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Vegas Woman Shoots Pastor Dead in Front of Family After Feud Over Chickens · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Greece.
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Speaker 2: Did a Vegas realtor gunned down her neighbor over some chickens?
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Speaker 2: Did this happen that neighbor a local pastor and in
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Speaker 2: his car at the time daddy is gonned down? Did
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Speaker 2: his children? And did this female realtor then turn the
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Speaker 2: gun on the victim's wife? What over a homeowner association dispute? I,
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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 2: with us here at crime stories and on serious exem
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Speaker 2: one eleven? What the hey gone down over a chicken
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Speaker 2: and a dog? At a homeowner's disagreement? Take a listen
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Speaker 2: to Pastor ty Neil.
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Speaker 3: Nicholas Nick Davy died suddenly and unexpectedly on Friday December
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Speaker 3: twenty ninth, twenty twenty three, at the age of forty six.
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Speaker 3: Nick Lees's wife eighteen years Sarah, and two children, Olivia
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Speaker 3: fifteen and Christian twelve here survived by his father Dominic
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Speaker 3: and mother Lorraine, sister Jean, and brother Michael.
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Speaker 2: I have an all star panel to make sense of
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Speaker 2: what we know about a pastor getting gunned down outside
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Speaker 2: of his home. The alleged cheeter a female realtor, Joe
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Speaker 2: Junio had been posting online about nightmare neighbors for years
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Speaker 2: before she took a gun and unloaded on the pastor
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Speaker 2: then his wife in front of their children. Now, who
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Speaker 2: do you think is the nightmare? Who? Alexis Raschuk is
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Speaker 2: joining me? Let me go to her first crime Online
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Speaker 2: dot Com investigative reporter, but also with me Craig Drummer,
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Speaker 2: Karen Stark, Chris McDonough, doctor Jan Gorniac, Alexis Terreschuk. You
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Speaker 2: know how close I am to my father who passed away.
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Speaker 2: And as we were hearing his colleague, Pastor ty Nils,
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Speaker 2: speaking of the victim, Nick Davey, all I could think
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Speaker 2: about was my dad. When he was forty six. He
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Speaker 2: was still taking me to basketball and football games where
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Speaker 2: I'd be a cheerleader. We'd go to baseball games together,
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Speaker 2: We'd do everything together as a family. These children, I mean,
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Speaker 2: he was with me until after the children were born.
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Speaker 2: My children, they remember my dad. These children Olivia fifteen twelve,
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Speaker 2: and their dad is gone. I mean, they're going to
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Speaker 2: be without a dad in the best years of their life.
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Speaker 4: And the worst part about it is they saw him
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Speaker 4: get shot right in front of them. It wasn't that
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Speaker 4: it happened somewhere else and they heard about it afterwards.
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Speaker 4: They were right there when their father was murdered.
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Speaker 2: And you know what else, I mean, Alexis and everybody
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Speaker 2: else on the panel probably knows this because I talk
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Speaker 2: about my mom a lot. Who lives with me. Now,
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Speaker 2: this guy is a path was a pastor. It takes
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Speaker 2: a special kind of person to live that life. My
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Speaker 2: mom was our organist or church organist for fifty years
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Speaker 2: and our youth leader for twenty years unpaid, I might add,
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Speaker 2: at our little Methodist church in Making, Georgia. I mean,
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Speaker 2: you have to be following a calling to be a
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Speaker 2: pastor or a volunteer at a local church. And that's
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Speaker 2: exactly what this victim, Nick Davey, was doing. Take a
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Speaker 2: listen to more from his co pastor, Pastor ty Neil.
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Speaker 3: Nick bild a warm and loving community in his adopted
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Speaker 3: home of North Las Vegas after he and Sarah moved
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Speaker 3: there in two thousand and five after being displaced by
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Speaker 3: Hurricane Katrina. He followed a calling and joining Grace Point Church,
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Speaker 3: where he became the pastor of Operations, or as we
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Speaker 3: like to call him, the pooh He's.
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Speaker 2: Laughing I'm just imagining his children and his wife sitting
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Speaker 2: there and all over what happened. Take a listen to
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Speaker 2: Rachel Benee, a crime Online the.
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Speaker 5: Davy family's pulling out of a parking spot as Junio
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Speaker 5: drives by them, and according to new who parks your
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Speaker 5: car right next to the Davy's car and rolls down
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Speaker 5: her windows. Pastor Nick gets out of his car to
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Speaker 5: talk to Junio as the children use cell phones to
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Speaker 5: record the altercation.
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Speaker 2: Now, something had to alert the children that they needed
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Speaker 2: to take out their cell phones and record their dad. Again,
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Speaker 2: joining me an all Star panel, but again to Alexis
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Speaker 2: terresta crimeonline dot Com investigative reporter, there was a history
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Speaker 2: between this woman, this Vegas realtor and the pastor. What
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Speaker 2: do we know?
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Speaker 4: They were next door neighbors, but they had in the
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Speaker 4: last few months filed a restraining order against their neighbors.
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Speaker 4: They claimed that she was Wait.
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Speaker 2: When you're saying they and there, please use full names
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Speaker 2: because we don't know who you're talking about.
