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FULL SHOW: Chris Brown Addresses Backlash Over Jasmine Crockett Honoring Him + Danielle Brooks & Jessica Tarlov Interview · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Woke up, woke up, wake you up, wake you up,
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  Speaker 1: wake that ass up, program your alarm to power 105.1
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  Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, USA! <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
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  Speaker 1: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
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  Speaker 2: <HAL> How y'all feel out there?
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  Speaker 4: I feel blessed, black, and highly favored. Happy to be here.
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  Speaker 4: Another day to serve our beautiful listeners.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning. Good morning. Hump Day, middle of the week.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 5: How you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: How you feeling, Jess? I feel good.
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  Speaker 6: Yo, you remember when I asked you about getting hit
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  Speaker 6: from the back and it automatically being.
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  Speaker 7: Your fault in a car accident?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So remember, I act like it wasn't me, but it
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  Speaker 6: was me, right? So it was this African guy who
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  Speaker 6: I hit.
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  Speaker 3: In the back.
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  Speaker 4: Why are you admitting to this on the radio?
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  Speaker 6: No, because listen, State Farm... found him at fault because
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  Speaker 6: it was raining. It was like, this was like two
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  Speaker 6: weeks ago and it was raining and he was trying
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  Speaker 6: to go, you know how you assume that somebody, when
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  Speaker 6: you're approaching a yellow light, you assume that the person
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  Speaker 6: in front of you is going to take it.
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  Speaker 7: That's what he did. And the person in the car
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  Speaker 7: in front of him, um, stopped.
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  Speaker 2: So he hit the car in front of him to
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  Speaker 2: avoid the.
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  Speaker 6: Car and to avoid, And in the car in front
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  Speaker 6: of him, he scurried in front of my car like
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  Speaker 6: he swerved.
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  Speaker 8: In my lane.
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  Speaker 7: But he didn't look before he got over.
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  Speaker 2: And I hit him.
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  Speaker 7: I had to slam on brakes, but it was raining.
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  Speaker 7: I slid into him.
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  Speaker 4: I do not know why people press the gas when
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  Speaker 4: they see a yellow light.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A yellow light literally means slow down.
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  Speaker 2: Just slow down.
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  Speaker 4: Why do people press the gas to try to run through?
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  Speaker 7: And the car in front of him didn't.
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  Speaker 6: The car just slowed down. Yeah, he thought they were
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  Speaker 6: going to run through the light. And so that's what happened.
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  Speaker 6: But when he got out the car, he was like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 6: you hit me.
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  Speaker 4: You hit me.
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  Speaker 6: I said, you wasn't paying attention. You swerved over in
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  Speaker 6: my lane. And he was like, but you know, it's
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  Speaker 6: going to be your fault because it don't matter who
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  Speaker 6: causes the accident. If you hit somebody in the back,
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  Speaker 6: the person that hits you in the back is automatically
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  Speaker 6: at fault.
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  Speaker 2: Is the claim closed yet or no?
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  Speaker 7: It is closed.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'm about to get you over there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was real bad.
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  Speaker 10: Real bad.
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  Speaker 7: Congratulations. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: So it was more to the story. It was more
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  Speaker 2: to the story. Did he have a license?
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  Speaker 10: Nope. Nigerian?
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  Speaker 7: All that. I don't know, but I know it was
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  Speaker 7: some type of African.
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  Speaker 2: So he didn't have a license and he still wanted
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  Speaker 2: to go to the police?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He was about to go through the process of saying
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  Speaker 2: he got injured and back aches and trying to get sued.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just hoping you're not Nigerian because they had a
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  Speaker 4: bad week. Oh my God, what happened to them? Remember
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  Speaker 4: the guys earlier this week?
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  Speaker 10: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 4: The six guys that were scamming people in the little
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  Speaker 4: romantic scheme?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 2: And salute to all the parents out there. I know
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  Speaker 2: the kids are back to school, but we have to
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  Speaker 2: get acclimated, too.
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Because now it's the pickup, the activities.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday, I feel bad for Jackson. I left Jackson at school.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I called my wife. I'm like, where's Jackson?
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  Speaker 2: She was like, I thought you got him. I thought
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  Speaker 2: you got him. Luckily, Logan was in the area. So
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  Speaker 2: I said, Logan, go get your brother. Yeah, because there's
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  Speaker 2: just so much going on. He had soccer. I forgot
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  Speaker 2: he had soccer.
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  Speaker 10: Damn.
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  Speaker 2: It is what it is. So salute to all the parents. Nah,
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  Speaker 2: he was good because it gave him extra time playing
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  Speaker 2: on the field with his friends. So he was happy.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, Dad, come later. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: So salute to all the parents. I know we got
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  Speaker 2: to get acclimated to our kids getting back to school
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  Speaker 2: and their activities and all the ish that they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: But it's back. All right. Well, let's get the show cracking.
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  Speaker 2: Actress Danielle Brooks will be joining us this morning.
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  Speaker 10: My girl.
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  Speaker 4: My South Carolina sister will be here.
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  Speaker 1: She got a new film, If I Go, Will They
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  Speaker 1: Miss Me, that came out on September 11th.
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  Speaker 4: It's an independent film. It came out on September 11th.
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  Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: But... Oh, actually, it comes out nationwide in theaters this Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this Friday nationwide. And also Jessica Tarlow will be
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  Speaker 2: joining us. Yeah, salute to Jessica Tarlow. Jessica's been here before.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't know who Jessica is, she's like the
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  Speaker 1: only Democrat on Fox News.
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: And she'd be on The Five battling with them folks
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  Speaker 1: every day. She got a new book, I Disagree, Winning
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  Speaker 1: Arguments Without Losing Friends. That's a weird concept, though, because
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you should be able to argue with
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  Speaker 1: your friends.
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  Speaker 4: And still be friends she's.
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  Speaker 2: Going to break down what the arguments are about not
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  Speaker 2: just any argument so we'll talk about that in a
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  Speaker 2: little bit and let's get the show cracking what we
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  Speaker 2: got I like this record man.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah I just want to dance I.
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  Speaker 2: Just want to dance alright let's get to it morning
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  Speaker 2: everybody we are The Breakfast Club you can get it
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  Speaker 4: But morning, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: We are The Breakfast Club. Let's get in some front
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  Speaker 2: page news. What's up, Mimi?
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  Speaker 13: Good morning, Envy, Jess, Charlamagne. How y'all doing this morning?
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  Speaker 13: Good morning. Front page news is sponsored by Morgan & Morgan,
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  Speaker 13: America's largest injury law firm. So now to this morning's news.
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  Speaker 13: We're going to start at the Kennedy Center, which is
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  Speaker 13: now closed. President Trump, he handpicked his board, of course,
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  Speaker 13: and they have now voted to shut down the building
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  Speaker 13: for renovations, saying the center needs repairs and is running
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  Speaker 13: out of money. Trump says he's willing to help raise
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  Speaker 13: the money to keep the center afloat, but he wants recognition. Now,
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  Speaker 13: one proposal would put his name on the building. It
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  Speaker 13: would say renovated, restored, and sustained through the generosity of
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  Speaker 13: Donald J.
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  Speaker 14: Trump.
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  Speaker 13: But yesterday, a federal judge blocked that plan, ruling that
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  Speaker 13: Trump's name cannot be put back on the building without
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  Speaker 13: approval from Congress. And just hours later, the board, they
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  Speaker 13: voted to close the center immediately, the Kennedy Center immediately.
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  Speaker 13: But during that meeting, Ohio Congresswoman Joyce Beatty, who sued
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  Speaker 13: Trump to get his name off the board in the
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  Speaker 13: first place, excuse me, off the building in the first place,
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  Speaker 13: says the president and her got into a heated exchange
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  Speaker 13: over the closure. This is her on MSN Now. Let's listen.
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  Speaker 8: He went into a tantrum.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, let me just make it simple.
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  Speaker 9: It was the most unprofessional thing that I've ever witnessed
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  Speaker 9: or been a part of it. He went into name-calling
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  Speaker 9: from everything, from trying to say that I was an obstructionist,
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  Speaker 9: I was dumb. He said he was going to hold
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  Speaker 9: me responsible if something fell out of the ceiling and
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  Speaker 9: killed someone.
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  Speaker 7: And I told him, I said, you're already killing people.
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  Speaker 2: We're at war.
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  Speaker 7: We also have people who are starving. You're doing this.
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  Speaker 9: And then he wanted to talk about how great he
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  Speaker 9: was with developing and he didn't know anything about me,
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  Speaker 9: but I had never done anything. This was the biggest
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  Speaker 9: thing I had done. So I reminded him that he
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  Speaker 9: had more bankruptcies than anybody in the room. I was
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  Speaker 9: not going to let him bully me, intimidate me.
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  Speaker 8: And the facts stand for himself.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a psychiatrist. I don't like to diagnose people.
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  Speaker 1: But this is why narcissists make terrible leaders. OK, because
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  Speaker 1: they prioritize their own personal.
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  Speaker 4: Needs and glory over the well-being of the team. And
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  Speaker 4: they end up damaging the team in the long run.
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  Speaker 2: But what makes it even worse is they were saying
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  Speaker 2: that he wants to shut it down for two years.
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  Speaker 10: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Until he's out of presidency. But they were saying their
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  Speaker 2: fear is if he does shut it down. He said
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  Speaker 2: Trump might just knock it down, destroy the whole building,
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  Speaker 2: just being, you know, being an a-hole. You know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 1: That's why I said they prioritize their own personal needs.
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  Speaker 1: He wants his name on it. He wants his name
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  Speaker 1: on it. He wants the glory for it. And if
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  Speaker 1: he don't get that, he's willing to let it crumble.
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  Speaker 12: Exactly.
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  Speaker 13: Both of you are exactly right. Trump says he is willing, though,
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  Speaker 13: to take this fight all the way to the Supreme
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  Speaker 13: Court if he has to. But for now, the Kennedy
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  Speaker 13: Center is closed. And Trump says, though, those renovations will
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  Speaker 13: not begin until the courts decide whether his name can
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  Speaker 13: go on the building. So it sounds like it will
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  Speaker 13: stay closed until maybe the Supreme Court weighs in on this.
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  Speaker 4: Lord have mercy.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: And speaking of the Supreme Court, President Trump is responding
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  Speaker 13: after the Supreme Court blocked his administration's new rules for
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  Speaker 13: mail-in ballots ahead of the midterm. So Trump called it a, quote,
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  Speaker 13: another bad decision and criticized the court, including the justices
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  Speaker 13: he appointed. Attorney General Todd Land says the administration will
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  Speaker 13: follow the ruling, but they are not happy about it.
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  Speaker 13: And this legal fight isn't over. Let's listen.
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  Speaker 2: He has every right.
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  Speaker 5: And indeed, he should.
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  Speaker 15: Communicate his concerns with the Supreme Court whenever he has them.
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  Speaker 15: This isn't the first time that he's done it, and
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  Speaker 15: it won't be the last. He's also publicly very appreciative
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  Speaker 15: of the Supreme Court when there's decisions that he very
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  Speaker 15: much agrees with. President Trump's efforts to make sure that
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  Speaker 15: we have free and fair elections are not going to
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  Speaker 15: stop just in November or thereafter.
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  Speaker 5: So I expect you're going to see that work continue.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: President Trump does not want free and fair elections. So
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: when they say keep the work continuing, get ready for
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: the next trick. What is the next trick to try to,
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: you know, cause disruption during the midterms?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: And they're beyond the midterms, right? Like what what what
• 8:39
  Speaker 13: comes up next? Even after that, it says this is
• 8:41
  Speaker 13: not going to be his last rodeo at trying to
• 8:44
  Speaker 13: get some things seen basically in his favor. So the
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  Speaker 13: rules would have changed how states send and track mail-in ballots,
• 8:51
  Speaker 13: including requiring special barcodes and states to turn over information
• 8:55
  Speaker 13: about who was receiving those ballots. But election officials say
• 8:59
  Speaker 13: there wasn't enough time to make those changes before November anyway,
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  Speaker 13: and the Supreme Court agreed. And so for now, those
• 9:06
  Speaker 13: new rules are blocked, and all things will stay the
• 9:08
  Speaker 13: same for midterms coming up in November. So there you
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  Speaker 13: have it, guys. And your first hour is sponsored by
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  Speaker 13: Morgan & Morgan, Injured Know Your Worth, America's largest law firm.
• 9:21
  Speaker 13: Visit ForThePeople.com. And coming up at 7, so the FBI
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  Speaker 13: says things in your past may no longer stop you
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  Speaker 13: from becoming an agent. But one change is so unusual.
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  Speaker 13: That people can't stop talking about.
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  Speaker 10: Lord, have mercy.
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  Speaker 13: We're going to get into it in the next hour.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: This don't even seem like a real story, yo.
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  Speaker 13: It is a real story that happened on Capitol Hill
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  Speaker 13: and everything, Char.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 4: You know what had to happen in order for this
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  Speaker 4: to be on?
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk about it next hour. We're going
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: to talk about it next hour. Everybody else, phone lines
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  Speaker 2: are wide open. Get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 11: 800-585-1051.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: It's The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 13: Good morning.
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  Speaker 5: This is your.
