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Movies, Comics, and Pop Culture with Mike Zapcic of Jay and Silent Bob’s Secret Stash – IT in the D 446 · IT in the D

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  Welcome back. Thank you for hanging out with us.
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  This is the one and only it in the D show episode 4 46. I'm your host,
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  Bob Walton. Be hanging out with producer extraordinaire.
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  Co-host Randy Walker guest this week, the illustrious one, the man, the myth,
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  the legend. Mr. Mike Zick,
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  you might know him from the comic book men show on AMC.
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  You might know him from Jane silent. Bob's secret stash at in red bank,
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  New Jersey. You might know him from the new movie clerks three.
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  You might know him from just, just being the all around great guy.
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  Mike Zepick is in the house.
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  You can find us online it in the d.com. Do us a favor.
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  our soul. Don't forget meetup.com/it.
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  The day we had a great first event at 54 west and Clawson really cool open air.
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  Um, a lot of people showed up. It was cool conversation,
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  almost round table style, the networking,
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  we all kind of sat down the little lounge chairs, but it was great. Uh, hope,
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  hope to see in next month, same old, uh, networking, uh, with a bunch of nerds.
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  Good stuff. Yeah, that was a great space. It's October 20th should be, uh,
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  should be good. Mike, how you doing? How they treating you, man? What's.
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  Going on? It's treating me well, what's.
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  Up. It's been a while. It's been about a good year since we've seen you, man.
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  Miss you.
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  Hasn't been that long. It's been six months, guess six months,
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  or is it gonna drop six months from now?
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  The way Randy edits. It'll be six one. Now I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
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  I'm Hey, Randy, I'm fine. My hair's already gray. We're good.
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  So, uh, you've been like, we'll go back a little bit,
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  but like I gotta drop clerks three, man. Like, that's gotta be like,
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  just to do the whole red carpet, the whole Hollywood thing.
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  Like how glitz and glammy was it or did you guys simple or I guess what was
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  going on there?
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  I was not at the Los Angeles, premier,
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  which was like lots of pop in circumstance. It was at, uh it's.
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  I don't even know what they call it anymore,
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  but it used to be grins Chinese theater, which I think is racist now. Right.
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  It on me too, you know, all the, uh, the other.
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  Man's Chinese. Wasn't it.
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  Man, man. Yeah. Wow. It's if you want to go with, you know, Chinese theater,
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  you know, whatever groins Asian theater, how about that?
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  Or a man's Asian theater should have been one of.
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  Those, but I know it's, uh, it got released, you know,
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  I was telling you pre-show my daughter works at the locally imagined and they
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  dropped it there. I mean,
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  it was pretty much dropped the entire country or how many do you like,
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  did it go everywhere?
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  Uh, Kevin did a, uh, fathom event and he did a Q and a,
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  and he did it out of, I, I believe, uh, I might be a mistaken,
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  but I'm pretty sure that he did it from Atlantic Highlands. Um,
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  he just bought a, in this day and age,
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  my boss that's, uh,
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  and I've never seen a man who was more of a far
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  thinker than Kevin Smith bought a movie
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  theater. He bought a five screen movie theater and I'm like,
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  what? That is so badass that I was like
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  completely amazed.
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  So it's gonna be like tu every day on four theaters. Is that what's going on?
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  Dollar signs, Tuss that's badass. Yeah.
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  He he's making a sequel to tus.
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  He is not.
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  Swear to God and to the hand to hand to.
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  The man. So I dunno if I dunno if I ever told you that story. We saw him at, uh,
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  Windsor ComicCon in Canada and it was like a spoken word thing.
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  And you had to buy tickets and there was, it was just set up in like a,
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  a banquet hall, like a wedding hall.
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  And he talked for four hours and didn't take a
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  breath the entire time and like an hour of it.
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  And an hour of it was tusk.
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  And I was so excited to see that movie because of that talk. And the,
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  I don't wanna say that movie was a giant turn, but there was,
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  I know there was inside joke galore and probably inside laughter going on for
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  days. But like that movie was a, was an interesting,
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  interesting film to say the least.
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  Let's put it this way. That was, um,
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  written by a man written and directed by a man who
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  kept pushing the boundaries. He that's, that was what he, um, the, one of the,
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  the, the things that he prides himself on for that movie.
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  And I, I have a soft spot in my heart for it, cuz I've got Mr.
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  Tusk at J and silent Bob's secret thing. I mean,
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  I have to look at that damn thing every day. Right. Um,
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  and smells like Justin Long still. So, um,
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  but he just kept pushing the boundaries and he said,
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  this movie is nothing but whimsy it's me
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  indulging in like a, uh, a not, it was a,
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  it started out as a podcast and you know,
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  how many other movies have podcasters as the main protagonist? So.
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  Well, I heard the main story was it was just like a Craigslist add that, Hey,
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  I need a roommate it's free. You just gotta dress up like a walrus.
