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What's next for the KNICKS after losing to the PACERS? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  That's are going to give him a significant They're going to
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  have a ton of money to spend. Why not put it in one of the top
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  three offensive players in the league?
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  We're going to be. Looking at Aaron.
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  Judge and saying that he. Can't win the big game, Michael
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  Jordan said. I played 82 games.
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  You don't see LeBron doing that. A.
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  Game where you got to go? Before.
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  I told you, giant feet Saquon Barker.
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  At this point, say Let's do it.
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  It is summer, ladies and gentlemen, here on Long Island.
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  It's been crazy. The weather's up in down.
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  Over the weekend, it was raining a little bit, then obviously got
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  a little cloudy, and now today it was like in its 70s.
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  We're hearing that it could hit about 85 on Wednesday.
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  So it's been a crazy, crazy time for New York and especially Long
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  Island. As we all know, New York
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  basketball is not something that we need to talk about, but we
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  will as the New York Knicks are absolutely collapse in game
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  number six. Embarrassing.
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  As we all know, Karl Anthony Towns had nothing to say after
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  the game, but that's a whole nother story.
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  I know Tyrese Halberton couldn't shut up after the game, but
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  that's just a whole, you know, a whole segment that we're going
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  to get into. But Jabba, how are you?
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  Good, good. How was golf, by the way?
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  You were playing golf over the weekend.
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  How was that? Yeah, it.
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  Was it was, it was good. We played well.
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  We kind of flighted ourselves out.
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  We shot a 58. So we, we didn't play bad enough
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  to get in the second flight and we weren't good enough to win
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  the first flight. But he's my son's team, so
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  that's all that matters. So that's, that was the only
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  thing going in and he slept through his alarm because he may
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  have had a long night before. I won't, I won't dime my own son
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  out. But he we're literally on the
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  range. And I looked at his buddies and
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  I was like, I go, I text card. I've seen he hasn't moved yet.
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  Like they're like, yeah, we tried to call him and it doesn't
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  answer. And then we're literally hitting
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  balls and they're like, yeah, he just woke up, said he slept
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  through his alarm. And he just, he, he went raw
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  straight to the first tee. And I saw him like four holes
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  passing him on the thing. And I go, how you doing?
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  He goes, I'm here. So it was, no, it was good.
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  The weather was great. Great morning.
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  They got some 91 here today. So I don't, I don't like the
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  weather here and I don't like the summer's here because it's
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  you too humid. The bugs come out.
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  You have all the mosquitoes that come out over here because we
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  live right by the water. And if you have a pool,
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  especially around six, 6:30 at night, those mosquitoes come out
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  and they live right next to the pools.
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  They drop their eggs or whatever the hell they do.
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  And then you have to deal with the the spiders at night.
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  They set up their webs. You can walk right into a spider
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  web. I can't.
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  That's the worst feeling. Yeah, because you're trying to
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  find the spider. You don't know.
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  Yeah, because I especially in the summertime, I wear these
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  hoodies. I wear like these half like half
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  sleeve hoodies. And I'm going in the hoodie
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  because I'm afraid it's hiding in the hood or it's in my
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  second, you know, second shirt under the hoodie.
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  It's it's horrible. It's a horrible feeling.
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  And you see these these spiders, they get so big.
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  They're humongous and. That's why I want to go to, I
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  want to go to Australia, but I've seen pictures of the size
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  of spiders that are over there. And I'm like, I got a buddy that
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  we went to college, he played basketball and I was just like,
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  dude, first of all, the flight sucks.
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  It's long. You gain a day and lose a day
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  back and forth and I'm like, man, but you got some animals
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  over there, dog that I I don't know if I even want to come in.
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  Have you ever checked out the spider crickets?
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  They're some of the ugliest bugs you'll ever see.
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  What a spider cricket. Yes, it's, it's shaped like a
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  spider, but it's a cricket. It jumps.
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  It's ugly, man. It's like a cricket.
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  But it's not a cricket. It's a spider.
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  It looks like a spider and it OPS and they're huge.
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  They're ginormous. Yes.