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  Speaker 2: Time to get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 5: Whether you're mad or blessed.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: I hate the way that you walk, the way that
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  Speaker 2: you talk.
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  Speaker 16: I hate the way that you dress.
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  Speaker 2: Everything with me is blessed.
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  Speaker 5: Call up now.
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  Speaker 13: 800-585-1051.
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  Speaker 10: Not just me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm with the culture feeling.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, who's this? D. Who? D.
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  Speaker 10: Good morning, Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 4: You said deal like the pickle?
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  Speaker 7: Good morning. D. D.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, D.
• 10:19
  Speaker 10: Oh, D. What's up, D?
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: Get it off your chest, D.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Football just started, and you're already giving out scores, DJ Envy.
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  Speaker 10: And you know the women's, the FIBA World Cup. this weekend,
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  Speaker 10: and you ain't give him a congratulation or nothing? What's up?
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  Speaker 4: He don't care about women's basketball. He knew soccer.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: He said he wanted soccer, sir.
• 10:40
  Speaker 7: I noticed.
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  Speaker 2: It was actually basketball.
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  Speaker 4: World Cup in soccer.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: FIFA World Cup in soccer.
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  Speaker 10: No, World Cup women's basketball.
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  Speaker 13: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I should have come over there and slapped the Beijing off.
• 10:50
  Speaker 10: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 7: I had no idea.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea.
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: He would be dead in the eye.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch the game. I did see Caitlyn and
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: Angela Reese playing. My bad.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I thought she was talking about women's soccer.
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  Speaker 7: Angela Reese, not Angela.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: I said Angela Reese.
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  Speaker 10: No, women's basketball. We just won. We just won. And
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  Speaker 10: you ain't even shout us out or nothing.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody did a pit.
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: Nobody did a pit.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, don't deflect.
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  Speaker 17: I know this.
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  Speaker 2: And the football didn't. You didn't say nothing about it.
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: I was on the road.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't say nothing.
• 11:18
  Speaker 7: Football just started, and you already giving out scores.
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  Speaker 10: Who cares at this point?
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  Speaker 2: Give the women a chance. Well, you just did. Shout
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  Speaker 2: them out. Go ahead, Mama.
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations, USA.
• 11:31
  Speaker 10: We did it. We did that.
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  Speaker 7: Congratulations to Stewie and all my girls.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations to them.
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  Speaker 1: And the WNBA playoffs start Sunday, September 27th.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 2: You know it.
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  Speaker 18: You know it.
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  Speaker 10: The second half begins tomorrow.
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  Speaker 19: Tomorrow.
• 11:50
  Speaker 10: We going into this. Come on, DJ.
• 11:52
  Speaker 8: Come on.
• 11:52
  Speaker 10: Stay with us.
• 11:53
  Speaker 7: Come on.
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: Have a good day.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: Salute to those ladies.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: She was mad.
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  Speaker 1: She got every right to be. They did win a
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  Speaker 1: gold medal.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: They did win. Get it off your chest.
• 12:09
  Speaker 10: 800-585-1051.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: If you need to vent, hit us up now.
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 19: Wake up.
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  Speaker 7: Wake up.
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  Speaker 4: Wake your ass up.
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: This is your time to get it off your chest.
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  Speaker 2: Whether you're mad or blessed, we want to.
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  Speaker 5: Hear from you on the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 10: Hello, who's this?
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: Hello, who's this?
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  Speaker 10: This is Jerome.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: Jerome, what's up?
• 12:26
  Speaker 10: This is Jerome.
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: Good morning.
• 12:27
  Speaker 10: Good morning, DJ. Good morning, y'all. Just hilarious.
• 12:32
  Speaker 13: Good morning, bro.
• 12:33
  Speaker 10: How y'all doing this morning? Just last week, you said
• 12:36
  Speaker 10: I sound like I'm somebody's baby father. Well, I am.
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 12:40
  Speaker 10: I am.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: It's just the name.
• 12:42
  Speaker 7: It's just the name. Jerome is a very baby daddy-ish name.
• 12:45
  Speaker 10: Yeah, you can relate, huh?
• 12:47
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I can.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 12:50
  Speaker 10: So you remember the story about Dajon Love, right?
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: The fake 49er?
• 12:55
  Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yes, yes. So one of my good friends, man,
• 12:58
  Speaker 10: his name is Dajon Love. So when now that story
• 13:01
  Speaker 10: broke out, man, everybody was looking him up. He's actually
• 13:05
  Speaker 10: a retired professional football player, and he's now a sheriff
• 13:08
  Speaker 10: in our town. He speaks positivity and everything like that.
• 13:13
  Speaker 10: Black man, real good dude. And I just wanted to
• 13:15
  Speaker 10: get his name out there, man, because he actually is
• 13:17
  Speaker 10: a good dude. And I wanted his name to be
• 13:19
  Speaker 10: known for something good rather than being a gamer.
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: His name is already out there, and it has nothing
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: to do with your friends.
• 13:24
  Speaker 10: That's right.
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, Dajon Love's name is infamous forever.
• 13:27
  Speaker 10: All right?
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with your friends.
• 13:29
  Speaker 7: You got to change it.
• 13:30
  Speaker 10: The real D-Love, though, the real D-Love will live forever, man.
• 13:33
  Speaker 10: Not to say, I don't know if that's his real name, man,
• 13:36
  Speaker 10: but he took the bill, but I just wanted to
• 13:37
  Speaker 10: put his name out there, man. Express positivity to him. Yes, sir.
• 13:41
  Speaker 10: Y'all can actually follow him on Instagram. at Dejon Love
• 13:45
  Speaker 10: on Instagram.
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: I ain't following nobody named Dejon Love.
• 13:48
  Speaker 7: He's triggering some women right now.
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: It's not happening. Get it off your chest. 800-585-1051. We
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: got the latest with Lauren coming up. What's up, Lauren?
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: What are we talking about? We're going to talk about
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: Chris Brown.
• 14:01
  Speaker 7: Remember we talked about him being awarded in Texas, him
• 14:04
  Speaker 7: and Usher?
• 14:04
  Speaker 13: Yep.
• 14:05
  Speaker 7: He's telling them, y'all can take this award back. Y'all
• 14:07
  Speaker 7: tap dancing. Not Jasmine Crockett, but there's a Texas state
• 14:11
  Speaker 7: rep that it turned this whole thing upside down. So
• 14:14
  Speaker 7: we're going to talk about it and some of the
• 14:15
  Speaker 7: backlash that is happening. He's, he's had to come out
• 14:18
  Speaker 7: in defense of Jasmine Crockett too. So we'll talk about it.
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: I think they all get a little box, but we'll discuss.
• 14:23
  Speaker 10: All right. Yeah.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. Like it's the breakfast club.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Good morning.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: What you want to know.
• 14:28
  Speaker 5: The latest with Lauren LaRosa.
• 14:29
  Speaker 7: Because you particularly are bringing the energy to mainstream radio,
• 14:32
  Speaker 7: the black radio.
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: That source is trusted. Did you hear that exclusive?
• 14:35
  Speaker 7: Lauren, I'm the homegirl that knows a little bit about
• 14:37
  Speaker 7: everything and everything.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: She be having the latest on things.
• 14:41
  Speaker 8: You ask the questions that need to be answered.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: On The Breakfast Club.
• 14:44
  Speaker 7: Little brown girls look at you and go, I want
• 14:45
  Speaker 7: to be like you.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: LL Cool B, talk to me.
• 14:48
  Speaker 7: All righty, y'all. So, well, first of all, good morning.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: Good morning, LL Cool B.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: Good morning.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Top dog low.
• 14:54
  Speaker 7: All right, let's get into the latest. So we had
• 14:58
  Speaker 7: talked a bit about Chris Brown and him receiving, him
• 15:01
  Speaker 7: and Usher actually were just honored and received an award
• 15:06
  Speaker 7: on stage from Jasmine Crockett on behalf of Texas, right?
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: And this was a celebration of their big careers that
• 15:13
  Speaker 7: they've had for over decades and all the work that
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: they've put in in the industry. And it was receiving
• 15:18
  Speaker 7: some backlash. Now, the backlash specifically was going toward Jasmine
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: Crockett at first. And what people were saying was like,
• 15:26
  Speaker 7: why would Jasmine Crockett as a woman award Chris Brown
• 15:29
  Speaker 7: on stage because of Chris Brown's past things, all of
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: the older Rihanna stuff?
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Y'all don't think it's whack that people pick and choose
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: when to be mad at Chris Brown. Chris Brown has
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: been selling out these arenas for years. But now that
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: people are mad at Jasmine Crockett and want to have
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: an issue with Jasmine Crockett, they're making Chris Brown's.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Past an issue. I think it's boxed, personally. I don't
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: think these are real people that are upset.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: I really don't.
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: Well, days after Chris Brown received this honor, Texas State Rep.
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: Vinton Jones appeared on Don Lemon's morning show on Tuesday
• 16:05
  Speaker 7: and decided to apologize to black women and domestic abuse
• 16:08
  Speaker 7: survivors for awarding Chris Brown with a proclamation. Let's take
• 16:11
  Speaker 7: a listen to Texas State Rep. talking to Don Lemon.
• 16:14
  Speaker 19: First off, I want to offer an apology. And I
• 16:17
  Speaker 19: think that this is a very important conversation around domestic violence.
• 16:21
  Speaker 19: And I want to offer my apology to Black women,
• 16:24
  Speaker 19: to women, and to anyone who has experienced domestic violence
• 16:28
  Speaker 19: and really express that it was not my intention to
• 16:31
  Speaker 19: be able to stoke the traumas that goes into that,
• 16:36
  Speaker 19: as well as the background of this situation. We were
• 16:39
  Speaker 19: here at the request of the venue to come in
• 16:43
  Speaker 19: and to be able to honor the importance of this
• 16:46
  Speaker 19: evening that was going on. So both Chris Brown and Usher,
• 16:49
  Speaker 19: we were brought in to help and talk to and
• 16:52
  Speaker 19: mobilize voters who need to be engaged right now in
• 16:55
  Speaker 19: this very important election that we have going on in November.
• 17:00
  Speaker 19: And that is the work that we were engaged in.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Listen, Vincent Jones, bow to the bots. Because once again,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is a real issue. I think
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: there are forces involved. that are upset at Jasmine Crockett,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: and they used this opportunity to attack her.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I know a social media hit when I see one.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's just bots. I think a
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: lot of people might feel that way. Even when I
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: went to the concert, there was people that, when I
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: posted that I went to the concert, one of them
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: was like, why would you go? And I don't think
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: it was bots. I mean, people really feel that way.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: But what I have a problem with is, if you're
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: going to do it, you stand on it, right? You
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: know what you're doing. You know what Chris Brown has
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: been through, the ups and the downs, but you still
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: decided to do it because... you wanted to be on
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: that stage and you wanted to push an agenda. And
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: when you started getting that backlash, it was like, oh,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I apologize. I'm sorry, I didn't know. That's whack.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I think we don't realize how the bot campaigns work
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: because the envy's point, yeah, you might have a couple
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: of people who are mad, but there's people that will
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: come and stoke that fire and make it way bigger
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: than what it is, especially because of Jasmine Crockett's connection
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: Well, originally, I remember yesterday, we mentioned Chris Brown, I
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: think both Vinton Jones and Jasmine Crockett But that had
• 18:07
  Speaker 7: to change because bots upset whoever it is. Chris Brown
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: had to get on his Instagram and stand up for
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: Jasmine Crockett. He apologized to her for any backlash that
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: she was having to deal with because they decided to
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: award him. He says that he is not political and
• 18:20
  Speaker 7: he is still thankful for the recognition. But he says
• 18:24
  Speaker 7: he moves off of frequency and energy and he was
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: so grateful. So once again, thank you. But to Vinton Jones,
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: he responded in a shade room under one of the
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: shade rooms posts. of the apology, and he told Vinton Jones,
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: I don't even want the award anymore, my brother. You
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: went with Don Lemon and started tap dancing. Y'all can
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: keep that issue.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: He didn't ask for that award. He didn't ask for it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Because guess what?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: That man was fully aware of Chris Brown's past way
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: before they gave him that award.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: That's what I just said. He knew it was.
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: Chris Brown said the funny thing is that they came
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: to him with the award. It wasn't like he asked
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: about it. He said, I was minding my business. My
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: shows in Dallas were already sold out. I didn't ask
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: to be honored because I knew something like this What
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: happened immediately? He tagged Vinton Jones. He said Vinton Jones
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: immediately started tap dancing and apologizing because he didn't want
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: to lose voters and supporters. He says, I have a
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: great idea. How about y'all leave me the F alone
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: and let me focus on the fans that spent their
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: money to actually see and support me.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: This is what I mean when I say you all
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: pick and choose when to be mad at Chris Brown.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: This guy has been selling our shows all over the
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: world and it's never really an issue.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, this is more about Jasmine Crockett. than
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Chris Brown.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Somebody saw this and decided to take this opportunity to
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: attack Jasmine Crockett, not Chris Brown. Chris is actually a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: casualty of what they did, of attacking Jasmine.
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: People still be trying to play with Chris.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: All the time.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: All the time. It's a campaign.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: But no, no, no.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: I do believe that for sure. Yes, Jasmine. But people
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: still been playing with Chris Brown names. ever since 20
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: years ago.
