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I got to say I I was looking at some of the contemporary reviews
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and obviously the the box office returns and I disagree with all
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of them. As it I mean, I way to jump to
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the rating, but you know. I know what.
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Do you? Well, you don't know at the time
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this was critically reviewed well and box office results show
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that audiences showed up for it. It was a very popular movie in
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its time, but I don't know if this one has aged as well.
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I just. Not as well as one, yeah.
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That's where I'm at. I'm just like I, I don't know if
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I agree with these ratings. Maybe not as well as two,
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because, I mean, I feel like you'll always have a good
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audience reception of punching Nazis.
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Oh yeah. In terms of this one, yeah,
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maybe re release this one might not get as nice a reception.
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Yeah, I don't know if this one would do as well today.
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And yeah, it's I, I don't know if I can point to anything
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specific that really kind of drew me out of it.
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I know that leading up to it, I was saying that this was the one
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I was most excited for because Once Upon a time this used to be
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my favorite in the franchise. And watching it last week, I was
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like, oh, Oh, my tastes have changed.
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Yeah, yeah. I think it's it.
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I'm trying to think of any contemporary movie now that
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would be similar in its feeling of not necessarily pandering to
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the audience, but just like, ha, isn't it funny that these
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detectives hassle someone for jaywalking and pull out their
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gun? That's hilarious.
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I think that was in the second movie, right?
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That was the beginning of the third one.
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That was, that was. One I.
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Was trying to remember where was where, Yeah, like, isn't that so
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funny? Isn't it so funny that they they
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assault their friend, tell him to shut up when he's he's trying
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to contribute? Isn't it so funny?
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Isn't it so funny that they changed his medical charts and
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added unnecessary procedures to it?
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$300 million begs to disagree with me.
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I'm trying to think what how old would a 20 year old from
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19801992 be now? They would be in their 50s I
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think, right? In 92, 20. 6/20. 834 and twenty
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5454 year old person think this is hilarious when they were 20
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that kind of tracks right yeah maybe I didn't watch it in
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theaters because I was so little but it did numbers I'm that's
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where it's interesting to see the passenger time.
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Hello and welcome to Potato Chip Pictures, the movie franchise
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review Podcast. My name is B Sammy Davis.
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I am still Justin most of the time.
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Most of the time, and today is one of those times.
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And today we're also looking at Lethal Weapon 3 from 1992.
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Justin, break it down for me. Tell me, tell me about the.
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People who made this movie. Comparing it to Lethal Weapon 2,
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the title is changed by 1 digit. It is 2, but it is 3.
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The director looks like that name stays the same.
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It is still Richard Donner of Superman, the two or I couldn't
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remember which. One and. 21 and 2.
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Of but it was fired midway through 2 so.
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It sounds like somebody was fired on this one midway through
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because I think I saw a bunch of screenwriter credits.
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We have Geoffrey Bohm which was on two and Robert Mark Kamen or
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like Ramen common. I don't.
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I don't know how you pronounce his last name, but it seemed
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like there was a couple switchovers there in the wiki.
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I didn't quite track them because I don't know if I blame
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them for for how this all went. But the story is credited to
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Jeffrey Boehm, producer Richard Downer and Joel Silver.
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That remains the same through all four.
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Movies. Now before you say the budget
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and return, I will say I noticed during the opening credits that
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they said based on the characters by Shane Black.
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So like he's still getting referenced even though he was
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not a part of this one at all. I I think it's fair the
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characters from 1:00 and 2:00 or more sympathetic than this one.
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I think just a little bit. I feel like in order to make the
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police funny you have to let them do non police things.
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In terms of two and three, as soon as Riggs gets mad enough
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then the law doesn't matter anymore.
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He's pissed and so he can do whatever he needs to.
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Which man, like, extrapolate that out to any field work of
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any law enforcement officers, and I don't like it.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Get as bad as you like and then take care of business like this
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is the fantasy movie 100%. There's this old meme that says,
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when I was a kid, I used to think that if you became a cop,
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you were above the law. And then I got a little older
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and I realized that's not true. And then I got a little older
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and I realized, Oh yeah, it is true.
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I hadn't seen that one. That's our numbers except for
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the budget. Budget.
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Why did we stop? We wanted to not.
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I wanted to talk about Shane Black, so I interrupted your
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budget in return. He's got, I don't know, maybe he
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made them pay him $5,000,000 to keep using the characters.
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I don't know because it was only 30 million last time and is 35
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for this go round. They make 100 million more off
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of that extra 5 million. So man, this one did significant
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numbers. I think it's referenced in the
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Wikipedia somewhere where it's like we had to buy Land Rovers
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or something, but we made $300 million, so it was written.
