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Speaker 1: Kids.
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Speaker 2: He's the report.
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Speaker 3: Well, good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm
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Speaker 3: James Macpherson filling in for Andrew Bolt.
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Speaker 4: Coming up this evening.
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Speaker 3: Hamas offered to return Jewish hostages, but only if Israel
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Speaker 3: releases those who committed the October seven atrocities.
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Speaker 4: Joel Burnie joins me shortly.
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Speaker 3: Liberal MPs continue to blame Andrew Hasty for their problems
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Speaker 3: as Parliament returns. I'll talk to one of Hasty's key supporters.
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Speaker 3: There's calls for ISIS brides now back on Australian soil,
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Speaker 3: to be investigated. I'll have more on that with my panel.
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Speaker 3: Will Kingston and Danika Di Giorgio. Sean Spice will joined
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Speaker 3: me to talk about the latest news in the US,
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Speaker 3: including the government shutdown now entering its second week, what
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Speaker 3: does that mean for Donald Trump? And Later tonight, I'm
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Speaker 3: delighted to say I'll be talking to Andrew Andrew Bolt himself.
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Speaker 3: I know you want to hear how he's doing and
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Speaker 3: what he's thinking on the big issue, So stick around.
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Speaker 3: Andrew will be joining us shortly. But first, today marks
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Speaker 3: two years since the horrific events of October seven, when
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Speaker 3: Hamas's terraces swarmed like a biblical plague of locusts into Israel,
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Speaker 3: slaughtering twelve hundred people, including women and children. As if
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Speaker 3: it couldn't have been worse, they captured two hundred and
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Speaker 3: fifty four Israelis, including babies, and stole them back into Gaza,
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Speaker 3: where they were hidden in tunnels, sexually abused and tormented.
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Speaker 3: Those who made it out alive did so only after
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Speaker 3: Hamas subjected them to ridiculous pantomimes on a stage where
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Speaker 3: Ghazans leered at their emaciated bodies. Many never made at home,
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Speaker 3: and even now their corpses are being held by Hamas,
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Speaker 3: traded as pokerchips by people who think rape and murder
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Speaker 3: is a form of diplomacy. There are believed to be
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Speaker 3: about twenty Israeli civilians still being held alive in Gaza,
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Speaker 3: seven hundred and thirty one days after being stolen from
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Speaker 3: their homes as trophies. Their chances of ever seeing loved
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Speaker 3: ones again surely grows dimmer by the day as Hamas
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Speaker 3: drag out peace negotiations by making ridiculous demands, and the world, well,
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Speaker 3: the world was horrified briefly for five minutes, then it
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Speaker 3: got bored and went back to pretending both sides were
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Speaker 3: the same, apart from Israel, which was worse. Even here
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Speaker 3: in Sydney, while most of us were still reeling from
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Speaker 3: the horror of what had taken place, we had people
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Speaker 3: out on the streets celebrating.
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Speaker 4: You'll remember this guy, I'm.
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Speaker 1: Smiling and unhappy.
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Speaker 4: I'm in Zaydan.
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Speaker 5: That's a day of courage.
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Speaker 3: And what can only be described as a mob defaced
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Speaker 3: our beloved opera house by marching on it with chance
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Speaker 3: of gas the Jews or where are the Jews, depending
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Speaker 3: on who you believe. Whatever they said, everyone knows it
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Speaker 3: was spicable and it was done with intent to cause fear.
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Speaker 3: That night, you remember, the opera house was to have
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Speaker 3: been lit up in the Israeli colors as a show
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Speaker 3: of solidarity with Australian Jews who lost family and friends
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Speaker 3: in the Hamas attack. But Jewish families were told to
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Speaker 3: stay home and to avoid circular key. Our opera house
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Speaker 3: wasn't safe for Jews. Nothing says solidarity quite like telling
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Speaker 3: the victims to hide indoors. So you have to ask
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Speaker 3: two years later, what's changed. Well, things have gotten worse,
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Speaker 3: a lot worse. We woke up on this the second
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Speaker 3: anniversary of the October seven attacks, to find a billboard
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Speaker 3: in Melbourne bearing the slogan glory to harmas that there
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Speaker 3: are people in Melbourne who sympathize with an Islamic terrorist
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Speaker 3: organization that burns babies, rapes women and takes civilians hostage
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Speaker 3: is shilling. But worse, we have people in this country
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Speaker 3: who glory in their deeds. There was even worse to come,
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Speaker 3: which seems to be a reoccurring theme in Melbourne. I
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Speaker 3: must say, whatever happens, you can be sure they'll be worse.
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Speaker 3: A wall in Fitzroy was painted to read October seven,
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Speaker 3: do it again and Glory to the martyrs. Can I
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Speaker 3: just say, as an aside, in the Christian faith, a
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Speaker 3: martyr is someone who peacefully lays down their life, not
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Speaker 3: someone who violently takes the life of another. That we
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Speaker 3: have people in this country who glory in murder with
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Speaker 3: religious fervor is frightening. That we have politicians who know
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Speaker 3: this and yet bring thousands of refugees from the most
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Speaker 3: radicalized region on Earth, where that very culture is taught
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Speaker 3: to school children beggars belief that those same politicians also
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Speaker 3: sit idly by as people who went to Syria to
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Speaker 3: supper that violent, bloodthirsty ideology now return to Australia.
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Speaker 4: Well, that's just plain reckless.
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Speaker 3: So spare me when they assure us that public safety
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Speaker 3: is top of mind. We all know that's absolute rubbish
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Speaker 3: and it has been for two years. Nevertheless, Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albanesi today said the Melbourne graffiti was abhorrent. I
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Speaker 3: would say, recognizing a Palestinian state while large swathes of
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Speaker 3: it are governed by a terrorist organization holding Jewish hostages,
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Speaker 3: that's abhorrent. But you know that's just me. I guess
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Speaker 3: you take what you can from Anthony Albanzi here he.
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Speaker 6: Is earlier the Australian governments stands with Jewish people around
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Speaker 6: the world who feel the cold shadow of history's darkest
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Speaker 6: chapter in any act of anti Semitism. We will always
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Speaker 6: stand against any Semitism, as should everyone. We must break
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Speaker 6: this cycle of violence and build something better. Australia has
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Speaker 6: consistently been part of the international pressure for a ceasefire
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Speaker 6: in Gaza, the return of the hostages, for aid to fly,
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Speaker 6: and a two state solution.
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Speaker 4: To which we all reply.
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Speaker 3: Really, I mean, he thinks the people who created that billboard,
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Speaker 3: who painted that wall, should face the full force of
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Speaker 3: the law. Honestly, you've got more chance of facing the
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Speaker 3: full force of the law if you miss gender someone
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Speaker 3: than if you show support for an Islamic terrorist organization.
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Speaker 3: And supporters of Hamas know it, which is why they're emboldened. Hey,
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Speaker 3: these are people who quite literally forced the PM out
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Speaker 3: of his electric office. When you know you can do that,
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Speaker 3: do you think anything feels beyond you? Last night pro
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Speaker 3: Palestine demonstrators chose to mark the eve of the October
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Speaker 3: seven anniversary by chanting their murderous rhymes on the steps
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Speaker 3: of Sydney Town Hall, with zero fear that they be
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Speaker 3: held to account.
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Speaker 5: Of course, from the river the Sea, River Palasilly forever solution,
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Speaker 5: any mother.
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Speaker 3: Revolution, not chanting for peace, not even chanting.
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Speaker 4: For elbows, two state solution.