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: Well, in other news, shifting gears a bit. So Drake
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: dropped his FOMO yesterday, The Fear of Missing Out. Remember
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: he told us it would be a not so short,
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: short film. It was a little over an hour long.
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: And after it happened, he removed it. It was like
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: you had to be... They're watching at the time that
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: he dropped it in order to experience it. And there
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: were a ton of things that went down. Sexy Red
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: made an appearance, Winnie Harlow, his goth baddie from the
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: prior stream, his mom, Kevin Durant. It wasn't a stream.
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: This video was basically a compilation of videos. So he
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: dropped the Habib T album and the Maid of Honor album,
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: and he put together visuals for those albums, and he
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: also gave fans a bit of new music. There was
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: a feature with him and Don Toliver. There was a
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: song in there with him and Yeet. Just Fans thought
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: it was going to be an album. They didn't get
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: an album, but they did get some new music.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: You know, our resident Drake Groupie is in here, Lauren.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: OVO Eli.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: He said that he was going to dress like he
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: had a certain outfit he was going to wear.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Well, he got a tattoo.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: He got a tattoo, and it's on his back, and
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: it goes F-O-M, and then when he bends over, it's
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: the other O.
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: You're a clown. You are a clown, but no. What's up, Eli?
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: How you feeling?
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I'm feeling great. Shout out Drake.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, he could.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: Say because I got some questions because there was one
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: part where Drake says pray for Gaza and people.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, good, good.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: There you go, Lauren. Yeah, now Eli. Bet you going
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: to wish you wasn't in there.
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: Let's take a listen to it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: What do you mean? What do you mean?
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because some people think it's like the, you know,
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: the pray for Gaza, that whole conversation, because there was
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: a petition that Drake signed. And then other people are like, no,
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: it's an ode to, who did you say, Shark?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Vibe Cartel.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: That's what Complex said. And now that I hear it
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: in context, I think he was bigging up Vibe Cartel.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: He has his, what is it, Patois voice on? So
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: his Caribbean voice on. And they say Complex said Vibe
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Cartel frequently refers to his home region of Jamaica, Portmore,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: as Gaza City, and to his fans as Gaza Nation.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: It couldn't be a flip.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: Like, could it be both? Yeah, I mean, it could
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: be a double on top. Yeah, definitely. Well, he also
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: talked about this being self-funded in this era because of
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: all the lawsuit stuff that's happening with UMG. Let's take
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: a listen to that.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Why is family still at the highest value for you?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, the family is us, right?
• 22:24
  Speaker 17: You know, of course, I love my blood relatives, but
• 22:26
  Speaker 17: when I say the family, it's the people that I
• 22:28
  Speaker 17: started this with, a group of individuals who, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 17: are still right now, my basement looks like 50 in
• 22:34
  Speaker 17: Fort York did.
• 22:34
  Speaker 16: You know, it's pizza and McDonald's and guys grinding, you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 16: hours and hours and hours, guys that have really been
• 22:40
  Speaker 16: dedicated to this for years. I came to some people
• 22:43
  Speaker 16: for this project. When I say self-funded surrealism, obviously people
• 22:47
  Speaker 16: know what I'm going through right now.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm an artist myself. That's standing ten toes.
• 22:51
  Speaker 16: I'm face up with the people that I've done a
• 22:53
  Speaker 16: lot of work with and for. This just reminds me
• 22:56
  Speaker 16: of when we started, when my mom was doing my
• 22:58
  Speaker 16: signature on the mixtapes with me because we had to
• 23:02
  Speaker 16: ship out orders of room for improvement and we couldn't
• 23:05
  Speaker 16: get all the signatures, so we were splitting signatures.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: It reminds me of a time when it really mattered.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Eli wants to be one of those guys grinding in
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the basement for hours.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Don't you, Eli?
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Speaking of when they started, he also pays homage to
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: his own legacy because he's showing, like, old music videos
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and stuff, like, the scenery from, like, Star From the Bottom.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: He looked like he was having fun, too. Like, I
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: just watched him dance in the G-Department video. That dance video? Yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: he looked like he was having a good time. He
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: looked like he was back to having fun.
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: Mm-hmm.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: If he wanted to be.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: In that kitchen sliding across.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: That island with Drake he did look like he was
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: having a good time.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Though I do that in my kitchen with my kids
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: but nah he look like he's having a good time
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: and that's the Drake that I enjoy to listen to
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: when Drake is having a good time that means music
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: is about to be amazing so hopefully he drops some
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: dope music.
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: Shout out to Drake he just gave us.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Three albums Well, he said.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:50
  Speaker 7: No, but fans think that more music... I mean, he
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: previewed new music here. Fans have been saying that more
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: stuff is coming. And he said that he's going on
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: tour next year, so... He feeling good.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is.
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: Man, he said he going to call Nicki and check
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: on her, so we might get a little, you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: started from where they started from type of situation. I
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: don't know, but they're missing out happening. Eli, 10 out
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: of 10, what do you think?
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: 10 out of 10, always and forever.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: OVO, you already know. OVO, tell them!
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: Yo, he got it. Charlamagne, you got to watch when
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: he go get his makeover. His goth baddie takes him
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: into a store and she does a whole makeover.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I'm cool. I'll be playing Wolverine.
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: Oh, yeah, Wolverine was lit too.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be playing Wolverine.
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: Well, that was the latest for the hour, guys.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 4: So you disqualified the animal?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Why would you even get into bestiality?
• 26:15
  Speaker 21: We are not into bestiality, but a lot of these individuals.
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  Speaker 14: I know you're not, but you changed- But I'm trying
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: to explain it, hang on. You changed the qualifications and
• 26:25
  Speaker 14: mentioned bestiality. If Joe participated in bestiality, not as the animal,
• 26:33
  Speaker 14: but as the human, don't you.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: Think he ought to be disqualified?
• 26:37
  Speaker 21: If he voluntarily did it, sure, but if he was
• 26:39
  Speaker 21: trafficked into it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, how do you involuntarily do it?
• 26:42
  Speaker 21: In a lot of these cases, when human traffickers, who
• 26:45
  Speaker 21: are some of the worst individuals on planet Earth, they
• 26:48
  Speaker 21: don't just traffic you for prostitution, they traffic you for
• 26:51
  Speaker 21: degrading acts of all kind, and they force you into
• 26:53
  Speaker 21: that type of conduct.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: This isn't a good faith conversation.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: No, no, it makes a lot of sense, because I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: will say that headline is very misleading, because if you
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: see the headline... You think Kash Patel is letting people
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: who have sex with animals into the FBI. But when
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you look past the headline, it actually makes sense because
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: his logic is if somebody was trafficked and forced to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: participate in something horrific like bestiality, treating that victim exactly
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the same as the perpetrator creates another injustice.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: But if you were forced for bestiality, you wouldn't get arrested.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't be charged. That's what he's saying. He's saying
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't be on your record. But I thought that
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: was to be an FBI agent.
• 27:27
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? But that's what he's debating with
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the Senate guy. That's why I say this conversation is misleading.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: He's telling the Senate guy you're not listening. He's talking
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: about people who have been trafficked and forced to fornicate
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: with a dog or some type of animal.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: That's why he says we wouldn't hire a perpetrator. He
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: says that in the conversation.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: But you would never get charged for it. That's the purpose.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: If you were forced into doing anything, you were the victim.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't get charged for it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: It was not about a charge. It could be on
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: your background. It could be in your background. That could
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: come up in your background.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because I'm like, yo, how did we get here?
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. How did the bestiality thing even
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: come up then?
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: Because that could be in your background.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: You might say, hey, I got forced into prostitution one
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: time and they made me sleep with a dog.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know. That could come up in a background check.
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: And how are you able to prove that, though?
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: How are you able to prove whether or not this
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: is a freaky fetish of yours versus you being trafficked?
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: How can you prove something like that?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I think he's being specific because he said basically if
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you've been trafficked and forced to fornicate with a dog
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: or some type of animal, that shouldn't disqualify you from
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: working in the FBI. Now, could he have been more
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: clear in the definition or more clear in the policy?
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but words matter, right? So somebody who does have
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: sex with an animal can still say, well, hey, it
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: says here that I could have sex with an animal
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and still be an agent.
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: Right, right.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: That's why he has to be very clear on what
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the definition of the policy is. But you can't do
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that when you're not having a good faith conversation with
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: people and they're just trying to jam you up on
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: words because it's election season.
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: We'll see.
• 28:58
  Speaker 13: And that was the thing, though, because that was a
• 28:59
  Speaker 13: Republican senator, John Kennedy, who was having that conversation with him.
• 29:02
  Speaker 13: And I think he was trying to get him to
• 29:04
  Speaker 13: where you are, Charlotte, trying to get him to explain
• 29:07
  Speaker 13: exactly what he meant by that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Because they were trying to prove his incompetence.
• 29:10
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 29:11
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 20: Yes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: They were trying to make him look, well, I'm not
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: going to say make him look, but because he might be,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: but they would try to really make him look incompetent.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: They actually said that to him. Cory Booker said that
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: to him. You're incompetent.
• 29:23
  Speaker 13: So, and just to go over the standards. So if you,
• 29:26
  Speaker 13: so the new standards actually say, if you stole from
• 29:29
  Speaker 13: an employer, you may still be considered if it happened
• 29:31
  Speaker 13: more than three years ago. If you paid for sex,
• 29:34
  Speaker 13: you may still be considered if it happened more than
• 29:36
  Speaker 13: 10 years ago and fewer than three times. And when
• 29:39
  Speaker 13: it comes, to bestiality or animal cruelty, an applicant may
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: still be considered if it happened before they turned 18.
• 29:46
  Speaker 13: So those are the new standard guidelines if you do
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: want to become an fbi agent one.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Day they got to clear that definition up though so
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: you could pay for a prostitute before you was.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: 18 and still be an fbi agent if you if
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: you paid for prostitution right if you paid for prostitution
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: that's what they said if it if it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 13: Happened more than 10 years ago and it was fewer
• 30:03
  Speaker 13: than three times then yes mv you could still be
• 30:05
  Speaker 13: an fbi agent if you paid for sex yep yep
• 30:09
  Speaker 13: those are the those are the new guidelines guys so
• 30:12
  Speaker 13: A lot of people have a lot to say about
• 30:14
  Speaker 13: the FBI and those new standards. So we'll get into
• 30:17
  Speaker 13: more of that. But I think that is it for
• 30:21
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  Speaker 5: All right.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Mimi.
• 30:49
  Speaker 13: Thank you.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Now, when we come back, actress Danielle Brooks will be
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: joining us. She has a new film. If I go,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: will they miss me? It's out this Friday. We're going
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: to talk to her next.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Don't move.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 30:59
  Speaker 10: Good morning.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy. Just hilarious. Charlamagne Tha Guy.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. Law and the Rose is
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: here as well.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, indeed.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: We got a special guest in the building.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: My South Carolina brethren, Danielle Brooks.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Welcome.
• 31:12
  Speaker 12: Sister.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Brethren, sisters, family, all the same thing.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: You can call him sister.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Okay. You can call him sister.
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: He act like a southern old auntie. I always tell
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: him that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: I feel so good.
• 31:23
  Speaker 8: I'm glad to be here. It's been a long time.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I know you just said that. It's been what, 13 years?
• 31:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, something like that.
• 31:29
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: It's been a long time. I was in Orange is
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: the New Black and I was a baby. I was
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: probably like 23 when I came in here.
• 31:34
  Speaker 12: Wow.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: You were 23 on Orange is the New Black?
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: I was 22 when I started.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: Wow. Yeah, I was a baby.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: And you've done so much since that, what was that,
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: 13 years ago?
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, 13 years ago.
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: You have had such an impactful, elevated career.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Lord.
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: Starting so young. I didn't know.
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: I just graduated Juilliard at 21. Had my little struggle year,
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: and then at 22, popped into Orange is the New Black.
• 31:59
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and then have been working ever since, thank God.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: What did Juilliard prepare you for?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: And also, what could it never prepare you for?
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: You know what? It's funny because I sat with Juilliard
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: alum yesterday and the current students, all black students, and
• 32:16
  Speaker 8: we were talking about this. And the one thing that Juilliard...
• 32:18
  Speaker 8: Can't give you is the talent, is the heart, is
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: the soul portion. They can give you the technical. They
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: can give you a toolbox for that. But other than that,
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: you know, and it's funny when I did Orange is New,
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: like I remember being interviewed once and they were like,
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: what did Juilliard give you? And I said nothing at
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: the time, which is not true because they did give
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: me the skills, but they couldn't teach me that heart stuff.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: They couldn't teach me the grit and all of that.
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: So you always say take what you need and leave
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: the rest from any conversation. you know conservatory that you
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: go to any place anybody that gives you advice take
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: what you need and leave the rest.
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: A lot of people think that when you get you
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: know in these big hollywood careers and these roles that
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: it's keeping with you like you talk about their heart
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: that's like something that's like inputting you you were raised
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: a certain way but people try to i think sometimes
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: separate the two talk a bit about like keeping your
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: root amidst all of that because you're in juilliard you're
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: you know doing all these things it's completely opposite of
• 33:14
  Speaker 7: you know, what some of us like come from it
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: and know.
