Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Did CrossFit Really Sell?
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- 0:05So we thought we were going to have
- 0:06a quiet week of talking about sports
- 0:08movies.
- 0:09And then the spin told us there was
- 0:12a sale.
- 0:14We're going to talk about it next.
- 0:46what is going on everybody welcome to
- 0:49sunday sunday sunday night crossfit talk
- 0:54we are live on a sunday night it's
- 0:56a bears victory and everybody else in the
- 0:59division is lost today what a glorious
- 1:03sunday and i know jamie is pissed as
- 1:05hell but i am not i am happy
- 1:08ten wins ten wins my team actually has
- 1:11won ten times this year oh my goodness
- 1:16I'm crushing fantasy.
- 1:20That's the only thing I got going for
- 1:21me.
- 1:23Everybody tearing ACLs today.
- 1:25I know.
- 1:26Who tore?
- 1:26I didn't watch anything today.
- 1:28Pat Mahomes.
- 1:29He tore his ACL today?
- 1:33And they just announced Devontae Adams has
- 1:35a very bad hamstring pull.
- 1:38Yeah.
- 1:38It does not look good.
- 1:40Jeez.
- 1:42Yeah, injuries out the wazoo.
- 1:45So, yeah, rough, rough day.
- 1:49Micah Parsons is big.
- 1:50He got injured too?
- 1:52What's that?
- 1:53He got injured?
- 1:54Torn ACL.
- 1:56Oh, my gosh.
- 1:59As a Bears fan who has to play
- 2:00the Packers next week,
- 2:02I would never root for a player to
- 2:03get injured ever, ever, ever,
- 2:06especially a Penn State alum that I have
- 2:09loved my whole life.
- 2:10Yeah.
- 2:11It's weird that he's a Packers.
- 2:13It is very weird.
- 2:15Very weird.
- 2:16And then the forty four year old Phillip
- 2:18Rivers almost pulled off the comeback.
- 2:22They actually started him.
- 2:23Damn.
- 2:25They went ahead with.
- 2:28Twenty eight seconds left.
- 2:30And the Seahawks somehow got into free
- 2:33field goal position in like twenty eight
- 2:35seconds and kicked a game winning field
- 2:38goal to beat him.
- 2:39Jeez.
- 2:39Yeah.
- 2:41It's crazy.
- 2:43Red Jones was on fire this afternoon.
- 2:49CrossFit, he was slinging it.
- 2:52Apparently, you're not following.
- 2:55Phillip has not played in five years.
- 2:57The Colts called him to see if he
- 2:59would come out of retirement to play today
- 3:03because they lost Daniel Jones to a torn
- 3:06Achilles,
- 3:07and he actually started and almost beat
- 3:10the Seattle Seahawks,
- 3:12who are one of the best teams in
- 3:13the league.
- 3:13That's impressive.
- 3:15Crazy, crazy.
- 3:17And definitely one of the best defenses in
- 3:18the league.
- 3:21So...
- 3:23uh we got dense we got train olive
- 3:27um uh navi cc miss prevo did you
- 3:34play for the canadian national team uh u-
- 3:38eighteen u-twenty-two i mean it's a little
- 3:40bit higher than twenty-two and then singer
- 3:43camps but not the olympic team
- 3:50Philip Rivers has to support his ten
- 3:52children.
- 3:55All to one woman, though.
- 3:58They've been together since high school.
- 4:01And he is actually a grandfather now.
- 4:03Wow.
- 4:04Yeah.
- 4:05So grandfather at forty-four,
- 4:07slinging it around on a football field.
- 4:11Can you imagine like being his kid and
- 4:13getting to tell the story?
- 4:15Your dad came off the couch five years
- 4:18into retirement to play a game.
- 4:22It's crazy.
- 4:23Crazy.
- 4:24You can't even make that stuff up.
- 4:27Yeah.
- 4:30He's a grandpa and his free NFL insurance
- 4:32just extended five years since he played.
- 4:34Totally worth it.
- 4:39Yeah, the premiums were going to go up,
- 4:41so he had to jump back in for
- 4:42at least a game to re-up the insurance
- 4:45for another five years.
- 4:49So it was a wild day today,
- 4:51not only in football,
- 4:53but the news that was released from the
- 4:55barbell spin,
- 4:55which we're going to get into.
- 4:58They did like a two-hour podcast today.
- 5:02We're not going to rehash it all.
- 5:03What I want to do is get these
- 5:05ladies' opinions.
- 5:06We have been kind of fighting all day
- 5:08about this via text.
- 5:11So now we're going to do it live
- 5:13on the air.
- 5:14But I'm not going to rehash everything.
- 5:16If you want to see what is in
- 5:18the document, go to the barbell spin.
- 5:21But before we get into that,
- 5:23before we get into that,
- 5:25legends happened this weekend.
- 5:26Did you see the back of the judges'
- 5:28shirts?
- 5:28I did not.
- 5:31They were sponsored by Thirdsy.
- 5:35And so it said judge and underneath it
- 5:37was the third Z logo.
- 5:39And it was really cool seeing someone who
- 5:41supports us support that event.
- 5:44Um, and the judging crew, which is where,
- 5:46uh,
- 5:47I came up through and it was really
- 5:50cool to see that, uh,
- 5:52that they were able to support in that
- 5:54way.
- 5:55And it looked really good.
- 5:56It was a good way to, um,
- 6:00to have a face a marketing face that
- 6:03was unique to other uh things in the
- 6:06space it wasn't just like on the the
- 6:08wall around the floor or on or it
- 6:12was actually on the backs of all the
- 6:14judges and you know they show up all
- 6:16the time on pictures and videos and so
- 6:20so it looked really really good
- 6:23And yeah.
- 6:25And so it is five degrees here in
- 6:28Ohio.
- 6:30And there's nothing better tonight than to
- 6:32heat up my salted caramel chocolate third
- 6:36Z before I go to bed and warm
- 6:38up because I'm in the basement right now.
- 6:40It is cold.
- 6:42I cannot wait till this is done.
- 6:44My third Z gets a good night's sleep
- 6:47tonight before I have to get back to
- 6:48the work week.
- 6:49And all I have to do is use
- 6:50code Jazzy,
- 6:51get fifteen percent off that order.
- 6:53at thirdsy.com backslash Jazzy.
- 6:57Yeah, I was cold,
- 7:01so I started mine already.
- 7:04Keep moving.
- 7:04Yeah,
- 7:05Carolyn said she was just holding on to
- 7:06the warm cup to stay warm.
- 7:09How bad is it in Toronto right now?
- 7:12It's minus ten degrees Celsius,
- 7:15but it feels much colder.
- 7:19It feels like minus twenty.
- 7:21I think it was like minus twelve or
- 7:22fourteen this weekend.
- 7:24But I was back home.
- 7:25I was like in Sarnia this weekend.
- 7:26I was back visiting my family.
- 7:29CrossFit wants to know if it's good with
- 7:30bourbon.
- 7:30Probably.
- 7:31Yeah, probably.
- 7:33I mean,
- 7:34the flavor profiles would go well
- 7:35together.
- 7:36I don't know its effectiveness once you
- 7:38put it with bourbon,
- 7:41but it probably tastes good.
- 7:43John George put it in Greek yogurt last
- 7:46week and said it was delicious.
- 7:48So, yeah,
- 7:50it has all kinds of uses and flavors
- 7:52and all that kind of stuff.
- 7:55So, yeah.
- 7:58One last thing, Carol,
- 7:59I saw you went back to your high
- 8:01school.
- 8:01You have a banner in the rafters at
- 8:03your high school.
- 8:04I do, yeah.
- 8:05That's really cool.
- 8:07The only one at that school.
- 8:08It's really cool.
- 8:09It's like all of the championship banners
- 8:11are on one side and then mine is
- 8:13by itself on the other side.
- 8:16Yeah, they did that a few years ago.
- 8:18It's cool.
- 8:22Okay, let me clarify.
- 8:23John George put thirdsy in his Greek
- 8:25yogurt, not bourbon.
- 8:28not bourbon but i could see how you
- 8:31would have gotten mixed up by the way
- 8:32i said that sorry small mix up um
- 8:38yeah uh grace is we got four to
- 8:41five inches of snow in pittsburgh we got
- 8:42about that five maybe five to six here
- 8:44in columbus um it's just cold now i
- 8:48don't mind the snow i just hate the
- 8:50cold
- 8:52Um, it's funny that you put that up,
- 8:54Carolyn,
- 8:55cause I don't have a banner in my
- 8:57high school, but I, they,
- 8:59they have a trophy that is the swimming
- 9:00MVP every year that is you,
- 9:03they add the name to the trophy and
- 9:05it sits in the trophy case.
- 9:06And it is cool when you go back
- 9:08to your high school to just kind of
- 9:10see it,
- 9:10see your name there and see all the
- 9:12other names listed with it.
- 9:14It's gotta be super cool to see a
- 9:15banner hanging in the gymnasium though.
- 9:17Yeah, for sure.
- 9:20And like, yeah, they, they put some,
- 9:22I don't remember what's on it,
- 9:24but it's like for like basically all my
- 9:25sports.
- 9:26They have like some CrossFit things and
- 9:28then hockey,
- 9:31Taekwondo and soccer on there,
- 9:32I think written.
- 9:33So pretty cool.
- 9:37And John George says I may try the
- 9:38bourbon tonight.
- 9:39What the hell?
- 9:39Let us know.
- 9:43If it is twenty four in Alabama,
- 9:45it tells you how cold the country is.
- 9:49Have you been following this flooding in
- 9:52Washington?
- 9:53No?
- 9:56It's wild.
- 9:58You got to get on,
- 9:59search some footage of it.
- 10:01It is crazy.
- 10:01These towns are getting washed away.
- 10:05We...
- 10:06There was no good college football on
- 10:07yesterday.
- 10:08So like my wife and I just watched
- 10:09movies.
- 10:11It was snowing so hard.
- 10:13There was no going anywhere.
- 10:14Everything shut down.
- 10:16It was a level two snow emergency,
- 10:17which means you're not allowed on the
- 10:19roads unless it's an emergency.
- 10:23So we just watched old movies and then
- 10:25started watching corny Christmas movies to
- 10:27end the night.
- 10:28So, yeah.
- 10:32We went to, I,
- 10:33I went to over East side of state
- 10:36towards Detroit.
- 10:36Um,
- 10:37Ronica and another member at our gym were
- 10:39competing in the, um,
- 10:42compete with a Cougar wild with a sugar
- 10:44daddy,
- 10:45the one that you have to be like,
- 10:46ten years older or younger.
- 10:48So we went and watched that competition
- 10:50ran into quite a few people.
- 10:52Um, yeah.
- 10:54Um, Michael pass was there.
- 10:56Remember you met, you interviewed him.
- 10:58Yeah.
- 10:59And actually, so Sam and Zoe were there.
- 11:00Okay.
- 11:02Sam Demeester and cause they moved back.
- 11:03Right.
- 11:04Um,
- 11:05and so Michael was competing with Zoe and
- 11:08Sam was just there like coaching.
- 11:11And then, um, yeah, it was, there was,
- 11:14yeah,
- 11:14there was some seriously good athletes
- 11:16there.
- 11:17Uh, Jordan, Jordan chefs was there.
- 11:18If you remember her from semifinals,
- 11:22Michigan is kind of a mini hotbed for
- 11:23CrossFit athletes.
- 11:24It really is.
- 11:26I hate to admit it, but it is.
- 11:28It is.
- 11:28Yeah.
- 11:28Yeah.
- 11:31um scott doesn't support the troops listen
- 11:34i am i just i i used to
- 11:37love the army navy game but the football
- 11:39just isn't that good anymore it's it's too
- 11:42old school for me um and i just
- 11:45i gave up on college football this year
- 11:47when penn state stunk really bad so yeah
- 11:54All right,
- 11:54do we want to get into this?
- 11:56I've been dreading this all day because of
- 11:58the fight we've had all afternoon.
