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25W HALFTIME: Reaction to College Football Rankings + NFL Trade Deadline + We talk to Head Coach Nathan Brown About If He Ever Uses Plays from Madden Football · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: Podcasted twenty five Whistocking fun Row and they whist so yet,
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  Speaker 1: sports to get in on the action. We'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: the new rankings, college football, maybe selling the Commanders, the
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  Speaker 1: NFL trade deadline, and Adam brought us a coach Adam
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  Speaker 1: and it's a really good interview. It was like super compelling.
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  Speaker 1: I like asking coaches about Madden, going like, I'm an idiot,
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  Speaker 1: I play Madden. I can probably an offensive coordinator. It's
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  Speaker 1: a great topic and it's fun to see how they respond.
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  Speaker 1: Will they humor me or they just think I'm a
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  Speaker 1: complete moron? And he humored me, you know what I like.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys hang out for that coming up a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, but it actually puts you back to even now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm had to be back even part which by the way,
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  Speaker 1: we're put trying to get these coaches on and who
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  Speaker 1: had Harson? Who got fired? I had Harson? Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: should have waited. I want to get him now, Well
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  Speaker 1: it's easier, harder to get an he's fired, I still
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  Speaker 1: have him. Yeah, I was just trying to get some
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  Speaker 1: extra points by getting the organ guy. But I still
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  Speaker 1: have Arson. So let me reach out, let me reach
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  Speaker 1: back out. But see, I don't know. I have the
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  Speaker 1: university contacts, so they're well, they're they're not They're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna help me with that. So I gotta find someone.
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  Speaker 1: Can I just d M him? Maybe I just dmy
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  Speaker 1: I would I'm doing that today, Yeah, I would, And
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  Speaker 1: I would give it a few days a week and
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  Speaker 1: if nothing then move on. But it might be easier
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  Speaker 1: to get him now, it also could be harder, but
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  Speaker 1: you don't have any ways, so you're not lost. I
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  Speaker 1: wonder what coaches do when they get fired, Like like
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  Speaker 1: when I the one time I got fired from a
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  Speaker 1: job has laid off. I went to the beach like
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  Speaker 1: for two days, and it was great. I just had
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  Speaker 1: to think of things. What am I gonna do with
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  Speaker 1: the rest of my life kind of thing? But well,
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  Speaker 1: what did coaches do? Do they like take some time
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  Speaker 1: off or start looking for work. Well, at first they
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  Speaker 1: do take time off because they're paid. I think anyone
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  Speaker 1: if they can, should take time off whenever something like
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  Speaker 1: that happens. But I think there's a little bit of embarrassment.
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  Speaker 1: I would be embarrassed. But with coaching, it's such a
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  Speaker 1: quick turnarounds, like you know you're not you're not a
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  Speaker 1: winning season, you can be cut in six games. It's
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  Speaker 1: I think it still would be embarrassing for sure. I
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  Speaker 1: think if you're fired and he again, he didn't get
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  Speaker 1: two seasons and there was turmoil immediately and in the
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  Speaker 1: off season, it just I don't know who and what
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  Speaker 1: was unhealthy about that situation because you hear both sides
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  Speaker 1: and two different sides, they two different things. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I'll check in there that I don't know, um,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's probably embarrassing that you got this job,
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  Speaker 1: you moved here, take this job to turn the program around.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't do it, and so you're probably embarrassed, should
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  Speaker 1: probably I mean not happy with yourself because you look
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  Speaker 1: back and there are some decisions that you would have
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  Speaker 1: made differently, and a lot of times you get to
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  Speaker 1: see those decisions and do them definitely while you're doing it,
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  Speaker 1: because you're there long enough to make those changes. And
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  Speaker 1: the ones who can't make changes to get fired anyway.
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  Speaker 1: But you have a lot of money. And did you
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  Speaker 1: buy a house? Do you need to sell it right away?
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  Speaker 1: Do you get out of dodged? You stay in town
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  Speaker 1: for a little bit? Well, great question. For example, who
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  Speaker 1: we had on earlier in the show and he coached
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  Speaker 1: at Florida, Dan Mullin. He's still in Gainesville and he
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  Speaker 1: coached at Florida. He says his house he loves. They
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  Speaker 1: got fired. He's like, I'm just gonna stay here if
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  Speaker 1: you like. I think if you like it, you stay.
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  Speaker 1: And he had lived there before, so I think he
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  Speaker 1: likes Gainville. It just stays there. And then are you embarrassed?
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  Speaker 1: Like walk around in town? Fired coach would go to
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  Speaker 1: the grocery store like and how it switches, you know,
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  Speaker 1: from like you're the grocer store when you're winning, you're
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  Speaker 1: fired on the coach. Well, it's very much like they
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  Speaker 1: say in in Batman, right, like if you're a hero
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: long enough, eventually you'll be a villain. That's paraphrase a
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  Speaker 1: bit like, yeah, you want to be a hero, but
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  Speaker 1: if you're a hero for long enough, eventually that'll turn
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  Speaker 1: on you and you'll be the villain. So if you
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  Speaker 1: live long enough, and that's like coaches for the most part,
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  Speaker 1: all coaches get fired for the most part. Yeah, unless
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  Speaker 1: you get to be Bobby Bowden. But even he was
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  Speaker 1: kind of pushed out at the end, right, he was,
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  Speaker 1: but not he was ceremoniously. It was a big deal. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: bountons out, he's our guy. We love them. That didn't
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  Speaker 1: happen with Parson Saban's not getting fired, right, It's very
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  Speaker 1: rare that someone doesn't get fired. So eventually, if you
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  Speaker 1: live long enough, you die, They kill you eventually. But
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  Speaker 1: I would be I would be personally embarrassed. But he
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  Speaker 1: has a bunch of money. He doesn't have to worry
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  Speaker 1: about paying the bills and all that. So um, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was a good conversation with the coach. Let's stay
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  Speaker 1: college for a second. On the halftime show here, they
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  Speaker 1: put out the first rankings as far as and they
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  Speaker 1: put out the top six and then they put out
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  Speaker 1: all the rest, which kind of comes out as the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the splat. But the top six is really
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  Speaker 1: trying to get into the top four, and the top
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  Speaker 1: four is the playoff, which is pretty cool. But I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait from to go to twelve twelve. It makes
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  Speaker 1: everything more exciting. The NFL doesn't get lamer because more
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  Speaker 1: teams get in. It's more exciting because then the guy
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  Speaker 1: that just snuck in might have a chance to win
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  Speaker 1: the old thing, and everyone's like, well, then the games
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  Speaker 1: won't matter as much anymore. Okay, look at the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: The NFL doesn't suck Week sixteen. It's actually awesome. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and some teams get in that probably wouldn't had they
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  Speaker 1: not even expand. They expanded it last year. I'm up
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  Speaker 1: forma for basebox man, I'm up for all the expansion.
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  Speaker 1: I love it, can't get enough of it, can't wait
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  Speaker 1: for those twelve Let's do sixty four one. Yeah, probably
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  Speaker 1: you can't play that many games that fast, but basketball
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  Speaker 1: you can get a couple in a weekend. The rankings
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  Speaker 1: are and we'll go top six here Tennessee at one,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State to Georgia three, Clemson four, Michigan five, Alabama six.