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  like it was already in UK. Yes. It was in the person. And they're like,
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  yeah, one hour a day, you dress up like a walrus. And I, I throw fish at you.
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  So Hey, who would do that for free room and board shit.
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  Yeah.
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  Especially Edward your side at time.
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  My God. Over on this side. Yeah. It's, it's a little expensive here.
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  So clerks three, did you, uh,
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  you actually got a part you're not just cameo and you're actually, uh,
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  in the film, eh.
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  I was, we, we played, um, hockey on the roof and, uh,
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  it, we filmed last year and it was the hottest, it was, uh, middle of summer,
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  hottest day of the summer. I, I think we, they planned it that way.
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  We went up on the roof of the quick stop. And um,
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  if you remember the original clerks,
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  they played hockey on the roof and that's, it was an homage to that. And,
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  um, just to give you a little bit of backstory for me, uh,
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  I had had a double kidney infection like a week prior and I was
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  just getting over it and I'm up on this stinking hot roof.
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  And I'm like, oh my God.
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  And we're all wearing long pants and we're in these hockey jerseys and they're
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  like, stay hydrated, stay hydrated.
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  Plus we've got the masks on cause still in the midst of COVID and um,
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  we we've got umbrellas cuz it's the damn, I mean,
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  it was melty up there, but we had fun. It was a blast. As.
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  Long as you get to steal Gatorade kind of part of the stick, right? Yeah.
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  Of course you have to steal Gatorade.
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  So rumor has it. So I'm gonna be seeing you in person in a month,
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  but rumor I know, I know quick stops still a store.
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  Yes.
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  But I also heard that the, the VHS store is like, is back,
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  is that rumor or is that.
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  No, no. They tried, they tried, there was a guy I forget. Uh,
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  I think his name was Tucker and he wanted to, uh,
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  make it into like a video store slash gift
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  shop for everything Jay and silent Bob, which I, I was like,
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  that's the, we have one of those it's called Jay and silent. Bob's secret.
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  Thank you much. But you know,
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  and we were trying to be supportive of him and uh,
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  he was gonna actually rent videos and rent, uh,
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  VHS V uh, VCRs. And I'm like, wow,
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  that's bold. That's,
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  that's a bold move to that's like going out and renting an, a track.
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  It's like 12 years old all over again. I remember, uh,
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  we used to rent an Nintendo systems occasionally when I'd go see my cousins or
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  they'd come over. Uh, we rented a VCR a few times.
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  You know what we just saw we're um, Eastside got 'em where I live in Detroit,
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  the east, uh, more than the, where I live, but the old family videos.
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  Did you guys, I dunno if you guys had those.
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  Oh yeah. Oh my God.
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  We had a Faser video and a place called Fe's Folies so
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  there, and I would love to see them make a comeback.
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  Cause I don't know about you guys, but like everything's dying in this, uh,
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  you know, box, store world we had, um, one of,
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  and every community had a mall back in the seventies and well,
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  actually back in the eighties, we all had a mall, your mall,
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  my mall there, they were essentially the same mall,
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  but mine was cooler cuz I lived there and yours was cooler cuz you lived there.
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  But um,
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  we had the mammoth mall and my mall mammoth mall has the,
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  um, the lovely, uh,
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  distinction of being, uh, run by the Kushner family.
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  You know, the, uh, the Trump's in waiting.
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  The Jared Kushner.
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  Yes that's them. Wow. So yeah, they're,
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  they're killing off everything in that mall to make, uh, room for,
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  um, uh, living space. So they're turning the mall
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  essentially. They're turning the mall into, uh, Dawn, the dead.
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  Without, without being Rames.
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  Yeah, exactly. Or actually, uh, with Ken Forry.
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  I still have a special place in my heart for that movie because it introduced,
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  it introduced me to Richard cheese, um,
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  who I cannot love more as a human being. Like I think he's brilliant.
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  He is, uh, I love Richard cheese. So yes.
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  See now my Saturdays used to involve,
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  we used to go to record time and go and sing that one song to that one guy who
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  would roll his eyes at you in the back room to try to find that one song,
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  you know, that you heard at this club and you'd hum it, and he'd like, oh,
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  Christ on the stick, you know?
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  And then we'd go to best buy and literally spend all our money on, you know,
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  DVDs and, and CDs. And then we would, you know,
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  then we would go to like to the car radio store and like buy amps,
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  like that's every dollar I had went to like, so I have crates and crates.
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  Remember, I mean, there was furniture in our house dedicated to DVDs.
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  Sure. Yeah. Like not just bookcases, but they had like chairs,
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  like at the high back chair where they had the DVDs on, you know,
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  you could pin 'em in the back or on the sides, but yeah,
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  I used to go to tower records and remember when you could like buy a song for a
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  dollar and put it on your cassette tape and they would make you a like your own
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  kind of mix tape.
