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INTERVIEW: Devale Ellis and Crystal Renee Hayslett Talk 'Zatima', 'Sistas', Method Acting, Music Career + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: We got some special guests in the building.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, it seems like you're on every show right now. Gentlemen,
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  Speaker 2: the val Ellis and Crystal Hayes.
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  Speaker 3: Let welcome.
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  Speaker 2: For first of all, I want to slut y'all for
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  Speaker 2: getting here because listen traffic.
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  Speaker 1: And they had to pat everybody down there to walk
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  Speaker 1: the middle of Detective.
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  Speaker 5: Was like, I got to get there.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, what, I'm from New York, so this was
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  Speaker 6: easy for me. I was like, walk down fifty fifth
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  Speaker 6: We'll get there.
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  Speaker 5: Just two.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Season four.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, crazy Yes, two episodes in obviously the season
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  Speaker 7: air September eleventh. Yes, Tima, yes, the team absolutely, my bad.
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  Speaker 7: I'm going straight because so all right, I want to
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  Speaker 7: know why the storylines don't add.
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  Speaker 2: Up between Sisters, Joe, break down what's happening first for people?
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  Speaker 8: All Right, y'all, y'all, go ahead and break it down.
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  Speaker 6: So this is the biggest thing. This is a six
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  Speaker 6: month gap in between the Tima and Sisters. And this
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  Speaker 6: is what when people try to understand the show, I explained,
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  Speaker 6: like this, Sisters was about the four sisters and now
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  Speaker 6: the fifth. Zach's character was an ancillary character. He was
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  Speaker 6: an antagonist to Karen and then he became Fatima's love interests.
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  Speaker 6: So Zatima is the story about Zach and Fatima, and
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  Speaker 6: Sister is about what Zach was when he was with Karen.
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  Speaker 6: So there's like a six month gap in between. So
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  Speaker 6: when you watch the show simultaneously, you like, it don't
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  Speaker 6: make sense. She's pregnant in one she's not pregnant. Different storylines,
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  Speaker 6: different timelines. So Sisters is ahead, So when you see Zach,
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  Speaker 6: know the team is ahead Sisters.
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  Speaker 3: When Zack is acting crazy.
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  Speaker 6: He seemed like he ain't go through therapy yet because
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  Speaker 6: he hasn't on Sisters. That's why Zach on the Team
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  Speaker 6: is a lot more calm.
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  Speaker 3: He's been through therapy, comes back catch up.
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  Speaker 9: You need to.
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  Speaker 8: Because we've been talking about that. We gotta jump.
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  Speaker 10: There needs to be a time jump somewhere so that
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  Speaker 10: because it's the same audience, you know, so it needs
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  Speaker 10: to be cohesive.
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  Speaker 5: Why did he write it?
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes?
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  Speaker 6: I think you do for he wrote he shows it
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  Speaker 6: one time. But I think he had a plan for
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  Speaker 6: the team. I think he wanted it to be his
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  Speaker 6: own thing. He wanted to be separate. I don't think
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  Speaker 6: he expected to be honest. I don't think he expected
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  Speaker 6: Sisters to be on TV for this long. I we've
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  Speaker 6: done ten seasons already. Yeah, we've done two seasons already
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  Speaker 6: in six years. Like if you think about that's a
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  Speaker 6: lot of television.
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  Speaker 1: You don't stop.
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  Speaker 3: He's still going.
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  Speaker 9: But to have something on TV for six years and
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  Speaker 9: people are locked into the Sisters, Yeah, and they also
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  Speaker 9: are like caught audience about the team.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's so true.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, even the Andy situation, even a yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 7: want to give up, you know, the way. But it's
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  Speaker 7: like on Sisters, I mean, well, what on the teamer right,
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  Speaker 7: how she was jealous because the team of getting all
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  Speaker 7: of she was getting all attention from the NFL players,
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  Speaker 7: you know, help with the contracts and everything.
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  Speaker 1: She ain't getting no attention.
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  Speaker 3: But on you know, on the other show.
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  Speaker 7: You know, she Andy saved, I mean Zach saved Andy's life, you.
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  Speaker 8: Know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: When no, it's that's both the same show. This is
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  Speaker 3: why it's confusing.
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  Speaker 6: But going to your point exactly, people are confused because
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  Speaker 6: the two shows at the same time, and Andy was
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  Speaker 6: first like her homie, but now Fatima moving up. She
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  Speaker 6: was the girl who was the assistant, and she was
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  Speaker 6: the one that was behind the scenes. But now she's
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  Speaker 6: about to get her law degree, and I think Andy
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  Speaker 6: is a little bit jealous.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit like what you don't
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  Speaker 3: got time to do the stuff I want you to do.
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  Speaker 8: Because what she's working on is like really big.
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  Speaker 10: It's the case for Karen, that's and the doctor and
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  Speaker 10: how he's mishandling women in labor, So it's what she's
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  Speaker 10: working on is very important. I think Fatima is just
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  Speaker 10: getting caught up and actually growing and what she has
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  Speaker 10: going on and seeing like, wait, this is my chance.
