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The USF Bulls Offense Is A Problem · 4th AND BULL

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Speaker 1: name is Nick Wise. Thank you so much for checking
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Speaker 1: other USF Bulls fans doing the show from my house today.
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Speaker 1: So at any point, you might hear my dogs go crazy.
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Speaker 1: I apologize. I anticipated happening. My wife is out of town,
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Speaker 1: so I'm a single dog dad the last couple of days,
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Speaker 1: and that will continue through tomorrow. We're just doing guy
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Speaker 1: things over here. Last night, watched football all day, grilled
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Speaker 1: two steaks. I'll have a leftover steak tonight, although I
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Speaker 1: did kind of screw them up. It wasn't great last night.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what I did at the end. I
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Speaker 1: took them off at the right time. I think when
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Speaker 1: I let them rest, I put them on top of
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Speaker 1: each other, and I think that they ended up overcooking.
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Speaker 2: But enough about my steak.
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Speaker 1: My steaks were bad, but they weren't as bad as
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Speaker 1: the offense on Saturday night. We'll also get to the
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Speaker 1: mailbag today, which is presented by thebowlspin.com. And the mailbag
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Speaker 1: is going to be interesting. You guys have a lot
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Speaker 1: of questions.
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I try to answer all your questions.
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Speaker 1: In order to answer all of the questions this week,
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Speaker 1: I would have to do an entire separate podcast. And
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Speaker 1: maybe that is something we do. Maybe I go through
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Speaker 1: a couple of them and then get through the rest
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Speaker 1: of them. Because I don't think we'll have a player
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Speaker 1: show this week. I wouldn't imagine we'll have a player on.
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Speaker 1: just being the short week and those guys playing on
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Speaker 1: Thursday against UTSA. So I'll go through some of the
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Speaker 1: mailbag stuff today, but maybe we do a separate episode
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Speaker 1: of just mailbag questions because there are a lot of them.
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Speaker 1: Recap what happened between USF and Temple, I'd like to
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Speaker 1: They make all of this possible for us, and I
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Speaker 1: guess it's time to get right into it. First, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about Brian Hartline. I have a feeling Brian Hartline,
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Speaker 1: never in a million years, thought it would be this
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Speaker 1: difficult when he took over this job. I can't imagine
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Speaker 1: he ever thought it was going to look like this,
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Speaker 1: specifically on the offensive side of the ball, when he
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Speaker 1: was thinking about this job. when he was at spring
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Speaker 1: camp and then fall camp, never in a million years,
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Speaker 1: he thought the offense would be this bad. And I've
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Speaker 1: got to give credit to the folks that went to
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Speaker 1: this game because you had so many options on Saturday night.
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Speaker 1: You still went to this game and you had to
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Speaker 1: watch that performance by the offense in person. So you
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Speaker 1: guys are true fans.
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Speaker 2: You know what? I should actually give credit to the
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Speaker 2: fan base.
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Speaker 1: Over 36,000 showed up on Saturday. You had, The Lightning
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Speaker 1: home opener going on. You had the Rays taking on
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Speaker 1: the Yankees in the ALDS. The Rowdies were playing. I mean,
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Speaker 1: there was so much going on in Tampa Bay, and
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Speaker 1: yet 36,000 still showed up to support this team. So
4:19
Speaker 1: shout out to Bulls Nation. That's awesome. Kind of just
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Speaker 1: shows you where this program is going. Love to see
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Speaker 1: you guys showed up. Unfortunately, the team maybe didn't show
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Speaker 1: up quite the same way you did.
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Speaker 2: I did not go to the game.
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Speaker 1: I ended up making a decision last minute to go–
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Speaker 1: To the Rays game, I was kind of, I had
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Speaker 1: like FOMO all day. I didn't want to miss out
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Speaker 1: on seeing what the trop was going to look like
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Speaker 1: with 40,000 people in it. I also wanted to know
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Speaker 1: where Yankee fans going to outnumber us. So I decided
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Speaker 1: to go to the trop and I recorded.
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Speaker 2: The USF game.
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Speaker 1: And then I stayed off my phone, which, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not easy to do. we all struggle to stay
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Speaker 1: off our phones these days, you know, whether I'm on
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Speaker 1: social media or a hard rock bet, you know, whatever
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Speaker 1: else I'm doing while I'm at a sporting event. But
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Speaker 1: I recorded the USF game and stayed off social media,
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Speaker 1: completely disconnected, which was actually nice because I just took
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Speaker 1: in the race game and I wasn't looking at my phone. And,
5:24
Speaker 1: you know, because I get mad at people looking at
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Speaker 1: their phone at a baseball game. It's the reason we
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Speaker 1: have all those stupid nets that go all around the
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Speaker 1: stadium now, because people can't stay off their phones. If
5:33
Speaker 1: you could just stay off your phones, we could take
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Speaker 1: those nets down, but people can't stay off their phones.
5:38
Speaker 1: But I did stay off mine Saturday night. Took in
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Speaker 1: the trop, the environment. I thought there was more Rays
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Speaker 1: fans than Yankee fans, despite what some people are telling you.
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Speaker 1: It was definitely an incredible environment. And so I get home.
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Speaker 1: I do not know the results of the USF game.
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Speaker 1: I hit play, and it was... I, it was easy
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Speaker 1: to get into cause there were times where I almost
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Speaker 1: forgot I was watching it on delay. Now it was
6:02
Speaker 1: nice not watching commercials. Uh, I'll tell you that that
6:05
Speaker 1: was great. Uh, being able to fast forward through halftime. Uh,
6:09
Speaker 1: what's funny is I feel like I almost actually caught,
6:12
Speaker 1: I like, I feel like I didn't finish the game
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Speaker 1: much later than had I started it live.
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Speaker 2: Um, interesting way to watch. Not the first time I've
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Speaker 2: done that.
6:20
Speaker 1: I've done that for a game seven of a Stanley
6:22
Speaker 1: cup final in the past before. Um, So there I
6:26
Speaker 1: am sitting there and part of me wanted to just
6:27
Speaker 1: fast forward through a lot of it, but I stuck
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Speaker 1: it out. I watched the entire thing. So I started
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Speaker 1: to talk about Brian Hartline. I'd imagine he never thought
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Speaker 1: this was going to be easy. And like I told
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Speaker 1: you guys at the beginning of the year, this isn't
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Speaker 1: going to be easy just because Brian Hartline's a big name.
6:43
Speaker 1: Brian Hartline still has to come in here and coach
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Speaker 1: and he's got to prove to us he can coach.
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Speaker 1: There were some big jobs open this off season and
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Speaker 1: Brian Hartline, you know, I like to use the Penn
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Speaker 1: State one as an example. Because when this hire was made,
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Speaker 1: everybody instantly thought it was an upgrade. And I said, well,
7:01
Speaker 1: let's pump the brakes a little bit. I know how
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Speaker 1: you feel about Alex Golish, and I understand Brian Hartline
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Speaker 1: probably a bigger name than Alex Golish because he comes
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Speaker 1: from Ohio State. But let's hold off before we call
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Speaker 1: it an upgrade.
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Speaker 2: We've got to see this guy actually coach.
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Speaker 1: The Penn State job made so much sense for Brian Hartline,
7:19
Speaker 1: Big Ten guy, rookie. recruiting ties in that area. And,
7:23
Speaker 1: you know, just being from Ohio state, you would, you
7:25
Speaker 1: would fit there in Pennsylvania. And they remember they, they
7:30
Speaker 1: went down to the wire with Matt Campbell. They had hired,
7:33
Speaker 1: tried to hire the BYU coach Sataki and, or Kalani Sataki, right?
7:38
Speaker 1: I think I got his name, right. And, and, and
7:42
Speaker 1: they went late into the cycle. They never gave Brian
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Speaker 1: Hartline a call and it seemed like it'd be a
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Speaker 1: perfect fit. And the reason why Brian Hartline had never
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Speaker 1: had experience was And I do think USF was the
7:52
Speaker 1: perfect job for him, and I still do. And by
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Speaker 1: the way, let me just say, I'm not out on Harline.
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Speaker 1: I'm just explaining that it was going to be more
8:00
Speaker 1: than just him being a big name to come in here.
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Speaker 1: He was going to still have to show us he
8:04
Speaker 1: knows football and he can coach. And right now, I
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Speaker 1: think we're seeing a lot of struggles with the coaching staff.
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Speaker 1: And I think that, especially on the offensive side of
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Speaker 1: the ball, Tim Beck and Brian Hartline need to look
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Speaker 1: at themselves in the mirror and figure out, what are
8:18
Speaker 1: we going to change? because it kind of feels like
8:21
Speaker 1: we're doing the same thing each and every week. Nothing
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Speaker 1: really changes. I mean, I can pretty much give you
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Speaker 1: the game plan. It's run, run, run with Crowder. It
8:29
Speaker 1: is some pass play sprinkled in here and there. After
8:34
Speaker 1: the run play, it seems like it's a, it's heavy
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Speaker 1: run on first down. Although I actually broke it down.