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Speaker 4: Go ahead, So I am talking about Nick Davy and
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Speaker 4: his wife Sarah. They were neighbors with this woman in
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Speaker 4: Las Vegas. Her name, her name is Joe junior. They
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Speaker 4: lived in a gated community in Las Vegas, a very
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Speaker 4: nice gated community, but they said she had been harassing
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Speaker 4: them for months. She apparently had chickens in her backyard
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Speaker 4: and a lot of dogs, and they were complaining about
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Speaker 4: the chickens and the dogs. They were saying that they
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Speaker 4: just had many complaints about them, that she was not
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Speaker 4: handling them well. So in turn, they say she retaliated
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Speaker 4: against them for they complained to the homeowners association. She
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Speaker 4: was throwing dog poop in their backyard, she was trying
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Speaker 4: to flood their house, and she was making all these
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Speaker 4: threats against them, So they filed a restraining word. They've
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Speaker 4: called the police multiple times saying that she was harassing them.
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Speaker 4: They were worried about him her and then in fact,
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Speaker 4: they felt so threatened by their neighbor that they moved
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Speaker 4: out of their home. They moved in with some friends
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Speaker 4: to stay away from her. So they came back to
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Speaker 4: their home to gather some of their belongings in the
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Speaker 4: middle of the day at two o'clock in the afternoon.
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Speaker 4: They've been there a couple hours to pick up their things.
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Speaker 4: This is, you know, where the family lived full time.
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Speaker 4: These aren't wealthy people with several homes. They were just
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Speaker 4: staying with a friend and had to get some of
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Speaker 4: their things, and that's when they came home and she
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Speaker 4: confronted them again.
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Speaker 2: All of this arising out of complaints about chickens and dogs.
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Speaker 2: Is that correct, Alexis.
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Speaker 4: It is because she is keeping so it is probably
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Speaker 4: legal to have the chickens in the backyard. It is
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Speaker 4: where I live on the West Coast. But she was whatever.
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Speaker 4: The way she was keeping them was driving this family crazy.
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Speaker 4: It was very, very unsettling for them. And then she
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Speaker 4: had a lot of dogs, and so they filed complaints
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Speaker 4: and the chickens and the dogs were unacceptable in the
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Speaker 4: way they could live.
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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, I can tell you a little bit
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Speaker 2: about that, having grown up in the country. Chris mc
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Speaker 2: donne joining me, Director a Cold Case Foundation, former homicide detective,
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Speaker 2: host of a YouTube channel. The interm view Room where
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Speaker 2: I first met him, Chris McDonough, I mean growing up
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Speaker 2: on a farm. For me, it's not just the chickens,
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Speaker 2: but eggs come from somewhere. There's a rooster involved. And
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Speaker 2: you know what roosters do About four am every morning,
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Speaker 2: they're awake and they want everybody else to be awake.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and Nancy, and you just wonder, you know this
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Speaker 6: pastor how many times did you turn the other cheek?
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Speaker 6: And eventually it got to the place where, you know,
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Speaker 6: the devil came collecting, but the devil came collecting for revenge.
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Speaker 6: And you just have to ask yourself, you know what
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Speaker 6: in the world would motivate for miss Juno to take
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Speaker 6: it to such an extreme, especially with the children in.
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Speaker 2: The car, and then turned the gun on his wife
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Speaker 2: over some chickens and a dog. Guys, Well, let's back
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Speaker 2: it up. Who are these people? How did we land here?
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to Sydney Sumner.
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Speaker 7: Nick Davey, born and raised in Riverhead, New York, earns
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Speaker 7: a bachelor's degree from the University of Tampa. He then
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Speaker 7: puts his studies in marine science and biology to work
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Speaker 7: at several large public aquariums in Florida, Mississippi, and Nevada.
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Speaker 7: In two thousand and five, Davy marries his girlfriend Sarah,
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Speaker 7: but the couple is displaced by Hurricane Katrina. They ultimately
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Speaker 7: moved to Las Vegas and joined GracePoint Church. As the
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Speaker 7: family grows with the birth of two children, so does
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Speaker 7: Nick Daviy's calling. Pastor Nick Davey joins the staff at
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Speaker 7: the church, eventually becoming the pastor of operations, overseeing the
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Speaker 7: church's thirty thousand square foot facility.
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Speaker 2: Wow, so that's who they are and they settle in
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Speaker 2: a gated town home community. Not shabby. Listen.
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Speaker 8: The Davies settle into a gated town home community in
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Speaker 8: North Las Vegas, Court of Aliante. Over the last year,
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Speaker 8: difficulties with a neighbor make it necessary for Day to
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Speaker 8: make multiple complaints to the homeowners association. And that's not all.
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Speaker 8: The situation is so bad Davy calls police twice in
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Speaker 8: one month and obtains a restraining order against the neighbor.
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Speaker 8: The family even moves out of their condo for a
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Speaker 8: few weeks to de escalate the tensions. They stay with friends,
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Speaker 8: but return home as necessary to collect additional clothes and
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Speaker 8: personal effects.
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Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into the bottom of it. What is
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Speaker 2: the law? What is the homeowner association rules? Which can
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Speaker 2: be two entirely different things regarding chickens and dogs? Listen.
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Speaker 9: In Las Vegas, homeowners are allowed to keep up to
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Speaker 9: twenty hens per single family resident. Roosters are not permitted
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Speaker 9: within the city limits. Within the city limits, ten chickens
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Speaker 9: are allowed if neighbors give their blessing and writing. Homeowners
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Speaker 9: are also not allowed to have more than six dogs
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Speaker 9: over the age of three months without a special permit.