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah. I mean, look, I definitely am not a
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: Nepo baby. My baby will be a Nepo baby. But no,
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: I came from, you know, where Charlamagne is from. I'm
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: from South Carolina, small town, grew up in the church,
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: you know, like low to mid class family. Definitely only
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: at the time, all I saw was the radio people or,
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: or the news people on TV that made me say, well,
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: maybe I can do that. You know what I'm saying?
• 33:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: But to get to this point, to get to this
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: moment in my career, the only thing that really keeps
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: me grounded is one God, faith. Period. Number one source.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: And then my family, my friends, like my foundation, they
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: are my foundation. Like they keep me grounded. They keep me.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: They tell me the truth, you know, even if I
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: don't want to hear it. So I make sure to
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: keep positive people around me like that is important.
• 34:08
  Speaker 15: Negative.
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: Don't don't come over to the Danielle camp at all.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: When did you know that this was going to be
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: your path, right? When did you know that it wasn't
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: going to be something else? And how difficult was it
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to continue on when you got the nose, when there
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: might not have been enough money for tuition and books
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: and board and all that?
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: I think God always told me this was for me.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: He always had said, you just got to trust me.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: I got you. It might not look how you think
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: it will look, but I got you. And I had
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: to lean on that. But when it first hit me,
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: I think it was my first yes, getting into Juilliard.
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: Somebody said, yes, you have talent and we're willing to
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: pour into you for four years in New York. I'm like, okay, okay.
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: But it wasn't until that. And then I think once
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: I learned I was here to stay, which I knew
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: it inside. But you have all these doubts, right? I
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: knew it like fully when I got Oscar nominated. I
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: think that I know it took a long time to
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: be that confident. But I think that was the moment
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: I was like, no, I'm having longevity in this industry.
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: I'm not going anywhere. But before that, it was like
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: that climb, like so hungry and so hungry. wanting it
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: so bad and like, can I hold on to it?
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: But there was something once that Oscar came around, the
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: Oscar nomination came around, there was something that settled in me.
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: It was like, girl.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You got this.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: Like, you are that bad. You got it, so.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: What about when you were 15, right?
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: Okay, what you want to know?
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: And your father took you to see The Color Purple.
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: The Color Purple.
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it changed my life.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: And you ended up playing 15.
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: Charlemagne, let me tell you something. Let me tell you,
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: let me tell y'all.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Let me tell y'all how good.
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: God is, okay?
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: So yes, Dad took me to see Color Purple at 15.
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: That was the first Broadway show I saw. Ten years later,
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: I end up starring in it after auditioning for so
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: many Broadway shows. Not getting them. First one I get
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: is the Color Purple. Takes me to get my first Grammy.
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: Takes me to get my first Tony nomination. Next thing
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: you know, ten years later, they ask me to do
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: the movie.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I auditioned for the movie.
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: And get this Oscar nomination. The thing that blows my
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: mind about all of it is yesterday I met a
• 36:07
  Speaker 8: young woman named Angel and her name was Angel from
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: South Carolina. First Broadway show that she saw was The
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: Piano Lesson with me and Sam Jackson and J.D.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Washington.
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: First Broadway show. Then she says, from there, she looked
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: in the playbill and saw that I was from South
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: Carolina and that I went to, she just did some
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: research and found out I went to this governor's school
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: in high school, right? So she ends up applying, using
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: the monologue from the piano lesson, gets into this high school.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: It's a conservatory. You live there for two years on campus.
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: It's really fancy. She gets into that, then decides to
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: audition for Juilliard and gets in.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: I met her yesterday.
• 36:46
  Speaker 10: Wow.
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: That's what I'm saying is some God s * * *.
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: Going on.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: Hold on. So she went to the governor's school?
• 36:53
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Was she the only black? Because you were the only
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: black girl. I was the only black girl.
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: I don't know. I was too busy crying.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I ain't asking that question.
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: I was too busy in my feels.
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: But how insane.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: That's God.
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: It's God. So we just got to continue to do
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: the work and walk in what he's telling us to do.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: And that's why I just love what we do. A
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: lot of times we talk about, like, with the art,
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: you know, we're not doing rock and science. We're not
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: saving lives as doctors. But we are, though. Like, we
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: actually are changing people's lives and the trajectory of what
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: they see for themselves. I look at you, Charlamagne, I'm like,
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: God damn. in the like lord forgive me if you
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: use your name in vain but you know what i'm
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: saying as far how far you have come in your
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: career it's insane you know what i'm saying so we
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: just got to keep and it helps people to it
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: reminds them like just again how far they can go
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: you know what i'm.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Saying when you're that young right and you're the only
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: in a room like the only black woman yeah the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: only black girl in that drama class of government school
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: do you start developing confidence or do you quietly develop
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: like a habit of proving that you deserve to be.
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: I think it's a little bit of both but I
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: think what messed me up in the beginning was like
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: when I was at governor school at the high school
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: in South Carolina I was the only black girl yes
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: so when it came to auditioning for colleges I was
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: like really like it can only be one so what's
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: this other black girl over here trying to audition like
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: no it can only be one and then it was
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: me and one other sister in the Juilliard class of
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: 18 because they only allow 18 it was only two
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: of us and that's when I was like oh like
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: there's room We're going to make room. Like, even though
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: they got me playing soldier to the left and playing
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: witch number three, like I, there's room for all of us.
• 38:35
  Speaker 8: And I cheerleaded the hell out of my sister and
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: she cheerleaded the hell out of me. And now she's
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: a Tony winner and I'm an EGOT nominee, but we
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: supported each other through it. You know what I'm saying? So,
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: It did at first mess me up a little bit,
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: but I quickly got out of that mindset and was like, nah,
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: it's room.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: For us all.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Now, your new movie, If I Go, Will They Miss Me?
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: You shot that in 22 days? Yes, we did.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Break that down.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: That's no time at all.
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: No time at all. And we shot it in the hood.
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: And it looks amazing. It is so good.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: I cannot wait.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: That's the first thing she said. She said, it looks
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: good for a shot in 22 days.
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: It is so good.
• 39:09
  Speaker 7: The coloring, the way, like, it's very much, I saw
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: you say it gives a Moon Knight feel, and it does.
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: It's like the color and the shadow and everything. That's
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: a lot in 22 days.
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: Girl, and Walter Thompson Hernandez is that dude. He is
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: the next Barry Jenkins or plug in amazing director. He's
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: that guy. He directed it. He wrote it. He edited himself.
• 39:32
  Speaker 8: You know, he started out as a short film at
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: Sundance and now it's moved over into a feature with J.L.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: Fonz from P-Valley. And he's also in Lanterns. But the
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: story is a love letter to Watts and a love
• 39:44
  Speaker 8: letter to fathers and sons. And it hits on all
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: of the things. And it's so beautiful, y'all. Like, if
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: you love cinema, this movie is for you. If you
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: just need, I mean, if you got a child, you
• 39:58
  Speaker 8: are a child, this movie is for you.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I love the conversation about fathers and sons, right?
• 40:03
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I have four girls, two boys. And watching it, I
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: love my daughters. I hug my daughters. I kiss my daughters.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily do the same for my son, right?
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: And it is not because of I don't love him,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: but it's like you have a different relationship, right?
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: Maybe that's what this is about.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I need to do that more. Like,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I need to hug and kiss my son and let
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: him know I love him in a way that we
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: usually don't do, you know?
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: The young boy, he sees his father as a god.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: As a hero.
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: That's all he wants. You were talking about the comic
• 40:33
  Speaker 7: books and stuff. He romanticizes his dad as this mythical character.
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: It's so beautiful. And the god that he is, but
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: he doesn't see himself like that. And the thing is,
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: the father is struggling with allowing the boy to continue
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: to stay in this innocent place, right? Like this childlike
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: wonder and use his imagination. A lot of us do
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: that because we want to protect our children and show
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: them what the real world is like. And a lot
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: of times adults say, too, well, I grew up all right.
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: My parents didn't hug me and my parents didn't do this,
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: but I came out all right.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Did you, though?
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: Like, do you have an issue.
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: With, like, emotional intelligence or, you know, are you able
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: to let somebody hug you? Like, you know, there's these
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: things that we say we are good, but are we really?
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: And this movie asks you to look at yourself and reflect.
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: It's the little engine that could is how I describe
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: this movie. So, like, to be able to talk about
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: it on this platform is a huge deal because I
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: think it's It can get there to the masses, but
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: we got to do the work. You know what I'm saying?
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: You got involved in this film not because of the paycheck,
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: but because of the passion.
• 41:40
  Speaker 20: Oh, yeah.
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: I didn't make that thing.
• 41:41
  Speaker 10: Right? Right.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: Respectfully what I thought was interesting though right like you
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: probably get scripts and things coming at you like crazy
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: and you this one you're like not only do I
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: want to be a part of it but you're out
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: here like driving the conversation about it you get a
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: chance to really dive into the art is it you
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: wanting to refresh and reset yourself because Hollywood can be
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: totally like scripts go go go and this is like
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: colorful and it's passion like or is it you really
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: being like we need to Center more of this.
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: We need to center more of this. You know, I
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: think when you're in a position like I am, I'm
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: so grateful to have movies like Minecraft or have TV
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: shows like Peacemaker. You know, those are the shows that
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: I love, get to the masses and pay the bills.
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: But then there's another group of movies and TV shows
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: that really move the culture and make us better people, hopefully.
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: And so that's why I said yes. That's why I'm
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: putting my own money behind this as an EP creator.
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: to promote this movie and, you know, to support what
• 42:37
  Speaker 8: this director is putting out because it's necessary work, yo.
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: I'm telling you, I don't like watching movies that I'm
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: in a ton of times. Like, I really don't. Like,
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: I'll watch it once and I'm done. I have watched
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: this movie probably four or five times. Every time I
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: see something different. Every time I'm... Like, I am crying.
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: And a good cry. Like, you know, like a healing cry. Like,
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: I'm like, and a cry of like, I've come so
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: far as a person. You know what I'm saying? Like,
• 43:03
  Speaker 8: I'm a mom. I'm a wife, yo. I go through
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: a lot of stuff. You know, like, I'm not saying
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: like I've had a lot of trauma and all this stuff.
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: But like, I'm a real person. I go through shit.
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying? In this movie, it just
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: reminded me like, yeah. I'm making the right steps as
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: a mom. I'm making the right steps as a wife.
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: You know what I mean? So I think everybody should
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: go see it and do a little bit of this
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: crying thing.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: There was a scene where you apologized to your son.
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: First of all, your son in the movie, he is
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: the most stoic but impactful child actor I've ever watched, right?
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: But you apologized to him in that scene. And I
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: saw you say that was improv.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: That was improv.
• 43:44
  Speaker 7: And you're emotional here with us right now. What are
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: you learning more about yourself as a parent as you watch?
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I hope that's not a used tissue.
• 43:52
  Speaker 10: No, man.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: No, because it's all crumpled up.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: It's all crumpled up.
• 43:56
  Speaker 7: You know how your auntie would, like, pull something out
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: of her purse and judge?
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: No, because I don't do that.
• 44:01
  Speaker 10: Just like that.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: And it ain't.
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: She just been holding it.
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: It ain't did nothing to me.
• 44:04
  Speaker 22: I can't wait.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: They were taking too long with the Kleenex.
• 44:06
  Speaker 8: I can't wait to hear what y'all think about this film.
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: I think it's amazing. I think it paints another side of...
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: We talk about escapism as like a bad thing sometimes
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: because you don't deal with who you are because you're
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: trying to get away from it. I think this movie
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: shows you what the positive... How escaping something can positively
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: impact you if you have the right support around you.
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: Like your son in the movie, like him drawing and
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: having this whole magical world. With the right support, he becomes... genius.
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah i i think we have a responsibility um as
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: parents aunties uncles whatever it is to really pour into
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: our children um and i think we we we got
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: work to do you know what i'm saying and and
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: because at the end of the day we're all big
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: children trying to act like adults like you know like
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: we all actually don't know what the heck we doing
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: you know what i'm saying So I think this movie
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: is a reminder to go search for the help that
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: you need. Y'all are all big advocates for therapy and
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: things like that. I think you have to do the work,
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: especially if you want to get rid of generational curses
• 45:16
  Speaker 8: and make them generational blessings is what I think.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask, did it change you as
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: a mom?
• 45:22
  Speaker 13: Oh, 100%. How?
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: I am so protective of my child. I always have been.
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: But the thing is, there's this thing where you're like,
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: I'm going to be protective of my child, but you
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: might start teaching them it's okay to accept certain behaviors.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: You don't want them to say, okay, X person is
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: talking to me disrespectful. So you tell your child, just
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: ignore your uncle. Just ignore your daddy. Just ignore your mama. No,
• 45:51
  Speaker 8: you can't accept that. And a child who's five, six,
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: seven years old, they don't have the language, nor can they,
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: to a grown adult. So who has to step in?
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: Another grown adult. And so that's what I'm saying. It's
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: like I'm proud of myself for saying, like, my family,
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: we're going to do this right. You know what I'm saying?
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: I'm glad that the people that are in my life
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: did the work so that we could heal as a family.
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: And now we're better for it. We're so strong. We're tight.
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: She's thriving. You know, I'm thriving. Everybody's doing so well.