- 12:01So it was announced.
- 12:03Now,
- 12:03I want to clarify this very much because
- 12:06I think people are missing this.
- 12:08It is believed that the sale has been
- 12:11done,
- 12:12just not officially signed off on yet.
- 12:15There is an agreement in place,
- 12:17but that has not been completely confirmed
- 12:19yet.
- 12:19Right.
- 12:21This is all like,
- 12:22there's just a couple fine hairs that need
- 12:25to finish this whole thing off.
- 12:28This document that we're going to talk
- 12:30about was released,
- 12:32but they haven't even totally confirmed
- 12:35that the...
- 12:39They haven't even confirmed that the
- 12:40document is in fact from them,
- 12:43even though a lot of the verbiage that
- 12:45was used in the document was used with
- 12:49spin in a phone call.
- 12:54And so if you want to see the
- 12:57full document,
- 12:58you can go to thebarbellspin.com.
- 13:00It is available there.
- 13:01There's a link inside the story.
- 13:06I have it up here if we ever
- 13:07want to look at it.
- 13:08It's very long.
- 13:10It's very painful to look through.
- 13:13And as I said at the top of
- 13:14the show,
- 13:15the spin did such a good job of
- 13:17going through it this afternoon.
- 13:19I do not want to rehash it.
- 13:22If you want to hear the details of
- 13:23it,
- 13:24you can go to The Spin's show and
- 13:27watch it all.
- 13:28If you want to read it,
- 13:29you can go to The Spin's website and
- 13:31read it all.
- 13:33We're just going to give our reaction to
- 13:37what we have heard.
- 13:39And I want to preface it with this.
- 13:42What I know from...
- 13:45I have an MBA.
- 13:46We've done case studies on businesses.
- 13:49A business plan like this would never be
- 13:51a public document.
- 13:54The fact that it got leaked is probably
- 13:56not what was intended by the buyers unless
- 14:01I am completely off base.
- 14:04And the fact that it's out there,
- 14:05this is a document designed to get
- 14:09investors,
- 14:10to get people on board with you,
- 14:12to get people to come with you on
- 14:14this adventure to buy something.
- 14:17It's not to say,
- 14:19this is our platform that we are running
- 14:22on.
- 14:23And...
- 14:25So with that,
- 14:26I think that the fact that it's been
- 14:28leaked,
- 14:31it's going to make it a hard climb
- 14:34if these people do, in fact, buy CrossFit.
- 14:41Yeah, I mean,
- 14:41I feel like they're starting off on the
- 14:43wrong foot with the community if they
- 14:46happen to be able to close this deal,
- 14:47because...
- 14:49Even if this is just like a proposal
- 14:51and fifty percent of the things get
- 14:54implemented,
- 14:55I don't think anyone is on board for
- 14:58pretty much anything in here.
- 15:01And I can I mean,
- 15:02I can see investors maybe seeing a
- 15:04document like this and thinking, OK,
- 15:05there's some.
- 15:07room here for this be coming of money.
- 15:10Like we can see some money coming in.
- 15:13Cause they don't know.
- 15:14Like if you don't know CrossFit,
- 15:15then you don't, you don't know.
- 15:17Like you can just see their plan for
- 15:20making more money and see, think, Oh yeah,
- 15:22that seems like we could maybe make money
- 15:24here or there, but it's just taking,
- 15:26it's taking,
- 15:28I feel like it's taking the affiliates
- 15:31right out of it.
- 15:32And yeah,
- 15:33I mean,
- 15:35I can't imagine very many affiliates
- 15:36wanting to, like, sure,
- 15:38there's a place for, like,
- 15:39the big affiliates probably seeing a
- 15:41better return on investment and sticking
- 15:43around and not really scoffing at a ten
- 15:46K a year fee.
- 15:47But, man,
- 15:53raising affiliate fees is just insane to
- 15:56me as a business model at this point.
- 16:00So can I ask,
- 16:01the minute you heard raise affiliate fees,
- 16:03you were done.
- 16:04It didn't matter what else came out.
- 16:06I mean,
- 16:06you and I have been fighting about
- 16:08affiliate fees since about twelve thirty
- 16:11this afternoon.
- 16:12And and I was in agreement.
- 16:15I don't think you should be raising
- 16:16affiliate fees at this point.
- 16:18But you were so stuck on the affiliate
- 16:20fee.
- 16:21You could not get past that.
- 16:22So not really like I want it.
- 16:25I'm trying to think if there is a
- 16:26way for for their to.
- 16:29be a way to actually bring more money
- 16:32into affiliates with a raised fee.
- 16:34But I don't see...
- 16:36From what I read and listened to,
- 16:39I don't see a... To me,
- 16:42that ROI isn't coming out of the things
- 16:44they're implementing.
- 16:46So I don't know how an affiliate can
- 16:49justify that increase.
- 16:51If there's...
- 16:55And I don't even know how it would
- 16:55come from.
- 16:56Again, I can't even wrap my brain around,
- 16:58but if there would have been a good
- 17:00idea for money to flow back into the
- 17:02affiliates, to me,
- 17:04it was the second I heard this online
- 17:06aspect in conjunction with raising
- 17:09affiliate fees.
- 17:10I'm like,
- 17:11this makes no sense because now we're
- 17:13pushing members away.
- 17:16How are you even bringing more members
- 17:17into the gym?
- 17:20You're pushing members away.
- 17:23And, and you want me to pay more?
- 17:25That makes no sense to me.
- 17:29I'll wait to give my opinion till I
- 17:31hear both of yours.
- 17:33Yeah.
- 17:33Well, I was getting so frustrated.
- 17:34I was listening,
- 17:35listening to it on my drive home today
- 17:39and
- 17:41Like what was bothering me is I love
- 17:43programming.
- 17:44Like I love, love the programming.
- 17:45I've been programming for about, you know,
- 17:47almost, well,
- 17:47basically since I started CrossFit.
- 17:49And when they started talking about,
- 17:51you know,
- 17:51you get to go on the app and
- 17:52you do,
- 17:53you can choose your instructor and you can
- 17:55do the calisthenics stuff.
- 17:56You can do the basketball dribbling.
- 18:00And I was like, this isn't even CrossFit.
- 18:02And the beauty with CrossFit is like,
- 18:04and we say all the time,
- 18:04like there's not one workout that's
- 18:06CrossFit.
- 18:06It's like the whole thing.
- 18:08the whole picture of the programming and
- 18:10it's not just constantly, um, like,
- 18:14like it's not random workouts that you
- 18:16just get to pick and choose.
- 18:17Like there's an actual art to it in
- 18:20terms of programming and like it's varied,
- 18:23but it's not random.
- 18:25And when people just are just going to
- 18:26be picking their instructor and their
- 18:28workout and, um,
- 18:30they're cherry picking everything.
- 18:31Like that wasn't CrossFit.
- 18:33There was nothing about the education
- 18:34part, which is a huge part.
- 18:36Like I just got my L three and
- 18:38it's like, well,
- 18:40how is that going to play into,
- 18:41you know, all these education level one,
- 18:43level two, level three, like,
- 18:44is there going to be any changes in
- 18:46that in terms of what you need in
- 18:49order to run your affiliate?
- 18:50Well,
- 18:50is it even going to be an affiliate
- 18:51anymore?
- 18:52Um, so that was,
- 18:55annoying as well.
- 18:56Um,
- 18:56the whole at home is pushing people away
- 18:59from the affiliate and what separates
- 19:01CrossFit from, you know,
- 19:03orange theory at forty five Barry's boot
- 19:05camps, anybody's boot camp,
- 19:08like is the coaching and the programming
- 19:10and then the educational part of it.
- 19:12And those,
- 19:13those three things were not like big parts
- 19:17of like this, this plan.
- 19:21So to me, it was like,
- 19:22what are we doing?
- 19:23Like this,
- 19:24we are going so far away from what
- 19:25we were built on in terms of CrossFit.
- 19:28Um, so yeah,
- 19:30just frustrating to hear some of the plans
- 19:34in place with, is it two people?
- 19:40I think it's just one.
- 19:41Yeah, everyone says that Mastrov is out.
- 19:43It's just Wade.
- 19:44Okay, well, yeah.
- 19:45Who knows?
- 19:48Yeah,
- 19:48because you can get a good workout at
- 19:50F-Forty-Five.
- 19:50You can get a good workout at Orange
- 19:52Theory.
- 19:53It's great,
- 19:54but there's relatively little coaching,
- 19:58and we have a lot more variance in
- 20:00what we're exposing our athletes to in
- 20:02terms of
- 20:03forging elite fitness by adding, you know,
- 20:06more barbells, higher skills,
- 20:09and the range that you can progress is
- 20:10much bigger in CrossFit.
- 20:12But it seems like they're going to be
- 20:14going away from that and sticking to an
- 20:17at home model of an app like Peloton,
- 20:19which Peloton has great workouts.
- 20:21Like I've been I've done Peloton stuff a
- 20:23couple times before.
- 20:25And like, that's fine.
- 20:25But that's not what like, we're built on.
- 20:30So curious to see like what the plans
- 20:32are for the education part of it and
- 20:35how those are gonna get recognized or
- 20:37continue to get recognized like your
- 20:39certifications and stuff like that for
- 20:41coaching.
- 20:42If people get away from CrossFit,
- 20:45let's say, and start their own thing,
- 20:47do they need another certification?
- 20:48Does the CrossFit certification gets
- 20:50protected?
- 20:51Like, I don't know.
- 20:51Like,
- 20:52I'm just curious how all of that would
- 20:53work as well.
- 20:56Yeah.
- 20:57So my thoughts are this.
- 21:02One,
- 21:02I view it as like a political candidate
- 21:04who is running for office.
- 21:05They're going to make all the promises
- 21:07they can to get people to buy in
- 21:09and to vote for them or to hop
- 21:11on board with them.
- 21:12And that half of those promises are going
- 21:14to go away once the takeover happens.
- 21:17The second thing I'm going to say is
- 21:19we have gone from fifteen thousand
- 21:20affiliates to eight thousand affiliates.
- 21:23There is a problem with the way we're
- 21:24doing things today.
- 21:26And I want the new owner to have
- 21:28an open mind and to think about things
- 21:30in a different way than they've been
- 21:31thought about before,
- 21:33because whatever we're doing now is not
- 21:35working.
- 21:36The affiliates are leaving in droves,
- 21:39whether that's from the forty five hundred
- 21:41dollar increase,
- 21:42whether it's from moving a
- 21:45whatever happened in twenty twenty,
- 21:46whatever happened in twenty eighteen,
- 21:48whatever,
- 21:49like we can go back to all the
- 21:50different things that we thought were
- 21:52mistakes over the years and all of them
- 21:55probably led to this.
- 21:56But CrossFit's in trouble right now.
- 22:00It's we've been saying the whole time this
- 22:03thing has been up for sale,
- 22:04that trying to find the value in CrossFit
- 22:07for someone to pay two hundred million
- 22:08dollars for it is really hard to do.
- 22:14And so the fact that a person came
- 22:16in with a plan that is varied and
- 22:19different from what we're doing today
- 22:22makes me feel somewhat optimistic.
- 22:25Raising affiliate fees to ten thousand
- 22:27dollars makes me feel like, OK,
- 22:29now you're just crazy.
- 22:31Well,
- 22:31you don't know that you don't know what
- 22:33you're buying.
- 22:33You don't know the business.
- 22:35But hold on, let me finish,
- 22:37let me finish.
- 22:39But the fact that they do have some
- 22:41ideas to try to attract more people in,
- 22:44we're in a different time and space.
- 22:46There are people that will never ever walk
- 22:49into a CrossFit gym,
- 22:50but maybe wanna try the methodology.
- 22:52They just don't wanna do it in front
- 22:53of people.
- 22:55And there is a place that if the
- 22:57app is done right and live classes are
- 23:00done,
- 23:01that it could attract new people to it
- 23:03who then would go to the affiliate.