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Speaker 9: A homeowners association may have different rules in addition to
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Speaker 9: the city rules. When one of Davies's neighbors reportedly violates
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Speaker 9: the rules, Davey takes the matter to the HOA. Instead
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Speaker 9: of handling the problem, the violator is told about the
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Speaker 9: complaint and who filed it. That's when the problems begin.
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Speaker 2: Instead of doing anything about it, they apparently just rat
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Speaker 2: out the complainant. Okay, joining me as I mentioned an
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Speaker 2: all star panel. But now to Craig W. Drummond joining
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Speaker 2: us from this jurisdiction. High profile lawyer in Vegas. You
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Speaker 2: can find him at Drummondfirm dot com. Former prosecutor Craig Drummond. Craig,
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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but the phrase familiarity breeds contempt,
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Speaker 2: true or world were never spoken. How many homicides, burglaries,
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Speaker 2: acts of aggression, rapes, peeping charms have been the result
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Speaker 2: of sharing offense. In other words, neighbors, Nancy.
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Speaker 10: As you know, it's extremely common, but that's the reason
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Speaker 10: why homeowners associations are given powers in Nevada, just like
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Speaker 10: any other states, and so they do have the power
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Speaker 10: to control not only the common areas, but also where
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Speaker 10: a neighbor is being a nuisance or a neighbor is
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Speaker 10: encroaching upon the wellness or safety of other neighbors. In Nevada,
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Speaker 10: these hoas do have some control, and so I have
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Speaker 10: lots and lots of questions given the known facts of
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Speaker 10: this case, I want to know what the HOA knew
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Speaker 10: and when they knew it, and what they actually did.
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Speaker 2: Well. I'm trying to figure out Alexis Russhuk if the
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Speaker 2: law is that you can have twenty hens per single
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Speaker 2: family resident and you can hint it says rooster's not
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Speaker 2: permitted in the city limits. And I know why ten
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Speaker 2: chickens allowed if neighbors give their blessing in writing and
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Speaker 2: they can have They're not allowed to have over six
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Speaker 2: dogs without a special permit.
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Speaker 4: So it seems like this is she was breaking all
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Speaker 4: those rules. But also just saying you're allowed to have chickens,
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Speaker 4: that doesn't mean they can be running around like you
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Speaker 4: have to. You should build a nice coop for them
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Speaker 4: to stay in. But dogs, my cousin have chickens. Their
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Speaker 4: dogs keep eating the chickens in their backyard. It's a mess.
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Speaker 4: This is something. This could be an absolute mess. And
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Speaker 4: it was enough that they complained to the homeowners association
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Speaker 4: multiple times, and she retaliated by a throwing dog poop
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Speaker 4: in their yards. She flooded their.
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Speaker 2: House, throwing faces on their backyard, flooding their home, issuing
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Speaker 2: threats after they complained to the homeowner's association. I don't
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Speaker 2: know why she wasn't already in jail if she did
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Speaker 2: any one of these things. And speaking of chickens, my sister,
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Speaker 2: who's about four years older than me, one of her
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Speaker 2: most dreaded chores was to go in my grandmother's backyard
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Speaker 2: and feed the chickens. Why because you go out there,
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Speaker 2: in the moment you put it in their hands, in
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Speaker 2: your hand to throw it, they converge on you and
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Speaker 2: jump at you and fly toward you. She hated that
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Speaker 2: so much she would be thronged by chickens. So my
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Speaker 2: point is, these chickens could have caused problems we can't
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Speaker 2: even figure out. But I know this, throwing feces onto
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Speaker 2: their backyard, flooding their home, issuing threats after they actually
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Speaker 2: complained to the homeowners association. Looking this photo, Karen Stark
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Speaker 2: Karen Starts, the renowned TV radio trauma expert and consultant
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Speaker 2: at Karenstark dot com, with a c. Have you seen
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Speaker 2: the photo of Junio I have in a shooter stance,
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Speaker 2: holding the gun at the pastor. He's unarmed, He's standing
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Speaker 2: there with his arms at his waist. She unloads on him.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen that picture?
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Speaker 11: I've seen it, Nancy. It's incredible. It's just mind boggling
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Speaker 11: to see that and to realize that someone did this
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Speaker 11: because she was reported to the homeowners' association. It's just
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Speaker 11: it's so clearly a psychopath, someone who is out to
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Speaker 11: get revenge, who cannot stand the idea that anybody would
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Speaker 11: report them, and wants to kill. Murderous rage over that incident.
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Speaker 2: Trying to figure out what the pastor lived through as
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Speaker 2: he blood out because I know this. Joining me is
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Speaker 2: an incredible highly respected forensic pathologists, former medical examiner in
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Speaker 2: this jurisdiction for Clark County. That's Vegas doctor Jan Gorniac,
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Speaker 2: doctor Gorniac, thank you for being with us. I know
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Speaker 2: that Davy was shot in the stomach, so how would
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Speaker 2: that shooting in the stomach kill him?
