Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Dawn House Executive Officer Susan Crane is reminding victims of domestic violence about the support available after a spate of serious incidents
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- 0:00Speaker 1: But we know that there has been a serious spate
- 0:02Speaker 1: of domestic violence incidents over the last week in the
- 0:05Speaker 1: Northern Territory. In one incident that I did tell you
- 0:08Speaker 1: about earlier this morning, a man allegedly grabbed his partner
- 0:12Speaker 1: by the throat, tried to run her over, broke into
- 0:15Speaker 1: her home and took took her two year old girl.
- 0:19Speaker 1: In another incident, a twenty eight year old man allegedly
- 0:22Speaker 1: assaulted his former partner, dragging her by the hair before
- 0:26Speaker 1: breaking one of her fingers. In a separate incident, a
- 0:29Speaker 1: fifty year old man allegedly broke his partner's jaw. Police
- 0:33Speaker 1: are pleading with people to report domestic violence and reach
- 0:37Speaker 1: out for help. Now joining me on the line is
- 0:40Speaker 1: Dawn House Executive Officer Susan Crane. Good morning to you, Susan,
- 0:46Speaker 1: Good morning, Thanks so much for your time this morning. Susan,
- 0:49Speaker 1: what is your reaction to these incidents?
- 0:54Speaker 2: Well, it's very confronting, but it's not that it's anything new.
- 0:59Speaker 2: But the end of the violence and these incidents is
- 1:02Speaker 2: particularly worrying, isn't it.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Yeah, it's honestly, it's really hard to sort of hear
- 1:08Speaker 1: and I know that for a lot of people listening,
- 1:09Speaker 1: it will be really hard to hear. But as you've said,
- 1:11Speaker 1: it's confronting but nothing new.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Well, no it's not. The NT's got one of the
- 1:17Speaker 2: highest rates of domestic and family violence in Australia. So
- 1:21Speaker 2: that's the reason why both the NT government and agencies
- 1:25Speaker 2: like Dawn House so calling for the Commonwealth Government to
- 1:28Speaker 2: please considered funding us on needs based rather than population based.
- 1:33Speaker 1: And I think that that's a very reasonable call, you know,
- 1:36Speaker 1: like you've said that, obviously we do have high rates
- 1:39Speaker 1: of domestic violence here in the Northern Territory, so it
- 1:42Speaker 1: does make sense to me that it would be something
- 1:44Speaker 1: that happens on a needs based rather than your population.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right, and we have been saying that
- 1:53Speaker 2: for a long time to the Commonwealth Government. So you know,
- 1:56Speaker 2: we're hoping that at some stage of the message will
- 1:58Speaker 2: get through and they'll reconsider the way that we're funded
- 2:00Speaker 2: up here. Because agency is up here such as Dawnhouse.
- 2:04Speaker 2: We're just being hammered, you know, since the onset of COVID.
- 2:09Speaker 2: We were busy before, but we've never been so busy,
- 2:12Speaker 2: and that's been going on for the last two years.
- 2:14Speaker 2: We don't have a vacancy. Ever, we've got people lined
- 2:18Speaker 2: up waiting to get into the refuge, and you know,
- 2:21Speaker 2: sometimes we can't find anywhere to place people because everywhere
- 2:24Speaker 2: is full, which is really concerning.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what is the situation if you don't have
- 2:29Speaker 1: a place for somewhere someone and they've got nowhere else
- 2:32Speaker 1: to go? What happens?
- 2:34Speaker 2: Well, what we try and do is we've got some
- 2:37Speaker 2: Commonwealth money available so that we can provide accommodation to
- 2:41Speaker 2: women off site, and then we try to provide outreach
- 2:45Speaker 2: support to that person and their children. But sometimes, especially
- 2:50Speaker 2: in the Drive for example, it's very hard to do
- 2:53Speaker 2: that because a there's hardly any vacancy seen offside accommodation,
- 2:58Speaker 2: and be all of the hotel cost go up in
- 3:00Speaker 2: the dry season, which makes it really difficult for a
- 3:03Speaker 2: small organization like us to meet those costs. So unfortunately,
- 3:07Speaker 2: sometimes we're turning people away and we can't provide them
- 3:11Speaker 2: any alternative accommodation.