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  Speaker 1: Um Tennessee at one. Not a surprise, not not a shot.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't shocked, I guess I was slightly surprised, only because
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  Speaker 1: the pedigree of Ohio State in Georgia I thought itself
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  Speaker 1: would put them on top. And I'm glad it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I think Tennessee probably deserves to be number one, but
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  Speaker 1: I was a little surprised to see them there with
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State in Georgia so close even Clemson. But Clemson
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  Speaker 1: has got a little sour on it. It's let you know,
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  Speaker 1: they just do they're benching their quarterback that It's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: You got a top four team and you have in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of a quarterback controversy. They're barely beating teams too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's likely they're running wild if it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: for the curse. So when you look at that top six, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Georgia, Clemson, Michigan, Alabama, who do you put
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  Speaker 1: your money on to not even being the conversation in
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks kick off? Is it because they're playing
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State? And I think they should. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: could argue, for you the one maybe be ahead of Clemson,
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  Speaker 1: but Michigan hasn't really played anybody out of outside of conference.
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  Speaker 1: But I think Michigan once they play a house state,
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  Speaker 1: especially if they get beat down in how State, they're gone.
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  Speaker 1: And even if they lose, I mean, they have to
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  Speaker 1: beat Ohuse State just to State in the conversation, if
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State loses to Michigan, are they out of it?
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  Speaker 1: I think so, depending on what the other teams do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because their schedule hasn't been anything great either. They're not
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  Speaker 1: beating anybody, you know, and they almost lost a Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, if they lose one, either of those teams
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  Speaker 1: lose one game, it's gonna be tough because, Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: you have Tennessee and Georgia. They want of them is
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose, but they are on the SEC and whomever
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  Speaker 1: lose is probably isn't gonna play the SEC championship game.
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  Speaker 1: They're just gonna have one loss and they're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: able to sit back and not even risk having a
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  Speaker 1: second loss. Yeah, they're the SEC is sitting pretty right now.
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  Speaker 1: Especially if Ohio State in Michigan lose, they could have
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  Speaker 1: three teams in there. Yeah, but I'll have to say
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  Speaker 1: in Michigan both aren't gonna lose, at least I don't
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  Speaker 1: say they could. What do I know they both they
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  Speaker 1: could Um Adam, who's not going to be there? Of
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  Speaker 1: those six, I gotta say, I gotta say Michigan to
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  Speaker 1: Michigan just does not have a passing game and they're
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  Speaker 1: running the ball well, but they still haven't run it
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  Speaker 1: well against the defense that scares anybody. So they haven't
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  Speaker 1: done anything that shows me they can compete against Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, UH, Georgia or Alabama for that matter. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why you. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why you could see them making the playoff? Eddie,
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: who wins it all? Oh? Who wins it all? I'm
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: gonna say Alabama sneaks back in and then wins it all.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're clearly the better team if
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  Speaker 1: they just get a shot their trouble. Yes, I agree,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna get a shot because they're gonna play in
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  Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game. And everyone loves to just dismiss
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  Speaker 1: them because they lost one game. Like, guys, they are
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  Speaker 1: so good. Yes, they were close games, but they had
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  Speaker 1: the tough I think they've had the toughest schedule out
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  Speaker 1: of everyone. They also lost to the number one team
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  Speaker 1: right there. One losses to the number one team. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I think if I'm pulling one of the teams out,
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  Speaker 1: it's Clemson. If you're looking at the games and who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose and win okay, but I mean Clemson just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't to me eyeball tests look as good as the
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  Speaker 1: other teams or who they've played or how they beat them. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Clemson to me is kind of the biggest fraud there.
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  Speaker 1: I think TCUs should be above Clemson, honestly. I mean
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  Speaker 1: there's an argument of tc to be up there. Oh
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  Speaker 1: how I say, Michigan's gonna play itself out. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: too angry about those two because that one's gonna play
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  Speaker 1: itself out. The SEC situation is is interesting because again
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  Speaker 1: you have Tennessee and Georgia playing. I don't think losing
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  Speaker 1: that game by nine points or less affects much. I
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  Speaker 1: think that team who loses you almost got a free pass.
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  Speaker 1: As long as you win your other conference games to
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  Speaker 1: get into the to get in where the other teams
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  Speaker 1: gotta go play in the c Championship. You want to
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  Speaker 1: win it, obviously, Um, but it's interesting. I think TCU
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  Speaker 1: or again sitting at eight, I wouldn't have been surprised
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  Speaker 1: if they were to put organ at of five or
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  Speaker 1: six right now. I don't think they should. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm starting to be I'm getting being got to being
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  Speaker 1: tricked I'm starting to fall for Oregan again. I'm starting
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  Speaker 1: to fall back in love. I can't, I don't want to.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't. Are you believing in bo? Everything that I've
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  Speaker 1: ever seen from the years at Auburn, from the I
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  Speaker 1: they're they're the best team. I think they're better than USC.
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  Speaker 1: I think if there's going to in there and we'll
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  Speaker 1: find out. But I think Oregon and TCU are probably
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  Speaker 1: a spot or two too low. I think they put
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: Michigan and Ohio State in there knowing that one of
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  Speaker 1: them will fall and we'll see what happens. You know, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama,
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  Speaker 1: don't lose again, Ohio State, TCU or Oregon or USC.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's a pretty solid six. But Clemson doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really play. Clemson doesn't play much. No, they really don't.
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  Speaker 1: It's South Carolina in a conference championship game and not
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: a sucks the Louisville. They'll play anybody, right, they play names,
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: but substance um. When I look down the list and
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: I see L s U attend, that was a big
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  Speaker 1: choker to me, you know, good for them, good for them.
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  Speaker 1: I look at it as two ways. One it's I
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  Speaker 1: mean L s U ten will miss eleven you're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm obviously it, see guy, because Arkansas is there,
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: we have to play number ten a number eleven coming
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: up now Arkansas, and so we're gonna beat both those schools.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it's over, we've already won, so mark it down.
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  Speaker 1: But L s U picked last basically in the West
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  Speaker 1: and sitting at number ten right now. You talk about
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: a from that Florida State game L s U because
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: they didn't they lose that by the few, yes, and
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: everybody was like terrible coaching. Hey look they're nuts. Stay yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's you're talking about their ten now and
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: they blew out the team right behind them. And but
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: also big game this weekend LS you in Alabama? That
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  Speaker 1: is this weekend, right, Yeah, there's two huge games this
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  Speaker 1: weekend in the SEC. There's Georgia and Tennessee in Arkansas.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: Liberty kidding but less you. Yeah that is a good guy.
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  Speaker 1: I like that game. Liberties actually top twenty five and
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: like the A p Yeah yeah, so listen n c
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  Speaker 1: l A rankings came out. I think there's a lot
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: of Texas into twenty four. Yeah, Texas back five and three.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Really it's Texas Texas. Right, Yeah, they get the benefits
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: pedigree programs. If it's close, even if they're slightly under,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to get the nod. Gross, That's okay. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's goal is to be a pet your program. Everybody's hater.
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  Speaker 1: I'm hater, but the goal is to be that, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I say, if there's a program or a fan base
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: I hate, I want to be hated because that means
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: people are annoyed by me winning. So it's just I'm jealous.