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For real, this one, this one made a lot of money and it's
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surprising that it did. But people like if if it stays
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in the intro. We, I mentioned it before,
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people at the time loved this movie and at least 20 years ago
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I loved it too. This used to be my favorite of
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all of them, but I don't know if it's aged as well.
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I think this is the one where I'm going to come away with it.
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Always rethinking my score where I'm like, was that the right
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score? Oh, I think I got it picked on
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the right score. But yeah, I I still don't know
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if I can trust asking Google what was the idea of the the bad
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guy. He was just laundering money.
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Like is that the second one? Also either just fascists and
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they make money from something like I feel like it all gets
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lost and maybe I give them extra credit saying I got the plot
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doesn't quite matter. It's like, well, because the
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relationship felt like it was authentic.
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This one, I think I started questioning the plot because it
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felt a little bit forced. They're still buddies, but the
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backdrop is, you know, support your buddy through accidentally
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killing a youth and support your buddy through hooking up with
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someone in internal affairs, which would present a conflict
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of interest and support your buddy who actually might be
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kissing your 19 year old daughter.
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I don't know how old she supposed to be.
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Yeah, her, her age. It's he was 37 in the first one,
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yes. And I.
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But I think she was in her late teens in the first one so she's
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got to be inner 20s now. But still cool.
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That is a significant age gap that I'm not comfortable with.
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So it feels like it just got a little more.
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The relationship didn't excuse as much of the plot points.
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And yes, as you go through a series, you got to add stuff
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that makes sense. But I don't love it.
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So what do they not add? I got to be honest.
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Well, I'm Speaking of addition. What I have noticed is that we
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have added one major character with every movie.
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So the first one, it was Riggs and Murtaugh, Second one, it was
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Riggs, Murtaugh and Joe Pesci. Leo, thank you.
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And then the 4th one, we get Leo back, but now we're adding the
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internal affairs lady, Lorna. And so there we go.
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Four people. Yeah.
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And I don't remember her last name, but I keep trying to
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remember what it was that that I liked about this in the past
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because I I just can't. I can't latch on to it anymore.
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And. I bet it's the skunk Foo woman.
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She was pretty rad for for everything this movie gets
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wrong. I kind of like Lorna.
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I think she's fun. She does.
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She does fit with the cast. Like she it makes sense that she
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would be another member of the family.
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I just think maybe the magic has worn off.
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Maybe the charm has gone away. A little like it just feels, I
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don't know, the the city doesn't feel as big.
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It's just the dudes it yes, of course they're going to find
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another something happening. But it I don't know.
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It feels heavier. Sure.
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Like I don't know how much heavier yet than lethal weapon
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one with the depression and suicidality, but it, it feels
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like a complicated, complicated area to start jumping into and
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saying, Oh, like, yeah, if someone points again at yeah and
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you defend yourself, it's it's gonna be 1 versus one.
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That's that's you and them. I've feel like I've already seen
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too many current day people recording themselves in the car
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because they'll get weapons pulled on them just from a
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regular law enforcement. And it's upsetting.
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And it's, it feels like a, what would you call it, a
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justification for those sorts of incidents with, with death.
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And I feel like I know it's probably not recent, but our our
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American climate in terms of police incidents and deaths
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don't generally favor the interpretation that is
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justified, even if the investigation says, oh, you
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know, totally justified, like. That might be what made this
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movie age so poorly. You know, in the past, I want to
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say five years, we've seen so many more very public police
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executions of civilians, whether that be on the federal level or
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the local level. And they keep getting away with
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it. They keep getting justified.
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They keep getting told that that was a clean kill.
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And we've got video camera footage that usually says no, it
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was not. And on top of that, for the past
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20 years, we've had police who immediately go to their weapon
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for anything, for any incident, and they are reaching for their
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gun. They've got pepper spray,
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they've got handcuffs, they've got all sorts of tools at their
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disposal. And they always reach for the
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kill switch, the thing that's going to end a life.
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And this movie is so flippant about cops and guns at the
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beginning. OK, not quite at the beginning
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because the beginning also lost me with the bomb threat that
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they failed at. But when the movie finally, or
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the franchise rather finally gives us consequences and both
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of our main characters are demoted, the first thing Riggs
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does is pull his gun on a jaywalker.
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And it's like that has become the norm, sadly, over 30 years
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later, cops still just pull their gun over anything.
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Anything. And that might be what made this
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movie age so poorly. Yeah, I can.
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I can see that because that was that was a tough scene to be
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like, oh ha ha. He they're no longer detectives.