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  Speaker 7: And it's real relatable because you do got real situations
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  Speaker 7: like that with groups and things like that. Do y'all
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  Speaker 7: have friends that hit y'all outside the show, like, yo,
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  Speaker 7: I went through that or right now at work?
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely? Yes, No, Absolutely.
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  Speaker 10: I feel like every season there's something, whether it's a
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  Speaker 10: friend or a fan that stops us and says I'm
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  Speaker 10: going through that right now or I've been through that.
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  Speaker 8: It's so relatable.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 6: I got two close friends that got three baby mothers
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  Speaker 6: who was just like Zach's story.
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  Speaker 3: And I have a friend particularly who.
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  Speaker 6: Broke up with his girl, got back with her, she
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  Speaker 6: got pregnant, and then it was like, dang, my new
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  Speaker 6: girl is pissed because my old girl is playing. And
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  Speaker 6: they still worked it out. Like the new girl and
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  Speaker 6: the old girl. They found a way to co parent together.
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  Speaker 6: Because not everybody is toxic. Some people find ways to
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  Speaker 6: make things work. So a lot of people are like, yo,
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  Speaker 6: watching y'all go through this was my life.
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  Speaker 5: You always say to yourself, Man, we didn't new stories.
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  Speaker 4: You know how back in the day, our parents can
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  Speaker 4: watch the watch my story.
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  Speaker 10: Said crazy Primetime soap opera. Yeah, it's crazy. People tune
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  Speaker 10: in every week just like our grandparents did every day.
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  Speaker 1: Grandparents, mamas, dead, my watch my children and.
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  Speaker 8: Be mad at you'll.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be mad at y'all. Sometimes I'll be like, man,
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  Speaker 3: I hope they don't even come up a little bit today.
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  Speaker 1: Because you get over people give it a minut fingering
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  Speaker 1: the street all the time.
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  Speaker 6: Make it different both shows because Zach's character is very divisive.
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  Speaker 6: He was written to be an antagonist to these ladies.
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  Speaker 6: So when people be like, he get on my nerves,
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  Speaker 6: that's what he was to do. But when they see me,
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  Speaker 6: they just I can't stand you. I'm like that, I'm
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  Speaker 6: doing my job. And then as a Tima, he still
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  Speaker 6: has the same remnants, so he does stuff to Fatima
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  Speaker 6: that even when I'm reading it, I'm like, I would
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  Speaker 6: never in broad life as a man do this, But
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  Speaker 6: then I have to justify it in my mind to
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  Speaker 6: act it out on television and people be like, I
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  Speaker 6: just can't stand you on that show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, the people you to decide to start asking
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  Speaker 2: you questions, but like, why would you do that?
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  Speaker 6: Like it's really or do you answer in character? Yes,
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  Speaker 6: even just not right, I'm defending Fatima. I'm like, Andy
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  Speaker 6: is jealous because I literally went.
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  Speaker 3: Back into it.
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  Speaker 6: But when you step back and think about it, like
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  Speaker 6: she's supposed to be supporting a woman doing a job
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  Speaker 6: that's supposed to be supporting black women, and she's not.
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  Speaker 6: Fatima's wrong in that situation. But Zach, don't see that
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  Speaker 6: Andy jealous. That's the way exact said. So when I
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  Speaker 6: talk to people, I talked to him like it's the stories, Yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 6: do what you want to do. I don't give a
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  Speaker 6: f of you man. And they be like, I can't
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  Speaker 6: believe you act like this. I'm like, that's my character, baby.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm gonna give you the utmost, perhaps because you
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  Speaker 7: are not even a mom, but the way you are
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  Speaker 7: carrying on like baby mama, all of that, Like you
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  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, give me the tamping the channel
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  Speaker 7: because I know you are god mother, you you have
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  Speaker 7: beautiful children in your life. But what did you did
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  Speaker 7: you call up Kadeen? Like, look, how was you acting while.
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  Speaker 8: I was around?
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  Speaker 10: I saw how Yeah, when she was pregnant with Dakota.
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  Speaker 10: My sister recently had a daughter and my brother just
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  Speaker 10: had a son.
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  Speaker 8: So I've seen it while they were pregnant.
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  Speaker 10: We've been on vacation, so I like, I study everybody
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  Speaker 10: in the movies, how they get up, how they walk, and.
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  Speaker 8: It's so crazy.
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  Speaker 10: I had to go get re aligned after that season
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  Speaker 10: because of like pushing up.
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  Speaker 2: With one I got to get into it.
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  Speaker 3: Regular.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I had to. I had my first.
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  Speaker 10: Of all, the prosthetic belly is so heavy and then just.
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  Speaker 8: Like getting up and pushing like with one arm.
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  Speaker 10: How pregnant mother would I can't imagine like the pain
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  Speaker 10: that they're really in carrying a babe months and then
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  Speaker 10: like that it was bad.
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  Speaker 8: My back was all jacked up and shoulder.
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  Speaker 7: So you're still good with being the rich and see
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  Speaker 7: in real life?
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  Speaker 8: You absolutely? I love it the power of.