- 23:07When I read the part about the basketball
- 23:09dribbling and the calisthenics and the
- 23:11yoga and all of that part,
- 23:12I read it as a supplement to the
- 23:15CrossFit workout.
- 23:17not an individual workout alone if i'm a
- 23:20basketball player who wants to do crossfit
- 23:23to be in shape for basketball and i
- 23:25want to do some supplements of basketball
- 23:27and calisthenics and yoga that's another
- 23:29thing though if you're a basketball player
- 23:32you do gpp no no but i'm saying
- 23:35you do gpp to do to get fitter
- 23:37and the basketball coaches take care of
- 23:40the basketballs we have no business
- 23:41teaching the dribbling
- 23:45That's not our lane.
- 23:46Kind of all day.
- 23:47Our lane is too narrow.
- 23:50Our lane isn't making us enough money.
- 23:53Our lane isn't driving enough people to
- 23:55affiliates or creating new affiliates.
- 23:58We need to expand the lane in some
- 24:00direction to add into the value of the
- 24:06company.
- 24:10And maybe these aren't the right ways to
- 24:11expand it,
- 24:13but someone has to think in a different
- 24:14direction.
- 24:16Yeah, but all they're thinking is...
- 24:20business minded in a way to suck more
- 24:23money out of affiliates.
- 24:25That's the way they're thinking.
- 24:26And that isn't going to grow CrossFit.
- 24:30Again, this is not for you and me.
- 24:31This is for people that they're trying to
- 24:32get to invest in their idea.
- 24:35So everything has to be about money.
- 24:37Everything has to be,
- 24:38how are you going to get over value?
- 24:40CrossFit isn't worth this and nobody
- 24:41should invest in it.
- 24:42And it needs to get brought back down.
- 24:45It just dies.
- 24:49no i don't like i don't think that's
- 24:50necessarily true we've lost almost fifty
- 24:56percent of the affiliates yeah don't raise
- 24:58fees on people when you haven't even done
- 25:00anything to improve the environment what
- 25:03are you doing to bring help bring you've
- 25:06just now started ad campaigns
- 25:08Like you needed to do ad campaigns and
- 25:10show that more people were coming in to
- 25:11fill it and then raise affiliate fees.
- 25:14Why are you doubling affiliate fees just
- 25:15to squeak more money out?
- 25:17You did nothing for the affiliates.
- 25:21The people in this chat and the people
- 25:22talking to each other here love CrossFit
- 25:25and we love the way it is and
- 25:26we love where it is,
- 25:28but there's nobody new coming in there.
- 25:31There's been what has been the growth over
- 25:34the last five years, seven years.
- 25:39You don't want to continue to water this
- 25:42down and just bring in anybody and
- 25:44everybody.
- 25:45That's part of the problem.
- 25:48CrossFit is a mindset,
- 25:50and you either want to go in and
- 25:52work hard.
- 25:53We can't keep taking out double-unders and
- 25:56taking out muscle-ups because it's too
- 25:58hard for you.
- 25:59You can take out double-unders.
- 26:04Who said take that stuff out?
- 26:07that's like basically what Mason's video
- 26:09is about.
- 26:10Like poking at rich for just like,
- 26:12you know, like they don't want that.
- 26:13We're going to take that subject.
- 26:15It isn't, it isn't though.
- 26:17If you're trying to do this online thing
- 26:19to, to bring in Pete, just Joe Schmoe,
- 26:22who's too scared to walk into a CrossFit
- 26:24gym.
- 26:25Well, this might not be it for you.
- 26:26Like if you're too scared to man up
- 26:28and fricking walk your butt into a door,
- 26:30you don't have it in you to be
- 26:31a CrossFitter.
- 26:33Okay, there won't be a very small club.
- 26:36We haven't.
- 26:36We're making no money.
- 26:38We're making money.
- 26:40You need to go back to pre- twenty
- 26:42eighteen.
- 26:47I told you I can see the point
- 26:50of an app and kind of marketing that
- 26:55way to expose new people to this who
- 26:59are scared.
- 27:00I can see
- 27:02that side of the argument however to me
- 27:07i think you would have to like bring
- 27:08affiliate fees back down to like two k
- 27:11to push that and then maybe you would
- 27:13start to get these like part-time
- 27:14crossfitters or punch card type people who
- 27:16maybe would be like okay i i want
- 27:18to start to experience the community side
- 27:20of it and they might start approaching but
- 27:22like you can't go to ten k and
- 27:24push people away from affiliates that
- 27:25makes no sense you keep bringing up the
- 27:28ten k i agree with you on the
- 27:29ten k that is stupid
- 27:32I agree.
- 27:33I can see an argument for dropping
- 27:35affiliate fees and opening it up.
- 27:37And then maybe we can like grow the
- 27:39space.
- 27:40And then the people that do step into
- 27:41a gym because they were exposed to it,
- 27:43figure out what coaching and community is
- 27:47all about.
- 27:48So I showed a story earlier this week
- 27:50about how Peloton changed the way they do
- 27:53business and created online communities
- 27:56for people to join.
- 27:58And that is how they got out of
- 27:59debt and started to swing in a positive
- 28:01direction.
- 28:03You can learn from that.
- 28:04You can create online communities for
- 28:06people to work out together doing CrossFit
- 28:09online.
- 28:10I'm not saying dilute it.
- 28:11I'm not saying change it what it is.
- 28:14I'm saying just offer it in a different
- 28:15way than walking into an affiliate.
- 28:18But where's the coaching?
- 28:19Where's the feedback to the athletes?
- 28:23You do it on video.
- 28:26Just like we do this show.
- 28:29Not the platform.
- 28:29I feel like they're going to go.
- 28:33If you're just following an instructor
- 28:35like a Peloton style,
- 28:36you're just doing the workout at home.
- 28:39which I mean, we have,
- 28:41you could follow a bunch of CrossFit
- 28:42workouts at home.
- 28:43Yes,
- 28:45there's plenty of that already in the
- 28:48space.
- 28:48It's not like,
- 28:49I guess if it would be the workout
- 28:51of the day from CrossFit.com and you're
- 28:52following an instructor who's doing that
- 28:55particular workout of the day online,
- 28:58maybe, but I mean, our stuff,
- 29:01we're going for like four hundred meter
- 29:02runs.
- 29:03Are we just,
- 29:04is that instructor going to go for a
- 29:05four hundred meter run or they're just
- 29:06going to run on the spot?
- 29:09look at the time.
- 29:09Okay.
- 29:10It's been around two minutes.
- 29:11I'm going to go to the next movement.
- 29:12Follow me.
- 29:13Like our workouts are different than other
- 29:15types of workouts that are online.
- 29:18Like.
- 29:19So Mark Phillips says the zoom classes
- 29:21during COVID suck.
- 29:22This app is not for you.
- 29:23This app is not for you.
- 29:24It's not for me.
- 29:25It's not for Jamie.
- 29:26It's not for Carolyn.
- 29:27It's not for anybody in this chat.
- 29:28It is for a group of people that
- 29:30don't exist already.
- 29:33And to be closed minded to that just
- 29:35seems archaic to me.
- 29:38I told you I'm not close minded to
- 29:40it.
- 29:40I can see a world where you're trying
- 29:43to open it up to more people.
- 29:45Like I said,
- 29:45it's what it could be is you have
- 29:49foundational movements shown in the app so
- 29:52that like you have you can maybe follow
- 29:54a few things before going into the gym.
- 29:55I was like, you're you're on ramp.
- 29:58But like you still like you still want
- 30:00to be looked at by someone to look
- 30:02at your technique, though.
- 30:04but like you could show us maybe some
- 30:06basic stuff that you can do at home
- 30:08and have some videos there.
- 30:09But like we have all that on YouTube
- 30:10and I guess you just put it in
- 30:12an app.
- 30:13Yeah.
- 30:15I still,
- 30:15you want to draw people to the affiliate
- 30:17and I think it just will take that
- 30:18away.
- 30:20There is a different population of people
- 30:22that you're not going to get into the
- 30:24affiliate without convincing them of
- 30:27something first in a way that is
- 30:30different.
- 30:31And, and then what we do now,
- 30:34Honest to God,
- 30:35I can't believe we have lost fifty percent
- 30:37of our affiliates.
- 30:39This is... I love what we do.
- 30:41I love it for me.
- 30:42I love it for all of you.
- 30:44But if you're going to ever attract new
- 30:46people into this,
- 30:47we can't just keep banging our head
- 30:49against the wall.
- 30:54I don't know.
- 30:55I just...
- 30:57I feel like there needs to be some
- 31:00kind of open-mindedness to a different way
- 31:03of doing things.
- 31:06Not making...
- 31:09I think if we could get people back
- 31:14to reasonable rates in the gym and get
- 31:17people to come try it for a month
- 31:20free.
- 31:22That's where CrossFit needs to spend their
- 31:25money is...
- 31:26People is getting people to into your
- 31:30affiliate and for you in paying you to
- 31:32train these people like somehow you they
- 31:35need to provide us with with bodies and
- 31:37then we show them the magic like.
- 31:40People need to come in and and then
- 31:43realize that it's worth the money.
- 31:45The problem is it's so expensive that.
- 31:48like I'm not just going and spending two
- 31:51hundred dollars a month.
- 31:52And in your what what they're proposing
- 31:54means CrossFit is going to start costing
- 31:56three, four hundred dollars a month.
- 31:57And people are definitely not going to
- 31:59walk into the gym for that.
- 32:00No one like Planet Fitness is like,
- 32:02you know, ten bucks or twenty.
- 32:04I don't know what that is.
- 32:05Thirty bucks at most a month.
- 32:07And you could do the workout from CrossFit
- 32:09there with no coaching.
- 32:10And you could basically do your online app
- 32:13there.
- 32:13Why would you go into an affiliate?
- 32:16And like that defeats the purpose.
- 32:17Like you go in the affiliate for the
- 32:19community, the coaching,
- 32:21like the unique programming of their,
- 32:22like.
- 32:24We need to like get some type of
- 32:27onboarding for a hundred bucks for three
- 32:30months and,
- 32:32and get people in to try it.
- 32:33And then they, then they understand.
- 32:37I mean,
- 32:37they're not going to figure it out in
- 32:38a month.
- 32:38They're not going to make changes.
- 32:40You're making the same argument we've made
- 32:42for seven years.
- 32:44The same argument.
- 32:45And none of that has happened.
- 32:47None of that has worked.
- 32:49All they've done is raise.
- 32:51Yes.
- 32:52And everything.
- 32:53Owners are raising fees.
- 32:54It's not just CrossFit.
- 32:56It's everybody.
- 32:56To afford forty five hundred a year.
- 32:59Right.
- 33:00If you want it this way,
- 33:01you've got to pay for it.
- 33:03And you're saying we can't come up with
- 33:04any alternative to that.
- 33:06It's got to be in person.
- 33:07It's got to be on face-to-face.
- 33:10And because of rent, because of inflation,
- 33:13because of all the things,
- 33:14nobody can cut the cost.
- 33:17So if you want the magic,
- 33:19as Dent said earlier in the chat,
- 33:22for face-to-face,
- 33:23you've got to pay for it.
- 33:24But then there's this group that are being
- 33:25left out.
- 33:26Why can't we reach out to them in
- 33:28a different way?
- 33:29Shannon is saying street parking is
- 33:31successful.
- 33:32Why just give away that market?
- 33:34Why give it away to somebody else?
- 33:37Why can't CrossFit bring that in?
- 33:43It's a different group of people.
- 33:44I mean,
- 33:45those people left CrossFit to join street
- 33:48parking because it was too expensive.
- 33:52Like,
- 33:52you're not going to bring them back into
- 33:54a box.
- 33:56Like you could still, okay,
- 33:57you could still do CrossFit in your garage
- 34:00gym.
- 34:00People do it all the time.
