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From Manifestation to Magnetism: Soreya James on Infinite Intelligence, Healing & Human Potential · Willow Healing Matters Podcast

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Welcome to Willow Healing Matters the podcast we are so excited
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us on this journey where we explore different ways to empower
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your soul whether
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world come with us
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SPEAKER_01: as we look into different ways to heal your mind body and soul
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SPEAKER_01: My virtual obsession,
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SPEAKER_01: my romantic thriller,
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SPEAKER_01: is now available on Amazon and other online retailers.
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SPEAKER_01: This book explores the intersection of loneliness,
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SPEAKER_01: love,
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and how chasing perfection through technology can lead to
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fantasy and reality
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SPEAKER_02: colliding.
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SPEAKER_02: My virtual obsession out now.
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Hey everybody and welcome to another episode of Willow Healing
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Matters and today
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SPEAKER_01: I'm joined by the lovely Soraya James.
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So she is a modern day yogi with 35 years lived experience in a
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personal transformation world.
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SPEAKER_01: Having trained with Tony Robb
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Brandon Bayes and Joe Dispenza as well as with yogis and
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masters from across the
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world Soraya brings a cross section of eastern and western
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philosophy and ancient
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technology to her work supporting and guiding clients from
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darkness to light
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SPEAKER_01: through one on
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SPEAKER_01: Retreats and Trainings Soraya taps into her human potential and infinite
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intelligence to be an inspiration to others to do the same she
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is the author of
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three books including Metamorphosis which is currently being
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written as a tv series
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welcome to the show it's so nice hearing people read about you
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isn't it it's like
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oh that's me it's kind of ah that's me I'm like I have a story
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funny aspect of me
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SPEAKER_00: but yeah it's really nice there's
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SPEAKER_01: So what is it like that your book is being turned into a TV series?
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SPEAKER_01: That's very cool.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's in the process of.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's not actually a TV series yet,
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SPEAKER_00: but it's in the right hands and going in the right direction.
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SPEAKER_00: And in all honesty,
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I don't know how many years it takes for a production like this
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to happen,
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SPEAKER_00: but it's an eight part TV series based on the book.
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SPEAKER_00: And yeah, watch the space, I suppose.
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SPEAKER_01: That is so exciting.
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SPEAKER_01: But I failed to ask you.
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35 years as a yogi,
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a trainee from so many people well-known in our little
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spiritual world.
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SPEAKER_01: What led you down that path in the first place?
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I was 19 when I first, I guess, was introduced to
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SPEAKER_00: What we call personal or what we called personal development back then.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't think those words are bandied around so much now.
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SPEAKER_00: So yeah,
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you know when you arrive at a place in your life and you just
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kind of know like
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SPEAKER_00: this is what I'm meant to be doing.
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SPEAKER_00: This is the
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SPEAKER_00: I was found at a really young age and I found myself in a room full of
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misfits and crazies that I felt completely at home with and the
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particular work
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that we did on that three day that very first three day
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workshop was such a huge
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turning point in my life that I knew that this is my path so
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once you're on it
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as you'll know you can't get off it or you can try but life
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just brings you
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straight back on it's like no this is where you're meant to be
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or you end up doing
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something incredibly radical right and slam the door and then
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the universe is like
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all right we heard you but just wait for next lifetime time off
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but we're bringing
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you back on I mean there's just nothing else I'd rather be
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doing or I can't imagine
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SPEAKER_00: my life any other way you know and in that time of
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SPEAKER_00: Parented solo and traveled and done all sorts of amazing things.
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SPEAKER_00: But this path is ruthless.
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SPEAKER_00: I know, but we signed up for it, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So who cares?
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It's just if we didn't sign up for it and if we weren't
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choosing to incarnate at
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SPEAKER_01: this time,
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SPEAKER_01: then it just wouldn't be the same,
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SPEAKER_01: right?
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SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't feel the same.
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SPEAKER_01: It wouldn't be the same.
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And I guess this is where we segue into what you're doing with
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your clients now,
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SPEAKER_01: which is transformational coaching,
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SPEAKER_01: right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know if you'd call it that.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean... That's the word...
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Someone the other day said, you're a metamorphosis.
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SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh, I like that.
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SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like the journey with the therapist, but on the end.
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SPEAKER_00: But, you know, every client I work with is so vastly different.