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  Revolutionary. I remember harmony house did it.
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  They were trying to do it with digital,
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  where they were giving you like a USB stick and you could wow. And that,
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  but it never worked cuz they could never get 'em to sell just one song.
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  They were, I was, uh, consulting for them on the it side.
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  That's why they were like, they used to have, um, little terminals.
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  You could listen to songs, but they couldn't get 'em to sell them to people. Um,
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  but that was their big thing. So what, so speaking,
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  like I could reminisce you all day,
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  but like now I feel like when fall hit,
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  it's almost like the new TV shows when school starts. Right.
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  And we are an absolute overload like tomorrow morning at three in the morning
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  we're gonna get Andor which I, I wanna love it.
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  I really do. I keep calling it Endor that it's gonna be E walks and no,
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  no it's Andor um.
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  Absolutely.
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  But what an obscure character to do an entire series of, and I don't know,
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  was this story, did this story need to be told?
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  Cause I like Mandalorian when it first broke, I was like, okay, cool. I'm down.
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  Bobba fat. I was like, oh my God. Gimme.
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  Right. Of.
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  Course. And then now I'm like, and or I'm like, who wants, like,
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  I'm hoping I'm it looks really cool. Um, I dunno, what do you think?
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  Uh,
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  I think that it's gonna be more of an ensemble cast than it is just uh,
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  and or what's his name? Uh, uh, Cassy and, and yeah. Um,
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  I I'm hoping that it's like that. I, for one,
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  we, we didn't need OB one Kenobi. We didn't need that, but.
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  It was good. It was.
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  It, it was no,
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  it was brilliant in parts in very, very small,
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  you got glimpses of how good it was and you got to see
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  like the,
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  the power of Vader and I'm sitting everyone out there is watching,
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  you know, I'm, I'm like squeezing my hand, like the power of the dark side.
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  You get to see how powerful Vader truly is the former Aquin
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  Skywalker.
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  If I remember OB one correctly, I'm, I'm trying to,
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  one was necessary and two and three and four could have almost been
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  combined. It's like when the one,
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  whatever director was the one that it should have been back and forth between OB
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  one and, and Ankin back and forth, back and forth. And it,
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  it turned into like episodes two and three turned into that whole lay of,
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  and I didn't hate her, um, or that whole thing, but it like the whole,
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  when it was at its best, it was like them that the,
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  just that struggle between those two.
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  Right. Yeah. And you got that flashback of akin and um,
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  his need to be better than only.
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  One. Yeah. The training thing,
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  I almost felt like it should have started there and like just constant go back
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  and forth. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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  That would've been really cool, but the one thing,
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  and it was very disingenuous to me because the live action and the
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  animated, the clone wars,
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  clone wars gave you more depth of Ankin
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  you got to see the warrior and the Jedi that they, you know,
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  we didn't get to see anywhere else. You know, we,
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  we heard like, he's this fantastic, um, fighter pilot.
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  And we heard that he was this amazing warrior, but we never saw it.
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  We only saw like these, we saw the annoying sack of,
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  or we saw the flesh bag that he became, well.
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  It's kinda like Bobba fat. Right? Like you're supposed to be like the bad,
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  like everyone was kind of pissed. I'm like,
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  you don't realize like he's an old man. Like he's just, you know, he's at the,
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  like towards the end of his thing. Like, and they, and they tried to explain it,
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  but like, you know, the problem was on the Mandalorian, those,
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  those like the Bobba, he was like the baddest dude on the planet.
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  And then when it came to the actual series,
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  like he kinda wasn't anymore.
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  You know? Well, I think part of it's like, it's really cool to, you know,
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  uh, to fight, to gain something, but to, you know,
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  to keep the peace that's the bitch, right?
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  Politics. Yeah.
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  Conquering easy. Conquering is that's no sweat.
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  Alls you have to do is be the smarter and the stronger, but ruling no,
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  that's a pain in the ass because that's about com compromise, um,
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  going in and kicking someone's ass.
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  That's all about you forcing your will on somebody else,
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  but to keep the peace and to not have like the rebel uprising that, you know,
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  kind of plague little plague, the empire just a little bit, um, you know,
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  you need to, to learn the art of compromise.
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  And I think that that's what the book of Bobba fed was should have been the,
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  the book of compromise.
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  . So my thing is, um,
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  and you'll probably get mad at me for this cuz you don't, you don't need it,
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  but I need screen crush. So like every time I watch an episode,
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  I waited 12 hours and screen crush drops and he gives me all the references to
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  all the books and everything that, where everything came from.
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  But I watch it this episode over again, and then I'm like, oh,
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  but I'm like, I almost feel like you are your own screen crush in your head.
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  like.
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  A, a little bit,
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  but actually the one really weird thing is
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  I didn't become a, I I'd always love star wars, our three star wars,
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  you know, star wars, empire, Jedi.
