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Chasing the Dream, Dodging the Crash · Dos Amigos

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Speaker 1: Hey, woo soup.
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Speaker 2: This is Freddy Rodriguez and Woman About Drama.
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Speaker 2: We are back for another episode.
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Speaker 3: Thank god, we are only we get to you know,
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Speaker 3: talk again.
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Speaker 1: How are you feeling, man? You look you look a
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Speaker 1: little burned out.
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Speaker 2: I'm a little tired. Yeah, I'm a little tired.
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Speaker 3: I'm a little tired because we just wrapped season of
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Speaker 3: n C I s Yeah, I just wrapped.
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Speaker 2: Two hundred episodes in the show crazy. It's really crazy.
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Speaker 2: Do you feel do you feel?
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Speaker 1: I mean you ever? I mean, are you experiencing burnout
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Speaker 1: at this moment? After doing two hundred? After doing how
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Speaker 1: many episodes did you do this season?
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Speaker 2: Well, it's not normal to do two hundred anymore. Nobody
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Speaker 2: does yees anymore? Right, and so to two hundred?
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Speaker 3: By that by episode seventeen, you're like, oh good, and
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Speaker 3: so third, yeah, you.
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Speaker 1: Know how many episodes you do?
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Speaker 2: Did you do twenty twenty?
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Speaker 1: Is that standard for you?
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Speaker 2: Guys?
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Speaker 3: Twenty We used to be twenty four at the beginning.
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Speaker 3: Then with the twenty two. Then then we had a
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Speaker 3: COVID with it ten or something with it, strike with
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Speaker 3: the sixteen or vice versa, and then now we're back
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Speaker 3: at twenty now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's it's a grind, man, it's a grind.
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Speaker 2: You kind of have to. It's a different steminus. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's not for everybody.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not for.
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Speaker 3: Everybody, because you know, it takes eight days to shoot
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Speaker 3: one episode, right, so you know there's no vacation. It's
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Speaker 3: a half hour lunch. You know you're there at seven.
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Speaker 3: You'll leave us seven.
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Speaker 1: Nine months out of the year, just about it over
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Speaker 1: over nine and a half. I mean you knew that
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Speaker 1: going again, right, Like like what made you You must
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Speaker 1: have been ready for that, that grind, yeah, before you
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Speaker 1: went in there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I also thinks about creating a character that like allows
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Speaker 3: you to.
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Speaker 2: Flow.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know, in movies you tend to take the most
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Speaker 3: challenging characters because for three months, that's what you're doing,
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Speaker 3: You're doing this character, you're finding it out, you're grinding
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Speaker 3: it out. But in TV, you want to find characters
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Speaker 3: you can you can.
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Speaker 2: Flow, yeah, because it's long.
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Speaker 3: But you you've also you know you've you've done t
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Speaker 3: for for a long time.
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Speaker 2: How do you how do you prevent yourself from burning out?
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Speaker 1: Man? When I did it differs. You know, I didn't
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Speaker 1: feel burned out when I did Cable, when I did
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Speaker 1: Network TV, you know, the last foray into network TV,
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Speaker 1: when I did Bull, I experienced and burnout. It was.
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Speaker 1: It was pretty It was difficult. You know, I was
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Speaker 1: doing ten page lawyer scenes, you know, all the lawyer jargon,
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Speaker 1: three cameras, you know, two hundred people in the room.
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Speaker 2: To pat logs.
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Speaker 1: A lot of output, man, a lot of output. I
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Speaker 1: felt like I was like in like theater camp, you know,
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Speaker 1: like every every episode was training my brain to absorb
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Speaker 1: that type of dialogue and to be But the burnout
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Speaker 1: was was pretty real, man. And I'd never I never
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Speaker 1: did twenty episodes, but I think that one was also
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Speaker 1: like yours twenty and then and then I think it
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Speaker 1: kind of went to like eighteen, but it stayed in
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Speaker 1: that space. But you know, by the time January came
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Speaker 1: and we were I was, I was, I was dragging
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Speaker 1: my feet.
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Speaker 2: Even even Christmas doesn't feel like a rest.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, two and a half weeks I offer for
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Speaker 3: Christmas and you're just and then you get into a
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Speaker 3: holiday season, you're like shopping, you're the family, cooking, the
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Speaker 3: whole thing.
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Speaker 1: It's like, how many days an episode do you work? Eight?