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And you can call it coaching or you can call it therapy or you
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can call it whatever you like.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's the journeys are all very,
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SPEAKER_00: very bespoke and curated for each and every client,
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SPEAKER_00: depending on where they're at and what they need.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's always so different.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: So different,
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SPEAKER_00: where you've got 35 years of lived experience plus all the tools,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: nothing's ever the same.
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SPEAKER_00: Whereas some practitioners have methodologies and frameworks,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like,
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SPEAKER_00: I work with the universe.
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SPEAKER_01: I love this so much,
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SPEAKER_01: Saria,
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SPEAKER_01: because when I have clients come in,
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SPEAKER_01: they're like,
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SPEAKER_01: hey,
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SPEAKER_01: how do you work with people?
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I don't know, it's whatever their spirit guides tell me.
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I don't know it's whatever I'm meant to be in that moment for
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them sometimes they
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need to lay down and go into energy healing sometimes they need
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to talk it out and
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we tap into the universe and get answers to the questions
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sometimes we need to put
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some things in action and put a business plan in place you know
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channeling that
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through but it's whatever they need in that moment and it's
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always perfect for them
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SPEAKER_00: right exactly yeah so when people say what do you do it's like oh my gosh
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I always say come and have the experience and they're like no
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like okay well I
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can't explain it because your mind's going to try and create
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some kind of form
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around it anyway so you know what's been really fun playing
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with ChatGPT to get a
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label for what I do because it's really interesting right what
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gets reflected back
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at you yeah I went into Claude which is a more sophisticated
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version of ChatGPT and
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SPEAKER_00: even then I was just like I get it
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from everything that I've ever done and all this time like how
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would you how would
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you label what it is and that this is where the metamorphosis
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came up and I was
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like that's kind of cool I don't know anyone that's called that
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but then people
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would say what's a metamorphosis and it's a really big word and
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I'd go I'd still
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SPEAKER_00: have to explain it
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like that's what a caterpillar goes through to become a
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butterfly much like we do
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that's how I would explain it yeah I do I'm like it's like the
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human metamorphic
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experience but what is that it was really interesting because
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it came back with
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something I really liked which was a soul activator and I'm
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like yeah that's what I
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do but then that wasn't really resonant with the people that I
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was getting and what
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most people were coming through for was to be in touch with
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their intuition but
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SPEAKER_01: intuition has got such a woo word like woo
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kind of,
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you know,
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feeling around it rather than that's actually what we all have.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, so then it's like you're an inner authority guide.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh, I like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: That requires some explaining.
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SPEAKER_00: So Joe blogs down the street, what's an inner authority guide?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's learning how to listen to yourself and ignore everybody else.
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SPEAKER_01: And this is where you can have fun with that, right?
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SPEAKER_01: But again, it's really hard to put it in a box.
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And I remember channeling through when I was writing my book
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and it came through
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SPEAKER_01: and it said,
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SPEAKER_01: why are humans?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm obsessed with putting ourselves in boxes.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, yeah, why?
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SPEAKER_01: Why is that?
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And it's because the 3D still need a title and the 3D still
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need something that
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SPEAKER_01: they can explain.
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Whereas other people just leave and go,
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wow,
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I felt amazing after working with Soraya.
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SPEAKER_01: It was amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: I can't explain it fully, but it was just life changing.
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SPEAKER_00: The labels, the titles and the roles.
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SPEAKER_01: So what is your passion at the moment?
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I know sometimes we get lots of different things,
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but what is your passion right at this moment?
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SPEAKER_00: Right at this moment, it's this conversation.
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Outside of this conversation,
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what I'm really passionate about is expanding the human spirit.
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I've always been so curious as to how some humans play their
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life this way and how
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SPEAKER_00: some humans play their life this way and that this is destiny.
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But everyone has a destiny that they can reach and why some
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people are more
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SPEAKER_00: obstructed to that or have the depth of self-belief that there's just no
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SPEAKER_00: possibility that that could ever happen.
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SPEAKER_00: Life and then the complete opposite.
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So I'm really passionate about watching people at the moment
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really rise into their
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absolute brightest light and recognizing that in myself and
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everyone around us and
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then using my work to elevate and to bring that magnetism
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radiance out in other
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SPEAKER_00: people.
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And I've been always doing that in a way,
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but it's like really amplified at the moment.
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SPEAKER_00: So the groups I'm speaking to much larger,
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SPEAKER_00: like the book going out,
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SPEAKER_00: the television series being written.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like it's time to just amplify all of this energy and take no for,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: no is not an answer.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a complete word.
