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- 0:01Welcome to episode number one hundred and sixty one of the Death of Journalism podcast.
- 0:05My name is John Zigler. I'm your host. In today's show,
- 0:07President Biden's declining mental acuity is back in the news. Doctor Fauci finally gets
- 0:12publicly exposed and excoriated in congressional testimony, the Caitlin Clark Angel Reese controversy explodes,
- 0:21and some thoughts on the eightieth anniversary of the D Day Invasion. We
- 0:26begin this episode of the podcast with the post conviction for Donald Trump polling still
- 0:32trickling in. I'm a bit underwhelmed and disappointed by the number and quality of
- 0:37polls that have come out so far since the conviction. However, I do
- 0:41think we have enough data to start to make some analysis and maybe even some
- 0:49conclusions about the impact, at least in the short run of Donald Trump being
- 0:54convicted of thirty four felon accounts. And it looks like exactly what I told
- 0:59you was going to be, which is basically nothing, and that in itself
- 1:04is absolutely astonishing. And again, it's a little too early to be coming
- 1:11to conclusions, and we don't have any really good state by state polling post
- 1:15conviction as of yet, and it's understandable because it's still been a very short
- 1:19period of time since the conviction. But I'm sure that there are all sorts
- 1:23of polling outlets that are in the field who are desperate to find out what
- 1:27impact, if any, the convictions have had. And the data so far
- 1:34indicates, just as I suggested that it would, that it's a wash that
- 1:38maybe, just maybe Biden has picked up a point or two nationally, which
- 1:45is irrelevant since this is going to be an election that is determined by six
- 1:49or seven states. It looks like six states at this point because there's numerous
- 1:53polls in North Carolina, even post conviction polls in North Carolina, that have
- 1:59shown once again, as I've told you for quite a long time, Trump
- 2:01is not losing North Carolina, and if he loses North Carolina, there's no
- 2:06election to be won anyway if you're on the Trump team, So you know,
- 2:09it's irrelevant essentially, and it does not look at this point at this
- 2:14point as if North Carolina is even going to be all that close, even
- 2:17based on post conviction polling data, and so I am still going to be
- 2:23waiting and looking for really good hard state by state polling post conviction, but
- 2:30based upon what we've currently seen. If you're looking for some sort of impact
- 2:36in the polling from the convictions, you got to use a microscope. It's
- 2:40it's maybe there there's a pointer or two that seems to be shifting towards Biden,
- 2:46but that's well within the margin of error. That could just be noise,
- 2:51that could be coincidence. Who the hell knows what that is now.
- 2:54I have said that I don't believe that there's going to be a lot of
- 2:58short term impact act of this conviction in the pulling. There could still be
- 3:02a drip drip, drip erosion impact in the longer run, or who knows,
- 3:08maybe there won't be may maybe he could actually work in the other direction.
- 3:12I did not buy this pro Trump narrative that, oh my gosh,
- 3:15all of a sudden, massive amounts of people who were Trump's skeptical or not
- 3:21going to vote or not going to vote for Trump, We're going to be
- 3:23so enraged that they would suddenly be Trump supporters, especially for instance, in
- 3:29the black community. I mean, there could be some anecdotal evidence of that,
- 3:31but I don't think that it was such a major factor. You're going
- 3:35to see it in the immediate data, and that has been the case.
- 3:38But I've also thought that we're not going to see a lot of loss of
- 3:43Trump's support, mainly because the alternative is Joe Biden. And I think that
- 3:49the biggest takeaway from all this is how astonishing it is, how mind blowing
- 3:54it is that you can have a situation that would have been a seven point
- 4:01zero earthquake in any other presidential election prior to Donald Trump entering the political arena,
- 4:12and it would have absolutely ended a presidential election if there had been a
- 4:17conviction on thirty four felonies, even if no one really thought that the allegations
- 4:24were very serious, or that there was no real victim in the crime,
- 4:29and that the jury was incredibly biased and the we're all sorts of d process
- 4:32problems. It's just absolutely amazing and a remarkable testament to how bitterly and deeply
- 4:40divided we are as a country that you could have this happen and a week
- 4:46later it's as if nothing happened. I've talked a lot on this podcast about
- 4:55how it's almost impossible in this day and age for an event to really matter,
- 5:02to make a huge impact for all sorts of reasons. Fragmentation of media
- 5:10and the political divide, and our desensitization, and the fact we don't trust
- 5:15the media anymore. All of these are real and legitimate reasons. But I
- 5:20do think it's worthy of taking a moment and just kind of contemplating Holy crap.