- 34:01They practice the methodology and they do
- 34:04it by themselves instead of with a
- 34:06community, with the clock on,
- 34:08with the nutrition that they're following.
- 34:09They're still doing CrossFit,
- 34:10but like if we're trying to support the
- 34:12affiliates,
- 34:14then this is not the way to go
- 34:16to go towards a home model.
- 34:18That's what we're saying.
- 34:20And if you don't want to support the
- 34:21affiliates,
- 34:21then everything that we've had our whole
- 34:24CrossFit career,
- 34:26whatever is going to be gone because it's
- 34:27going to be a franchise.
- 34:29And then you won't have control over,
- 34:31let's say your programming or how you run
- 34:33your business, which is just,
- 34:35you may as well be another type of
- 34:39fitness thing.
- 34:40Thank you, Sarah Cox.
- 34:41This is what I'm saying.
- 34:42There has to be some evolution to the
- 34:44business or it's just going to keep
- 34:46diminishing.
- 34:48Like I said,
- 34:48we've gone from fifteen thousand to eight
- 34:50thousand.
- 34:51It's going to keep diminishing if we don't
- 34:52change and evolve.
- 34:56It just is.
- 34:59But I think what they're proposing is not
- 35:01CrossFit.
- 35:03I mean, they might,
- 35:04they may involve into something else,
- 35:06but it's not,
- 35:06it's not the methodology that we're
- 35:08brought up on.
- 35:09That's the only thing like, yeah,
- 35:10it can evolve.
- 35:11It can turn into something else.
- 35:13It can all of a sudden support.
- 35:15We are, we are, we're ascertaining that,
- 35:19that,
- 35:20that this is not what we're the CrossFit
- 35:22we know and love because we're,
- 35:24we're taking it from a document that
- 35:26wasn't even intended for us.
- 35:27It was intended for investors and,
- 35:30And we're trying to read into it what
- 35:32their exact plan is.
- 35:33And we don't even know what that is.
- 35:34We don't know what the app looks like.
- 35:36We don't know how it's going to function.
- 35:38We don't know any of those details.
- 35:44And this guy may not be the right
- 35:45person to take over CrossFit.
- 35:47I'm not even arguing for him.
- 35:49What I'm saying is whoever does needs to
- 35:52have an open mind to evolve and expand
- 35:56into different directions.
- 36:00I agree with that,
- 36:01that we need to try something else,
- 36:04but I don't think this is the way.
- 36:07Yeah, I mean,
- 36:09they're taking all of the things that Greg
- 36:12stood against,
- 36:15that empowered affiliate owners to do on
- 36:18their own, to build their own business.
- 36:22unique business and bring in more income
- 36:25and they're trying to capture that
- 36:26themselves and again you are taking from
- 36:30the affiliates nothing about this is going
- 36:33to help an affiliate owner
- 36:37make more money it's just pulling from
- 36:40whatever stream they may have had because
- 36:42now i've got to do your crossfit branded
- 36:45clothing in my gym and your supplements
- 36:48and i and i have to follow like
- 36:50it's it like that's against everything
- 36:52that it was built on and the way
- 36:56these some of these gyms grew to as
- 36:58big as they grew like they might as
- 37:00well go to a model where it's just
- 37:04Everyone pays twenty dollars straight to
- 37:05CrossFit and whatever.
- 37:07Go find it.
- 37:08Go find anywhere to go work out.
- 37:09And that's part of your like that's your
- 37:12twenty dollars a month is going straight
- 37:14to CrossFit.
- 37:14And it's just a personal thing like that's
- 37:16what they're kind of doing.
- 37:17You might as well just do that.
- 37:20Maybe you'll get millions of members that
- 37:21way.
- 37:21They'll probably make more money that way.
- 37:24Take the I guess take the affiliates right
- 37:26out of it.
- 37:28I don't think this is about taking
- 37:29affiliates out.
- 37:29And I think that you are, you are,
- 37:32you are assuming that everything is
- 37:34exclusive.
- 37:36I think it's just providing ways to make
- 37:38money.
- 37:38And yeah,
- 37:39I see the MLM words and I see
- 37:41all of that kind of stuff.
- 37:43That stuff makes me crazy too.
- 37:46But I don't know.
- 37:50I just,
- 37:51I think there are some good ideas in
- 37:53here.
- 37:54I think having a medical advisory board is
- 37:56a good thing if they're the right doctors.
- 37:59If they are like L-I MDs,
- 38:02I think that would be really cool.
- 38:05I do agree that I don't think that
- 38:08having education as part of this plan is
- 38:10a bad thing.
- 38:11There needs to be the education part.
- 38:13That is a crucial part to this whole
- 38:15thing.
- 38:15That's like the main part of what
- 38:17separates CrossFit is that it's a
- 38:19methodology and has a whole educational
- 38:21part to it.
- 38:22I think the merch does need rebranded.
- 38:24I think it's old and it's stale,
- 38:26and yay,
- 38:28they brought back Forging Elite Fitness,
- 38:29and yay,
- 38:30they brought back Pukie the Clown,
- 38:31but now what?
- 38:33What are you doing to make it new
- 38:36and innovative so people will wear the
- 38:38merchandise?
- 38:39I've been talking about it forever that it
- 38:41needs a fresh look.
- 38:48I don't know.
- 38:48I think there's a...
- 38:50The partnering with insurance to reduce
- 38:51premiums is a novel idea.
- 38:54I know that CrossFit has its own plan
- 38:56to do that now,
- 38:57and a lot of people have taken a
- 38:59part in that,
- 39:00and maybe that's the way to go.
- 39:02But I do think that that is a
- 39:03good idea.
- 39:08And then there's other stuff that I think
- 39:10is horrible in here.
- 39:12But I'm just saying like I hope whoever
- 39:15takes it over has an open mind to
- 39:17think about new ways of doing things to
- 39:19attract people in because we've lost so
- 39:23many affiliates and that has to stop.
- 39:31There was definitely some major things in
- 39:33like the last few years that decreased
- 39:35that like the...
- 39:37the affiliates, like obviously, like, um,
- 39:39Dan said,
- 39:40like the Greg selling off the media, um,
- 39:43taking off, you know,
- 39:44the Facebook or Instagram and all those
- 39:46followers, then you have COVID happens,
- 39:49which that just, you know,
- 39:51handcuffs so many people and a lot of
- 39:52people just couldn't keep up,
- 39:54couldn't keep their doors open.
- 39:55So we lost just a bunch of people
- 39:57there.
- 39:57Then you add the, um,
- 40:00the comments of floor
- 40:07the death at the games so it's like
- 40:09we haven't been able to really get back
- 40:13to you know those prior years of which
- 40:17is like when the growth was really
- 40:18happening and then we go and increase the
- 40:21affiliate fees too soon in my opinion
- 40:24where we lose a lot of you know
- 40:26affiliates once again so in these last
- 40:29like
- 40:30really five to seven years,
- 40:31like we've had some major things happen
- 40:34inside of our community that just hasn't
- 40:37allowed us to re-get the momentum.
- 40:40And I just feel like the increases in
- 40:42fees and now this,
- 40:44these ideas are just going to bring us
- 40:46another step backwards.
- 40:51Based on the pyramid nutrition,
- 40:52my biggest problem, nutrition,
- 40:53I rarely hear about nutrition.
- 40:55There's a whole section on nutrition in
- 40:57this business plan.
- 40:59Whether you agree with where they're going
- 41:01with it or not,
- 41:03I think they're using it as a business
- 41:07practice as much as anything,
- 41:10but their whole marketing scheme is to go
- 41:15from forging elite fitness to
- 41:17transformations, right?
- 41:19And so with transformations means
- 41:20nutrition.
- 41:21And so it is a big part of
- 41:23this.
- 41:37Scott is assuming the affiliates drop
- 41:38because of their unwilling to evolve.
- 41:40No, I think some went out of business.
- 41:42I think some got broke.
- 41:44It had nothing to do with evolving.
- 41:47But CrossFit has not evolved.
- 41:52Well, they have in a negative way.
- 41:56That would be devolving.
- 42:00Okay.
- 42:00Then that's what they've done.
- 42:01They've devolved.
- 42:06But I just don't think we've...
- 42:09taking enough time to like,
- 42:10like let's have the media back.
- 42:12Let's keep the affiliate fees low and do
- 42:14that for a sustained period of time and
- 42:16see if we can get back to that
- 42:18pre-twenty eighteen time where the growth
- 42:21is there.
- 42:21And then you add in,
- 42:22can we get the high rocks crowd to
- 42:24come to the affiliates?
- 42:25Because that's growing right now.
- 42:27And, you know, show them that you can,
- 42:30you know,
- 42:30perform in your sport while doing CrossFit
- 42:33and just maybe add more running because I
- 42:34mean, it's CrossFit.
- 42:35Yeah.
- 42:37but like just keep that longer without
- 42:39anything major happening.
- 42:41Well,
- 42:41that's the other problem with not evolving
- 42:43is now you have all of these copycat
- 42:46things out there as an option that were
- 42:48not there from twenty from two thousand
- 42:51seven to two thousand twenty.
- 42:54High rocks didn't exist back then.
- 42:58Metfix didn't exist back then.
- 43:00Now,
- 43:00all of a sudden you have all of
- 43:01these competitors that are doing things in
- 43:03a different way.
- 43:05And so people have options.
- 43:07Well,
- 43:07that's partially because the buy-in is too
- 43:10high.
- 43:12If it was still too...
- 43:12It's more than just cost, though.
- 43:14It's more than just cost.
- 43:21I would argue maybe for like twenty
- 43:24percent of those.
- 43:27I think a lot of the gyms would
- 43:31be affiliates if it was reasonable.
- 43:38But the separator in all of these
- 43:42different workout stuff that look a lot
- 43:44like CrossFit but don't say CrossFit is
- 43:46the coaching and the programming.
- 43:54So this is what happens, right?
- 43:56In the natural growth of a product.
- 43:58Say you have the nicest camera in the
- 44:01world and you release it and it goes
- 44:03for ten thousand dollars and Sony's the
- 44:06only person that has it because they
- 44:07trademarked it and they got it out.
- 44:10Then all of a sudden,
- 44:11all the trademarks start to expire on that
- 44:13and everybody can make copies of it.
- 44:16And because everybody can make copies of
- 44:17it,
- 44:18then the price comes down from ten
- 44:19thousand to three thousand.
- 44:22What's happened with CrossFit is
- 44:23everybody,
- 44:24there's nothing that can be trademarked
- 44:26about the methodology.
- 44:28So anybody can do CrossFit,
- 44:31they just can't call it that,
- 44:33at different gyms and call it something
- 44:34else.
- 44:36And because of that,
- 44:37the competition is more fierce today than
- 44:39it was fifteen years ago.
- 44:44And so you have to be open to
- 44:47new ideas
- 44:48Now,
- 44:49and to move in a different direction and
- 44:51to attract those people back to the
- 44:53original.
- 44:55And Kenneth DeLapp likes to say the
- 44:57original all the time.
- 44:59And there's one original CrossFit.
- 45:01Maybe that's what needs to be focused on
- 45:05to draw people back.
- 45:06But there are so many copycats out there.
- 45:09F-四ty-five and Orange Theory and all those
- 45:13different things that now compete.
- 45:19I just,
- 45:19it's a much harder time now and you've
- 45:22got to come up with newer and fresher
- 45:24ideas to compete against all the copycats.
- 45:35I hate to use this as an example,
- 45:36but Fergie is right.
- 45:37It's like GLP ones.
- 45:39Prices are dropping because the market is
- 45:41flooded with so many varieties.
- 45:53So at the end of the day,
- 45:59I love CrossFit.
- 46:00I want to do CrossFit, the original.
- 46:03I want to do what I signed up
- 46:04for in two thousand eleven.
- 46:06I want to go in person and do
- 46:08it.
- 46:08But I am not the person that they
- 46:10are trying to attract when they buy
- 46:11CrossFit.
- 46:14That's all I'm saying.