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Speaker 3: They were quite literally chanting for the erasure of Israel
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Speaker 3: from the river to the sea and for violent uprising as.
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Speaker 4: The only solution. And we have to put up.
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Speaker 3: With this in our beautiful country, because can someone please
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Speaker 3: explain to me why we have to put up with this?
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi, Tony Burke, Penny Wong, anything it's pointless asking them.
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Speaker 3: This is a government so concerned about the rise of
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Speaker 3: due hatred that they appointed a special envoy to combat
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Speaker 3: anti Semitism and then said they couldn't act on any
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Speaker 3: of her recommendations until they'd also received the report from
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Speaker 3: their envoy on Islamophobia. Optics mattered far more than action.
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Speaker 3: Months later, we're still waiting for something, anything, to be
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Speaker 3: done in response to the anti Semitism report. So you'll
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Speaker 3: forgive me for being more than a tad skeptical of
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Speaker 3: the PM's sincerity when he demands the people who glory
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Speaker 3: Toamas be found as a matter of urgency.
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Speaker 4: Victorian Premier Justin to Allen had this.
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Speaker 7: To say on any given day, this hateful behavior is wrong.
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Speaker 7: It's disgraceful, but particularly today when I say to the
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Speaker 7: Jewish community, we stand with you, we support you, because
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Speaker 7: this behavior does not represent peace, it does not represent
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Speaker 7: our great multicultural society. It is wrong, it is hateful.
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Speaker 7: I condemn it in the strongest possible terms.
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Speaker 1: Uh huh.
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Speaker 3: I Sinta Allen meant what she said about standing with
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Speaker 3: and coporting the Jewish community. She would have been down
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Speaker 3: at Brunswick Street with a brush painting over the hamas
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Speaker 3: propaganda that that would have meant something. But tell me
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Speaker 3: how what she said today would be any different to
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Speaker 3: what she would say if instead of graffiti against Jews,
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Speaker 3: it was a deadly terror attack against Jews. I say
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Speaker 3: to the Jewish community, we stand with you, we support you,
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Speaker 3: blah blah blah. I'm quite sure that after two years
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Speaker 3: of hate marchers through the Melbourne CBD, the Jewish community
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Speaker 3: feels very supported. And then, did you note how to
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Speaker 3: Siner Allen's instinct after expressing support for the Jewish community
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Speaker 3: was to defend our great multicultural society.
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Speaker 4: Well, sorry to Siner, but.
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Speaker 3: The evidence thus far suggests it's not all that great.
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Speaker 3: I'm old enough to remember when we didn't need bollards
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Speaker 3: to stop cars being driven at pedestrians, when we didn't
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Speaker 3: need machete bins for gang members to hand in their weapons,
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Speaker 3: and we didn't need Jews to hide their identities when
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Speaker 3: shopping in the CBD. At the weekend tonight, there'll be
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Speaker 3: people out on the streets of our country demonstrating in
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Speaker 3: support of mass controlled gaza. Here's how this evening's pro
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Speaker 3: Palestine demonstration in Sydney has been promoted.
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Speaker 4: It's been promoted as.
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Speaker 3: Glory to our martyrs, the same as was written in
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Speaker 3: graffiti on the walls of the Melbourne buildings. The pro
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Speaker 3: Palestinian mob aren't even pretending anymore. At the weekend, barring
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Speaker 3: some kind of miracle, there'll be thousands of people using
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Speaker 3: the Opera House as a backdrop for their anti Israel theater.
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Speaker 4: And all of this, all of this was avoidable.
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Speaker 3: Authorities have tolerated this rubbish for two years and now
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Speaker 3: they're reduced to asking politely if the rabbel rousers would
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Speaker 3: please play nice. I couldn't believe Industry Minister Tim Ayres
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Speaker 3: on Sunday almost pleading with protesters to do the right thing.
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Speaker 4: That's what we've been reduced.
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Speaker 8: To, and we want to see them do it in
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Speaker 8: a respectful way that isn't about bringing comp inflict here
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Speaker 8: to Australia. I think that there's many people who would
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Speaker 8: think that that it was insensitive timing. But people have
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Speaker 8: got a right to protest.
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Speaker 3: Where on earth do we get these people and how
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Speaker 3: on earth do they make it to Canra, much less
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Speaker 3: in the federal cabinet. Tim Ayirs hopes for a respectful
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Speaker 3: pro Palestinian March on the anniversary of the.
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Speaker 4: October seven attacks.
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Speaker 3: By definition, it's disrespectful and Tim Ayres hopes this weekend's
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Speaker 3: pro Palestine march isn't about bringing conflict here to Australia. Honestly,
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Speaker 3: I have no words. I don't know Tim Airs. I'm
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Speaker 3: sure he's a lovely man. I'm sure the pro Palestinian
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Speaker 3: demonstrators also think he's lovely. Former Federal Treasurer Josh Fredenberg
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Speaker 3: spoke for all Australians when he said today, on this day,
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Speaker 3: the second anniversary of Hamas's horrific October seven attack, we
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Speaker 3: have Australians openly supporting terrorism on Melbourne's streets. These extremists
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Speaker 3: do it because they're allowed to get away with it.
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister and Premier do something now. Whatever you think
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Speaker 3: you've done, it's not enough and it's clearly not working.
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Speaker 3: Stop the violence, stop the hate, save our state and
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Speaker 3: save our country from this descent into darkness. We Victorians
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Speaker 3: and Australians deserve better. Well, He's right, we certainly do.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Joel Bernie from the Australian Jewish
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Speaker 3: Affairs Council. Joel, thanks for coming on the program. I
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Speaker 3: have to say I was shocked when I woke up
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Speaker 3: this morning and saw support for Harmas blazoned across buildings
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Speaker 3: in Melbourne. In Fitzroy, someone had gone to a lot
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Speaker 3: of effort to paint the words glory to Harmas and
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Speaker 3: an outline of the Palestinian flag across a billboard atop
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Speaker 3: a building on a busy intersection, and then elsewhere jew
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Speaker 3: haters have painted signs saying October seven, do it again,
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Speaker 3: glory to the martyrs and Free Palestine. I cannot imagine
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Speaker 3: how members of the Australian Jewish community felt seeing that
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Speaker 3: at any time, but especially on a daylight today.
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Speaker 9: Well thanks for having me, James, and look, I get
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Speaker 9: the shock. But the one thing that the Jewish community
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Speaker 9: in Australia is not today is shocked by these type
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Speaker 9: of events. For the past two years, since the horrific
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Speaker 9: violent massacre on October seven, twenty twenty three, not just
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Speaker 9: Israelis have been under siege, but unfortunately Jews in Australia
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Speaker 9: have been under siege as well. Let's let's make it
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Speaker 9: abundantly clear. Hamas is a listed terror organization. There is
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Speaker 9: no way else to describe the organization. They are terrorists.
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Speaker 9: Any support for a terrorist listed terror organization in Australia
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Speaker 9: is illegal and so the actions that you saw this
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Speaker 9: morning with the billboard in Fitzroy is in my assessment,
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Speaker 9: a clear illegal act. This goes beyond the rights of
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Speaker 9: people to assemble and protest. This goes beyond the right
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Speaker 9: it's a free speech that we have in this country.