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  Speaker 5: Acting, right, is it true yourmothers? Yes?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, I got to see while she was pregnant.
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  Speaker 10: That was the latest ones that I actually got to
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  Speaker 10: see to watch and study how they move.
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  Speaker 9: How I was going to ask, how did how well
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  Speaker 9: does that? How sorry, how well does that work for
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  Speaker 9: you guys on screen? Like because you have a real
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  Speaker 9: life relationship, but also when does it hurt that you
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  Speaker 9: have a real life relationship and you guys are working together.
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  Speaker 10: Oh what scene was the season was that? This is
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  Speaker 10: one of Now I'm getting mixed up with show.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 8: It was a season where we were really at odds.
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  Speaker 3: Season two of was the Tima.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so we couldn't even like talk like in real life.
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  Speaker 6: I remember season season two we actually got into an
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  Speaker 6: argument because we weren't talking.
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  Speaker 3: We're very close, like her and her and my wife
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  Speaker 3: are close.
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  Speaker 6: Me and her are close. We talk like every single day.
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  Speaker 6: We're doing season two. I'm getting into Zach mode and
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  Speaker 6: Zach's not feeling Fatima. So I'm not texting, I'm not calling.
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  Speaker 3: We not talking.
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  Speaker 1: N Man.
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  Speaker 3: She's just like, Yode, what's up? And I'm just like,
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  Speaker 3: what's up?
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  Speaker 1: Don't what's uping right now?
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  Speaker 8: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: We was really having conversations. I was like, listen in
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  Speaker 6: order for me to go to my job. Because people
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  Speaker 6: don't understand this too.
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  Speaker 8: I remember this.
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  Speaker 6: We filmed twenty We filmed twenty episodes in ten days. Jesus,
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  Speaker 6: So how am I supposed to be happy, go lucky
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  Speaker 6: in one minute and then be angry? And in this
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  Speaker 6: season was when I found out that my mom and
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  Speaker 6: my brother was going through drug stuff. I talked about
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  Speaker 6: my dad and I was going through therapy. I had
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  Speaker 6: to cry like every other scene. So I was really
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  Speaker 6: just in a bad place and a lot of time
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  Speaker 6: people don't realist with actors. You wear that when you
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  Speaker 6: walk around, Like when I'm in a bad place as
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  Speaker 6: Zach and I gotta go do something. Sometimes the remnants
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  Speaker 6: come out. Sometimes I have to apologize to people like
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  Speaker 6: my fault, like I don't mean that. And in that
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  Speaker 6: situation it was like that, you know, we got into
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  Speaker 6: an argument and I said, ya, I don't think I
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  Speaker 6: can do this number.
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  Speaker 3: I can't do this no more. She's like, what you mean?
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, it's just a lot. It's heavy
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  Speaker 3: to me this character.
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  Speaker 5: So you're a method actor for real?
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  Speaker 10: For real?
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  Speaker 3: Surely? Yeah, man, Like the last couple of years has
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  Speaker 3: been a lot. I did another project with Courtney where
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  Speaker 3: my character went through a lot. I lost my daughter.
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  Speaker 3: Oh shout out to old gray Man.
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  Speaker 6: And I had to do press while filming and I
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  Speaker 6: broke down in an interview. As matter of fact, it
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  Speaker 6: was the essence interview where I broke down and I
• 10:35
  Speaker 6: was like, I'm tired, I'm exhausted. Yeah, I just come
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  Speaker 6: off of filming Old Gray Maynor where I lost my
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  Speaker 6: daughter in a tragic accident. So I really was just
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  Speaker 6: exhausted mentally, and I'm doing an interview and I was tired,
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  Speaker 6: and I broke down, and.
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  Speaker 3: People like, DN, what is it going through? Yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I was going through it, but I was
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  Speaker 3: in character, so m I and.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask.
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  Speaker 2: So when you have that, when you shoot ten days
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  Speaker 2: and you in character that long, do you not go home?
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  Speaker 2: You're be like, babe, I'm just gonna get a hotel now.
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  Speaker 6: I stay on campus, stay on campus, and we lock in.
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  Speaker 6: Because even my kids don't like seeing me like that.
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  Speaker 6: Like I'm auditioning for projects now, I'm walking around saying
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  Speaker 6: lines in my head, going through stuffs, and they just
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  Speaker 6: like dad going.
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  Speaker 3: Through something, right, But that's what actors go through, and
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  Speaker 3: people don't realize it's a real thing.
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  Speaker 6: But I love what I do, and I love that
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  Speaker 6: I have somebody like this, my homie, my best friend.
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  Speaker 6: When I'm going through something, she'll be like, bro, you
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  Speaker 6: are devoured right now.
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  Speaker 10: Essence interview. I remember calling you. I'm like, bro, like,
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  Speaker 10: you're putting a lot on yourself right now. And I've
• 11:34
  Speaker 10: been on him about therapy. I'm like, you need to
• 11:35
  Speaker 10: go talk to somebody because I feel like black men
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  Speaker 10: like they hold up everything and.
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  Speaker 8: Everyone around them.
