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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, I want you to just for a second close
- 0:01Speaker 1: your eyes. We're going to go back in time. The
- 0:03Speaker 1: year's nineteen ninety two. We're in Arish, a city right
- 0:07Speaker 1: on the coast in north Sinai, Egypt, and it's three
- 0:10Speaker 1: point zero am.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Oh that hour, the dead of night exactly.
- 0:14Speaker 1: And if you've ever been near the sea at that hour,
- 0:17Speaker 1: you know that quiet. It's a heavy silence. All you
- 0:20Speaker 1: can hear is maybe the wind rattling a shutter somewhere.
- 0:23Speaker 2: It's supposed to be the safest time the time.
- 0:26Speaker 1: On the world is asleep, and you're eleven years old.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Your name is Islam, You're in bed, you're warm, you're safe. Oh,
- 0:32Speaker 1: your parents are in the other room. Your two brothers,
- 0:34Speaker 1: Hechhuan Muhammed, they're nearby. Everything makes sense.
- 0:37Speaker 2: It's that primal feeling of safety. You know your home
- 0:41Speaker 2: is your entire world. Nothing bad is supposed to get in.
- 0:44Speaker 1: And then in a single heartbeat, it does. The silence
- 0:46Speaker 1: is just shattered heavy boots on the pavement outside, shouting,
- 0:50Speaker 1: and then that horrible metallic crash of a door being
- 0:52Speaker 1: kicked right off its hinges.
- 0:53Speaker 2: A police raid, not a knock, a full on siege.
- 0:57Speaker 2: For a kid waking up to that, I mean, the
- 0:59Speaker 2: confus usion must have been absolute, just a sensory overload
- 1:03Speaker 2: of pure fear.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Islam wakes up to total bedlam. There are men in
- 1:08Speaker 1: uniforms everywhere. He's caroalyzed, just watching as they grab his father,
- 1:12Speaker 1: then his mother, a woman named Isziza. She's being handcuffed,
- 1:15Speaker 1: and his brother too. His brothers are being hauled out.
- 1:18Speaker 1: The whole neighborhood is waking up now, peeking through their windows.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Imagine the shame, the noise. Yeah, and Islam is just
- 1:25Speaker 1: dragged out with them, shoved into a police car and
- 1:28Speaker 1: they're all taken to the North Sinai Security Directorate.
- 1:31Speaker 2: And in that car, his mind has to be racing.
- 1:35Speaker 2: But he's thinking like a child, right, He's thinking, what
- 1:37Speaker 2: did we do? Did my dad forget to pay a bill?
- 1:39Speaker 2: Is this some mistake? He's worried about his.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Family, right, he doesn't realize that the very concept of
- 1:44Speaker 1: his family is what's about to be completely demolished.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:47Speaker 1: So they get to the station, cold room, harsh light,
- 1:51Speaker 1: and this is where it happens. This isn't a slow burn.
- 1:54Speaker 1: The police shit this eleven year old boy down. They
- 1:56Speaker 1: look at him, and they just drop a hammer that
- 1:58Speaker 1: shatters his entire reality. They tell him, they say, the
- 2:01Speaker 1: people you live with that woman is Eisa. She is
- 2:04Speaker 1: not your mother. She is a wanted criminal. And those
- 2:06Speaker 1: boys Hesham and Mohammad not your brothers. And you we
- 2:12Speaker 1: have no idea who you are.
- 2:13Speaker 2: Wow, just sit with that for a second. The psychological
- 2:18Speaker 2: violence in that one statement, In one sentence, his entire
- 2:22Speaker 2: past is just deleted. It's not just that his parents
- 2:24Speaker 2: are criminals, it's that they never existed. The woman who
- 2:27Speaker 2: tucked him in at night, a stranger, a kidnapper.
- 2:31Speaker 1: He walked into that police station as Islam, son of Aisa,
- 2:34Speaker 1: and now he's just a ghost.
- 2:36Speaker 2: And this is where our deep dive begins, really into
- 2:39Speaker 2: the story of that ghost, a man who would eventually
- 2:42Speaker 2: take fifty seven DNA tests fifty seven.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Just to answer the simple question who am I?