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  Speaker 1: I'm jealous of a team like Texas with three losses
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  Speaker 1: can get in at twenty four. But good for them.
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: Can we another shocker here? Uh? Speaking of Arkansas, Brett Billum,
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: I got the Illinois fighting at Lina in the top.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: Who did they just beat last week? You know they
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: had a big win. A message BLM and was like, hey,
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: that's awesome. I said you should come on the show,
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: and he had me back It was like, hey, thanks man.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: He wrote, whoo pick Sue is something like a line
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: I family. But then he didn't say it come on
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  Speaker 1: the show. You never answered the question. No he didn't,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: and I felt weird about following up again. I like
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: that asked him that yeah, yeah, yeah, we we but
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Alabama to play I'll as you and all Miss. So
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Alabama's got uh ten and eleven as of right now,
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: they win those two games, I don't know how you
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: keep him out if they win the stch even as
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: a two loss, if starts to get close and you're
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: playing with a bunch of one losses in your Alabama
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  Speaker 1: and you beat l s U, you'd be all Miss,
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  Speaker 1: you'd beat other teams. That's tough. It's just tough both
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: on the road packed tas two is out the top ten?
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  Speaker 1: Which do they have two and stut the top ten
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: because they don't play a bunch of great schools? Or
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: are they good? That's question. I think USC is good
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: us he's a bigger pose of than Oregon. Their offense
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: is good. Their offense is good, and you're looking at
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: the first year Lincoln, right, but we're talking about this season. No,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But I think that's
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: what's keeping them low because I think if it was
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  Speaker 1: any other year that was their one loss. Yeah there
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: one loss, I mean there is I guess there is
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  Speaker 1: like value to the argument that they don't play when
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: they play each other, which is not really good. That's
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: what Clemson does, you know, right, So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I just when I when I see USC,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: I like them. I think it's everyone didn't they I don't.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't think they're gonna be good this year, but
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: they ended up being pretty good. They be pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Cayleb Williams Yeah, Jordan Aison, Yeah, come up from pit.
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  Speaker 1: It their defense, sucker. What am I missing something? Yes? Alright,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: and it's half the battle, g I Joe. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: fun though, right, Like, it's fun. It's I like it
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  Speaker 1: when they were like, because this is these are the
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  Speaker 1: rankings that matter. These are the ones that are actually
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: gonna affect things. I think Oklahoma State at eighteens pretty cool. Um,
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: I think Kansas State the thirteen is pretty cool. I
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: like the TCU is right there in the mix. And
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: you know, if TCU wins the conference, you can't you
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: can't keep them out. If they don't lose the game,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: you can't keep them out. So that would be fun.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: And and those all those big twelve schools that are
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: good play such different types of styles. Kansas State and
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: tc are just gonna run. We're gonna run. They gonna run,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: they're run the round there and Oklahoma State and Baylor
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: and they just that's old school Big twelve. They just
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: throw throw throw, So it's kind of fun to see
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: those those styles mix. I thought it was really interesting
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: watching Oklahoma State get destroyed this weekend, but the same
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: quick sah, I couldn't believe that quick. I mean it
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: was first boom score, boom score, boom score. Like I am,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch this anymore. I'll tell embarrassed for them.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: That wasn't my team. Um, who do we have? My
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: who do we all pick as our champions? If you
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: don't want to pulling that up? I know we probably
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: all know. But now that the official rankings are out,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: go ahead. Adam has Ohio State, Eddie has Alabama, Kevin
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: has Alabama. I have Georgia and you have Michigan. Oh
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I know, and and how much do I owe as
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: at this point seven bucks? You've changed twice, I know.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing I can does it may have Georgia,
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: I do not crap. I will never take Clemson. Go
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: you and I will never tell why would you do that?
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Can I offer I go to a new team? But
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: then I would love for him to go to New
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: can but then Eddie still has the team, but you
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: can leave. Yeah, no, I'm not even No matter what
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you can take my team, but
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I forgot Eddie's Obama. I am going all in on
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: the balls Tennessee game. Embrace being a poser. That's stuff
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: supposed that doesn't embrace it. They're awful. Oh my god,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: someone who says I'm new and I just like them? Now,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: what do you want me to do? I like that.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I can respect that. I bet he gets a tattoo
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. Okay, So now, Kevin
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: O's about three dollars. What's the total money in this pot?
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: It can't be that much. I was seven, Kevin O's three,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: that's ten, like fourteen fifteen bucks something that basically on
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: their first I guess I'm just gonna say at Michigan,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: although I hate, I'm never taking Tennessee its so Kevin has,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I'm never taking a Clemsons, taking Georgia's taken, Alabama's taken.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, do I just take TC you? But I
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: don't want to switch right now. Stay where you're at.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: It's gonna charge. I don't why weren't even there in
• 16:46
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• 16:48
  Speaker 1: also gonna anything that would Happen's gonna play Illinois, Illinois.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Do I take Texas? Yeah? Yeah? Do that add more
• 16:59
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• 18:02
  Speaker 1: talk the trade deadline. I've never seen so many trades
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: in my life for the trade deadline. Usually this is
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: the worst day because you're like, where's Joe Montana going nowhere?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Of course not. I think there were nine or ten trades,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: maybe more than twelve players and ten deals. All I
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: know is that kept saying on Twitter at another trade,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: another trade, another trade, and I was like, wow, I've
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: never seen so much action. I feel like the NBA
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: do you know if this is the most action? It is?
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: It is? It is why. I don't know what's the
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: reason yesterday, Yeah, I don't know what their young coaches,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: different styles. Yeah, GM is trying to go all in.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Owners going all in because we have all these teams
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: going like the Dolphins, they're all in and I like it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: They're all in with a rookie coach, Yeah, which is
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. That guy looks like it doesn't know what
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: he's doing, but I like it. It gives us hope.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like one day I can be a coach
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: if he can do it, you know what I mean. Look,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, by the way, he looks like a nerd,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: but I like, I'm o my guy. Here's a what
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: my coaches look like nerds or meat heads and no
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: in between. So, Dan Campbell, I need you to be
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: super smart, analytic guy who's learned all and you study
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: and you watch film, drawing and you do the beautiful
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: mind charts and you do or all right, man, Yeah,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go. We're gonna gonna hit hard, We're gonna
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: do That's all my coaches. I don't want anybody in
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the middle. You want to know how to head coach.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: That's the kind of there's two teams, really smart ones
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: are really strong ones. What about the pretty boy coaches?