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  Those are our star wars. Yeah. Oh yeah. Uh, the, the kids growing up, they got,
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  you know, um, like our children got, um,
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  like the, the original, the other three, right? Um, yeah,
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  the prequels. And then after that is, you know, like, I,
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  I don't know our grandchildren, uh, not, not quite yet. We're.
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  Not introducing either of 'em to 7, 8, 9. They're just, those are gone.
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  Those are race the archives.
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  Yeah. I wish but they're but even that I was like,
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  you know what? And I, I had stopped watching clone wars, I think season, um,
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  the first season, because it originally was like the cartoon,
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  then it went CGI and my kids were like, yeah,
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  this CGI is not all that great. It's like,
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  there were like 10 and 11 and I was like, all right, very cool.
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  We don't have to watch it anymore if you don't want to. And we didn't.
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  And then I eventually went back because of what a disappointment,
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  the last three movies were. And then I got back into, uh,
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  I started watching the clone wars and I'm like, these are really, really,
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  really well done.
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  I had no idea how much time and energy day Lon had put into these,
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  which is stunning.
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  And then I watched them and I watched 'em all the way through. And then I,
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  you know, we got that extra, uh, season with a soca. Yep.
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  So I absolutely load when I first saw her.
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  Whiny whiney.
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  But then again, they put her with the, the perfect, uh, Jedi. Right? Yep. Um,
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  but it wasn't because then we started to see the growth of Anan and then we
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  started to see the growth of a soca and we,
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  we saw how cool a soca became and how
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  utterly amazing and brilliant Ankin truly was
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  up until, you know, revenge of the.
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  Right.
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  Reverted back to form.
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  Mike, did you see the book that when Luke,
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  it was a quote from Lucas on what his vision was for
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  7, 8, 9.
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  No, tell.
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  Me you're gonna get so angry because it would've been the perfect.
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  So basically it starts as the, when the Mandalorian brought Luke in.
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  So Luke is that age and it's like, it wasn't necessarily going to be Grau,
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  but it was during that time when Ben was being trained in like the young, the,
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  you know, the, the next generation of Jedi are being trained,
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  the Empire's gone and it's kind of turned into like the Bobba Fe where like the,
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  the hus own this part. And they own that part.
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  But Darth mall was back and he was basically the crime
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  overlord and he was training Darth.
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  Is it Reen rein the, the girl Darth rein the girl, um,
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  as his apprentice. So then like, and it was, uh, Ray would've been,
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  it would the solo twins. Cause that was the, what the original books were.
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  So the Ray would've been the one, you know, and it basically this,
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  this trilogy was following Leia.
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  So Leia then was the grand chancellor or spring chancellor.
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  And it kind of followed that story arc through the three. And it wasn't,
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  you know, you would've never gotten Finn or Poe and you, you know,
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  I don't know if Kyle Ren would've been Kyle Ren, he would've been Ben solo,
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  but I don't know what he would've been, you know, and Ray would've,
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  it wouldn't have been Ray. It would've been, you know, uh, what was her?
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  Oh my God. Why? Uh, I can't think of her name, the solo. Um.
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  Oh, I, yeah, forget, um.
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  I'm gonna get yelled, but.
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  I forget which solo girl, whatever her name was. Um, yeah.
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  And didn't Luke get married.
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  I don't, it didn't really say in his book, the book kind of quoted what,
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  like an overview of like what the three arc.
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  So he said the first one was following.
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  It was basically the third one was following the, the,
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  the daughter and the grandchildren. Gotcha. The third trilogy.
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  Randy, how do you feel about that? How do you feel about Luke? Uh,
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  marrying outside of the, yeah.
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  I've never read any of the extended universe books or anything like that.
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  I basically only watch the TV and movie stuff.
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  Randy Randy's star Trek.
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  Randy I'm I believe me. Hey, strange new world. Am I right?
• 20:02
  It's a great shake on star Trek.
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  Double fun, so much fun.
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  So, you know, what's pissing me off. What's going on now.
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  And Randy can chime in on this. You knows all about this is between the damn,
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  uh, uh, house house of, um, God bless it. Why can't,
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  but it's house the Lord of the rings and,
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  and all like combined. And like, people will walk into the room,
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  like from my family and they'll go, which one is this one? And I'm like,
• 20:31
  I don't know. Like, you know, it's almost to the point where I don't know, they,
• 20:34
  they they're blending. They're so cl you know, two different,
• 20:37
  completely new story arcs. One goes 170 years back in the house of drag or the,
• 20:42
  uh, Darian thing. And, uh, Lord of the rings.
• 20:45
  I don't even know when that was said, I didn't even bother reading.
• 20:47
  Right. You should should tell next time they, they come in and they're like,
• 20:51
  which one is this? So do you see anyone ING a dragon?
• 20:54
  .
