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Story of Toys Continues - Toy Story 2 and Being Fuddled · I Hate Talking

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I Hate Talking: Welcome to episode 115 of I Hate Talking.
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I Hate Talking: Hi everyone.
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I Hate Talking: So we haven't gotten much response on acronyms, so I guess people are not a fan of acronyms.
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I Hate Talking: I guess not.
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I Hate Talking: They would rather hear definitions and etymologies of words.
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I Hate Talking: OK.
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I Hate Talking: So, what is our word or phrase of this episode?
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, well, what's the topic?
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I Hate Talking: -- What's -- the topic?
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I Hate Talking: The topic, of course, is Toy Story 2.
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I Hate Talking: Oh, OK.
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I Hate Talking: We could do a Ryan Trahan word.
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I Hate Talking: What was his words?
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I Hate Talking: He likes to start doing definitions now.
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I Hate Talking: Does he?
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, I forget what he did for his words.
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I Hate Talking: Befuddled.
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I Hate Talking: That was one of his words.
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I Hate Talking: It's a good one.
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I Hate Talking: -- It's a -- good one.
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I Hate Talking: Now I am curious what befuddled is like.
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I Hate Talking: I know the definition, but I have no idea what the etymology would be.
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I Hate Talking: OK, so I think it's, it's gonna be befuddled because befuddled is leaving me a little bit befuddled on the definition, not the definition.
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I Hate Talking: The etymology, we're doing it.
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I Hate Talking: We're doing it.
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I Hate Talking: Episode 115 right here.
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I Hate Talking: So befuddled.
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I Hate Talking: Have you heard or used this word yourself?
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I Hate Talking: Yes, ironical, not really used it, but ironically, when I was an elementary school student, there was a college guy at our church.
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I Hate Talking: And one time he said that me and my friend befuddled him.
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I Hate Talking: And we were like, I remember it stopped us in our tracks, and we were like, what?
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I Hate Talking: Is that a bad word?
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I Hate Talking: Like is that, uh, and he's like, no, it just means confused, you guys confuse me.
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I Hate Talking: And then he started doing words of the week, every week, we learned that one and uh he had a whole list of words every week he would teach us a new one and befuddled was the very first part of it.
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I Hate Talking: -- And -- he did this on a podcast.
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I Hate Talking: No, I don't think podcasts were a theme back then.
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I Hate Talking: This would have been like, I don't know, 92, 93 or so.
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I Hate Talking: I see.
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I Hate Talking: So it was just in person, in person, yes, at church, -- yeah about -- that.
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I Hate Talking: Back in the day before the internet connected us all through podcasts, so befuddled as defined by apparently.
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I Hate Talking: The new version of the collaborative International Dictionary of English.
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I Hate Talking: This is strange.
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I Hate Talking: So duck duck duck go apparently does not.
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I Hate Talking: Linked to our favorite.
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I Hate Talking: American Heritage Dictionary 5th edition anymore.
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I Hate Talking: It went to the new version, spelled G N U.
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I Hate Talking: Ah So we can check Merriam-Webster's, I guess I'll have to look for, let's check American Heritage Dictionary.
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I Hate Talking: So, the American Heritage Dictionary does have an entry for befuddled.
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I Hate Talking: So, for some reason, duck ducko has either changed their dictionary or for this particular word is not linking to that one.
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I Hate Talking: But according to the American Heritage Dictionary, there are two definitions.
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I Hate Talking: It is number 1.
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I Hate Talking: To cause someone to be unable to think clearly, confused, or confused.
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I Hate Talking: And then to stupefy or to be intoxicated, befuddled, stupefy, that's a Harry Potter curse, right?
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I Hate Talking: I suppose so.
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I Hate Talking: Well, it's based on a real word though.
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I Hate Talking: I mean, I guess most of them are.
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I Hate Talking: They're just sort of.
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I Hate Talking: Transliterations of some sort.
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I Hate Talking: So now on to the thing that has befuddled me, which is the etymology, -- the etymology of -- befuddled.