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Speaker 12: So there's most likely he hemorrhaged, so he lost a
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Speaker 12: lot of blood, so internal bleeding. So depending on where
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Speaker 12: he was hit in the stomach, excuse me, he it
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Speaker 12: could have got his liver, which would obviously would bleed
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Speaker 12: out internal bleeding. It could have gotten his spleen.
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Speaker 2: Why would you obviously bleed out if you were struck
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Speaker 2: in the liver.
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Speaker 12: Well, the liver is just a bloody organ. I mean,
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Speaker 12: if you even think about beef liver in the in
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Speaker 12: the grocery store, it's just a bloody a bloody organ.
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Speaker 12: So when anybody has trauma to the liver, it bleeds.
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Speaker 12: You can even get Sometimes people have CPR done the
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Speaker 12: wrong way and can lacerate cut the liver and bleed
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Speaker 12: out from improper CPR.
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Speaker 2: Is that why the liver is so dark, because it's
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Speaker 2: full of blood?
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Speaker 12: Correct? Yes, yes, yes, yes. And then also depending on
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Speaker 12: the direction it goes, going towards the back. So the
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Speaker 12: a order, which is the main artery coming off of
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Speaker 12: your heart that supplies the rest of your body with
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Speaker 12: blood as depending on the trajectory or the direction that
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Speaker 12: the bullet travels, it could hit that main artery that
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Speaker 12: a order and still cause a lot of bleeding if
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Speaker 12: it goes you know, that can go straight back. It
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Speaker 12: could go down, you know, and still hit a major
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Speaker 12: artery in the body, causing internal internal bleeding. So that
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Speaker 12: sounds like if it hits the habitumen, it's not like
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Speaker 12: it got the heart which is in the chest or
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Speaker 12: the lungs, so abdominal injury. It can even go through
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Speaker 12: the bowel, so you know what's in your bowel, so
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Speaker 12: all that you know, poop I'll call it, you know,
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Speaker 12: could end up in the abdomen and cause infection. But
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Speaker 12: he didn't survive long enough. So this is a case
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Speaker 12: too where it's not a sudden depth. So it just
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Speaker 12: pains me that the children could see this, because this
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Speaker 12: isn't a case whereas he gets shot and then he
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Speaker 12: dies right away. He's gonna you know, have internal bleeding
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Speaker 12: and be aware of you know, being able to you know,
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Speaker 12: then passing out. And then eventually.
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Speaker 2: They're outside their home with his wife and children in
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Speaker 2: the car. And I find it very significant. Let me
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Speaker 2: go to Craig Drummond as a veteran trial lawyer. When
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Speaker 2: I get out of the car for whatever reason, and
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Speaker 2: our children are in the car, they don't take out
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Speaker 2: their cell phone in video what I'm doing. So I'm
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Speaker 2: getting something out of the mailbox or a package or
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Speaker 2: space to a neighbor, they have no reason to think
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Speaker 2: they need to video what I'm doing. But these children,
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Speaker 2: when their dad, the pastor, got out of the car,
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Speaker 2: they immediately started videoing him. I find that very probative.
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Speaker 2: They also were in fear.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, Nancy. That is indicative of somebody in fear for
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Speaker 10: their safety, and not only in fear for what's going
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Speaker 10: on right now, but in fear for what's going to
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Speaker 10: happen in the future, and they want to document it.
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Speaker 10: And yes, I agree that shows that these children they
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Speaker 10: understood that this was not a safe situation and they
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Speaker 10: did what they could do and nationally pull out their phones.
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Speaker 2: Chris, were you saying something, Chris mcdona, Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Nancy, When we look at that photograph as well, you
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Speaker 6: know there's some training here that she's had in the past,
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Speaker 6: because if you look at it, she's got her legs bent,
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Speaker 6: they're slightly apart both of her elbows are lost, and
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Speaker 6: she's in what they call a pistol grip and she's
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Speaker 6: directly aiming at his chest area, which would cause the
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Speaker 6: most damaged. So she got out of that car, and
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Speaker 6: it was clear she knew exactly what she wanted to do.
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Speaker 2: And with no provocation, they pull in Craig Drummond to
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Speaker 2: get belongings. They're leaving. She comes up, cuts them off
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Speaker 2: and gets out of her car, making her the aggressor.
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Speaker 2: He gets out, he's unarmed. Now, under the law of
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Speaker 2: self defense, for instance, you can't slap me in the
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Speaker 2: face and then I take them out my oozy and
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Speaker 2: shoot you dead. That is forced more than necessary to
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Speaker 2: defend oneself right, So her taking out this gun when
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Speaker 2: he's standing there unarmed and he's still buy his car,
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Speaker 2: he has not made a move toward her, she cannot
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Speaker 2: claim self defense. Also, the fact that she gets out
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Speaker 2: of her car with a gun shows me she had
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Speaker 2: intent to kill Nancy.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, So she her response, even if she claims self defense,
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Speaker 10: wasn't proportional to because she gets out with a gun
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Speaker 10: and totally escalates the situation. If she Let's just assume
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Speaker 10: for a second that she had some sort of suspicion
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Speaker 10: that she needed to defend herself. She didn't act proportionally.
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Speaker 10: She escalated the situation, and I think also there's a
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Speaker 10: concern that that well, she should have a concern that
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Speaker 10: the restraining order might come into play as well at trial,
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Speaker 10: because here she's taking this aggressive action even though they
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Speaker 10: have a restraining order supposedly to protect him against her.