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SPEAKER_00: I get it.
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SPEAKER_00: But like just not taking no for an answer.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: My passion is getting stronger.
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SPEAKER_00: My purpose is getting bigger.
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SPEAKER_00: The light's getting brighter.
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SPEAKER_00: And when you come into your mid-50s,
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SPEAKER_00: there is a point where you're just like zero tolerance for any shit.
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SPEAKER_00: Excuse me.
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SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Swear away.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll just put the rating on it.
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Or I'm more and more passionate about my work and who it
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affects and how it affects
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SPEAKER_00: people now more than ever.
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So when people come up with excuses,
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I'm just like,
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no,
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that's not the truth.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not the truth.
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SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
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SPEAKER_00: Not taking it.
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SPEAKER_01: My favorite is why not?
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SPEAKER_01: They're like, what?
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, why not?
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SPEAKER_01: Why can't you do that?
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I'm like but why not and they're like what do you mean I was
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like why not like why
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can't that be a possibility why can't that happen for you you
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know why can't you go
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start a podcast or write a book or write a song or you know and
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do it for you first
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and foremost do it for you and then see what magic happens
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after that and let it
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let it go my mantra at the moment when someone comes up with
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something I go that's
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SPEAKER_00: just your limited mind what does the infinite intelligence say
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SPEAKER_00: and they're like, what?
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SPEAKER_00: That is your limited mind.
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SPEAKER_00: What does the infinite intelligence inside of you say?
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And it just gets their mind going,
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what do you mean infinite intelligence?
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SPEAKER_00: You know,
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SPEAKER_00: the part of you that's growing your hair at the moment,
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SPEAKER_00: beating your heart,
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SPEAKER_00: creating your digestive system to do this thing,
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SPEAKER_00: moving your fingers without you thinking about it.
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SPEAKER_00: They're like, wow.
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SPEAKER_00: Go ponder on that.
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SPEAKER_01: Go to a bigger space, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Love that.
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SPEAKER_01: It's so interesting.
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SPEAKER_01: I had this client last night and
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SPEAKER_01: I said, if you could do anything in the world, what would it be?
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SPEAKER_01: He's like, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, hmm, I think you do.
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SPEAKER_01: Anyway, and then I said, well, what do you want to do?
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And then we just kept talking and he's like,
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oh my goodness,
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I love rollerblading.
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He goes,
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I actually just want to rollerblade through every country in
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the world.
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SPEAKER_01: And I said, oh, there we go.
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SPEAKER_01: Why not?
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SPEAKER_01: If you could do anything in the world right now, you'd rollerblade.
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SPEAKER_01: He goes, yeah, walking's just boring because I can't.
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I said great I said why can't that be a thing I said you could
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you know keep a blog
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on it you could write like a little like I do a blog or you
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could you know there's
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so much you could do with that you know that would be really
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cool and you'd have so
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SPEAKER_01: much fun doing it he's like
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yeah I could do that he goes yeah that'd be so much fun I said
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wouldn't you like to
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live that way every day and he's like yes so sometimes people
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know right because
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their infinite intelligence does know it's just they need to
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help get that support
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to get it pulled out of them yeah and to believe in them that
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they can believe in
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SPEAKER_01: themselves as well yes a hundred percent I feel that that's um a lot of
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SPEAKER_01: conditioning and like when you were commenting before about
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observing people who have like all these limiting kind of
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beliefs around themselves
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it's amazing when you start to rip them away and you see where
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they come from or
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you start to step yourself out of that how you just look back
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and I actually had to
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grieve like I had this really I had an entity attached that was
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there for a safety
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thing but when I but it actually brought doubt into everything
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I did and when I
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SPEAKER_01: removed it we're going very woo here but when I removed it um
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I actually had to mourn because I could see all the places in
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my life that I could
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SPEAKER_01: have done something bigger or grander or,
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SPEAKER_01: you know,
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SPEAKER_01: had that thing.
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SPEAKER_01: But the doubt got in the way.
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SPEAKER_00: That's what I call the core wound.
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The core wound until we actually can access that or have
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someone support us to access that.
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SPEAKER_00: It remains in place that just filters through every aspect of your life.
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SPEAKER_00: And sometimes it's subtle and sometimes it's strong.
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And most people go a whole lifetime without actually working at
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the level of the
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SPEAKER_00: core wound and also stay really stuck.
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SPEAKER_00: There's just so much suffering, unnecessary suffering.