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Speaker 9: This is an unlawful act that needs to be aggressively
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Speaker 9: tackled by government and the agencies that they control. But unfortunately,
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Speaker 9: and due to the events we have witnessed over the
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Speaker 9: past two years in this fantastic and great country of Owls,
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Speaker 9: unfortunately brings a little bit of international shame to Australia. Now,
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Speaker 9: the majority of Australians are great people, there's no doubt
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Speaker 9: about it. And we as Jews in Australia have had
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Speaker 9: a proud history here, going all the way back to
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Speaker 9: European settlement here in seventeen eighty eight, where Jews were
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Speaker 9: in the first Fleet. We have had a very fruitful,
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Speaker 9: prosperous and long history and proud history of contribution to
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Speaker 9: this country in all sections. And it's so deeply saddening
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Speaker 9: that our Australian brothers and sisters think it's okay to
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Speaker 9: go out in the streets on a day like this,
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Speaker 9: two year anniversaries since the worst massacre of Jews since
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Speaker 9: the Holocaust, and think it's okay to go to our
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Speaker 9: beloved streets and write these hateful messages. It's deeply distressing.
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Speaker 9: It's disgusting, but unfortunately it's not shocking. It's more than
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Speaker 9: just surprising.
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Speaker 3: I should say, yeah, well, it's more than just academic
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Speaker 3: for people too, isn't it, Because I think sometimes people
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Speaker 3: fail to understand the Jewish community is so small that
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Speaker 3: here in Australia, you speak to someone who is from
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Speaker 3: the community and they either directly know someone who was
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Speaker 3: affected by the October seven massacre or they know someone
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Speaker 3: who knows someone who was affected by the massacres. So
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Speaker 3: it's more than just support for a terrorist organization. This
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Speaker 3: really is just sticking it right in the face of
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Speaker 3: Australian Jews who would be grieving and mourning today.
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Speaker 9: And this is exactly what we have concerns about with
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Speaker 9: the motivation of these protest movements that have hijacked the
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Speaker 9: streets of Melbourne and Sydney and other cities. In Australia
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Speaker 9: since the events of October seven. The location of the
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Speaker 9: proposed Sydney protest and the timing of it is specifically
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Speaker 9: designed to rub it in the face of Australian Jews.
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Speaker 9: The Opera House is a clear note and reflection back
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Speaker 9: to the events of October nine, twenty twenty three, a
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Speaker 9: mere forty eight hours after the invasion of Kamas into
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Speaker 9: Southern Israel, we had burning of Israeli flags, anti Semitic
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Speaker 9: and anti Jewish chance by the mob. So these guys
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Speaker 9: have decided that the day that they want to mark
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Speaker 9: and that they want to celebrate, and the location of
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Speaker 9: where they want to celebrate, has to be at the
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Speaker 9: highest impact, the highest negative emotional impact to a very
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Speaker 9: small Australian Jewish community. Now, this obviously sends shivers down
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Speaker 9: the spine of a very strong and resilient but very
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Speaker 9: vulnerable Jewish community, but also send concerning shivers down the
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Speaker 9: spine of all the aliens to think that this type
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Speaker 9: of behavior is happening on our streets. This is not
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Speaker 9: the Australia that I grew up in, James, This is
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Speaker 9: not the Australia that I want my kids to grow
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Speaker 9: up in either this is a despicable actions that is
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Speaker 9: designed to have the maximum negative impact on another group
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Speaker 9: of Australians. But their motivation for that is abundantly clear
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Speaker 9: by the timing of their suggested protest and also the
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Speaker 9: location of it too. And we, unfortunately in the Jewish community,
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Speaker 9: have had a gut fall, and I suspect that the
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Speaker 9: majority of Australians have had a gutfall as well.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 3: I'm totally with you on that one. Peace negotiations are
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Speaker 3: happening right now in Katar. It's been reported that Hamas
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Speaker 3: I can't believe this. They're demanding the release of terrorists
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Speaker 3: who took part in the October seven attacks in exchange
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Speaker 3: for Israeli hostages. How likely is it that Netanyahu would
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Speaker 3: agree to such a deal. I'm not sure that he could,
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Speaker 3: but would he.
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Speaker 9: It's a very good question, and I think that the
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Speaker 9: answer is critically important to clarify and distinguish premise of
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Speaker 9: Netanyahu's position on this. So obviously there would be huge
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Speaker 9: domestic ramification and consequences if he is to release a
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Speaker 9: certain terrorists that were involved in October seven. But that's
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Speaker 9: not the worst of the list of the prisoners. That
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Speaker 9: Kamas wants to be right, there are a number of
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Speaker 9: convicted terrorists with what we say blood on their hands,
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Speaker 9: directly responsible for the death of Israeli civilians that Kramas
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Speaker 9: wants released as well. Do I think that Netanyahu will
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Speaker 9: do it. I think that Netanyahu will go to extreme
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Speaker 9: lengths to do what the Israeli people want, and the
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Speaker 9: overwhelming majority of Israeli people want, and they want a
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Speaker 9: resolution and an end of this conflict, which will be
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Speaker 9: marked by the release of hostages, by the demilitarization of Kamas,
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Speaker 9: and the involvement of a technocratic government that will govern Gaza.
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Speaker 9: So yes, I do believe. As hard as it will
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Speaker 9: be and as difficult as it will be, not just
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Speaker 9: for Netta Nyajal but also his government coalition and also
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Speaker 9: the Israeli people to have to release these evil convicted terrorists,
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Speaker 9: I think he will do it.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 9: I just want to point out one thing. Hamas will
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Speaker 9: use delaying tactics, a number of delaying tactics in terms
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Speaker 9: of the Trump peace plan. So in terms of the hostages,
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Speaker 9: they will claim that they don't know where they all are,
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Speaker 9: so they can't release them immediately, and they need time
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Speaker 9: to find them in terms of trying to frustrate the
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Speaker 9: other elements of the process. They will try and name
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Speaker 9: people that Israel does not want to release and will
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Speaker 9: demand their release. So I think that Netajal will be
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Speaker 9: placed in a very difficult position by Hamas, which will
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Speaker 9: try to purposefully frustrate President Trump's efforts to bring this
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Speaker 9: conflict to an end. However, I think that that Netanyajo
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Speaker 9: will do the right thing. What's hard to say that
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Speaker 9: release in convicted terrorists is the right thing, but his
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Speaker 9: country needs to heal, his people need to heal, and
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Speaker 9: most importantly, those forty eight hostages need to come back
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Speaker 9: to Israel so the people of Israel can be a
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Speaker 9: whole and I think that Netajal will do what it
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Speaker 9: takes to get that done.
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Speaker 3: Indeed, job Bernie, I really appreciate you joining me tonight.
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your time, Thanks for having me,
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Speaker 3: And just a reminder, you can see a special documentary
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Speaker 3: investigating the rise of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 4: Called October eight.
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Speaker 3: It'll be broadcast right here on Sky News Australia tomorrow
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Speaker 3: at seven thirty pm Australian Eastern daylight time and six
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Speaker 3: thirty pm in Queensland.
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Speaker 4: We're going to go to a.
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Speaker 3: Break, but coming up find out why Australia's intelligence chief
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Speaker 3: believes the country is just a bit too soft, and
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Speaker 3: don't forget I'll catch up with Andrew Bolt to find
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Speaker 3: out how he's doing and to get his take on
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Speaker 3: what's happening in our country at the moment.
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Speaker 4: All of that shortly.
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Speaker 3: Well, Australia's top spy has confirmed what we've all suspected.
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Speaker 3: The world is brutal and we are just way too polite,
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Speaker 3: or maybe we're being led by fools. Office of National
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Speaker 3: Intelligence Director General Andrew Sheier has warned at China we're
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Speaker 3: seeking to distract and divide us. I'd say we're doing
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Speaker 3: a pretty good job ourselves. All the while our national
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Speaker 3: security environment is being degraded, he told a conference in Perth.