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So they're what? Misplaced Rage Against a
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jaywalker because oh, let's, let's beat him up, man.
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Like Riggs goes off on him and it's just played for a laugh and
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Riggs is funny without needing to threaten people.
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Yeah, he's funny when he's crazy, but not when he's
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homicidal. Like that's the first thing he
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goes to is threatening to murder someone on the on the street
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publicly for everyone to see. For jaywalking, yeah.
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It's ridiculous. I'm also not a big fan of the
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the failed bomb diffusal. Where?
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Oh, yeah. They decide not to wait for the
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bomb squad and they save a cat. That's cool.
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Hooray. They saved a cat.
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Yeah. I'm sitting here like you've
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got. You don't need to be here.
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You know that there is a squad that is good at this because in
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the last movie they saved your partner.
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Why are you here? Good point.
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Yeah, I grant the fact that it comes out to the same result if
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they did do nothing, like, yeah, they failed.
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Our heroes have failed at something.
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OK, let's. That is a good a good way to
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make them human again, I guess. But it just feels like what may
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be a set up for them to get re promoted because of their
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heroism in front of internal affairs.
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Because Internal affairs sucks. Investigating sucks.
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For real, we want our cops to be good and corrupt.
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How dare there be a department that investigates them?
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Like I and I don't know, I'm ignorant of the history of
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internal affairs at other places because I imagine internal
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affairs can also become corrupted.
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So hey then yeah, someone that's corrupt investigating you feels
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real bad, doesn't it? So.
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Now to the movies credit, there is one mystery that they lay out
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kind of at the beginning where they're saying, and to answer
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your question about what is the motivation of the criminal, he's
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an ex cop who has decided to use the evidence locker as his free
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supply of literally anything he wants to sell.
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Guns and ammo are the two big ones that are in the movie, but
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he does mention that he also gets drugs and any other thing
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that he wants to get, he just grabs it from the evidence
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locker. So it makes sense that Internal
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Affairs is here investigating, trying to figure out how is this
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guy gaining access to everything.
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And that mystery, it least got me pointing the finger at
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everyone saying, are you, are you the traitor?
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Are you the one who's who's giving away the the evidence?
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Like I was pointing at Lorna. I for the brief moment that we
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had Lorna's partner in the movie, I was pointing at him.
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Then he's gone. So he doesn't matter.
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Yeah. Yeah, I'm pointing at everybody
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just being like, that's a dirty cop.
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No, that's The Dirty cop. We're going to find this dirty
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cop at some point. We're all looking for this guy.
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Yeah, we're all trying to find the guy who did this.
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Yeah. And it turns out.
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The the inside person was the chief the whole time but even
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that isn't fully explored because they make it sound like
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maybe he didn't want to be the partner.
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Yeah, the one who re promoted them is the one that we find out
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has been letting the ex cop into the evidence locker.
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Really. At least he's the the only time
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we see them steal from the evidence locker it's because
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they kidnap the chief and force him to do it.
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So maybe they're saying this was his one and only time that he
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did it. They like that's OK.
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That's my other big thumbs down. As much as I'm into this mystery
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of who is the crooked cop, I never get a satisfying answer.
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I was. Like the chief that he was in
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it, but he didn't get kidnapped. So I'm like, he was there for
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the and he runs this ring where he can get anything he wants to
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sell it for however much he needs, but you still have to run
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a construction company to launder the money.
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And famously, being a real estate developer is a very
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lucrative business. So why is he doing this?
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I and that's that I'm like, I don't quite get the motivations
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of this bad guy other than he's an ex cop and he's crooked.
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So that's how that's how corruption happens.
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They have to not be cops anymore and then they go.
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Then they go bad. Yeah, it's flimsy at best.
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And then as you brought it up, his side hustle, which every
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every gangster movie always has that legitimate side business
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that the criminals have in order to launder their money.
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He's got a side business that's worth millions of dollars.
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Like he's doing far bigger numbers by building and selling
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homes than he could ever be doing by selling to dis
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disreputable gangsters on the street.
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This is, I guess it's ludicrous there.
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I don't remember what it is, but there was some movie or show
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that had a gangster who ended up having his legitimate hustle
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being worth more than his criminal endeavors.
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And and he has to come to a a face to face with the fact that
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he doesn't want to do crime anymore because he's doing much
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better with his legitimate earnings.
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And that is never addressed here.
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We're just supposed to believe that he somehow makes more money
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doing crime. But to the movies credit, I will
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say this is the first time that I've been like, OK, I understand
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the motivations of the villain and how they are making their
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money. The other movies, it was always
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a little unclear. They were either somehow
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involved with drugs or smuggling.