- 46:22So.
- 46:24If you want to see the full details
- 46:25of this business plan, go to thespin,
- 46:30barbellspin.com.
- 46:31There's a link in the story to the
- 46:33full document.
- 46:38And yeah,
- 46:40and then they did a two-hour podcast this
- 46:42afternoon at noon.
- 46:43Go check that out where they went through
- 46:45all of the things that are being talked
- 46:48about in the podcast.
- 46:57So anyway,
- 46:57the audience that they're trying to
- 46:58attract is just new audience.
- 47:00I mean, that's the issue.
- 47:03But yeah, it is.
- 47:05It's building a quality CrossFit,
- 47:07like quality CrossFit gyms.
- 47:10is important.
- 47:11And I think like they took step towards
- 47:13that, like forcing, you know,
- 47:15an L two instead of just having an
- 47:16L one,
- 47:17like those are steps to having better
- 47:20quality coaches in your gym and like
- 47:24better run affiliates.
- 47:26And I think when the quality,
- 47:27when the product is, you know,
- 47:29high quality, that will naturally attract,
- 47:32um,
- 47:32people to come in and it just would
- 47:36take time i mean i obviously we don't
- 47:37have the time because you need the money
- 47:39people like us sure but the people not
- 47:42like us are not being attracted in are
- 47:45not even don't even know about it or
- 47:47don't even know what it's about like
- 47:51there's no education to people outside our
- 47:53circle
- 47:58But that's where the media stuff comes in.
- 48:02And if you invest in that...
- 48:05But none of our media goes to outside
- 48:06the circle people.
- 48:08All of our media is attracted to get
- 48:10back to the roots,
- 48:11to get the people already inside our
- 48:16bubble to buy back in.
- 48:20That has to evolve too.
- 48:22That messaging has to evolve.
- 48:30right let's move on to some other stuff
- 48:32um i have some stuff here i know
- 48:37you wanted to talk about machines carolyn
- 48:39let's get that out of the way because
- 48:40i know that's um no just
- 48:48I just felt like all week I just
- 48:50kept hearing about machines are like
- 48:51basically bad.
- 48:53And I, I mean, I'm not the big,
- 48:55like a big athlete and stuff like that,
- 48:57but, and I don't think they should be,
- 48:59you know, the crooks crux of the workout,
- 49:02you know,
- 49:02of many workouts at the games or in
- 49:05a competition in general.
- 49:07But I think to say that, like,
- 49:09let's just replace a row with a sumo
- 49:13deadlift, like high pull or something.
- 49:15It's like,
- 49:16There's a lot of value in using a
- 49:18machine and training.
- 49:20If you don't want to have like a
- 49:21loaded implement,
- 49:22if you don't want to have,
- 49:24if you don't want to keep squatting,
- 49:25but you still want to have something
- 49:27that's leg dependent going into another
- 49:30movement.
- 49:31And like, you don't just do a,
- 49:33like a machine just to put in there
- 49:35just to do a machine.
- 49:37So I think there's a lot of value
- 49:38there.
- 49:39Honestly,
- 49:39just to build your capacity and those
- 49:42skills.
- 49:43like just like your conditioning in
- 49:45general, your power as well,
- 49:48or just to have a certain stimulus in
- 49:50a workout without it always being the most
- 49:53important factor of why people are doing
- 49:55well in a certain test.
- 49:58But I think that there is value to
- 50:00them.
- 50:00Like these machines that we're using,
- 50:04like they do favor, you know, bigger,
- 50:06taller athletes.
- 50:09And I think just if you program it
- 50:11the right way,
- 50:13Like they don't need to,
- 50:14like they're not necessarily bad.
- 50:17It's not like it's a treadmill that you're
- 50:20pressing a button and you're connected to
- 50:22that speed.
- 50:22Like you're still having to move it with
- 50:25your body.
- 50:25It's just, yeah, I don't know.
- 50:29I just think like it was so,
- 50:29people have been so negative about the
- 50:31machines,
- 50:31but I think there's a lot of like,
- 50:35hypocrite too like they'll be like oh
- 50:37don't use machines now i'm like you
- 50:38program machines all time you're on a
- 50:40machine all time um so yeah crossfit asks
- 50:45i think machines are like scanned from
- 50:46paper standardize the test but does it
- 50:49change the effectiveness of how you learn
- 50:52There's a lot to learn though on machines.
- 50:54And like, if you can coach,
- 50:56like you can teach people how to row
- 50:57properly.
- 50:57Like people are not rowing properly all
- 50:59the time.
- 51:00What to look at, how to, you know,
- 51:02look at the screen,
- 51:03what you should be looking at for your
- 51:04pacing or your average,
- 51:05or if you're wadding, your watts.
- 51:10Like, I'm not just talking about you,
- 51:13Hiller.
- 51:13Like,
- 51:14get what the program was talking about it.
- 51:16Let's just replace everything without
- 51:17machines.
- 51:18And it'd be the same thing.
- 51:19It's like, not necessarily.
- 51:22I think it's different, but I don't know.
- 51:26I don't think that they're bad and they
- 51:28can definitely be very useful in training.
- 51:31I think they're great for training.
- 51:34I do not like them in competition the
- 51:37way they've been used lately.
- 51:39Not the amount that they've been used.
- 51:41Right.
- 51:41But I think that in training,
- 51:43they're really good.
- 51:46And they're a great tool to work on
- 51:51different things.
- 51:51And like I said,
- 51:52I don't need to have a loaded implement
- 51:55to...
- 51:58if I want to,
- 51:58if I want to add a bike in
- 51:59there and just get the legs burning, like,
- 52:01it's not like you're lollygagging on an
- 52:03optical,
- 52:04like it was being described on get with
- 52:06the program.
- 52:06Like that's not what it is.
- 52:08Like you're frigging dying the time on
- 52:10those machines or you're feeling the
- 52:11lactic acid or just,
- 52:13it could be a flush sometimes.
- 52:14Um, but there is value to it.
- 52:16Yeah.
- 52:19Yeah.
- 52:20And like,
- 52:21you don't need to load your like load
- 52:23up something.
- 52:23You don't need to wait for everything.
- 52:25Like we need monostructural gymnastics,
- 52:28weightlifting and different combinations.
- 52:29And like when you live in certain
- 52:31countries, like it's cold.
- 52:32Like we do want some variance a little
- 52:35bit.
- 52:36We can't do a four hundred meter outside
- 52:38in the winter.
- 52:41I caught the elliptical to CrossFit.
- 52:44I don't know what elliptical or something.
- 52:48I was like, wait, what?
- 52:50Did I say it weird?
- 52:51Elliptical?
- 52:53When I first started CrossFit,
- 52:55there were no machines in my gym.
- 52:57We had to do the sumo deadlift high
- 52:59pull for rowing substitutions.
- 53:02We had no skier.
- 53:03We had no runners.
- 53:05It would be running.
- 53:06It would be bicycle outside.
- 53:08Again, when you're in cold climates,
- 53:10we'll do shuttle runs, I guess.
- 53:12We'll do skipping.
- 53:13We can box jump, stuff like that.
- 53:16Just because it's not necessarily...
- 53:20I don't know, like with like, you're,
- 53:24you're not like moving in actual place.
- 53:27Like I still think that they can be
- 53:28used properly and they add variants to,
- 53:31to workouts and different stimulus.
- 53:35Yeah.
- 53:35I, I can see the argument, you know,
- 53:38if you've squatted all week and you're,
- 53:40you don't really need to do that to
- 53:41your joints anymore and not being on a
- 53:42bike and is, but it, I,
- 53:45it also goes,
- 53:47I feel like maybe a little hand in
- 53:48hand with,
- 53:50what how CrossFit has evolved into this
- 53:54being more accessible to everybody.
- 53:57And like I was saying earlier,
- 53:59like in the beginning,
- 54:02we were we were the machines that has
- 54:05been brought up in here.
- 54:06And it was a mindset to keep picking
- 54:10up that barbell and keep moving.
- 54:12So, and now it's just like,
- 54:15just go get on that bike and start
- 54:16pedaling.
- 54:16And is the intensity there or are they
- 54:19just coasting through it?
- 54:20Like it was a way to get people
- 54:22in and just continuously moving.
- 54:24And it's,
- 54:26it appeals to a client who is probably
- 54:31not quite in the true OG CrossFit mindset.
- 54:37So Hillary throws out three rounds,
- 54:38fifty wall ball, fifty deadlift,
- 54:40one thirty five ninety five or fifty forty
- 54:43calorie row.
- 54:44The deadlift is better depending on the
- 54:46why.
- 54:46Of course.
- 54:50Thoughts.
- 54:58I think it's different.
- 55:01What was the pull that back up like
- 55:02a like a like a light deadlift instead
- 55:04of like a fifty forty cal row?
- 55:10yeah i don't i mean different like all
- 55:13the workouts are a little bit different
- 55:14like it's yeah i feel like i personally
- 55:23would prefer the wobble deadlift one i
- 55:26mean i'm gonna choose a light deadlift bar
- 55:28any day yeah or anything but
- 55:33I just think that there's still value.
- 55:34It's just overvalued right now.
- 55:36It's the biggest part of a lot of
- 55:38the workout.
- 55:38It's the determining factor of you getting
- 55:41a lead in a workout right now that's
- 55:44getting tested all the time.
- 55:46That's the issue.
- 55:47It's overused in competition as the main
- 55:51part of the workout.
- 55:52I totally agree that that's my issue,
- 55:54not the actual implementing of machines in
- 55:58your training and to develop different
- 56:00capacities or having certain stimulus in
- 56:02workouts.
- 56:04That is a separate thing.
- 56:06You can build a lot of like your
- 56:09base in training using these machines.
- 56:12It's the testing of the machines.
- 56:13Just like there's some movements or
- 56:14implements that are better in training
- 56:16than they are in testing.
- 56:18Does that mean that we avoid them?
- 56:19No.
- 56:20Strict ring muscle ups, certain sleds,
- 56:22to be honest,
- 56:23because of the friction factor,
- 56:24great testing or great training tools,
- 56:29stuff that you should be doing.
- 56:31harder to implement in actual testing.
- 56:36I mean, machines are good, but again,
- 56:39there can be changes sometimes between
- 56:41machines at the game.
- 56:43Some eco bikes, let's say,
- 56:44are faster than others, or assault bikes,
- 56:47just calibrated a little bit differently.
- 56:50But again, great training piece.
- 56:54Sometimes you have to make sure that
- 56:55they're all standardized because it's not
- 56:57something that is naturally
- 57:00same for every for everyone um like the
- 57:03altitude can play a factor too like if
- 57:05you're throwing a an assault bike online
- 57:08for a competition where you do it matters
- 57:11over your fitness yeah so like those are
- 57:14things to take into account like if we're
- 57:16going to be adding machines online because
- 57:20not everyone's at the same altitude and in
- 57:22certain wind stuff it plays a factor
- 57:27All right.
- 57:28Let's get, let's get positive.
- 57:30Um,
- 57:31I knew we were going to be busy
- 57:32tonight, so I,
- 57:33we're only doing half the bracket of
- 57:35sports movies.
- 57:37Um,
- 57:37and I'll go ahead and I'll share the
- 57:39brackets with you and we'll do a live
- 57:43poll.
- 57:44Oh boy.
- 57:51So let's see.
- 57:51Yeah.
- 57:51I haven't seen the top and we start
- 57:53with foot.
- 57:54We start with combat, uh,
- 57:58You would, Starla.
- 57:59You put Rocky IV as rank thirty-second,
- 58:04and Rocky, your original Rocky,
- 58:06is ranked number one.
- 58:07The audacity.
- 58:08Listen.