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SPEAKER_00: But most people just don't have the ability,
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SPEAKER_00: the understanding,
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SPEAKER_00: the awareness to be able to support themselves,
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SPEAKER_00: let alone invite somebody else in to hold them.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of people are just taking a pill, aren't they?
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SPEAKER_00: Numbing.
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or going into therapy that takes forever and forever and
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forever and never actually
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SPEAKER_00: get anywhere.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: There's all those beautiful therapists out there,
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SPEAKER_00: but there are much more powerful,
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SPEAKER_00: quicker ways these days.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't have time to muck around.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_01: and I remember someone saying to me,
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why would you just keep talking about your trauma and not
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actually choose to feel
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SPEAKER_01: and move out of it?
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SPEAKER_01: Because that's what ends up happening.
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SPEAKER_01: You end up talking about it every single time.
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SPEAKER_01: And I remember I was in a Dr.
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SPEAKER_01: John Demartini seminar and he was talking about this and he goes,
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SPEAKER_01: your brain's just seeking a balance.
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SPEAKER_01: It's looking for something to help you move out of the trauma.
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If you keep reliving the negative aspect of it and don't find
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the positive elements
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SPEAKER_01: of it,
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it's never going to feel balanced and it's just going to keep
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replaying again and
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SPEAKER_01: again and filter out into your life.
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SPEAKER_00: Constant Loop And the mind also requires validation.
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SPEAKER_00: So if you're sitting there with a therapist and they're validating,
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SPEAKER_00: supporting your story with empathy,
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SPEAKER_00: sometimes it's like,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm going to keep telling this,
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SPEAKER_00: I'm going to stay in it.
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So yeah,
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the old style of psychotherapy,
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psychology is very clever at keeping you stuck.
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SPEAKER_01: And it keeps you in the victim loop, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Because you're looking for the exception.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, agreed.
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SPEAKER_01: There is exceptional ones,
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SPEAKER_01: but then at the same time,
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they can be restricted by the code of conduct that they have to
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operate in.
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SPEAKER_01: So there's no,
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SPEAKER_01: we have no malice towards therapists,
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SPEAKER_01: but it's just,
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this is the framework that they've been taught and they have to
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operate within,
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SPEAKER_01: which when we step more into what we do,
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SPEAKER_01: Soraya,
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SPEAKER_01: there is no framework,
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SPEAKER_01: like you said at the very start.
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SPEAKER_01: You just go, all right.
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SPEAKER_01: What are we doing today?
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And I trust I have the tools and if not,
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spirit's going to give them to me.
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SPEAKER_01: And giving your client a hug at the end of the session.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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Being relatable and being close and connected and following up
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with people because
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SPEAKER_00: we genuinely care.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not because we're following a career path.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I have qualifications, don't get me wrong.
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SPEAKER_00: I have many, many, many qualifications.
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SPEAKER_00: But no one's ever asked me for a certificate.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't have them up on the wall.
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SPEAKER_00: There's no letters after them.
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SPEAKER_00: It just doesn't feel important.
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What feels important is when somebody is sitting in front of
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you that your genuine
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heart is open to support that person and whatever they need for
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however long.
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SPEAKER_00: They're not on the clock.
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SPEAKER_00: It's not all sessions over now.
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SPEAKER_00: It's hold on a minute.
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SPEAKER_00: There's something else here.
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SPEAKER_00: Not cutting them off.
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SPEAKER_00: Mid-emotional release or whatever it might be.
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Biggest thing I learned last year was not to think of it as an
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hourly rate,
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but a session rate.
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SPEAKER_01: Like it's just however long the work needs to happen.
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SPEAKER_01: And I have a contract too where for two weeks afterwards,
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SPEAKER_01: I'll keep getting downloads or things to help them integrate.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I say to them, you might hear from me in the next two weeks.
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SPEAKER_01: I might be a bit annoying, but it's just to help you anchor things in.
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SPEAKER_01: But please at the same time, reach out to me.
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SPEAKER_01: It's not like I'm kicking you out the door.
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SPEAKER_01: Exactly like you said, I do care.
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SPEAKER_01: And I want to know that you're okay,
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SPEAKER_01: even outside this session,
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SPEAKER_01: because sometimes the integration can be the messy part too,
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SPEAKER_01: especially when you've stepped into a new version of you.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 100%.
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SPEAKER_00: We're on the same page, Catherine.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: I know.
16:30
SPEAKER_00: And I love these conversations.