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Speaker 1: You work all eight? Really, you work all eight.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes that'll give me a day off for meetings. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: so I go and my because I have to do
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Speaker 3: studio meetings or whatever.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but for the most part, it's eight out of eight,
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Speaker 3: seven out of eight.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Are you in every scene? Is that? Why?
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Speaker 2: Pretty much? Yeah, we're in the most scenes.
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Speaker 3: The four the four Investigators are like kind of going,
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Speaker 3: you know. But when you get to that point when
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Speaker 3: you're doing that many episodes and you're doing other development aside,
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Speaker 3: I mean, what do you how do you prevent the burnout?
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Speaker 3: What do you think? What do you think helps? Like
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Speaker 3: what's the state of mind or what do you do?
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Speaker 3: Like how do you stay healthy? That's a good question.
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Speaker 3: Have you have you watchable? I got progressively fatter as
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Speaker 3: that's very therapeutic, you really want to make it. You
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Speaker 3: got to store some energy.
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Speaker 1: You gotta store some energy, man, you know. Uh no,
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Speaker 1: I I I had a hard time with burnout on
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Speaker 1: that on that show and gained weight and I had
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Speaker 1: to try to figure out how to do that and
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Speaker 1: how to maintain my health and eat healthy. And but
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Speaker 1: how did you do it? I mean, I mean, you're
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Speaker 1: you're so much more of an expert at that than me,
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Speaker 1: And I think that maybe it was a learning curve
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Speaker 1: for me to do that, where you're like a freaking
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Speaker 1: pro at.
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Speaker 3: It, right, I mean, I think it's you know, you
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Speaker 3: you fight against everything you possibly get to get to
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Speaker 3: the point to get to the point where you're like
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Speaker 3: starting to gain weight because you're too tired to work out.
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Speaker 3: That was me, So I get, you know, and I
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Speaker 3: want I want to also talk a little bit about
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Speaker 3: that part, because when we talk about gaining weight, you're
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Speaker 3: talking about a you know, a subliminal state of mind
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Speaker 3: that all of a sudden, the only motivation you have
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Speaker 3: is to memorize lines, say them aloud, and be on
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Speaker 3: your feet for ten to twelve hours and do choreography
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Speaker 3: and do walking around and do community with us, and
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Speaker 3: your output entertaining. So therefore, you know, you're reading line
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Speaker 3: and you're not sitting down and having a proper meal, right,
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Speaker 3: you're eating only on set, which is like you know,
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Speaker 3: if anybody has seen the stereotypical craft services.
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Speaker 2: It's like every pair of chips, you can ease whatever.
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Speaker 2: And it's like that.
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Speaker 3: Instinct like sugar spike or that instinct like coffee spike
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Speaker 3: or that instant like so like your body starts slowing down.
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Speaker 3: And so for me, the I take care of my
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Speaker 3: brain first, So I do the brain knocked in, I
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Speaker 3: do you know, collagen and creating creamers and stuff like that,
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Speaker 3: and that kind of keeps keeps you hydrated, keeps your
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Speaker 3: brain hydrated, and that's how you retain information. And then
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Speaker 3: how do you take care of the body. I just
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Speaker 3: I stay in the gym as hard as it is.
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Speaker 3: So I started doing it four thirty in the morning
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Speaker 3: because you needed church, right, you needed a place to
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Speaker 3: work it out, to grind it out. And then you
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Speaker 3: come to set warm awoken. You know, you're not sleepy,
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Speaker 3: you're not drugging, you don't just wake up.
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Speaker 2: So that helps.
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Speaker 3: Now ten episodes in, Yeah, I'm gonna take the day off, right,
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Speaker 3: I'm mentoring morning now from working out right, and then
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Speaker 3: feels better to sleep in. Yeah, I take two hours
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Speaker 3: today right right, Then comes episode seventeen.
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Speaker 2: It's pasta bar. You know I've been pretty good the
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Speaker 2: last three episodes.
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Speaker 3: I have a pasta, So then you start slowing the say,
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Speaker 3: oh my guys, the white sauce of the red sauce.
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Speaker 3: You recommend that white sauce extra Yeah, I like cheese.
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Speaker 2: That's the problem, you know.
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Speaker 3: The problem is like you's like it's easy to reward
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Speaker 3: yourself because it's also easier to reward yourself more often, right,
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Speaker 3: Like Okay, well I have a pasta a week, right,
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Speaker 3: you know, but then you're not working out, you're working whatever.