8:39
Speaker 1: It's not as heavy run on first down as you
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Speaker 1: think they do lean more run first down. It's, It's
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Speaker 1: second down where they get a little bit more unbalanced,
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Speaker 1: and I think in this game in particular, it's because
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Speaker 1: the run game wasn't there. But this coaching staff needs
8:52
Speaker 1: to look itself in the mirror and say, what can
8:56
Speaker 1: we do when the run game isn't there? Because it
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Speaker 1: wasn't there on Saturday, and when the run game isn't there,
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Speaker 1: this team really can't do anything. And I know that
9:05
Speaker 1: you guys want them to just open it up and
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Speaker 1: throw it down the field and just go wild. I
9:11
Speaker 1: totally understand. We all want to see that offense. But
9:15
Speaker 1: unless the run game can get going, none of that's possible.
9:18
Speaker 1: And you saw that on Saturday. I still think this
9:21
Speaker 1: team wants to be a run-first team. And even when
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Speaker 1: the run game isn't working, they continue to lean on
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Speaker 1: the run. And this weekend, it wasn't working. They continued
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Speaker 1: to lean.
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Speaker 2: On the run. And they tried to open it up, too.
9:34
Speaker 2: Drop balls are a problem.
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Speaker 1: This wide receiver room has been very disappointing because there
9:40
Speaker 1: is a lot of talent in the room. And we've
9:41
Speaker 1: been told about how much talent is in the room.
9:44
Speaker 1: by uh players on this team we've been told by
9:47
Speaker 1: uh the athletic this is the most talented roster in
9:50
Speaker 1: the g6 i mean we we thought this wide receiver
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Speaker 1: room was going to be really good and don't get
9:55
Speaker 1: me wrong there is a lot of talent in the
9:56
Speaker 1: room but the drop's got to stop That's on Coach
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Speaker 1: Hartline and the staff. You've got to make sure these
10:01
Speaker 1: guys are not dropping passes, and you've got to give
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Speaker 1: this offense an opportunity, because you catch some of those passes,
10:07
Speaker 1: then maybe the run game starts to click, and maybe
10:09
Speaker 1: more of the passing game starts to click as well,
10:11
Speaker 1: but when you're dropping easy balls, it becomes a problem.
10:16
Speaker 1: So I think these guys need to look at themselves
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Speaker 1: in the mirror and ask themselves.
10:20
Speaker 2: What can we do different and make those changes?
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Speaker 1: Because we can't continue to do the same thing at
10:26
Speaker 1: practice each week. And by the way, Brian Hartline said
10:29
Speaker 1: in his post-game press conference that they had a great
10:32
Speaker 1: practice and they practiced great all week.
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Speaker 2: And I feel like we've heard that before. It's not
10:38
Speaker 2: translating on game day.
10:39
Speaker 1: So something has to change, whether it's the way you coach,
10:43
Speaker 1: whether it's the way you guys call plays. Definitely the
10:46
Speaker 1: way that you're executing plays, things have to change. And
10:50
Speaker 1: I can't use the excuse of they're still gelling because
10:55
Speaker 1: I've used that excuse for the first.
10:57
Speaker 2: Couple of weeks, but we are now into week five.
11:00
Speaker 1: And this is the new era of college football. You
11:04
Speaker 1: have new players every single year and you have to
11:07
Speaker 1: get them to play together fast. And if you can't
11:10
Speaker 1: do that, you're not going to make it because that
11:13
Speaker 1: is Again, the world of college football. They've ruined our sport,
11:17
Speaker 1: and that's what it's going to be like. Covering this team,
11:20
Speaker 1: I know it's going to be a lot of work.
11:24
Speaker 1: I'm learning the roster this year. I've learned it. And
11:26
Speaker 1: now when the season is over, I will have to
11:28
Speaker 1: learn a completely different roster.
11:30
Speaker 2: I'm aware of that.
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Speaker 1: But these guys are going to have to learn to
11:34
Speaker 1: be able to build team chemistry and work as a
11:36
Speaker 1: unit and get it together very quickly because that is
11:40
Speaker 1: the name of the game. And it's like that at
11:42
Speaker 1: every single school. There are teams in the American Conference
11:45
Speaker 1: that had their rosters torn apart, and they are already
11:50
Speaker 1: in sync here in week five while the Bulls are
11:52
Speaker 1: still searching for themselves. Now, Temple wasn't one of those teams.
11:55
Speaker 1: Prop to Temple. I mentioned it on Friday's show. I
11:59
Speaker 1: think they had seven starters. I don't think they lost
12:03
Speaker 1: a single starter. I think that's seven returning on offense,
12:06
Speaker 1: something like that. They didn't lose one starter to the portal.
12:10
Speaker 1: I mean, that's impressive. we can't say the same here. Now,
12:13
Speaker 1: obviously we went through a coaching change, so it's a
12:15
Speaker 1: little bit differently, but you know, I can't use the
12:18
Speaker 1: excuse for the offensive line. Well, they're just yelling and, and, and,
12:21
Speaker 1: and look, I know they're rotating guys in and out
12:23
Speaker 1: of there and the offensive line I thought was better.
12:25
Speaker 1: I actually put this one more on Michael Van Buren jr.
12:29
Speaker 1: Than I do, you know, the offensive line in this game,
12:34
Speaker 1: but I should say this, that the defense deserves better
12:38
Speaker 1: than what they're getting out of this offense. The, The
12:41
Speaker 1: defense overall, I thought, played really good. I'd like that
12:45
Speaker 1: quarterback run for a touchdown back. You never want to
12:48
Speaker 1: lose to a guy that's essentially a running back playing quarterback,
12:52
Speaker 1: and they did get beat a couple times. But your
12:55
Speaker 1: defense can only do so much, and any time your
12:57
Speaker 1: defense gives up just 17 points, you should win the
13:02
Speaker 1: football game. You could say that about the Buccaneers too, right?
13:07
Speaker 1: It seems to be a theme in this town. Right now,
13:12
Speaker 1: the NFL team and the college team look pretty much
13:18
Speaker 1: the same. And in fact, now that I think about it,
13:23
Speaker 1: were the scores of the game the exact? What was
13:25
Speaker 1: the score of the Bucs game? I know it was 17-13,
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Speaker 1: US 7-7. Was it the Bucs and Packers, the same score?
13:33
Speaker 1: Let me verify.
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Speaker 2: That's the one thing about trying to do.
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Speaker 1: So I got my radio show later this afternoon. I'm
13:38
Speaker 1: trying to get this done first. it's trying to remember, no, 17-14.
13:44
Speaker 1: It's trying to remember what happened in each game and
13:48
Speaker 1: separate them. Sometimes you want to combine them, but I
13:52
Speaker 1: guess with USF, you can combine them with the Bucs
13:56
Speaker 1: right now because they're very similar. The only thing different
13:58
Speaker 1: is the record. Thank God they're not 0-4 like the Buccaneers,
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Speaker 1: but they could be. They're just a couple plays away
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Speaker 1: from maybe this season looking a little bit differently, but
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Speaker 1: The offense continues to start slow, and that is a problem.
14:15
Speaker 1: The offense has started slow pretty much all year. They
14:19
Speaker 1: average under four points in the first quarter, and they
14:26
Speaker 1: did a good job keeping their average down where they
14:29
Speaker 1: want it after the first quarter this week. Now, the
14:32
Speaker 1: first quarter, they did look better on that first drive,
14:36
Speaker 1: and I thought for a moment.
14:39
Speaker 2: I thought for a.
14:40
Speaker 1: Moment that maybe they kind of figured things out and
14:42
Speaker 1: they were going to be able to work a little
14:45
Speaker 1: bit quicker and get things going a little bit earlier
14:47
Speaker 1: on in this game. The first drive, it started to
14:49
Speaker 1: look a little promising. And then all of a sudden,
14:52
Speaker 1: it wasn't very promising. And they ended up having to.
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Speaker 2: Kick a field goal.
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Speaker 1: And I felt like that drive really set the tone
14:59
Speaker 1: for the game, I thought. I think if they end
15:01
Speaker 1: up getting a touchdown there, it's maybe a completely different game.
15:06
Speaker 1: Maybe it gives the guys confidence. Hey, we can move
15:08
Speaker 1: the ball early. We can get touchdowns. But instead, it
15:11
Speaker 1: was the same old story. We're going to kick a
15:13
Speaker 1: field goal here. And then they never moved the ball again.
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Speaker 1: After that, they had 58 total yards in the first
15:19
Speaker 1: quarter and those three points. And then in the second quarter,
15:24
Speaker 1: they ended up having just 50 yards of total offense.
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Speaker 2: And so that's unexcusable. 98 yards and a half.