- 5:28I mean, forget about what you think of the verdict. That you
- 5:30could convict somebody on thirty four polony charges and it appears, underline, appears
- 5:38as of this moment, that it has no real impact on people's opinions about
- 5:44whether or not that person should be the next president of the United States.
- 5:48In a weird I'm conflicted about this because I'm obviously very conflicted about Trump.
- 5:53I don't like Trump personally, I've never voted for him. I have huge
- 5:57problems with what is second term might look like. But I also despise Biden.
- 6:02I hate the trial, I hate the verdict. I mean, there's
- 6:05so many elements of this that are very, very frustrating, and so part
- 6:11of me is thinking, Okay, does this mean that the American public has
- 6:15seen through the conviction, at least those that aren't Biden supporters. I'm sure
- 6:20that you know Biden supporters were already going to vote for Biden. They're more
- 6:25deeply invested in voting for Biden now because they don't want to vote for a
- 6:29convicted felon. But it's not changing anyone's minds or anyone's votes. Similarly,
- 6:34if you're already in the Trump camp, you're not leaving because of this.
- 6:39This has just angered you further and motivated you even more to vote for Donald
- 6:45Trump because you think that he is a martyr, a victim, and they're
- 6:48out to get him because he's a danger to the status quo, which you
- 6:53hate. And so these are all part of the reasons why I thought the
- 6:59most likely scenario here was that there would be a political wash, that there
- 7:02would be no real impact again at least in the short run, when it
- 7:06came to Trump's convictions, and it appears as of right now that that could
- 7:12change. You get two polls that all of a sudden, you know,
- 7:15once the dust settles, go in one direction to the other. I'm willing
- 7:17to change my mind on this, but based upon the data we currently have,
- 7:21which is not as strong as I would have hoped or expected. But
- 7:27I'm basing this on public data as well as things that Steve Cortes, my
- 7:31friend and former Trump aid former de Santa se who has been doing independent polling,
- 7:35has said about what's going on with his organization post conviction that there's really
- 7:41very little if any impact in the polling because of these convictions against Donald Trump,
- 7:49and it's really astonishing and I think worthy of at least a little bit
- 7:55of contemplation. I mean, the media has completely moved on. I mean
- 8:00this week there's more discussion of Caitlin Clark and Angel Rees, the fact that
- 8:05a convicted Fallon might be the next president of the United States, even in
- 8:09the mainstream liberal news media, and part of that moving on where you know,
- 8:13I've been right about the polling so far, I had been totally wrong
- 8:18about what I thought was going to happen with the jurors. I predicted rather
- 8:22emphatically that we would see in at least one interview with a Trump juror that
- 8:28was going to be used by the right as aha, this person's a left
- 8:33wing whack job who was a political activist in that jury room. Well,
- 8:39we've not seen an interview with any of the jurors, and as far as
- 8:43I can tell, normally, if these things are going to happen. You
- 8:46hear murmurs of them as of this taping. There is no sign that one
- 8:52even one of the twelve jurors is imminently doing a media interview, which I
- 8:58don't even have an explanation for that in this day and age. I find
- 9:03that almost as mind in fact more mind blowing to the fact that Trump being
- 9:07convicted of thirty four felaty counts is not impacting the polling. I mean,
- 9:13they've got to be bombarded. I mean, this is a tremendous opportunity for
- 9:16any of these jurors to become famous for fifteen minutes, which is very difficult
- 9:22for most people to resist in this day and age, and to have twelve
- 9:24people resisted is amazing. Now. Is it possible that the twelve of them
- 9:30all made a deal that they would either not talk or they would talk together,
- 9:33and that that's taking longer to organize. Yeah, that's all possible.