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: My husband's amazing partner. So, yeah, that's what I mean.
• 46:27
  Speaker 8: It's like we got to do the work because sometimes
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: these a lot of times these kids cannot advocate for themselves.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: You give yourself grace because it's easy to beat up
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: on yourself.
• 46:35
  Speaker 20: Right.
• 46:36
  Speaker 10: But.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: We always say there is no instruction manual.
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: There's none.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: When a baby's born, they don't give you a pamphlet
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: and be like, here you go.
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: Like, And everybody has to go through stuff. We all
• 46:44
  Speaker 8: go like that's life. You know what I'm saying? We go.
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: He talks about flying right in the film. And he's
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: always referencing the planes and stuff. But we all are
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: going to have to go through turbulence in this life
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: to get to the destination. And I can't stop my
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: baby from going through turbulence. You know, but what I
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: can do is say we're not going to have it
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: in his house. And that's what I would encourage other
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: people to do. And I think that's the importance of
• 47:06
  Speaker 8: the work that we do together. You know, I don't
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: like to share. I don't want to overshare any part
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: of my life because that is mine. Like, I don't
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: owe anybody anything. But what I will say there, we
• 47:16
  Speaker 8: all do have testimonies and things that can help other
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: people be better human beings.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Was there ever a moment where Hollywood made you question
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: something about yourself?
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure. Like, am I enough? You know, I
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: think the fashion industry more than anything has, you know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: like you can be an EGOT nominee now. and still
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: not be invited to the Met Gala. You know what
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: I'm saying? I've never been invited to the Met Gala.
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: That's crazy because you are such a big-name talent in fashion. Like,
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: we see the fashion. Like, you give it.
• 47:44
  Speaker 8: Thank you. But, yeah, I mean, I was in the
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: biggest press tour with Color Purple, you know, thriving in that,
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: getting nominated for everything, and was not invited. Whole Oscar run.
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: Whole Oscar run. And so I think sometimes that makes
• 47:57
  Speaker 8: me feel like, dang, like.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: But you're right, though. You got a Grammy. You got nominated.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: You've been in... huge movies like Minecraft.
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: Huge Minecraft.
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: Big shows like Peacemaker, like Orange is the New Black
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: is a hit.
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: And in my opinion, if a fashion house is looking
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: for a girl who's like, representation for people like you've
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: always been there you've always been fashionable yeah would you
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: even like so when the when the invite comes is
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: this something that you would even like you want to
• 48:22
  Speaker 7: go but like it's kind of like y'all been stunting
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: on me this whole time i don't operate that way
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: i know people that do but i don't because that's
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: their problem i'm gonna go have me a good time.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: Like, y'all keep, like, you know what I'm saying?
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: Like, I ain't got time for that. Like, okay. So
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: I'm going to stop myself from enjoying myself and maybe
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: even getting another deal or having a relationship with somebody
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: because of somebody else. No, I'm going to that party.
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: And I at least want to experience it one time.
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: You know, I would love to. experience it one time.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Do you ever get tired of having to be representation?
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you just want to be Danielle?
• 48:57
  Speaker 8: I think that's me being representation. I am Danielle. Whoever
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: is supposed to connect with me will connect with me.
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: And to be honest, I don't think my representation is
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: only stuck at being a plus-size dark-skinned girl. I think
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: my representation expands that. I think Orange is the New
• 49:13
  Speaker 8: Black taught me that. It's almost that thing they say
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: about the more specific you are in a story, the
• 49:20
  Speaker 8: more it resonates with more people. And I think that's
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: the thing that I'm aiming for. I want you to
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: relate to me through parenthood. You know what I'm saying?
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: Me and you through fashion. Me and you through South Carolina.
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: I think that's what representation is. It encompasses, I think
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: that's the way you say the word, y'all know what
• 49:37
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to say, is so much larger than just
• 49:41
  Speaker 8: the thing.
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: That multi-connection, is that why you did, you launched your
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: podcast Intermission? Because I was surprised to see you do
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: a podcast that's been so free. Because I feel like
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: with the type of career that you have, it would
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: normally be kind of like PR protected a bit because
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: of all the political things at play when you are
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: like on those Oscar runs and stuff like that.
• 50:00
  Speaker 8: That's a great question. I think for me, the reason
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: I started the intermission, there's so many interviews, including things
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: that I've seen with y'all. I've watched you with Miss Pat.
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: I've watched you with so many. Birdman. Y'all been with everybody, right?
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: But I watched these interviews. I learned so much, you know,
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: about myself and by people sharing more about who they are.
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: Mm-hmm.
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: And so to be honest, I've been doing this since 2011.
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: Right when I came out of school at a Juilliard,
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: I had no money. I was working at a restaurant.
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: I scraped up $ 357 to get a camera, get a
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: camera because nobody was hiring me as an actress. So
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: I go to use the Juilliard studios and get in
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: there and got no good lighting, got no good sound,
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: but we're going to make it work. And I was
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: interviewing Corey Hawkins, Devon Joy Randolph. Tiana Paris, I was
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: interviewing people. Get Orange is the New Black. And at
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: the time, my team tells me the quality of your
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: podcast or YouTube channel at the time is not matching
• 50:51
  Speaker 8: where you're going. So I took it down. And so
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: cut to doing Color Purple three, four years later or three,
• 50:59
  Speaker 8: four years ago. I was like, I want to do
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: this podcast thing again. So I'm excited. I shoot four episodes,
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: have great guests. The quality is matching now. And it
• 51:09
  Speaker 8: was this battle of like, do I do what the
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: team wants me to do, who I respect, or do
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: I do what I want to do? And I ended
• 51:16
  Speaker 8: up going with the team and them saying, hey, if
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: you get Oscar nominated, let's hold off. So I held off.
• 51:22
  Speaker 8: And so here we are. I said, no more holding off.
• 51:25
  Speaker 8: I'm going to do this thing that's in my heart.
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: And so that's how, you know, the intermission got launched.
• 51:30
  Speaker 7: Did you navigate the convo as well? The convo you
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: had with Kandi, you know, she's going through everything, right?
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: The way that you navigated through her divorce conversation, it
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: didn't feel like it was like media, headline, whatever. She
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: was so comfortable with you because you have a prior relationship,
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: but you knew the questions to ask, but also the
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: follow-up questions were great. And I was like, oh, she really,
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: because sometimes with celebrities in these podcast platforms, Y'all have
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: producers and it's like question here, question there. I do
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: all of it myself. Yeah, like y'all just talked about
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: hanging out in Amsterdam for a while. And I was like, oh, okay.
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: You navigate the conversation as well.
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: I do all the work on myself when it comes
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: to asking the questions. I also have been interviewed so
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: many times, so I know what annoys the hell out
• 52:11
  Speaker 8: of me. And I know what works. And it's really
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: when people like you are listening.
• 52:15
  Speaker 7: That's the main thing.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: People have to listen.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: A lot of times people... It's just a question. They
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: don't listen.
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: They don't listen or take the time. You know, just
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: a minute ago, you asked me a very deep question,
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: but you were waiting for that answer. If you would
• 52:26
  Speaker 8: have said something, I would have went on and not
• 52:28
  Speaker 8: have given you anything. But you took that time to
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: hear me and say, I'm open. What you got, Danielle?
• 52:33
  Speaker 8: And so I said, I'll give a little. And that's
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: what I've been learning, too, along the way. Like I
• 52:37
  Speaker 8: just went to another podcast and they told me it's
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: about giving of yourself a little bit to sharing a
• 52:42
  Speaker 8: little bit about yourself, which has been hard when you
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: talk about the PR stuff.
• 52:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 52:46
  Speaker 8: Because I'm like, oh God, I don't want to share
• 52:48
  Speaker 8: too much.
• 52:48
  Speaker 7: Not that you've been hiding, but you do craft, you've
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: always crafted your brand where like we knew what we
• 52:53
  Speaker 7: needed to know and we still loved you.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:55
  Speaker 7: But like you're really open on the podcast.
• 52:57
  Speaker 12: I am.
• 52:57
  Speaker 7: You talk about a lot.
• 52:58
  Speaker 8: I've been talking about some things, so y'all better go
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: watch it before I stop talking about some things.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: But you created a safe space for yourself.
• 53:05
  Speaker 8: I did.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: And it's been, it's been a little hard. It's been
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: a little hard to say, okay, I'm going to, I'm
• 53:11
  Speaker 8: going to open up about some stuff.
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 53:13
  Speaker 8: But I think it's going to be great. And I
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: hope that my next season can be in New York.
• 53:18
  Speaker 8: It will be in New York because that way I
• 53:20
  Speaker 8: can get some guests that I want, truly, truly want.
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: Because I think it's been a little challenging being in
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: the A.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: What do you prefer more, doing movies or Broadway?
• 53:31
  Speaker 8: I like both for different reasons. I love Broadway because
• 53:33
  Speaker 8: it's live. You never know what the heck is going
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: to happen. I think it's just more visceral of a response.
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: Like you feel the.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Audience, you know.
• 53:42
  Speaker 8: But that TV is something special about that TV and
• 53:45
  Speaker 8: film too. One, it does pay all my bills.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 53:48
  Speaker 8: Because Broadway ain't doing it. And I've always said I
• 53:51
  Speaker 8: think Broadway actors should make what TV actors make because
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: the work is insane.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: How different is it? Because you hear all these, you know,
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: like you'll hear celebrities come to Broadway for a month
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: or so.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I always wondered, I was like, is it the same
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: amount of money?
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: Hell no.
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: When they come to Broadway, it's for the love.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Hell no.
• 54:07
  Speaker 8: It is for the love, honey. No, you are not. No, no,
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: not at all. Like, I don't know how you, no, no, no.
• 54:16
  Speaker 8: You can't pay no rent with that, child.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Even when you're starring in a hit?
• 54:19
  Speaker 8: No.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: No.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I know that.
• 54:22
  Speaker 15: You can't, no.
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: It's disrespectful how much Broadway actors.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: The tickets ain't cheap, though.
• 54:27
  Speaker 8: You think the actors get in that? They're not. Eight
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: shows a week. There's only seven days in a week. No, sir.
• 54:34
  Speaker 8: The actors in Broadway are not getting paid nearly as much.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: As they should be. It's disrespectful.
• 54:38
  Speaker 10: Wow. And.
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a lot of work and the conditions aren't
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: always the best. You know, like you'll be in a
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: space and it's mad like dust, you know, and you
• 54:48
  Speaker 8: got to sing and it's just old buildings. You know
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: what I'm saying? It's just not ideal, but you make
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: it work. And when I was on Broadway, like I
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: felt like an athlete, you know, like I couldn't go anywhere.
• 54:57
  Speaker 8: I was doing Orange is the New Black and Color
• 54:59
  Speaker 8: Purple at the same time. So it was a lot
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: on the body, like wearing scarves every night, couldn't celebrate,
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: couldn't go out. Like you have to shut down and
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: just be yourself. in the work or you're gonna like
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: your body's gonna tank on you yeah.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: So we appreciate you for joining us thank you so
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: much it's the breakfast club good morning let's get to
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: the latest with lauren Alrighty, y'all.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: So, Macklemore and Ed Sheeran.
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: So, Ed Sheeran has a tour that is currently happening, um,
• 55:51
  Speaker 7: called the loop tour. And Macklemore was one of the
• 55:54
  Speaker 7: artists on the tour. And I say was, uh, because
• 55:57
  Speaker 7: over the weekend, there was a show that went down
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: in Jersey at MetLife stadium where Macklemore used his set.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Uh, to echo feedback.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: Like a song or something.
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: Like other voices.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Like it's like a song.
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: I don't have a song. I don't have anything playing.
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: I don't know why y'all getting that.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: How about now? Be quiet for a second.
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: Is it better now?
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: It is actually.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 56:22
  Speaker 7: And I say, OK, so Macklemore was a part of
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: Ed Sheeran's tour, the loop tour. And I say was
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: because he was removed from the tour after a performance
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: in Jersey where he used his set to make a
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: political statement in support of Palestine, Palestinians and push back
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: against Israel's conduct in Gaza. Let's take a listen to
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: Macklemore making that political statement.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Free Palestine.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: I want those words to be loud and clear so
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: the people from Gaza all the way to the occupied
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: West Bank know that we have not forgotten them. And
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: this next song was inspired by the bravery of Columbia
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: University students.
• 57:01
  Speaker 12: Students, to all of my Jewish brothers and sisters. Criticism
• 57:06
  Speaker 12: of Israel, criticism of apartheid, being against genocide.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: In no way is a criticism of you.
• 57:13
  Speaker 12: My message is for peace, love, for all human beings
• 57:17
  Speaker 12: to be treated with dignity and equality.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: So I say free Palestine.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: I say free Lebanon.
• 57:23
  Speaker 8: I say free Cuba.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: I say free Congo, free Sudan, free all people.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: In America living in fear.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Over this terrorist organization, ICE.
• 57:34
  Speaker 12: None of us will be free until we are all free.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: That's about as balanced a statement as you can get
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: on that issue. How did that cause so much backlash?