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Speaker 3: The military balance is shifting against the West and deterrence
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Speaker 3: is eroding. Our adversaries are exploiting our preference for restraint
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Speaker 3: and de escalation. We must be candid about the nature
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Speaker 3: of the changes that we are experiencing. Joining me now
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Speaker 3: is Queensland LNP MP Garth, Hamilton Garth, thanks for coming
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Speaker 3: on the program. I don't understand how it is that
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Speaker 3: we have our top national security official issuing warnings like these,
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Speaker 3: and yet our government seems incredibly casual both about our
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Speaker 3: relationship with China and about national defense.
22:04
Speaker 10: It is very concerning, and i'd throw into that as
22:06
Speaker 10: well the degrading nature of our relationship with the US.
22:11
Speaker 10: At the same time, I'm very concerned about this being
22:14
Speaker 10: overrom the UN. One thing that's been clear to me
22:16
Speaker 10: in watching things there is just how active China is
22:20
Speaker 10: in the process. I mean, they use the UN as
22:24
Speaker 10: an opportunity to gain every little advantage that possibly can
22:27
Speaker 10: in every minute little committee that's going on over there.
22:31
Speaker 10: They're really into that and they're exerting that pressure. Look,
22:36
Speaker 10: I think this is a very important note that's being
22:39
Speaker 10: raised for Australians.
22:40
Speaker 2: We should be listening very clearly.
22:42
Speaker 3: I was interested to read that Andrew Shier specifically mentioned
22:45
Speaker 3: as an example of the way that Beijing is trying
22:50
Speaker 3: to intimidate other countries, particularly those of US in the Pacific.
22:54
Speaker 3: He mentioned the recent military parade in Beijing as part
22:58
Speaker 3: of a deliberate ploy by the Seas to intimidate. That's
23:01
Speaker 3: the parade that, of course Dan Andrews famously attended, something
23:05
Speaker 3: he's good mate Anthony Albanez. He failed to publicly chastise
23:09
Speaker 3: him for.
23:12
Speaker 1: Yeah.
23:12
Speaker 2: Look, this was a really poor show. It shows who
23:15
Speaker 2: Dan Andrews truly.
23:17
Speaker 10: Is the big point we need to take away from this.
23:20
Speaker 10: This is the time when we need to be standing
23:22
Speaker 10: side by side with our us ally and you know,
23:26
Speaker 10: we may have differences of opinion, they may make decisions
23:29
Speaker 10: that aren't always the ones that we would make.
23:32
Speaker 2: But they're our friends and when.
23:33
Speaker 10: Things and I hope they never do when things do
23:36
Speaker 10: go bad, they're the ones who are going to be
23:38
Speaker 10: side by side with us on the field of battle,
23:40
Speaker 10: as we've been with them on every major battle since
23:43
Speaker 10: nineteen eighteen. They're are friends. We need to be very
23:46
Speaker 10: very clearly now who we're siding with. We do a
23:50
Speaker 10: lot of trade with China, but as I always remind
23:52
Speaker 10: people during the Cold War, we continue to sell all
23:54
Speaker 10: to Russia and we've got to keep doing that and
23:58
Speaker 10: maintain that attitude. We've got allies, we've got trading partners.
24:01
Speaker 2: We've got to know the difference.
24:03
Speaker 3: I want to get to our relationship with America in
24:05
Speaker 3: just a moment. But the other thing, Andrew Sheer, our
24:08
Speaker 3: top spy, raised was our economic ties to China, which
24:12
Speaker 3: then he said, provide them with leverage. That's his word
24:15
Speaker 3: against us. I thought that after COVID we'd learned a
24:19
Speaker 3: bit of a lesson that we needed to diversify our trade.
24:22
Speaker 3: But it seems lately the labor government, both at a
24:26
Speaker 3: federal level and take the Victorian state government for example,
24:30
Speaker 3: have been doing nothing but making us more reliant upon China.
24:35
Speaker 10: Look and you will see an article we've got the
24:37
Speaker 10: front page of the Oars today exactly on this issue,
24:41
Speaker 10: on the point of how much we're paying in subsidies
24:44
Speaker 10: for evs that are made in China, and we're on track.
24:47
Speaker 10: This is unbelievable to pay more subsidies for foreign people
24:50
Speaker 10: to make cars than we ever used to pay for
24:53
Speaker 10: Australians to make cars. Isn't that absolutely nuts? We're funding
24:58
Speaker 10: the growth of other nations and it was same time
25:00
Speaker 10: we're reducing our manufacturing capabilities, which would come in very
25:04
Speaker 10: handy should we ever find ourselves in a position where
25:07
Speaker 10: we need to build things, I don't know, complicated things
25:10
Speaker 10: like you might need in the time of war.
25:13
Speaker 2: So you know, this is what we're at. This is
25:15
Speaker 2: what we've got to think about.
25:16
Speaker 3: Not to mention the security risks with things like EVS
25:21
Speaker 3: and other products that we are bringing into our nation
25:25
Speaker 3: from China that essentially are computers. You're in the US
25:29
Speaker 3: at the moment, so let me ask you about our
25:31
Speaker 3: relationship with America.
25:34
Speaker 4: What are you hearing on two subjects.
25:35
Speaker 3: Firstly on the Orchest deal, what's your sense of the
25:39
Speaker 3: level of support there? And second on Anti Albanese's upcoming
25:43
Speaker 3: visit to the Oval Office. What are you being told
25:45
Speaker 3: about those two particular issues.
25:48
Speaker 10: Well, very clearly there is interesting UCUS, and I think
25:52
Speaker 10: both sides of the House largely feels a positivity towards it.
25:56
Speaker 10: The enemy of Orcust was apathy because a lot of
25:58
Speaker 10: Americans simply didn't understand that. The challenge we have is
26:02
Speaker 10: to explain to the Americans what the benefit is for them,
26:04
Speaker 10: because clearly we're in a position now with the current
26:07
Speaker 10: US administration it's a little bit more transactional, and we
26:09
Speaker 10: need to lay out clearly what the benefits to the
26:11
Speaker 10: US is, which is of course.
26:13
Speaker 2: Very simple to lay out.
26:14
Speaker 10: That's US carrying some of the load here in the Pacific,
26:17
Speaker 10: and that's the important thing we need to express them.
26:19
Speaker 10: I think that support will grow. I think they will
26:21
Speaker 10: see it as a good thing in time. With regard
26:24
Speaker 10: to the visit with mister aub and Easy, I've got
26:27
Speaker 10: to tell you, and this really hurts an Australian. We
26:30
Speaker 10: don't rank to describe us as a middling power is
26:34
Speaker 10: I think a little bit optimistic. If mister Trump wanted
26:38
Speaker 10: to meet with mister Albinisi, he would have done so
26:40
Speaker 10: at the UN He would have taken that opportunity. Previously.
26:44
Speaker 2: We've fallen well down the ladder when it.
26:47
Speaker 10: Comes to the relationship with or with the US, and
26:50
Speaker 10: no wonder you know when we stand opposite to them
26:53
Speaker 10: on a big important issues. The most important one of
26:56
Speaker 10: recent times, of course, is what's going on in the
26:58
Speaker 10: Middle East.
26:58
Speaker 2: But the same thing on zero.