- 9:37So I'm not declaring a defeat yet on my prediction. It's just that it
- 9:41certainly has not come true yet, and it doesn't have any signs that it's
- 9:45coming true. But I guess I'm just more flummoxed by the entire idea that
- 9:50we could be a week out from this and we're just all moving on now.
- 9:54Obviously, it's going to come back when Trump is sentenced in July,
- 9:58just before for the Republican Convention. So obviously this is a story that's nowhere
- 10:05near over with. But as of right now, it really is amazing how
- 10:11short our attention spans are and how quickly everybody, including the media, is
- 10:16moving on. Now. The right wing media wants to move on to a
- 10:18completely different trial, which is the Hunter Biden trial, which I'm not going
- 10:22to talk much at all about because I don't find it to be of interest.
- 10:26I've been very consistent when it comes to Hunter Biden. Yeah, I
- 10:30mean, are there legitimate issues regarding Hunter Biden and the way that the media
- 10:35handled his laptop in twenty twenty apps of Frickin' looty. That was absolute media
- 10:41malpractice, And if it had been in reverse, if that had been Donald
- 10:45Trump's son, we would not have seen any of the ways that the media
- 10:50systematically censored that story. One hundred percent. I agree with that in totality.
- 10:58However, for me to get worked up about Hunter Biden, I have
- 11:01to have some evidence that there is proof of Joe Biden either I mean,
- 11:07done something wrong or being compromised in his job. And while there's been a
- 11:13lot of smoke in this area, I have yet to see any fire,
- 11:16and a lot of the smoke has turned out to be utter bullshit, especially
- 11:20when it comes to the whole bribery situation and scandal. And I am one
- 11:24of the very very few conservative commentators that has never jumped on the whole bribery
- 11:31narrative when it comes to Joe Biden and Hunter Biden and their business dealings.
- 11:37However, there's one aspect to the Hunter Biden trial that I do find to
- 11:41be of interest, and that is that Joe Biden is basically engaging in jury
- 11:46tampering by publicly commenting on his son's trial and declaring that he has done nothing
- 11:54wrong. And while the evidence is remarkably strong in the case, it seems
- 12:00as if the defense is going for jury nullification, which would be rather ironic
- 12:05and telling, giving what just happened in the Trump case, which I believe
- 12:09is the opposite of jury nullification. I believe that the jury just acted in
- 12:13their own self interest. They may have thought that they were doing the right
- 12:16thing, because the judge and the prosecutors told them that they were, but
- 12:20they all very much clearly wanted to convict Donald Trump for their own personal political
- 12:26purposes. And what the Hunter Biden defense seems to be doing is going for
- 12:33the opposite. You know, let Hunter Biden go because you'll like President Biden,
- 12:39or because you're liberal, or because the President says that he hasn't done
- 12:43anything wrong, or you don't want to make the President feel bad about his
- 12:46son getting convicted. And so that I think is relevant. I think that
- 12:52Joe Biden has acted inappropriately when it comes to this, and there's a narrative
- 12:56out there that the left is trying to spin that somehow this shows the the
- 13:00Department of Justice is objective because they're pursuing charges against the president's son. But
- 13:05that's not the way this went down, and they tried very desperately to get
- 13:09rid of this. And if it hadn't been for a jud blowing up a
- 13:11sweetheart plea bargain deal, there wouldn't be this trial. So again, I'm
- 13:16paying attention slightly to the Hunter Biden situation, but I'm not nearly as obsessed
- 13:22about it as many other right wing commentators are. However, I'm much more
- 13:26interested in the story involving Joe Biden's declining mental acuity, because obviously this is
- 13:33a massive issue regardles at least should be a massive issue, regardless of your
- 13:37political persuasion, because if you have a president who is not mentally capable of
- 13:43doing the job, that's a huge problem. And the Wall Street Journal is
- 13:52out with what is being called a bombshell report involving what people are observing about
- 13:58President Biden behind closed door. Now, there are several aspects of this story
- 14:03that I find to be interesting. I'm actually scheduled to do a News Nation
- 14:07television appearance tonight with Dan Abrams, which, if it happens, and I
- 14:11think that it will, will have occurred before this podcast is actually out,
- 14:16So I'll tell you about whatever happens there in the next episode of the podcast.