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Speaker 2: Guys, what more do we know that led up to
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Speaker 2: the shooting of this pastor in front of his children.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to Rachel Mounea crimeonline dot com.
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Speaker 5: When Nick Davey files for a restraining order against his neighbor,
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Speaker 5: he tells police he and his family feel terrorized after
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Speaker 5: weeks of alleged harassment. The family says the neighbor's thrown
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Speaker 5: rocks and large amounts of dog feces into the yard,
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Speaker 5: accuse the neighbor of flooding their home, and during one confrontation,
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Speaker 5: threatened the Davy children, who were playing in their backyard.
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Speaker 5: The neighbor reportedly pulled a finger across her throat and
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Speaker 5: a cutting motion, saying the family was next A court
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Speaker 5: hearing for that order was to take place Monday, January
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Speaker 5: the eighth.
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Speaker 2: So what happened to that hearing? The court hearing for
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Speaker 2: the order Alexis Tereschuk.
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Speaker 4: Has been continued for now. But the thing is she
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Speaker 4: is now also has a lawsuit answer as well as
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Speaker 4: the criminal trial.
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Speaker 2: I think she'd better worry about the murder case. That's
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Speaker 2: what we pay amount on my mind. We're also finding
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Speaker 2: out that she went online, and I guarantee you all
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Speaker 2: of this will be coming into trial. And she was
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Speaker 2: online and something connected to a Realty Times article venting
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Speaker 2: about her nightmare neighbor.
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Speaker 7: Listen, Joe Junio thirty six, a real estate agent wants
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Speaker 7: you here to link on social media titled avoiding a
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Speaker 7: nightmare neighbor when buying a home. Adaly Mail reports the
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Speaker 7: link explains a nightmare neighbor as someone who complains if
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Speaker 7: your garbage cans are still out five minutes after trash pickup,
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Speaker 7: or if a dog even sniffs his lawn. When Joe
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Speaker 7: Junio learned she has been reported to the Homeowners Association
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Speaker 7: by her neighbors, Nick and Sarah Davie, Junior launches a
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Speaker 7: campaign of terror against the Davies.
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Speaker 2: To Karen Starting joining me, TV radio trauma expert and consultant, Karen,
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Speaker 2: I find it highly probative as to her frame of mind.
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Speaker 2: She's the one causing the problems with chickens, too many dogs,
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Speaker 2: and she is the one who goes on to this
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Speaker 2: online website and posts about her nightmare neighbor because they
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Speaker 2: dared to comply to the homeowners Association.
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Speaker 11: Nancy, when you're a narcissist, you are not responsible for
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Speaker 11: anything to always the other person. And we're also talking
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Speaker 11: about paranoia right looking around to see who's out to
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Speaker 11: get you, which clearly.
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Speaker 12: Was going on.
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Speaker 11: So in her mind, without a doubt, they are victimizing her,
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Speaker 11: not the other way around. And she feels that very
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Speaker 11: very strongly. To the point was she's willing to commit
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Speaker 11: this kind of crime and take this kind of chance
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Speaker 11: without without any kind of doubt in her mind, chelerizing
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Speaker 11: the family.
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Speaker 2: You know, another thing happened Alexis Teroschuk. Apparently prior to
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Speaker 2: the shooting, the shooting death of Pastor Nick, this neighbor,
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Speaker 2: the realtor Joe Junio, she allegedly ran her finger across
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Speaker 2: her throat in a cutting motion and told the pastor's
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Speaker 2: family that they were quote next that's in the court documents.
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Speaker 4: Yes, she was constantly harassing them, confronting them at their home.
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Speaker 4: There was right next to each other, and that's what
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Speaker 4: Sarah had said. The wife, she said she one time
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Speaker 4: said to us, she ran her finger across her throat
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Speaker 4: and said your next which I remember. Wasn't that Jody
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Speaker 4: Arius that did that to you two? And court Nancy?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah she did. She also shot a bird at me.
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Speaker 2: But that said, since she was being guarded by a
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Speaker 2: bunch of armed guards, I wasn't that worried about it.
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Speaker 2: You know, this is not the first time neighbors have
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Speaker 2: actually murdered each other over seemingly innocuous disagreements, such as
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Speaker 2: shoveling snow. Take a listen to Dave.
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Speaker 9: Matt When two feet of snow blankets plains Township, Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 9: about fifteen miles southwest of Scranton, a long simmering feud
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Speaker 9: over snow shoveling between neighbors boils over. Police are called
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Speaker 9: just before nine am two reports of shots fired. On arrival,
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Speaker 9: they find fifty year old James Goy and his wife,
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Speaker 9: forty eight year old Lisa Good, dead in the street
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Speaker 9: from an apparent gunshot wounds. Neighbors point across the street
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Speaker 9: at the home of James Spade, but as police approach
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Speaker 9: the front door, a gunshot rings out as the forty
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Speaker 9: seven year old apparently shoots himself and more. The fight
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Speaker 9: started and ended with snow. Police say the goys were
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Speaker 9: shoveling the snow from their parking spots and throwing the
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Speaker 9: snow onto Spade's property. Spade asked the couple to stop,
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Speaker 9: they yell profanities. James goy throws a tool at Spade
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Speaker 9: and approaches Spade with a closed fist as if to
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Speaker 9: hit him. Spade retreats to his house and returns with
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Speaker 9: a gun, but the goys continue yelling profanities and threatening Spade.