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Speaker 3: But you gotta like fuel your body for stamina, you know,
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Speaker 3: give yourself some healthy cars so your body can absorb
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Speaker 3: it as supposed to restore it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but that's like that's on the physical part.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The mental fatigue is is where it's it's scary, bro.
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Speaker 3: It's heavy because you gotta you gotta retain information.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Movies is funny because you'll shoot like two scenes for
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Speaker 3: twelve hours. Yeah, TV you're doing five scenes in one day.
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Speaker 1: You like, give me the next episode the next exactly.
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Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was tough.
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Speaker 1: I think I think one of the things I got
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Speaker 1: me through it, I just felt I felt appreciated, you know,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes it's all you need is to like feel appreciated,
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Speaker 1: you know. Shout out to to David's staff and the
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Speaker 1: George Cheeks and all the wonderful people at CBS. I
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Speaker 1: loved working at that network and always felt appreciated by them.
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Speaker 1: And there were some other executives that were there before that,
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Speaker 1: and I know you're still working with all of them.
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Speaker 2: Amazing.
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Speaker 1: I just uh, they were just like good human beings, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, real aware, yeah, always aware.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Amy, you know, shut out, she's my sister, man, Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Just nice people, man, nice people. I always felt appreciated
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Speaker 1: by them. I always felt like I was doing some
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Speaker 1: good work for them, and they and they were always
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Speaker 1: vocal about that. And and that's that's that was like
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Speaker 1: one of the things that got me through, you know
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Speaker 1: that And and the uh, the fan response, right, you know,
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Speaker 1: the fans love.
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Speaker 2: That is working and you're getting to them. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: You just feel like you're doing your job, you know,
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Speaker 1: and so it's sort of curbs the burnout, you know,
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Speaker 1: and and and by the time you get to the end,
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Speaker 1: you're like, where's where's I want to stay in bed
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Speaker 1: for like a month.
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Speaker 3: And then your wife comes and just like, can we
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Speaker 3: plan a vacation? Yeah, yeah, exactly right, and you have vacation.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it.
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Speaker 1: You know. You know Elsie did that for me. Man,
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Speaker 1: She's she's so wonderful. She took me to she took
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Speaker 1: me to Puerto Rico and got this wonderful room and
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Speaker 1: we were at this great resort and and I and
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Speaker 1: I fell asleep a lot of the time I was there. Man,
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Speaker 1: I felt so bad because I know she wanted to like.
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Speaker 2: Explore it, and I was like.
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Speaker 1: Like on the on the on the balcony.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Amanda does a really good job by
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Speaker 2: making sure I'm awake.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going. The car is here, the boat is there.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel that choosing, you know, a job that
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Speaker 1: may induce burnout now at this stage in your career
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Speaker 1: is different than what it was earlier in your career.
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Speaker 1: I mean I got a little older, you mean, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure when you did seventy show you were like
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Speaker 1: bringing on right, I mean you're in your teens and you're.
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Speaker 3: Like, I will literally on my days where I had
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Speaker 3: a day like a half a day, I will fly
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Speaker 3: to New.
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Speaker 2: York have meetings, promote, and come right back.
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Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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Speaker 3: They give me, like Tuesday off, I'll fly to Miami
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Speaker 3: to do Spanish speaking press and come back and rehearse
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Speaker 3: the same day.
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Speaker 1: I do. Crazy.
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Speaker 2: It's tough like that because I just did you do that?
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Speaker 1: Now you think you could do that?
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Speaker 2: Now I could. But instead of.
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Speaker 3: You know, watching movies on the plane and like talking
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Speaker 3: to strangers, which I love talking to.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the whole flight to talk like exactly, I love that.
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Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey man, let's talk for two hours.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we're going to sleep. Ten hours later
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Speaker 3: we still talked. I was so pig dude.
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Speaker 1: So so now now now you sleep on the I
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Speaker 1: try to sleep.
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Speaker 2: When I don't have to be awake.
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Speaker 3: But look, getting back to the philosophical part of it,
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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you kind of wonder, like what is
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Speaker 3: the thing that makes you ignore the fatigue and like
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Speaker 3: makes you ignore or the soreness and the tiredness, Like
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Speaker 3: what is that thing? What is that feeling you're chasing?
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Speaker 3: And you know, it's different for everybody. I think that
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Speaker 3: I think for us, for people like us that were
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Speaker 3: at this place of our lives and careers, it's about
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Speaker 3: keeping the light on. It's about giving our families, you know,
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Speaker 3: that kind of balance and that wealth being. You know,
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Speaker 3: I think that's the thing that really keeps you going.