- 14:20But the first part of this I find to be kind of amusing is
- 14:28the idea that we need people to tell us what's happening behind closed doors,
- 14:33as if we don't have a mountain of evidence in the public sphere via video
- 14:41of Joe Biden clearly not being at the top of his game mentally. I
- 14:46mean, one of the things that Biden I think actually benefits from in this
- 14:52arena is that there are hundreds of examples of where he clearly is out of
- 14:58it, and therefore it's difficult, if not impossible, to just pick one.
- 15:05I was actually thinking about this in preparation for that News Nation television appearance,
- 15:11and I thought it would be kind of silly for me to pick any
- 15:13one example, because it's not an issue where it's aha, here's the smoking
- 15:20gun moment. There are so many of them that it kind of forms a
- 15:24tapestry of what appears to be the early on sets of dementia. One that
- 15:31comes to mind is, I mean, just recently, he claimed very publicly
- 15:35that he was the vice president of the United States during COVID, which is
- 15:39just insane. And that's something that was not only very important, but happened
- 15:45only a couple of years ago, and he thought he was vice president and
- 15:48that he helped fix the problem. But I mean, this happens on almost
- 15:54a daily basis. So the entire premise of the Wall Street Journal article,
- 16:00which is behind closed doors people are very concerned about whether or not Biden is
- 16:04losing it mentally, is frankly almost hilarious. But let me tell you what.
- 16:11The Wall Street Journal reported. This is through the New York Post,
- 16:14which is owned by the same company, News Corp. The New York Post
- 16:18headline about the Wall Street Journal story was Biden eighty one showing signs of the
- 16:23cline as polls and aids detail use of cheat sheets, closing eyes for extended
- 16:30periods of time. Quote not the same person. President Biden's cognitive decline has
- 16:37become obvious and concerning the several high ranking congressional lawmakers, according to a bombshell
- 16:44new report, which describes how the eighty one year old commander in chief increasingly
- 16:48relies on cheat sheets in meetings and at times has closed his eyes for so
- 16:53long that people wondered if he had drifted off. Some of the more than
- 16:59forty five Republican and Democratic lawmakers and staffers interviewed by The Wall Street Journal,
- 17:04I'd like to know numbers on that, but there apparently aren't any, also
- 17:08described a president who spoke so softly during meetings that participants struggled to understand him.
- 17:17Others noted that Biden's demeanor and grasp of policy details varied by the day,
- 17:23and he frequently relied on notes and deferred to aids during conferences. Quote,
- 17:30you couldn't be there and not feel uncomfortable, one person who met with
- 17:34the President during critical negotiations over congressional funding for Ukraine AID in January told The
- 17:41Wall Street Journal. A senior GOPA told The New York Post that the alarming
- 17:48allegations in the report are why the Justice Department has refused to release tapes of
- 17:55Biden's interview with former Special Counsel Robert Hurr in the classified documents investigation. Now,
- 18:03that last point there, to me, is very critical, because you
- 18:08don't get to claim that a story like this is not on firm footing,
- 18:15or shouldn't be run, or might not be accurate, when your Department of
- 18:22Justice is going to unprecedented lens to prevent the public from being fully exposed to
- 18:30an interview with the president that we paid for. We paid for that interview
- 18:37with the special counsel, and we can't hear it. We can't. We
- 18:41have no idea for sure just how bad it was, which is if so
- 18:47facto, in my opinion, evidence that it must be really, really bad,
- 18:52because if it wasn't, it would be publicly exposed instead they're trying desperately
- 19:00to protect the president by keeping that out of the public sphere, and so
- 19:04that to me opens the not just the door, opens the floodgates for all
- 19:10sorts of legitimate speculation about Joe Biden's state of mental acuity or lack thereof.