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Speaker 9: Eyewitness reports say Spade open fire on the couple, shooting
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Speaker 9: both of them multiple times. After he runs out of bullets,
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Speaker 9: Spade goes back into his house, retreats another firearm, and
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Speaker 9: shoots them both again.
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Speaker 2: Over shoveling snow and what about over trimming trees? Take
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Speaker 2: a listen to our friends at crime online.
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Speaker 9: About forty five miles north of Orlando, Florida, forty two
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Speaker 9: year old Brian Ford is trim tree limbs along a
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Speaker 9: fence between his property and his neighbors, seventy eight year
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Speaker 9: old Edward Drusilowski. Ford and Drusilowski don't speak much and
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Speaker 9: haven't had any problems in the past, but on this night,
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Speaker 9: Drusilowski tells Ford to get off his property and threatens
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Speaker 9: to shoot his neighbor if he doesn't leave. Drusilowski says
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Speaker 9: he pointed his gun at Ford and the younger man said,
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Speaker 9: you're pointing a gun at me? Are you going to
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Speaker 9: shoot me? Druslawski claims Brian Ford then walked towards him,
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Speaker 9: so he shot him. Brian Ford dies from his gun
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Speaker 9: shot wound.
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Speaker 2: This over trimming trees and what about over a basketball
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Speaker 2: that ends up in your neighbor's yard? Listen?
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Speaker 9: A basketball rolls into Robert Singletary's yard in North Carolina,
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Speaker 9: and when children retrieve the ball, Singletary yells at the children.
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Speaker 9: One of the children tells his father, who went to
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Speaker 9: Singletary's house, and tells the twenty four year old to
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Speaker 9: stop cussing his kid out. If you've got a problem,
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Speaker 9: come to me and we can work it out. Singletary
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Speaker 9: goes inside and comes back out with a gun, opens
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Speaker 9: fire on the neighbors. A six year old girl sustains
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Speaker 9: a wound to her left cheek, her father shot in
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Speaker 9: the back and her mother grazed in the arm. Singletary
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Speaker 9: flees the scene, winds up in Florida, and turns himself
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Speaker 9: into authorities.
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Speaker 2: Over a basketball. Now listen to how this example escalates.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to Dave mac.
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Speaker 9: Lenny Tracy leans a big old tire against his neighbor's fence.
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Speaker 9: At first, the tire doesn't bother Tony Davis, but the
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Speaker 9: weight of the tire causes the fence to bow in
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Speaker 9: and creates an opening that his dogs can now get out.
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Speaker 9: He leaves a simple note for his neighbor, asking Lenny
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Speaker 9: Tracy to move the tire. Tracy takes a fence at
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Speaker 9: his neighbor's request and sees this as nothing less than
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Speaker 9: an act of war. From that moment on, police are
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Speaker 9: regularly called for various slights and acts of aggression. Eventually,
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Speaker 9: both the Davis's and the Tracys file for restraining orders
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Speaker 9: and install outdoor security camera systems. Lenny Tracy adds audio
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Speaker 9: speakers pointed at the Davis home, blasting sounds of birds
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Speaker 9: all night, floodlights aimed at the Davis's bedroom windows, and finally,
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Speaker 9: Lenny Tracy installs an infrared light that would blind the
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Speaker 9: security system installed by Tony Davis. Police believe the infrared
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Speaker 9: light was a triggering event.
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Speaker 2: Okay, did you hear that? Audio speakers pointed at the
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Speaker 2: neighbors blasting sounds of birds, flood lights aim at their
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Speaker 2: bedroom windows, and then finally an infrared light that would
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Speaker 2: blind the neighbor's security system. And of course it didn't
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Speaker 2: end there.
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Speaker 9: Listen, It's nearly three am. When Tony Davis can't sleep.
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Speaker 9: He tells his wife Cindy he's going next door to
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Speaker 9: ask Lenny Tracy to turn off the infrared lights. Davis's nephew,
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Speaker 9: Josh Clinton on snap said the night that my uncle
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Speaker 9: Tony actually decided to walk over there. He was just like,
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Speaker 9: I give up. I just want this to end. Cindy
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Speaker 9: Davis hears two shotgun blasts and runs next door to
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Speaker 9: find her husband Tony, laying on the walkway to the
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Speaker 9: Tracy's front door. Lenny Tracy comes out the door and
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Speaker 9: threatened Cindy Davis. As she tends to her husband, Tracy
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Speaker 9: tells her to leave or she'll get the same thing.
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Speaker 9: Tracy then calls nine one one saying he shot a
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Speaker 9: prowler in self defense. Investigation finds nothing to back up
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Speaker 9: his story of self defense, and Lenny Tracy is charged
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Speaker 9: with murder of Tony Davis. Convicted of first degree murder
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Speaker 9: for Tony Davis, an assault with a firearm for threatening
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Speaker 9: Cindy Davis. Tracy has sentenced to fifty years to life
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Speaker 9: for the murder and fourteen years for the assault on
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Speaker 9: Cindy Davis. Terms to be served consecutive.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Neighbors neighbors joining me right now from crime online dot
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Speaker 2: Com is Sidney Sumner. Sidney, your father had a similar incident.