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Speaker 3: It has to be about something more than just the art.
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Speaker 3: It can't just be about because you love it. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: you know, because at the end of the day, it
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Speaker 3: is a business and it is a job. Yeah, and
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Speaker 3: you have a responsibility, right, your responsibility, right, you have
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Speaker 3: millions of dollars are being burned on the set just
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Speaker 3: so you can say your lines. Yeah, put it that way.
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Speaker 3: You're carrying a lot, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man. I had a family emergency
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Speaker 1: when I was doing that show, and I postponed it
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Speaker 1: because I felt this deep sense of responsibility on my shoulder.
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Speaker 1: You know. I was like, oh, man, if I leave now,
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Speaker 1: shut production, that's a couple hundred gram more than that
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Speaker 1: per episode, like per day. Like I just I just
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Speaker 1: felt this deep sense of responsibility on my shoulder. Man.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if that comes with like the
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Speaker 1: way we grew up, right, Like, you know, we we
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Speaker 1: grew up with such a deep sense of responsibility in
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Speaker 1: whatever we do. But I feel that now, man, no
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Speaker 1: matter what problem, no matter how burned out. I feel
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Speaker 1: no matter how tired I am, I just you know,
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Speaker 1: I just feel like I signed up for this thing.
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Speaker 1: They're putting their trust in me. It's my job to deliver,
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Speaker 1: you know, no matter what age, no matter what, how
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Speaker 1: many hours, nothing.
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Speaker 3: I just know the fans are watching, and you know,
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Speaker 3: you want to give them the best possible show and
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Speaker 3: all that.
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Speaker 1: And they expect to expect that many they you know,
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Speaker 1: they've been watching you for thirty years, right, so they're like,
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Speaker 1: I expect to see something from Wilburg. I expect to
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Speaker 1: see a level of performance and quality.
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Speaker 2: And care and invest all of that.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you could phone it in. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure you could, like you know, you could do all
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Speaker 1: that stuff, but but the fans expect more of you.
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Speaker 3: What do you want to do next? Like, got you
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Speaker 3: open to doing a show for twenty eighthisodes again?
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Speaker 1: I would, man, I would.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're in great ship, you were broken, you're
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Speaker 3: killing it, And I would, yeah, yeah, you know a
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Speaker 3: head full.
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Speaker 2: Of hair, Yes, I still got it, it's still there.
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Speaker 1: I would, man, I would. I would because of my
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Speaker 1: last experience with with those very people that we just
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Speaker 1: talked about over at CBS. You know, I just so
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Speaker 1: appreciated the way singer handler or ensemble. I it's more
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Speaker 1: about the It's more about the project and the and
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Speaker 1: the character.
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Speaker 2: I get it.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the technical weight that you have to
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Speaker 3: carry because if you're you're, if you're like the center
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Speaker 3: of the boaster.
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Speaker 1: I'd be open to all of it. Okay, good, I'd
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Speaker 1: be open to all of it as long as as
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Speaker 1: long as I had the same kind of team behind
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Speaker 1: me that I had that was supporting me. Because it's
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Speaker 1: so hard. It's so hard to do you you need
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Speaker 1: a team like that that that believes and supports you.
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Speaker 1: As long as I had that, Yeah, I would. I
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Speaker 1: would venture off into doing that again.
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Speaker 2: Amazing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I still have the stamina for it. Man,
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Speaker 1: I could still do it.
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Speaker 3: Well, your baby, baby, Well, come on, man, that you
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Speaker 3: know it happen.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: What, Well, what will be the character you want to
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Speaker 2: play next? I know you're open, but yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 1: Know, man, that's a good that's a good question.
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Speaker 2: Do you want to do some action?
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Speaker 1: I do? I still I love doing I you know,
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Speaker 1: I did a little action here in there. I loved it.
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Speaker 1: You know, did the lawyer thing. Loved it. I you know,
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Speaker 1: as long as I could. As long as I can
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Speaker 1: do something with the character, that's all that matters to me.
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Speaker 2: Doctor.
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Speaker 3: I would, Yeah, because you speak English, I don't, so
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Speaker 3: I won't do it.
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Speaker 1: I would, I won't be doing that. But I welcome.
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Speaker 1: I welcomed the burnout, you know, like I know it.