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: So that's a great point, Charlamagne, because... People are trying
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: to make it seem like the statement wasn't balanced. So
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: let me explain. So after he made this statement, his
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: song Heinz Hall dropped. Now, this song he's been doing
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: since 2024 is a protest record. And there was images
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: tied to Gaza and pro-Palestinian demonstrations that were flashing behind him. Now,
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: you have a bunch of different venues that you go
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: to on these tours. So when Macklemore was dropped, there
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: was a statement from the touring company that is doing
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: the U.S. leg of Ed Sheeran's tour that said that
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: they had to drop him because some of the venues
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: would not allow the tour to take place if he
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: was on the lineup. And that would have resulted in
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: a full cancellation. They didn't want to do that to
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: the fans. Now, when Macklemore came online to talk about
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: the fact that he was removed from the tour, he
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: specifically says that Robert Kraft was a part of, he
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: alleges that Robert Kraft was a part of the snowball
• 58:38
  Speaker 7: effect that made all of these other venues drop out
• 58:41
  Speaker 7: He says that he had a conversation with Ed Sheeran
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: and Ed Sheeran told him that Robert Kraft, who has
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: the Kraft Group and they own Gillette Stadium, which they
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: plan to be on later, called him and said, look,
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: because of how it's not him trying to make the statement,
• 58:54
  Speaker 7: because of how it was made and the fact that
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: it only voiced one side of it, he can't perform
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: at our venues. And then Macklemore alleges that Robert Kraft
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: went and got a bunch of the other venue owners
• 59:05
  Speaker 7: together who rallied and said the same thing. Now, Robert
• 59:08
  Speaker 7: Kraft is pushing back and he saying that they did
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: tell them that they were not able that he was
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: not going to be able to perform but he says
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: based on the material it was based on the material
• 59:17
  Speaker 7: that was shared on stage during Ed Sheeran's show in
• 59:20
  Speaker 7: Jersey and a broader history of anti-semitic rhetoric and imagery
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: that they believe has been deeply offensive and hurtful to
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: the Jewish community They say the decision is not about
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: diminishing the suffering of innocent Palestinians or denying anyone the
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: right to advocate for their behalf on their behalf. They
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: also mentioned the pain and the loss is real, but
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: the advocacy should not come at the expense of the
• 59:40
  Speaker 7: Jewish community. So they feel like that he used the
• 59:43
  Speaker 7: platform unfairly. They say too many lives have been lost.
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: He does agree with Macklemore because Macklemore is like, that's
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: the real conversation. The lives that have been lost. That's
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: where this should be at. If I got to not
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: go on the rest of this tour in order for
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: that to be the conversation, let's do that. But Robert
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: Kraft says that he feels like Macklemore only shared selective
• 59:59
  Speaker 7: information and ignored the action of Hamas. And ignoring the
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 7: actions of Hamas is not honest and only advances more
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: divisiveness and hate. So now you have all these celebrities
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: that are coming out because they are pissed at Ed Sheeran.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 7: Because while all this was happening, Ed Sheeran didn't say anything.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: They're not pissed at Robert Kraft?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Shouldn't they be more pissed at Robert Kraft?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: So it depends on who you're talking to, right? Because
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 7: in the beginning of it, you have people that are
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: mentioning Ed Sheeran because Ed Sheeran, it's his tour. And
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: they wanted him to come out and be like, no,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: he should be able to still be on my tour.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 7: And also, this is how I feel about what Macklemore,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 7: in the sense that he, not about Macklemore, but with
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 7: the sense that he was trying to take Pink, reposted,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: you know, something that was like pushing back against anti-Semitism.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: You have AOC on the hill. We got audio of
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 7: AOC saying she's not going to listen to Ed Sheeran anymore.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 7: Let's take a listen.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 13: Hey, if Ed Sheeran comes on the radio, are you
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 13: changing the channel? I am.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: Why is that?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 23: It's not just what has happened with the act and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 23: not just in removing Macklemore from the lineup, but when
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 23: you see what Robert Kraft did to line up all
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 23: of the stadiums to censor speech, this is about how
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 23: just a handful of stadium owners and the elite can prevent...
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 23: an entire massive issue, in this case the genocide in Gaza,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 23: but it doesn't stop there. That you can now just
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 23: get a handful of stadium owners to ensure that an
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 23: entire person's career can be jeopardized if they speak out
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 23: about any issue.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: The supporting acts have dropped out, but Ed Sheeran, I think,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 7: will still continue with the tour.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: What do you think his responsibility is in all of this?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 23: I think that the right thing to do is to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 23: speak out about it. At the very least, to speak
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 23: out about this abuse of power. Because if they're saying
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 23: that to him, then they can say it to anybody.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: I thought I read that the promoters dropped Macklemore, though.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: So, yeah, that's what I'm saying. So but but people
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: were upset because they're like, yes, it's the promoters. But
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: you're Ed Sheeran. You should be able to get in
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: this and figure it out. I know Tamika Mallory posted
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 7: a statement. She said Ed Sheeran statement was it was
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: booty because Ed Sheeran came out and said, look, I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: it's not that like it was my fault. I talked
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: to the promoters. I mean, I talked to the venues.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 7: I got on the phone with Robert Crabb. They didn't
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 7: want us to move forward. I tried to find a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: neutral point. It did not work. Him and Macklemore spoke.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: They agree. Basically, they disagreed. But he says that he's
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: not he doesn't not support what Macklemore was on stage saying.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: And people are asking him, why is he being quiet
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 7: about that? But his whole thing is he didn't want
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 7: to disappoint his fans. So he thought it was best
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 7: to just move forward, even though all these people were
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 7: dropping out.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: But all the other acts, all the other acts dropped off, too, right?
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Because it was other opening acts as well, right?
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 7: You have Phineas, who was the brother of Billie Eilish.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 7: He dropped out. You have Lucas Graham, Mark. Aaron Rowe,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 7: who was the opening act, that dropped out as well, too.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 7: And this is all in support of Macklemore. But I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: think the reason why it's falling back on Ed Sheeran
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 7: is because people are like, you should have more of
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: a say-so in this.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: It's his tour. People feel like he has more power.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: He has more pull. He should be able to be like,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: you know what? If they're not going to have this,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to perform at Gillette Stadium. We'll just
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: go to the next city. People feel like that's his stance.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: That's what his stance should be.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 7: And to be fair, Tameka Mallory did call out Robert
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: Kraft as well, too. Macklemore says that when him and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: Ed Sheeran spoke... He thinks this might put a strain
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: on their relationship, but he's open for conversations. Robert Kraft
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 7: said he's willing to get on the phone with Macklemore.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 7: So I don't know where you go from here, but
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: it has caused a huge fallout. I mean, even Pink,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: she was one of the first people to speak out
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 7: in support of Macklemore. Her Instagram comments are in shambles
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 7: with people arguing about whose fault this was, whose it wasn't,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 7: if it's anti-Semitic, if it's not.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, this issue is full of landmines, right?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: But I feel like it's OK to say you're not
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: OK with more than 20,000 Palestinian kids being dead. It's
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: OK to say, you know, October 7th was a travesty
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: that shouldn't have happened.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: It's OK to, you know, condemn Hamas.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: And it's OK to call out Bibi Netanyahu and the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Israeli government. Like this situation is complex and it's a
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: lot of things going on at once. I don't think
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: and I definitely don't think it's an indictment of all
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Jewish people when you're calling out Bibi Netanyahu.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: In the israeli government.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: But he said it clearly when he said it on
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: stage but the sad part about it is freedom of
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: speech is not necessarily freedom right it's not necessarily free
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: so not free of consequences they're free of consequences but
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: what he said wasn't anything that people haven't been saying
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: for a long time or people haven't been saying especially
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: this year when it gets to the point he's also
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: been saying it for years when you're pulling from the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: stadium and you're not allowing him to perform because of
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: something that he said it now you start now the
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: lines get very very blurred when it comes to that
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: And maybe Ed Sheeran should have said, you know what,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: you know what, let's not do Gillette Stadium. Let's do
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: the next city. I'm a ride with them. I don't
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: feel like people would feel that way.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 7: No, there were 10 shows left. Eight of them, Macklemore
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: was on.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 8: But yeah.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: So, and as Sharon, he did eventually, I told you guys,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: he made that statement eventually. I know we got to
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 7: wrap up, but he was getting some heat for just
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 7: not even taking a political stance in this too. And
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 7: he says he doesn't, he has his own personal views
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 7: and he doesn't voice them publicly because there's a lot
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 7: of like young people and children of all backgrounds who
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 7: are his fans and they don't expect a political forum.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 7: So he respects Macklemore's strength, but that's not how he
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 7: chooses to go about things. So we'll see and continue
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: to follow what happens here.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 8: I'm glad.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: I would like to see if Robert Kraft said he
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: would reach out to Macklemore, right?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he said that he's going to have a conversation.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: Conversations like that got to be public.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: If there's so much public fallout from people having different
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: stances and different opinions, I feel like conversations like that
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: should be public.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: I feel like the conversation should be had before you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: block somebody from coming into the stadium.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: I agree with that as well.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: Don't get on the phone after you block me. Let's
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: have a conversation first and then decide where we're going
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: to go from there.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 7: Well, that's the latest for the hour, guys.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Lauren.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 7: You're welcome.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: All right. Charlemagne, who are you giving your donkey to?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Man, for after the hour, we're basically essentially talking about
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the same thing. This is why language matters, why communication
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: skills matter.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: I need Cash Patel to come to the front of
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: the congregation. We'd like to have a word with him, please.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that next. It's The Breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: It's time for donkey of the day.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: There's a bunch of donkeys out here.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: I'd make donkey of the day.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Call donkey of the day.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 7: It really caught me off guard.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: We live a life where we bite our tongue based
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: off who we may offend. We never would say anything.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: You are a donkey.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: That is why Charlemagne is here.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: Some donkey.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: The breakfast.
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  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: We'll be giving donkey of the day to today.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Donkey of the day for Wednesday, September 16th goes to
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: FBI director cash Patel. Now this is a very teachable
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: moment and I need everybody listening to me this morning
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: to listen with the intent to understand and not just reply.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Exercise some patience because this story is exactly why you
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: can't just read headlines.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the headline sounds so damn ridiculous and, that your
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: supercomputer and your skull, your supercomputer and your skull stops Putin. OK,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure when you saw that the FBI changed
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: its hiring policy so that bestiality is no longer necessarily
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: an automatic disqualifier.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 8: You said, excuse me.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: OK, some of y'all are just hearing this for the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: first time. So let's go to ABC News for the report, please.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 24: A fiery hearing on Capitol Hill today featuring name calling,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 24: personal attacks and yes, talk. of prostitution, for starters, in
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 24: front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. FBI Director Kash Patel
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 24: defending a recent policy change in hiring to not automatically
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 24: disqualify some job applicants at the bureau who participated in, yes,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 24: previous prostitution.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: Or even bestiality.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 24: A topic sparking plenty of curious questioning across party lines.
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  Speaker 21: We did not want to punish victims of bestiality, victims
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  Speaker 21: who were trafficked. We did not want to make it
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  Speaker 21: an automatic disqualification for the FBI to consider you.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: Tell me what it said before.
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  Speaker 21: It automatically disqualified any individual who participated on either side
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  Speaker 21: of it. Obviously, we are never going to hire the criminal.
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  Speaker 4: This side of what? The bestiality?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: So you disqualified the animal?
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 21: Well, I don't think we have great canines, but we're
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 21: not going to disqualify.
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  Speaker 7: I understand.
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  Speaker 14: I'm trying to understand why you did this.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Look, there are certain things that I thought automatically eliminated
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: you from certain jobs. And if you're applying to the
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: FBI and somewhere in your background, somebody has to ask
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: you about your sexual history, history with animals.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: I feel like we can stop the interview.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: OK, but here's where this story gets more complicated and why,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, this wasn't a good faith Senate hearing. OK,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Senator John Kennedy questioned Cash Patel about this. And Patel's
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: explanation was that the FBI changed the policy because there
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: could be people who were victims of human trafficking who
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: were forced to participate in sexual acts involving animals. Cash's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: position was that someone shouldn't automatically lose the opportunity to
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: work for the FBI because of something horrific that was
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: done to them or something they were forced to do.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: Guess what?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: I agree with that. Okay.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: If somebody was trafficked, abused and forced into doing something,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: that person is a victim and you cannot punish somebody
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: for the rest of their life for something another human
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: being forced him to do. So Cash Patel isn't getting
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: donkey of the day because he wants to protect victims.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: He's getting the biggest he haul because why in the
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: hell didn't you just write the policy that way?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: That's why they're calling you incompetent cash. You're the FBI director.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Words matter.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Words matter with the FBI period. Definitions matter. Distinctions matter.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Being an FBI agent is all about understanding distinctions. You
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: got to know the difference between a suspect and a witness,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: a victim and a perpetrator, a legal or illegal.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: Okay. Evidence or allegation. You have to be clear, okay?
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: If what you mean is a victim of trafficking or
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: abuse will not be automatically disqualified for conduct they were
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: forced to participate in, you gotta write that out, okay?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Why are we creating language broad enough that the director
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: of the FBI has to sit before the United States
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Senate explaining the circumstances under which somebody was doing the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: no pants dance with a puppy, okay?