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  Speaker 10: And as a friend, I can see like, this is
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  Speaker 10: a lot on you right now, and I can see
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  Speaker 10: it in real time on that interview, and I was like,
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  Speaker 10: I know my friend is hurting right now.
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  Speaker 3: She called me.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't no text, no DM. She called me
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  Speaker 6: to yo and I was like, what's up. She's like
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  Speaker 6: facetimeing me. He's like, what's going on? And a lot
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  Speaker 6: of people don't realize that, like when you're going through stuff,
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  Speaker 6: you really need people to give you grace, gave your
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  Speaker 6: empathy and shout out to like y'all too for talking
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  Speaker 6: about this.
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  Speaker 3: You talk about mental health all the time with man.
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  Speaker 6: And that's why I actually loved planes that because Zach
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  Speaker 6: is going through a lot.
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  Speaker 3: He lost his child and I lost my child.
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  Speaker 6: So doing that scene and sisters and now having to
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  Speaker 6: go through this withard Tima my homegirl here she do
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  Speaker 6: you remember the scene?
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  Speaker 3: I remember the end of season four is the scene.
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  Speaker 6: It's a real bad scene and it goes back to
• 12:32
  Speaker 6: when I watched Kay Miscarry and we're doing the scene, everybody'
• 12:37
  Speaker 6: shooting fast, like, yo, that was dope.
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  Speaker 3: I go back in the tent, lost it, lost it, crying.
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, and then my barber comes in. It's just like,
• 12:45
  Speaker 6: what's the matter. I'm like, I need I need something.
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  Speaker 6: I need somebody. So they get Crystal. Crystal come in.
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  Speaker 6: She they call k and they're like the value all right.
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  Speaker 6: I said, y'all don't realize when you go through that
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  Speaker 6: trauma and that pain and you got to bring it
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  Speaker 6: back up to show people it don't just go away.
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  Speaker 3: And I had to think about that for weeks afterwards.
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  Speaker 6: So it's good to have somebody that this journey I'm
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  Speaker 6: doing with somebody, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: But shout out to y'all for talking about mental health.
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  Speaker 6: You talk about it all the time, too, envy because
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  Speaker 6: as a farther, I think you got six kids now
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  Speaker 6: six six People don't know until that man breakdown how
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  Speaker 6: much he had to carry before.
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  Speaker 3: It was like, it's enough.
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  Speaker 6: Now, you know, we allow and black women we don't
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  Speaker 6: even allow black women to vent as much as we should,
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  Speaker 6: but we allow our women to vent more than men.
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  Speaker 6: But in the team much specifically, we are talking about
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  Speaker 6: mental health for black men and.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: Disconnect after the show's over, though, like you know, cause
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  Speaker 4: you said you stay away from your family while you
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  Speaker 4: film me. Once filming and everything is completely, it's time
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  Speaker 4: to go back home. How do you just disconnect and
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  Speaker 4: get that character out of What.
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  Speaker 6: People don't know is that I disconnect from You're talking
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  Speaker 6: about social media and everything. There's points in social media
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  Speaker 6: where you won't see me too much. This stuff I
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  Speaker 6: feeling before. There's stuff that I just collab on, and
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  Speaker 6: I take about four weeks and I just disap here
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  Speaker 6: from everybody because I got to get back to me.
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  Speaker 6: I got to get back to spending time with my kids,
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  Speaker 6: my wife, my family.
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  Speaker 3: I can't just be Zach all the time. And even
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  Speaker 3: when you're on.
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  Speaker 6: Social media, you Zach, So I just got to put
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: it down and you like, fuck.
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: You, Zach.
• 14:16
  Speaker 8: You ain't working for real though.
• 14:22
  Speaker 6: For real people come at you. I can't believe you
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: treat for Teama like that. If I ever see you
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: in the street, and I'm just like, damn, Like this.
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: Is a TV show. But I get you invested, appreciate it.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: They keep watching, but it gets to be a lot
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: some times.
• 14:34
  Speaker 7: How do you respond to the people that really like
• 14:37
  Speaker 7: relate to Zach, like the guys there are guys, there
• 14:41
  Speaker 7: are real life Zachs, like my son's father wrong Rome
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: loves Zach. Zach Like, how do you give advice to
• 14:51
  Speaker 7: the real Zachs of the world.
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: I tell them, because I do have a couple of
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: really close friends who are Zach's and I tell them, like,
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: you have to you have to give yourself grace and
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: but also don't be afraid to do the work. Bro Like,
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: what we saw growing up a lot of us growing
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: up in the nineties and two thousands was a lot
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: of toxic behavior from a lot of people that we
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: just said was.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: Normal, very true, It was so fun.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: It wasn't it wasn't it was, but it was hurting.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: It was hurting a lot of us. And we just
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: have to change our mentality and realize that it's okay
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: to be vulnerable.
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: It's okay to say no, it's okay to say I
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: don't want to do this. And the more I speak
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: to these young men who talk to me about they say,
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: you know what I thought, being exact was the best
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: I could be, which is having sex with a bunch
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: of different women and having babies and chasing the streets.