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We're just supposed to know they're the bad guys and that's
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OK. This one, we get to see them
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committing crime. We get the crime spelled out to
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us. And so I was like, all right, at
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least the movie isn't just saying, look, the bad guy, trust
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us, it's the bad guy. It's the bad guy, Yeah.
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And really, if we go along with the the movies for the Buddy Cup
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relationship and let's add in a new lead character to give us a
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romantic relationship because yeah, maybe we don't want Riggs
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dating a fascist. Well, she's dead now.
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You can't date her anymore. Sure, reformed.
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Remorseful, like OK, so he gets to date internal affairs and
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they I feel like chemistry was OK.
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I do feel like it's kind of a jolt when he's like, oh, it's my
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girl or my woman or something when she's fighting a bunch of
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dudes and like, we all just like slept together.
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But I didn't feel like it was more than that.
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But if, OK, I guess it is more than that.
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And that the end we get to see a softer side of Riggs to be like,
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oh, I actually really like you don't die, OK.
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And she makes it the whole movie like.
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Yeah, she survives. So obviously she is the one for
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him. No shade, no shade to her
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character. More a it was an all right sort
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of courtship, I guess, period. They they fight and that
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apparently makes it good bases foundation for a relationship
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and let's compare scars and that totally does it.
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It's it's on like. Seeing.
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OK, I've got very complicated feelings about that scene in
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particular. They.
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So Riggs and Lorna decide to go on their own little mission to
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try to figure out where the guns and the ammo are.
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On that mission, they find a guard dog and.
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Yeah, And it is a cute scene where Riggs becomes the animal
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whisperer and gets the guard dog to be on their side and and they
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rescue you. Yeah, it's it isn't.
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It's fun. And the the action sequence is
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fun. Then they go home and like you
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said, they're comparing scars with really bad makeup on their
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scars. Like you think they would do a
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little bit better job blending, but whatever.
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It's it's a cute sequence until they start to kiss and Lorna
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says no. And I'm just sitting here like,
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I guess in the 90s, no means yes because in 89 and 92 we've had
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two women give Riggs a very clear no.
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And that's not enough. He's going to go anyway.
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If you kiss them then I guess, yeah.
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Yep. Yep.
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But then my other side of these complicated feelings, the part
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that I find realistic when on the rare occasions that it
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happens when I end up sleeping with someone, I tend to get
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feelings for them because I'm like, well, now we've done it,
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we've got to be together forever.
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And pretty obviously after that night, Riggs is madly in love
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with Lorna. Like he is all about that woman
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for the rest of the movie. And so that part I found
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realistic because I was like, yeah, that's that's what happens
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to me if I'm dating. That's all it takes for me to be
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like we are together forever. That's fair.
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I think that, yeah, I feel like there's still a little bit of
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formality that generally just doesn't get put on screen.
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But it is like, oh, like, but if you want to be exclusive, you
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know, talk about it, make it obvious.
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But yeah, it's just a movie, so. Yeah, And, you know, we've got
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to get from here to there. And so.
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But, you know, I feel like, I feel like Lorna kicks enough ass
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to not just be a pretty face. Like she gets a very extended
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fight sequence shortly after this torrid love affair begins
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where Murtagh gets to watch her do some Kung Fu and, and she's
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pretty rad. She takes out three or four
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dudes by herself while the two guys are just watching and, and
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I'm enjoying that. Like, I do feel like she fits.
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She is a good addition to the cast all things considered.
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I may have complicated feelings about the relationship and about
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how things got started, but now that she's here, thumbs up to
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her. Like just like Leo, I am glad
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that she's part of the cast. I enjoy the character.
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It took me a minute to get into her, but now that that she's
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kicking butt and hanging out with with our two lead
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characters, I'm on board. So I I will give the movie a
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thumbs up there. Yep, I think that it's it ends
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up being good. I think I don't remember
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watching 50% of the love and three before this go.
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So I did remember her, but I remember her better in the 4th 1
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when it does seem like I'm excited to see that one because
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I think that the people, the people relationships felt sturdy
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in that one. I don't know if I'll change my
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mind but it did feel better than this one.
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Man Riggs Amurta just felt more forced like it.
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They're both dealing with something, but I'd say Riggs is
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dealing with less surprisingly. But it's still up to them to
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allow their feelings to exist only after you get punched.
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Like, oh, it's OK to have these complicated feelings about
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killing a kid if you get to punch somebody about it, like.