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Speaker 1: With this offense and the talent that this offense is
15:34
Speaker 1: supposed to have is absolutely a disappointment and just can't happen.
15:39
Speaker 1: I thought on that first drive, too, we're going to
15:42
Speaker 1: talk about the play calling and Tim Beck. I know
15:45
Speaker 1: that's a hot topic for Bulls fans right now. But
15:50
Speaker 1: the play calling I thought on the first drive was interesting.
15:52
Speaker 1: It was third and five, and they ran it with Crowder.
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Speaker 1: And they end up losing a yard, and then it
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Speaker 1: becomes fourth and six, and they kick the field goal.
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Speaker 1: The only thing that makes sense there is that, did
16:06
Speaker 1: Brian Hartline tell Tim Beck, you got two plays here?
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Speaker 2: We're going to go for it.
16:11
Speaker 1: And by the way, I like that mentality, because I
16:14
Speaker 1: think if you could have got to fourth and three
16:15
Speaker 1: or less, I do think you go for it there,
16:18
Speaker 1: because the offense has been struggling so much to break
16:21
Speaker 1: through early on in the game. And so that's the
16:25
Speaker 1: only thing that, for me, it justifies a just third
16:28
Speaker 1: and five run up the middle is that you believe
16:30
Speaker 1: in Crowder, right? He is your workhorse. The offense does
16:33
Speaker 1: run around him, and it operates around him. And if
16:37
Speaker 1: he's not operating well, then this offense just isn't going
16:40
Speaker 1: to operate. And so it felt like that was just
16:43
Speaker 1: kind of a sign of what was to come. They
16:45
Speaker 1: stop him for a one-yard loss, settle for a field
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Speaker 1: goal instead of getting the opportunity to go for it
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Speaker 1: on fourth down. And then, of course, it makes the
16:52
Speaker 1: play call look really silly. Now, I don't know if
16:56
Speaker 1: Brian Hartline told Tim Beck, you got two plays. We're
16:57
Speaker 1: going to go for it here.
16:58
Speaker 2: On fourth down.
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Speaker 1: I'm just assuming because I believe it was the very
17:02
Speaker 1: next drive. They did end up going for it on
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Speaker 1: a fourth down. And by the way, on the very
17:06
Speaker 1: next drive, they also ran it on third and five. Now,
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Speaker 1: I don't think the intent was, hey, you have two
17:11
Speaker 1: plays here because they were deep in their own territory.
17:13
Speaker 1: I would have been surprised if they were going to
17:15
Speaker 1: go for it in their own territory unless Hartline's just
17:18
Speaker 1: looking to get really aggressive because of the offense struggling.
17:23
Speaker 1: I just, I don't think it's fair to put the
17:24
Speaker 1: defense in that kind of situation, but they did on
17:27
Speaker 1: the very next drive, go for it on third and five.
17:28
Speaker 1: And of course they went for it on third and five,
17:31
Speaker 1: but they, they ran it on third and five and,
17:33
Speaker 1: and then they ended up getting the first down. So
17:36
Speaker 1: it all worked out, but there were some interesting play call. Like,
17:40
Speaker 1: I guess let's get into the play calling. Cause Tim
17:43
Speaker 1: Beck is again, the number one target from USF fans. I'm,
17:47
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit different than, than a fan, right?
17:50
Speaker 1: When you're, when you're hosting a podcast or radio show,
17:54
Speaker 1: you got to be 100% certain before you call for
17:58
Speaker 1: someone's job. Now for you guys to feel the way
18:00
Speaker 1: you feel and to call for someone's job and, and, and, and,
18:05
Speaker 1: and feel the way you feel about the offense, you
18:06
Speaker 1: are completely justified to your feelings. I'm not telling you,
18:09
Speaker 1: you shouldn't feel that way because you absolutely should. This
18:13
Speaker 1: offense has, has let you down and they have not
18:15
Speaker 1: been very good. But there was, I wrote it down
18:20
Speaker 1: in my notes, the one play call that really drove
18:22
Speaker 1: me nuts more than anything was the second and 13
18:27
Speaker 1: before the two-minute warning. They were still running the ball.
18:32
Speaker 1: And that set up third and eight. And there's now
18:37
Speaker 1: a little just over two minutes, second and 14. Feels
18:42
Speaker 1: like a passing down because if you're passing there, I mean,
18:50
Speaker 1: you throw an incomplete pass, the clock stopped. You can
18:53
Speaker 1: run a number of plays before the two-minute warning. And
18:56
Speaker 1: so second and 13, after you just lost three yards,
19:02
Speaker 1: you then run the ball to set up third and eight.
19:04
Speaker 2: What are we doing? Why are we not throwing the
19:09
Speaker 2: ball there?
19:10
Speaker 1: And so when you see a play like that, you
19:13
Speaker 1: instantly go, what is Tim Beck doing? And so as
19:17
Speaker 1: a fan, that's what you think. And that's what you're
19:20
Speaker 1: supposed to think. Now, I thought the same thing in
19:23
Speaker 1: the moment. But then I really started to dissect it.
19:27
Speaker 1: And I really started, and I'm not going to justify it,
19:29
Speaker 1: but I want you to hear me out. So I
19:31
Speaker 1: really started to dissect what happened in that sequence there.
19:34
Speaker 1: Why would they go for it? And then I start
19:36
Speaker 1: to think back of the entire game. And then after
19:40
Speaker 1: the game is over, I start to rewind it and
19:43
Speaker 1: I go back. Yeah, I tortured myself twice. I don't
19:47
Speaker 1: recommend it. It's the worst part about the podcast. You
19:50
Speaker 1: gotta go back and look at some things. Maybe you
19:51
Speaker 1: don't want to look at them over again. And so
19:55
Speaker 1: I go back after it's over and I look just
19:58
Speaker 1: to see if I can solidify my evidence here. And
20:07
Speaker 1: I thought all night Michael Van Buren Jr. looked uncomfortable.
20:12
Speaker 1: I feel like he never looks comfortable in the pocket.
20:15
Speaker 1: And I guess I can understand that going into this game.
20:17
Speaker 1: The offensive line last week was really bad. I didn't
20:20
Speaker 1: think they were great this game. It wasn't their worst
20:24
Speaker 1: game by any means. But even when the pocket is there,
20:29
Speaker 1: Michael Van Buren Jr. 's first instinct, I always feel like,
20:33
Speaker 1: is to get out of the pocket. I think he
20:35
Speaker 1: hurts himself there. Now, I understand he is mobile. He
20:39
Speaker 1: can throw on the run. But you can also set
20:42
Speaker 1: your feet and make good throws. And I just felt
20:45
Speaker 1: like he was uncomfortable the entire game. He definitely played
20:50
Speaker 1: one of his worst games. His accuracy wasn't great. Now, again,
20:54
Speaker 1: receivers let him down at times when he did throw
20:57
Speaker 1: the ball good. But there were some– was it the
21:00
Speaker 1: last drive or the second-to-last drive he had an open
21:02
Speaker 1: receiver and threw it way behind?
21:03
Speaker 2: It might have been the last throw of the game, actually.
21:07
Speaker 2: He just, he was off.
21:08
Speaker 1: And I felt like MVB just looked really, really uncomfortable. Now,
21:13
Speaker 1: we have seen him throw some of the best passes
21:15
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I mean, that throw to Joshua Porter
21:18
Speaker 1: against Army, I mean, that was perfect. You couldn't ask
21:21
Speaker 1: for a better throw. I mean, he put it right
21:23
Speaker 1: in the bread basket. It was as accurate as could be.
21:27
Speaker 1: And when Joshua Porter was on fourth and bowl, which
21:29
Speaker 1: is presented by Blue Tear, we talked to him about that.
21:32
Speaker 2: And he He was like, he's so accurate. Well, he
21:36
Speaker 2: didn't show that on Saturday.
21:38
Speaker 1: And so after going back and rewatching and then looking
21:42
Speaker 1: at some of the play calling on third and five
21:44
Speaker 1: where they go for the run and then second and
21:46
Speaker 1: 13 right before the two-minute warning, they're still running the
21:48
Speaker 1: ball to set up a third and eight at the
21:51
Speaker 1: end of the game when you're trying to lead to
21:52
Speaker 1: a game-winning drive.
21:53
Speaker 2: With little time left.
21:56
Speaker 1: Is there trust between Tim Beck and Michael Van Buren Jr.?
22:01
Speaker 1: Does Tim Beck trust his quarterback? Because it sure doesn't
22:07
Speaker 1: feel like it. And so when I look at that
22:12
Speaker 1: and I go, does he trust his quarterback? I got
22:15
Speaker 1: to ask myself, is it all on the play calling? Yeah,
22:18
Speaker 1: there's some play calling I don't like, but is Tim
22:21
Speaker 1: Beck limited to what he can call because he's not
22:23
Speaker 1: trusting his quarterback right now?