• 20:56
  A dragon, then it's the other one, right? Is,
• 21:00
  is someone and dragon and honest to God you do that.
• 21:04
  Someone's gonna actually a dragon.
• 21:05
  Did you see the bit on bars still, like two days ago about the, uh, orgy scene?
• 21:11
  No, but I, I mean, I did catch the orgy scene and I was like, I was a, um,
• 21:16
  I had to go to IMDB and just make sure that this girl wasn't like 15 years old,
• 21:21
  I'm like, oh, done. Let me just, cause I mean, you know.
• 21:25
  You never know.
• 21:26
  Family, notwithstanding those Brits are a little, you know.
• 21:30
  Apparently the, the extra,
• 21:31
  those are all extras and there was a.
• 21:35
  Special is what they are.
• 21:37
  , but it was a 12 hour shoot and they got paid like union scale.
• 21:43
  And they had to, they, the one,
• 21:44
  couple apparently was like in the 69 position for 12 hours and got like two
• 21:49
  breaks or something. They were expanding this on, on bar stool,
• 21:53
  Instagram or whatever. And I'm like good Christ.
• 21:55
  And I'm sure their breath smelled delightful.
• 21:58
  Well, he was, uh, he was going off about the,
• 22:01
  the swamp ass in the room because he goes,
• 22:02
  apparently it was like super hot and everybody was all sweaty, you know?
• 22:07
  Oh my God. I mean, poor, poor guy, but even poorer woman,
• 22:12
  cuz I'm sure, you know, his, his hairy ass was like, just like,
• 22:17
  oh God, what? The.
• 22:19
  So what's the deal with everything that comes out now everyone's got a bitch
• 22:22
  about it and not just the storyline, but now they're like, oh geez,
• 22:26
  it's woke or, oh this and, and I'm so tired of it. I'm not gonna lie.
• 22:30
  Like the girl in Lord of the rings. I thought, I think the El,
• 22:34
  the blonde I think is awesome.
• 22:35
  And like all of a sudden she's getting like death threats and hate and shit.
• 22:38
  She had to shut off her social. I'm like, what do you hate her for? I,
• 22:41
  I don't get it.
• 22:42
  She's amazing. Glad. Yeah. Fantastic.
• 22:45
  And she's getting hate because she's a strong female character.
• 22:49
  [inaudible] yourselves, everybody. Yeah. How about that? How about there?
• 22:53
  That's that's coming, coming at you straight from Jersey who fuck yourself.
• 22:58
  You know, that's perfectly fine. Don't watch it. Don't watch it.
• 23:01
  I think that Amazon's gonna be fine without your [inaudible] $4. Yeah. A month.
• 23:07
  Whatever. Think they'll, they'll be okay. Yeah. You know.
• 23:10
  I, I just don't like, don't you have better shit to do. Like.
• 23:14
  It's really awful. Cause uh,
• 23:16
  and managing a comic bookstore,
• 23:19
  even the world's most famous comic bookstore does not make me exempt from this.
• 23:23
  Cause I have people come in who bitch about she hope,
• 23:28
  uh, because it's a strong female character who, you know,
• 23:33
  and my wife has a problem with this. My wife has my, my wife, God love her.
• 23:38
  She's um,
• 23:40
  she is about not, not female empowerment.
• 23:45
  She's about empowerment. She's like, I don't give a shit. If you are a,
• 23:48
  a male or a female, be your own advocate, don't be a victim.
• 23:52
  Don't no one should be a victim. Right.
• 23:56
  And if you can help someone else out, help him out. But you know,
• 24:00
  you're not a white Knight. I'm not a white Knight. You're not a white Knight,
• 24:04
  Randy. Uh, you might. Yeah. You're all right. You're not a white Knight. Um,
• 24:11
  do shit yourself, you know, and you know, she, Huk is, is all about that,
• 24:15
  you know? And, um, she.
• 24:19
  But isn't that, doesn't it follow the book to it?
• 24:22
  Uh, it did follows very closely cause uh,
• 24:25
  she Hulk's been breaking the fourth wall since John burn, uh,
• 24:29
  took over her book. Uh, there, the second incarnation it's uh,
• 24:34
  there was a Savage, she Hulk then sensational, she Hulk. And then it's uh,
• 24:37
  she Hulk attorney law.
• 24:40
  Are they mad about the fourth wall?
• 24:42
  They, they think that it's a Deadpool thing, which it's no,
• 24:46
  it was always, it was more of a, she Huk thing.
• 24:50
  It was a smokey in the bandit first.
• 24:51
  I it's it's in every, but people get yourself about stuff.
• 24:56
  And then you find out that, you know,
• 24:57
  people come in and start bitching at me about how she Huk is woke and yada,
• 25:02
  yada, yada didn't even watch the show and I'm like, go fuck yourself. Um,
• 25:06
  again from Jersey go. And I don't say that to my customers. I say it,
• 25:11
  walk out the door. Um,
• 25:12
  but I hear that a lot about Sandman
• 25:18
  now. I did you watch Sandman?