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I Hate Talking: I think it's English.
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I Hate Talking: Just pure English, no Greek or Latin roots in this one.
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I Hate Talking: Sure, that's what I'm gonna stick with.
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I Hate Talking: That's, so according to Etymology online.
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I Hate Talking: It was Purely from English in 1873.
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I Hate Talking: Wow, look at that.
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I Hate Talking: And it was originally used.
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I Hate Talking: In reference to confusing someone with strong drink or opium.
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I Hate Talking: And it was just the combination of two words, be and fuddle.
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I Hate Talking: So, and then fuddle became used in the.
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I Hate Talking: 1580s to become intoxicated.
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I Hate Talking: Oh, OK.
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I Hate Talking: And then it was used in the 1600s all the way up through the 1800s, and then it seems like the fuddle sort of has replaced this and fuddle is not used anymore.
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I Hate Talking: OK.
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I Hate Talking: So it literally was to be.
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I Hate Talking: Intoxicated.
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I Hate Talking: Which would You're confused if you're intoxicated, right?
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I Hate Talking: So, be intoxicated, then they changed it and it's just be confused now.
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I Hate Talking: Yes, there are some theories that the original word fuddle in the 1500s came from a Germanic word fuddling, which means to work in a slovenly manner.
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I Hate Talking: Hm, do you ever use the word?
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I Hate Talking: In an actual conversation.
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I Hate Talking: No, I don't think so.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, now, again, the only time I ever really heard it.
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I Hate Talking: Or if I do hear about it, I always go back to that time in elementary school.
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I Hate Talking: When I said, I was told I befuddled people.
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I Hate Talking: Well, there you go.
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I Hate Talking: So, now you need not be befuddled by the word befuddled.
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I Hate Talking: You know, the definition and the etymology, which is more than Ryan Trahan provided.
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I Hate Talking: He just said, OK.
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I Hate Talking: Is that a new thing he's doing?
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I Hate Talking: I don't know.
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I Hate Talking: It was, it was just in one video, so I don't know if it's a trend.
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I Hate Talking: Oh, OK, interesting.
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I Hate Talking: Maybe he's copying us.
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I Hate Talking: Would that be so cool?
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I Hate Talking: Oh, I'm such a big fan of him.
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I Hate Talking: If he listened to us.
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I Hate Talking: Oh man.
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I Hate Talking: Also, a large percentage of like relatively.
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I Hate Talking: A large percentage of your paycheck goes to support him with joyride candies, so he really owes us.
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I Hate Talking: That's pretty much the only candy we buy nowadays.
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I Hate Talking: That's true.
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I Hate Talking: -- You still get chocolate -- though.
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I Hate Talking: I do.
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I Hate Talking: Oh, I, yeah, once he starts making chocolate, maybe I'll switch over completely.
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I Hate Talking: But no, the kids are fine with not having chocolate, and you are fine without chocolate too, usually, right?
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, usually, -- but -- no, I really love chocolate.
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I Hate Talking: So as I alluded to, Toy Story 2, we have since watched that since our Mini Toy Story 1 recap.
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I Hate Talking: So, any particular takeaways about Toy Story 2?
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I Hate Talking: My biggest takeaway was how much of that.
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I Hate Talking: was ingrained in my brain.
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I Hate Talking: I knew more about Toy Story 2, like I could say the words right along with them, or before they said them, the lines.
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I Hate Talking: Um, I knew it much more instinctively than I knew Toy Story one.
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I Hate Talking: And I don't know, I was trying to think about if maybe when I used a nanny, if that was the time frame.
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I Hate Talking: Where we watched that one, maybe.
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I Hate Talking: I, it doesn't seem to line up though, so I don't know why Toy Story 2 is so ingrained in my memory.
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I Hate Talking: More than one.
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I Hate Talking: I think Toy Story one was a little bit maybe more original in concept.
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I Hate Talking: And Toy Story 2 had perhaps more one-liners and sort of Quote unquote rip-offs or callbacks to other movies.
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I Hate Talking: OK.