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Yeah, OK. And all right, let's let's talk
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about the other character in this movie, which is the cop
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killer bullet that is talked about from their demotion all
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the way to the end of the movie. These are these new rounds that
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are on the streets. You don't even need to wear body
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armor anymore because it's not going to do you any good.
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Those bullets are going right through and at one point, At one
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point Murtagh wants to cook Riggs a burger and Riggs decides
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to wander off and start a fight. He gets knocked out by some
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unknown assailant. We will never know who it was
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who knocked him out. Yep.
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But when Murtagh shows up, there's someone inside of a shed
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taking shots at them, and Murtagh shoots through a steel
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door to kill the the shooter. And it turns out to be a kid.
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Not only a kid, but a kid who used to be best friends with
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Murtagh's son. And that just makes things too
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real. And that starts his decline
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where he becomes an alcoholic and he he vows to take revenge
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on whoever is getting these weapons out there.
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And even the kids family who has just buried their son is like,
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you find the man who put the gun and the bullets in our son's
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hand. Like I, I just, I don't think
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it's a very good motivator. And then we're going to get to a
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point where it becomes a magic bullet, where it only kills
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people who don't matter. Yeah, because Jack Travis
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doesn't use it when he's shooting love interest.
32:50
Only when. Yeah, other times.
32:53
Well, yeah, and like I think she is, he does use it on her, but
32:59
she's wearing 2 bulletproof. Vents.
33:01
Yeah, that's super easy to do. Yeah, the the double layers of
33:07
steel is enough to stop the cop killer, but like 1/2 an hour
33:13
earlier when the rookie wants to hang out with Riggs and Murtagh,
33:17
he hides behind a steel barrel and it pierces through two
33:21
layers of steel and into his bulletproof vest and kills them.
33:26
So 3 layers of steel can't stop it.
33:30
Interesting. Yeah man, when they're at the
33:33
construction site and he shoots Lorna, he like shoots like 7
33:40
bullets out of his six shooter. Like it's so many shots he
33:44
takes. But she's.
33:47
Fine, it is a little ridiculous. Yeah, it's and you know, same
33:53
sequence. We're at the end of the movie,
33:56
but we will likely come back to the rest of the movie.
33:58
So if you're sitting here saying you guys jumped over everything
34:03
they weren't we're talking about the specific character of the
34:06
bull of the cop killer bullet and the bad guys got his his
34:14
bulldozer and Murtagh throws the cop killer to to Riggs and he's
34:21
able to shoot through the steel and kill the bad guy.
34:25
But again, Lorna with two sheets of steel is just fine.
34:32
She can survive this. Like it bugs me so much I hate I
34:37
just don't like the cop killer. I think it may have been topical
34:41
in the early 90s when higher, heavier firepower was showing up
34:48
in the news all the time. So this may have been topical to
34:52
the time period. But in terms of how it impacts
34:57
the story, I don't like it, I don't buy it.
35:00
It's unnecessary and it didn't really help anything.
35:03
The armor piercing rounds just Pierce armor.
35:08
It does feel a little pointed to the fact that it's still a buddy
35:13
cop movie. Makes it like less awkward.
35:17
But if it were any other movie and you denote it as a cop
35:24
killer, it's like, well, like, sure, it is just an armor
35:30
piercing round. So anyone with armor would also
35:34
be killed by this. So I I mean, I don't have much
35:43
else to say about the ammo in particular other than the fact
35:46
that you've pointed out times that it doesn't work
35:50
consistently to to its effect. Yeah, I the one cop that gets
36:01
shot through the barrel, it's like it's his birthday.
36:05
That one fell a little bit like a trope of, oh, let's we're
36:10
really going to feel sorry for this guy.
36:11
It's like, well, we already were going to feel sorry otherwise he
36:14
got to be his birthday. Yeah, like maybe give him some
36:21
actual character instead of letting him show up twice in the
36:24
movie and the second time just to kill him.
36:28
Like so lame. But I think what was more
36:34
impactful and didn't pay off is the fact that Murtagh is a week
36:40
away from retirement and the whole movie he is like, I'm
36:44
going to die, like I'm about to retire, therefore I'm going to
36:49
die. And it's a few close calls.
36:53
Basically, he is going to die because you can't stop working.
36:57
Who's going to stop retirement in the 90s?
37:02
You got to be kidding me. This you got to keep working.
37:06
Yeah, you live to work and you work to live company needs.
37:09
You and it's like this is all a little bit too, too much.
37:18
Yes, you can really enjoy your job, but man I feel like you
37:25
should be able to retire if you're planning on it.