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: You know, I like a Lane Kiffin. Yeah, well I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: like Kiffin nice put on a little weight, you know, lazy.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I like him a little better. He put it on
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and then he took took a lot of it off. Yeah,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: he's in California. Who I'm thinking of Ley, Um, so
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: let's talk about him. Yea, I jump anybody. I yeah,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it's great, like Kingsbury, who is the best like a
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: head coach and all of NFL or college, I'll jump in.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: I like the San Francisco guy. I mean he is
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: a good looking dude. What's his name? Shanahan? Really? Yeah,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I like, I like go to him so quickly. I've
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I've already thought I've observed him before and like it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: a good looking dude. Sean McVeigh also, no, I don't
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: like he's like too like to like and his beards
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: too trimmed. Yeah, he's like the squatty muscular squat you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: he's like where he couldn't get tall, he got wide strong.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I agree, and not really my type of dude. So
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you go McVeigh, you go Shanahan. I'm gonna go to Kingsbury.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: He's even used that to his advantage. He said, when
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: he's in college or recruiting, you kind of look like Kingsbury.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: You know, he does a little bit. I don't think
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: he's got the vibe. No, he he's got the cliff,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: But I'm more of a briand Abel kind of guy
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: who's giants. Really. No, No, you don't. There's no way
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you want to guy like that. You don't. You don't.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: He's a real deal. No, you're gonna get mad at
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: him because he's got cookies everywhere. And Brian, no, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: can't cookies in the house. Keep your cookies in the car.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't stand the glove box. Um. Probably I like Lane.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Lane is a good looking dude like Lane. Trade deadline
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Bradley up to in Miami. Big deal, really big deal. Yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the Broncos get a first for next year, a fourth
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: four and Chase Edmonds and Chubb is going to go
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and they need that. He's gonna terrorize quarterbacks over there.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: They needed that. They have that. That's and they tried
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the first round pick, so pretty cool and it wasn't
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: one of the It was one of the picks that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in the trade land steal. Yeah, they've used them all
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: so far to get Bradley Chubb. And the other one
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: was who Tyreek Oh that's right. Yeah, part of that
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: deal making. Yeah, Miami making moves. You gotta love know
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: how you remember that? How do you remember? Just like
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: draft pick numbers and assign them to like deals from
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: four months. I'm the nerdy coach. Someone reminds you, right,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: someone's office there to remind you. What are you talking about?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: What you trade like whatever? Whenever, whoever remembers like, hey,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: don't forget you trade it off your first, Hey, you
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: trade off your third. You'll never forget those. I think
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: because when you're dealing, I think. I don't think you.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think you let that affect what you think
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: is going to help now, because you might have made
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a mistake. But if you change now, you can cut
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: your losses and move in the direction. You just don't.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Although I'm mad and I tried all my picks for
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: like to picks. We were like math wizard on that stuff.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I'm MADNB A two K. I'm trading picks. I'm moving,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: You're willing and dealing. How Roseman over here, I'm getting
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of cat I get a lot of cat
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: penalty trouble your owner. That gets me sometimes. Other than that,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty good, pretty good hockets. It goes to Minnesota,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and so he's a good time and listen, he's not
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: had nothing over there. Yes, and they just lost, um,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: they're tied end and so he's out for a bit.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: But Hawkins is good and so the lines are gonnaet.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: You can always tell good there about what they get back.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: And so the Lions get a second next year and
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the third. That's a pretty solid trade for the tight end. Um.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley is one of the Jaguars, which is weird
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: because he can't even play right now. And you got
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: trouble gambling, which lisn't he knew the rules and he
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: broke them. It's just that from what I know about that,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: it wasn't that severe. What was he gambling on? Was
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: any gamble on an app? Yeah? And the ironic thing
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: of all this, the game that he gambled on last
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: year was the Falcons versus Jacklars, And now that is irony,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: but I mean, you can't be better on absolutely absolutely,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't like he was running a business selling
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: information and using it to bet milk. He absolutely suspended done. Yeah, absolutely,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it, But he's not Pete Rose was
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: he was even playing. Was he throwing? He wasn't even playing. No,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Pete Rose was betting on every he says, betting on
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: every team but the Reds. Whatever, dude, I love it,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: but really is good. We're as far as I remember him.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: The Falcons get a fifth round and a fourth and
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: conditional fourth depending on what really does. But the earliest
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Ridley can apply for reinstatement is February of next year,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: but that'd be after the Super Bowl, so he could
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: probably get back in next year next season. Probably. Um
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Claypold to the Bears, which I tell you, and you
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: can tell me if you're surprised Kevin by this or not.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: But whenever they trade Smith to the Ravens, I'm like, well,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the Bears are selling everybody at this point. So and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: they trade for a second and five and so I'm like, well,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the Bears are just selling and they're building for the future.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: But then they trade and get Claypool. I'm like, wait,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: what are they doing? Are they just built an offense
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and let the defense go to crop? What do you
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: think is happening here? To me? That says that they're
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to sign Claypool. I get him for
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: a year and a half. Well, they knew wasn't gonna
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: sign and there, Yeah, they knew who wasn't gonna sign.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So I think they might have even talked to Claypool
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: as people before, Hey, well they gonna like it here.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: They could build off of him, then sign him to
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: an extension next year, and then he can build with
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: justin Fields. And then Fields showed him signed the last
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So I think they're building four fields
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: because I don't think the draft has a lot of
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: good receivers next year, and they know what Claypool, they
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: can get him and build him with the quarterback. Yeah,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I think Smith. They were probably just trying to get
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: as much as they could because I knew he wasn't staying.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: And there's really nothing for them to play for this
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: year except hopefully some some good vibes for next year.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: UM Hines goes to Buffalo. Hines was played a lot
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: because Taylor got hurt and um Indy and the good
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: thing about nine Hines is that he catches the ball.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: That's what Buffalo once. If you could have him on
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: your fantasy team, now everybody's already got him because John
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Taylor was hurt so people had him as a handcuff,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: but if he was sitting there, may he'd be an
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: excellent addition. Uh. And then Jeff Wilson, who came in
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and played well for San Francisco until they got McCaffrey.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Then he takes a back seat, but they traded him
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. Now here's the benefit there is that
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Wilson knows the Shanahan system and McDaniel. He's a Shanahan
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: guy in Miami, so he's gonna go and understand kind
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of that zone run type offense. I think he'll he'll
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: do pretty well over there. And in Miami. Miami's in,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: they're in, so twelve players I've just seen this traded.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Tindal's were made. The Packers didn't get crap. I don't know.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: They were trying to get Claypable. The didn't get crap.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That sucks if you're Aaron Rodgers. That sucks for Aaron Rodgers.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And then the Cowboys were close to ad and Cook's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: in Houston. He wanted to get traded. He was liking
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: all kinds of posts by everybody going, hey, you try
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to try him. He wanted out. He's not out, um,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: but that's it. That's it as far as the trade deadline.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: And then finally the story we'll talk about here is
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: are the Commanders going to be for sale forever? Dan
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Snyder said no, he's not selling. He's not selling. Drama
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: comes into not selling the latest drama always like I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: got dirt on all the other owners not selling well.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: According to Twitter and someone familiar with the process, the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Snyder family has heard from groups and they have they
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: have met with. It looks like a bank. I don't
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: know which bank it was, Bank of America. I just think,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: like the people down the street, they're gonna called the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: teller and be like how much a team worker to
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: actually evaluate and see how much the teams worth. So
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: it looks like they're gonna sell, which will be good.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I was reading a story at how like the lines
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: have been owned by the Ford family forever and the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Lions always suck. I think it's a Ford family. You
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: may look that up because I'm just going from memory here.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: It is Um and Snyder in Washington and in Cincinnati