• 25:21
  I watched the first and I didn't pick it back up. Not that it was bad.
• 25:25
  I just haven't picked up. I really liked.
• 25:27
  It. It's fantastic, Randy.
• 25:29
  I forgot. That was a thing I need to watch that.
• 25:31
  .
• 25:32
  There's so much other new stuff that I forgot about it.
• 25:35
  Plus I was in the process of moving and so I'm behind on everything.
• 25:38
  All right. Good enough. So that's on your queue now? Um, they'll,
• 25:42
  they'll see the discs cuz that's what Netflix does,
• 25:44
  but it's people are calling it woke and I'm like mother
• 25:49
  or no, it's not woke how the,
• 25:52
  this was written 25 years ago. How can it bitten 90?
• 25:58
  No. Yeah, it was written 30 years ago. Jackasses. It was written 30 years ago.
• 26:02
  How can it be woke? He was ahead of the curve.
• 26:05
  He was so far ahead of the curve that this is now.
• 26:10
  Now the rest of society is catching up to Neil Gaon so G good
• 26:15
  on you, Neil. I,
• 26:16
  I hope that Sam gets a second season cuz it was
• 26:21
  brilliant. It is.
• 26:23
  Visually, visually it was stunning like.
• 26:25
  Amazingly welled. Well, I mean,
• 26:28
  well cast people who were bitching about the young lady who plays death
• 26:33
  a again from Jersey. Fuck you that's yeah. It's she,
• 26:37
  she was pitched. Perfect. You could not find a better death.
• 26:43
  My one buddy's trying to get me to watch the Alfred was.
• 26:45
  Pennyworth I heard that was good. Yeah.
• 26:48
  He said it was phenomenal there. I guess there's a new season. I'm like crap.
• 26:51
  Another thing I gotta catch up with there's so much.
• 26:52
  They're coming out with something called Gotham nights with Miesha Collins and
• 26:56
  uh, I'm sure a whole bunch of Miesha Collins from, um, he played cast in.
• 27:02
  Supernatural's like Baywatch nights with I work at a night.
• 27:04
  Club. That'd be cool. Oh yeah. Yeah. Cast yell, uh, working in a nightclub.
• 27:11
  that was so bad. So now here's the thing like, are you a,
• 27:16
  are you a letter Kenny fan?
• 27:17
  No, I, you know what? I never got into letter Kenny and um, mainly because I,
• 27:22
  I usually binge stuff with my wife, like, like most of us, um,
• 27:27
  but she's,
• 27:28
  she's definitely like more of a to thing.
• 27:32
  She does her, you know, the, the rings of power and that's that's her shtick.
• 27:38
  Um,
• 27:39
  but I never got into letter Kenny mainly because I could,
• 27:44
  I could never tear away for like more than, you know, an hour to,
• 27:48
  to watch anything.
• 27:50
  See now when they dropped Shorey, in my opinion,
• 27:54
  Shorey was I par with Kenny powers and if anyone knows me,
• 27:58
  like Kenny powers like Elvis to me and like Shorey was like the most
• 28:02
  perfect show. Like you can get through it in, you know, four,
• 28:07
  three hours. Okay. The whole season. Um, and uh,
• 28:11
  and that's something you definitely don't wanna watch with your wife.
• 28:13
  It's a lot of your mom clap backs and it's a lot of, you know, um,
• 28:16
  it's guy to it's guy humor. But if you like, if you like, it's always sunny,
• 28:20
  like that kind banter. Yeah. If you like, like it's always,
• 28:25
  it's like the perfect it's like the Canadian accompaniment.
• 28:28
  Fantastic. And you know what, I'll actually watch it with my youngest son.
• 28:32
  Cause he's just one of he's he's got that sensibility
• 28:37
  about him.
• 28:39
  So like sure. He, between every period, you know, when they're playing hockey,
• 28:42
  he's gotta take a dump. So on the coaches yelling at him,
• 28:45
  he's dropping ass and then doing your mom clap X and just it's.
• 28:48
  Okay, cool. Now something I gotta watch.
• 28:52
  I see. Yeah. The, the poop humor sold me um.
• 28:56
  So.
• 28:57
  So I, I, you know,
• 28:58
  you brought up something interesting about working in the comic book store and
• 29:01
  uh, you know, we always used to joke, there was like the, you know, the,
• 29:04
  the comedians used to always rat on like the guys working at the harmony house
• 29:07
  going, oh, Richard Marks used to listen to that shit. You know,
• 29:11
  where there's always like that, that, you know,
• 29:13
  I know you don't thumb down on anyone,
• 29:15
  but like what do you have to at certain points when you got those people coming
• 29:19
  in complaining about characters, you got nothing to do with.