• 15:38
  Speaker 6: And now they're starting to see different versions of that,
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: because there are different versions of black men who aren't
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: doing what we grew up thinking was the only way
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: to get out.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: So now I'm just like, look at other people who
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: you want to inspire to be like, and then follow that.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: And also I tell them.
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: Get off social media, which is crazy because I built
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: so much of my empire on social media. I constantly
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: tell them to get off social media. All of these
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: young men, like, how do you also.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: Get it is?
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: It is a drug, it's addictive, it's not healthy, it's
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: a business.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's not real. It's not
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: a real space.
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: It's shaping narratives about ourselves. Like you're allowing other people
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: to shape narratives about you. You know how wild that
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: is to know who you are, to know what you're about,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: and then to get online and reason and be like,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: then you start believing that, yeah, it's real.
• 16:27
  Speaker 9: I was going to say after that, because before the
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: Essence interview, you and Kadean were here, and when I
• 16:31
  Speaker 9: watched the Essence interview and I watch people respond to
• 16:34
  Speaker 9: the conversations that it started from men we're also really powerful. Yes,
• 16:37
  Speaker 9: when you see that, are you because you're very open?
• 16:40
  Speaker 9: But is there now like a different sense of responsibility
• 16:43
  Speaker 9: because all your open moments cause moments like that and
• 16:46
  Speaker 9: you don't even do it on purpose.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: I don't, but but all I can do is be open.
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: Ever since I was a little kid, I always spoke
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: my mind like truth is always like you see, I
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: hashtag devous truth because I want people to say. I realized,
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: this is not what I'm saying the world is. This
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: is what I've experienced, this is what I've been through.
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: And if what I've been through make you feel something
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: good or bad, then I'm just sharing. And that's all
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: I can do. If it made you feel something bad
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: and you can take away something and become better because
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: of it, cool, if you took away something good, cool.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: But I got to share and tell my truth to
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: fulfill my purpose. You know, ever since I was young,
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: I felt like God was like, yo, you have a
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: purpose that's bigger than just doing whatever it is you
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: think it's going to be done in Brooklyn, and stay
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: with that. Don't ever fore wary or that, don't hide
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: from it, don't go on a different adjacent just listen
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: to what God is telling you and do that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: And for me, it's sharing my life but good to
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: bad and the ugly.
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: I didn't expect to share about the miscarriage with K
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: but then all these women started talking about they went
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: through it, perimenopause. We shared about that. Women are talking
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: about that mental health with men. It's like, these are
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: conversations we should be having. That's why all of the
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: taboo topics that are causing conversations that people are upset
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: about is what we need as a people.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think people are upset.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I just love the honesty right because mhm, what your
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: relationship is is not Jess and Chris's relationship. It's not
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: me and Gie's relationship. It's not Charlemagne and his wife's relationship.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: It's not forgot sorry to learn, but it's.
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: Yes, don't know, don't put me in.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: You need to check.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: But the reason I love it shows people that it's
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: not perfect. Yes, because what we seen was a lot
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: different in our industry growing up.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: We've seen to go to the club and chase this.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: We've seen that, and.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I wish there were other people, other besides the Cosby
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Show that showed us how to do.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Things, Envy. I'm glad you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: I'm so glad you said that, because the truth is,
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: when I was growing up, I said to my dad
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: and my uncles, I wish I would have told me
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: some of this stuff when I was in my teenage years.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Why why did you wait till I'm older?
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: And they always tell me, well, we don't talk about that,
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: but think about how you could have helped me, right,
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: think about how So that's what I use. I'm like,
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: you know what, I'm gonna tell the truth. It may
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: not be pretty, but hopefully it helps somebody.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I got four boys, Hopefully it helps them.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: So that's all I can do with this, especially with
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: the Tima people like, why do you like playing Zach
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: Because Zach is toxic, Zack is angry, Zach is trauma, Zach.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Is all of us.
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: But I get to be Zach and make poor decisions
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: and then watch people see how that poor decision affected
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: my girl. So now the next dude that thinks he
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: wants to be Zach looks up and says, oh, that's
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: how I affected Fatima. Let me not do that's my girl.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: So that's you know, to me, it's just Another example.
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: Chris, have you playing Zach ever helped your marriage with Kadeen?
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: Like absolutely, absolutely, just having those conversations in real life
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: and being like, yo, if Zach would have told, for example,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: if Zach goes to Fatima and tells him he knows
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: about Chazz, rather than going off the rail and be like,
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna press this, nigga, that's me now.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: If I have an issue, now going right to my wife.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I don't care what the issue is. This is what
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know how you think you want to deal
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: with it, but it's how I feel. Once I tell
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: her how I feel about it, then she's like, Okay,
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: we can.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Handle it this way. If I'm in agreement, we rock.
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: If I'm not in agreement, she'd be like, hey, you're
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: the leader in this, I'll let you take the role.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: But having the conversation is more important and just going
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: off and doing it on your own. You weren't always
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: like that, No, I was not, because I wasn't taught
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: My father was like, Yo, as the man of the house,
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: is your responsibility to take the stress off your wife.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Don't go to her and tell her everything.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: That's what he told me, and I was like, you
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: know what, I feel that until I realized that my
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: decisions when I wasn't telling her was bringing her more stress.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: And then that's when I learned like, I'm going with
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: her anyway. And my father changed too. I talked to him.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: I came here and told you how I had that
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: conversation with pops. Now my pop's coming to me. He
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: was like, I had this issue. I went to talk
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: right to your mother. And I was like, what happened?