37:28
Take a promotion. Surely he doesn't need to always
37:34
be out on the streets solving crimes and getting into
37:37
gunfights like, but this is. I'm not sure if this is the
37:44
start of the trope of X days until retirement, but it
37:51
certainly becomes a running theme after this movie.
37:56
Whether it be someone dying or just for comedic effect, you'll
38:01
always have a cop who's like, I'm five days away from
38:05
retirement and that's usually a sign that they are going to die.
38:10
But sometimes they don't. And to my knowledge, I think
38:13
this is where that starts. Although, spoiler alert, Murtagh
38:18
will live until the next movie. Thankfully.
38:26
Yeah, I would like to talk about Murtagh's family because today I
38:33
learned that his wife and children have been the same
38:38
actors for all three movies and they will continue to be the
38:42
same actors for the next movie as well.
38:45
That's fun. Yeah.
38:47
So if their appearance changes, it's because they are naturally
38:51
getting older and that's just how it is.
38:54
But I when I saw, I think it's Rayna.
38:59
I can't remember the oldest daughter's name.
39:01
Rianne. Thank you.
39:03
When Rhianne shows up, I was like, did they recast?
39:07
Did they get a new person? Because she doesn't look like
39:10
she did in the last two movies. But Nope, it was the same
39:13
actress she has and she will be there for the 4th movie.
39:19
Yeah, I I'm really into. The family I enjoy that.
39:26
I do think it is like maybe the decision not to retire is not
39:34
the most healthy, but the family was like, yeah, we'll we'll
39:38
still be here waiting for you to retire.
39:40
Like well, good to support. You're just like in the first
39:44
movie they they break into his bathroom while he's taking a
39:48
bath. At least this time his wife had
39:51
the decency to to put a towel over him.
39:56
I don't feel like we talked about Leo much.
39:58
He's not. Yeah, did Leo.
40:01
I was about to say let's let's get to Leo because he is,
40:05
despite being so important to the last movie and being here
40:09
for this movie, as you said, he barely counts, he barely
40:14
matters. He's living off of that home
40:17
alone money now, like he doesn't need to be in this movie.
40:25
He's he's a real estate agent. He's going to sell the Murtaz
40:29
house for some reason. They're they're selling their
40:31
house. We don't know why.
40:33
It's been three years. They get to live their life.
40:36
You pointed it out in the first movie when they were doing their
40:39
renovations. You don't always talk about the
40:42
why when you're doing stuff like it's just a part of life that
40:46
things are happening and Leo is going to sell their house.
40:51
And that to me is the best part of Leo when he's being a real
40:56
estate agent, when he's asking people, do you own your own
40:59
house? That's that's my thumbs up for
41:03
Leo. Leo, the real estate agent,
41:06
thumbs up. I like it, Yeah.
41:08
He he's a little annoying with the the hockey rink gunshot and.
41:14
Yeah. Riggs and Murtaugh being jerks
41:16
to him just kind of feels like they don't.
41:21
In the end of the last one, they kind of brought him in more than
41:26
the level of the jaywalker. But when you mess with his
41:28
chart, you kind of put him back down to the, oh, I'd pull a gun
41:32
on you if I had to. And it's like, yeah, but you
41:35
like Kim. I know like I'm sitting here
41:39
like last movie he was part of the family.
41:41
Now this movie, you guys are being jerks to him again, for
41:46
real. He's even the one who solves the
41:50
mystery. Like when he gets reunited with
41:54
the crew and and they're like, figure out who this person is,
41:58
He's like, Oh yeah, I figured that out.
41:59
And he's got this real estate thing that he's doing in this
42:03
specific location. Like he solves the mystery and
42:08
yet nobody gives him any respect.
42:10
Nobody gives him any respect around here, so I I think they
42:15
do Leo dirty in this movie. I still like the character, I
42:20
just wish that the writers liked him.
42:24
Yeah, Oh yeah. I don't have many good points to
42:31
dwell on. Like, I think I like the new
42:37
actress. I think I like her more in the
42:40
fourth one. The rigs Murtagh just feel more
42:45
forced than normal. Like I don't can't really point
42:50
to it other than we can't express our emotions without
42:54
violence. It's just impossible in 1992,
42:58
you know, you must punch something or when the therapist
43:03
come by, comes by, you must suppress something.
43:08
Just you can't. You can't exist with the tough
43:13
emotions and complicated emotions of a 1992 LA police
43:17
officer. The.
43:23
Yeah, ex cop, I'm with you. On that villain, he's
43:28
run-of-the-mill. If the relationships felt better
43:32
than I wouldn't care as much, but they felt lesser.
43:35
So you got to have something to put there and the villain was
43:39
just this is bad guy. He's definitely the most
43:43
forgettable of all of the villains.
