Latest / AFR Saints / QUICK RECAP: Peyton Turner To Cowboys | Saints Sign Justin Reid, Tyrann Mathieu Resigns

Transcript

QUICK RECAP: Peyton Turner To Cowboys | Saints Sign Justin Reid, Tyrann Mathieu Resigns · AFR Saints

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: AFR on Demand is brought to you by Breck Golf.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Try Beaver Creek today, just twenty minutes from downtown Baton
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Rouge in the Zachary area. They've got a PGA toward
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: driving range, a short game practice area, thirty to forty
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: yard practice shots. It's a great place to chip and
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: putt and practice if you don't have time for a
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: full round. Book your tea time today. Golf dot Breck
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: dot org. Golf dot Breck dot org. Very pleased to
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: welcome aboard AFR. Co host Ross Jackson of Louisiana sports
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: Net and the Lockdown Saints podcast. Might as well be
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: we bother him every day. We appreciate it.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: Man, how are you, oh Man?
• 0:36
  Speaker 3: Doing great? Doing great? Glad you have gotten the promotion.
• 0:38
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Really excited for this opportunity.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: This is just way easier to have you come on
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: and do like the quick wraparound in context than to
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: me stumble and fumble all the way through it.
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: So let's let's go through each of these.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: You tell us how it happened, some reaction context around it.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Let's start with what I guess is the biggest news today.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: The Saints added safety. Justin reed, this is something you
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: actually wrote about Louisiana sports and ed as one of
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: your wish lists.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: So why does this make sense?
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, this is a great signing for New Orleans,
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: and this is one that allows them to be able
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: to kind of absorb one of the other moves that
• 1:13
  Speaker 3: I'm sure we would get to. But I can go
• 1:14
  Speaker 3: ahead and fold it in now, which is the loss
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: of Will Harris. Right, Will Harris signing over with the
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: Washington Commanders excellent addition for them, but for the Saints,
• 1:22
  Speaker 3: that ends up kind of costing them one of those downhill,
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: hard hitting, great communicator type safeties, and so it kind
• 1:30
  Speaker 3: of shot the need for safety up the boards. But
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: now you get this deal done and it kind of
• 1:36
  Speaker 3: helps you out quite a bit. I think it'll be
• 1:38
  Speaker 3: twenty nine years old when the season begins. It's only
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: twenty eight right now. But he's been somebody that has
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: effectively taken the exact same career trajectory as Tyron Matthew.
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: He started in Houston, went to Kansas City, played in
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: three Super Bowls there, now comes to New Orleans. Team
• 1:53
  Speaker 3: up with Tyron Matthew. I think those two can be
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: a really effective safety duo for Brandon Staley's defensive scheme,
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: which is going to want that versatility from that safety position.
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: And so I think those two are going to be
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: able to complement each other quite a bit here over
• 2:08
  Speaker 3: the course of twenty twenty five. And this is a
• 2:09
  Speaker 3: great signing for du world.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: Is read an upgrade from Harris.
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: I would say so, But look, I think that they're
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: slightly different in terms of their play as well. I
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: think that they both kind of checked the downhill safety box.
• 2:22
  Speaker 3: But I think that what it is that Reed does
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: a little bit better than what Harris had is that
• 2:26
  Speaker 3: you can have him kind of be that split safety
• 2:29
  Speaker 3: to split the field deep and all these other things.
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: So in a defense that's going to use a lot
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: of what's called cover six, so you're going to have
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: one safety covering one half of the field deep and
• 2:41
  Speaker 3: then maybe a safety in a corner kind of splitting
• 2:43
  Speaker 3: coverage for the other half of the field to kind
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: of covering quarters on the other side. You need some
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: of those rangy guys that are going to be able
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: to be complimentary and not only be able to play
• 2:51
  Speaker 3: downhill in the box, but also be able to guard deep.
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: And I think that he's a little bit better and
• 2:55
  Speaker 3: a little bit more polished in that area of the
• 2:57
  Speaker 3: game than maybe Will Harris.
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: Well, so they add, justin read, they've re signed two
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: notable contracts, Chase Young and Juwan Johnson. Let's start with
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: walking me through the financials here and if these are
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: good deals to bring both of those players back.