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: And he was just like, YO and mom talking. Now
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: they going on vacations. And then my father says to me,
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: you know, I feel like I became a better man
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: because I started to listen.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I said, no, it's because you also started to share.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: He shared, and when he should, he started to get
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: other people's perspectives.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: So I think it's both because it's all about communication. Yeah, true,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: talking is received, talking received.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: They're true, Crystal.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: A lot of us, a lot of women see themselves
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: in Fatima. What do you want women to take away
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: from your character? Maybe in general, but I guess more
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: so when I watch your character, I'm like, when does
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: when does she take care of herself?
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: She doesn't.
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: She always showing up for her meaning for everybody.
• 21:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, it's funny you say that, because there
• 21:28
  Speaker 10: was another interview I did with all the sisters and
• 21:31
  Speaker 10: they talked about men Zach's relationship, and when I look
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: at it from the outside looking in, it's not a
• 21:37
  Speaker 10: relationship that I would desire in real life because it's
• 21:39
  Speaker 10: very toxic. It's a lot of different energies, and I
• 21:43
  Speaker 10: just like to live a peaceful life, you know, And
• 21:46
  Speaker 10: which is part of the reason why I go so
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: heart as my real character Crystal, like my true character
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: who I am, because I don't want women to feel
• 21:53
  Speaker 10: like that's exactly what I want, which is why we
• 21:56
  Speaker 10: like we add stuff to the scenes to show people
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: resolution or how we're working through things.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: One thing that Fatima does not.
• 22:04
  Speaker 10: Do is take care of herself. She doesn't pour back
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: into herself. She's constantly pouring into other people, the Andes
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: and Zak and all his stuff that he has going on.
• 22:13
  Speaker 10: But I wish that they would write in some stuff
• 22:16
  Speaker 10: where she can actually just pour back into herself.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: Because you started off as a costume designer, right, Yes.
• 22:20
  Speaker 10: I actually met you when I was styling Tyler at
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: Global Citizens in South Africa.
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: That's when I first met you.
• 22:27
  Speaker 10: I was styling Tyler then, yes, started off as a
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: PA and then worked my way up through costumes.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: So you were responsible for bad I was?
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: She said, no that, So.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: How did you make your transition? Like, how did you
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: go from costume designer to being in front of the camp?
• 22:50
  Speaker 10: Well, I was always pursuing acting behind the scenes, like
• 22:52
  Speaker 10: anybody who has a real dream, you have to have
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: a day job and music. You have to have a
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: day job, something to pay the bills. And I always
• 23:00
  Speaker 10: try to put myself around what I'm trying to do,
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: which was act. So what she's doing while I was
• 23:06
  Speaker 10: what I'm doing now.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: She's doing acting and music currently and thank you?
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: So yeah, I fast forward worked my way up from
• 23:19
  Speaker 10: a PA at the studio to costume designer to styling
• 23:23
  Speaker 10: Tyler for five years. And at the time I started
• 23:25
  Speaker 10: styling Tyler, I stopped auditioning. I was actively pursuing acting
• 23:29
  Speaker 10: really really hard, and nothing was really coming. So when
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: Tyler offered me the position, I was like, dang, does
• 23:34
  Speaker 10: he think I can't act? Because I had auditioned for
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: some of his stuff, but he had never seen the auditions.
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: So when I finally got the gust to tell him
• 23:41
  Speaker 10: I was producing Sisters with him. It was season one.
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: I'm breaking it down for costume design, and I just
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: told him. I was like, listen, I've been wanting to
• 23:47
  Speaker 10: ask these are my stories, my friends stories, because we
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: were giving him this is what we're going through in
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: Atlanta dating in our thirties, and he was like, I
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: love this idea, and he gave him the opportunity and
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: then here we are, very full circle moment. And I
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: think being coming from a PA and working my way
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: through the system, I just have a different lens as
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: an actor, a different appreciation for every single person in
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: the room on the set that a lot of actors
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: may not have because they didn't come all the way through.
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: So I love my journey.
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: Everybody's journey is different, but I'm very appreciative of the
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: journey that God took me on.
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: Okay, so what's up with his music?
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: DA?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: What's up?
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: I'm working? It's my schedule.
• 24:29
  Speaker 10: Jest has been so crazy, and you know what studio
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: time is like, it takes a while.
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: It's not just one of them like microwave things, you know.
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: So just taking my time where that wanted to be right.
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: So is music something that you've always wanted to do?
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, since a kid like I've been into music.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I do want to ask a question. When you walked in,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: you were telling me that your sons are playing football. Yes,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: now you've been up here many times. He talked about
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: football has beat up your body? Yes, put you on string.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: You with programs up early in the morning. You miss
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: so much much. Why do you want your sons to
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: play football?