- 3:13Speaker 1: That must be incredibly difficult for you guys. You know,
- 3:17Speaker 1: everybody that will work, I'm sure with Dawnhouse wuld want
- 3:20Speaker 1: to be doing everything possible to try and help people.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's exactly right. You know, I've got a
- 3:26Speaker 2: fantastic team of really committed staff here who you know,
- 3:31Speaker 2: work tirelessly to provide support services to women and their
- 3:36Speaker 2: children escaping domestic violence. But you know, we've only got
- 3:39Speaker 2: two case managers here, so I can't keep on just
- 3:42Speaker 2: piling work more and more and more under staff because
- 3:45Speaker 2: there's only a limit as to what we can actually do.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Yeah, Susan, I know that you said you know that
- 3:50Speaker 1: from COVID you've seen an increase, but have those numbers
- 3:55Speaker 1: been quite high? Have people are presenting or coming to
- 3:58Speaker 1: drnhouse in recent weeks and months? Es?
- 4:02Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean an example is last Monday, we
- 4:04Speaker 2: had seven referrals in one day and we were full,
- 4:08Speaker 2: so we were scrambling around trying to find some alternative
- 4:13Speaker 2: accommodation for those people. I mean, sometimes we get referrals
- 4:16Speaker 2: and that people don't feed our criteria because their criteria
- 4:20Speaker 2: is women with children escaping domestic and family violence. So
- 4:23Speaker 2: we're unable to help women that identify as homeless, for example.
- 4:28Speaker 2: But yeah, the demand to far far outweighs the supply,
- 4:32Speaker 2: and it's been like that for years, Susan.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Can you talk us through what kind of assistance is
- 4:38Speaker 1: available to victims.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a range of services available. So there's free
- 4:44Speaker 2: legal advice through top End Women's Legal Service and Domestic
- 4:47Speaker 2: Violence Legal Service. There's shelters such as Dawnhouse. So there's
- 4:51Speaker 2: four shelters in Darwin, there's one in Noulan Boy, one
- 4:55Speaker 2: in Catherine, one in Tenant Creek, and one in Alice Springs.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Some of the communities have got safe houses there. There's
- 5:03Speaker 2: twenty eight safe houses across the Northern Territory. There's agencies
- 5:08Speaker 2: around which can help with emergency relief funding so that
- 5:12Speaker 2: can assist with things like food vouchers and that sort
- 5:14Speaker 2: of stuff. Women can come into the shelter and then
- 5:18Speaker 2: they'll be case managed by staff at the shelter and
- 5:22Speaker 2: they can stay for up to three months of intensive support.
- 5:25Speaker 2: We can provide outreach support. We can provide someone just
- 5:29Speaker 2: that if they need to ring up and just have
- 5:31Speaker 2: a chat with somebody, we're happy to talk through things
- 5:34Speaker 2: with people. There's specialist domestic violence counselors around. There's men's
- 5:41Speaker 2: behavior change programs for men that decide they might want
- 5:44Speaker 2: to change their behavior. So there's a whole range of
- 5:47Speaker 2: services available and diactively encourage not only people that are
- 5:51Speaker 2: experiencing violence themselves, but also for bystanders to be aware
- 5:56Speaker 2: of the services around so that maybe if they see
- 5:58Speaker 2: or know that there's domestic violence going on with someone
- 6:02Speaker 2: that they know they can actually provide them with some
- 6:04Speaker 2: referral points.
- 6:06Speaker 1: Susan, you did just spark my memory by saying that
- 6:08Speaker 1: there were those men's behavioral programs as well that are
- 6:12Speaker 1: on offer. I know that there was the changes about
- 6:16Speaker 1: a week and a half ago when it came to
- 6:18Speaker 1: mandatory sentencing, and it did impact or it does impact
- 6:21Speaker 1: from my understanding, some incidents of domestic violence. From your perspective,
- 6:27Speaker 1: how will those changes make much of a difference and
- 6:30Speaker 1: will they help victims?
- 6:34Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, the opportunity that magistrates have
- 6:38Speaker 2: to mandate that someone attends the men's behavior change program,
- 6:41Speaker 2: you know, could have a positive outcome for some people,
- 6:45Speaker 2: for some men that use violence. But you know, the
- 6:48Speaker 2: bottom line is that if a man's using violence against
- 6:50Speaker 2: his partner, he has to be prepared to make some
- 6:54Speaker 2: pretty big changes in the way that he behaves. So
- 6:57Speaker 2: for some people that would work, and maybe for some
- 6:59Speaker 2: people that wouldn't.