- 19:18But to me, we're still missing the big picture in all this. My
- 19:23opinion on Joe Biden's mental acuity is a bit nuanced. I don't think he's
- 19:29as bad as a lot of conservatives try to claim, or that even Trump
- 19:33himself says. On a regular basis. I think that when it really matters,
- 19:38situations like the State of the Union address, which we've talked about numerous
- 19:41times before, where Biden can still get it together, that he's not completely
- 19:48off the reservation. And I've seen this in my own life with highly successful
- 19:53men in their eighties. I've seen exactly the same kind of signs that Joe
- 19:57Biden is showing, you know, on the big holidays, on Christmas,
- 20:03Birthdays, anniversaries, graduations. Generally, they can get it together, and
- 20:10I think Biden is in that category. So when it really matters, he's
- 20:15there. Mostly the problem is that the presidency is a twenty four seven three
- 20:21sixty five job, and not everything that matters is predictable, and so they're
- 20:27gonna be times when he's got to be there. Especially the most important times
- 20:32are not predictable because that's when some sort of crisis or emergency happens. And
- 20:37so is he going to be there when it matters most? Is he going
- 20:42to be able to get it together? So that's my general view of Joe
- 20:48Biden's mental acuity. I think he is declining. I think that he's not
- 20:53there all the time, but when he really needs to be, he generally
- 20:56is. But here's my biggest point, and I hope to make this on
- 21:00News Nation tonight. It's just astonishing to me. This kind of reminds me
- 21:07of the way the media was pretending that the Trump trial jury didn't have this
- 21:12perverse incentive to convict him to try to influence a presidential election. Whether that
- 21:17was real or imagined or in their mindset doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether
- 21:21not the conviction actually impacted it. It's what was in their head and what
- 21:25their motivation was, the perception of the situation of the time in which they
- 21:30decided to convict him. Well, in my mind, it's somewhat similar that
- 21:33we're just pretending. I hate when the media pretends, we're just pretending that
- 21:40he's not applying for a four year extension for this job and that he won't
- 21:47be eighty five years old while still being president of the United States. First
- 21:56of all, nobody should be president of the United States at eighty five or
- 22:00regardless of how strong they are physically and mentally. But here's the kicker,
- 22:06when you're eighty one and showing clear signs of decline. And by the way,
- 22:12you know, one of the things that the Democrats have done this is
- 22:15really hilarious. Joe Scarborough, former Republican congressman who's now a liberal sellout for
- 22:21many, many years, on MSNBC, he tweeted about the Wall Street Journal
- 22:25article and tried to claim, well, this is hypocrisy in the part of
- 22:29some Republicans, because it wasn't that long ago that Republicans like Kevin McCarthy were
- 22:33saying that Joe Biden is absolutely with it. Well, Hello, things change
- 22:41with regard to people when they are in their eighties, and sometimes they happen
- 22:45rather rapidly. There was one Democratic analyst or activist that actually responded to the
- 22:52Wall Street Journal article by posting an article that's three years old, which has
- 22:59comments from Republicans saying that Joe Biden is with it three years old, and
- 23:03the pretending that it was a contemporarius contemporaneous article. These things happen quickly,
- 23:10and they happen very quickly once someone is in their eighties. I've seen it
- 23:15myself. I'm sure you've seen it in your own life. There's nothing magical
- 23:21about being president of the United States. If anything, it works in reverse
- 23:26because of the enormous pressure of the job. No job ages you more and
- 23:32more quickly than the presidency. And so the fact that it is obvious that
- 23:38there's decline in ay one should make any rational person think, my god,
- 23:45what's it going to be like at eighty five if he gets re hired for
- 23:48the job, it's going to be beyond absurd and incredibly dangerous. And I
- 23:56have theorized and I continue to believe that it's never going to get to that
- 24:00point because there's no chance that Joe Biden serves out a second full term.
