Latest / Booked On Rock with Eric Senich / Yngwie Malmsteen: 'I'll Play On Your Song...For A Million Dollars!' [Highlight From Episode 299]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Here's a highlight from a recent episode of Booked on Rock.
- 0:03Speaker 1: First time guest of the podcast it is Gary Say.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Gary's the bassis and co founder of the band's New
- 0:08Speaker 1: England and Alcatraz. He has a brand new book out
- 0:11Speaker 1: now titled No Bass, No Party. How does the band
- 0:14Speaker 1: Alcatraz come together?
- 0:17Speaker 2: Well? I had a Gemini, stayed in La, thought nothing
- 0:21Speaker 2: to go back to Boston. Form to stay in La
- 0:23Speaker 2: and play hardball. Maybe when almost to get a gig
- 0:25Speaker 2: with some famous band and do well. Maybe they could
- 0:28Speaker 2: have been in the same band together. It'd be kind
- 0:30Speaker 2: of cool. I put an ad in a local paper.
- 0:33Speaker 2: One night the phone rang his English voice yelling at me,
- 0:36Speaker 2: saying did he manage Graham bought it from Rainbow and
- 0:39Speaker 2: Barry Mark Barlow, from Joe Thrill Toll and Zell from
- 0:42Speaker 2: Nazareth to the bass players? Are you in the base
- 0:44Speaker 2: screaming this guy? If he's screaming at me, I was
- 0:49Speaker 2: about to go out the door to go someplace, and
- 0:51Speaker 2: I said he I'm the bass player. We got a
- 0:53Speaker 2: record deal just on us in the band, no demo,
- 0:57Speaker 2: And one weekend we got the news that Barry got
- 0:59Speaker 2: offer to play on Robert Plant's first album, Went's Up
- 1:02Speaker 2: and playing his first solo record bringing saying No so
- 1:06Speaker 2: he's out of here and Zala's on Tourial keep Brooks
- 1:09Speaker 2: somewhere in Africa. So we had to find a guitar
- 1:12Speaker 2: playing the drum over the weekend in Los Angeles where
- 1:15Speaker 2: the deal goes down, just to go down, it goes
- 1:17Speaker 2: out the windows.
- 1:18Speaker 1: No pressure there.
- 1:19Speaker 2: So the first night we got auditioned Lawrence Jubbar. We
- 1:23Speaker 2: played guitar for Paul McCartney and we were doing and
- 1:25Speaker 2: a russ ballad song called s o s that Graham
- 1:29Speaker 2: had done on solo record and Cozy Polla played the
- 1:31Speaker 2: drums on you Know. And the first thing he said
- 1:35Speaker 2: and we were done is can you please turn down?
- 1:37Speaker 2: It was like wrong, wrong, And the manager, of course
- 1:42Speaker 2: has running around two in the morning and goes, that's it.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Wings in New England, Rainbow I can sell us, Sure
- 1:47Speaker 2: you can't, but he's not the right guy. We'd be
- 1:49Speaker 2: killing each other before the first gig. I can't do that.
- 1:53Speaker 2: And he went to the next day to a neighbor,
- 1:56Speaker 2: young guy at a record store and said, who's the
- 1:59Speaker 2: hot guy? Said Vey from Sweden. He's playing It's been
- 2:01Speaker 2: a called steeler, so Andy rang him. He said he
- 2:04Speaker 2: wanted dish for Graham Bonnet, and Ingvey couldn't believe. He
- 2:06Speaker 2: thought was a crank phone call. He loved all the
- 2:08Speaker 2: Swedish guys love deep purple. They know all that stuff
- 2:12Speaker 2: backwards and sideways, and they worshiped Richie Blackmore and Graham
- 2:15Speaker 2: was part of that family. And Ingay didn't believe it
- 2:18Speaker 2: at first. And he came down at night and played
- 2:20Speaker 2: for us, and he nailed all that stuff. He could
- 2:22Speaker 2: play any any deep purple song or rainbow song. I
- 2:24Speaker 2: could shake a stick at it. And he became the
- 2:28Speaker 2: guitar player.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Was here falling out with Vey?
- 2:31Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the manager speaking about drugs, swore he had
- 2:35Speaker 2: managed that Robert Palm and basity rose at one point
- 2:38Speaker 2: and the whole thing up his nose and lost his
- 2:41Speaker 2: family and there got back together again. He's tore it
- 2:43Speaker 2: and do it again, sure enough. If we get going,
- 2:46Speaker 2: he's doing it again. And bring an invY with him
- 2:49Speaker 2: and telling me that the best things on slash spread.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Don't worry about the other guys, you know. And like
- 2:54Speaker 2: in Japan, they were saying Alca Fez featuring Ingvey and
- 2:57Speaker 2: Graham saw that hit the roof and that that became
- 3:01Speaker 2: a problem and Anyay just started getting more out of hand.