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Speaker 1: Throughout our careers, there may have been times where you're like, oh, no,
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Speaker 1: I would do this. I wouldn't do this. Has there
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Speaker 1: ever been a project that you've that you've passed on
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Speaker 1: because you were so burned out you were just like,
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Speaker 1: I just can't I don't have the staminaugh for it
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Speaker 1: right now.
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Speaker 3: No, there's shows that didn't go that I that I
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Speaker 3: was like, I was ready to lock in. Yeah, Like
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Speaker 3: I did this show where I play a coronel and
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Speaker 3: I was a military show and I was just excited
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Speaker 3: to just be covering dust and gunpowder.
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Speaker 2: I just want to go and do that. So I
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Speaker 2: was locked in reder to go in great shape and
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Speaker 2: all that. But it didn't go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but but you were ready to. You were you
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Speaker 1: didn't feel like ah man.
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Speaker 2: But fatigue is.
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Speaker 3: I mean sort where the fatigue gets a little concerning
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Speaker 3: is in that sometimes these jobs take the best out
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Speaker 3: of us, and then you come home and you have
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Speaker 3: to muster the little bit of best. You have to
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Speaker 3: make sure your family has all of you. And that,
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Speaker 3: to me is the concerning part. And I'm playing with
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Speaker 3: that balance, you know, because during the day you're at
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Speaker 3: one hundred, right then you come home and you're probably
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Speaker 3: feeling fifteen percent. You're seventeen percent when you come home,
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Speaker 3: and you gotta prove you gotta turn that up. You
17:59
Speaker 3: gotta chase your kids, you gotta you know how, and
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Speaker 3: you got taught.
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Speaker 2: To your lady. You know you got I mean, you're
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Speaker 2: you're changing in many ways.
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Speaker 3: It keeps you young, right, like you're like just fucking
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Speaker 3: getting it, just giving the game, you know. Yeah, but
18:14
Speaker 3: but that kind of stuff is something you gotta and again,
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Speaker 3: you gotta find that balance, if you know, you talk
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Speaker 3: about longevity, you know, and how are you going to
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Speaker 3: take care of yourself to go? But you know, then
18:23
Speaker 3: you see people like you know, Anthony Hopkins, Yeah, they're
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Speaker 3: doing he's doing Marvel movies. He's doing like yeah, like
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Speaker 3: you like, how how are you hanging on that hard?
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Speaker 2: And you know what it.
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Speaker 3: Is it's still play for him. Yeah right, So I
18:42
Speaker 3: didn't think about like that. We just can't forget. And
18:44
Speaker 3: again this who comes now straight up to everybody who's
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Speaker 3: experiencing that dilemma, Like, I've been doing this job for
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Speaker 3: this much, but you gotta go back to what was
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Speaker 3: fun about it, yeah right, and like you gotta continue
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Speaker 3: to cultivate that fun part of the job to make
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Speaker 3: sure that that's the thing that keeps you awake, the
19:03
Speaker 3: thing that keeps you engaged. Yeah right, that's the toughest part, right,
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Speaker 3: because you gotta you gotta remember why you started, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Because imagine being a part of a job, whatever
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Speaker 1: it is, right, it doesn't even have to be like
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Speaker 1: a TV show. It could be whatever. Imagine being a
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Speaker 1: part of something where you're you're you're giving it everything.
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Speaker 1: You're experiencing burnout. Yeah, and you hate it, right, you
19:25
Speaker 1: hate every aspect of it. I mean that's what really
19:29
Speaker 1: exacerbates the burnout, I think in my opinion, you know,
19:34
Speaker 1: I I you know, it's funny, there was there was
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Speaker 1: a job that that I didn't take, uh because I
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Speaker 1: was burned out. I had uh, I had taken I
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Speaker 1: had you know, I was coming off of, you know,
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Speaker 1: a string of of of movies and a TV show
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Speaker 1: and I was just so I was just so tired, man,
19:54
Speaker 1: I was so tired. And I and I remember, oh,
19:56
Speaker 1: it was right after that time I saw you in
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Speaker 1: London and I got home and I think I was
20:02
Speaker 1: I was promoting because I went to London at that
20:04
Speaker 1: time I saw you, and I was promoting a movie
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Speaker 1: out there, and I was just so exhausted. Man, I
20:08
Speaker 1: was coming off of this run and uh. And I
20:13
Speaker 1: had a meeting with Catherine Bigelow for the hurt Locker. Now,
20:19
Speaker 1: mind you, I didn't know it was going to be
20:21
Speaker 1: the hurt Locker as we know it today, right. I
20:26
Speaker 1: had a meeting with her because it was a small
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Speaker 1: indie movie that she wanted to do in Morocco. And
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Speaker 1: I had talked to a couple of my active friends
20:35
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, how is Morocco. They're like, oh, man,
20:38
Speaker 1: we got we got food poisoning when we were there
20:40
Speaker 1: and the water was terrible. Like they just did not
20:43
Speaker 1: have great things to say about it. Right, And so
20:46
Speaker 1: we had a meeting and we and we vibed and
20:49
Speaker 1: she was like, well, I'd love for you to be
20:50
Speaker 1: a part of this, you know. And I was like, Okay,
20:53
Speaker 1: I haven't seen my kids and like in like a month,
20:57
Speaker 1: like I've been working non stop, Like do I really
20:59
Speaker 1: want to go to my rocco on some like indie
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Speaker 1: movie and get food poisoning and be away from the kids,
21:05
Speaker 1: And like, I was so burned out. And then I
21:08
Speaker 1: got offered Ugly Betty and.
