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- 0:03Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey.
- 0:06Speaker 1: It's Thursday March thirteen, twenty twenty five. Unjustified and a
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- 1:07Speaker 1: our tech editor Jared Lynch live now at the Australian
- 1:11Speaker 1: dot com AU Police say a string of antisemitic attacks
- 1:19Speaker 1: were part of a criminal hoax, not a reflection of
- 1:23Speaker 1: anti Jewish sentiment, but far from reassuring Jewish Australians, it's
- 1:28Speaker 1: left a community with more questions than answers today. What's
- 1:32Speaker 1: in it for criminals to spread fear among Jews? And
- 1:36Speaker 1: how do we interpret those terrifying acts of violence?
- 1:39Speaker 2: Now we are now confident that these tip offs were
- 1:47Speaker 2: fabricated and the caravan plot was an elaborate scheme contrived
- 1:51Speaker 2: by organized criminals domestically and from offshore.
- 1:56Speaker 1: On Monday, the Australian Federal Police and New South Wales
- 1:59Speaker 1: Police offered their theory on why a caravan packed with
- 2:03Speaker 1: explosives was left in a suburban Sydney street in January.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Today, I can reveal that the caravan was never going
- 2:10Speaker 2: to cause a mass casualty event, but instead was concocted
- 2:14Speaker 2: by criminals who wanted to cause fear for personal benefit.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Well, that's good, right, alleged offenders are before the courts,
- 2:23Speaker 1: case closed. Except for Australia's Jewish community, it's very much not.
- 2:31Speaker 3: None of the individuals we have arrested during Pearl have
- 2:33Speaker 3: displayed any form of anti Semitic ideology.
- 2:37Speaker 1: This is Dave Hudson from New South Wales Police.
- 2:40Speaker 3: We don't believe there is any ongoing threat to the
- 2:42Speaker 3: community from a terrorist act. However, outside of Pearl we
- 2:46Speaker 3: are continuing to see anti Semitic incidents and each of
- 2:50Speaker 3: those will be fully investigated.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Chrissy Barrett from the Australian Federal Police.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Almost immediately, experienced investigators within the JOW counter Terrorism Team
- 3:01Speaker 2: believed that the caravan was part of a fabricated terrorist plot,
- 3:05Speaker 2: essentially a criminal con job.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Stephen Rice is The Australian's New South Wales editor, Ricey,
- 3:13Speaker 1: how has that announcement gone over in the Jewish community
- 3:16Speaker 1: and beyond Well.
- 3:17Speaker 4: It's gone down like a lead balloon, and so it should.
- 3:21Speaker 4: I mean, it was a really surprising statement for both
- 3:25Speaker 4: the AFP and the New South Wales Police to come
- 3:27Speaker 4: out with effectively declaring that there was no anti Semitism
- 3:32Speaker 4: behind this, no actual anti semitism, and that it was
- 3:36Speaker 4: all some kind of air hoax. But the reality is
- 3:39Speaker 4: that they haven't caught mister Big yet. They've charged, most
- 3:43Speaker 4: recently fourteen people, none of them in relation to the
- 3:48Speaker 4: caravan itself. Surprisingly and yet despite the fact that they
- 3:52Speaker 4: haven't got mister Big they seemed to be able to
- 3:56Speaker 4: declare that there is no anti Semitism as a otive
- 4:00Speaker 4: behind this, and I'm not sure that I get that,
- 4:04Speaker 4: and certainly the Jewish leaders that I've spoken to don't
- 4:08Speaker 4: get it either. It has created, i think, in the
- 4:12Speaker 4: wider community, a sentiment that it was all nothing really,
- 4:16Speaker 4: that it was just a bunch of low lifes who
- 4:19Speaker 4: were paid to do this, and so it actually doesn't
- 4:22Speaker 4: represent any kind of significant anti Semitism in the community,
- 4:27Speaker 4: and I think that's wrong, and I think the messaging
- 4:30Speaker 4: from both the New South Wales police and the FEDS
- 4:34Speaker 4: should have been a lot clearer on this.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Okay, So just step me through this like a Ma Toddler.
- 4:40Speaker 1: One of the things that police need is intelligence about
- 4:44Speaker 1: what's going on in the criminal community. This is how
- 4:47Speaker 1: they progress from learning about one crime to potentially uncovering
- 4:50Speaker 1: a whole lot of other crimes or plots that are
- 4:52Speaker 1: still underway. So let's say mister Big had committed some
- 4:59Speaker 1: drug offenses and is either in jail or is overseas
- 5:02Speaker 1: trying to avoid being brought back to Australia to face charges.
- 5:07Speaker 1: In the ordinary course of events, a high level criminal
- 5:10Speaker 1: knows things, so he's trying to sell that information essentially
- 5:16Speaker 1: to the police, or in this case, trick the police.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Is that right?