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I Hate Talking: Because there's a lot of Star Wars references for one.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, a lot of Star Wars.
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I Hate Talking: What else is there?
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I Hate Talking: I mean there definitely was like a theme to the story, which spoiler alerts ahead I guess because we're gonna describe some of the particular storyline.
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I Hate Talking: So if you haven't seen Story Story 2 by now, then.
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I Hate Talking: It's, you've had a pretty long chance.
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I Hate Talking: That's quite a while, quite a while, but you can stop it now and go watch it and then come back.
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I Hate Talking: But you've had.
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I Hate Talking: Almost 30 years, so that's true because they have to.
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I Hate Talking: Rescue Woody from the person that is working at the toy store that is also some sort of collector slash reseller and has the entire Woody's collection now that he has stolen Woody, so they have to go rescue him.
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I Hate Talking: That's really it.
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I Hate Talking: That's the whole plot.
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I Hate Talking: There's not really much more to that, so there's not like.
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I Hate Talking: Self-awareness Being a thing with toys becoming self-aware or Different particular people that have different intent and desires like The kid that wants to blow everything up, Sid, and All the different toys that are perhaps not quite aligned in Toy Story 1, but they definitely seem more aligned in Toy Story 2, which I think perhaps detracts a bit from the overall arching storyline and perhaps makes that more memorable for the one-liners and different scenarios that.
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I Hate Talking: Do you remember more than one also?
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, I suppose so.
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I Hate Talking: A lot more seemed familiar, I suppose, in Toy Story 2.
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I Hate Talking: Interesting.
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I Hate Talking: Um, Yeah, I mean, but the overall concept, right, is like Woody gets broken.
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I Hate Talking: And then he thinks he's getting discarded for good.
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I Hate Talking: The bad guy tries to buy him at the yard sale.
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I Hate Talking: And the mom says no, and so he steals them.
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I Hate Talking: So it's a whole concept, right, where Woody then decide, has to decide if he wants to become a collector and famous, or go back to his owner.
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I Hate Talking: So that's a whole like arc, right, that he has to.
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I Hate Talking: Choose which path to take.
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I Hate Talking: That's true.
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I Hate Talking: And the prospector is already self-aware, even though supposedly he's never been unboxed, but he has been, but he has been.
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I Hate Talking: But did somebody play with him and imbue with him the magic of toy liveliness like we discussed in our Toy Story one episode?
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I Hate Talking: Oh.
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I Hate Talking: Um, no, he's so bitter that I think that he was never actually a child's toy.
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I Hate Talking: But a child must have imagined him as a character in something, so self-aware, to be self-aware, because, OK, let's talk about that on that topic, the horse.
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I Hate Talking: What's his name?
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I Hate Talking: Um, Bull's eye, bull's eye ride like the wind, bull's eye.
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I Hate Talking: See, that's another like one-liner that you can remember.
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I Hate Talking: Those things don't really exist in Toy Story one.
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I Hate Talking: I mean, I guess there is like to Infinity beyond, but that's like their specific sort of motto.
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I Hate Talking: -- There's a snake -- in my boot.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, the songs in one are more iconic, I think, than the lines.
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I Hate Talking: That's true.
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I Hate Talking: But bullseye.
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I Hate Talking: Is a pet to them.
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I Hate Talking: He is not a main character.
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I Hate Talking: That's interesting.
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I Hate Talking: That's true, he does not speak.
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I Hate Talking: So comparative to T.
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I Hate Talking: rex, where T.
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I Hate Talking: rex can speak, so.
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I Hate Talking: In the theory of kids' magic, basically.
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I Hate Talking: Kids would think that the T.
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I Hate Talking: rex is a Person and sort of that sort of characteristic about that particular character versus Bullseye being strictly an animal.
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I Hate Talking: Right.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, I did think that was interesting that He interacted with them, but he was always their pet.
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I Hate Talking: Right, but I'm still hung up on the prospector being self-aware.
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I Hate Talking: He must have been played with as a plaything, right?
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I Hate Talking: Isn't that true?