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Speaker 2: So and I shot here.
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Speaker 1: It shot here, and I was like, oh me, a
21:16
Speaker 1: romantic comedy after all of the stuff that I was
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Speaker 1: doing back then, all the gritty indie movies and the
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Speaker 1: TV show. And I was just flattered that that that
21:24
Speaker 1: ABC saw me as like a romantic lead. And so
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Speaker 1: I took Ugly Betty instead of this small indie movie
21:32
Speaker 1: that was in Morocco. And then the movie come out,
21:35
Speaker 1: comes out and it's magnificent, and.
21:39
Speaker 2: You would I'm going with this and a guy.
21:41
Speaker 1: And then Jeremy Renner got nominated for an Oscar and
21:44
Speaker 1: the whole movie did, and I was like, oh man, wow,
21:46
Speaker 1: I can't believe I didn't do that thing, but you know,
21:49
Speaker 1: it would have been awesome. It's just is it, you know,
21:52
Speaker 1: just a testament? And it was.
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Speaker 3: But also it was a pop cultural phenomenal in culture,
21:58
Speaker 3: had too, and I also.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, no, I had I had at an
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Speaker 4: incredible time. I think it was the right gamble America
22:05
Speaker 4: for era, and and all of them were just so lovely,
22:09
Speaker 4: lovely people to work with, you know.
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Speaker 1: But that was the wood job as we as, this
22:14
Speaker 1: conversation revolves around burnout and fatigue, and I was like,
22:19
Speaker 1: I was like, I just don't have an any man
22:21
Speaker 1: and you know, kids and all.
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Speaker 3: That stuff, and so yeah, priorities, right, You've got to
22:26
Speaker 3: make sure that you have a list of priorities. What
22:29
Speaker 3: are the things that you're willing to live with, what
22:31
Speaker 3: are the things you're willing to live without? Yeah, but no, look,
22:34
Speaker 3: it's a great reminder for everybody, everybody's who's listening that
22:38
Speaker 3: it's you know, you have to make some early choices
22:41
Speaker 3: that allow you to have that you know, that runway.
22:45
Speaker 3: You got to pace yourself, but you got to give
22:47
Speaker 3: it all at the same time. It's in a very annoying equation. Yeah,
22:52
Speaker 3: but make sure you save some in the tank for
22:54
Speaker 3: the things that you're working for.
22:56
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and you know, and sometimes that may not
22:59
Speaker 1: even be the main I think you're doing right, Like,
23:01
Speaker 1: like sometimes you're working a nine to five, right and
23:06
Speaker 1: there may be something that you feel passionate about you
23:09
Speaker 1: to do all your off time. That that thing is
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Speaker 1: what fills the void. That's what makes the nine to
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Speaker 1: five tolerable. And so it's it's important that you're not
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Speaker 1: allowing the nine to five to burn you out so much.
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Speaker 2: That you don't get to do the thing that tells
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Speaker 2: the void. That's great, that's a great reminder. Well, on
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Speaker 2: that note, this is a woman of ot the Romance.
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Speaker 1: It's Freddy Rodriguez.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.
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Speaker 3: I hope that whatever we discuss here creates a little
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Speaker 3: bit of that light in that dark room so you
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Speaker 3: can find, you know, you can find the way out
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Speaker 3: of it and into the sun again, and you can
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Speaker 3: enjoy what you are and what you want to be
23:46
Speaker 3: and where you're gonna go next.
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Speaker 2: So this is Dose Amigos, and I see you on
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