27:01
Speaker 10: We're going in a different pathway and we're going to
27:03
Speaker 10: continue to fall down that ladder the longer we go
27:06
Speaker 10: in a different direction to the US.
27:08
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of falling down the ladder, can I talk
27:10
Speaker 3: to you about the coalition of which you're a part.
27:13
Speaker 3: Sorry to introduce it like that, but first term Liberal
27:16
Speaker 3: MP Mary Elderd has used this morning's Liberal Party room
27:20
Speaker 3: meeting in Canberra to give your mate Andrew Hasty a
27:23
Speaker 3: bit of a clip. She told colleagues she didn't agree
27:26
Speaker 3: with the way Hasty had handled his resignation, and according
27:29
Speaker 3: to MP's in the room who spoke to the Sydney
27:31
Speaker 3: Morning Herald, she warned the Federal Liberal Party will turn
27:34
Speaker 3: into a Victorian style basket case if it continues to
27:38
Speaker 3: navel gaze. Now it's reported Andrew ha Hasty was in
27:41
Speaker 3: the room but didn't address MPs.
27:44
Speaker 4: So I guess Garth.
27:45
Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you, do you agree that Andrew
27:47
Speaker 3: Hasty is the problem?
27:50
Speaker 2: Goodness me? No, no, what he is my mate, and
27:52
Speaker 2: I do want to say this, good on Mary.
27:54
Speaker 10: She's put her name to her complaints, good honor. We
27:57
Speaker 10: can serve as. We don't need to save space. We're
27:59
Speaker 10: happy to have the common testify ideas openly. But I
28:02
Speaker 10: would point out that Mary's complaints make her the first
28:04
Speaker 10: moderate to put their name to their complaints about Andrew.
28:08
Speaker 10: What we've seen is this continuous slander against him, you know, anonymous,
28:13
Speaker 10: reckless sort of behavior, trying to drag Andrew down at
28:17
Speaker 10: every chance they can. And it's been a small group
28:23
Speaker 10: of the parliamentary team who decided to do that.
28:25
Speaker 2: Mary's not one of them.
28:26
Speaker 1: Good on it.
28:26
Speaker 10: That's fantastic. I understand I've had to chat with Andrew
28:30
Speaker 10: stub sequent to that. I've understand they've had a chat
28:32
Speaker 10: and they put the issue behind them and they're moving
28:34
Speaker 10: on together. That's what we do when we put our
28:37
Speaker 10: names to our issues.
28:39
Speaker 3: Yep, well, said Garth Amilton. Safe travels on your way
28:42
Speaker 3: back to Australia and thanks for making the time to
28:44
Speaker 3: catch up with me tonight.
28:47
Speaker 2: Thanks mate.
28:50
Speaker 11: Well.
28:50
Speaker 3: Israel has deported Greta Tunberg along with more than one
28:53
Speaker 3: hundred activists who were attained on a Gaza aid flotilla,
28:57
Speaker 3: though the only thing they seemed to be aiding was
28:59
Speaker 3: their own social media engagement. Joining me my panelist Will
29:03
Speaker 3: Kingston from the UK, and Anika de Giorgio, one of
29:07
Speaker 3: my co hosts here at Sky. Great to have both
29:09
Speaker 3: of you with me. Let's go to you Will first.
29:13
Speaker 3: This whole exercise with Greta's flotilla was really just an
29:17
Speaker 3: exercise in narcissism and boosting a social media following, Wasn't it?
29:22
Speaker 12: Wasn't it just I saw a video from an intrep
29:25
Speaker 12: at Israeli journalist to manage to board one of these
29:27
Speaker 12: boats that these ingrades were on and what she found
29:33
Speaker 12: was use condom wrappers and a cocktail machine. She certainly
29:37
Speaker 12: didn't find any aid that they were supposedly meant to
29:40
Speaker 12: be bringing into Gaza. This had nothing to do really
29:43
Speaker 12: with trying to break the siege or whatever nonsense they
29:46
Speaker 12: were saying. It was, to your point, all about their
29:48
Speaker 12: own self gratification. And I'm glad that I think most
29:52
Speaker 12: people have seen through it.
29:54
Speaker 3: And Denika Greta seems to have decided that, you know,
29:57
Speaker 3: climate activist is not quite a popular as gars a savior.
30:02
Speaker 3: Well really, I mean the thing that gauls me right
30:05
Speaker 3: is the West pretty much created Greta Tuttenberg. I mean,
30:09
Speaker 3: the United Nations gave her an incredible platform and we've
30:12
Speaker 3: been stuck with her ever since.
30:13
Speaker 13: Yeah, well the West created a monster. That's the exact problem. Look,
30:16
Speaker 13: you know it's been a flop, hasn't it?
30:18
Speaker 4: This again?
30:18
Speaker 13: This flotilla flotilla flop number two, And it couldn't have
30:22
Speaker 13: happened to a better person, the number one irritant. I've
30:24
Speaker 13: got to say, I actually think that Israel has done
30:26
Speaker 13: us a fair income favor here, James in getting rid
30:29
Speaker 13: of it.
30:29
Speaker 9: But it's been a.
30:30
Speaker 1: Disaster from the start.
30:31
Speaker 13: I mean, they had those drones attack where they had
30:33
Speaker 13: the Abba music playing all the time, which I thought
30:36
Speaker 13: was absolutely hilarious. And then the other day they claimed
30:39
Speaker 13: one of the activists claimed that Greta was forced to
30:42
Speaker 13: kiss the Israeli flag and you know that she was
30:45
Speaker 13: pushed around or been. I mean, it was a whole
30:47
Speaker 13: it was just a whole load of nonsense. Israel's done
30:50
Speaker 13: us a favor, Mary band, Greta and a merry band
30:53
Speaker 13: of followers, see you later.
30:54
Speaker 3: Another example of Israel doing the world's work literally exactly
30:58
Speaker 3: all right. Government minister and officials have point blank refused
31:02
Speaker 3: to provide any details about the ISIS bride to return
31:04
Speaker 3: to Australia last week. Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet
31:08
Speaker 3: officials just repeatedly refused to answer questions about what they
31:11
Speaker 3: knew regarding how many ISIS brides had returned, where they'd
31:15
Speaker 3: been located, will even if indeed they had actually arrived.
31:18
Speaker 3: They just kept on saying privacy reasons. And it didn't
31:21
Speaker 3: get better. When Penny Wong was asked, she just said
31:24
Speaker 3: she would take the questions on notice. Will do Australians
31:28
Speaker 3: deserve to know what's going on with these people.
31:32
Speaker 2: Australians deserve to be safe, James.
31:34
Speaker 12: This is demonstrative of a broader mindset that has infected
31:38
Speaker 12: both Australia and the UK, and that is that the
31:40
Speaker 12: rights of evil people have been prioritized over the safety
31:45
Speaker 12: of good people, of Australian citizens, of British citizens. In
31:48
Speaker 12: this instance due to either the misapplication of human rights law,
31:52
Speaker 12: or identity politics, or historic guils, you name it.
31:57
Speaker 2: The rights of evil people have made no mistake.
32:00
Speaker 12: If you go off and you join a terrorist organization,
32:02
Speaker 12: you are an evil person. Have now put Australian people
32:06
Speaker 12: at risk. They should not have been allowed back in
32:08
Speaker 12: the country. I don't care if they had an Australian passport.
32:10
Speaker 12: When they went overseas they announced their Australian passport. They
32:14
Speaker 12: should have been left in the caves of Syria. And
32:16
Speaker 12: if they did come back then they should have been
32:18
Speaker 12: put in jail and kept in jail for the rest
32:20
Speaker 12: of their lives for treason.