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I Hate Talking: Because Kids would have thought that Buzz Lightyear was a person and had person-like characteristics.
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I Hate Talking: In order for Buzz to be alive.
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I Hate Talking: But he was not self-aware as a toy when he was unboxed both times, because there's two buzzes that make an appearance in Toy Story 2, the original one from Toy Story 1, that is self-aware that he is a toy, a child's plaything, and then the new buzz that is Unboxed and is not self-aware that he's a toy, right.
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I Hate Talking: So I guess it's not so much the aliveness of the toy that I'm questioning, but more of the self-awareness that they are a toy.
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I Hate Talking: OK, I, I mean, I follow you, I'm tracking it.
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I Hate Talking: I can get on board with that theory.
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I Hate Talking: Also, obviously the uh chicken guy, the collector.
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I Hate Talking: He obviously is not an honest man cause he stole Woody, and then he hired somebody to make Woody look brand new, like paint over him and all that.
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I Hate Talking: And claimed he was brand new.
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I Hate Talking: So I mean, I don't put it past him to do the same thing to the prospector.
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I Hate Talking: So, your theory is that the chicken man, AKA Toy salesman worker, AKA collector, reseller, unboxed prospector, played with him as a plaything, and that made the prospector not only alive but also self-aware that he was a toy.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, I mean, I don't think he played with them.
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I Hate Talking: I think that he collected him from something.
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I Hate Talking: I see, but wouldn't the prospector disclose this, or he's so No, I think it gives him more value.
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I Hate Talking: I think maybe he's so bitter because he wasn't a preferred toy.
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I Hate Talking: He knew that Jesse and Woody.
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I Hate Talking: We always the main characters, and he was just like the side person.
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I Hate Talking: So I think that even if some kid had the whole set originally, he was never the one that the kid would take places and befriend.
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I Hate Talking: So I think he was always bitter, so this made him special that he was never unboxed.
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I Hate Talking: And uh so that gave him a little ego boost and Something he could hold over them.
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I Hate Talking: I see.
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I Hate Talking: So he would have been part of the set and at least seen a kid play with the other characters, and that is what made himself aware that he was a toy.
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I Hate Talking: And that's why his box is so nice is because he was opened and but wasn't really played with because he's not one of the fun characters.
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I Hate Talking: So then he gets bitter watching the kid play with Jesse and Woody.
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I Hate Talking: And then when he gets sold or discarded.
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I Hate Talking: His, um, cause you definitely right.
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I Hate Talking: Some of your toys you play with, you would keep in the box, I bet, huh, as a kid.
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I Hate Talking: I never did.
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I Hate Talking: The box always immediately got thrown in the trash.
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I Hate Talking: I don't think so.
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I Hate Talking: -- You never kept -- anything.
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I Hate Talking: I mean, I kept the boxes, but the toys stayed out of the boxes, OK, you still kept, I kept the boxes still to this day, the boxes are, yeah, they're in storage.
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I Hate Talking: We have boxes of boxes.
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I Hate Talking: But no, I 100% always break everything down and even as a kid, ripped it open, threw it away.
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I Hate Talking: But I could definitely see you.
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I Hate Talking: Keeping the box whether you put them in it after you play with them or you just keep the box for the future.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, the majority of boxes that I kept were Lego boxes though because they, even at that time, Legos had a significant holding value.
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I Hate Talking: And resale value as a collectible item.
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I Hate Talking: So it was sort of standard process to keep the instruction booklets and keep the boxes.
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I Hate Talking: But don't you see too that like if he knew the prospector was never given uh a connection with a kid necessarily like a real connection, why he'd be so bitter and upset because Jesse has memories of her, was it Emily, I think Emily was her owner.
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I Hate Talking: And then Woody has Andy.
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I Hate Talking: So they have all these loving memories and bonds where he's always bitter.
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I Hate Talking: And so this was one thing he had his box, so he could hold that over their head.
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I Hate Talking: I suppose so.
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I Hate Talking: Could be.
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I Hate Talking: So there you go.