22:25
Speaker 2: Michael Van Buren Jr. just, again, wasn't comfortable.
22:29
Speaker 1: And I knew when they got that ball back on
22:31
Speaker 1: that final drive, they weren't winning that game. He just
22:34
Speaker 1: didn't look up. And the play calling there was interesting.
22:38
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's on play calling or execution.
22:41
Speaker 1: At some point, you have to be able to go downfield,
22:45
Speaker 1: and they just never did. And I do feel like
22:48
Speaker 1: they were scheming guys open. We did see that. And
22:53
Speaker 1: if you go back and you can really watch it
22:56
Speaker 1: in slow motion, and that's why I hate TV. You
22:59
Speaker 1: can never see what's happening downfield. But there were times
23:03
Speaker 1: where guys were getting open. And again, I think Michael
23:06
Speaker 1: Van Buren Jr. just looked so uncomfortable. And I think
23:09
Speaker 1: there might be a trust issue there. Now, I'm completely speculating.
23:12
Speaker 1: I have no facts. I'm literally just going by off
23:15
Speaker 1: of some of the things that were called. And I
23:18
Speaker 1: know it sounds like I'm justifying to stick up for
23:21
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, but I'm not sticking up for anybody.
23:24
Speaker 1: I think everybody deserves blame.
23:27
Speaker 2: These.
23:28
Speaker 1: Players are paid, and they deserve some of the blame.
23:31
Speaker 1: It can't just be on the coaching staff. Do I
23:34
Speaker 1: think the coaching staff has its issues? 100%. Do I
23:38
Speaker 1: think all of this offense is on play calling?
23:40
Speaker 2: No.
23:42
Speaker 1: A lot of it is on execution. You know, if
23:44
Speaker 1: you're going to call a run play and this team
23:46
Speaker 1: can't execute a run play, that is on the players.
23:51
Speaker 1: And if you can't execute that run play, good luck
23:53
Speaker 1: trying to execute that pass play because it's just never
23:56
Speaker 1: going to happen. This team cannot be a one-dimensional team.
24:01
Speaker 1: They're not good enough in the pass game to be
24:03
Speaker 1: just passing, and they're not good enough in the run
24:05
Speaker 1: game to just be running. And they need both, and
24:09
Speaker 1: they didn't have both on Saturday. But this is every
24:12
Speaker 1: bit as much on the players as it is the coaches.
24:16
Speaker 1: And so I can't come on here and call for
24:18
Speaker 1: an OC's job, even though I know a lot of
24:21
Speaker 1: people want that. I have to 100% be certain before
24:25
Speaker 1: I come out with that claim.
24:26
Speaker 2: And I'll be paying attention to it.
24:28
Speaker 1: And when I feel the time is right, if I
24:30
Speaker 1: feel it gets to that point, I will always be
24:32
Speaker 1: honest with you, and I will tell you, all right,
24:34
Speaker 1: now it's time. But I got to be a little
24:37
Speaker 1: bit more patient and level-headed. Just like, obviously, I'm not
24:40
Speaker 1: a coach, but just like Brian Hartline, right? Like, he
24:43
Speaker 1: can't just go all Jim Mora and get rid of
24:45
Speaker 1: the guy in the first quarter. That was crazy, by
24:47
Speaker 1: the way, if you missed it. Colorado State fired a coordinator, like,
24:51
Speaker 1: after the first quarter. It was.
24:53
Speaker 2: Interesting. I've never seen that before. He says the coach
24:56
Speaker 2: walked off.
24:57
Speaker 1: I have no idea. But regardless, I know a lot
25:00
Speaker 1: of you want to see that happen with the offensive coordinator.
25:02
Speaker 1: But even if you change up the offensive coordinator, I
25:04
Speaker 1: don't think this offense looks different. I truly don't. And
25:07
Speaker 1: that's why I can't go there yet with you. I
25:09
Speaker 1: don't care who's calling the plays on this offense. It's
25:12
Speaker 1: going to look the same. Execution is a problem. And
25:17
Speaker 1: whatever they're doing right at practice but not able to
25:20
Speaker 1: translate that to a game, they got to fix that quick.
25:23
Speaker 1: Or it's going to be as bad as we talked
25:25
Speaker 1: about on Friday. Our biggest fear was you know, on Friday,
25:29
Speaker 1: or it was Thursday we were doing the show, was
25:32
Speaker 1: looking ahead a week and going, they could be four
25:34
Speaker 1: and two a week from now. That is our biggest fear,
25:38
Speaker 1: and we don't want that. I also saw a video
25:41
Speaker 1: after the game of Michael Van Buren Jr. walking into
25:45
Speaker 1: the locker room. So I will set this up in
25:50
Speaker 1: two different ways. If he was hurt and in pain,
25:55
Speaker 1: then okay. that I'm okay with what I saw. If
26:00
Speaker 1: he was not hurt and he was not in pain,
26:04
Speaker 1: not happy with what I saw. But again, I don't
26:07
Speaker 1: know if he was just beat up and injured, but
26:10
Speaker 1: the body language, he just looked. You could tell the
26:14
Speaker 1: loss took a toll on him. And you're my quarterback, man.
26:17
Speaker 1: You're a captain of this team. I can't have you
26:20
Speaker 1: down and out as you walk into the locker room.
26:23
Speaker 1: I need to have you pissed off. I need to
26:26
Speaker 1: have you yell on it, guys. holding them accountable, calling
26:29
Speaker 1: players out, but not calling them out in his like, hey,
26:33
Speaker 1: offensive line, you stink, or hey, wide receiver, how about
26:36
Speaker 1: you catch the ball? Not like that. But you need
26:40
Speaker 1: to call guys out and hold them accountable. At first,
26:44
Speaker 1: it starts with yourself, which he did. He did say
26:48
Speaker 1: after the game that he's got to do more and
26:50
Speaker 1: he's got to get better, and he was right in that.
26:52
Speaker 1: But if you see this video circulating online, you'll know
26:55
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I can't have that kind of
26:58
Speaker 1: body language from my quarterback. Again, if he was beat up,
27:00
Speaker 1: dinged up, and just hurt coming off the field, I'll
27:03
Speaker 1: give him a pass. But I can't have you all
27:08
Speaker 1: up in your feelings as you come off this football
27:10
Speaker 1: team as a leader and as a quarterback. This team
27:13
Speaker 1: needs you to lead by example. They can't see you
27:15
Speaker 1: down and out. You save that for when you get
27:17
Speaker 1: back to your dorm room or wherever you live. You
27:19
Speaker 1: can get all emotional to yourself, but you can't be
27:22
Speaker 1: like that in front of your teammates. So that was
27:24
Speaker 1: just my observation. Again, if he was dinged up, hurt, you.
27:30
Speaker 2: Get a pass.
27:31
Speaker 1: But if he wasn't, I didn't love the way that
27:34
Speaker 1: he walked off the field. And it wasn't that he
27:39
Speaker 1: walked off the field early or anything. It was simply
27:40
Speaker 1: he was literally going back to the locker room. He
27:42
Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong there. It's just the body language,
27:47
Speaker 1: and it just, he looked defeated. And I know they
27:52
Speaker 1: were defeated, but as the quarterback, you can't, You can't
27:56
Speaker 1: look that defeated. But this offense has to figure it out.
28:00
Speaker 1: They got to get rolling sooner in a game. It's
28:02
Speaker 1: interesting because they did it again where the offense was
28:05
Speaker 1: better in the second half. Now, they didn't score, but
28:10
Speaker 1: they did get more yards. And the third quarter was
28:15
Speaker 1: obviously the best quarter, followed up by the fourth quarter.
28:19
Speaker 2: They were better, too.
28:20
Speaker 1: They obviously scored there in the third, but they've got
28:23
Speaker 1: to just get things right. rolling sooner because if not,
28:27
Speaker 1: this season's going to be a very long season. Now,
28:31
Speaker 1: here's what I will say to make you feel a
28:32
Speaker 1: little bit better. I told you last week, this wasn't
28:35
Speaker 1: a playoff team. I know coming into the beginning of
28:39
Speaker 1: the year, the expectations were playoffs and they always should be.
28:43
Speaker 2: And that's great. I like that.
28:45
Speaker 1: But the expectation that this team was going to be
28:48
Speaker 1: a playoff team was kind of silly. I mean, I
28:50
Speaker 1: had people hit me up about my rankings, asking me
28:53
Speaker 1: why USF wasn't in the top 25. And yeah, it
28:57
Speaker 1: was cute that they were 4-0, but come on, guys.
28:59
Speaker 1: Everybody can see that this team was not a top
29:02
Speaker 1: 25 team.
29:03
Speaker 2: There were red flags all over this team.
29:05
Speaker 1: And I think Hartline even kind of alluded to it
29:07
Speaker 1: in his post-game presser, like, the things that have been
29:10
Speaker 1: haunting us have finally caught up to us, and it
29:12
Speaker 1: was only a matter of time.