32:22
Speaker 2: It is as simple as that.
32:24
Speaker 3: Well, there should certainly be an investigation, Nika. Why do
32:27
Speaker 3: you think the government is being so secretive on this, Well.
32:30
Speaker 4: I think it goes to Will's point.
32:31
Speaker 13: Really, I mean, we've got a real problem in this
32:33
Speaker 13: country right now, where you know, we have brought some
32:36
Speaker 13: people in whose values are completely incompatible with ours. The
32:39
Speaker 13: government's under a lot of pressure, but in the end,
32:42
Speaker 13: these Isis brides. They've gone over to Syria on this
32:45
Speaker 13: g Hardy romance. Clearly it hasn't gone as well as
32:47
Speaker 13: what hey thought. They want to come back into this country,
32:50
Speaker 13: the very country that they left, the very country whom
32:52
Speaker 13: when as soon as they stepped foot out of it,
32:54
Speaker 13: they portrayed our values, and now suddenly they want to
32:58
Speaker 13: come in the games. You know, we don't accept that.
33:01
Speaker 13: We've already got enough issues as it is with some
33:03
Speaker 13: people who certainly don't respect our values nor our culture.
33:06
Speaker 13: We don't know what sort of a threat that they pose.
33:09
Speaker 13: So no, they're not Australian, they don't belong here.
33:12
Speaker 3: Off you go, and we deserve some answers from our government. Will, Kingston,
33:16
Speaker 3: Anika to Georgio. Thanks to both of you for your time.
33:18
Speaker 3: Well coming up, President Trump is continuing to send the
33:21
Speaker 3: National Guard into American cities to crack down on crime,
33:24
Speaker 3: despite opposition from the Democrats. That's coming up, and don't
33:28
Speaker 3: forget soon. I'll catch up with Andrew Bolt.
33:30
Speaker 4: Stick around. You don't want to miss that.
33:36
Speaker 3: Donald Trump continues to send the National Guard into American
33:39
Speaker 3: cities to crack down on crime, and Democrat politicians continue
33:43
Speaker 3: to oppose him. Here's Trump talking about how the general
33:46
Speaker 3: populace in this case Chicago, just want to see crime reduced.
33:51
Speaker 14: So you have black women with maga hats on in
33:56
Speaker 14: Chicago all over the place.
33:58
Speaker 11: They want to guide to come or.
34:00
Speaker 1: They don't care who comes in.
34:02
Speaker 2: They just want to be safe, and.
34:04
Speaker 1: They really don't care.
34:05
Speaker 11: You know, there was one woman who was great today.
34:07
Speaker 1: She said, you know what, I don't care.
34:09
Speaker 8: If it's a National Guard, the Army, the Marines, the
34:12
Speaker 8: Air Force.
34:13
Speaker 3: I don't care who comes in, as long as we're safe.
34:16
Speaker 3: And that's the way most of the public feels. Joining
34:20
Speaker 3: me now is former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer. Sean,
34:23
Speaker 3: thanks for coming on the program. Help us here in
34:25
Speaker 3: Australia understand what's really going on. Trump says he just
34:29
Speaker 3: wants to make American cities safe. Democrats accuse him of
34:33
Speaker 3: exaggerating crime in order to justify using the military against
34:37
Speaker 3: his opponents.
34:38
Speaker 4: What's actually happening.
34:41
Speaker 14: There's a couple issues here, James that people have to understand.
34:44
Speaker 14: Number One, Politically speaking, the president doesn't gain a lot
34:47
Speaker 14: going into these blue cities, right. It's not like he's
34:49
Speaker 14: going he's up for reelection, and it's not like he's
34:51
Speaker 14: trying to win over the hearts and minds of cities
34:53
Speaker 14: that are largely democratic. He's doing this because he cares
34:56
Speaker 14: about the safety of all citizens. And I think that's
34:58
Speaker 14: the point in the clip that you just made, which
35:00
Speaker 14: is interesting that no one's giving him the political kind
35:03
Speaker 14: of credit. That this is not where most people spend
35:06
Speaker 14: their political capital, helping people that didn't vote for them.
35:09
Speaker 14: But the president's concerned about safeties in our major cities.
35:12
Speaker 14: And then the president has a bit of a question.
35:15
Speaker 14: He's got to show the cause for using the National Guard,
35:19
Speaker 14: because it's very interesting how our laws are constructed about
35:22
Speaker 14: using the military domestically. So what he has tried to
35:25
Speaker 14: do is to say that they're there to protect federal buildings.
35:28
Speaker 14: And that's where I think the court will ultimately come
35:31
Speaker 14: down on his side, because they're protecting federal assets. They're
35:33
Speaker 14: not doing like local law enforcements stopping people for speeding
35:37
Speaker 14: tickets or fighting on the street or things like that.
35:41
Speaker 3: So if the courts block Trump's use of the National Guard,
35:44
Speaker 3: he said today he would invoke the Insurrection Act of
35:47
Speaker 3: a Listen, Well, I do it if.
35:48
Speaker 11: It was necessary.
35:49
Speaker 4: So far it hasn't been necessary. But we have an
35:51
Speaker 4: Insurrection Act for a reason.
35:53
Speaker 1: If I had to enact it, I do that.
35:55
Speaker 8: If people were being killed and courts were holding this up,
36:00
Speaker 8: or governors or mayors were holding us up, sure I
36:03
Speaker 8: do that.
36:03
Speaker 11: I mean, I want to make sure that people aren't guilled.
36:06
Speaker 11: We have to make sure that our cities are safe.
36:09
Speaker 3: So show what does that mean and how would it
36:11
Speaker 3: work if Trump would to take it to that level.
36:15
Speaker 14: Well, it means that he would literally call them up
36:18
Speaker 14: under that clause, which is the insurrection actors from the
36:20
Speaker 14: seventeen hundreds. To be honest with you, as much as
36:24
Speaker 14: I support what President Trump is doing, I think the
36:26
Speaker 14: courts would not look favorably on that there's not an insurrection.
36:29
Speaker 14: There might be a lot of crime, but I don't
36:33
Speaker 14: think that anyone could claim that there's actually an insurrection
36:36
Speaker 14: trying to overthrow the United States government. James that being said,
36:39
Speaker 14: what is nuts about this whole thing? And the President
36:41
Speaker 14: alluded to this, and the clip that you first played
36:43
Speaker 14: is that these governors, these mayors are literally not doing
36:47
Speaker 14: what's in the best interest of their people. Regardless of
36:50
Speaker 14: how much they like or don't like President Donald Trump,
36:52
Speaker 14: they should care about the safety of their own citizens.
36:55
Speaker 14: And look, here's the dirty secret that nobody wants to
36:58
Speaker 14: talk about because they've done it. After city number one,
37:01
Speaker 14: they decriminalize things. So they passed laws saying what was
37:04
Speaker 14: used to be a crime is no longer a crime.
37:07
Speaker 14: Then two, they tell the cops don't prosecute, don't go
37:09
Speaker 14: after certain things. And so then they basically come out
37:13
Speaker 14: and say, see crime's going down. Like I live pretty
37:16
Speaker 14: close to Washington, DC. It is a much safer city
37:18
Speaker 14: than it was three or four months ago. You can
37:20
Speaker 14: walk safely down the street, not just during the day,
37:22
Speaker 14: but at night. People are going out strolling and going
37:25
Speaker 14: for runs, walking to restaurants, things like that.