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: for a long time. These owners like to keep them
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: in play because they suck, and they like to have
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: teams that are just bad. They can beat up but
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: they know they can beat certain teams. They just run
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: a bad organization. So that's why some of the owners
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: didn't want Dan Snyder out. Listen, Earth say he's all
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: about getting Snyder out. He's out with the cowboy hat.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Say Snyder sucks, we need him out of the league.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Come to my museum. I got a guitars time by
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: John Lennon Rocking, and I saw their plane flight over
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: my neighborhood again. I saw the Colts. Stop. Oh, I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: really did. I've been on the Cardinals because you had
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a plane flew over your house. It turns out that
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I'm on the flight route of every you told me
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Jesus sent that flight over your head. And I bet
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals because you said that flight would not have
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: been there unless it was a sign. But I'm not
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: telling you to bet on the Colts. I'm just saying
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that I saw their plane yesterday. I'm also going to
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: say that Ellinger can be pretty good. I think he's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good this year. I don't know he
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: goes against the Patriots this week. I think I think
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the Cults win that game. I do. Sorry, sorry to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: tell you letting you know right now. Okay, So, Adam,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: do you want to set this this interview up? Yeah.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: So I am a proud graduate of the University Sinceral,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Arkansas and Conway, Arkansas and UH, and those are my people,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that's my place. And UM I reached out a few
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago about getting Hey, what do you
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: think we could coach Nathan Brown on the podcast I'm
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: doing this podcast with Bobby UM. They're like, yeah, but
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: we could do that, And then he carved out some
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: time for us this week and really really talented young coach. UM.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: A couple of things you might know about U s
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: A UM Charlie Strong, UH coach Charlie Strong u U
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: c a aloone played football there. Also Mike Norville coaches
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: at Florida State UM. And now we got coach Nathan
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Brown is one of the youngest head coaches in America.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: He's twelve. He's twelve. Actually, yeah, pretty cool? Got it?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: He got it by playing Madden. He won the Madden
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Tournament and then they comoted him right up. Well, I
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: would like to coach the game from the set, from
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the PlayStation, like they're playing with real people, and I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: call the players. I have all everything in front of it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: But I'm playing it like it's Madden, and I'm I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: call the play. They okay, well he pushed X, all right, guys,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: go run that play. They have a headset on. All right,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: looks like yeah, try okay, triangle. Okay, triangle guys, and
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: they run the triangle play. We see how we do.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Then we come back again. They're like, all right, up
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: third and twelve. Idiot, okay, okay, shotgun. What but have
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you ever put the controller on your knee and like, oh,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I gotta grab my phone real quick and accidentally hit
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: time out with your elbow. I've lost games that Like
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: what happens when that happens? Like what? Look, they're just
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: like the broncos a crowd. I think they called a
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: lot of time outs by him just going oop. Job.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: He just has like clapping his hands, but it looks
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: like the time out sign. He just claps awkwardly. Okay, Um,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: did you say you set it up? Yeah? Set it up?
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: There it is here. We go, Um, good job and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: thank you, and we'll on Friday Show. Not that we're
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: overly Arkansas. I mean I am, obviously, but we have
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: the SEC's leading rusher who happens to play for Arkansas
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Rocket Sanders on on Friday Shows. It's good. We did it.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: It's fun because I was like, hey, do you ever
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: get a headache? I just love talking to a college
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: football player like he's living his best life right now.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I love it, Like, where are you? You can treat it? Man,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: it's you. Hear people yelling in the background. He's like, man,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you getting a time on one? Hey? Can we find
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the man? All right? Here you go, Thank you guys.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Here's the interview. Hey, coach, are you doing great? How
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: about you doing pretty good? I didn't realize I can
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: see me on camera now. I look like I'm in
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: a snuggy good. Yeah, I'm not an argument that Thanks.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I felt pretty good. I look like I'm in a
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: snuggy I'm talking like one of the coolest youngest coaches
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: in America. Uh, coach Brown, how's your day going today?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So far, so good? I see it's been been a
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: typical Wednesday, you know, come in early and you know,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: kind of a middle week prep for a for a
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: football game. Blowing me through what a week of prepace? Like?
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Because the game Saturday, let's say game happens, you win?
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: What do you do on Sunday and then how does
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: that go all the way up until the game the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: next the next Saturday. Yeah, usually Sunday mornings. Um, I
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: give our staff off. We try to. Obviously I attend
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: a local church chair in Kay, Arkansas and help. A
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: lot of my staff does too. And we usually get
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: in and staff meet about one clock in the afternoon
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: and watch watch film and and clean up the game
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: from the night before. We bring actually bring our players
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: in on Sunday evenings so well to what treatment they'll
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you know, they'll get their bumps and bruises fixed and
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: have a team meeting at six pm. And we're soon
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: as that team meetings over, We're we're meeting and practicing
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: on Sunday evening. So um, usually we get out of
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: here by about nine. Um, you know on on Sunday nights.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And uh, my players have Monday's off. That's that's the
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: mandatory day off that they get up every week. So
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: they've got no football related related to things on Monday. Nothing.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: But is it one of those things that work's like
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: wink wink, you have the day off. So oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: you want you want them, you want them, you want
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: them to have self motivation, right, and and obviously that's
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that's highly encouraged by a coaching staff. Yeah, but that
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: that's that's a big day for us as a coach
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: staff to Mondays is we're we're putting a lot of
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: time and prep and we we don't have to worry
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: about practice or anything getting it prepared. So we spent
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of time on our next opponent on Mondays
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and Tuesdays and Wednesdays are very similar. Um, our guys
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: are gonna work out in in the morning and then uh,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and then we'll have you know, good prep days as
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: far as practice goes on Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons and
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: really Thursdays, Uh, Thursdays are are kind of a polished day.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: You know, get out there and make sure we we've
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: got everything you know, tied up and you know, got
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: any loose sends fixed and and Friday's either a walk
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: through day or travel day, and you you repeat it
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: again starting the next Saturday and Sunday. Do you guys
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: still hit practice not like we used to? You know,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: um back probably probably what a lot of people are
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: used to. Um. You know, you you put the pads
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: on still. But Tuesdays and Wednesdays would be what you'd
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: call your most physical practice days. Um. But but man,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: we we don't hit the ground hardly at all. You know,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: we tap off on the ball carriers, we you know,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: we don't even thud up really, we just you know,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's you know, there's such a emphasis on you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: injury prevention and obviously, uh, the concussion protocols and all
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: those things that that we're monitoring. You just don't want
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to put yourself in a position to put a player
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: at risk and and not have them for the weekend.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: So um, you know, we we we try to get
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit of physical um attention as far as
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: practice go is. But um, but not much, not much
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: hit and goes on like it used to ten years
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: from ago. What's that fine line? Because you're not doing
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: it in the middle of the week, But what about
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: when you get together in spring or whatever before the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: season starts. And I'm sure that line has had to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: move just in your coaching career. But how hard and
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: how quickly and how much you let him hit it
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: has and and really you know, I've been a coach
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: for about twelve years now, um, and and it's changed
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: even in that short amount of time. Um, you know,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: we're we're we're still going to We're still going to
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: have to uh tackle scrimmages in the spring. We'll have
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: at least one before our first game in the fall. Um,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: so we'll we'll we'll still have some times where our
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: defense gets attacked. Were obviously putting in for the song
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: tackling frills with bags and different tackling circuit stuff. Um,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: but but you know, the days of take the ball
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: carrier down to the ground a hundred times and practice,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: those days have been long gone. And uh, you know