29:15
Speaker 2: And so we saw this coming. I mean, it.
29:19
Speaker 1: Look, if you watch this show, you kind of had
29:20
Speaker 1: a heads up going in, or if you're listening to
29:22
Speaker 1: this show, because I told you, ignore that 1-3 record
29:25
Speaker 1: by Temple.
29:25
Speaker 2: These guys do some good things. And I said, I
29:29
Speaker 2: was worried.
29:30
Speaker 1: Now, I thought USF was going to pull it out
29:32
Speaker 1: with a last-minute field goal, was my prediction. But I
29:35
Speaker 1: did say, I'm worried about this game, and I think
29:37
Speaker 1: it's going to be one where you are on the
29:38
Speaker 1: edge of your seat the entire time.
29:40
Speaker 2: And it was.
29:41
Speaker 1: And I was on the edge of my seat the
29:43
Speaker 1: entire time. And it's interesting because as many times as
29:46
Speaker 1: they've had a comeback, like against Army or Bowling Green,
29:52
Speaker 1: when they're facing adversity, they overcome it. I didn't feel
29:55
Speaker 1: they were overcoming it at all on Saturday. Okay. I
29:58
Speaker 1: am curious to how you guys felt like when they
30:00
Speaker 1: got the ball back with a chance to go down
30:03
Speaker 1: and win the game, did you ever feel they were
30:04
Speaker 1: going to do it despite them being in those situations
30:07
Speaker 1: before and coming through? I never felt like it was
30:10
Speaker 1: going to happen on Saturday. Saturday just felt a little
30:13
Speaker 1: bit different with this team and the, the red flags have,
30:19
Speaker 1: have now really shown themselves in the loss column and
30:22
Speaker 1: this team, they've got to, they've got to get going.
30:25
Speaker 1: And it's, it's tough to, Because it's their first loss
30:29
Speaker 1: of the year, so they haven't dealt with anything like this.
30:31
Speaker 1: And now they've got to turn around, forget about it
30:33
Speaker 1: really quick, and move on to the next game. I
30:37
Speaker 1: can't remember who was in the postgame presser after Hartline.
30:41
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. But whoever they talked to had
30:46
Speaker 1: said they have a 12-hour rule. And the 12-hour rule
30:50
Speaker 1: is they'll celebrate for 12 hours after a win, and
30:53
Speaker 1: after 12 hours after a loss, they have to get
30:55
Speaker 1: over it.
30:56
Speaker 2: God, I can't remember who they had up there. It's
30:59
Speaker 2: all right.
30:59
Speaker 1: It's not that big of a deal. But regardless, I
31:01
Speaker 1: think that's a good rule, and we're going to see
31:02
Speaker 1: if they really can get over it. Because I'm absolutely
31:06
Speaker 1: nervous about UTSA on Thursday because this could get real
31:08
Speaker 1: ugly real fast. But back to now the expectations of
31:13
Speaker 1: this team. The American Conference is still in front of them.
31:18
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't bet on them to win it. Not
31:21
Speaker 1: playing like this. I think they have the talent to
31:23
Speaker 1: do it, but they got to figure out how they're
31:25
Speaker 1: going to use this talent, and they got to figure
31:27
Speaker 1: out a way to get this talent to execute. because
31:31
Speaker 1: that there are long ways from being able to win
31:33
Speaker 1: this conference, but that is still realistically a goal. And
31:36
Speaker 1: if they can do that, you know, then I think
31:39
Speaker 1: it would be a good season. I, I don't think it's,
31:41
Speaker 1: it was playoff or bust coming into the year. I
31:45
Speaker 1: just think the expectation is best case scenario. They make
31:47
Speaker 1: it to the playoff. Well, those that's over with. They're not,
31:51
Speaker 1: they're not making it to the playoff, but the American
31:54
Speaker 1: conference is still something within reach. Despite us not feeling
31:57
Speaker 1: good about it. Like I said, I wouldn't, If you
32:00
Speaker 1: told me today I had to bet it, right, I
32:03
Speaker 1: wouldn't unless we see some vast improvements. And right now
32:08
Speaker 1: this coaching staff hasn't showed me that we're going to
32:09
Speaker 1: see vast improvements. And now this coaching staff really has
32:13
Speaker 1: their work cut out for them because not only are
32:15
Speaker 1: they coming off of a loss, but quick turnaround to
32:18
Speaker 1: play UTSA on a Thursday night. By the way, Thursday
32:22
Speaker 1: night is going to be loaded. You're going to have
32:24
Speaker 1: the Bucs are also playing on Thursday. The Bulls will
32:30
Speaker 1: be playing on Thursday. And then with the Rays, possible Rays,
32:36
Speaker 1: unless the Rays can win the next two, if they
32:37
Speaker 1: win Monday night, and then if they would play again on, what, Tuesday, Wednesday?
32:43
Speaker 1: There could be a game on Thursday. I know there's
32:44
Speaker 1: a game on Thursday if there's a game four. Would
32:46
Speaker 1: be another loaded Thursday. How the scheduling, I don't know
32:49
Speaker 1: how USF or the Bucs, I mean, the NFL clearly
32:53
Speaker 1: doesn't care about college, but I'm surprised USF put a
32:56
Speaker 1: game on on a Thursday night the same day the
32:59
Speaker 1: Buccaneers play. I don't know how all that happened, but
33:04
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. I do want to show some love to
33:07
Speaker 1: the defense. There's a couple defensive players. I thought that
33:14
Speaker 1: Fortenberry was incredible. He had a big pass breakup at
33:21
Speaker 1: the goal line that would have given Temple the lead.
33:23
Speaker 1: They ended up getting the lead, but in that moment,
33:25
Speaker 1: he made an incredible play to keep the defense alive
33:28
Speaker 1: that I thought was just awesome. And then the fumble
33:33
Speaker 1: recovery that happened in the end zone, that was a
33:37
Speaker 1: Fortenberry hit. I mean, he laid that dude out, and
33:41
Speaker 1: he deserves some praise. So shout out to Fortenberry making
33:44
Speaker 1: some plays there on the back end.
33:46
Speaker 2: I thought he was really good.
33:48
Speaker 1: Major Dillard up front continues to be one of my
33:51
Speaker 1: favorite players to watch. Just a big dude that can
33:56
Speaker 1: just– He's a gap filler, man. I like watching him play.
33:59
Speaker 1: Number 77, just watch him play. He's a fun player
34:03
Speaker 1: to watch. And I want to give credit to Williams, too,
34:07
Speaker 1: for the sack he had late in that game. What
34:08
Speaker 1: a weird sack. It looked like he ripped the quarterback's
34:12
Speaker 1: head off, or is it a horse collar?
34:13
Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was.
34:14
Speaker 1: And then he just had his hands around the shoulder
34:16
Speaker 1: pads and kind of flew behind him and took him down.
34:20
Speaker 1: It was a pretty crazy sack. But, yeah, I just
34:24
Speaker 1: wanted to show a little bit of love to the defense.
34:27
Speaker 1: because I think for the most part they played pretty well.
34:30
Speaker 1: Now there was the touchdown that Temple threw. That was
34:35
Speaker 1: poor tackling. We do got to work on some of
34:37
Speaker 1: our tackling there in the back end. But for the
34:39
Speaker 1: most part, the defense did their thing. They gave the
34:42
Speaker 1: offense plenty of opportunities. They do what they do. They bend,
34:46
Speaker 1: but they don't break. On the offensive side of things,
34:49
Speaker 1: it was just.
34:50
Speaker 2: A very, very rough night.
34:54
Speaker 1: You know, they did outgain Temple yards-wise. USF had 319,
34:58
Speaker 1: and Temple had just 274. The problem was, though, Temple,
35:04
Speaker 1: 182 rushing yards to just 114 for USF, and that's
35:09
Speaker 1: not something we usually see from the USF defense. That
35:11
Speaker 1: was something that was a little bit different from this game,
35:13
Speaker 1: but you were also dealing with a very, very mobile quarterback,
35:17
Speaker 1: and it just felt like, I'm not sure, like, did
35:22
Speaker 1: Aldridge not expect this guy to be as big of
35:26
Speaker 1: an impact as he was because.
35:28
Speaker 1: On Thursday, we talked about this kid being an impact,
35:31
Speaker 1: that he was really good on the ground. I think
35:34
Speaker 1: he had 179 rushing yards going into the game. Now,
35:38
Speaker 1: the defense, though, obviously the 96 yards and 10 plays
35:43
Speaker 1: on that Temple scoring drive, not something you want to see.