- 2:47Speaker 2: But to get there, we have to understand the architect
- 2:49Speaker 2: of this whole nightmare, the woman the media would later
- 2:52Speaker 2: call the daughter of Iblis.
- 2:53Speaker 1: The daughter of Satan. That Ziza.
- 2:55Speaker 2: It sounds like a name from some old horror story,
- 2:57Speaker 2: but when you look at the files, I mean she
- 2:59Speaker 2: earned it as Zisa wasn't just a kidnapper. She was
- 3:02Speaker 2: a psychological predator.
- 3:03Speaker 1: And when the police cracked her at the station, her
- 3:06Speaker 1: story just it fell apart, at least some of it did.
- 3:10Speaker 1: She confessed pretty quickly to kidnapping the other two boys
- 3:13Speaker 1: hit him and Mohammed.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Great, and that part of the story it resolves so fast,
- 3:17Speaker 2: which almost makes it crueler for Islam it does.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Haitian was stolen from Alexandria, Mohammed from Irish. The police
- 3:25Speaker 1: find their real families, and within twenty four hours those boys.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Are gone, just like that, reunited with their actual parents.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Can you imagine standing there watching your brothers disappear into
- 3:34Speaker 1: these happy, tearful reunions and you're just left behind waiting
- 3:39Speaker 1: for your turn.
- 3:40Speaker 2: And it never comes because when they ask Azisa, okay,
- 3:42Speaker 2: what about this one who is Islam?
- 3:45Speaker 1: She just ghoestone cold, complete silence.
- 3:47Speaker 2: She admitted to the others, but for Islam nothing, refused
- 3:50Speaker 2: to say who he was, where he came from, anything.
- 3:53Speaker 1: And that silence is the weapon she uses to trap
- 3:55Speaker 1: him for the rest of his life. But before we
- 3:58Speaker 1: get to that, we have to talk about her methods,
- 4:00Speaker 1: because this wasn't, you know, a crime of opportunity.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Oh no, this was a sophisticated long con.
- 4:05Speaker 1: It was theatrical is the perfect word. She literally performed
- 4:10Speaker 1: a pregnancy for her entire community. The report says. She'd
- 4:13Speaker 1: strap layers of cotton and fabric to her stomach, and she.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Was disciplined about it. This wasn't just shoving a pillow
- 4:19Speaker 2: under her shirt. Month by month, she'd add more padding,
- 4:22Speaker 2: so the pregnancy progressed natural to dedication.
- 4:25Speaker 1: It's chilling in the heat of Egypt, walking around like that,
- 4:29Speaker 1: fooling everyone. Yeah, the neighbors, the shopkeeper.
- 4:32Speaker 2: She created the visual proof so that nobody would ever
- 4:35Speaker 2: question it. And then when she was in her ninth month,
- 4:38Speaker 2: that's when the hunt began.
- 4:39Speaker 1: And she didn't just grab any kid. She had a
- 4:42Speaker 1: very specific target. She'd go to government offices like the
- 4:45Speaker 1: Ministry of Health and look for a certain kind of victim.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Tired, poor, overwhelmed mothers exactly.
- 4:52Speaker 1: She played on the exhaustion of poverty. She'd dress up
- 4:55Speaker 1: pretending to be an official. She'd see a mother struggling
- 4:57Speaker 1: with paperwork in a baby and say, oh, let me
- 4:59Speaker 1: help I work here. Just give me the baby for
- 5:01Speaker 1: a second while you go sign those forms.
- 5:04Speaker 2: And she's using authority as her disguise. We're all trained
- 5:07Speaker 2: to trust someone who looks like they're in charge.
- 5:09Speaker 1: So the mother grateful hands over, the baby, goes inside,
- 5:13Speaker 1: comes out five minutes later, and as easy is gone vanished.
- 5:18Speaker 2: She also stalked hospital nurseries, just waiting for that one
- 5:22Speaker 2: moment of distraction. But the performance that didn't even end there.
- 5:26Speaker 1: No, she'd take the stolen baby home, hide it and
- 5:29Speaker 1: wait for nightfall, and then in the middle of the night,
- 5:32Speaker 1: around three am, again, she would.