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: Somebody that was doing the.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: No pants dance with a puppy might not automatically prevent
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: them From joining the FBI.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: Why is that a conversation?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: OK, that's why people think America is an unserious place.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: Victims deserve context.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: OK, if somebody was forced to do something that's different
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: from somebody choosing to do it. OK, I don't know
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: why that's difficult to understand. Context will always matter. There
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: are some behaviors. Society has every right to treat. as
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: extremely serious when somebody voluntarily chooses to engage in them.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: And that's why this policy needed to be written with
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: surgical precision, okay? Because when people hear bestiality is no
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: longer an automatic disqualifier for the FBI, they're not thinking
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: about a trafficking victim. They're thinking Somebody was clapping the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: cheeks of a cheetah. OK, that's what people hear. And
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: that's not the public's fault, Cash Patel, because leadership isn't
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: just having the right intention. If I got to spend
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: 10 minutes, 10 minutes explaining why something that sounds completely
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: insane actually makes sense under one extremely specific.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: Circumstance, that's your fault.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 18: OK.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: You had an exception designed to protect victims, but instead
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: of making the exception unmistakably about victims, you created a
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: national conversation about whether people who voluntarily do the hanky
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: panky with pandas should be eligible to work for the FBI.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: How did we get here?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: OK, not automatically disqualified does not mean automatically qualified.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: Those are two completely different things.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: And if you're keeping score, the FBI can still investigate
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: someone's background and evaluate their conduct and determine if that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: person shouldn't be anywhere near a federal badge. So why
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: turn this into something it isn't? And that's why they
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: was grilling you in that Senate hearing cash. OK, they
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: could have set you up to explain the policy.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: All right. But that's not what they wanted to do.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: They wanted to prove you weren't qualified for the position
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: and you gave them all the fuel they needed. OK,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: the FBI had what Patel says was a legitimate concern.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's a legitimate concern about protecting victims from
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: being punished for acts they were forced to participate in.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: And somehow that legitimate concern got translated into a policy
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: debate where United States senators are asking the FBI director
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: about bestiality. Sometimes your intentions aren't the problem. Your execution is. OK,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: you can mean well and communicate terribly. Please give FBI
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: director Kash Patel the sweet sounds of the Hamilton's.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 11: Oh, now you are the donkey of the day. You
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 11: are the donkey of the day.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Yee-haw.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that donkey today.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, ma'am.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 22: I'm a little nervous.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 10: Why?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: Happy Book Pub Day.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 20: Because it's Book Pub Day. And that's a nerve wracking thing.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 20: But this is the best way I could ever imagine
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 20: kicking it off. So thank you guys for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Our book is called I Disagree, Winning Arguments Without Losing Friends.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Have we reached a point in American politics where some
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: disagreements should cost you friendships, though?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 20: I have heard from a lot of people who absolutely
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 20: think so. And the point of the book is not
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 20: to force people into relationships or conversations that they don't
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 20: want to have, but to speak to the people that
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 20: I know from the outreach that I get and just
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 20: conversations that you have with friends and family where they
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 20: are bemoaning the fact that we can't talk to each other.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 20: And it's not just about politics. It's about it feels
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 20: like every facet of life. You know, I have a
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 20: four and a half and a two and a half
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 20: year old. And I feel like the mom chat is
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 20: as heated as talking about immigration. You know, do you
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 20: send an Oreo to school and the kids lunchbox?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 22: What are you doing with screen time?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 20: Marriage is hard, you know, and we're all pretty siloed
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 20: and pretty angry.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 22: And I have kids.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 20: This unique job, certainly in the media space, being the
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 20: only liberal talking to four conservatives and doing that for
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 20: several years. I feel like I've developed a toolkit. And
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 20: so I wanted to share it with people.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: I read somewhere that you you said before you, I guess,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: get into a debate on Fox, you already find something.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: You can concede on.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 22: Not necessarily concede. I call it the soft start.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 20: And I really, it's kind of could be summed up
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 20: as just being a normal human being, right? That you,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 20: if you're going to meet somebody or talk to them,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 20: that you try to think about stuff you have in common.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 20: Like if you sit down for a date, right, you're
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 20: going to try to figure that out. And that's what
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 20: I do as well. Either some kind of olive branch
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 20: where it's like, I actually looked into the way that
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 20: you see this. If we're talking about legislation, it's a
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 20: pretty boring example, but I try to engage people. with
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 20: all of the components to make sure that I could
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 20: see how someone could get to yes, before I spend
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 20: all my time saying, this is why it should be
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 20: a no, like with the big, beautiful bill, which, you know, we.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 22: Talked about for months and months and months.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 20: And I feel like it's a great table setting for
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 20: any conversation. And it can be something funny or light.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 20: I mean, you guys know in the way that you
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 20: interact with each other and bunch of comedians also, not
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 20: saying I'm as funny as a comedian, but you know,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 20: poking at someone and just also indicating to the audience,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 20: because there are millions of people that are taking you
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 20: in remotely, say like, no, we're actually friends. And it
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 20: might get a bit heated, but we're okay. And you
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 20: should be okay also in your own life, if you're
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 20: talking about this stuff.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: Do you like the conversations are having more? Reason I
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: ask is, I remember back in the day, my parents
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: didn't have conversations about politics. It was certain things we
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: didn't have in the house, right? We didn't talk about politics.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: We didn't talk about religion when it came to other people.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: We just talked about normal stuff, whether it was sports,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: whether it was going on in the community. But we
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: stayed away from it. But now it seems like we're
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: talking about it more, which is taking that into the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: schools where now our kids are talking about it more.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: And now our kids' friend groups are based on, well,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: you voted for him, your parents voted for him, then
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: we're not talking to you. And it's making it awkward
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: because now you can't really have an opinion because your companion,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: your opinion can... affect your social life.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 20: Yeah, I think it's really rough out there for kids.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 20: Mine are too young to have these kinds of opinions.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Four and a half, they understand. If they go to school,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: they definitely understand. I have a four and a half.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: They know Trump.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 20: Yes, she does know that, and she knows, like, Mama's
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 20: on the TV, but she doesn't know yet what Mama
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 20: is saying, I think.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 22: And that she wears fake eyelashes.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 20: That's basically where we are at this point. But you
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 20: do see how much Parents are putting their politics on
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 20: their kids, which feels unfair to a large degree. And,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 20: you know, I I take politics very seriously. I understand
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 20: your opening question. You say, like, you know, should we
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 20: be losing friends? A lot of people I know think
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 20: that supporting Trump or Trumpism is about morality and that
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 20: if you go along with this, you are saying you
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 20: don't care if people's health care gets taken away. You
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 20: don't care about Head Start. You don't care about USAID.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 20: You don't care about what happens to immigrants or, frankly,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 20: Americans that are trying to protect immigrants.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 4: But that still feels like policy, though. So I think
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: those are fair.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 22: No, I understand that.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 20: I'm saying that the reason that my solution to it
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 20: or what I'm putting in the book doesn't necessarily translate
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 20: for everybody or maybe what's happening in these households is
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 20: that I understand– when folks say this is a moral
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 20: imperative that you oppose these things. But there's a lot
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 20: still to distill about the conservative community. And you guys
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 20: obviously talked about this a ton around the 2024 election
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 20: and weren't particularly surprised by the outcome when so many
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 20: traditional Democratic voters moved over and voted for Trump and
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 20: took a flyer on the guy who they thought would
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 20: be better for the economy.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 22: And one of the main theses.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 20: Of the book is And that I talk to people
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 20: a lot is that when liberals talk about politics, there's
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 20: a lot of hyperbole to it.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 22: Some of it warranted, some of it not.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 20: But conservatives don't see it as the defining feature of
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 20: their lives in the same way. I mean, not a
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 20: guy who has like a Trump tattoo on his face,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 20: but the average conservative doesn't, you know, live and breathe
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 20: it all day, every day. And I think that's preventing
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 20: a lot of conversations and probably infiltrating to these kids, right?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 20: Her saying, you know, my mom told me that your
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 20: family's this way. I don't want to hang out with
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 20: you or, you know, we see the world differently.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: Where is the line between accepting?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: Somebody who thinks differently and tolerating something that just violates
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: your values?
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 20: I think it's personal for everybody. And I know that
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 20: I'm in a different position because this is my job
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 20: versus I'm doing this for fun.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 22: Like, I'm compensated.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 20: You know, it's a different calculation. But I think as
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 20: we move towards a world where Donald Trump will not
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 20: be as central of a figure in our politics, I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 20: think he will still play a huge role. And that
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 20: will be obviously important to him as he rules from
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 20: Mar-a-Lago or wherever he's going to go in political retirement.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: You think he's just going to walk away?
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 20: No, but I think he will end up going. I mean,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 20: I don't think it's going to be like a January
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 20: 6th redux, but I think it is going to be
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 20: ugly and it is going to be fraught. And I
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 20: think that they are trying to figure out every way
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 20: that they can, certainly within legal bounds and maybe in
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 20: illegal bounds, find a way to continue to claw to
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 20: hold on to power. I take Steve Bannon very seriously.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 10: I agree.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 20: And I think that we have to be prepared for it.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 20: I think Democrats are, there are a lot of books
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 20: now about it. And people like Mark Elias, the election attorney,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 20: obviously is super focused on this. But I don't think
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 20: that we are prepared for the storm anymore. that is
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 20: coming for the midterms and what they're going to do
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 20: to make sure that people can't get to the polls
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 20: or whatever they're going to say about fraud. And then
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 20: 2028 will probably be even worse.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: Don't you think there's a difference between Trump supporters and
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: Trump voters?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 20: You mean the base versus people who show up on
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 20: election day and say, I think he's going to put
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 20: more money in my pocket?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, like those people who actually bought into the stuff
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: that he was on the campaign trail talking about. And
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: they just went out there and said, you know what,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go vote for Trump, but I think
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: he is going to fix the economy. As opposed to
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: being the guy you talk about with the tattoo on
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: his face, who's just like very cold.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 13: Right.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 20: There is still the 20% right of the base. And
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 20: I've moved that down from the 30% that it used
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 20: to be. Remember from the, he could shoot someone on
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 20: fifth Avenue and no one would care. Apparently they do
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 20: care when they have less money in their pockets or
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 20: their farms are going bankrupt or he said, no new wars.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 20: And we're in, you know, a seven, eight month war
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 20: now in Iran. So things are a bit different there,
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 20: but yes, I think there's absolutely a difference. And, That
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 20: speaks to the growing rise of independent voters in the country.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 20: It's now the biggest block of people who identify.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 22: With neither party.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 20: And they probably lean left or lean right based on
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 20: certain issues, like if they care about, you know, women's
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 20: reproductive rights, for instance, they might lean left on that
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 20: or if gun culture matters to them in a certain way.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 20: But people are just fed up with the system generally.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 20: And I think the inability... for us to talk to
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 20: each other and not acquiesce. I want to make that
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 20: clear because I always, excuse me, I have a podcast
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 20: called Raging Moderates and people will say, oh, moderates, like
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 20: that's so mushy, no one wants that. And we have
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 20: the raging in it, which is part of it because
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 20: everyone's vibe right now is anger and they want to
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 20: burn the system down. And I think in these conversations,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 20: Some people might think, oh, you know, you're telling me
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 20: to go talk to these people. That means that I
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 20: have to kind of like lay down and take it
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 20: and acquiesce to their views, which I don't think is
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 20: true at all. You have to just be modeling a
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 20: kind of discourse that people can connect to to get
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 20: those voters, not a Trump supporter, but the voters who claim,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 20: you know, the ones watching you and watching flagrant and
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 20: are saying like, oh, I like 50 percent.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 22: Of what this guy says. And that might be enough
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 22: for me.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: Most people are one issue voters, I think.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 22: Yeah, depending on the cycle. I mean, well, it's the economy, stupid.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: Every time.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Always. Yeah.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 7: Well, what about you on the other side, right? Like,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 7: you're not running for office. You are having these conversations.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 7: You talk about like grace under fire in your book.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: And I know like Trump has like said different things
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  Speaker 7: about you specifically, like not even about your takes, but
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: about you as a person and what you do.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 7: What's the line where you're like, I understand we got
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 7: to tell across the table, but like, I genuinely just
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 7: don't like this person because the attacks get so personal.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 7: You just don't want to give the platform. Like there's
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 7: no real way to a conversation with a certain person.
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  Speaker 16: Yeah.
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  Speaker 20: I mean, I think for everybody, it's a very personal decision.
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  Speaker 20: I mean, I can't control what President Trump wants to
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  Speaker 20: say about me or anybody on TV, you know, and
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 20: he he watches too much television and he should be
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 20: busier fundamentally is my feeling about it. But I think
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 20: that there are ways, if you are going to have
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 20: that conversation, if you decide that it's worthwhile to you,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 20: that you can better understand what they're saying about you
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 20: and why they're saying it. So in the chapter where
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 20: I talk about these Trump attacks, it was important to
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 20: me to work on figuring out what it is that
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 20: he was actually saying and how seriously I would take it.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 20: And I ended up with this tip or maxim from
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 20: the book that A criticism on style is actually a
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 20: win on substance so that when people can't deal with
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 20: the content of what you're saying, they'll start picking on
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 20: something surface. And they'll say, oh, it's her voice or
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 20: it's her, he said, jittery presentation. And those are things
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 20: that I'm self-conscious about. And he's very good at reading
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 20: the room that way, which I think is why it
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 20: His nicknames, at least earlier on, I think they've gotten
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 20: a little dull, frankly, but they always hit because they
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 20: were things that people were already concerned about or others
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 20: would recognize. But when you are diving into these contentious conversations,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 20: I think being able to really parse what the criticisms
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 20: mean and how important they are, depending who they're coming
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 20: from and how they're expressed to you is really crucial.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw you say when somebody interrupts you on
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: the five, that means you take that as evidence that
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: you're winning.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: You know, you've done a bunch of these.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: What other little tales are there that let you know
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: somebody realizes like, oh, you got them?