- 5:19Speaker 4: Yeah? The age old example of this is the krim
- 5:22Speaker 4: who says, I know where there's a bunch of rocket launchers,
- 5:25Speaker 4: and if we can do a deal and you can
- 5:28Speaker 4: talk to people and maybe I get three or four
- 5:30Speaker 4: years off my sentence, I can tell you where these
- 5:33Speaker 4: rocket launchers are. In that case, they've gone down this
- 5:36Speaker 4: road before, and the rocket launchers turn out to be
- 5:39Speaker 4: fifty years old or more. Usually just nonexistent. But there
- 5:43Speaker 4: are cases where police and prosecuting authorities will maybe do
- 5:49Speaker 4: deals is perhaps putting it too strongly, but will take
- 5:52Speaker 4: into account information that is given by criminals. What I
- 5:56Speaker 4: fail to see in this case, Yes, the caravan, you
- 6:00Speaker 4: can see that. It's a nice package to deliver to
- 6:03Speaker 4: the police. You've got a caravan, it's got explosives, it's
- 6:06Speaker 4: dressed up with antisemitic literature. It's perfect. You know, you
- 6:10Speaker 4: can virtually tie a bow around it and give it
- 6:13Speaker 4: to the cops. As at present. That's fine, But what
- 6:16Speaker 4: about the fourteen people who've most recently been charged. They
- 6:20Speaker 4: are all just low lifes who've been paid to go
- 6:24Speaker 4: around burning some cars, scribbling racist graffiti on walls. What
- 6:30Speaker 4: I don't understand is what advantage is that to mister Big.
- 6:35Speaker 4: What leverage does he get out of having all these scumbags?
- 6:40Speaker 4: I don't get it.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if the alleged scumbags just lead you back
- 6:45Speaker 1: to mister Bigg exactly.
- 6:47Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like mister Big is going here, you know,
- 6:50Speaker 4: go and investigate all these people that I've hired to
- 6:53Speaker 4: do this stuff. It doesn't make sense. There is so
- 6:57Speaker 4: much about this case still that doesn't make sense, and
- 7:01Speaker 4: the mixed messaging that's coming from both the New South
- 7:04Speaker 4: Wales cops and the federal cops is not helping one bit.
- 7:08Speaker 4: They cannot get their act together. They can't even agree
- 7:11Speaker 4: on whether it's an overseas based actor or a local It's.
- 7:16Speaker 1: Important to note here many of these individuals are making
- 7:19Speaker 1: their way through the courts. Many of these claims are
- 7:22Speaker 1: just allegations at this stage, and everyone has a right
- 7:25Speaker 1: to a fair trial. Since October seven, twenty twenty three,
- 7:34Speaker 1: when har mass fighters slaughtered and greaped civilians in Israel
- 7:37Speaker 1: and took hundreds of hostages, the Jewish community around the world,
- 7:41Speaker 1: including here in Australia has been on high alert for
- 7:44Speaker 1: a rise in anti Semitic sentiment. Here at The Australian,
- 7:53Speaker 1: we've spent the past seventeen months covering how anti Israel
- 7:56Speaker 1: and pro Palestine groups have expressed themselves in marches, university
- 8:01Speaker 1: encampments and on social media. But in the past six
- 8:06Speaker 1: months or so the words seemed to become actions.
- 8:11Speaker 3: It's a problem that appears to be growing faster than
- 8:14Speaker 3: the police operation trying to stop it.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Beginning Melbourne, where a synagogue has been destroyed in a
- 8:19Speaker 4: targeted attack.
- 8:20Speaker 1: At about ten past four this morning, offenders entered the
- 8:23Speaker 1: property and set the synagogue ablaze. Police start tonight asking
- 8:26Speaker 1: for your help.
- 8:27Speaker 3: After a cafe in Bondai went up in flames early
- 8:29Speaker 3: this morning.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Than on on Sea Lane at Kingsford, words too hateful
- 8:34Speaker 2: to say sprayed across cars and garage doors in Sydney.
- 8:39Speaker 1: Families awoke to the word Jew scrawled on their homes
- 8:43Speaker 1: or cars and the smell of smoke. Many of those
- 8:46Speaker 1: Sydney Jewish families are descendants of Holocaust survivors. For them,
- 8:50Speaker 1: the fear of where antisemitism can go suddenly became very real.
- 8:56Speaker 1: And when you understand that history. You know, the word
- 8:59Speaker 1: jew being spray painted on a wall is not just
- 9:02Speaker 1: a simple act of graffiti. That's exactly what was happening
- 9:06Speaker 1: in Germany and Austria in the nineteen thirties when Adolf
- 9:09Speaker 1: Hitler's rise was accompanied by terrifying attacks on Jewish homes
- 9:14Speaker 1: and businesses. The revelation in February that a caravan packed
- 9:19Speaker 1: with explosives and addresses of Jewish businesses had been discovered,
- 9:23Speaker 1: it just sent those levels of fear into the stratosphere.
- 9:28Speaker 2: We believe the person pulling the strings ont changes to
- 9:31Speaker 2: their criminal status, that maintained a distance from their scheme
- 9:35Speaker 2: and hired alleged local criminals to carry out parts of
- 9:38Speaker 2: their plan. This twisted, self serving criminality has terrorized Jewish Australians.