37:27
Speaker 1: Chicago is a very dangerous place. And regardless of what
37:31
Speaker 1: the mayor there.
37:31
Speaker 14: Mayor Johnson or Governor Pritzker say in Illinois, the reality
37:35
Speaker 14: is that if you ask any person who actually lives
37:37
Speaker 14: in Chicago if they feel safe walking down even the
37:39
Speaker 14: tourist spots like the Magnificent Mile. They'll tell you that
37:42
Speaker 14: they feel that there's no way that they would walk
37:45
Speaker 14: those places at night.
37:46
Speaker 1: It's not safe.
37:47
Speaker 14: It doesn't matter what the statistics say or the politicians say.
37:50
Speaker 1: Anybody that lives there will tell you exactly.
37:52
Speaker 3: What's going on or well, speaking of Democrats and their
37:55
Speaker 3: penchant for crime, there's been a lot of talk about
37:58
Speaker 3: the need to tone down the political retro especially the wake
38:01
Speaker 3: of the murder of Charlie Kirk repeated assassination attempts against
38:05
Speaker 3: Donald Trump. So I would have thought everyone would agree
38:07
Speaker 3: turning it down was a good idea, but the Democrats
38:11
Speaker 3: continuing to support their nomination for Virginia Attorney General j Jones,
38:15
Speaker 3: despite the fact he recently called for his political opponent
38:19
Speaker 3: to be shot in the head.
38:23
Speaker 1: Twice.
38:23
Speaker 14: He said he wants some shot. Let's just be clear
38:26
Speaker 14: so your viewers understand this. He said, if I had
38:29
Speaker 14: two bullets and there were three people Hitler, Paul Pott,
38:33
Speaker 14: and Todd Gilbert, Todd Gilbert being the former Speaker, the
38:36
Speaker 14: Republican Speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates, I would
38:39
Speaker 14: use both on Gilbert in his head, and then I'd
38:41
Speaker 14: go after his family. That's not a one off comment.
38:44
Speaker 14: That's pretty sick and depraved. And then today there's another
38:47
Speaker 14: phone call that came out where he said that some
38:49
Speaker 14: cops would have to die before they understood what it
38:51
Speaker 14: was like.
38:54
Speaker 1: And learn their lessons.
38:55
Speaker 14: This is a guy who wants to be the top
38:57
Speaker 14: law enforcement official in the Comwealth of Virginia. I live,
39:01
Speaker 14: and it's unbelievable, not only what he said, but the measily,
39:04
Speaker 14: weasily things that they've done to sort of excuse this.
39:07
Speaker 14: Not one top Democrat has called for him to step side,
39:09
Speaker 14: not one, not a single one. And James, this comes
39:12
Speaker 14: on the heels of Democrats' silence when it comes to
39:15
Speaker 14: attacks on federal ice agents. This weekend in the city
39:18
Speaker 14: of Chicago, ice agents were literally under attack and a
39:22
Speaker 14: chief dispatcher in the Chicago Police Department refused to send
39:27
Speaker 14: backup to help them, leaving them there to struggle on
39:29
Speaker 14: their own. That's how bad this got. And not one
39:32
Speaker 14: Democrat said, hey, that's not right. These are federal employees,
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Speaker 14: these are federal agents enforcing the law, and yet silence.
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Speaker 14: These guys love to talk about both sides. When Charlie Cook,
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Speaker 14: when one of their own took out Charlie Cook, when
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Speaker 14: one of their own tried to kill Donald Trump, when
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Speaker 14: one of their own tried to kill a bunch of
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Speaker 14: Republicans softball players, when someone on the left shot the
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Speaker 14: CEO of United Healthcare point blank and cold blood on
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Speaker 14: the streets in New York. And they sit silent now
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Speaker 14: because at the end of the day, here's the dirty
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Speaker 14: little secret, James, that they don't want to tell you.
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Speaker 1: I kind of agree with it.
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Speaker 14: Most of their base believes that killing an opponent is acceptable,
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Speaker 14: that violence is acceptable, and they're not willing to take
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Speaker 14: on their own base.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds ridiculous what you've just said, but
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Speaker 3: the more you watch and the more you see, the
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Speaker 3: more you're inclined to believe what you have just said
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Speaker 3: that they actually do support this violence. I note the
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Speaker 3: irony also that Jay Jones, it's been revealed, received about
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Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars in funding from a gun control
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Speaker 3: organization when he himself is fantasizing about shooting his opponents,
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Speaker 3: So that irony is quite delicious.
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Speaker 1: By the way, By the way.
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Speaker 14: Can I just say this, James, the idea that you
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Speaker 14: fantasize it's not like I can be joking and I'd
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Speaker 14: say I'm so angry I could kill you. Right, that's
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Speaker 14: the one off. Maybe you could justify that as a joke.
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Speaker 14: The way that these texts read to your point about fantasizing,
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Speaker 14: he put a lot of thought in how he would
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Speaker 14: kill this man.
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Speaker 1: This isn't a one off deal.
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Speaker 14: He literally spent time thinking about how he'd commit the act.
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Speaker 14: This isn't a joke. It's not a one off. This
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Speaker 14: is a depraved, sick man that wants to be the
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Speaker 14: top law enforcement agent in the calmwealth of Virginia. And frankly,
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Speaker 14: it's embarrassing to see Democrats make excuses about this and
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Speaker 14: say that it was a one off.
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Speaker 1: When Jay Jones was first confronted.
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Speaker 14: With this, he literally said that this was Jason Mayoris,
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Speaker 14: who is the incumbent attorney general. His attempt at a
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Speaker 14: smear campaign.
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
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Speaker 3: All Right, before I let you go, I need to
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Speaker 3: ask about the government shut down. It's about to enter
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Speaker 3: its second week as I understand it, there's around two
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Speaker 3: million federal workers, including air traffic controllers, working without pay.
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Speaker 4: How long can this continue? Is there any sign of resolution?
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Speaker 1: So, the way I.
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Speaker 14: Say this is the Government Services Administration puts out a
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Speaker 14: schedule of when federal employees and military members get paid.
41:48
Speaker 14: They're going to miss their paycheck very soon. Meaning it's
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Speaker 14: one thing not to pay people, but ultimately to get
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Speaker 14: in their paycheck real quick, so they really wouldn't see
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Speaker 14: the difference. They're going to start seeing the difference quick now. Yes,
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Speaker 14: they will get paid back, that's just out in this country.
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Speaker 14: We've always done it. But for many people, they live
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Speaker 14: paycheck to paycheck, and this is going to be a
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Speaker 14: problem for Democrats. I think they're going to start to
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Speaker 14: feel the pain. They're going to start to hear from
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Speaker 14: their constituents that they're having.
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Speaker 1: A hard time getting by. But at the end of
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Speaker 1: the day, this is silly.
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Speaker 14: Democrats have argued over and over again for thirteen times
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Speaker 14: when they were in control that there should be a
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Speaker 14: clean cr a clean cr meaning just past current levels,
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Speaker 14: and suddenly now they've changed their tune. All that Republicans
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Speaker 14: are trying to do is to buy more time to
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Speaker 14: continue to negotiations, and Democrats have decided that they're just
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Speaker 14: going to keep the government shut.
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Speaker 1: This is on them.
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Speaker 14: There's plenty of time to negotiate on their policy issues.