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Speaker 2: What happened? So?
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Speaker 13: I had actually been out with my mom all day.
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Speaker 13: I believe we were in a school activity or something.
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Speaker 13: When we arrived home, there were two cop cars in
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Speaker 13: our driveway and we came to find out that my
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Speaker 13: dad had been outside doing yard work. It's Houston, everybody
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Speaker 13: has oak trees, and he was blowing leaves out of
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Speaker 13: our driveway into the street to later collect them. Our
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Speaker 13: neighbor that was Tommy corner to us, witnessed this and
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Speaker 13: was upset that the leaves were ending up in the
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Speaker 13: street and physically came across the street and attacked my father.
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Speaker 13: They had a physical altercation and both of the men
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Speaker 13: separated when the neighbor was hurt. He was actually the
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Speaker 13: one who called the police after he was injured, but
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Speaker 13: neighbor's ring doorbell showed that he was the aggressor in
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Speaker 13: the situation, and the cops asked my father if he
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Speaker 13: wanted to press charges, press charges, and we decided that
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Speaker 13: that was not the route we wanted to go.
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Speaker 2: That finally happened.
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Speaker 13: He was in an ankle brace for several weeks after
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Speaker 13: injuring himself, and we all just decided to let it go.
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Speaker 13: My parents lived there for another five years or so
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Speaker 13: before we moved away, and there were just always a
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Speaker 13: little bit of tension in between them.
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Speaker 2: I guess. So when you have to call the police
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Speaker 2: to your front yard, Okay, your dad came out basically unscathed,
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Speaker 2: But when you hear cases like the ones we're talking
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Speaker 2: about right now, in this case where Pastor Nick is
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Speaker 2: gunned down Sydney, do you realize how close your dad
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Speaker 2: was to a very very serious injury.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, we are very very thankful that nothing escalated past
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Speaker 13: that point, it can happen.
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Speaker 2: Just don't get it, guys, what more do we know
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Speaker 2: about Pastor Nick Davy being gunned down in front of
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Speaker 2: his children? Take a listen to the hour cut seven.
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Speaker 8: As Nick Davey asked Junior, what is your problem with us?
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Speaker 8: Junio opens her car door, takes a shooter stance, and
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Speaker 8: fires a gun at Pastor Nick Davey. Davy is shot
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Speaker 8: in the stomach. Junio turns the weapon on Sarah Davy.
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Speaker 8: According to Grace Point, Pastor ty Neil, Sarah goes on
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Speaker 8: the offensive and wrestles the gun away. Sarah Davey is
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Speaker 8: shot in the thigh. Joe Junio runs into her townhouse
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Speaker 8: as nine to one one is called.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to figure something out, Alexis Terreschuk.
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Speaker 2: If all of that was caught on video, then you're
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Speaker 2: going to be able to hear the pastor say what's
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Speaker 2: your problem with us? That is not aggression, No, not
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Speaker 2: at all.
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Speaker 4: He was in his car and she pulled her car
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Speaker 4: into their driveway and blocked them, and she got out
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Speaker 4: of their car. That's when he said, what is your
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Speaker 4: problem with us? Like he got out and said, why
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Speaker 4: are you doing this. We were just here picking up stuff. Lea.
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Speaker 4: These are not his words. He said, what is your
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Speaker 4: problem with us? But his situation was they were just
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Speaker 4: there picking stuff up. They weren't at her house, they
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Speaker 4: weren't on her property. They certainly weren't throwing dog poop
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Speaker 4: in her yard or flooding her house or threatening to
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Speaker 4: kill her. She did all of that to them. They
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Speaker 4: were picking things up from their home because they had
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Speaker 4: moved out, because they were so her behavior, her threatening behavior,
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Speaker 4: was escalating. That's what the That's what Sarah said about it.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious. Chris mcdunn adjoining me, director Cold
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Speaker 2: Case Foundation, and star off a YouTube channel, The Interview Room. Chris,
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Speaker 2: I wonder if the pastor's family had not pressed criminal
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Speaker 2: charges before because they wanted to keep the peace.
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Speaker 6: It certainly does seem that way, Nancy, And I think
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Speaker 6: some of the signals that she was sending they weren't
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Speaker 6: quite picking up. Exactly. What I mean by that is,
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Speaker 6: you know the fact that she's making, you know, the
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Speaker 6: cutthroat type of gestures. I mean that obviously indicates she
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Speaker 6: has gone to the next level. And to your point,
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Speaker 6: I think the pastor just took that as you know what,
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Speaker 6: let's let's just stay calm as a family, you know,
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Speaker 6: and she'll get over this and that. Unfortunately, he escalated
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Speaker 6: it to the point where again, you know, she decides
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Speaker 6: to violence. Is the resolution for.
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Speaker 2: Those of you just joining us. Vegas pastor Nick Davy
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Speaker 2: fatally shot in front of his own children, his wife
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Speaker 2: even taking a gunshot herself. She lived. Now she's left
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Speaker 2: to raise the children without their father. Karen Stark, what
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Speaker 2: were you saying?
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Speaker 11: What I was saying was I think that most people
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Speaker 11: would not believe in a situation like that, that given
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Speaker 11: that signal, that somebody would actually try and kill them.