16:33
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
16:34
SPEAKER_01: They're telling me to ask you about manifestation.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: So I'm just going to ask you, tell me about manifestation.
16:40
SPEAKER_00: For me, it's an old fashioned word.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: It's something that,
16:43
SPEAKER_00: you know,
16:44
SPEAKER_00: like many,
16:44
SPEAKER_00: many,
16:45
SPEAKER_00: many,
16:45
SPEAKER_00: many years ago when I was training with Brandon Bayes,
16:47
SPEAKER_00: we did the manifestation retreats.
16:51
SPEAKER_00: And it just feels kind of like an old technology now.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: For me now, it's all about magnetism.
16:57
Manifestation feels like it's something that we are doing to
17:01
get something,
17:02
SPEAKER_00: to bring something material to.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: into our world.
17:06
I want to manifest a new relationship,
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a beautiful whatever,
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whatever,
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fill in the blank.
17:11
Whereas magnetism is you are creating more or less dross in the
17:17
magnetic field
17:18
SPEAKER_00: around us,
17:19
SPEAKER_00: more spaciousness,
17:20
SPEAKER_00: more radiance,
17:22
SPEAKER_00: more vitality.
17:24
SPEAKER_00: which creates then less heaviness and what have you.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: And when you have a magnetism about you,
17:32
SPEAKER_00: you don't have to think about writing down what you want to manifest.
17:36
SPEAKER_00: You don't have to do all the processes.
17:38
You just automatically magnetize the very thing to you that the
17:43
divine or the
17:45
SPEAKER_00: universe wants for you to have.
17:47
SPEAKER_00: You don't even really need to think about it.
17:48
And that's where that experience of,
17:51
oh God,
17:52
I couldn't have written my life...
17:54
SPEAKER_00: in this way.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: If someone had said to me,
17:56
SPEAKER_00: I would be doing this,
17:58
SPEAKER_00: you know,
17:58
SPEAKER_00: a year ago,
17:59
SPEAKER_00: I would have been like,
18:00
SPEAKER_00: no way.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, that's the divine plan.
18:02
SPEAKER_00: That's being a magnetic being.
18:04
And women,
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especially like that,
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you know,
18:06
the heart field around us is so incredibly vast.
18:10
SPEAKER_00: That when we are in our magnetism, it's just incredible what shows up.
18:15
SPEAKER_00: So I work very,
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SPEAKER_00: very strongly every day or intentionally,
18:20
SPEAKER_00: I should say,
18:20
to keep my magnetic field really clear so that only love and
18:25
abundance and
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SPEAKER_00: prosperity and all these beautiful things can be magnetized towards me.
18:31
and vice versa like who are the people out there that need my
18:35
light so keeping that
18:36
feeling really cool so yeah manifestation people when talk
18:39
about people talk about
18:40
manifestation I'm like that's so 1980s get with the program
18:45
we've updated our
18:46
frequency and dimensions here I mean people say you're such an
18:49
amazing manifester
18:50
and I'm like I am because I'm magnetic I'm literally drawing
18:55
you know the things
18:56
the people the places the experiences to me and it's not what I
19:00
have to do really
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SPEAKER_01: and
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And I love that refrain because it's almost like taking your
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power back,
19:05
right?
19:05
Because when you're manifesting,
19:07
you're putting it out there and hoping it comes to you.
19:10
SPEAKER_01: Whereas when you're being magnetic,
19:12
you're attracting it to you when you know it's your power
19:14
that's pulling it in.
19:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:16
SPEAKER_00: Like when the secret came out and whenever that was,
19:18
SPEAKER_00: you know,
19:18
SPEAKER_00: everyone was like,
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wow,
19:20
SPEAKER_00: it's amazing.
19:21
But I remember watching it and going,
19:22
they've forgotten a really fundamental piece.
19:25
And that is like what to actually do in the body of the
19:28
magnetic field in order to manifest.
19:31
or have these things come into the field that are already there
19:34
waiting for the match.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: But I noticed recently that same group,
19:39
like Joe Dispenser and Greg Brayden and I can't remember who
19:41
the others are,
19:42
SPEAKER_00: Lisa Nichols,
19:44
SPEAKER_00: they've just put out another movie called Frequency.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: So of course there's the evolution, right?
19:51
SPEAKER_00: But I think, oh, I've been working with this stuff for years.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Like how are they so behind?
19:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: I guess it's like the same with science, right?