- 5:34Speaker 2: Start screaming, simulating labor. Her husband, who was completely complicit
- 5:38Speaker 2: in all of this, by the way, oh absolutely, he
- 5:39Speaker 2: would run out and announce to all the neighbors she's
- 5:42Speaker 2: giving birth. It's a boy.
- 5:43Speaker 1: It's just diabolically brilliant. The neighbors hear the screams. The
- 5:46Speaker 1: next morning, there's a baby. Why would they ever doubt it?
- 5:49Speaker 2: And the husband's job was to forge the birth certificates.
- 5:52Speaker 2: He created a whole fortress of paper lies. He even
- 5:55Speaker 2: forged documents for Aziza herself so she could change her aid,
- 5:59Speaker 2: her identity whenever she needed to.
- 6:00Speaker 1: To them, these children were just props, accessories, and when
- 6:04Speaker 1: the whole show came crashing down in nineteen ninety two.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Islam was the prop that got left behind.
- 6:09Speaker 2: So the brothers go home, Aziz is off to prison,
- 6:13Speaker 2: and Islam is just sitting in a police station awarded
- 6:16Speaker 2: the state.
- 6:17Speaker 1: He gets bounced around. First a school director takes him
- 6:19Speaker 1: in for six months, then a teacher. He's terrified he's
- 6:22Speaker 1: going to end up in an orphanage. And then a
- 6:25Speaker 1: man shows up, a glimmer of hope.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Goma Hassan Mastafa. He comes from the Manufia governor. It
- 6:31Speaker 2: says his son was kidnapped years ago, back in nineteen
- 6:33Speaker 2: eighty four from.
- 6:34Speaker 1: A hospital, and the timeline fits, the description fits. The police,
- 6:38Speaker 1: wanting to close the case, bring his he's out. They
- 6:41Speaker 1: ask her is this the father and what does she say?
- 6:44Speaker 1: She looks at Gomean and says, yes, that's him, that's
- 6:46Speaker 1: the father.
- 6:47Speaker 2: Wow, just another lie to serve her own purposes.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Of course, but at the time everyone is relieved. The
- 6:54Speaker 1: police closed the file. Goma gets his son back, Islam
- 6:57Speaker 1: gets a home, He's given a new name, new papers,
- 7:00Speaker 1: and for the next twenty two years that's his life.
- 7:03Speaker 2: He grows up. He thinks the nightmares finally over. But
- 7:07Speaker 2: you can't always fool your own gut.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Can you.
- 7:09Speaker 2: No.
- 7:09Speaker 1: For twenty two years he lived with his family, but
- 7:12Speaker 1: he always described this feeling of wrongness like a puzzle
- 7:15Speaker 1: piece that was just jammed into the wrong spot. He
- 7:18Speaker 1: never truly felt like he belonged.
- 7:20Speaker 2: And that instinct turned out to be right in.
- 7:22Speaker 1: The most brutal way. We fast forward twenty two years.
- 7:25Speaker 1: Islam is a grown man. He's at home and he
- 7:28Speaker 1: overhears a conversation between Goma and his wife, the woman
- 7:31Speaker 1: he thinks is his mother. Oh no, they're arguing about inheritance,
- 7:36Speaker 1: and he hears the mother say, clear as day, he
- 7:39Speaker 1: is not our son. He shouldn't inherit anything.
- 7:42Speaker 2: The floor must have just dropped out from under him.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Again, second time. The first time. You're eleven. Now you're
- 7:46Speaker 1: in your thirties, and the whole foundation of your life
- 7:48Speaker 1: just dissolves instantly. So he confronts them big heated fight.
- 7:53Speaker 1: He demands the truth, He demands the DNA test, and
- 7:56Speaker 1: you know this is where science finally catches up to
- 7:58Speaker 1: all the lives from the nineties.
- 7:59Speaker 2: And the test comes back negative.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Goma is not his father.
- 8:03Speaker 2: So Aziza lied again. Back in nineteen ninety two. She
- 8:06Speaker 2: just handed him over to a stranger to make her
- 8:08Speaker 2: own problem go away.