• 29:22
  Oh, then that happens like on a almost daily basis. But yeah,
• 29:26
  I just let 'em float off my back. It's mostly it's yeah.
• 29:29
  Whatever I get it. I, I feel that's, Hey,
• 29:34
  if I make the sale, I'm, I'm a hundred percent happy.
• 29:39
  Right, right. But I'm just like you, and I just imagine all day,
• 29:43
  not that you're in hell, but it's like comic book guy going in episode four of,
• 29:48
  you know, the, he, the scene was not written accurately to, you know, whatever.
• 29:52
  We get them all the time and yeah.
• 29:54
  I get people coming in and we're actually most of the time,
• 29:58
  they're huge fans of either Kevin and Jay or
• 30:03
  comic book men, which I, I, you know, what it's,
• 30:06
  it makes me feel great that, um,
• 30:09
  during the great pandemic of 2020,
• 30:13
  that so many people went back and re rewatched and re re
• 30:17
  rewatched comic book men. And I was like that, that makes me happy.
• 30:22
  You know, we were able to help people through the pandemic.
• 30:27
  It was a fun show. I mean, we had, uh, you were our, for the,
• 30:31
  you were the Jersey to our hardcore pond, which.
• 30:35
  Yeah. And I never met those people.
• 30:39
  We were weren't they supposed to be at, uh, the con we were at over in, uh,
• 30:45
  God, where was it? It was the, uh, the, oh, I'm blanking on the name.
• 30:51
  Mom. Clemens. Yes.
• 30:53
  Yeah. Gibralter.
• 30:54
  Yeah. Yeah. All.
• 30:55
  My.
• 30:56
  So we had, uh, we had Ashley in studio with us a couple times and uh,
• 31:00
  I got to go into their store.
• 31:02
  So their stores at old bowling alley on eight mile and
• 31:07
  I'm walked through and it's nothing like on TV, like it's kind of looks like a,
• 31:10
  like a, like a ratty flea market.
• 31:13
  Cause all the good stuff's been it's in the back pond. It's nothing's for sale.
• 31:17
  And I see this Jager surfboard up against the
• 31:22
  wall and I'm like, how much you want for it? And he goes, sticker says 500.
• 31:26
  I go, I go, ah, I'm not doing it for 500. They go, what do you gimme for it?
• 31:30
  I go, I don't know, a hundred bucks. She goes in the back room. She's like sold.
• 31:35
  So I walk out with this giant Jagermeister surfboard and I'm like,
• 31:38
  why that was even made to begin with. I have no idea,
• 31:40
  but it's sitting right next to me next to my flash Gordon painting and my Rodney
• 31:43
  Dangerfield tie.
• 31:44
  That's fantastic. Cuz I love, uh, used to love Jagermeister. So yeah.
• 31:52
  It's Octoberfest season.
• 31:54
  Right now. Of course. And it's also, uh, cold and flu season. So Jagermeister,
• 31:58
  um, you know, NyQuil, same thing.
• 32:02
  That was, uh, that was when I was eight years old. Mamy I don't feel good.
• 32:06
  Half shot Yager. Yeah. It can't be a, it can't be good. So, um,
• 32:11
  you're running in the store now. Uh, this, oh yeah. Good stash. Right?
• 32:15
  You're the, you're the, you're the head cheese, the main, the head honcho.
• 32:18
  That's for damn sure.
• 32:20
  Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean,
• 32:24
  what do do you guys have to,
• 32:25
  you guys have to be one step ahead or like comic book stores,
• 32:29
  like some of 'em have their own different flavors kind of what,
• 32:31
  based on like what they, like, what they know, what they're good at. Like,
• 32:35
  you know, obviously your shtick is Ja Jane sound Bob, right. But like, you know,
• 32:38
  in of like product content,
• 32:40
  like what are you guys like moving into like more this than that? Or, you know,
• 32:45
  are you just pretty much.
• 32:46
  We're uh, you know, we go for what sells, but you know, um,
• 32:50
  right now Kevin just kicked off, um,
• 32:53
  the secret stash press imprint, which is, uh,
• 32:57
  Kevin Kevin's like, um, Frank Miller,
• 33:02
  John burn, and a couple of other creators and Mike Magnolia,
• 33:07
  the Frank Miller in,
• 33:09
  in the fact that he's got his own imprint over at dark horse. So,
• 33:14
  uh, Kevin just came out with his first issue of maade,
• 33:18
  which is, um, it's, it's a superhero,
• 33:22
  very violent superhero, uh, story. Um, and,
• 33:26
  and you would dig it because it's in a Detroit que kind of city.
• 33:31
  And um, so they're going.
• 33:35
  Is that a play way to say shit?
• 33:37
  I said Detroit que city and I never said, I love Detroit. I don't think Detroit.
• 33:43
  I know you do it.
• 33:44
  Is so much. And I can't wait till, um, more people are like, Hey,
• 33:48
  Detroit's coming back. It's like, yeah, douche bag.