35:46
Speaker 1: But overall, I thought there were some guys that deserved
35:49
Speaker 1: to be highlighted. And overall, I think this defense is
35:53
Speaker 1: pretty good. So I'm not really worried about them on
35:56
Speaker 1: the defensive side of things. Now there's things that they
35:58
Speaker 1: can clean up. I don't want to say mobile quarterbacks
36:03
Speaker 1: are the, you know, what this team can't, you know,
36:09
Speaker 1: stop because a lot of defenses can't, you know, stop
36:14
Speaker 1: running quarterbacks. Sorry if you're hearing my dog bark. She's
36:17
Speaker 1: probably going to do that. I got two dogs and
36:21
Speaker 1: they bark at nothing. So sorry if that picked up
36:23
Speaker 1: here on the, on the podcast. I do want to
36:25
Speaker 1: get to, let me make sure before we get to
36:27
Speaker 1: the mailbag, let me make sure I hit all my
36:28
Speaker 1: notes here. Cause there were a couple of things I
36:30
Speaker 1: wrote down so much back to back first halves for
36:36
Speaker 1: the offense without a touchdown. Oh, you know, after Collins
36:40
Speaker 1: had the 21 yard run to the one yard line,
36:43
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that they threw the ball
36:46
Speaker 1: when they got down to the one yard line, but
36:48
Speaker 1: Collins looked pretty good when he does get the ball.
36:51
Speaker 1: but a 21 yard run down to the one yard line.
36:54
Speaker 1: And then they, they come back with a throw to
36:56
Speaker 1: the end zone, which I thought was interesting. They ended
36:58
Speaker 1: up running it on second down to Crowder and they
37:01
Speaker 1: got the touchdown. I think it was Crowder that ended
37:02
Speaker 1: up getting the touchdown.
37:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. But I.
37:07
Speaker 1: Thought it was interesting to pass in that situation. It's
37:09
Speaker 1: like when you do want them to run, they throw
37:12
Speaker 1: when you want them to throw it, they run it.
37:15
Speaker 1: So it was, that was an interesting call.
37:20
Speaker 2: Um, Yeah, the breakdown by quarter is interesting.
37:24
Speaker 1: 58 yards in the first, 50 in the second, 120
37:27
Speaker 1: in the third, 91 in the fourth. I just don't
37:31
Speaker 1: know why they cannot get going sooner. And to let
37:36
Speaker 1: Temple's quarterback go 9 of 14, he only threw for
37:39
Speaker 1: 92 yards. It was the legs. He had the 87
37:42
Speaker 1: rushing yards in that 34-yard game-winning touchdown run. There's just
37:46
Speaker 1: a couple plays on defense they want back. A couple
37:49
Speaker 1: plays worth of difference.
37:51
Speaker 2: And again.
37:52
Speaker 1: If your defense has given up 17 points a game
37:55
Speaker 1: and you lose, that's on the offense. And that was
37:59
Speaker 1: my takeaway with the Buccaneers, too. You know, I put
38:01
Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday, the Bucs defense played well. They didn't
38:04
Speaker 1: generate pressures, but they played well enough to win the game.
38:08
Speaker 1: And the offense didn't hold up their end of the bargain.
38:12
Speaker 1: So it was really interesting to see, literally, it's almost
38:17
Speaker 1: like those two games were the same. And you're not
38:20
Speaker 1: pulling your hair out on a Monday. I will say
38:23
Speaker 1: Cameron Seldon on offense looked good. He had the three
38:25
Speaker 1: catches for 53 yards and felt like anytime he had
38:27
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, he was making a play.
38:30
Speaker 1: So good on him. Thought he was pretty good. All right,
38:35
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38:38
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39:26
Speaker 1: me uh again not going to go through all of
39:30
Speaker 1: them we're already almost 40 minutes into the pod i
39:33
Speaker 1: think since we won't get a player interview maybe we'll
39:36
Speaker 1: do a whole episode of just mailbag questions um so
39:42
Speaker 1: let's start i'll start with greg here's an easy one
39:44
Speaker 1: why do you call it fourth and bowl instead of
39:45
Speaker 1: first and bowl first is always better than fourth I
39:49
Speaker 1: like to live on the edge, Greg. Jay Rusco. Nick,
39:56
Speaker 1: you said a pro-style offense could work. We all push back.
39:59
Speaker 1: Do you still feel it can? And if so, how
40:02
Speaker 1: and why? So I don't think this is a scheme issue. Again,
40:08
Speaker 1: people just want to sling it around all day. You
40:10
Speaker 1: want to be in the spread. You want your quarterback
40:12
Speaker 1: running it. You want to throw it all over the place.
40:15
Speaker 2: I get it. To me, it's not a scheme issue.
40:18
Speaker 2: To me, this is an execution issue.
40:20
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're running a pro-style offense, a
40:22
Speaker 1: spread offense, whatever offense you want to run. If you
40:25
Speaker 1: can't execute the play that's called, it ain't going to work.
40:29
Speaker 1: So to me, it's not necessarily about the style. It's
40:31
Speaker 1: about execution. That's this team's biggest problem. You can change
40:36
Speaker 1: things all you want as far schematically. I don't think
40:40
Speaker 1: it changes anything.
40:41
Speaker 2: I really don't. What do you think Michael Van Buren Jr.
40:45
Speaker 1: Was going to do if all they did was spread
40:48
Speaker 1: it out? What was going to happen? What was going
40:50
Speaker 1: to be different? He's going to still scramble out of
40:53
Speaker 1: the pocket. Right away, that's his first instinct. And he's
40:58
Speaker 1: going to make throws on the run. Nothing's going to change. So,
41:03
Speaker 1: to me, the pro-style offense isn't the problem. It's certain
41:07
Speaker 1: play-calling situations, like, running on second and 13 right before
41:11
Speaker 1: the two minute warning and setting yourselves up with a
41:13
Speaker 1: third and eight. It's running on third and five, losing
41:17
Speaker 1: a yard, having to settle for a field goal when
41:19
Speaker 1: the offense is moving, when guys were getting open in
41:22
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. But yeah, to me, it's just,
41:26
Speaker 1: it's not the style of the offense. And so I
41:28
Speaker 1: don't think that changes anything. I think we just instantly think, well,
41:33
Speaker 1: they're not putting up points. So we have to change
41:35
Speaker 1: the entire scheme of the offense. And that's just not
41:37
Speaker 1: the case. Sometimes you got to hold the players accountable.
41:41
Speaker 1: And I think in college football, we don't do that enough.
41:45
Speaker 1: These guys are paid and we can hold them accountable.
41:47
Speaker 1: And right now they're not doing their job on offense.
41:52
Speaker 1: Here's a question from bearish bulls fan. Does Beck not
41:56
Speaker 1: trust MVB?
41:57
Speaker 2: We talked about that today. I'm not sure. I don't
42:01
Speaker 2: know if he does.
42:04
Speaker 1: And again, I went through, if, if you're kind of
42:06
Speaker 1: just skipping through this and you just happened to land
42:08
Speaker 1: here on the mailbag, go back and listen to the
42:11
Speaker 1: whole show. Cause I kind of talk about this a lot.
42:13
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Tim Beck does trust Michael Van Buren jr.
42:16
Speaker 1: I don't know. Michael Van Buren jr. Trust his offensive line.
42:19
Speaker 1: And I think there might be just trust issues all
42:21
Speaker 1: the way down the line from Tim Beck to MVB
42:25
Speaker 1: to MVB to his, to his unit up front. Cause
42:27
Speaker 1: like I said, I felt like he was always kind
42:29
Speaker 1: of quick to just get out. And, uh, And he's
42:34
Speaker 1: got to do better. So, yeah, there possibly could be
42:41
Speaker 1: trust issues there.
42:42
Speaker 2: I'm not putting it out of the question.
42:47
Speaker 1: Let's see. We have had to shuffle O-line due to injuries.
42:50
Speaker 1: They are good, but new together. That's every team that
42:53
Speaker 1: deals with the portal. How do we take the talented
42:55
Speaker 1: players we have from an offense around and instead stick
42:58
Speaker 1: to an O that doesn't blend with our current players?
43:03
Speaker 1: You know, this is just college football. You got to
43:05
Speaker 1: navigate your way through this thing. And these guys, the
43:08
Speaker 1: coaching staff is going to have to figure it out.
43:10
Speaker 1: And this is going to be something they're going to
43:12
Speaker 1: have to do every single year. And there are going
43:14
Speaker 1: to be years where it just doesn't click. And unfortunately,
43:17
Speaker 1: that's the transfer portal era that we live in.
43:20
Speaker 2: It sucks.
43:21
Speaker 1: Because I would like to see USF be able to
43:23
Speaker 1: recruit guys, bring them in, and let them build over two, three,
43:27
Speaker 1: and four years and then see what happens. You don't
43:28
Speaker 1: get that anymore. So you're going to have to fix that.
43:33
Speaker 1: and you're going to have to be able to blend
43:34
Speaker 1: new players in with old players, and you're going to
43:37
Speaker 1: have to do this every single year. And if that's
43:38
Speaker 1: something the coaching staff can't do, well, then they're not
43:41
Speaker 1: going to be here very long.