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Speaker 14: When Donald Trump wanted to shut down the government eight
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Speaker 14: years ago over his border wall, they said it was ridiculous,
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Speaker 14: and then we should have a clean cr Now it's
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Speaker 14: them that are throwing a policy fight into the middle
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Speaker 14: of keeping the government open. So to answer your question,
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Speaker 14: my guess is that probably by Friday of this week
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Speaker 14: we start to see Look, we had three Democrats defect
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Speaker 14: in the Senate.
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Speaker 1: We need five more.
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Speaker 14: I think that we're going to start by the end
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Speaker 14: of this week, maybe Thursday, already starting to see one
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Speaker 14: or two, three more peel off, and then that'll start
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Speaker 14: an avalanche of the final few to get us to
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Speaker 14: a reopening.
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Speaker 3: Sean Spice are always great to catch up with you.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for your time this evening.
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Speaker 1: You bet James, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 4: Well, don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 3: After the break, I'll be joined by none other than
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Speaker 3: Andrew Bolt.
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm joined.
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Speaker 3: Now by the man I've been filling in for, Andrew Bolt. Andrew,
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Speaker 3: welcome to your program. It's great to see you.
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Speaker 11: Thank you, James. You'd be doing a fabulous job. And
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Speaker 11: I thought i'd just gradually ease back, start beaasing back
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Speaker 11: by coming on the show as a guest.
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Speaker 3: Well, I know everyone will be very eager to hear
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Speaker 3: your views on what's happening in the world. But before
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Speaker 3: we get to that, I think people really want to
43:51
Speaker 3: know how you're doing. You've had major surgery, how are
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Speaker 3: you feeling and when can we expect you back?
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Speaker 11: Look fearly, I didn't realize that if someone cut you
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Speaker 11: open and slipped off a bit of your heart, did
44:04
Speaker 11: you feel so stuffed for the next month. But if
44:08
Speaker 11: I can keep awake long enough during the day, I'll
44:10
Speaker 11: be coming back. I was hoping to come back next week,
44:12
Speaker 11: but how do of mine is set back on Monday yesterday,
44:16
Speaker 11: so I shall see what the cardiologist says. If my
44:19
Speaker 11: wife is right, I might have to wait another week.
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Speaker 3: Well, everyone here at Sky and I know all of
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Speaker 3: our viewers are certainly thinking of you, wishing you a
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Speaker 3: very speedy recovery and looking forward to you being back
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Speaker 3: in the chair. I want to get your thoughts on
44:35
Speaker 3: this the second anniversary of the October seven attacks, and
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Speaker 3: I guess what's transpired in our country since then?
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Speaker 4: What we're talking about.
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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at some vision that's just come
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Speaker 3: through from the Pro Palestine rally this evening in Sydney.
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Speaker 3: You can see there the Palestine protested on his horse
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Speaker 3: back from BONDI. I guess it's the same guy, Andrew.
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Speaker 3: How do you feel about what's happened to our country?
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Speaker 11: Look, it's so disgusting. I'm glad to see that Sydney
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Speaker 11: rally is a bit of a fizzer. The Melbourne one
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Speaker 11: is much more frightening today. Well, hundreds and hundreds of
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Speaker 11: people and not just the Muslims but also the disaffected
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Speaker 11: anti Australian left. We're marching, I say ant Australian because
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Speaker 11: this is really anti Western civilization. If you ask me,
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Speaker 11: what's one of the most disturbing things today, apart from
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Speaker 11: the graffiti that you've covered today about pro Hamas. It's
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Speaker 11: a statement by the Australian National Imams Council, which represents
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Speaker 11: most of the Muslim preachers in the country. I've got
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Speaker 11: it here in front of me, and if you have
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Speaker 11: a look, there's not one word in this statement about
45:46
Speaker 11: what today really commemorates, which is they say it's to
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Speaker 11: mark the two years of quote, relentless genocide and war
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Speaker 11: waged against the people of ghaz of it two years
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Speaker 11: today was actually the Hamas attack on Israel not a
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Speaker 11: word mentioned by the Imam's council.
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Speaker 1: Not a word.
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Speaker 11: Israel didn't launch a full scale invasion of Gaza for
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Speaker 11: another three weeks to free the hostages and destroy her mass.
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Speaker 11: So this is a co opting of a day of
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Speaker 11: tremendous grief, the murder rate, beheading and kidnapping of so
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Speaker 11: many year Jews. Well, it's being co opted as a
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Speaker 11: Oh no, this is really about Palestinians instead. I think
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Speaker 11: it is sick and I've got to say the Albiniza
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Speaker 11: government should look at this and hang its head in
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Speaker 11: shame for how it's encouraged this kind of sentiment in
46:41
Speaker 11: this country.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you completely spot on. I want to get
46:45
Speaker 3: your thoughts on the leadership of Susan Lee. The latest
46:48
Speaker 3: News poll had the coalition's primary vote at just twenty
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Speaker 3: eight percent, her personal approval minus twenty in heading south
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Speaker 3: two questions, can she recover?
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Speaker 4: And if not, is Andrew Hasty the answer?
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Speaker 11: I doubt that she can recover, and Andrew Hasty may
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Speaker 11: be the answer, but not yet. I must say, having
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Speaker 11: said that that I thought she gave a really gutsy,
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Speaker 11: tough speech in Parliament today. It might be two years
47:12
Speaker 11: since the slaughter of twelve hundred Jews, of the worst
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Speaker 11: single day of mass murdering Jews since the Holocaust. Very
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Speaker 11: tough speech, Anthony Albanez to start off and say, oh,
47:23
Speaker 11: he deplaus that, he deplauds it words words, words, words, words.
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Speaker 11: She got up and instead of saying, you know, we
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Speaker 11: deploy what she did do as well. But she said
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Speaker 11: the government's action have been shameful, and she's quite right.
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Speaker 11: I mean, it's just it is so tragic for this
47:39
Speaker 11: country that we have had a government for two years
47:42
Speaker 11: trying to play moral equivalents between Israel and Hamas to
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Speaker 11: a large extent, and that's how it's seemed, and also
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Speaker 11: been quite prepared to believe the worst of Israel at
47:53
Speaker 11: every turn, and then reward her mass the slaughter by saying, look,
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Speaker 11: we recognize a palace in state that doesn't exist in
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Speaker 11: half of its run by to Hamas terrorists. I mean,
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Speaker 11: it's just so extraordinary for us to have a government
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Speaker 11: that is praised by Hamas well.
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Speaker 3: Of course, Andrew, while you've been away, Alban easy try
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Speaker 3: to claim some credit for Trump's peace proposal as well.
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Speaker 11: Well, that's absolutely a joke. Absolutely joke. His plan was
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Speaker 11: to recognize a Palestinian state, and just you know, Yabbi
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Speaker 11: yabi Aba about Hamas having no role to play, the
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Speaker 11: Americans have said, no, there is no Palastinian state until
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Speaker 11: we actually do get Hamas defeated, disarmed, and hopefully out
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Speaker 11: of the area, and the hostage is released now not later.
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Speaker 11: So it's a joke. In fact, Hamas, As, I say,
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Speaker 11: congratulated Alban Easy for what he had done, and it
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Speaker 11: seems to became more intransigent as a result.
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Speaker 4: This is exactly exactly Andrew.
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Speaker 3: Normally I'd say thanks for coming on the program, but
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Speaker 3: instead I'm going to say thanks for having me on
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Speaker 3: your program. We trust you get better soon and you're
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Speaker 3: back real fast. Andrew Bolt, thanks so much. That's all
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Speaker 3: I've got time for tonight stick Around. Coming up right
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Speaker 3: now is Sharry Markson