- 7:01Speaker 1: And Susan, with those programs as well, I mean, you've
- 7:05Speaker 1: touched on quite a few different programs, but with the
- 7:08Speaker 1: behavioral change programs, the rates fairly high. When it comes
- 7:13Speaker 1: to you to if someone's gone through a program like that,
- 7:17Speaker 1: do you generally see a change in their behavior.
- 7:21Speaker 2: That's really difficult for me to comment on because, Dawnhouse,
- 7:24Speaker 2: we don't actually run the men's behavior change program in Darwin.
- 7:28Speaker 2: That's run through Catholic Care, so they'll be the agency
- 7:31Speaker 2: that has all of the statistics. But we do have
- 7:36Speaker 2: a worker here that supports women whose partners are going
- 7:39Speaker 2: through the men's behavior Change program, and some of those
- 7:42Speaker 2: women do say that they have noticed a difference in
- 7:45Speaker 2: the way that their partners have behaved after attending that program.
- 7:49Speaker 2: And then some women say they don't see any change
- 7:51Speaker 2: at all, but I don't have no that's.
- 7:54Speaker 1: Okay, no, absolutely fine, We'll make sure that we follow
- 7:57Speaker 1: that up anyway. Susan. You know a lot of people
- 8:00Speaker 1: listening this morning, you know, may be fortunate enough to
- 8:03Speaker 1: not be in a relationship where there is any kind
- 8:06Speaker 1: of violence, to have been raised, in families where this
- 8:10Speaker 1: is not something that's ever been an issue in their lives.
- 8:13Speaker 1: Do you think that for some out there listening this
- 8:15Speaker 1: morning that it would actually be quite a surprise if
- 8:18Speaker 1: they realized some of the people that are actually going
- 8:22Speaker 1: through these really difficult situations with domestic violence.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is. It would be surprising because
- 8:31Speaker 2: maybe there's a general understanding out there that it's only people,
- 8:34Speaker 2: perhaps the lower socioeconomic areas that experience domestic violence. But
- 8:39Speaker 2: the statistics show that it affects everybody. There's not one
- 8:43Speaker 2: group more affected than the other. So you know, you
- 8:45Speaker 2: could have someone that's an executive director with the Northern
- 8:48Speaker 2: Territory government or someone that is clean houses. It can
- 8:53Speaker 2: affect anybody, regardless of their social standing.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Now, Susan, we obviously know that the federal budget is
- 9:00Speaker 1: being handed down tonight. Are you hoping that there is
- 9:03Speaker 1: going to be any funding or anything announced for the
- 9:06Speaker 1: Northern Territory when it comes to domestic violence.
- 9:10Speaker 2: I look absolutely there has to be, because you know
- 9:13Speaker 2: that I could just say from my service, we run
- 9:17Speaker 2: on the smell of an oily rag. We don't have
- 9:19Speaker 2: any fat in our budget at all. And what I'm
- 9:22Speaker 2: hoping is it unlike in the past where we keep
- 9:26Speaker 2: on getting these one off grants thrown at the Northern
- 9:29Speaker 2: Territory that the NT the Commonwealth government has listened and
- 9:34Speaker 2: will commit to some ongoing funding so that services such
- 9:38Speaker 2: as ours can tackle them domestic violence issue in the
- 9:41Speaker 2: Northern Territory.
- 9:42Speaker 1: I really appreciate your time this morning. I think it's
- 9:44Speaker 1: really important, you know, for people to get that insight
- 9:47Speaker 1: and certainly, you know, to understand a little bit more
- 9:50Speaker 1: about the issues that we have with domestic violence here
- 9:53Speaker 1: in the territory, Suason, is there anything else we should
- 9:55Speaker 1: be aware of before I let you go?
- 9:58Speaker 2: I guess I'll just say to people, if you're aware
- 10:00Speaker 2: that domestic is violence is going on, or you see
- 10:03Speaker 2: domestic violence happening, you know, please do something about it.
- 10:07Speaker 2: Don't just stand by and let it happen. Ring the
- 10:09Speaker 2: police intervene if it's safe, but at least do something
- 10:13Speaker 2: about it because it's everyone's responsibility.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good message to end on.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Susan.
- 10:18Speaker 1: We really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks so much
- 10:21Speaker 1: for speaking with us.
- 10:22Speaker 2: You're very welcome, Thank you, thank you.