- 9:45Speaker 2: There was also unwarranted suspicion directed at other communities, and
- 9:49Speaker 2: that is also reprehensible.
- 9:53Speaker 4: I didn't think we should forget that since that October
- 9:56Speaker 4: seven attack. In twenty twenty three, the Master attack, something
- 10:00Speaker 4: like seven hundred anti Semitic attacks in Australia and the
- 10:06Speaker 4: later Strikeforce PEERL. I think they've arrested twenty nine people.
- 10:10Speaker 4: There is just no question there is a huge amount
- 10:14Speaker 4: of actual anti Semitic violence going on. And I'm not
- 10:19Speaker 4: talking about pro Palestinian marches or people being anti Israel.
- 10:24Speaker 4: I'm talking about actual anti Semitic jew hating stuff, you know,
- 10:30Speaker 4: that is increasingly degenerating into violence. And I'm even excluding,
- 10:36Speaker 4: if you will, these latest paid attempts, And I'm saying,
- 10:41Speaker 4: exclude it, even though we don't know the motivation of
- 10:45Speaker 4: the person directing it. Even if you exclude those, you know,
- 10:49Speaker 4: the extent of the violence against Jews in this country
- 10:52Speaker 4: is quite extraordinary still.
- 10:58Speaker 1: After the break. So when is a racist attack not
- 11:01Speaker 1: a racist attack. One of the things that I've been
- 11:16Speaker 1: intrigued about from the beginning is why the word Jew
- 11:20Speaker 1: being graffited on walls has been such a constant throughout
- 11:24Speaker 1: You know, if you know anything about history, you know
- 11:27Speaker 1: that that was the precursor to the Holocaust. That the
- 11:31Speaker 1: public shaming of Jews and the revelation of people's Jewish identity,
- 11:35Speaker 1: the outing of Jews that led in a direct line
- 11:40Speaker 1: to the Holocaust. I'm not saying that there's another Holocaust
- 11:43Speaker 1: in the offing, but that's why it was so chilling
- 11:46Speaker 1: for Jews in Sydney, so if we think perhaps some
- 11:51Speaker 1: or all of these anti Semitic attacks were committed or
- 11:55Speaker 1: inspired by other motives, you know, just sort of pure
- 11:58Speaker 1: criminality or something self serving motive, it seems awfully coincidental
- 12:03Speaker 1: that the manifestation of that is this unbelievably terrifying graffiti
- 12:09Speaker 1: of the word.
- 12:10Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, I just don't buy that these criminal acts,
- 12:17Speaker 4: which clearly have anti Semitism all over them, I don't
- 12:21Speaker 4: buy that there was no antisemitic motivation behind it at all.
- 12:29Speaker 4: And until we find the person behind it, until the
- 12:36Speaker 4: police actually bring in this criminal mastermind that they're talking about,
- 12:42Speaker 4: I don't think we can rule out what was going
- 12:46Speaker 4: through his mind and why he decided to create all
- 12:53Speaker 4: these incidents of pure anti Jewish terror for what reason
- 13:00Speaker 4: his own personal motives or is there a motivation? There
- 13:05Speaker 4: is their due hatred behind these actions?
- 13:10Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 13:10Speaker 1: I mean if I threw a brick through the window
- 13:12Speaker 1: of a black owned business, for example, and the brick
- 13:15Speaker 1: had the N word scrawled on it, and my motivation
- 13:19Speaker 1: for that was not actually creating a racist terror, but
- 13:23Speaker 1: was some other motive of my own, does it actually matter?
- 13:27Speaker 2: No?
- 13:27Speaker 4: And if somebody paid you to throw that brick through
- 13:31Speaker 4: that window. It's a racist attack.
- 13:35Speaker 1: One of the probably unintended consequences of the very emphatic
- 13:39Speaker 1: way in which both New South Wales Police and the
- 13:41Speaker 1: Federal Police have talked about this is that presumably it
- 13:44Speaker 1: gives sucker or ballast to those people who say they
- 13:50Speaker 1: are not anti Semitic, but they are anti Israel, or
- 13:54Speaker 1: that they reserve the right to be extremely critical of Israel.
- 13:57Speaker 1: And that's something that we've heard from the pro Palestinian
- 13:59Speaker 1: group from the beginning. You know, we can criticize Israel,
- 14:02Speaker 1: it's got nothing to do with the Jews. How does
- 14:05Speaker 1: that play out, do you think?
- 14:07Speaker 4: Well, you saw a bit of that play out in
- 14:09Speaker 4: the New South Wales Parliament and budget estimates, where you
- 14:12Speaker 4: had the Greens Sue Higginson basically accusing the Men's government
- 14:19Speaker 4: of using these non existent anti Semitic attacks as a
- 14:25Speaker 4: reason for them introducing what they claim is unnecessary and
- 14:30Speaker 4: outlandish legislation that was designed to protect Jewish communities. So
- 14:34Speaker 4: you've already got people jumping on the assumption that there
- 14:39Speaker 4: is no anti Semitism actually behind these attacks, and I
- 14:44Speaker 4: think we're going to see more of it.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Stephen Rice is the Australian's New South Wales edit up.
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