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I Hate Talking: Maybe we have a brand new internet fan theory that The prospector became self-aware.
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I Hate Talking: That he was a toy by seeing other toys within the set be played with by a child, so you think he never was opened because I think he was, -- or -- he was opened and played with very infrequently, you're saying.
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I Hate Talking: That's what I think, but you think he was never ever opened.
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I Hate Talking: He was, well, I mean, I suppose somebody would have had to open him to for him to get out of his box by himself.
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I Hate Talking: Because like all the little drawstrings and everything that hold a toy in place in their display box, I doubt he would be able to undo that himself.
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I Hate Talking: So if it was undone by somebody and then maybe put back, not in the exact same manner, then he could unbox himself, so to speak.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, cause even think of when the buzz, the real buzz it's put in a box.
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I Hate Talking: He isn't manufacturly installed into it, but he has put in and how hard it was for him to get out.
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I Hate Talking: Well, that's just the miracle of modern-day packaging.
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I Hate Talking: Because there was a pretty significant time gap between Woody and Buzz, right?
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I Hate Talking: Yes.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, right.
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I Hate Talking: Was the Woody show in black and white or color?
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I Hate Talking: Hm, I think black and white or like maybe beige that's what I wanna say like it was -- when that in -- between in between a little bit of you say I'll look it up.
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I Hate Talking: I don't think it was black and white.
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I Hate Talking: I remember there being some color, kind of color, but you're correct.
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I Hate Talking: Maybe it was sort of like that.
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I Hate Talking: monotone, brown color, or like a two-tone type thing and not full color.
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I Hate Talking: I don't know, it's really hard when you just, I googled Woody's Roundup, which is what the show is called, you know, obviously pretend show, but some stuff is very elaborate coloring, I think that's more modern.
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I Hate Talking: When there's a screen of the video, it's in black and white.
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I Hate Talking: I don't know though.
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I Hate Talking: I don't.
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I Hate Talking: What do you think?
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I Hate Talking: It does look black and white.
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I Hate Talking: I don't remember it being black and white.
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I Hate Talking: I think the lunchbox is maybe what I'm thinking of.
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I Hate Talking: The lunchbox is sort of this brown monotone color, right, yeah, that's kind of, which I think that also counts as black and white, right?
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I Hate Talking: Where it's Instead of black, though, it's more of the brownish colors.
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I Hate Talking: Correct, yep, Woody's Roundup, definitely black and white when the TV version is shown.
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I Hate Talking: I won't sing it to spare everyone's ears, but all I have is Woody's Roundup theme song in my head now.
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I Hate Talking: So my little sister.
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I Hate Talking: Um, oh, OK.
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I Hate Talking: She listens or someone else listens and sent it to her, I think is actually what happened.
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I Hate Talking: She sent me a picture of her.
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I Hate Talking: Rock Baby doll Artie.
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I Hate Talking: She still has it.
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I Hate Talking: Uh, last time we talked about Toy Story, I mentioned her rock named Artie.
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I Hate Talking: And so yep, sure enough, she still has it.
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I Hate Talking: She sent me a photo.
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I Hate Talking: It was so funny to see.
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I Hate Talking: But she was really into Jessie.
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I Hate Talking: That was her.
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I Hate Talking: Character For most of her childhood that she was really, really into and maybe that's why I knew she's a couple of years younger.
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I Hate Talking: But maybe that's why Toy Story 2 sticks in my head so much more than 1, because if she was really into Toy Story 2 with Jessie.
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I Hate Talking: We maybe watched it in the house more.
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I Hate Talking: There you go.
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I Hate Talking: That could be.
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I Hate Talking: So which one do you like better, 1 or 2?
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I Hate Talking: One feels like just a more organic story.
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I Hate Talking: That I think I like 1, more from a story perspective.
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I Hate Talking: 2 is like more memorable, but I think that's not necessarily for the fact that the storyline, but more just what happens during the story with like all the callbacks to Star Wars and other one-liner type things.
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I Hate Talking: Do you think that when you say organic, do you mean just like original?