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Here's a funny part. I don't want them to play football.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: They want to play football because their dad played football
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: and it's popular. I would prefer them to run track
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: because track is all about discipline.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: You got to eat different.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: It's a skill set that people don't understand learning how
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: to run properly. It takes the proper force, production, it
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: takes everything. I just want them to understand discipline so
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: that they can apply that discipline to anything in life.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: If if you're great at doing one thing, you're great
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: at doing everything because you've learned how to do it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: And I think sports is the ultimate way to test
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: their will and challenge them without having to, you know,
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: deal with the bs that goes on out in the world.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Dance for girls, dance is what that discipline is a
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: different discipline.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: So that's right.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: How many girls you guys? I got to have four girls,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: two boys, So.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: You've been to a lot of dance recitals on.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: This weekend seven seven pm. But continue. I don't have past.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I don't miss it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: I don't miss going to dance recitals with my sister.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: But that discipline is exactly why I want them to
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: play sports. I just want them to be great humans,
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: great people, be good men, and just know that, Okay,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: when the adversity comes, I can work through it.
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: So what I say, it definitely builds characters, like I
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: feel like us both being former athletes, has like.
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: That discipline carries your entire life.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: It really does.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what did you play?
• 26:17
  Speaker 10: I was a competition cheerleader, which is like equivalent to dancing.
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: But that schedule like rigorous.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't understand it. I don't know if it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a sport. It's considered sport, But cheerleading and dance as
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: much as they practice goodness, as much as the effort
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: they put into.
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: It, like we would get hurt worse than football. We
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: don't have him there. You tour Achilles, Achilles, broken nose, concussion,
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: broken nose that's falling from the base. I flew in college.
• 26:42
  Speaker 10: I was a base in middle school through high school
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: and a girl came down, twist straight to the elbow,
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: straight to my nose, and you keep going, don't stop.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Finishing, keep going.
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: I don't care if the bone is out your arm.
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: You finished the routine. Our coach was shout out France fears.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to That standard is what I think
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: is missing from us right, like everything is very very soft.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: One thing I will say about my son's playing football.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: I like the fact that they get to be rugged
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: and it's like, yo, you got to push through that guy,
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: but he's standing there. Dad can't give me those qz
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: he pushed through them, or you don't you know, like
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: I think sports back in the nineties two thousand was,
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: you know, coaches with cursing kids, screaming kids challenge and
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: that now you can't do anything. My brother used to
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: coach a Konarsi high school. He doesn't anymore, but I
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: think he got written up for quote unquote speaking violently
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: to a kid which was raising his voice, and.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I said, how do you hand no? None of my coaches.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Then back up.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: My coach used to say the wildest thing. Shout out
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: to Jeffrey Ishmael. He used to say the wildest stuff
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: to me. I'm not even gonna say it on the radio,
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: but it will get you locked in, Like, let me focus.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: This man done cursed me out and threatened to kill me.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: But I know I got a locked in and I
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: do my job. But you didn't think he was gonna
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: kill you, But in my life thought he was gonna
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: kill me. I always knew that man loved me more
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: than probably his own kids.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: But if he was cursing me out, then that means
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: I wasn't.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Doing something and you knew it was gonna be consequences.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's no consequences for people these days.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: They can say what they want, they can do what
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: they want and think it's hurting us as a community.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: It most definitely is. I's still with my son asked.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: To this day, Yes, to this day, you better stoop
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: down niggas so I can get.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: So Crystal, now going back to what you said about
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: the role right, you said, looking at it as Crystal,
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  Speaker 7: you would not take this ship that's happening and you
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: would look out for yourself. You would be the total opposite.
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: How does that affect dating in your real life?
• 28:41
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I think it's made me more aware
• 28:45
  Speaker 10: of my boundaries and my nose. You know, you have
• 28:48
  Speaker 10: to have your nose. What you're not willing to deal with,
• 28:51
  Speaker 10: what are your deal breakers? And I feel like this
• 28:54
  Speaker 10: character has also helped me identify. Ye, I don't want that.
• 28:57
  Speaker 10: And you know, I don't want a guy with a
• 28:59
  Speaker 10: bunch of kids, you know. And it's crazy I say that,
• 29:01
  Speaker 10: but my father has it's four kids by four different women,
• 29:05
  Speaker 10: and it is one of the most amazing men I know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 10: you know, loves us all. He's just a good stand
• 29:10
  Speaker 10: up guy. So I know it's possible. But for me,
• 29:12
  Speaker 10: and I think it's also the temperature of the culture
• 29:15
  Speaker 10: right now, and like the toxicity when it comes to
• 29:17
  Speaker 10: baby mamas and the drama.
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  Speaker 8: I'm good, I'm cool. So it scares you from dating
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: or it's just like not scarcely from dating.
• 29:24
  Speaker 10: But I just know, like I don't want a guy
• 29:25
  Speaker 10: that's got a bunch of kids out over the place,
• 29:27
  Speaker 10: you know, maybe not an ex convict.