19:58
Like we've been grounding and walking around barefoot and
20:01
hugging trees because we
20:02
SPEAKER_01: know it helps regulate our nervous system.
20:04
SPEAKER_01: But now that science is showing that grounding,
20:07
SPEAKER_01: aka what they call earthing,
20:09
SPEAKER_01: works,
20:10
SPEAKER_01: it helps regulate you because you are an electromagnetic being.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: All of a sudden, it's okay.
20:15
SPEAKER_00: So true.
20:16
SPEAKER_00: Because I was trying to have that anchor, don't they?
20:19
SPEAKER_00: They need validation or verification.
20:22
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
20:26
Yeah,
20:27
I understand now why I asked you that question because I just
20:29
didn't ask her about it.
20:31
SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, no, that makes perfect sense.
20:33
SPEAKER_01: And I feel to it,
20:34
SPEAKER_01: I had someone on the guest a few shows ago and she was talking about,
20:37
SPEAKER_01: you know,
20:37
SPEAKER_01: reclaiming your sovereignty because,
20:40
SPEAKER_01: you know,
20:40
when you realize how powerful you really are and how much you
20:44
can create in your
20:45
SPEAKER_01: life.
20:45
SPEAKER_01: And I know that's like the whole manifesting thing,
20:48
SPEAKER_01: but you can magnetize things when you are in alignment,
20:51
SPEAKER_01: especially when you're in alignment with your vision and your dream.
20:54
And I want to put the caveat there because sometimes we try and
20:56
magnetize things
20:57
but the universe knows that we shouldn't magnetize those things
21:01
and they don't come
21:02
and then we'll go you know this isn't fair why isn't this
21:05
happening rather than
21:06
maybe there's something bigger at play and something better is
21:09
coming along Get out
21:10
SPEAKER_00: of the way
21:11
SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
21:12
SPEAKER_01: Hey, I've got something so much better for you.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 100%.
21:16
SPEAKER_01: So even for me,
21:17
SPEAKER_01: like I had this vision of co-creating like a spirit school on earth,
21:22
SPEAKER_01: essentially.
21:22
SPEAKER_01: But I was like, you know, am I still meant to be doing this?
21:26
SPEAKER_01: And
21:26
SPEAKER_01: Catherine Crestani willowhealing
21:41
like thank you spirit you know reinforcement and again
21:44
magnetize that person
21:45
because I was asking for that feedback and I was asking for
21:49
more alignment to to
21:50
pull them into my field so it does happen or you know you're
21:54
like oh is this the
21:56
right thing I'm meant to be doing can I see a sign or something
21:59
and then the rest
22:00
of the day it's repeating numbers or you know white feathers or
22:04
however it shows up
22:05
SPEAKER_00: for you
22:06
SPEAKER_00: For me, it's what lights me up and what brings me alive.
22:10
I had lunch with a girlfriend the other day and we were talking
22:13
about the work that
22:14
SPEAKER_00: we're doing and then all of a sudden I talked about this project that I'm
22:18
working on about a stage show and bringing metamorphosis to the
22:22
you know the big
22:23
stage and I was like and she goes you realize how much this
22:26
lights you up like this
22:28
is what you have to do and I'm like oh yeah you know and I get
22:31
so excited and then
22:32
something came through today with a sort of an old way of
22:35
working and I was writing
22:38
SPEAKER_00: the email to this
22:39
SPEAKER_00: person and I was going, I don't want to do this.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: If I press that send button, I'm going to regret it.
22:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to do the thing that just made me feel heavy in my body.
22:49
So I'm like,
22:49
what brings lightness and expansion in our body is what we move
22:53
towards.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
22:54
and that is such a I actually had this experience a few weeks
22:58
ago I love that you
22:59
brought this up and there was this opportunity I got presented
23:02
with and on paper
23:03
was everything I was asking for and I didn't get my body didn't
23:07
do the hell yes so
23:08
SPEAKER_01: when it's a hell yes for
23:09
I get the goosebumps I get that full visceral reaction like you
23:12
said you feel light
23:13
you're excited I wasn't getting that and I couldn't figure out
23:16
why and so I said
23:17
look I just have to sit with it can I get back to you within 24
23:21
hours okay yeah not
23:23
a problem and so I start with it and I'm like is it about the
23:25
investment and I was
23:27
like no it's something deeper and then I went actually I don't
23:30
want to do that
23:31
SPEAKER_01: anymore I want this project to finish up
23:34
so I can have a break from it and if I commit to this then I'm
23:37
not going to have
23:38
that flexibility to step back and I need to do that and it was
23:42
and I just cried
23:43
SPEAKER_01: because I was like oh my goodness it makes so much sense so I wrote
23:46
I wrote to the person I said you know thank you so much really
23:49
appreciate it but I
23:50
sat with it and actually I wanted to finish up this project and
23:53
if I commit to you
23:54
then I can't do that and then I didn't hear anything and I was
23:57
like thank you your
23:58
silence means everything so I appreciate that as well Well it's
24:01
the desperate mind
24:03
that latches on to an old form or an old identity and it takes
24:07
a lot of trust to
24:09
stay with that infinite nature of the self that is going to
24:12
propel us forward and
24:14
SPEAKER_00: open us into the possibilities that
24:16
SPEAKER_00: that life has for us.