43:42
Speaker 2: It's not me calling for their jobs.
43:43
Speaker 1: That's just me letting you know how college football is
43:46
Speaker 1: going to work going forward at really any level, but
43:48
Speaker 1: especially this level.
43:50
Speaker 2: Tony Soprano's nostrils.
43:52
Speaker 1: How much of this blame falls on either players not performing,
43:55
Speaker 1: poor game planning, bad coaching, or just a bad scheme
43:58
Speaker 1: with pieces struggling to fit? I think it's a little
44:02
Speaker 1: bit on all of it, but To me, it's not
44:04
Speaker 1: the scheme. At least I'm not there yet. To me,
44:09
Speaker 1: it falls on the players not executing. That's the route
44:12
Speaker 1: I'm going right now. Again, I'm not saying that Tim
44:17
Speaker 1: Beck and Brian Hartline are innocent in all this, because
44:20
Speaker 1: they're not. They've got to change a lot of things
44:22
Speaker 1: that they do. But to me, if we look at
44:27
Speaker 1: the play calling, for example, there were a couple throws
44:29
Speaker 1: downfield that hit the wide receivers right in their hands.
44:33
Speaker 1: And It ended up being a drop pass. So that's
44:38
Speaker 1: not showing up on the stat sheet. That's not looking
44:40
Speaker 1: like a good downfield pass play. There were opportunities. There
44:44
Speaker 1: were guys that were schemed open. And it's on the
44:49
Speaker 1: quarterback and wide receiver to connect on those opportunities, and
44:51
Speaker 1: they don't.
44:53
Speaker 2: So to me, it's the players right now.
44:57
Speaker 1: They're not executing what is being called. Even if you
45:00
Speaker 1: don't like what's being called as a fan, the player's
45:03
Speaker 1: still got to execute what's being called. And I think
45:05
Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of screenplays because, again, we're going
45:08
Speaker 1: back to that trust thing.
45:09
Speaker 2: Is the trust there? I don't know. I guess we're
45:11
Speaker 2: going to find out coming up in a few weeks.
45:15
Speaker 2: Let's see.
45:17
Speaker 1: Frosty, how in the world does this team not have
45:20
Speaker 1: an operating offense yet? The play calling is horrendous, and
45:22
Speaker 1: we have yet to see this team get into a
45:24
Speaker 1: true solid pace. What do you think is next to
45:27
Speaker 1: even remotely get a pulse on the side.
45:29
Speaker 2: Of the football? That's a good question.
45:33
Speaker 1: I think what they're going to do is continue to
45:35
Speaker 1: try to run the football week in and week out,
45:38
Speaker 1: and they need to make sure the run game is
45:40
Speaker 1: successful because if the run game isn't successful, neither is
45:44
Speaker 1: this offense. That is just how they're built. With the
45:48
Speaker 1: offense struggling, is there a chance Brian Hartline takes over
45:50
Speaker 1: playing calling? If not, why won't he? I think Brian
45:54
Speaker 1: Hartline's got it. a lot going on right now as
45:56
Speaker 1: the head coach. I don't think him calling plays changes anything. Because, look,
46:02
Speaker 1: if Brian Hartline thought that play calling was truly the issue,
46:06
Speaker 1: then he would make a change.
46:08
Speaker 2: He is not going to.
46:10
Speaker 1: Look, I can tell you this just from my conversations
46:12
Speaker 1: with Brian Hartline.
46:13
Speaker 2: He's a prideful guy. He's a competitive guy. Doesn't like
46:16
Speaker 2: to lose.
46:17
Speaker 1: If he felt calling plays was going to substantially help
46:20
Speaker 1: this team, he would.
46:22
Speaker 2: Do it right away. I think Brian Hartline.
46:25
Speaker 1: is smart enough to know that it's so much deeper
46:29
Speaker 1: than calling plays, and I think Brian Hartley knows if
46:31
Speaker 1: he's calling plays, it's still going to look the same.
46:35
Speaker 1: It's not always the play calling, guys. Sometimes the play
46:39
Speaker 1: calling also isn't what it seems like, right? You could
46:43
Speaker 1: go back and watch the All-22, and you're going to
46:45
Speaker 1: discover all kinds of new things. The coaching staff could
46:47
Speaker 1: go watch the All-22. They could see a play where
46:51
Speaker 1: Michael Van Buren Jr. dumps it off to the flats.
46:54
Speaker 1: And you think it's all just another screen call, but
46:56
Speaker 1: really there could be somebody wide open downfield. He just
46:59
Speaker 1: doesn't make the reader the throw. So I I'd really
47:03
Speaker 1: have to go back and watch the all 22. I
47:05
Speaker 1: haven't to, to determine again, if, if it's just the
47:08
Speaker 1: play calling, like everyone seems to be, seems to be
47:11
Speaker 1: thinking because to me, it's, it's still execution. I feel
47:16
Speaker 1: like at this point, I'm, I'm probably just repeating myself
47:19
Speaker 1: over and over. Um, There's a few people in here
47:24
Speaker 1: that are asking about, you know, Army. What happened with
47:31
Speaker 1: Army when they were moving at fast tempo? Why can't
47:34
Speaker 1: we get back into the fast tempo and execute at
47:37
Speaker 1: the level like they did on the final two drives
47:38
Speaker 1: against Army?
47:40
Speaker 2: I see that question in here a few times. Yeah,
47:45
Speaker 2: here it is from Russell Wooten.
47:47
Speaker 1: What changed between the first drive at Army and end
47:51
Speaker 1: of this game? We opened up the Army game with
47:54
Speaker 1: two-minute drill-type offense, and it worked amazing. Who is behind
47:58
Speaker 1: the run-first offense? Becker Hartline. Does Hartline do what Day
48:03
Speaker 1: did after the Big Ten title game? So I believe
48:06
Speaker 1: that running the football is Brian Hartline's strategy. Brian Hartline
48:11
Speaker 1: comes from the Big Ten, and that is what you
48:13
Speaker 1: want to do in the Big Ten. You want to
48:14
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball. When you can run
48:16
Speaker 1: the ball, you can pass the ball. When you can
48:18
Speaker 1: pass and run, you can win a lot of football games.
48:21
Speaker 1: This team has the DNA of, in my opinion, a
48:25
Speaker 1: Big Ten type team. And I think everybody kind of
48:28
Speaker 1: wants this to be more of like an SEC type
48:30
Speaker 1: team where they're in the spread and throwing it around.
48:33
Speaker 1: I think this is what Brian Hartline wants. I think
48:35
Speaker 1: him and Tim Beck put this game plan together.
48:38
Speaker 2: Together. You know, I don't think it's just Tim Beck.
48:41
Speaker 1: Like, I don't think Tim Beck has all that say.
48:43
Speaker 1: I want to be clear that this isn't me standing
48:46
Speaker 1: up for Tim Beck. This is me just trying to
48:48
Speaker 1: be reasonable. Right? Again, when I feel that it is
48:54
Speaker 1: on one person, I will be honest with you. And
48:57
Speaker 1: I will tell you that I'm just not there yet,
49:00
Speaker 1: but I think the difference in army, when you saw
49:03
Speaker 1: the offense moving fast, it wasn't necessarily the offense. So
49:08
Speaker 1: I did go back and watch, uh, the first two
49:10
Speaker 1: drives or I'm sorry, the last two drives of army
49:14
Speaker 1: when they were going no huddle because they had to,
49:16
Speaker 1: there's what five minutes to go. They're down by two scores.
49:19
Speaker 1: I did go back and watch that. And I asked
49:22
Speaker 1: Joshua Porter the question, too. And I don't think sometimes
49:25
Speaker 1: you don't get the answer you're looking for, because when
49:28
Speaker 1: I asked him, you know, was it something they were
49:30
Speaker 1: doing or something you.
49:30
Speaker 2: Guys were doing?
49:32
Speaker 1: Of course, he's going to say, hey, we knew we
49:35
Speaker 1: were going to win that game like it was clicking
49:36
Speaker 1: for us. I went back and watched it and. I
49:40
Speaker 1: would say that those two drives in particular, it wasn't that, like,
49:50
Speaker 1: to me, it was Army gave you those opportunities. Army,
49:53
Speaker 1: I thought, played just stupid defense. It was soft coverage.
50:00
Speaker 1: They were in zone coverage, then they were in soft
50:02
Speaker 1: man a couple times, but they were playing a lot
50:04
Speaker 1: of soft zone, and they were okay with giving you
50:07
Speaker 1: everything in front of them. Now, I thought Army screwed
50:11
Speaker 1: up with a horrible play call to go to cover
50:13
Speaker 1: zero there at the end, but they were in soft coverage.
50:17
Speaker 1: And when a team is playing, they're basically in prevent defense.