- 3:05Speaker 2: But just jumping around all over the place. Just play
- 3:07Speaker 2: the song. Just just solve those and go crazy. But
- 3:11Speaker 2: we run around like a crazy person. And he just
- 3:14Speaker 2: got a little hard to deal with. Was this is
- 3:17Speaker 2: not good. And Graham reacted. Rather than taking the reins
- 3:22Speaker 2: and saying is what we're going to do. You're going
- 3:25Speaker 2: to do this or you're out of here, he just
- 3:28Speaker 2: went into the into a shell and just hated day
- 3:31Speaker 2: and everything's bad if it is bad, and come out
- 3:33Speaker 2: of the house. And now I got a problem. We said, well,
- 3:36Speaker 2: it's obviously we've got to change guitar players. Whether he's
- 3:39Speaker 2: going to be famous or not, it doesn't matter. The
- 3:42Speaker 2: group is more important than a single guy doing that.
- 3:45Speaker 2: There's other guitar players on the earth besides besides him.
- 3:48Speaker 2: So he put the word out and Jimmy found Steve
- 3:51Speaker 2: I through David Rosenball played for Rainbow and I think
- 3:56Speaker 2: played for Billy Joel for what and he mentioned Steve
- 3:59Speaker 2: I from Frank Zappas band, and I like the idea
- 4:02Speaker 2: that the music could change a little bit and be
- 4:05Speaker 2: more venturousome and the second record was I love the
- 4:08Speaker 2: second record, and we had problems with Capital Records at
- 4:11Speaker 2: that point, but the music was great. I thought that
- 4:15Speaker 2: a lot of people liked the invade European styles opposed
- 4:17Speaker 2: to Steve's style, which is American kind of center. They're
- 4:21Speaker 2: both amazing players, and they've both been playing together on
- 4:25Speaker 2: the G three circuit for the last thirty years or something.
- 4:28Speaker 2: We're trying to get Invey on some more recent Alcatraz records.
- 4:32Speaker 2: And his manager's wife, she wanted a million dollars to
- 4:37Speaker 2: play on one song. It's like, come on, oh my god,
- 4:42Speaker 2: Jesus even David that he wouldn't get it. A million
- 4:46Speaker 2: dollars on stupid song. Take it half an hour ago
- 4:50Speaker 2: into your studio house on pro tools we have today,
- 4:53Speaker 2: recording to your computer, send a file to some wherever
- 4:56Speaker 2: it has to go to be over with.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Similar to Vinny Vincent, like the their own worst enemy.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think they. He just was just thick,
- 5:05Speaker 2: you know. He was yell and exciting and like his
- 5:08Speaker 2: favorite guitar players was Al tel Meola knew. I said,
- 5:13Speaker 2: you should tell people that that's really interesting. Oh no, no, mon,
- 5:16Speaker 2: it's always Richie Blackmore, who he wrough whatever, but you
- 5:20Speaker 2: should tell him tell me? And who's his favorite band?
- 5:23Speaker 2: No one ever gets this answer. His favorite band was Kansas. Really.
- 5:27Speaker 2: He heired the producer Jeff Glickman to do a couple
- 5:29Speaker 2: of thing they records back in the late eighties early nineties.
- 5:32Speaker 2: He liked Kansas so much, said should tell the people
- 5:35Speaker 2: interviews you like Kansas. He always start Rachie Blackmore was
- 5:39Speaker 2: was mysterious and everything and Graham say that Richie was
- 5:43Speaker 2: as shy. He liked to interviews. He liked being in
- 5:45Speaker 2: a corner. He's afraid of people, and they took to
- 5:48Speaker 2: us being he had to be mean and nasty and
- 5:50Speaker 2: say bad things to people. Don't do that. That's not
- 5:54Speaker 2: the way to go. So he's had that cloud around
- 5:57Speaker 2: and he still has. It was a birthday yesterday day
- 5:59Speaker 2: before nastylized Saints on Facebook. Hate or do hate, No hate,
- 6:03Speaker 2: do hate fifty to fifty And it could be a
- 6:06Speaker 2: lot better in his favor if he didn't come off
- 6:08Speaker 2: like that. But in system doing it, he's a great guy.
- 6:12Speaker 2: He's funny guy, really talented guy. You can play any
- 6:14Speaker 2: kind of you can play the blues, anything, you wants
- 6:18Speaker 2: how to play the guitar,