- 58:10i did not rank them i just put
- 58:12them into to the parts of the bracket
- 58:15okay that got them together um i did
- 58:17not pay attention to the numbers to the
- 58:19side what we'll do is we'll do a
- 58:20live poll and whatever wins the poll in
- 58:23one minute we'll move on and then we're
- 58:25just going to go through pretty quickly um
- 58:28with all this first time i've done
- 58:35uh this so uh with the poll so
- 58:39we will start this now number four people
- 58:44number four how does this work do i
- 58:47go in the live in the chat should
- 58:48something pop up is it popping up not
- 58:55yet i have to type it out i'm
- 58:58getting ready because four is like my
- 59:00favorite movie rocky four is with drago
- 59:04yes
- 59:06out to rocky tough beat rocky did not
- 59:12win the first movie rocky two is the
- 59:14better movie both rocky two is not on
- 59:18here so sorry oh my heart's hurting right
- 59:25now come on people we'll go one come
- 59:30back
- 59:35Oh, where'd the poll go?
- 59:37I tried to bring it up.
- 59:38It just minimizes after a little bit just
- 59:40to see.
- 59:43Oh, I didn't vote.
- 59:44Are you voting for like different devices?
- 59:47What's going on right now?
- 59:48I'm not voting at all.
- 59:52I do want to say I just saw
- 59:55F one on Friday night.
- 59:57Very good movie.
- 59:58But F one steals all the good stuff
- 1:00:02from all the sports movies.
- 1:00:05All right,
- 1:00:05we are at the end of the minute.
- 1:00:06End the poll.
- 1:00:09And Rocky wins.
- 1:00:09Shocked.
- 1:00:14So now I need to go to the
- 1:00:15bracket.
- 1:00:17Rocky is the winner.
- 1:00:19Okay, there's seventy-two of you, Ellen,
- 1:00:21here, and I only see twenty-nine votes.
- 1:00:23We got to start voting, people.
- 1:00:25A lot of you guys didn't vote there.
- 1:00:28All right.
- 1:00:30So now the next poll is...
- 1:00:35Larry tried to vote on multiple platforms,
- 1:00:36Carolyn, and he said it won't let you.
- 1:00:39The soundtrack for Rocky IV is so good.
- 1:00:44But it's not a better movie.
- 1:00:46It is.
- 1:00:51So we have Warrior and Three Ninjas.
- 1:00:57Okay, Warrior or Three Ninjas chat.
- 1:01:00You need to get on and open the
- 1:01:01live chat.
- 1:01:03Three Ninjas.
- 1:01:04You're watching.
- 1:01:05Get on and vote.
- 1:01:10Open the live chat, everybody, and vote.
- 1:01:15Although Jamie just told you that.
- 1:01:18Warrior is an amazing UFC movie.
- 1:01:21Why is it losing so badly?
- 1:01:23Because three ninjas.
- 1:01:24Did you watch it this week?
- 1:01:26I did not.
- 1:01:28It's so good.
- 1:01:38And Frank, for your would you rather,
- 1:01:40that was way... Who asked me?
- 1:01:43I would do the Frank three-hour chat with
- 1:01:46Frank about CrossFit over the concert.
- 1:01:59I think you've got to shorten the time
- 1:02:00to like... I think a minute's okay.
- 1:02:04Yeah?
- 1:02:05Yeah.
- 1:02:05I don't know that everyone is always
- 1:02:08perfectly live as part of the problem.
- 1:02:10That's true.
- 1:02:12I mean, once it's up, it's up,
- 1:02:13I guess.
- 1:02:14We're just going for this round,
- 1:02:16not the next round.
- 1:02:17Yeah.
- 1:02:17Okay, that's fine.
- 1:02:18I thought we were going to have to
- 1:02:20do a bunch.
- 1:02:20I was like,
- 1:02:20we're going to have to speed this up.
- 1:02:24Well, I guess I don't know.
- 1:02:25Are you going all the way into the
- 1:02:26finals, Scott?
- 1:02:31Yeah, I think thirty seconds is plenty.
- 1:02:32Yeah, I guess you could do.
- 1:02:37We've turned it into the dual of rogue.
- 1:02:40Yeah, this is, we have it in there.
- 1:02:42We got to,
- 1:02:43we got to adapt right now.
- 1:02:47Evolve or die.
- 1:02:48Scott, the road caster died.
- 1:02:51So I had to, I don't know.
- 1:02:54Three ninjas.
- 1:02:55There it is.
- 1:02:56Okay.
- 1:02:57All right.
- 1:02:57So now karate kid and the wrestler.
- 1:03:00Oh, easy peg.
- 1:03:02Okay.
- 1:03:02Yeah.
- 1:03:07The chat wants thirty to forty five
- 1:03:09seconds.
- 1:03:20Come on.
- 1:03:23I'm one in one right now.
- 1:03:29All right.
- 1:03:30So let's go.
- 1:03:35Perfect.
- 1:03:37Oh, that's kind of overwhelming there,
- 1:03:40huh?
- 1:03:41This one's an easy one.
- 1:03:42Yeah,
- 1:03:43I hate that my roadcaster keeps dying
- 1:03:46every week.
- 1:03:47You guys can hear me now, right?
- 1:03:48Yeah, we can hear you.
- 1:03:48Yeah, you're good.
- 1:03:51Yeah, I think this one is done already.
- 1:03:53That one went quick.
- 1:03:57Yeah.
- 1:03:59We'll go ahead and end the poll.
- 1:04:00That one is a slam dunk.
- 1:04:02Yep.
- 1:04:05So...
- 1:04:07Karate Kid is the winner.
- 1:04:10Now we've got the fighter and
- 1:04:12million-dollar baby.
- 1:04:13Ooh.
- 1:04:21Ooh.
- 1:04:21Hmm.
- 1:04:21Okay.
- 1:04:22I'm ready.
- 1:04:33Hmm.
- 1:04:38All right, here we go.
- 1:04:39Pulls up.
- 1:04:40I like Million Dollar Baby here.
- 1:04:44Both won Academy Awards.
- 1:04:46Really?
- 1:04:48Yeah.
- 1:04:49Christian Bale won for The Fighter.
- 1:04:52Hilary Swank won for Million Dollar Baby.
- 1:04:57think actually million dollar baby won
- 1:04:59like ford clint eastwood won for direction
- 1:05:02uh morgan freeman won for best supporting
- 1:05:04actor hillary swank won for best actress
- 1:05:09and neck hit that chair and this one's
- 1:05:15over so million dollar baby makes it out
- 1:05:20of that round
- 1:05:26Ken didn't like fighter apparently.
- 1:05:28Now we'll finish the combat and then we'll
- 1:05:29move on to football.
- 1:05:31Okay.
- 1:05:32So now we have Rocky and three ninjas.
- 1:05:39You talked three ninjas up so much.
- 1:05:42And I'm so mad that Rocky took over
- 1:05:44Rocky four.
- 1:05:45Not happy with the,
- 1:05:46with the chat right now.
- 1:05:49You know,
- 1:05:50you're just putting Rocky into the trap.
- 1:05:51Disappointed me.
- 1:05:57Shelly Young, she likes the happy endings.
- 1:05:58Yeah,
- 1:05:58Million Dollar Baby is a great movie,
- 1:06:00but it is not happy.
- 1:06:03So the poll is live.
- 1:06:04Rocky Three Ninjas.
- 1:06:08Oh,
- 1:06:08this one looks like it's going to be
- 1:06:09a slam dunk as well.
- 1:06:10You can call us on early.
- 1:06:15With the vote in from Massachusetts,
- 1:06:18we have named Rocky the winner.
- 1:06:24KDL is boycotting the voting anymore.
- 1:06:29So Rocky moves on.
- 1:06:34And now it's going to be between Karate
- 1:06:36Kid and Million Dollar Baby.
- 1:06:41Okay.
- 1:06:43I hit the wrong button.
- 1:06:46Wax on, wax off.
- 1:06:47Sorry,
- 1:06:49I didn't find a group or device you'd
- 1:06:51like.
- 1:06:51Karate Kid
- 1:06:56Million dollar baby.
- 1:07:03Mark, what are we going to get,
- 1:07:04twenty-five votes this time?
- 1:07:07Let's see.
- 1:07:15You guys better vote Karate Kid.
- 1:07:17Come on.
- 1:07:17No swaying the... Oh my goodness.
- 1:07:22Twenty-five votes?
- 1:07:25Is that what we're kind of holding steady
- 1:07:26yet?
- 1:07:26That's how many people are voting.
- 1:07:28Yeah.
- 1:07:28Yep.
- 1:07:29Another slam dunk.
- 1:07:32So we'll go ahead and then this karate
- 1:07:34kid makes it to the finals of the
- 1:07:37combat sports movies.
- 1:07:42This is a tough one.
- 1:07:43Champion will come down between Rocky and
- 1:07:49karate kid.
- 1:07:51Drum roll.
- 1:08:08Cobra Kai is a TV series, Fergie,
- 1:08:11not a movie.
- 1:08:20Oh, Oh, come on.
- 1:08:21I think we can call this one closer,
- 1:08:28but yeah.
- 1:08:30And the winner of the combat movies was
- 1:08:34Rocky.
- 1:08:38So now we can go to the football.
- 1:08:41We'll see how far we get with this.
- 1:08:43And then maybe we won't be as busy
- 1:08:44next week and can do more.
- 1:08:48Okay.
- 1:08:48Football's going to be hard.
- 1:08:49Holy smokes.
- 1:08:51So football is...
- 1:08:53Did it not move for me?
- 1:08:56Okay, there we go.
- 1:08:57Are these based off of the voting of
- 1:08:59last week?
- 1:09:00Like from the chat?
- 1:09:02The people in it, the rankings are not.
- 1:09:04The rankings have nothing to do...
- 1:09:08Is this like a generic March Madness
- 1:09:10bracket that just had numbers on it?
- 1:09:11It's just a bracket website where you can
- 1:09:14pick how many and then it kind of
- 1:09:17does it out.
- 1:09:18So we have any given Sunday.
- 1:09:22Versus Rudy.
- 1:09:23So Ken, they're not ranked that way.
- 1:09:26Like just because you see twenty eight
- 1:09:27next to Rudy, they're not seated.
- 1:09:29Scott just threw him up there.
- 1:09:31The numbers were pre-populated on this.
- 1:09:33Right.
- 1:09:34So it was hard enough to just get
- 1:09:36them.
- 1:09:39any just pretend they all are like the
- 1:09:44same two or one exactly any given sunday
- 1:09:51versus rudy sorry typing slow i'm in
- 1:10:01there's only one oh whoa come on folks
- 1:10:04what the heck
- 1:10:08I'm shocked.
- 1:10:12Oh, it's tight.
- 1:10:14I am shocked.
- 1:10:16We're at twenty five votes.
- 1:10:17Do we call it?
- 1:10:18Yeah, that's what's been voting.
- 1:10:19That's what?
- 1:10:20Oh, twenty six.
- 1:10:21Oh, twenty six.
- 1:10:24Twenty six.
- 1:10:24I can't believe it.
- 1:10:26Rudy.
- 1:10:27I'm shocked.
- 1:10:31A lot of underdogs in the chat, then.
- 1:10:33So what's weird is I'm doing the poll
- 1:10:35like live on YouTube and you can't see
- 1:10:39the bracket move.
- 1:10:40So I'm going to stop sharing,
- 1:10:41move the bracket,
- 1:10:43and then I'll share again.
- 1:10:45Okay.
- 1:10:46KDL,
- 1:10:46we're back to twenty six voters because
- 1:10:48KDL is no longer boycotting.
- 1:10:51Okay.
- 1:10:55All right.
- 1:10:55So Rudy is on.
- 1:10:57Now we have.
- 1:10:59Little Giants and The Replacements.
- 1:11:03That's a tough one.
- 1:11:04That is a tough one.
- 1:11:08All right.
- 1:11:17I like these two movies a lot,
- 1:11:18but one of these was in my top
- 1:11:19five last week.
- 1:11:22That's true.
- 1:11:26Oh.
- 1:11:34And looks like the Jets liking these
- 1:11:37underdog people and teams.