43:46
They even find his business partner midway through the movie
43:50
and they don't care. They they roll up on him at one
43:54
point to try to figure out who's supplying the cop killers.
43:58
And yeah, the villains just their their decoration for this
44:03
movie like they're they try to make him sound imposing.
44:09
He's an ex cop He's he's got some good lines of dialogue.
44:15
He just is so forgettable when we've had near cartoonish
44:21
villains from the last two movies and then he just got a
44:25
regular corrupt dude. Like I don't know, it just
44:29
doesn't work as well for me. I feel like he reminds me of
44:32
that one dude in James Bond who wasn't the main villain but got
44:36
exploded in the in the submarine.
44:39
Oh yeah, I don't even remember. Timothy Dalton won.
44:43
It was I, It was one of his two movies.
44:47
It was his second one. Was that License to Kill?
44:51
Maybe I think because that was like, oh, everything's on on the
44:55
table, kill everybody. But like that villain,
45:00
forgettable, he dies in an interesting way, but I don't
45:06
recall much else about the bad guy other than he was the bad
45:10
guy that got found out by another bad guy and OK.
45:15
We just needed to have a bad guy.
45:17
There's the bad guy. We got you one.
45:19
He's in the movie, so. I mean, I don't know if we're
45:24
ready to take any sort of ratings.
45:27
I. Don't have.
45:28
There was something I wanted to bring up and I'm trying to
45:31
remember what it was because, well, OK, I think the movie has
45:39
110 out of 10 seen. And that is Murtagh drunk on the
45:46
boat when he's just wallowing in his self pity and Riggs shows up
45:54
to have a discussion. Yeah, he has to be drunk to
45:58
give, you know, his emotional feelings, but it's there.
46:04
And he's very torn up over the fact that he has killed a kid.
46:09
Like, that's that's not something that you expect from a
46:14
modern movie. But then like, yeah, I, I did
46:18
feel it. I was the movie almost got me to
46:22
tears listening to him being upset over killing a kid.
46:28
Like so I I do have to give the movie its credit.
46:33
It had a surprisingly emotional scene in on a boat.
46:39
Like the I'm good on them they. They never got me Riggs.
46:43
He has also big feelings. Yes, that's.
46:47
Like, and, you know, good. I'm glad they're yelling at each
46:50
other and I'm glad they're feeling their feelings.
46:53
And at least we got it. Like it took us long enough.
46:59
Yeah, it was OK. I do think Riggs kind of pulling
47:04
the spotlight to himself instead of first being there for his
47:10
partner. Like maybe it was the way to
47:15
connect. That's true.
47:16
But it. I'll give it a nine out of 10
47:19
then on that scene, because you are correct, he does.
47:23
He is very douchey. Yeah.
47:25
What about my feelings? You didn't shoot the kid like
47:31
you. Kind of.
47:32
You were asleep on the ground. The whole thing into motion so.
47:39
And then I do have to say my big thumbs down to this movie and
47:46
frankly to the franchise so far, is the lack of consequences.
47:52
It is so irritating, like the only time we got consequences in
47:57
this movie was because they failed to disarm a bomb and then
48:02
10 minutes later they're promoted back to detective.
48:08
We don't get to explore any of this.
48:11
Made me so mad. And then before we get to the
48:16
ratings, did you watch the post credit scene?
48:21
I I debated if I had to wait very long and I don't remember
48:24
seeing enough credit time to go watch it, so Nope.
48:30
It is not worth it. You didn't miss anything.
48:37
I okay, I don't even know if we get to see the actors, it might
48:42
just be them, their voices, but they are driving to another bomb
48:48
threat and as they pull up the bomb explodes.
48:53
Now I remember. So they don't even get out of
48:55
the car. They don't even go in.
48:57
They're just like, don't tell anyone we were there, blah, blah
48:59
blah. And it's supposed to be funny,
49:02
but it's not. It's not worth it it.
49:04
I don't even know why it's in the movie.
49:06
Like cutting room floor material all the way.
49:10
They just needed to blow up another building.
49:12
They had $35 million. They had to blow up another
49:15
building. Let's do it.
49:18
Sign a check, make it happen. For real.
49:22
That's that's what we get for $35 million.
49:24
Two buildings getting blown up. All right, well, yeah, I don't
49:30
have anything else in the movie proper, so let's just tell the
49:33
audience that on this podcast, we do ratings, not grades.
49:37
The primary difference is where you find the average in a grade.