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: if it also is just as as the offenses and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: defenses have evolved in football, I mean that's probably why
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: more teams are going to a more spread out attack, right.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I Mean, it's just not the physical nature of you
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: know what we would call big ten football. That's rare,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: you know, getting the eye formation, turn a hand the
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: ball to the running back and have an old school
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: fullback and tied in. I mean, those days just are
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: are aren't aren't normal anymore. So, Um, that's probably has
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: a lot to do with the way you practice. About
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: five years older than you than one night, and I'd
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: like talk about my high school football day for a second,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: because I played a little bit of myself. But um,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: you know, we played a little bull in the ring
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and we get we get in and everybody circles you,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and you get in, you point boom hit, boom hit.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: You guys still do crap like that because I was
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: stupid of us to do that. So that that was
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: that's actually been outlawed. Uh. You you're not allowed to
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: to really do what what you know, the old school
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma drill or board drills, you know, line up and
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: just bang heads and see who the toughest guy is.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, and that's change that changes as recent as
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: about three or four years ago. So even early in
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: my head coaching career, we would start practice off a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: lot of times, especially in the spring and early fall,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: um with with you know, kind of an attitude drill
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: like that. But you can't do that anymore, and uh,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and I think probably for a good reason. I mean
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: that's like going up and bang your head up against
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: a brick wall, you know, I mean, like why would
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: you do that? Right? I hated it. I hated I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: hated bull in the ring. I would go first before,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: but he got real loose and I'd hop it. I'd
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: be the bull and I'd pick on little guys and
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: they'd say, no, we're gonna send the biggest. It was awful.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Another thing was we were only rewarded with water. Like
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: that was practiced you, you were rewarded with water. And
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: so if you practice hard, you got water. I'm assuming
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: water is readily available these days. It's it's really readily available.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: And every station has a power aid on it too,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: so so then you can get flavored water. Now. So
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you would be amazed. And I
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: know you've been around a lot of obviously with Arkansas
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: and a lot of college programs. I mean, you would
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: be amazed at the common fan who doesn't go watch practice,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and how many athletic trainers and and water services are
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: available for our athletes. And they said every station, it's
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: at every real Um, yeah, they've got they've got water
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: really readily available for him at all times. I'm gonna
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: ask you a tough question here, and what I'm gonna
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: count on is your honesty. You you ever played Maden
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and stolen a play from Madden? You know I haven't
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: played Madden in years, um, but but man, early in
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: my career I was. I was a quarterback coach, um,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you know, when I first broke into college coaching, and
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: uh I still would dabble with Madden at times, um
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: back back then. So there's no doubt. I mean, those
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: concepts are real. I mean it's it's not like they're
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: putting together you know, fake content there, right, it's it's
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: it's real concepts and they work, you know, so I
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: think you know, the glitches in the system sometimes make
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: them catch it when they're not supposed to. But like,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: but like, yeah, that's that's real stuff. We run a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: lot of the same concepts. I mean you look at
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you know, the Green Bay Packers, Uh, I see them.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: We got in our players lounge, We've got Madden and
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: all that Xbox PlayStation. It's always going with guys in there,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and you see guys see coach can be pretty luckily
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: we need to run this play on this it's not
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: quite the way it works. I think I can then,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: oh see, just by being good at Madden. You know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: there's a play that I run. It works a lot
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: on the past, the long teeth I've read write it
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: down if you want, um, but it's play action to
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the left left, the tied end then runs a drag
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: which turns into a corner as the other two wide
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: receivers on the left or crossing the field open every
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: time because that safety bites and next thing you know, boom,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I got kid on the end zone. Coach, feel free
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: to run with it. Yeah, well, well it's funny you
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: explain that we actually completed to pass on a similar
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: concept last Saturday night. So, coach, do you feel because
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I again, you're one of the youngest coaches, um in
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: college football? Do you ever feel that some of the
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: older coaches I don't know, make you earn your stripes
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to them? Is there an age sort of well, we
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: don't feel like you're there quite yet because you are
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: so young. Yeah, I don't think there's any question. I
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: think in any profession that if you break in at
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: a young age, there's almost a almost like a you
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: know a period of time where where you've gotta you've
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: gotta earn your right, you gotta you gotta earn your
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: stripes to be be where you are. And um, you
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: know what's crazy is I'm thirty six years old and
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I'm in year five of being a head coach. I mean,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I got I perceived the head coaching job at thirty
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: one years old here at Central Arkansas and so, um,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm actually I've actually been a head coach
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: longer than all but one coach in our confidence and
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and they're all older and me white a bit older me.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: So um, so I I feel like experience wise, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: as far as just the nuts and bolts of being
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: a head coach, I have five years under my belt,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and so yeah, I'm young as far as the age goes,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: but but a lot of experience comes with that. But
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question that. And then personally,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you always want to be you know, you want to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: do the professional right. You want to make sure that
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you earned the respect of Obviously people you admire are
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: people that maybe you bottle your coaching style after and um,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you know, but it but the bottom line is is
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: is in the NFL has proven it too, um coaching
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: football coaching has become a young man's sport. I mean
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: you look at the age of some of the NFL
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: head coaches. I mean they're they're my age, and there's
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: some there's even I think one or two younger than
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: me at this point. So um, you know people are
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: you know, organizations and and and obviously franchises are are
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: trending toward that direction. I mean, if you can coach,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: you coach. I think as a young minded coach, you've
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: seen a lot of innovation, uh in the way people
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: are are are are coaching football games today, not only
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: college football but in the NFL level. So I think
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: it's just the norm at this point. You know, you've
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: sent basically every passing record at U s A. And
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: you have obviously quarterbacks that you're relying on now to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: perform and hopefully, I'm assuming you want to break your
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: records because that means that you're doing your job as
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: a coach. But do you ever just want to put
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the pads on and go out and throw and seawan
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: how it's really done. I could probably do that. I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: tell our guys all the time, like like, I mean,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I'm I I couldn't. I couldn't go for a whole
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: game and probably make it, But I promise you I
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: could give you a half and being the shape and
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: look like like. And I try to coach my players
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: in this same aspect. That's that's like when I was
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: a player, I was you know I was. I wasn't
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the biggest guy, I wasn't the fastest guy. I didn't
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: have the best arm, but but I had I would
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I would slit your throat to win a game, you know,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and I would go as an altar competitor. And so
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: that's the way I coach them. I I want, I
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: want guys that want to compete. I want and like
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: you said, if if my if my records are broken here, um,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever they are, I hope I'm coaching the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: guy that does it right. That means I'm doing my job.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: So um. But yeah, I mean I could definitely go
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: out there. I go out there and throw the ball
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: at practice and and do some different things. But I'll
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: tell you my arm, my arm doesn't recover quite as
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: well the next day as it used to when I
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: was eighteen to twenty two years old. Why do you
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: find it important to play so many FBS schools? Well,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: I think one there's some benefits to that. One. The
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: first is financially for for a program like us that Um,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: you know, we've played I think seven or eight in
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: my five years, um, and we've got one win out