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I think the thing with both of these
• 3:20
  Speaker 3: deals is that we don't know if they're good yet. Well,
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: you've got to find out based on the production that
• 3:26
  Speaker 3: you get now that the deals are done. But I
• 3:28
  Speaker 3: will say that being able to get Chase Young back
• 3:31
  Speaker 3: in New Orleans on a three year, seventeen million per
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: year average deal is a pretty good situation that puts
• 3:38
  Speaker 3: the writ in between guys like Alex Highsmith and Bryce
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: Huff in the NFL. And if you would have told
• 3:45
  Speaker 3: me when he was a second round draft pick years ago,
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: excuse me, number two overall draft pick years ago, that
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: Chase Young would be getting paid the same as guys
• 3:53
  Speaker 3: named Alex Highsmith and Bright Huff, I think I wouldn't
• 3:57
  Speaker 3: have believed you, you know what I mean. And so
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: I think what you see with a guy like Chase
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: Young is that clearly, this team has looked at him,
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: this new coaching staf has looked at him and decided
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: that they can do something with what he has to offer.
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: Seventy three total pressures according to next Sin stats last year,
• 4:13
  Speaker 3: number six in the NFL on that metric, but only
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: five and a half sacks. So the success of this
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: deal hinges on his ability to tick that number up
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: and be a little bit more of a sack producer.
• 4:23
  Speaker 3: Get it. I know that for defensive ends, sacks are
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: not all the story, but it's most of the story.
• 4:29
  Speaker 3: So I think that you have to find a way
• 4:31
  Speaker 3: to be able to tick that production up. So maybe
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: him being a stand up pass rusher and Daily's system
• 4:35
  Speaker 3: might end up kind of elevating him and allowing him
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: to be able to use his speed in a way
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: that Dennis Allen's depense didn't necessarily elevate him last year.
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: So I think the production is going to be a
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: big part of that. But I will say if his
• 4:48
  Speaker 3: cap hit in twenty twenty five is less than nine
• 4:50
  Speaker 3: million dollars, the Saints actually saved money in twenty twenty
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: five on this deal by keeping him, believe it or not,
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: because if he would have walked out the door nine
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: million dollars of dead cap would have walked that with him.
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: I would say the same thing, Yeah, go ahead, No,
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: I was gonna.
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: Say, it almost feels a little bit like a restructure
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: and an extension anyway, go ahead.
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like a it's a I think I
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: was talking with somebody in the media room yesterday and
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: we called it like a hidden money situation that actually
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: by keeping the player you end up making a little
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: bit money back here this year, and the same thing
• 5:20
  Speaker 3: happens with Juwan Johnson. Deal now is ten million dollars
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: effectively worth it for Juwan Johnson? That part we don't
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: know yet. That again is going to be all about
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: the production and the new offense moving forward. But clearly
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: Kellen Moore believes he can do something with Juan who
• 5:36
  Speaker 3: had a career high in catches last year and had
• 5:38
  Speaker 3: a career high and receiving yards last year. But we're
• 5:40
  Speaker 3: talking like forty catches in five hundred and forty eight
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: receiving yards. They're not talking about anything earth chattering there.
• 5:45
  Speaker 3: So they've got to make that contract worth it. But
• 5:48
  Speaker 3: here in twenty twenty five, if he comes in and
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: his cap hit is less than six and a half
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: million dollars. The things actually saved money, so moves like
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: this actually helped them make moves like the Justin Reed edition.
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: So it all kind of feeds into one another.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: Boss Jackson's with US Louisiana Sports DoD Net locked on
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: Saints podcast. To make all this happen, they had to
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: restructure Tyron and de Mario Davis and Pete Werner and
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: Caesar Louiz and Carl Granderson and I might have left
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: somebody else off out there. Tell me what is significant
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: about those restructures, short or long term?
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: What should we know?
• 6:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the most significant one is actually the
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: Tyron Matthew deal. It's not the one that saves the
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: most money, but the Tyron Matthew rework is really what
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: it was was actually a renegotiation of his contract, so
• 6:34
  Speaker 3: they dropped his base salary down, actually saved some money
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: that way, and then just added a whole bunch of
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: playing time incentives to it. This is a really team
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: friendly thing for Tyron Matthew to do for the second
• 6:45
  Speaker 3: year in a row. By the way, last year he
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: took a pay cut in order to get guarantees. This year.
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: This year, he took those guarantees and reduced them and
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: then flipped them over to intensives. So everything that you
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: know about Tyron Matthew character wise shows in situations like
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: this where he's doing things that help the team out tremendously.
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: So I think that's kind of the biggest statement rework
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: or renegotiation that you're going to see here, the ones
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: that saves the most money. Your moves like restructuring Carl
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: Granison and restructuring Sees Relise. All together, with all the
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: moves that the Saints made, they opened up at least
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: about twenty million dollars worth of salary cap space today
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: just in those moves. That includes restructuring Colin Saunder's, restructuring
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: Pete Werner, and then they also did some kind of
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: rework to Toamaaro Davis, but we don't have those details yet,
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: so we'll see exactly which way all of this goes.