24:19
SPEAKER_00: I didn't get that thing,
24:20
so I'm going to fall back into what I know and what is
24:23
comfortable rather than just
24:25
SPEAKER_00: being a little patient.
24:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, divine timing and not friends, if I'm honest, Torea.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm a little like that too.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: It's like I want to now.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: Stop showing me my future timelines and then I have to wait.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Yes, so true, isn't it?
24:40
SPEAKER_00: It's going to happen in our time.
24:43
like there is no linear time in terms of the universe like what
24:51
is that my favorite
24:52
is they like soon I'm like okay like this week next week next
24:57
month what's
24:58
SPEAKER_01: Soon!
24:58
SPEAKER_01: And they go, soon, soon, soon.
25:01
And I guess the human part of us wants to stick onto those
25:04
timelines,
25:05
right?
25:05
I have so many people that I work with and they're like,
25:07
but when will that happen?
25:08
SPEAKER_01: I said, look, about three to six months.
25:10
SPEAKER_01: I can't give you an exact timeline because it's not just you.
25:13
I said,
25:14
there's all these other people involved and they have to step
25:17
into where they are.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: And I said,
25:19
SPEAKER_01: so I can give you a timeline,
25:20
but then you're going to maybe miss what happens because you're
25:23
too busy holding
25:24
SPEAKER_01: onto the timeline because it could be quicker,
25:26
SPEAKER_01: it could be slower.
25:28
you know especially if people are like where's this person
25:30
going to come into my
25:31
life or when's this business opportunity going to come in or
25:35
when is that going to
25:35
be you know now we can say magnetized to me but at the same
25:39
time it's like well the
25:40
more you work on yourself and stay open the more likely it is
25:43
to happen but if
25:44
you're holding on to that timeline it has to happen within
25:48
three to six months
25:50
then you're actually conditioning it and then if it doesn't
25:53
happen in that time
25:54
frame you're going to give up on it rather than just being open
25:56
and allowing it to
25:58
keep calling it in like you said keep trying to magnetize well
26:01
not trying but keep
26:01
magnetizing what you want to bring into your field and who are
26:05
we as other humans
26:07
to tell somebody else when something specific is going to
26:10
happen as well many times
26:14
SPEAKER_00: and I'm like well I'm giving my power away here
26:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
26:17
and I found the more that I rely on other people's input onto
26:21
when something's
26:22
SPEAKER_01: going to occur,
26:22
SPEAKER_01: the less likely it is going to occur.
26:26
SPEAKER_01: So sometimes I'm like,
26:27
just let me know it's going to happen or not going to happen
26:29
and just leave out the
26:30
SPEAKER_01: other bits so I can hold on to that.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: It is going to happen and I can, you know, keep pulling it in.
26:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: The universe is going to do that for us anyway when we tune in.
26:40
SPEAKER_01: And when we're in flow.
26:41
SPEAKER_01: And like you said, no is not an answer.
26:43
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: As long as it's aligned.
26:47
SPEAKER_01: We'll put the caveat there.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's important.
26:50
Sometimes it definitely needs to be a no because you were so
26:53
far down the wrong path.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: Something needs to slam you back into the right section.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: And as we start to finish our time together, Soraya, I asked the
27:01
I guess that come on the show if you could heal or change
27:03
something in the world
27:05
what would it be I would just love so much for everybody to be
27:08
kind to each other
27:09
that's the one thing that really breaks my heart when I
27:13
experience the lack of
27:14
human kindness you know whether it's bullying online or someone
27:19
speaking horribly
27:19
to another person you know all the things that we hear it's
27:23
just the wars I mean
27:25
SPEAKER_00: let's go you know it's like
27:27
Imagine if every day everybody woke up and chose to be kind to
27:33
themselves,
27:33
SPEAKER_00: whatever that looked like,
27:35
SPEAKER_00: and then kind to one other person,
27:38
SPEAKER_00: the difference that would make.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: That's my greatest prayer.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: And I often, you'll find me saying that more than anything.
