaker 3: went out of the game and Gary Kubiak came on,
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  Speaker 3: and the Broncos were up against the k gun offense
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  Speaker 3: that was scoring forty to fifty points a game, and
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  Speaker 3: they played incredible like that game. They lost the game,
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  Speaker 3: but they played well enough to win the game. Were
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  Speaker 3: incredibly impressive, and I think David Treble missed two or
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  Speaker 3: three fields.
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  Speaker 4: He met three field goals thirty seven.
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  Speaker 3: Forty one yep, okay, I remember, and any one of
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  Speaker 3: those misses would have changed the game. And I never
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  Speaker 3: got the sense yesterday watching that game they did that
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  Speaker 3: team yesterday did not play as well as the one
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  Speaker 3: in ninety one did. The one in ninety one went
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  Speaker 3: into Buffalo overcame the odds, was massive underdogs and nearly
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  Speaker 3: pulled the ups and played well enough to win the game. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I look at the team, and partly because of the
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  Speaker 3: weather and whatever, what, they didn't play well enough to win.
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  Speaker 3: They were they played all right, They played all right,
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  Speaker 3: like they didn't play great yesterday? Did they know they didn't?
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  Speaker 4: The snow skewed things a bit too. I mean, who's
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  Speaker 4: gonna play all right? In the fourth quarter of that game?
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  Speaker 3: Uh? Well, you know, back in ninety one, everybody played.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, I remember. Any one of those
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  Speaker 3: field goals would have made a huge difference. And Kubiak
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  Speaker 3: played a great game that day, and the defense was us.
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  Speaker 3: And yesterday, I just never got a feeling that somebody
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  Speaker 3: was gonna make the play that they needed.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, even before the snow, Adam the Broncos. They score
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  Speaker 5: on that first drive or the second drive, I should say,
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  Speaker 5: but in the first quarter, and they didn't do Jack
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  Speaker 5: squat the rest of the game. That's what's so disappointing.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't they didn't do anything offensively the rest of
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  Speaker 5: the game, you know, before the snow came. It just
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  Speaker 5: it just it's so disappointing.
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  Speaker 3: It was I mean, I don't have to say like
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  Speaker 3: again I never got the feeling, but like they went
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  Speaker 3: up seven to nothing and then they're driving and that's
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  Speaker 3: and that's why people are harping on that decision because
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  Speaker 3: it felt like that was one of the turn one
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  Speaker 3: of But you know what, here's the deal. If Jared
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  Speaker 3: Sidham doesn't attempt that pass, yeah, that led to their
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  Speaker 3: seven points and it should have been a touchdown right
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  Speaker 3: then and there New England got it in. It doesn't matter,
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  Speaker 3: but that was the seven points. Again, I felt like
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  Speaker 3: going into that game yesterday that the way to win
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  Speaker 3: the game was to not make mistakes. So if we
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  Speaker 3: just take Jared Stidham's turnover off the board, there is
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  Speaker 3: a much better, if not high, likelihood it never wins
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  Speaker 3: the eighth. You can't lose the game, like you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: find a way you're winning it, but don't lose the game.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what happened.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of losing, who the Broncos more likely to lose
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  Speaker 4: vance Joseph or Davis Webb.
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  Speaker 3: Or Bogus web right now, I believe Yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I think, well, you know, Vance will have decisions whether
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  Speaker 3: he wants to stay or go, that's up to him.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if his contracts up. It might be.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know his status, but I don't I don't
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  Speaker 3: think he's gonna get me begetting one of these head
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  Speaker 3: coaching jobs. I don't see where he's heavily involved in
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  Speaker 3: any of these four openings. Right now. Davis Webb is
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  Speaker 3: interviewing today for the the Bills and Raiders head coaching jobs,
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  Speaker 3: and I think has a chance to get both.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, I'll tell you this about Vance, Joseph, he might
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  Speaker 2: be he might be able to coach the Browns because
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  Speaker 2: seemingly nobody wants that job.
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  Speaker 3: What's going on there, Well, they're interviewing Nate Schieldhouse, the
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  Speaker 3: Rams past game coordinator today, and I think the Browns
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  Speaker 3: decision is going to come down to Nate Shieldhouse and
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  Speaker 3: their own defensive coordinator of Jim Schwartz. But I think, well, I've.
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  Speaker 5: Got people I don't even know who they are taking
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  Speaker 5: their names out of consideration for the Browns job, and
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  Speaker 5: I'm going on, Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Big pulled his name out of this twenty two. That's
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  Speaker 3: the way.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, Vick Lambarney. I listen, I've decided to withdraw
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  Speaker 5: my name from the Browns. Adam. Always appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us.
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  Speaker 5: Adam.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, you're gonna be at Radio Row next week.
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  Speaker 3: I try to avoid Radio Row at all Kasmick, so
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  Speaker 3: do I.
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  Speaker 4: But I got to be there, so that means you're
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  Speaker 4: there too, So I'll see you next to do this.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week. Guys.
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  Speaker 5: All right, thanks.
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  Speaker 3: Aving Adam Schefter.
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