- 8:09Speaker 1: The last twenty two years were a lie. He was
- 8:12Speaker 1: a placeholder, a replacement for a child they'd lost, but
- 8:15Speaker 1: not their own. He is back to square one, a
- 8:18Speaker 1: man with no history.
- 8:20Speaker 2: This is where the story shifts, though from a tragedy
- 8:24Speaker 2: into like a detective thriller. Islam realizes there is only
- 8:29Speaker 2: one person on earth who knows the truth.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Aziza. She'd served her seven years, her husband served five.
- 8:36Speaker 1: They were out.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Most people would just crumble at this.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Point, but he doesn't. He decides to hunt her down.
- 8:41Speaker 1: He tracks her to Alexandria, and he finds out she
- 8:44Speaker 1: is still living a lie. New documents, new age, new identity,
- 8:48Speaker 1: She's a completely different person.
- 8:49Speaker 2: So he finds her. He's thirty six years old. Now
- 8:52Speaker 2: he stands face to face with the woman who stole
- 8:54Speaker 2: his life. He has the DNA proof in his hand
- 8:56Speaker 2: and he asks her who am I?
- 8:58Speaker 1: And Aziza looks him right in the eye says I
- 9:00Speaker 1: am your mother.
- 9:01Speaker 2: No, I mean that is gaslating on an olympic level.
- 9:04Speaker 2: It's pathological.
- 9:05Speaker 1: It is she and says the police were wrong, Gomo
- 9:08Speaker 1: was wrong. I'm your real mother. Islam knows it's impossible.
- 9:11Speaker 1: He forces her to take a DNA test with him.
- 9:14Speaker 1: He thinks, okay, science will finally shut her up.
- 9:16Speaker 2: The test comes back negative, zero biological relation. He shows
- 9:20Speaker 2: her the paper and she still denies it, still refuses
- 9:23Speaker 2: to break character.
- 9:24Speaker 1: It's infuriating. She's holding the key to his entire existence
- 9:28Speaker 1: and just won't turn it. So Islam has to go nuclear.
- 9:32Speaker 2: He goes to the media, puts his face on TV
- 9:35Speaker 2: all over Egypt, tells his story, I was kidnapped by Aziza.
- 9:39Speaker 2: Do you recognize me?
- 9:40Speaker 1: And because her case was so infamous, the daughter of Iblis,
- 9:43Speaker 1: the floodgates just open. Dozens of families, people who had
- 9:47Speaker 1: babies stolen in the early eighties. They start coming forward.
- 9:49Speaker 2: They see AZA's face and they recognize her, the nurse,
- 9:52Speaker 2: the social worker, and they think, maybe maybe he's our son.
- 9:56Speaker 1: And this begins what, for me is the most excruciating
- 9:59Speaker 1: part of this whole, the cycle of hope and disappointment.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Fifty seven times fifty seven families. The emotional toll of
- 10:06Speaker 2: that is just unimaginable.
- 10:08Speaker 1: It's not just a number. Imagine the scene. Each time
- 10:11Speaker 1: Islam meets a family, a mother and father who's been
- 10:13Speaker 1: greezing for thirty years. They're looking at his face, searching
- 10:17Speaker 1: for their.
- 10:17Speaker 2: Own reflection, crying, hoping, and.
- 10:19Speaker 1: He has to let himself hope to They do the test,
- 10:22Speaker 1: They wait, and then fifty seven times, Islam has to
- 10:26Speaker 1: be the one to tell them, I'm sorry. It's negative.
- 10:29Speaker 2: It's not just losing your family once, it's losing them
- 10:31Speaker 2: over and over and over again. It's a special kind
- 10:35Speaker 2: of torture.
- 10:35Speaker 1: In all this time, Aziza is watching, she knows the truth.
- 10:39Speaker 1: She can end it all with a single sentence, and
- 10:42Speaker 1: she chooses silence.
- 10:43Speaker 2: Which brings us to the big question, why why keep
- 10:46Speaker 2: the secret after all that time?