27:44
If someone is gossiping about someone or saying something nasty
27:48
about themselves,
27:49
I'll say,
27:49
what would kindness say what would kindness do right now or
27:53
what would love say
27:54
what would love do and it really shocks people out of their
27:57
nasty little world you
27:58
know or I'll say that's not very kind and they'll be like and
28:02
your response to me
28:04
saying that's not kind either yeah yeah that gets me like
28:08
please just be kind to
28:10
one another I am I was in Bunnings which I'm sure you have them
28:13
in yourself in the
28:15
hardware store if you're listening from America I don't know
28:17
what the equivalent
28:18
SPEAKER_01: would be but anyways
28:20
So and I smiled at someone because I like smiling at people
28:23
because you never know
28:24
right it's like such a simple act of kindness and she actually
28:28
came up to me and
28:30
SPEAKER_01: she said thank you for smiling at me so honestly and I was like
28:35
Oh I don't know what to do with this part of the interaction
28:37
because that's never
28:38
happened before and I said you're welcome I said I genuinely
28:44
just smile at people
28:45
and hope it warms them up and she's like oh she goes well you
28:48
keep doing that
28:49
because it brightened my day and I was like thank you that's so
28:52
beautiful she even
28:53
SPEAKER_01: came up and gave that feedback but I guess this is where
28:58
Kindness can be,
28:59
it doesn't cost you anything,
29:00
you know,
29:01
a smile doesn't cost you anything.
29:03
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes even when you're feeling sad,
29:05
SPEAKER_01: you know,
29:05
SPEAKER_01: still being kind in that moment can change your energy as well.
29:10
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: So that's what I'd like to change in the world.
29:14
And if I can make those little changes in my everyday life,
29:18
then that's making a difference.
29:20
SPEAKER_01: 100%.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: and if people want to come and find you,
29:23
Soraya will work with you or find your book before it becomes a
29:26
TV series because
29:27
SPEAKER_01: we know it's going to happen,
29:28
SPEAKER_01: right?
29:29
SPEAKER_01: Divine timing.
29:30
SPEAKER_01: Exactly, divine timing.
29:32
SPEAKER_01: Where can they go?
29:33
SPEAKER_01: Soraya James.
29:35
SPEAKER_01: Easy book.
29:37
available there book a consultation I love just chatting to
29:41
people 15 minute chat
29:42
with a woman today and she's like it's like I want to do
29:45
everything with you and I
29:45
said why don't you just start small and order the you know the
29:50
book's a digital
29:50
copy in a digital version because it's a journey that I take
29:54
people on with music
29:55
SPEAKER_00: and breath work and meditations and like it's a real
29:59
you know beautiful experience and you can't get that quite out
30:03
of a printed version
30:04
of what I've created and so I said just do that next minute
30:08
she's purchasing it and
30:09
she's like oh my god I've already helped you know halfway
30:12
through the first chapter
30:13
and it's amazing and it's like just those little it doesn't
30:17
have to be like work
30:18
with me for a year because I only work with three clients a
30:20
year but these little
30:21
SPEAKER_00: touch points
30:22
and I feel too thank you for just saying if you're curious
30:25
that's when you go look
30:26
right if you're curious about it go have a peek and just see
30:30
you might download the
30:31
book or you might just join the newsletter or you might do
30:34
something because you
30:35
never know just follow that little curiosity because that is
30:39
you magnetizing
30:40
SPEAKER_01: something to you when the student is ready the teacher will appear
30:43
That is beautiful and I'll make sure to put all those details
30:46
in the show notes so
30:47
people can find you and if anyone is listening and you enjoyed
30:51
this episode please
30:52
feel free to like share and subscribe or go check out Soraya's
30:56
work get her book be
30:58
be curious about how you can reclaim the power in your life and
31:02
magnetize what you
31:03
want so thank you Soraya for this conversation and thank you so
31:07
much for being on
31:08
SPEAKER_01: the show oh thank you it's wonderful
31:10
SPEAKER_01: Wonderful.
31:11
SPEAKER_01: Hey beautiful souls,
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31:40
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31:44
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31:45
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