- 1:11:43I mean,
- 1:11:43I guess little giants was underdog too.
- 1:11:50Oh, I see what I've done.
- 1:11:55I actually have paused the video.
- 1:11:56Okay.
- 1:11:58The replacements gets the win.
- 1:12:01So it moves on.
- 1:12:05And now we go to remember the Titans
- 1:12:08versus the longest yard.
- 1:12:11Okay.
- 1:12:11Nineteen seventy four version.
- 1:12:14Okay.
- 1:12:17Anything with children playing sports is a
- 1:12:20no vote for me.
- 1:12:21Why?
- 1:12:26Children not be playing sports.
- 1:12:30So this is the Burt Reynolds longest yard,
- 1:12:32not the Adam Sandler longest yard.
- 1:12:40It still shouldn't matter.
- 1:12:46We're already at twenty six.
- 1:12:48That's our number.
- 1:12:48All right.
- 1:12:50It is called.
- 1:12:55Remember, the Titans gets the win.
- 1:12:58Freaking great movie.
- 1:13:01And now we have I forgot to end
- 1:13:05the poll.
- 1:13:06OK.
- 1:13:11We have Friday Night Lights.
- 1:13:17You put my two next to each other.
- 1:13:19This is too hard.
- 1:13:20Varsity Blues.
- 1:13:22Okay.
- 1:13:31This is tough,
- 1:13:35but I picked one over the other last
- 1:13:36week, so...
- 1:13:42Wow, chat.
- 1:13:47Come on, let's get up there.
- 1:13:51Three more of you.
- 1:13:57And I don't want your life.
- 1:14:05We're going to call it and it is
- 1:14:07front end lights.
- 1:14:09mean varsity blues did okay it wasn't a
- 1:14:12complete wash what was the closest one so
- 1:14:15far it was a karate kid uh it
- 1:14:17was rocky rocky four oh yeah yeah all
- 1:14:21right now we're back up to the top
- 1:14:23rudy versus the replacements hmm
- 1:14:40and we're live okay i agree the friday
- 1:14:49night lights show was better than the
- 1:14:50movie i agree listening to the show versus
- 1:14:58watching it's going to be a tough thirty
- 1:15:00minutes yeah it's yeah because i can't see
- 1:15:06the and pull
- 1:15:08We'll give it ten more seconds in case
- 1:15:10one more person wants to vote because we
- 1:15:12are fifty four forty six.
- 1:15:14Oh, that's tight.
- 1:15:14Come on.
- 1:15:15There's seventy four.
- 1:15:19Five, four, three, two, one.
- 1:15:24And pull the replacements beats out Rudy.
- 1:15:28An underdog beats the underdog.
- 1:15:38And then we now go Friday night lights
- 1:15:41and remember the Titans.
- 1:15:43All right.
- 1:15:58And we are live.
- 1:16:06Fitty-fifty.
- 1:16:08Oh, this is close.
- 1:16:11No, never mind.
- 1:16:13It was close for two seconds.
- 1:16:18We're up to twenty seven votes.
- 1:16:20Holly,
- 1:16:21you need to watch more sports movies.
- 1:16:25And this is a runaway for remember the
- 1:16:28Titans.
- 1:16:33Such a good movie.
- 1:16:34It is such a good movie.
- 1:16:35And for the best football movie of all
- 1:16:38time, we have The Replacements,
- 1:16:46which I wouldn't have thought would have
- 1:16:47made it this far.
- 1:16:48Yeah, I agree.
- 1:16:50Oops.
- 1:16:53Shoot.
- 1:17:00If any good Sunday would be Rudy in
- 1:17:01the first place,
- 1:17:02I feel like it'd be up here.
- 1:17:05Like Rocky four.
- 1:17:06I don't know what happened there.
- 1:17:10So replacements versus remember the Titans
- 1:17:13for the championship.
- 1:17:16Boom.
- 1:17:17Ten seconds.
- 1:17:18This one will be done.
- 1:17:21Yeah, this one could.
- 1:17:24This one could be.
- 1:17:25Yeah, this is a lopsided one.
- 1:17:27Yeah, we'll go ahead and end this.
- 1:17:29Remember the Titans,
- 1:17:30the greatest football movie of all time.
- 1:17:39All right.
- 1:17:41Do we want to do baseball?
- 1:17:43Knock that one out.
- 1:17:44Sure.
- 1:17:44We can get it done in about ten
- 1:17:45minutes.
- 1:17:46We'll still be under an hour and a
- 1:17:47half.
- 1:17:47All right.
- 1:17:49Here we go.
- 1:17:50Major League versus the Sandlot.
- 1:17:53Okay.
- 1:17:55I think baseball is one of the strongest
- 1:17:57brackets.
- 1:17:59Yeah.
- 1:18:05We were quick with that one, Shelly.
- 1:18:17Here we go.
- 1:18:17Ooh, that's way closer than I expected.
- 1:18:21Oh my goodness.
- 1:18:23Oh my gosh.
- 1:18:25Literally fifty-fifty.
- 1:18:27Oh my.
- 1:18:28What do we do?
- 1:18:29Someone vote.
- 1:18:29Someone vote.
- 1:18:30There's sixty-eight of you.
- 1:18:31Come on.
- 1:18:32There we go.
- 1:18:34Yes.
- 1:18:36In five, four, three, two, one.
- 1:18:44You need a winner.
- 1:18:45Don't.
- 1:18:46There it goes.
- 1:18:49Major League gets the win.
- 1:18:51What?
- 1:18:52Forty-two, forty-eight.
- 1:18:54Fifty-two, forty-eight.
- 1:18:55Who voted?
- 1:18:56Holy shit.
- 1:18:58That was a tight one.
- 1:19:02How does Sandlot lose?
- 1:19:03Come on, people.
- 1:19:04I don't know.
- 1:19:04All right.
- 1:19:08Now we go Field of Dreams in a
- 1:19:10league of their own.
- 1:19:11Oh, my gosh.
- 1:19:12Why'd you put these two together?
- 1:19:14Look at the baseball movies.
- 1:19:15They are incredible.
- 1:19:19This is so... Oh, man.
- 1:19:27Damn.
- 1:19:28That was a close one.
- 1:19:29You were like calling it quits and it
- 1:19:30was fifty-fifty.
- 1:19:31I was like,
- 1:19:31you can't close the poll right now.
- 1:19:35I waited till it went up one more
- 1:19:37and then it... Yep, it did.
- 1:19:38It clicked over right when you said it.
- 1:19:42All right, Field of Dreams,
- 1:19:44a league of their own.
- 1:19:45If you build it.
- 1:19:47This one's close, too.
- 1:19:48Oh, my gosh.
- 1:19:49I can't believe it's not that stressful.
- 1:19:52Come on, people.
- 1:19:53It's kind of stressful.
- 1:19:53I'm overstimulated.
- 1:19:54Oh, my goodness.
- 1:19:57No way.
- 1:19:59All right, five, four, three.
- 1:20:03No way.
- 1:20:05One.
- 1:20:07Yes.
- 1:20:08A league of their own,
- 1:20:10fifty-four to forty-six.
- 1:20:13Damn,
- 1:20:13these are really tight in the baseball.
- 1:20:15I'm shocked.
- 1:20:18Field of Dreams is one of my favorite
- 1:20:20movies ever.
- 1:20:20Poor Dream to Learn is just losing.
- 1:20:23Shelly,
- 1:20:23you might need to like close the check,
- 1:20:26like completely close your YouTube and
- 1:20:28bring it back up.
- 1:20:29Yeah.
- 1:20:30I had to close my chat completely and
- 1:20:31bring it back up.
- 1:20:33All right,
- 1:20:33we got Moneyball and For Love of the
- 1:20:38Game.
- 1:20:39Well, see,
- 1:20:39you could have moved Field of Dreams
- 1:20:40against one of these two.
- 1:20:44You're going to have to play everybody.
- 1:20:49But the top of the bracket's more stacked.
- 1:20:52Yes.
- 1:20:59Like,
- 1:20:59Field of Dreams probably should have won
- 1:21:00this whole bracket,
- 1:21:01and now it's not even in.
- 1:21:04If it can't beat a league of their
- 1:21:05own, it's not going to beat it later.
- 1:21:08Those were the top two in the bracket.
- 1:21:09Yeah.
- 1:21:12All right, here we go.
- 1:21:12It's another tight one.
- 1:21:14Five, four, three, two, one.
- 1:21:20End poll.
- 1:21:22Moneyball, fifty to forty.
- 1:21:26Wow.
- 1:21:27So close.
- 1:21:27All of them.
- 1:21:29All of these baseball ones have been just.
- 1:21:34So close.
- 1:21:37You say I did a bad job,
- 1:21:38but everyone has been like within.
- 1:21:40Yeah.
- 1:21:41They've all been like one.
- 1:21:43Yeah.
- 1:21:43But that's part of the problem.
- 1:21:44They're too, like,
- 1:21:45I'm telling you field of dreams,
- 1:21:46but on there,
- 1:21:47it would have been not that close.
- 1:21:50This is just like your affiliate fee
- 1:21:52thing.
- 1:21:52I'm done with you.
- 1:21:54Terry agrees with me.
- 1:21:56All right.
- 1:21:59Or the natural.
- 1:22:03Okay.
- 1:22:03Forty-two Chadwick Boseman's best movie
- 1:22:05ever.
- 1:22:07Way better than Black Panther.
- 1:22:11Oh, this.
- 1:22:14Oh, man, chat.
- 1:22:15Oh, man.
- 1:22:16Uh-oh, this one.
- 1:22:22This one is not close.
- 1:22:23Yeah, this is not as close.
- 1:22:27All right, we'll close it there.
- 1:22:29I don't know the natural either.
- 1:22:31Robert Redford?
- 1:22:32Mm-mm.
- 1:22:34I didn't see... American Icon.
- 1:22:36I didn't see Forty-Two either.
- 1:22:39Oh.
- 1:22:39I voted on a... Just kind of guess.
- 1:22:44Oh my gosh, I love these.
- 1:22:45Maybe it's because I'm old,
- 1:22:46but I love these two movies.
- 1:22:49So The Natural gets... Moves forward.
- 1:22:56All right, now...
- 1:22:57You needed an audit of this bracket before
- 1:22:59you released it.
- 1:23:01Oh my gosh.
- 1:23:01Is it?
- 1:23:05Now we go major league.
- 1:23:11A league of their own.
- 1:23:14Megan, did you vote for forty two?
- 1:23:21I voted forty two and I haven't seen
- 1:23:23it.
- 1:23:23I voted forty two, too.
- 1:23:24That was one of my picks from last
- 1:23:25week.
- 1:23:30What is happening?
- 1:23:34It is fifty fifty.
- 1:23:36All right.
- 1:23:36Oh, my God.
- 1:23:37What?
- 1:23:39Major League.
- 1:23:39Come on, Joe Boo.
- 1:23:43I not hit curveball.
- 1:23:49All right.
- 1:23:50Five, four, three, two, one.
- 1:23:57Another close one.
- 1:23:58A league of their own.
- 1:24:01What a damn shame.
- 1:24:03Wow.
- 1:24:07Are you going to post the full bracket
- 1:24:09or are you just going to post the
- 1:24:10finalists like the next round?
- 1:24:13I think at the end,
- 1:24:13I'll post it all.
- 1:24:15It's big, though.
- 1:24:16It's big.
- 1:24:17You're going to do a few pages on
- 1:24:19your Instagram, maybe.
- 1:24:22Okay.
- 1:24:24All right.
- 1:24:24Last.
- 1:24:25Here we go.
- 1:24:26For the finals of baseball,
- 1:24:28we have Moneyball and The Natural.
- 1:24:33Oh, man.
- 1:24:34This is a semifinal.
- 1:24:35Okay.
- 1:24:49Lower.
- 1:24:50Are you voting?
- 1:24:57No.
- 1:25:04And five, four, three, two, one.
- 1:25:15And The Natural gets the win.