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: of that group. You know, we beat Western Kentucky and
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and they were you know, they were a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: nine win Bowl team to actually beat the University Arkansas
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: that year. I mean, I'm not trying to bring up
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: that blood there, um Arkansas that year. But but no, no,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: not not not that that. That's not saying that. But
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I just think financially, it's a game for for for
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a you know, a mid major, small program, college book
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: all program, and it allows us to you know, supplement
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: some stuff in our budget, and you know, that's that's
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: a big deal for us. And you know, we you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: we we we obviously have to uh, you know, we
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: have to extend the door a little more than probably
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of the bigger programs. So um, that's a
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: big deal. And then I think recruiting is the second reason.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, you you get an opportunity to recruit guys
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: that you know, maybe felt like they were slided by
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a bigger program or by their flagship state program like
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: we've got you know, I think we've got you know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: we've got double jigget kids from the state of Mississippi.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And to get the chance to play Old miss this
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: year was a big deal to them. And you know
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: because that's the school they grew up loving, grew up
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: rooting for. So to have a chance to go the
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: bought Hemingway Stadium and run out of that tunnel and
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: compete against the team you watch your whole life. I mean,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that's a great opportunity for those guys. So I think
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's twofold obviously the financial games, but I
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: think in recruiting it's the big deal as well. Let's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: talk about the point for a second, because now, if
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: a player plays really well for you, do you automatically
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: have like start recruiting him to stay, which you maybe
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: hadn't had to do before. Yeah, that's that's that's obviously.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: The world we're in right now is um especially at
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: our level of football. I mean here in a couple
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: of weeks, uh, all these fcs and and maybe maybe
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: uh you know, a group of five conferences are about
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to put out there all conference teams, right, So what
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: do you think that you know, what do you think
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the power of five conferences are gonna be doing. They're
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be coming those all conference teams to purge, right,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I mean they want to they want to go get
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: these kids, and they they have success and those can
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: be you know, instant impact guys if they have a
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: space to feel. So. Um, the first thing we're gonna
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: do is we're gonna do a great job recruiting our
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: own players. And I tell our our coaches that that
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: you've got a recruiting area, you've got an assignment, whether
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it's your position, or it's your region that you're recruiting
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: or city you're recruiting, but you better recruit those dudes
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: in your in your room right now that are there
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: right now, uh, moving forward, because we nothing is guaranteed anymore.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: There's no there's no uh, there's no teeth to to
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: transferring at this point. I mean, um, so, so if
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: a kid has success, I mean I don't think there's
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: any question that that that it's going to be difficult
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to hold onto them in the world we're in. Um.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: But I do tell tell our our our our players
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: and our coaches this think we run a program here
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: that that is conducive to success. I mean, look, I
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: try to try to coach our players that you know,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: don't don't uh, you know, don't be wrapped up in
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: your identity on the football field. Hopefully we're giving you
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: more than just football, you know, whether that's the whole
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: collegiate experience, the academic side, the social side, you know,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: so hopefully, hopefully football is not just what's sustaining them
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: here at u c A, but but much before. UM.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: A hypothetical comparison for you, if you don't mind. So,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: if the head coach has a lot of coordinators that
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: move on to bigger jobs, or it could yeah in
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: NFL or college. Either way, that head coach has looked
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: at as successful and other great coordinators want to come
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and work for that coach. In the same respect, if
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you have players, and this is the last question about
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the portal, Let's say you have players that are leaving
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: to go to schools that are bigger. Um, is that
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: looked Is it looked upon you as success because you
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: have players that you've graduated And does that help in recruiting?
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: That's kind of a double edged sword question there, you know, yes,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: yes it does. I would think that I would think
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: that in the world we're in, especially with social media
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just the way we live on
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the internet. I think you know, kids know stuff. Student
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: athletes know stuff, probably more than or quicker than I
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: would as a head coach, so they know the success
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: of what a kid has maybe at their second spot
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: that they went. You know, we we just are are
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: All American receiver last year. Tyler Hudson is the leading
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: receiver this year for the University of Louisville. So like
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: it goes off, he wins a Son Player of the
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Year last year, has you know, fourteen hundred yards receive
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: in twelve touchdowns. You know, he gets the transfer portal.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: He's at University of Louisville and he's their leading receiver
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: right now, and you know they're about to be Bowl eligible.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, so I don't think for one second that
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: people don't see that. Um, you know, how you use
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: that in recruiting is is obviously obviously your your your
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: program and cultures, personal decision. You know, whether you sell
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that or not, I don't know. UM, it's we're still
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: all kind of in that new world of how kind
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: of navigating through this transfer portal and how you how
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you handle it. So, UM, I would say that there's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of programs that they do
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: you use that to their band. Hey, look this this.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Many kids have gone on to play at bigger schools,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: you know, and it's almost like a junior college system, right,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, in your college just sailed to high school recruits. Hey,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: this is how many kids have signed out of here
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: with FPS programs and they get kids because of that.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, I'm not I'm not quite
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: sold on that yet. I mean, I like, I like
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the thought of keeping our guys here in purple and gray.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: But but again, that's not to say that you can't.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: You can't and won't evolve with the times. You are
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: three time All American quarterback and you finish with all
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: these records, Um, you go, and so what happens because
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: you went undrafted? Correct? And so what do you do
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: as someone who obviously has talent who goes undrafted, you
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: have dreams of playing in the NFL. What's what's that
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: next move? And what happened with you? Well, one, I
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: was beyond blessed with the opportunity I had. I mean,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: come and come, you know, finishing my eligibility up in
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, I I got the opportunity to
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: sign with a great agency, went and trained um for
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: the for the NFL combine and and draft. Um gotta
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: attation to the East West Shrine game, and then the
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: following week got an invitation to the Senior Bowl. So
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: um at the time, I was University of Arkansas's first
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl invite, which is obviously the biggest bowl game
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: for a senior as far as that goes. And I
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: went and actually played really well. I was the North
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: team's offensive m v P in the game. So I'm
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: sitting there thinking, man, this the cards are stacking up.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know I'm not a first round, second round,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: third round talent, but man, somebody's got it. Has to
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: take a chance on me in the middle rounds, late
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: rounds and went to the combine. I wasn't obviously told
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: you earlier, I'm not the fastest guy in the world
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: all that, but I threw the ball well, did did
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: did everything I needed to do. Um, it just didn't
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: work out. I did. You know, the draft is a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: fickle situation. You know. There was three different times and
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that two thousand nine NFL Draft where I was getting
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: calls from my agents saying, hey, I think you're I
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: think that the forty niner is gonna take you right here,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and then a pick or two before them would change
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the way they drafted their spot you know, but just
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: it's just such a weird deal and uh, you're at
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the mercy of other people's pick and and and what
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the you know, are they drafted best on the board
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. You know, So it just didn't
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: work out. And so I ended up signing with Jacksonville
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: with the Jaguars and and spent a little time with them,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: and that seemed like a great situation for me, um personally,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: and just just with their quarterback situation didn't end up
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: working out, ended up getting cut and end up with