• 7:32
  Speaker 3: So depending on exactly what those figures are, they might
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: have opened up more than twenty million dollars, but it
• 7:37
  Speaker 3: certainly opened up an opportunity for them to be in
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: the arena free agency and actually get involved here and
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: kind of what the second.
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: Wave is I guess the other really notable name so
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: far as it, Peyton Turner, former first round draft pick,
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: of course, is signed the one year deal with the
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I'm not sure that any of us think
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: anything different, but any reaction to seeing Peyton Turner walk
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: out the door, Yeah.
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: It was exactly what was expected, right, Like they didn't
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: pick up the fifty year option last year, which isn't
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: usually completely indicative of whether or not the team is
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: he interested in moving on with the player, But with
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: this one, it's felt like it was pretty indicative whether
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: or not the team intended to move on with a player.
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: He drafted him as a project in the first round
• 8:14
  Speaker 3: and he'll at Buy's selection that never really panned out,
• 8:16
  Speaker 3: some of that having to do with opportunity, some of
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: that having to do with injury. Right, he limited his
• 8:20
  Speaker 3: own opportunities not being able to stay out on the field.
• 8:23
  Speaker 3: So now the big question mark is who is he
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: now that he leaves New Orleans? Is he a Zach Bond,
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: is he a Caid Nellis or is he a Marcus Davenport.
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: And so that's going to be the big thing. And
• 8:32
  Speaker 3: what I mean by that is, is he go out there
• 8:33
  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden become a defensive player that
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: your candidate like Zach Bond just did. Does he kind
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: of serve a role like Caid Nellis does in Atlanta,
• 8:40
  Speaker 3: or does he flame out but yet continue to get
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: contracts somehow, like Marcus Davenport has over in Detroit. So
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to kind of see what his trajectory
• 8:46
  Speaker 3: post New Orleans is. But it was clear that, especially
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: with the scheme chains, he didn't necessarily have a future
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: here in New Orleans.
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: Ross with this first big wave seemingly probably coming to
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: an end and then sort of the second wave of rage,
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: should we be looking for player position wise?
• 9:02
  Speaker 2: What's on the horizon?
• 9:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a big thing of watch is what
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: do they do on the offensive line. They've not done
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: anything in terms of resignings on the offensive line. The
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: only thing that they've done so far is restructuring contracts
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: for guys like Cause Louis for instance. So you saw
• 9:16
  Speaker 3: a big focus on the defensive trenches in the first
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: day and in the second day even with guys internal,
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: but also going out trading for Devon gotcha. But then
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: now the next thing is what do they do on
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: their offensive trenches. So a big name that I would
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: watch here, I think you're looking for a starter on
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: the interior. Making a mistick about it is McKai Becton,
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: the Philadelphia Eagles offensive lineman, who's a tackle that transitioned
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: into the inside last year. He's still out on the market,
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: and the Philadelphia Eagles made a trade sending former Thinks
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: safety Jaunty Garden Johnson to the Houston Texans in exchange
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: for an offensive lineman. So there's some indication that Kai
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: Becton may indeed be on the way out and phil
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: it So if that's the case, if he liked what
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: he did in Kellen Moore's offense, was he could potentially
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: come here to New Orleans do it again in twenty
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: twenty five. That would be another big signing for New Orleans.
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: But they did say they were going to be more active,
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: and so a signing like Justin Reid and then a
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: signing like Makai Bector would certainly indicate that, and then
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: they can fill out the rest of their roster with
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: smaller contracts, and of course they're draft I.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Knew you could do that way more efficiently than I could.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: Ten minutes, very well spent.
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: Ross Jackson, locked on Saints podcast YouTube or podcast wherever
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: you get it, make sure you go subscribe and you
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: can read Ross for free every day at Louisianasports dot net.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: I know this has got to feel like drinking out
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: of a fire hose a little bit with the way
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: the news has been coming the past two days. But
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: you can get it all for free with Louisiana Sports
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: dot net or locked on Saints Podcast YouTube.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: There. Hey man, we appreciate it. I'll probably bother you
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: again tomorrow.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: God happy to do it. Man, Drinking from a fire
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: hose is what I do on a daily basis. Thank
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: I've gotten to see your work ethic and I know
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: that well. Thank you man, We appreciate it.
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: Thanks Bert, take Y, Thanks talk you too.