50:21
Speaker 1: And when a team's going to play prevent and play
50:23
Speaker 1: that soft coverage, you're going to be able to move
50:25
Speaker 1: it up and down the field at a quick rate,
50:27
Speaker 1: and that's what they did. So to me, it wasn't
50:29
Speaker 1: that the offense was moving and executing because they were
50:33
Speaker 1: going faster and they were catching Army off guard.
50:35
Speaker 2: To me, it was Army was giving it to you.
50:38
Speaker 1: And Army, to me, let you back in that game.
50:41
Speaker 1: And then you made them pay. Now, obviously, the offense
50:43
Speaker 1: still had to execute that fourth down play. And again,
50:46
Speaker 1: cover zero, stupid play call. I don't like that in
50:48
Speaker 1: that situation by Army, but we'll take it.
50:50
Speaker 2: It was a win.
50:52
Speaker 1: But to me, that was the difference in those two
50:56
Speaker 1: drives than this offense going forward. It wasn't the speed
50:59
Speaker 1: they were operating at. It wasn't the style they were
51:02
Speaker 1: playing at. It was simply the defense was giving it
51:05
Speaker 1: to you. Well, the defense isn't going to just give
51:09
Speaker 1: you that week in a week. You ain't getting that
51:12
Speaker 1: every single week. You're only going to get that kind
51:14
Speaker 1: of defense when you're down 14 with five to go.
51:17
Speaker 1: You're not going to get that in the first quarter.
51:19
Speaker 1: They're going to get that in the second quarter. So
51:22
Speaker 1: to me, it's, it's not the offense needs to start
51:25
Speaker 1: working quicker.
51:27
Speaker 2: It just don't. It's plus, I don't think going quicker
51:31
Speaker 2: is going to help them execute.
51:33
Speaker 1: There's an execution issue, but that to me is the
51:37
Speaker 1: difference between, with those two drives than anything else.
51:41
Speaker 2: I think army gave it to you.
51:44
Speaker 1: Um, this account, which is literally a labeled fire, Tim
51:51
Speaker 1: Beck thoughts on Tim Beck.
51:52
Speaker 2: There's no shot. You can still justify what he calls.
51:56
Speaker 2: I see this. Here we go.
51:58
Speaker 1: I've, I've already done that. I can't, I can't, I
52:02
Speaker 1: can't reward it any other way. When I'm ready to
52:05
Speaker 1: get to that point, guys, I'll get there. But to me,
52:09
Speaker 1: it's an overreaction. Problems are never that easy to solve.
52:14
Speaker 1: If it was just that easy to, it's this guy,
52:17
Speaker 1: let's get him out of here, then Brian Hartline would
52:20
Speaker 1: do it.
52:22
Speaker 2: And again, three weeks from now, I might be with you.
52:24
Speaker 2: I'm not ruling that out.
52:27
Speaker 1: But I just think it's so much deeper than that.
52:29
Speaker 1: What do you want a play caller to do when
52:31
Speaker 1: a team can't execute anything?
52:33
Speaker 2: You know?
52:37
Speaker 1: Um, let's see. Why are we running the ball second
52:40
Speaker 1: and 13 on potential game winning drive? The most pathetic
52:42
Speaker 1: thing I've seen in 30 years of USF football. And
52:45
Speaker 1: I've seen every game from start to finish. That's from
52:47
Speaker 1: USF down, dude. I'm with you on that one down. I,
52:50
Speaker 1: that one, I don't understand. The only thing that I
52:53
Speaker 1: can think it's like, do we, do we trust our quarterback?
52:56
Speaker 1: And even if you don't trust your quarterback, you still
52:58
Speaker 1: got to throw it in that situation. No, I'm with
53:02
Speaker 1: you on that. Now that's, that's one of those play
53:04
Speaker 1: calls again. There are some plays that I am calling
53:06
Speaker 1: Tim Beck out on that I don't agree with.
53:10
Speaker 2: And that is one of them.
53:12
Speaker 1: It didn't make any sense. At what point do we
53:16
Speaker 1: blame coaching? This team clearly has the talent. I think
53:19
Speaker 1: we can blame coaching now. And I know that does
53:22
Speaker 1: it sound like I contradicted myself? I want to be
53:24
Speaker 1: very clear. Tim Beck is at fault here, right? He
53:30
Speaker 1: is one part of the equation. Brian Hartline is at
53:33
Speaker 1: fault here. Brian Hartline isn't just a great coach because
53:37
Speaker 1: he's Brian Hartline. He's got to go out and prove it.
53:40
Speaker 1: And we haven't seen it. This team still looks dysfunctional.
53:43
Speaker 1: And now penalties are starting to creep up. You know,
53:45
Speaker 1: that was the one thing we could give him credit on. Hey,
53:47
Speaker 1: this team has discipline. They don't create penalty. Well, it's
53:49
Speaker 1: starting to change. So, yeah, I think the coaching staff
53:55
Speaker 1: has a lot of changes they need to make. And
53:59
Speaker 1: they better make them quickly. Or this thing's going to
54:02
Speaker 1: get ugly. Let me see. What is the concern meter
54:13
Speaker 1: on Heartline? Presser was kind of not caring and not angry.
54:19
Speaker 2: Oh, he was angry.
54:21
Speaker 1: I thought what's interesting about the Brian Heartline press conference,
54:23
Speaker 1: my observation in the way he handles pressers, you can
54:28
Speaker 1: tell he's a younger coach and hasn't really done that.
54:31
Speaker 1: And that was his first press conference after a loss.
54:34
Speaker 2: He says a lot.
54:35
Speaker 1: Usually coaches don't give you much. He almost says too much, which,
54:41
Speaker 1: you know, like as someone in the media, I love it,
54:42
Speaker 1: but you'll ask him a question and he'll, he'll touch
54:46
Speaker 1: on the topic plus 10 more topics as he answers
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Speaker 1: a question. I, it's very rare to see a coach
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Speaker 1: do that, but, but he does. So that was honestly
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Speaker 1: the biggest, that was honestly the biggest thing that I
55:00
Speaker 1: noticed is, about his press conference was how much he talks.
55:05
Speaker 1: You know, they'll ask one question and one of his answers,
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Speaker 1: I felt like it was like five minutes long. Usually
55:09
Speaker 1: coaches is quick, answers your question on to the next.
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Speaker 1: He'll answer your question. Plus provide 10 more things for you,
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Speaker 1: which again, in the media, I love it, but that's
55:21
Speaker 1: what I take from Brian's heartlines pressers. I thought he
55:23
Speaker 1: was pissed. He was, he was not happy. So I,
55:27
Speaker 1: I think that's a misread there by you, but, That's
55:31
Speaker 1: just my thoughts. The mailbag, again, I can't get through
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Speaker 1: all of them. We'll go through. Maybe we'll do a
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Speaker 1: pod before the preview show. There's a lot more.
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Speaker 2: We'll preview.
55:44
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Tuesday we'll preview the UTSA game. But the
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Speaker 1: mailbag was brought to you by TheBullsPen.com. Oh, man.
55:54
Speaker 2: Boy, oh, boy, oh, boy.
55:55
Speaker 1: So this team sits 4-1, and we're going to find
55:57
Speaker 1: out how good of a coach Hartline is this week
55:59
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56:55
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57:04
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57:06
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57:16
Speaker 1: for all of the information on this show. I'm usually
57:20
Speaker 1: tweeting out when the next episode will be. I would
57:23
Speaker 1: expect the preview show to be on Tuesday. I'm going
57:28
Speaker 1: to have to get it out on Tuesday because if
57:29
Speaker 1: I do it Wednesday, it really doesn't give you a
57:30
Speaker 1: lot of time. So Tuesday night, probably have that out
57:33
Speaker 1: for you is the plan as of now at the
57:37
Speaker 1: very latest Wednesday morning. But that is going to do
57:40
Speaker 1: it for this. Again, guys, I'm not... I'm not defending
57:46
Speaker 1: any certain coaches, I promise. I'm just not calling for
57:48
Speaker 1: any certain jobs yet. When I feel the need to
57:52
Speaker 1: call somebody's job on the line and put it on
57:53
Speaker 1: the line, I promise you I will. But this coaching
57:57
Speaker 1: staff and these players got to look at themselves and
57:59
Speaker 1: make some changes.
58:01
Speaker 2: This is on everybody.
58:03
Speaker 1: And that's why I think I'm not going towards just, like, look,
58:07
Speaker 1: if you listen to me talk about the Bucs, I
58:09
Speaker 1: think Todd Bowles probably, actually not probably, Todd Bowles deserves
58:12
Speaker 1: to lose his job. And I've talked about that on
58:13
Speaker 1: my radio show. Because I'm at that point. But I'm
58:17
Speaker 1: not there with these coaches yet. But if things continue,
58:23
Speaker 1: then my opinion and my take will change. But I
58:27
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58:31
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