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the Saints. And after the Saints ended up cutting me. Um,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you know, I just got married to my wife, Jessica.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: We were we had we had been together at u
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: C A met when we were young, and you know,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: we're together through our whole career here. And UM, you know,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I made I kind of made the decision like I know,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a football coach, right, I'm that's that's
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: that's ultimately what I'm gonna be, no matter how long
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I played in NFL or whatever that was. Um, I
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: was going to get into coaching. And UM, we made
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the you know, kind of the decision mutually just to
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: just to pursue the coaching side of it, and UH,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: and really, in hindsight, wouldn't change it one bit. I
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: had some CFL opportunities to go to Canada. UM had
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: a couple of different opportunities to God like, the Steelers
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: called me uh in the middle of the fall season
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: in two thousand nine, I wanted me to come up
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: for a try out. Uh, it just said it just
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: didn't feel right. I felt like I turned the pay.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Each coaching had an opportunity to u c a con
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: be the quarterback coach right away basically UM and and
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: you know, in hindsight, would not would not change I mean,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to get the opportunity to a head football coach at
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: the Division one school at thirty one years old is rare. UM.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: And to be in one place for really your whole
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: coaching career, UM, it's even more rare, right and so
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: UM At this point in my career, I'm just excited
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: to be where I'm at. But those experiences and relationships
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I was able to build and make UM in that
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: process of feeding up to the NFL and even on
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: those organizations UM is definitely something I still think helps
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: me today. You went from QB coach to O C
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: to head coach. All at U c A. You played
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: at U c A. Obviously you're a U s A guy.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I think you're the U s A Hall of Fame.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Like you're already king dgling at U s A. It's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. I'm assuming though, with and this is again
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: just an assumption. I'm assuming you've been getting costs from
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: other places. Yeah, and and and it's and it's happened
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: and and I tell I tell man, I tell people
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: all the time, and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: paint myself in a corner and lie or say something
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: it I come back and say, well you said this
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: this one time. You're never leaving the U c A. Well,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm not gonna say that. I mean, if
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: opportunity comes, that's that's right. Um, you know, whether whatever
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that is or wherever, whatever it looks like. I mean,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: that's a obviously a prayerful consideration I'd make with my
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: family and and and it's but it but it would
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: take it would take a lot, plus the kitchen scene
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: to get me out of this place. And this place
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: is obviously, um I've got deep routes here. Um not
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: only just with the university, but with the community. My
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: wife and kids love it here. I mean, this is
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: just a special place. And I think if anybody spends
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: a little bit of time and this, and not only
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: in this football program, but this university, you figure out
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: real fast that this is just and it's because of
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: the people. It's a special place. And you know, I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: tell people when I get a chance to speak about
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: and promote the university, I mean, you can slip me
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: at the risk and I'll blied purple. I mean it
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: really is. I mean that's really the approach I have,
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: and the you know so much that you see a
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: and this community is given to me. I'm just happy
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I get to give back to you. Here's the thing.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: He's about slitting two different body parts of this interview.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: To be honest with you, coach, You've slipped two body parts,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm that's that's what happens when you're living in
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: the in the n I L and transfer port world. Yeah,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I hear you. Uh So you're born in Mississippi, you
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: went to you played high school BA in Russellville, Right,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, I was born in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, and
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: uh in elementary age, moved up to Arkansas and basically
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: basically was raised in Russellville. Well, listen, coach, I the
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: purple field. Sometimes it's hard to look at. Although it's
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: awesome that you have your own thing. I like that
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: that that people know you guys by the by the field, right,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: it's hard to stand apart in any way whatsoever. So
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: I like I like it just like Boise has their
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: blue field. Like you're known for that, but you're also
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: known for so much more than that. And I love
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: what you've done with the program up there. And man,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: just just keep killing it, you know. I think you
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: said a great example, uh to a lot of people.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Like you know where you fit in. You're celebrated, you
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: also celebrate it very well. And just really looking forward
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: to to seeing you guys, you know, take down some
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: of those big schools when your conference and we'll see
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: what happens. I've always proud to see an Arkansas I
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: consider you an Arkansas guy. Honestly, you're here some Celementories school,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: you're an Arkansas guy. So I always love to seeing
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Arkansas guy doing it, man, because there's not a whole
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: a whole um a lot of form when as a kid,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't get to see a lot a lot of
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Arkansas people setting a good example that you can go
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: and just pursue your dreams. So I appreciate that you
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: do that and you lead by example, and I appreciate
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: your time, coach man. I appreciate a special place and
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and obviously respect what you do and what the way
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: you do it. And uh appreciate you taking the time
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: and listening to my story a little bit and and
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: and getting this opportunity. I know it's a big deal,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: and um, you know, just a blessing man, and uh
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: you know I've got a good group of guys here
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and and love this place and always gonna be purple man.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: Prepare claws up if you need me to draw that
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Madden play out to you Texa to you will because
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you've got my email. I'm always open, open eyes and
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: New Years, I promise. Do you ever try to do
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: the center sneak? Is that a thing? Can you do that?
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: We do? That? You can kids out? The fumba Rooski
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: is in our playbook. So how many players do you
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: think can you how many plays can you call from?
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: All in? How many plays can you call from? Oh? Gosh, man,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: that's a lot estimated ten. Oh, no, way more than
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: way more than that, way more than that. I'm I
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: mean upwards of I would say, you know, in any
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: given game, probably fifty, you know, seventy five. I would
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: say in the playbook, you're talking upwards right, like you
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: may not carry them all on a game. One final question,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the idiot question here. Sometimes if I know they're gonna
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: run on mat and coach, I'll go, I'll go eight,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I'll send eight and I'll drop three back. I'm like,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: we're selling all out. Yeah, that's it. That's yes, that's
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: exactly we're going in. We're going all you ever do
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: that you have to you have to on third and short,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: fourth and short. I mean that you you you've got
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: on your on your paper, you're your your analytics say
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: they're running the ball. You've got to fill all every gap,
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: every gap that's possible on that run run play. So yeah,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I'm all in on that. Probably gonna do a little
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: play action on you though, that tight end move now
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: that I know if I remember coaching against you, that's
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing and running that play I just told
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: you about. If you have ever have anybody does doesn't
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: does the wedge fake quarterback sneak for the faith ball.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: That's that's nasty. That'll get you. That's what I'll do
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: right now. All right, Adam, you want to say anything
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: before we go? Yeah, man, I coach, thank you for
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: your time. I am a Conway guy. I graduated from U.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: S A. We were there at the same time. I
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: watched you play. I watched you throw that fade to
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Aaron for many many times. And uh and it's a
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: real pleasure to have you on. Thanks for selling Conway.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Thanks for loving Arkansas, and thanks for doing what you do. Man. Yeah, Adam,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you're you're stud too. Man. We we we We definitely
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: take great pride and you being a U C alum
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: on what you're doing as well. Man. And he will
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: slit your throat if you give any problems. All right, coach,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: Good to see a coach. Thanks guys, appreciate you guys.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: All right, that's it, thanks to coach, Adam Eddie kick off, Kevin,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys. Please follow at twenty five whistles. This
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: is the halftime show. Please tell your friends we'd love
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: if they started listening to this. And we'll see on Friday.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: And Adam you since you provided the coach today. Once
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: you blow us, how it pleasure? Yeah we go. That
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: joke will never get old. See you next week, everybody,