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 20: Well, definitely that an interruption is verification that you're on
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 20: the right path and to keep going, but to also
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 20: counter that interruption with some sort of connective tissue moment.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 22: So a little.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 20: Jab back or something with a bit of humor so
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 20: that people can also see. And you can even feel
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 20: we're actually in this together. I already said to, you know,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 20: think in averages and not in anecdotes. I think, you know,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 20: I have a background in political polling and research. So
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 20: doing creating database stories is what I do. But I
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 20: think that's especially important for women when you go into
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 20: these hostile venues and But even in your personal life,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 20: at your job, wherever it is, to kind of have
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 20: that armor. The soft start, which we talked about, looking
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 20: for what could connect you before you bring up what
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 20: could tear you apart or how you feel differently about it.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 20: Spending time in uncomfortable places.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 12: Mm-hmm.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 20: I think is really important and we don't do enough
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 20: of it. And it can be an easy thing right
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 20: in your community or, you know, start eating at a
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 20: different kind of place or, you know, who you're talking to,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 20: if you're going to a sporting event or you're at
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 20: a social event. I have a lot in the book
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 20: about my time in college and my time in grad
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 20: school and how often I pushed myself to be uncomfortable
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 20: so that I could grow from that. You know, I'm,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 20: obviously present as quite an extrovert and I'm on TV
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 20: for a living, but my insides are very introverted. And yeah,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 20: I actually hear that with a lot of people who
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 20: do comedy.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 22: That is this great release for you.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 10: Right. Right.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: Because naturally very introverted. I seem very extroverted because I
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 6: know how to be that way.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 7: We have to connect with people, have to talk to people,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 7: have to show a personality. But really, stay the f * * *
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 7: away from me. Like, that's how I really am. But
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 7: not like bad, but it's just like introvert.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 22: And need that inner peace and that space.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 8: Yes.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: To re-energize and stuff.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: Well, go get the book, I Disagree, Winning Arguments Without
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Losing Friends.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: It's available everywhere you buy books now?
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, today.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 22: Thank you guys so much.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm never going to look like that again.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 12: Why?
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 22: Like, that's a really good picture.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, you got.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 22: You look fine now.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 4: You look the same right now.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 7: I was about to say, your hair's a little shorter.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: Your hair's a little shorter, but you're giving to that.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 22: All right, great. So I look like that every day.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 22: And go buy the book.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 12: Thanks, guys.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: It's Jessica Tarlow. This is The Breakfast Club.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 12: Good morning.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: Let's get to the latest with Lauren.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 7: Lauren becoming a street fit.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: She gets them from somebody that knows somebody. She gets
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: the details.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 7: I'm a homegirl that knows a little bit about everything.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: She be having the latest on you.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 5: The latest with Lauren La Rosa.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you have facts, sometimes you have details, sometimes you have.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: A little bit of everything. Brought to you by Top
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: Dog Law.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: On The Breakfast Club.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 7: All right, y'all. So today, Nia Long will be receiving
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 7: her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 10: Congratulations, girl.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 7: Yes. I mean, it's Nia Long. Like, what else do
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 7: we have to say here? Like, she is the girl.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 7: But she'll be receiving that. That'll happen today in L.A.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 7: Her ceremony will go down. She's going to be getting
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 7: the star in the motion pictures category with producer Graham
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 7: King and Snoop Dogg among the people who are scheduled
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 7: to speak on her behalf. So, yeah, congratulations to her.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: Congratulations to Nia Long.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, salute to Nia Long, man.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll be back with that. Like, when the ceremony
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 7: happens and people speak or whatever, we'll, you know, come
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: back tomorrow and be able to, like, hear from her
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 7: and the people that spoke in her honor as well, too,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 7: as we, you know, continue to celebrate her.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Salute to Nia Long. Salute to my good sister, Marvette Brittle, too.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: She's headed out there as well. You know, her and
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: Nia Long are extremely good friends.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 7: I was why i asked you this um off air
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 7: charlamagne because yesterday i was thinking probably how she felt
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 7: because you know she's had such a long career um
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 7: how she felt the day before getting that star because
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 7: it's such a big moment and i was like are
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 7: you gonna cry when you get yours how you gonna
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 7: feel the.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 4: Day before i have no idea but i'll know this
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 4: time next year.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 7: So fired up.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 13: Yes, for the tears.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 7: You better cry. Come on now. Not yes for the tears.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 7: Just make sure you invite us.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know how I'm going to feel, but next year,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 4: if you're going to cry, this time.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 7: Next year, you're going to cry.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: Yes, because black men do cry.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 13: Yes, we do.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: And it's okay.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Black men do cry.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 17: Yes.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 7: Well, speaking of black men, Pusha T and Pharrell, they
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 7: launched Grinding. It is a coffee business that they're going
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 7: to have going down. And they are launching it with
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 7: two VIP events here in New York City. So they're
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 7: going to bring together people from music, fashion, entertainment, All
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 7: of the things. But I thought that grinding as a
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 7: coffee company was like so genius for them. And I
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 7: didn't know that Pusha T was like so into coffees.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: I watched his interview he did with Complex where they
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 7: took him around to different coffee shops to try the coffee.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 7: And he was like rating them and he was comparing
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 7: it to the coffee that they're like going to be
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 7: putting out for people to purchase. And he talks about
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 7: some of the flavors and stuff like that. And he's really, really, like,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 7: into it.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a coffee guy. My wife is a
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: coffee guy. I don't do coffee at all. I do
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: green tea. That's about it. Yeah, no, I don't do coffee. Oh,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: the daughter's a coffee person, too. She get that from
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: her mama. Like, yeah, I'm not a coffee person.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 7: I love coffee. Coffee, it serves as a detox for me.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 7: It always makes me go.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: It feels like everything does that. When you eat up here,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: you always running out.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 7: Anyway, Lauren, it's not anything I should let you talk about.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 4: We have a call for you.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 7: You can't hold nothing at all. No, but I did
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 7: say that, though, when I saw the Complex interview. I
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 7: was like, I know they had to poop after because
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 7: they were trying like four to five different coffees. That's
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 7: a lot of coffee.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 13: All right.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 7: Now, as we head on to the next story, yesterday,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 7: I got the... privilege to sit down with kirk franklin
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 7: he did a private listening event for uh his new
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 7: album i am what i am that will be out
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: this fall um so i can't give you all the
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 7: features and things like that but what i can give
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 7: you guys is an exclusive listen um to the conversation some.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: Parts of it um jesus god.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 7: Wait when you said that i got so quiet because
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 7: i'm like did i tell him you about to say
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 7: something i'm not supposed to say nothing i can't wait
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 7: for it though but yes, yeah, you can't. Well, first
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 7: of all, the album and four was going to drop, uh,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 7: in the fall, right? It's a two disc project. It's
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 7: his first time doing a two disc project. Uh, but
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 7: he has a single, another single. Cause there's one out
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 7: right now. Uh, thank you. Uh, with care, uh, with
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 7: Clark that already has a feature on it. Um, that
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 7: the new feature will drop next Friday with a very
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 7: well-known voice that you guys are gonna be excited about,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 7: but let's get into, um, the conversation. So on the
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 7: two disc project, uh, He starts off this one very,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 7: very vulnerable. I can't wait to see you guys here.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: He's talking about a lot of the personal things we've
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 7: seen him experience and things we didn't know about, like
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 7: some of the burdens of being such a big figure
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 7: in culture and gospel music, but also some of the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 7: family things we've witnessed with him and his son, how
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 7: his career has impacted his marriage a bit. And on
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 7: the second disc, I realized that he starts it so upbeat.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 7: And I was asking him about the duality between that
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 7: and just kind of how it's been carrying all of that.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 7: And I asked him about how it is like being
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 7: kind to himself and we'll get into that audio but
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 7: right now we have the audio from a audience member
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 7: who after listening to this she said.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: We ain't got no audio that's why that's why I
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: thought she was talking she was trying to kill.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 7: Time can you let me do what I'm doing no.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: You gotta tell.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 7: Me I'm sorry because I'm like I'm trying to throw
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 7: the things that aren't there but we do have an
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 7: audio from the audience so we opened it up after
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 7: we listened to all this music and Kirk Franklin took
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 7: us to church And there was an audience member who
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 7: asked Kirk Franklin about what did Kirk Franklin have to kill.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: And we hear from Kirk already.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 4: Continue to be who he is.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 7: Go ahead.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 8: Don't cuss when I'm talking about Kirk Franklin.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 7: Go ahead. I am what I am. The album title.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 7: What's the message to the world about who you are?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 7: That is who you are.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 18: I am blessed and broken. I am a child of God.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 18: I am a flawed representative. I am happy and healing.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 18: I am a love of Jesus. I also walk on smoke.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 18: I am confrontational, but I'm also compassionate. I'm not afraid
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 18: to fight, but I am very eager to love. I
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 18: am so okay now at this stage in my life
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 18: with me. I'm so comfortable now.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 7: Kirk Franklin is the one, one.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 6: He will forever and always be my favorite gospel artist,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: but I never realized how much he sound like Goose, St.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 7: Patrick, James. Everything doesn't revolve around that series.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: Everything doesn't revolve around that series, don't you?
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: He sound like Amari Hall, what he do?
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: Sound like he was praying. I close my eyes for
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: a second.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 7: He always sound like he praying. He has that voice.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 7: But yeah, you guys can go and listen to that
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 7: conversation in full on the latest with Lauren LaRose of
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 7: the podcast because it was a great conversation. And when
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 7: the project drops I know that there's going to be
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 7: a lot of conversation around it. I feel like this
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 7: is going to be, I mean, he's always nominated for things,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 7: but I definitely see like Grammy nominated for this project.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 4: Like it was really amazing. Hallelujah.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 13: I don't, I don't, I don't know.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 4: You said that earlier.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't. That was behind the scenes.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 7: I didn't say that.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: Oh no, that was when the interview was playing.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 7: I don't know what he's talking about.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 8: All right, y'all.
• 1:34:10
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• 1:34:14
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• 1:34:17
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• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: You all right, Lo?
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 7: This is not a real place.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: It's not.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: She did all she could do to protect that. And
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: here you go.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 10: Lord.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, boy. She's talking in circles. Oh, my goodness.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 10: Sorry, Lo.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we got the people's choice mix.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: Good morning.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: Morning, everybody. It's DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha Guy.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. Now, salute to Danielle Brooks
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: for joining us. That's my girl.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, salute to myself. What's the name of the film?
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 10: Huh?
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: If I go, they will miss me. Exactly.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 4: Flew to South Carolina's own Danielle Brooks, man.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 7: Oh, she from South Carolina with you?
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: Pink South Carolina.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 10: Crazy.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: I love her. Oh, you wasn't here. I forgot.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 7: No, I wasn't here, but I love her so much.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: And she been killing it so far in New York fashion.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: Yes, she has.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: And Jessica Tarlow for joining us.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jessica Tarlow's new book, I Disagree, Winning Arguments Without
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: Losing Friends, is out right now. I really enjoy Jessica's perspective.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: She comes on Fox News. Well, she comes on Fox News,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: and she comes on The Five every day. And it's
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: like she's the lone liberal at a table full of
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: extremely right conservatives, but she always holds her own, man.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: So salute to Jessica Tarlow.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: It's time to get up out of here.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 23: Jess?
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  Speaker 7: Yo, I got shows September 25th.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: I got shows!
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 4: I got shows in different areas.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: Let's go.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 7: Y'all are so childish.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so Atlantic City, make sure you get your tickets
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: at JustTheLawrenceOfficial.com. I will be at the Harris Casino Friday,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: September 25th.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 7: So get your tickets. I got meet and greet.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 6: I will be having a meet and greet, and I
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: will have books on hand plus merch, y'all.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 7: Run it up, Atlantic City. I'll see y'all.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: All right, Charlamagne, you got a positive note?
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  Speaker 4: I do, man.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: Listen, you don't have to rush just because others seem ahead,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: all right? Keep moving at your own pace. Trust your journey.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: And remember that steady progress is still progress, man. I
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: saw this on the healing guide this morning. You know,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: I love the healing guide, but.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: Turtles don't rush or stress.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 4: They don't care who's ahead.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: They just keep moving, taking one step at a time
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: through calm and chaos. They always reach the shore because
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: speed doesn't determine progress.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: Patience does. You don't need to sprint, man. Just keep going.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: Slow progress is still progress and peace will always outlast pressure.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 4: Have a great day.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: Breakfast club, bitches.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 4: You all finished or you all done?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 5: Woke up.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: Woke up. Wake you up. Wake that ass up. Program
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: your alarm to power 105.1 on iHeartRadio.