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  I if you're afraid, yeah, they're, they're really gross.
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  And they're, they're embedded here in Long Island.
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  They're all over the place. If you have yes, if you have
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  like a cellar. Oh, yes.
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  They, they make a weirder sound and they like, they communicate
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  in a different way. It's kind of like a click, like
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  a clicking sound. It it's they're ugly, ugly
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  things. And this is the time of year
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  when they come out and when it gets really warm and muggy out,
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  they're even worse. And if you get one in your
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  house, they like they double like in weeks.
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  So you got to make sure, Oh, they buy 2.
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  Yes, absolutely. They do buy 2 and they're bad
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  too. So you want to stay the hell
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  away from spider crickets. And by the way, if you kill
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  them, it's like a green like stuff like that ooze that comes
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  out of them. It's really.
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  Are they like 2? Like where if you kill them,
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  like sometimes they drop their eggs and that's how they like
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  dude, they say sometimes that's what happens.
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  They're ugly, ugly things. If you don't like crickets and
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  you don't call them. Sprickets.
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  Sprickets. But they're, they're called,
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  they are. They're sprickets.
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  They're spider crickets and, and you see a lot of them here on
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  Long Island and like I say, they double up.
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  So if you find one in your house, that means you have about
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  20 of them and they're outing somewhere.
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  So if you have a spider cricket in your house, any Long
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  Islanders or New Yorkers, you probably have a bunch of them
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  and they breed. So do you spray for?
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  Them, that's what they say. I mean, and I've, I've never had
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  them in in my place, but I've seen them before and like I say
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  it, that like I said, they multiply no matter where you
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  are. And and they do live outside,
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  but they mainly live inside your house.
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  So they like to be in dark places so you can't spot them.
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  And at night time they usually sneak out.
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  They're under your bed or they're under your chair.
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  And and dude, they're the ugliest things.
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  They were really, really ugly. So if you don't like spiders and
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  you don't like crickets, you're not going to like them.
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  And they do bite. You're right.
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  I've never been bitten by one of them.
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  I know Kevin probably has and I'm sure people that you've
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  known probably have seen them and bit you before, but I
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  they're not the the nicest animal or whatever the hell they
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  are that insect and whatever they call them.
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  The New York Knicks were eliminated by the Pacers in game
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  six, losing 125 to one O 8. Pascal Siakam was named Eastern
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  Conference Finals MVP, averaging 24.8 points per game, 5 rebounds
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  and 3.5 assists as well in the series.
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  When Siakam was receiving the award, Tyrese Halpern approached
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  the podium thinking he was going to get it, but they gave it to
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  Siakam instead. In Game 6, the Pacers shot 51.5%
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  from three, outscored the Knicks 23 to 6 on fast break points,
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  and forced 18 turnovers by the Knicks, scoring 34 points off
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  those turnovers. The Pacers had seven different
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  players scored double digits in in game number six.
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  Only two Knicks starters, OG and Anobi and Jalen Bronson hit
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  multiple multiple 3 pointers, both shooting 2 for seven.
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  The Knicks shot 28.1% from 3 and 65.4% from the free throw line.
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  Jaylen Bronson said he is proud of the team and says he is super
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  confident the Knicks will win a championship with this core of
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  players. Now first of all, I I just want
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  to give a shout out to Jaylen Bronson.
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  He's had a sensational season. He was that really, he was every
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  anything you want from a superstar.
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  He was a leader. He went out there and he played
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  his guts off and there's nothing you could say bad about Jaylen
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  Bronson. The problem right now with this
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  team doesn't lie on Jaylen Bronson's shoulders.
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  What it really lies on with ownership and management because
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  Karl Anthony Towns is not the guy.
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  I'm sorry, he's not the guy. Karl Anthony Towns, over the
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  last couple of years, you saw him with the Timberwolves and
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  now you got a chance to see him with the Knicks.
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  He doesn't show up in the big game.
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  Now everybody's going to say he didn't have such a bad Game 6.