49:41
You say A7 out of 10 is the average because you don't want
49:43
people to feel bad, but we say no, the average should be the
49:47
middle. There for a 5 out of 10 is what
49:50
we define as average. If we rate it above that, it
49:54
means we liked it. If we rate it below that, it
49:56
means we maybe didn't like it. That doesn't necessarily mean we
50:00
don't recommend it. There have been times when a
50:03
movie is good that I wouldn't recommend watching.
50:06
There have been times when a movie is bad and I would say
50:08
watch it for sure. But on this show, just know that
50:13
a 5 out of 10 is the average. We're not saying it's a bad
50:16
movie if it's a 5. We're just saying it's an
50:18
average movie. So with that said, Justin,
50:22
please tell us what did you give Lethal Weapon 3?
50:26
Very little Hemming and hind about this one.
50:30
It isn't this redeeming as the second one.
50:36
I think Leo allows the feeling of not just the violence is the
50:44
answer to come through. Like Leo is respected and
50:47
welcomed the family at least for 24 hours in this one.
50:55
I don't really get the sense that anybody likes each other
50:58
like they're they're Riggs falls in love.
51:04
But it's kind of in spite of the fact that he doesn't like her
51:09
initially, he does like her. He doesn't like her.
51:13
They don't like Leo, or at least they don't have any final
51:17
redeeming scene of, yeah, you can run the siren as you go
51:20
back. Like just because we we feel,
51:23
yeah, you're, you're one of us. And it's like, oh, that's so
51:26
nice guys. Like you've been a jerk.
51:28
And this one, I don't remember any sort of thing like that
51:31
happening. So it's below average.
51:37
It is a four. That is a fair rating because I
51:44
am also at a four. I just think that this movie, it
51:51
it tried, it had a couple of good moments, but it just
51:56
doesn't capture what the last two movies had.
52:01
Like it feels like they were trying to capture the the
52:04
mystery detective side of things from the first one and a little
52:09
bit of comedy from the second one.
52:12
And they didn't really give me either.
52:15
And so and then again, I think modern history colors this movie
52:21
A. Whole bunch I think.
52:24
For real, I think if we had actual heroic police in the year
52:30
2026, this movie would have aged well.
52:34
But the fact that I have such little trust for modern police
52:40
really colors watching a cop wave his gun around and threaten
52:46
to shoot someone for jaywalking. Like it's.
52:50
It's just a little bit harder to forgive these shenanigans.
52:55
So it's hard to say that, you know, the movie aged poorly
53:00
because of history. But at the same time, we live
53:03
now in the present, and we judge movies based on the world and
53:08
the experiences that we've had now.
53:11
And so I think an audience watching this movie today would
53:15
not find it as charming as an audience watching it in 1992.
53:21
And so I think a Thor is a really respectable score for
53:26
this movie, all things considered, because even without
53:30
history, you still have a movie that fails to capture on the the
53:35
detective side or the comedy side.
53:38
So I think Thor is being generous if I'm honest.
53:42
Which of course gives us a show average of a nice easy 4 out of
53:48
10, Don't even have to think it over the next one.
53:55
My older brother said that at least Once Upon a time the 4th 1
53:59
was his favorite. I don't remember much about it.
54:03
I think it was the premiere of Jet Li to an American audience.
54:08
He had been doing Kung Fu movies in Hong Kong and China and and
54:13
he was a rising star. But I think this was one of his
54:18
first big movies for an American audience.
54:22
So I'm excited to at least see Jet Li like he's cool.
54:26
I. Think that's what made more of
54:29
my enjoyment last time because it was generally Riggs could be
54:37
counted on as being just you know, if you added his crazy and
54:41
his rage, then he will overpower you with all of his martial arts
54:44
like well, what if somebody is better at that because.
54:48
Yeah, like what if someone's competent?
54:51
Yeah, someone maybe you're close to retirement, maybe you should
54:54
consider that. So we'll see what happens.
54:57
I'm. Excited also I'm also excited to
54:59
see if we get to add another member of the family.
55:02
You know, we've got Riggs, Murtaugh, Leo and Lorna.
55:06
Are we going to get a fourth person or a fifth person to join
55:10
our happy family? I'll.
55:12
Recall. If they do, we'll have to see.
55:15
There is someone on the the poster, there is a named actor
55:20
who is a pretty big deal, especially in 1998.
55:24
But I just don't remember enough of this movie to know A if I'm
55:31
if it's going to be good and B if that character deserves to be
55:37
on the marquee. Like is he actually a part of
55:40
the movie or is he just a cameo? Gotcha.
55:44
Yeah. So we'll see.
55:46
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57:05
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57:10
this shit. Yeah.
57:12
Goodbye, goodbye.