- 10:48Speaker 1: There were two main theories that came out of the investigation.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Right The first one is the paid job theory, the
- 10:54Speaker 2: idea that Islam wasn't a random theft, that maybe he
- 10:57Speaker 2: came from a powerful or wealthy family, an affair scandal,
- 11:01Speaker 2: and Aziza has paid a lot of money to make
- 11:03Speaker 2: him disappear and.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Her silence is part of the contract, or maybe she's
- 11:07Speaker 1: still afraid of who she was working for.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Plausible, But the second theory that one feels more personal,
- 11:13Speaker 2: more vindictive, the revenge theory.
- 11:16Speaker 1: The story goes that Aziza, who is barren, was relentlessly
- 11:19Speaker 1: mocked by another woman for not being able to have children.
- 11:22Speaker 2: So in this version, she stole that specific woman's child Islam,
- 11:26Speaker 2: not for money, but to inflict the maximum possible pain.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Keeping the secret is the ultimate act of spite. It
- 11:33Speaker 1: denies that mother closure forever.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Exactly if she confesses, the mother gets her son back.
- 11:40Speaker 2: If she takes the secret to the grave, Azisa wins.
- 11:43Speaker 1: We'll never know for sure, because the story ends with
- 11:46Speaker 1: one last violent act.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Yeah, Islam is desperate. He visits Aziza one last time.
- 11:52Speaker 2: She's old, she's sick. He goes to her apartment, begging
- 11:56Speaker 2: her for the truth before she dies.
- 11:57Speaker 1: It's a tense moment, and then Azizsa stands. She walks
- 12:00Speaker 1: over to her window and she throws herself out suicide.
- 12:03Speaker 2: She takes a secret with her.
- 12:05Speaker 1: The ultimate checkmate. But the nightmare doesn't even end there
- 12:08Speaker 1: for Islam. He's immediately arrested. The police assume he pushed her.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Unbelievable. He spends his life looking for his mother and
- 12:14Speaker 2: ends up in a cell accused of killing his kidnapper.
- 12:17Speaker 1: He spends time in custody facing a murder charge. Luckily,
- 12:20Speaker 1: there are witnesses. Neighbors saw her jump. They confirmed he
- 12:23Speaker 1: wasn't even near her.
- 12:24Speaker 2: So he's acquitted.
- 12:25Speaker 1: He's acquitted, but he's lost everything. The only person who
- 12:29Speaker 1: knew the truth is gone. He walks out of that
- 12:31Speaker 1: police station again with absolutely nothing.
- 12:34Speaker 2: The only hard drive that contained his history, her brain
- 12:37Speaker 2: was just completely destroyed.
- 12:38Speaker 1: And that brings us to today. As far as anyone knows,
- 12:42Speaker 1: Islam is still searching. A man just suspended in time.
- 12:46Speaker 1: He has a face, a voice, but no history to
- 12:49Speaker 1: connect them to.
- 12:50Speaker 2: It really makes you think about identity, doesn't it. We
- 12:53Speaker 2: take it for granted. You know your birthday, you see
- 12:55Speaker 2: your grandfather's nose in the mirror. Islam looks in the
- 12:58Speaker 2: mirror and sees a stranger.
- 13:00Speaker 1: And the part that really sticks with you is that
- 13:01Speaker 1: Aziza didn't just steal a baby. She stole a timeline,
- 13:05Speaker 1: She stole a lineage, and by dying, she made sure
- 13:08Speaker 1: he might never get it back.
- 13:10Speaker 2: It's the perfect crime. Really. The victim is alive, but
- 13:13Speaker 2: his life is missing.
- 13:15Speaker 1: So as we wrap this up, I want you to
- 13:17Speaker 1: try something later. Go look in a mirror, really look
- 13:19Speaker 1: at your own face, and just Imagine for a second
- 13:22Speaker 1: that you had no idea where any of it came from.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Imagine every older woman you pass on the street could
- 13:27Speaker 1: be your mother. That is the world Islam lives in.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Every single day, And somewhere out there there might be
- 13:33Speaker 2: a family who thinks their son died thirty or forty
- 13:36Speaker 2: years ago. They have no idea he's alive and looking
- 13:39Speaker 2: for them right now.
- 13:40Speaker 1: A truly haunting reality. That's it for this deep dive.
- 13:44Speaker 1: It's a heavy one, but an important one. Thanks for listening,
- 13:48Speaker 1: Stay curious, See you next time.