• 33:50
  It's been coming back for like the past 20 years where you, um.
• 33:55
  I got a whole, I got whole team from Texas coming up for work tomorrow and I,
• 33:59
  I open up my big mouth and now I gotta take 'em to all those dive bars and pizza.
• 34:03
  It. Uh, but yeah, this is, uh, Kevin Zim print.
• 34:07
  It's a really cool concept for, uh, a comic book for,
• 34:12
  for a superhero comic book, violent superhero, but superhero, nonetheless.
• 34:16
  And then, uh, we've got, uh, quick stops coming out in two months,
• 34:21
  which is, um, quick stops is,
• 34:25
  um,
• 34:27
  you get to go back and visit with some old friends at the quick stop.
• 34:35
  It can never be wrong. And it's.
• 34:38
  That store's open. Right. So when we come out there is that, oh.
• 34:41
  Yeah. Oh yeah, you can go there. Yeah, absolutely. You.
• 34:45
  How now I, how many assholes, uh,
• 34:49
  mess with the milk and the eggs and all that is, is that in like truly,
• 34:52
  is that a thing?
• 34:54
  I mean, I don't go there and I don't Jack, but I,
• 34:56
  I have no doubt in my mind every day.
• 35:00
  Kinda like, uh, when I walked up to Lacey underalls at the Macon and I said,
• 35:04
  you know, Novi must be a nice change from dreary old Manhattan.
• 35:07
  And she looked at me like an alien, like, and I go, I go, I thought Ja.
• 35:13
  Looks fantastic. Think Morgan looks amazing. Um,
• 35:18
  she hit, there was a, I think it was about eight or nine years ago.
• 35:24
  Um, I, I was supposed to podcast whether down in, um,
• 35:29
  where the hell was, it was down in Florida,
• 35:31
  down in Miami and she had to bow out because she was, you know,
• 35:35
  just busy as all hell. And, uh, I was supposed to podcast with her later on.
• 35:40
  It never happened, but she was a, a, it was really weird because she, um,
• 35:47
  and she's a beautiful woman. Uh, she dropped it gorgeous.
• 35:52
  She was a little puffy back then. And now she's like, boom, it's,
• 35:56
  she's gorgeous again at like eight years later,
• 36:00
  six 60, however old, she is like six.
• 36:06
  Yeah, the whole,
• 36:07
  the whole Madonna with meatballs that didn't rolled her eyes at that one too.
• 36:09
  I'm like, I thought that was.
• 36:11
  Original. I am throwing out my greatest TIS here, Lacey, what's going like, uh,
• 36:14
  first off, my name is Cindy. Uh,
• 36:17
  you're on that podcast with that guy who said I would look puffy eight years is
• 36:21
  a Dick. Um, shit, just a, a gorgeous woman.
• 36:26
  So yeah.
• 36:28
  So how do the, I mean,
• 36:29
  the working at that store and asking for Chewy's gum or like doing one
• 36:34
  liners, they got it like at, at the end of the day, just like, almost like, uh,
• 36:37
  the one scenery, uh, where Dante or no, uh, the spits on him,
• 36:41
  like Randall spits on him.
• 36:43
  I guess. I personally, I I'm at the comic shop. So that,
• 36:47
  that works for me. I'm, I'm fine with that.
• 36:51
  Well, I look forward to, uh, seeing you person, hell, it's been a while. Great.
• 36:55
  Um, yeah, looking forward to, uh, spending time, but you know,
• 36:59
  I'll cut you loose, man. I, I can't thank you enough for recording with us.
• 37:02
  And uh, you know, always, always enjoy.
• 37:04
  Of course, Bob, you too, Randy, even though Randy from, uh, next time,
• 37:09
  next time we do this, can you shut the up for just a minute?
• 37:13
  my.
• 37:14
  Head is pounding.
• 37:15
  I'll jump in and I have something to say,
• 37:17
  but Bob usually leads these conversations.
• 37:19
  Mike, at the last networking thing, Randy was holding court.
• 37:22
  I was so proud of him.
• 37:23
  He's like had his own little group and he's holding court.
• 37:25
  It was so nice to watch that.
• 37:27
  You're like a proud Papa.
• 37:29
  I was, I was our little Randy. Oh, girls up yo girls up. Um, but Hey,
• 37:34
  we're gonna wrap things up for this episode at 4 46, Mike Zick.
• 37:37
  Thank you for hanging out with us. You can find him online.
• 37:39
  Jane sound Bob's secret stash or, um,
• 37:42
  live from the secret stash podcast or anywhere fine podcast or sold on behalf of
• 37:47
  Bob and Randy. Do us all a favor, drink up your drinks, get your phone numbers.
• 37:49
  You don't gotta go home. You just gotta get the hell outta here.
• 37:52
  See you next week. Drive careful beat.