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Speaker 11: Not that he's wrong in saying that it was a threat,
35:45
Speaker 11: but you would never think that your neighbor would actually
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Speaker 11: try and kill you. However, the fact that they had
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Speaker 11: to move out of their house, it's really hard to
35:56
Speaker 11: understand why nobody did something about that, Why the police
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Speaker 11: didn't do anything, or the association didn't do anything, very
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Speaker 11: very confusing.
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Speaker 2: Another thing the pastor said, as he got out of
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Speaker 2: his car, quote, why don't you leave us alone? We've
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Speaker 2: had enough? Apparently the pastor shouting this at Junio as
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Speaker 2: a child is recording what's your problem with us? The
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Speaker 2: pastor stated before getting out of his car. This woman,
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Speaker 2: even in her mugshot Craig Drummond, a high profile lawyer
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Speaker 2: in this jurisdiction, Vegas, Even in her mugshot, she looks
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Speaker 2: angry and confrontational.
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Speaker 10: Yes, this lady looks like she's obviously rather upset. Obviously
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Speaker 10: by her actions here. It sounds like she's got an
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Speaker 10: anger issue. I think as the criminal case proceeds, there
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Speaker 10: may be some inquiry into any other mental issues going on.
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Speaker 2: Don't start, Drummond, Do not start with me. This is
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Speaker 2: a realtor who is functioning writing articles on some Real
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Speaker 2: to Realty Times website describing her nightmare and neighbor when
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Speaker 2: she's the one with a nightmare, and here you go
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Speaker 2: tuning up about a mental defect? Is that because there's
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Speaker 2: nowhere else to go? She's caught on video doing it,
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Speaker 2: so you can't say I didn't do it. She can't
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Speaker 2: say I did it. But it was self defense because
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Speaker 2: she's armed and he's not. So what's left mental defect?
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Speaker 2: Is that? Why you said that?
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Speaker 10: Perhaps the answer you hit the nail on the head.
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Speaker 10: It seems like factually with the video evidence.
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Speaker 2: You're screwed, and that ain't Latin. I learned to law
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Speaker 2: school either. Man. This is a toughy. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: the only place that defense can go, right, Craig.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, It's certainly an area if I was the defense attorney,
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Speaker 10: which I'm glad i'm not, it's certainly an area that
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Speaker 10: I would have to pursue, because again, I would agree,
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Speaker 10: she's got a major problem here. The facts before and
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Speaker 10: the facts of the event are awful and tragedy.
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Speaker 2: You know what, Craig, I bet she could still claim
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Speaker 2: self defense. Of course, it's not true by saying that
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Speaker 2: she felt threatened, because when he got out of the car,
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Speaker 2: she interpreted that, interpreted that to me he was coming
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Speaker 2: toward her, of course, and you got to take into
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Speaker 2: account that she's the one that cut them off, She's
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Speaker 2: the one that came to them and parked the car.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, self defense is not going to work, You're right, Craig. Johlemen,
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Speaker 2: she's gotta have to go with mental defect unless she
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Speaker 2: can copy cheap plea. You know, I'm very curious to
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Speaker 2: doctor g and Gorniac. When someone is bleeding out from
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Speaker 2: a shot to the abdomen, he's lying there on the pavement.
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Speaker 2: He knows his wife, He may have seen her get shot,
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Speaker 2: his children in the in the car. Is he wondering
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Speaker 2: is she going to shoot my children too? How long
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Speaker 2: could he have stayed awake before he bled out, Doctor garniac.
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Speaker 12: I would say minutes because usually, like I said, if
38:53
Speaker 12: it's not something that's going to be you know, instantaneously
38:57
Speaker 12: lethal like to your herder, to a special portion of
39:00
Speaker 12: your brain, you're going to be aware. So when you're
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Speaker 12: bleeding out, first you're going to lose your blood, and
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Speaker 12: then you're going to your body's going to go into shocks,
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Speaker 12: and then you're going to pass out. You're still going
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Speaker 12: to be alive, but you're going to be you know,
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Speaker 12: unconscious at that that point. So between the time that
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Speaker 12: he shot and the time that you know, his liver
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Speaker 12: or whatever other organs in his appen are bleeding, he's
39:26
Speaker 12: still going to be aware until he loses enough blood
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Speaker 12: that causes him to pass out. So, unfortunately, he would
39:32
Speaker 12: have been aware of, or possibly even maybe not have
39:35
Speaker 12: known exactly that his wife was shot, but he probably
39:38
Speaker 12: may have been able to see it, or may have
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Speaker 12: been able to hear screaming or commotion around him before
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Speaker 12: he went unconscious.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you who else is in trouble, the HOA
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Speaker 2: Homeowners Association, because the victim in this case had gone
39:54
Speaker 2: to them to try to resolve these neighbor to neighbor issues,
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Speaker 2: the chickens, the dogs, the facing, the flooding. Instead of
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Speaker 2: addressing it and fixing it, they rited out the victim's
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Speaker 2: name to the defendant. According to reports, nothing was done
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Speaker 2: and it escalated to the point of alleged murder. Neighbor
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Speaker 2: versus neighbor. I'm looking at an earlier shot of this
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Speaker 2: family outside posing together, the son, the daughter, the wife,
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Speaker 2: the husband, a pastor. Those days are all gone over.
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Speaker 2: This a dispute about chickens. We wait as justice unfolds.
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Speaker 2: Goodbye friend,