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: You know that If y'all have you ever try to
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: set her up.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: I try to stay away from that. I don't want
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: to have no parts in center. Okay, and you get
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: it didn't work out, and they was both mad at
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: me you and I.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Was like, I thought y'all would work well together. Yeah,
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: because I saw some synergy.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: And then you know what you think your friend is
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: in the daytime. They don't act that way. Andy's friend
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: was acting. I found out she don't act that way.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Guys, I said, you know what, I let all of them.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: You can go to Cupid. I don't want no. I
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: love you my friend. Whoever you find, I will embrace
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: that my brother. But I don't want no. Just don't
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: be a Zach.
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: You said, don't be but Zach not saying that all
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: of Zach is good.
• 30:21
  Speaker 10: There are some guys who have had a past that
• 30:23
  Speaker 10: have changed, like we've all like we all have our
• 30:25
  Speaker 10: things that we've done. And not saying people can't be redeemed.
• 30:29
  Speaker 10: It's just what I've seen and the drama that people
• 30:32
  Speaker 10: deal with. I don't want to welcome that, you know
• 30:34
  Speaker 10: what I'm saying. But if I meet somebody and he's
• 30:37
  Speaker 10: just a great because Zach is a great guy, he's
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: honest to his core. He's a really good guy and
• 30:42
  Speaker 10: I can't I cannot say that he's not.
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: We all are for sure the boy.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: Have you given Crystal and any tips on her new podcast,
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: because because she's launching the podcast called Keep It Positive Sweetie,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: the Black Effect podcast.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I will say was one of the people that told
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: us she should have a podcast.
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: I know that's right.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: This one thing I want to do is see all
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: my friends when I want to come. I want to
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: call all my friends and then be like, yo, we're
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: all going here on this island. So when she started
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: talking to me about her story and her journey and
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: everything that she believes, and I was like, you should
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: like talk about this, She's like, I don't know.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: If you don't know, you got to just do it.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: And then that's all I have to saying. She took
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: it up and ran with it, and now it's like
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: she's a beastwooted.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I went to the last live show she had in
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: the land. It was crazy. She came out like Beyonce.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: It was funny because the lights was down and they
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: didn't know that she was in the arena, so the
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: lights come down and everyone then the lights come up
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: and she's there with her background dances and all these women.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: It just felt good to watch my friend at that moment,
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: like she out there doing her thing and.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: People are doing her I felt good.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: And I'm telling you, make sure y'all tune in and
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: keep it positive, sweetie. I know I do make sure
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: that tune is.
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: Going to be.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I can't make the announcement right, well, he just did
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: in to keep it posit.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Expects same, you know, right.
• 32:06
  Speaker 10: I mean, this is our we're in two years in
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: more of just showing people that were more alike they
• 32:11
  Speaker 10: were not, yes, more of bringing people closer to Christ,
• 32:16
  Speaker 10: more of welcoming people because I feel like the Christian
• 32:19
  Speaker 10: community has done such a great job at pushing people away.
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: I wanted people to feel seen and feel loved and
• 32:25
  Speaker 10: know that, hey, you're good here, you know.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: So I just got some pushback on that on Instagram.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Mind posted.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: I talked about church, you know, I talked about like
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: I said, I'm not anti church.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not anti God because I'm not.
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: But I just don't believe in going to the same
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: church family that I felt like did me so dirty
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: every Sunday to save face.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: So I haven't found a church home yet. And I
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: guess people got.
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: Upset because I said I wasn't in church every Sunday.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: But that's just my story. I can't sit out here
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: and just say I believe in God and praise God
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: and then people like, well I don't see you in church. Well,
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: this is why I got my feelings hurt. I felt judged,
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: and I'm looking for the right place.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: You know, we have a you know, I do my
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: mental wealth export every year, and we have a panel
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: about that specific topic. Yes, my good sister Debbie Brown,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: like that was her? I did she We have a
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: topic about that in particular.
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: Remember the episode I had a bunch of different people
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: from all different walks, background, sexual purpose of everything, showing
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: that we're not as far from God as we think
• 33:25
  Speaker 10: we are because a lot of us feel like shame
• 33:28
  Speaker 10: and certain days were like I can't even talk to him,
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: and when we.
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: All sat down, we were like dang, yeah, like.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: A lot that's how I felt with church shame because
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I don't always live perfectly, so if nobody
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: they gonna just be talking about me, so I don't
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: want to go.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: I literally felt and shout out to Brenda because Brenda.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: She made me.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Brenda Palmer made me feel so welcome, and she's
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: not a judgmental person at all.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: She's the one that made.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: Me feel like, Yo, if everybody was more christ Like
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: like this, I would go every sthing. Yeah yeah, but
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: it's hard because I know that I'm not living right.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: I'm trying, you know what I'm saying, But I'm not perfect, and.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know the deacons and the ushers and.
• 34:06
  Speaker 7: Hello, well yeah nothing, just go ahead.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: But exactly a little bit.
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: And you know when they do do the communion, it
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: was liquor in some of them. So y'all gotta know
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: that the new.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Season as the team was on BT Plus right now,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: thank you for joining us so much.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys'll man the breakfast club.
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: Good morning.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Pick your ass up the
• 34:36
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• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Finish, y'all done.