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I Hate Talking: Yes, yeah, original, unique, yes.
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I Hate Talking: And it doesn't, yeah, no, I mean, organic as well though, like it's an organic storyline where it develops upon itself and it's not necessarily trying to shove one-liners and callbacks into the plot just for laughs.
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I Hate Talking: But I think that, yeah, and I think you're right to play towards the audience and maybe towards adults more with the jokes that they had.
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I Hate Talking: Obviously they were still kid friendly, but I think they knew that their audience was adults also, so they interacted with that more and I think 2 by the time 2 came around, they knew that they had something they kind of set it up so there's another one coming where 1.
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I Hate Talking: I'm not sure if they had planned like maybe like, oh, if this goes good, we'll have it in a second, but I don't think that they ended it knowing this is gonna be a multi-episode.
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I Hate Talking: -- I think -- I, I agree.
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I Hate Talking: So, color TV first launched in 1963.
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I Hate Talking: So, it would have been at least before that.
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I Hate Talking: And interesting to note that Mattel launched the first doll with a pull string mechanism in 1959.
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I Hate Talking: Oh, OK, so I mean, theoretically.
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I Hate Talking: Woody then would be created between 59 and 63.
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I Hate Talking: Is that where -- we stance on how old Woody -- is?
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I Hate Talking: Yes, in the Toy Story universe, I suppose so.
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I Hate Talking: And then Toy Story one, according to fan theories, would have been placed in 1995.
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I Hate Talking: For what?
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I Hate Talking: Toy Story one.
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I Hate Talking: 1995.
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I Hate Talking: Right, that's when it was created.
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I Hate Talking: No, OK, say that again.
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I Hate Talking: This is because of the fact that there is Andy's mom's license plate in one of the shots, and it expires in November of 1995.
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I Hate Talking: Oh, and that was episode one.
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I Hate Talking: You're saying that was movie number one movie one, and it's not movies.
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I Hate Talking: When did it actually air?
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I Hate Talking: Also, what state was it?
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I Hate Talking: Because some states, they last longer, right?
22:59
I Hate Talking: Some are yearly, some are every 2 years or so.
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I Hate Talking: Right, but it would have to be at least November 1995 or earlier, right?
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I Hate Talking: So it could have been 1994 and she had an expired sticker on there, or you're saying it could have been, I see what you're saying, you're saying it could have been 1997 and she was driving for two years with an expired sticker.
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I Hate Talking: No, no, no, no, I'm saying earlier than that, that you, it's a new sticker.
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I Hate Talking: And she's got 2 years left on that sticker.
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I Hate Talking: Well, Toy Story 1 was released in the United States on November 22, 1990, the same date as the expiration of the license plate.
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I Hate Talking: Well, she had a lot going on with the move and everything.
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I Hate Talking: Personally, from experience, I know that when you're doing a move, that's hard to keep track of that stuff.
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I Hate Talking: But I hope she got that sticker and renewed it.
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I Hate Talking: Also, I hope they moved in-state.
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I Hate Talking: Because otherwise that's gonna expire before she changes it in a different state.
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I Hate Talking: That's true, man.
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I Hate Talking: That's interesting.
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I Hate Talking: OK, so 95 is when it aired.
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I Hate Talking: And that's when it's supposed to set, and who I think he said that he was 10, right?
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I Hate Talking: Is that what the story was?
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I Hate Talking: The Andy's birthday.
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I Hate Talking: -- So he -- was born in 85.
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I Hate Talking: No, he was, it was only his sixth birthday.
24:17
I Hate Talking: Oh wow.
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I Hate Talking: He looks older than 6, but they were not very good at human animation, I suppose.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, but also I think that would be something that I would have made an error in the previous one.
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I Hate Talking: I think I said he was 10.
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I Hate Talking: Like I heard that before.
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I Hate Talking: Remember I was like, our 10 year old doesn't play with toys like that.
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I Hate Talking: He six year old does, so that makes sense.
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I Hate Talking: This is also corroborated by the fact that tour guide Barbie.