- 24:08None. I mean I shouldn't say none. I mean we're living in a
- 24:12crazy world. But there it's it would shock me if Joe Biden was able
- 24:18to serve out a full second term, because not just because of the physical
- 24:25and capability of doing that from a mental standpoint, if he goes on the
- 24:30on his current decline, if he keeps going in this direction, it ain't
- 24:34gonna stop. I mean, come on, does has anyone ever seen it
- 24:37stop? Once you start the downhill slide it and he won. It doesn't
- 24:41get better at eighty five. We all know this. This is as obvious
- 24:47as it gets. But it's not just that that makes me convinced he won't
- 24:51serve out a second full term. It's because the Democratic Party would have a
- 24:56massive, massive self interest in Joe Biden resigning from office after the midterm election
- 25:03of twenty twenty at twenty six, not in just one twenty eight, twenty
- 25:07twenty six, the midterm election, and then in January twenty twenty seven resigning
- 25:11from office, and that would be a pinball machine of benefits for the Democratic
- 25:18Party. They get rid of Joe Biden, they get rid of a president
- 25:21that by that point would be even less qualified mentally to hold the position,
- 25:26and then they get to have the first female president, Kamala Harris. They
- 25:30get to completely change her image and her narrative because now she's an incumbent president
- 25:38who can run for two more terms. Constitutionally, this cannot be emphasized enough.
- 25:45I understand that conservatives do not fear Kamala Harris at all, for understandable
- 25:52reasons, because she's just so annoying and so dumb. But I am not
- 25:56in that category. I fear her much more than he Joe Biden, and
- 26:00I fear her because once she's an historic incumbent, all of a sudden things
- 26:07change, and if you know things are going decently well in the country,
- 26:11I have no idea that'll be happening in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight,
- 26:15I doubted, but it could be if we're doing well economically. Having
- 26:18nothing to do with democratic policies, I think that there is a very good
- 26:22chance that she wins in twenty twenty eight, especially since Republicans will not have
- 26:27under this scenario a viable candidate, because what's it going to be Donald Trump
- 26:33for a fourth time, Because under this scenario, Trump will have lost in
- 26:38twenty twenty four, and unless Trump dies, no one else could be the
- 26:44Republican nominee. So as I think about the paths forward, this mental acuity
- 26:51issue has a lot to do with what's going to happen in twenty twenty eight,
- 26:56Because if Kamala Harris is an incumbent president again to a Republican party that's
- 27:00in disarray thanks to Donald Trump, then I think she's got a hell of
- 27:06a chance of winning, especially as historic first female president. And so if
- 27:11I had to encapsulate this in a short sentence or two, to me,
- 27:15this issue is not about what's happening in twenty twenty four. Think about twenty
- 27:22twenty seven. In twenty twenty eight, when you've got a president who's already
- 27:26eighty one years old and in clear mental decline. And so to me,
- 27:33you know that that is a huge issue. And if I'm on the Trump
- 27:38campaign, which obviously I'm not, I am absolutely focusing on having people think
- 27:47about twenty twenty seven and twenty twenty eight. It's not about today. It's
- 27:52about three or four years from now, And I would be using the DOJ
- 27:59keeping that classified documents investigation with a special counsel interview under wraps at every possible
- 28:07moment, and one hundred percent at the debate on CNN. If I'm Trump,
- 28:14I am hammering this. Why won't you let the public be fully exposed
- 28:21to the interview with you that we paid for? To me, that has
- 28:26got to influence people. I mean, why won't that? Why is that
- 28:30interview not made public? So think about this in four years time, and
- 28:37why are you hiding that interview that actually allowed the special counsel to determine that
- 28:45you you basically were so out of it you couldn't be convicted by a jury
- 28:51because no one could be sure of what your mindset was because your memory is
- 28:55that bad. So I mean that, to me, is an incredibly important
- 29:00issue and one that should resonate with at least some swing voters. Thanks for
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