- 1:25:20Yeah,
- 1:25:20I do not know what that movie is.
- 1:25:22Yeah, I don't know it.
- 1:25:23Oh my gosh.
- 1:25:24It is so good.
- 1:25:27Is it better than A League of Their
- 1:25:28Own?
- 1:25:29No, Carolyn.
- 1:25:32Go pick me out a winner, Timmy.
- 1:25:40Have you seen the natural?
- 1:25:42Okay.
- 1:25:42So now finals for baseball.
- 1:25:45Never thought this would be it.
- 1:25:52A league of their own.
- 1:25:58I wanted Sandlot.
- 1:26:03I wanted Field of Dreams.
- 1:26:08I would have never guessed Jamie.
- 1:26:12I mean,
- 1:26:12I really like a league of their own.
- 1:26:14Don't get me wrong.
- 1:26:14I'm okay with this.
- 1:26:18The natural and the league of their own
- 1:26:19out for votes.
- 1:26:27Five, four, three, two, one.
- 1:26:34end poll the winner and undisputed
- 1:26:38baseball movie the natural we have one
- 1:26:45more bracket and it's ice we can get
- 1:26:47bang this out and then do the other
- 1:26:49half of the bracket next week okay that
- 1:26:51took like six minutes so that'll be about
- 1:26:53perfect timing okay so here we go real
- 1:26:58quick
- 1:26:59I agree, Johnny.
- 1:27:00I think there's some old ass people in
- 1:27:02the chat.
- 1:27:02I think that's what happened.
- 1:27:05The cutting edge versus goon.
- 1:27:10Okay.
- 1:27:16Easy, easy.
- 1:27:21Chat's making it closer than I would
- 1:27:23expect.
- 1:27:32Five, four, three, two, one.
- 1:27:40End poll.
- 1:27:42And Topic gets the win.
- 1:27:49All right,
- 1:27:50next we have Miracle and Blades of Glory.
- 1:27:55Okay.
- 1:27:58Two completely different movies.
- 1:28:00Completely.
- 1:28:01Yeah.
- 1:28:03There's a clear winner here.
- 1:28:04Come on, chat.
- 1:28:09Miracle Blades of Glory.
- 1:28:12Here we go.
- 1:28:21Us old asses actually watched movies,
- 1:28:22not binging Netflix.
- 1:28:28This one was...
- 1:28:30Very lopsided.
- 1:28:31This is a very, very lopsided one.
- 1:28:35Wow.
- 1:28:35Good job, Chad.
- 1:28:38The winner takes the win.
- 1:28:40Redeeming yourself.
- 1:28:42Yeah.
- 1:28:44All right.
- 1:28:45Next one is Mighty Ducks.
- 1:28:48You guys don't come through here.
- 1:28:50I'm going to be real mad.
- 1:28:51Mighty Ducks is the first one.
- 1:28:53The first Mighty Ducks.
- 1:28:55And Alaska.
- 1:28:56Alaska.
- 1:29:00Is D two in here?
- 1:29:02Yeah.
- 1:29:02Show us the rest of this bracket.
- 1:29:04It doesn't matter on this vote.
- 1:29:09This one's tough.
- 1:29:11Which mighty ducks do you like better?
- 1:29:14Well, I like regular mighty ducks.
- 1:29:15I just,
- 1:29:16I think D two D two is the
- 1:29:17best one.
- 1:29:20This is a tough one for me.
- 1:29:23Oh, Chad.
- 1:29:26Okay.
- 1:29:28We're going to end poll.
- 1:29:29The Mighty Ducks blows Mystery Alaska
- 1:29:31away.
- 1:29:31I love Mystery Alaska.
- 1:29:33I know.
- 1:29:33It's really good.
- 1:29:36I probably like it more than Mighty Ducks.
- 1:29:40All right.
- 1:29:40And the final one is Slapshot or Cool
- 1:29:46Runnings.
- 1:29:48Boy.
- 1:29:48Okay.
- 1:29:56I thought D two was the most popular
- 1:29:58one of the mighty ducks, like by far.
- 1:30:01So I'm surprised you picked the first one.
- 1:30:05So maybe it's just my generation.
- 1:30:07Slapshot.
- 1:30:13Oh, wow.
- 1:30:14What the heck?
- 1:30:16Have people not seen Slapshot?
- 1:30:17What's going on?
- 1:30:24Thirty people voting on this one.
- 1:30:26Holy smokes.
- 1:30:27People are trying to get in there.
- 1:30:28Five, four, three, two, one, and pull.
- 1:30:34Cool Runnings gets the win.
- 1:30:39Slapshot was like the first adult movie,
- 1:30:43like our movie, I think I ever saw.
- 1:30:46That means it's old.
- 1:30:48I'm surprised it didn't win with this
- 1:30:50shot.
- 1:30:52Wow, you are so bitter.
- 1:31:00All right.
- 1:31:00So now we are to the semis.
- 1:31:03We have the cutting edge versus miracle.
- 1:31:08Easy.
- 1:31:09Easy.
- 1:31:13There's two clear favorites in these top
- 1:31:15four that are left.
- 1:31:18Cutting edge versus miracle.
- 1:31:24We are live.
- 1:31:25Oh, I am.
- 1:31:26I'm back.
- 1:31:33and a landslide for miracle we don't even
- 1:31:36have to no shut it down all right
- 1:31:40so miracle gets the win now we got
- 1:31:47mighty ducks and cool running yeah this
- 1:31:50one's gonna be here in about ten seconds
- 1:31:52on this one it should but you don't
- 1:31:55know that's true we'll see what the chat
- 1:31:57does i think i think we'll be safe
- 1:31:59on this one
- 1:32:01I still don't like that it's the one
- 1:32:03and not the two.
- 1:32:06Yeah.
- 1:32:08The two is so much better.
- 1:32:11Two awful movies, says Jeff.
- 1:32:17Pretty definitive.
- 1:32:20You think?
- 1:32:21Yeah.
- 1:32:21All right.
- 1:32:24We can probably end it.
- 1:32:27Mighty Ducks makes it to the finals of
- 1:32:30hockey movies.
- 1:32:34So now it is between the Mighty Ducks
- 1:32:42and miracle.
- 1:32:44This one could be tight.
- 1:32:56I don't even know if young bloods got
- 1:32:58like voted on.
- 1:32:59Jeff,
- 1:32:59did you put it in the chat last
- 1:33:00week?
- 1:33:02Youngblood came in,
- 1:33:03but very low on the votes.
- 1:33:05There you go.
- 1:33:06Jeff, you got to tell your friends.
- 1:33:08Vote often.
- 1:33:09Easy pick.
- 1:33:10Easy pick.
- 1:33:14Well, there's... No.
- 1:33:15There's your answer right there.
- 1:33:17That's where it was.
- 1:33:23And Miracle gets the win.
- 1:33:28So...
- 1:33:30Miracle is our favorite hockey movie.
- 1:33:34The Natural is our favorite baseball
- 1:33:35movie.
- 1:33:37Remember the Titans is our favorite
- 1:33:39football movie.
- 1:33:41And Rocky is our favorite combat sports
- 1:33:43movie.
- 1:33:44They will play off against each other on
- 1:33:46the left side of the bracket.
- 1:33:48Next week we will do the right side
- 1:33:51and then we will finish it off.
- 1:33:53What categories are left?
- 1:33:55There's racing.
- 1:33:57There's basketball.
- 1:33:58There's other sports.
- 1:34:00And I think we have enough golf.
- 1:34:03Oh.
- 1:34:06Okay.
- 1:34:07I haven't quite finished that side,
- 1:34:08I'll be honest.
- 1:34:10When the stuff broke today,
- 1:34:12I focused on that,
- 1:34:13not the right side of the bracket.
- 1:34:17I think we got four solid choices here.
- 1:34:20Soccer will probably be in other jobs.
- 1:34:26Go into the chat today and add them
- 1:34:27so Scott can finish the right side of
- 1:34:30the bracket.
- 1:34:31Yeah,
- 1:34:31if you have nominations for basketball,
- 1:34:36racing, space jams, golf, or other,
- 1:34:42then put it in the comments of this
- 1:34:46video when we're done here.
- 1:34:48Or, yeah.
- 1:34:51Or there's a poll out on YouTube.
- 1:34:53You can answer it there as well.
- 1:34:54Okay.
- 1:35:01Thanks.
- 1:35:01This must have taken a lot of time
- 1:35:02to build.
- 1:35:03Took a little bit of time.
- 1:35:04I won't lie.
- 1:35:06But it was fun.
- 1:35:07It was fun.
- 1:35:08It was worth it.
- 1:35:10Terry, have you seen Happy Gilmore?
- 1:35:13I nominate Warrior again and Major League.
- 1:35:17You cannot get people readmitted into the
- 1:35:20poll.
- 1:35:23You can put Hoosiers on basketball.
- 1:35:25You can close the poll.
- 1:35:27Loving Basketball has been nominated a few
- 1:35:28times.
- 1:35:29That's way.
- 1:35:32Tin Cup are most likely going to be
- 1:35:35in the poll.
- 1:35:37Hoosiers will be in the poll.
- 1:35:41Caddyshack has been nominated.
- 1:35:45That is our first Bagger Vance.
- 1:35:48Now that they say that,
- 1:35:48you need to add that.
- 1:35:50I'm voting on that.
- 1:35:56Air Bud didn't make the cut.
- 1:35:59But which Air Bud?
- 1:36:00Air Bud, the football movie, Air Bud,
- 1:36:02the basketball movie.
- 1:36:03He's been in a few.
- 1:36:07White Men Can't Jump is probably in the
- 1:36:09list.
- 1:36:12I'm pretty sure it is.
- 1:36:18Okay, Caddyshack, I'm old.
- 1:36:19Yeah.
- 1:36:24Juana Man has been nominated a few times.
- 1:36:30Yeah.
- 1:36:31Basketball is like baseball.
- 1:36:33There's so many nominations for that.
- 1:36:37Like there was stuff that I love that
- 1:36:39I couldn't even, I couldn't get into the,
- 1:36:42the poll and it really broke my heart.
- 1:36:46Cinderella didn't make it.
- 1:36:48Yeah, that's true.
- 1:36:49Carolina, we watched white men can't jump.
- 1:36:52I have not.
- 1:36:53You got to do that before next week.
- 1:36:56Because it's the last week of school
- 1:36:58before break.
- 1:36:59American Anthem is a great movie.
- 1:37:02No, it's not a great movie.
- 1:37:03But I did watch it when I was
- 1:37:04a kid.
- 1:37:06I thought Janet Jones was super cute back
- 1:37:09then.
- 1:37:10And then she married Wayne Gretzky.
- 1:37:13Broke my heart.
- 1:37:16Roadhouse is not a sport.
- 1:37:22uh hoop dreams has been nominated bull
- 1:37:27durham did not get enough votes terry so
- 1:37:36uh there is a bowling movie called kingpin
- 1:37:38yeah that's a good movie but that this
- 1:37:42would be the first nomination for kingpin
- 1:37:49Yes,
- 1:37:49I did think Janet Jones was the cat's
- 1:37:51pajamas, the bee's knees,
- 1:37:53and all that jazzy stuff.
- 1:37:58Blue Chips has been nominated,
- 1:38:00but not very much.
- 1:38:03Whip It,
- 1:38:04I think you're the first person to
- 1:38:05nominate that.
- 1:38:07Roller Derby has not made the cut very
- 1:38:09much.
- 1:38:16Is The Big Lebowski a bowling movie?
- 1:38:17I would not call it a bowling movie.
- 1:38:20Did we get Bring It On in Other?
- 1:38:24The Other,
- 1:38:24the category is the one I don't have
- 1:38:26all tabulated yet.
- 1:38:28But there has been a few Bring It
- 1:38:29Ons.
- 1:38:31And Chariots of Fire has been nominated a
- 1:38:32handful of times.
- 1:38:37So.
- 1:38:37Cool.
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