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I Hate Talking: Refers to retailers not ordering enough Buzz Lightyear.
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I Hate Talking: To meet demand in 1995, they didn't order enough Buzz Lightyear, right?
24:53
I Hate Talking: That's why it was so hard to get a Buzz Lightyear for Andy's birthday, not in real life in this story, in the buzz in the Toy Story universe.
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I Hate Talking: I thought their decision to call back to something that actually happened.
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I Hate Talking: The tour guide Barbie, remember when she is touring around and they go down the Buzz Lightyear aisle and they have hundreds and hundreds of buzzes, and she says the story.
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I Hate Talking: She gives the fact.
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I Hate Talking: I thought you're looking at your phone.
25:15
I Hate Talking: I thought you were reading.
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I Hate Talking: I'm just very good at reading facts about Toy Story multiverse.
25:21
I Hate Talking: Well, I looked at my internet and I asked them when Woody's Roundup was created, and you wanna hear what it says?
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I Hate Talking: What's it say?
25:30
I Hate Talking: My, I, we've talked about AI before, right?
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I Hate Talking: How I like it.
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I Hate Talking: Sometimes I think it has such low.
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I Hate Talking: Expectations or uh opinions of me as the user.
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I Hate Talking: Because it very nicely tells me, Woody's Roundup was in fact a fictional 1950s child's puppet western television show in the Toy Story universe.
25:54
I Hate Talking: The series originally debuted originally.
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I Hate Talking: Reputed Debated.
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I Hate Talking: Oh no, debuted, debuted, I guess we got a word for next time.
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I Hate Talking: The series originally debuted in 1957 and ran for a single season, 13 episodes, before it was abruptly canceled due to the launch of Sputnik.
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I Hate Talking: That's right, Space twice.
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I Hate Talking: That's also why the prospector was sort of bitter, I suppose.
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I Hate Talking: Right, but the timeline doesn't line up.
26:35
I Hate Talking: Because if Sputnik and space toys became popular.
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I Hate Talking: In the late 50s, early 60s.
26:44
I Hate Talking: We're still saying this is like mid-nineties.
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I Hate Talking: Why was Andy so late to the game?
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I Hate Talking: Well, it's probably like his grandpa's toy or his dad's toy or something like that.
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I Hate Talking: We'll have to continue watching Toy Story 34, and 5 to see if there are any particular allusions to his dad or anything.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, I don't really have many memories from 3 and 4 Well, there's like the teddy bear thing, right?
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I Hate Talking: I feel like that's the toy that.
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I Hate Talking: Is that the, I think that's 3.
27:14
I Hate Talking: I don't think I've, I may have not seen 4.
27:17
I Hate Talking: And then there's also Buzz Lightyear, like the standalone movie.
27:21
I Hate Talking: A lot of fans reject that as canon though, so.
27:24
I Hate Talking: And Bo Peep has one too.
27:27
I Hate Talking: So for the final observation and the final particular topic on this episode, the RC car remote, did you notice that in Toy Story 2?
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I Hate Talking: It's like in the very first scene.
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I Hate Talking: It's back.
27:41
I Hate Talking: The remote is there and it is being used to -- control the RC -- car.
27:46
I Hate Talking: Oh wait, so you got reunited.
27:48
I Hate Talking: I think it's just a either.
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I Hate Talking: Mistake With like a continuity error or somehow they recovered the remote or got a replacement.
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I Hate Talking: Maybe it's not even the same RC car.
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I Hate Talking: Oh, that'd be, I wonder how they address that when you get replacement toys.
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I Hate Talking: -- If they just pick up -- as well I think that's in Toy Story 3.
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I Hate Talking: That's, that's like the replacement movie.
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I Hate Talking: Well, that's what we'll watch next.
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I Hate Talking: Yeah, we're gonna have that this weekend or so to watch with the family.
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I Hate Talking: There you go.
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I Hate Talking: So, from your friends at I Hate Talking, until next time, remember, it is only through talking that we begin the journey to understanding.