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  When you look at numbers, numbers are deceiving because
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  Karl Anthony Towns cannot hit free throws in the important
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  parts of the game and he's had problems throughout this series
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  shooting up threes, anything from 23 feet or further, he
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  cannot hit a lick and it's been a big problem.
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  This guy's one of the best shooting big men in the NBA and
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  he had problems throughout this series hitting a three pointer.
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  I sit here today and I got I got some things to say about Tyrese
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  Halliburton and I'll say it very nicely and just a few moments.
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  I look at this team and if you're a New York Knicks fan and
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  you believe that this team is good enough to win a
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  championship, you guys are blind because there's a lot of
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  problems with this bench and there was a lot of problems with
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  some of the starters that the Knicks have been starting all
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  season long. Josh Hart is a great player.
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  He's not a starter. He's a bonafide 6 man.
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  Now. Throughout the regular season he
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  was great as a starter. He really was.
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  But that's because he is playing, you know, talent that
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  is not as good as the talent that you play in the playoffs
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  and when you play. Would you trade Kat then?
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  Or at least. I, I think the, I think the
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  Knicks are going to have to look at it.
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  I mean, obviously Karl Anthony Towns is getting $50 million a
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  year, a little bit more than 50 million Now making that kind of
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  money. The Knicks are going to have to
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  trade for a guy that's making somewhere around that money or
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  two guys that are making somewhere around that tier of
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  money. Now, I do believe Karl Anthony
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  Towns is a good player. I don't know.
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  I don't know if he's a playoff player and I don't know if he's
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  a secondary player. When it comes to winning a
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  championship, he's more like a third guy.
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  He's a Kevin Love, a guy that can do all the things that you
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  want a big man to do. Kevin Love was obviously one of
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  the best rebounders in the league when he went over there
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  to the Cavaliers. Remember when he played over
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  there out on the West Coast side and remember when he came from
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  UCLA, This guy was one of the best shooting big man that came
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  out of college. Now when he came into the NBA,
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  he transitioned when he from Minnesota and then obviously
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  when he went to the Cavaliers, he became one of those elite two
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  way players that you want your big man to be.
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  Karl Anthony Towns is not a two way player.
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  Karl Anthony Towns can't defend and so when you have Jalen
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  Bronson on the court with Carl Anthony Towns, you have a lack
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  of defense and it's been a big problem in this series and
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  throughout the playoffs. You seen it when Carl Anthony
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  Towns is playing with Jalen Bronson.
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  They don't have that two-dimensional type of game
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  where they're going to be able to compete with a Pacer team
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  that is going to have a starting five that are two-dimensional
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  players. Now you talk about Pascal
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  Siakam, he's a great player. He really is.
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  Now, is he a superstar player? No.
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  But what Pascal Siakam does is he's a great all around player.
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  He's really traditionally changed his game.
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  He's become a better three-point shooter.
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  Remember when he went to the Pacers, he wasn't a good
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  three-point shooter with the Toronto Raptors.
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  As he's slowly over the last couple of years with the Pacers
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  really developed a shot and has become a better shooter in the
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  NBA. Also, a better free throw
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  shooter in the NBA, when you have guys that are multifaceted
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  when it comes to offensive style of games, you see teams like the
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  Pacers really give problems to teams like the Knicks.
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  The Knicks are dependent on guys like Karl Anthony Towns and
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  Jalen Bronson. If they're not scoring and OG
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  Anobe's having a bad shooting game or Mikhail Bridges is
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  having a bad shooting game or Josh Hart's making many, many
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  mistakes. And I know a lot of people are
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  going to blame Josh Hart. This isn't all of Josh Hart.
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  I know everybody wants to point their fingers.
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  Oh, it's Josh Hart's fault. He made so many mistakes.
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  He made a lot of mistakes. I don't think he should be
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  taking all of the the the bad credit.
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  And I mean, it's not even credit, just the bad, you know,
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  surplus of what happened in this series.
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  What happened in this series really stood right there
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  smacking your face. It was coaching.
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  Rick Carlisle is a better coach than Tom Thibodeau and anybody
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  that doesn't believe it, well just look at the transition of
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  1/2 to the other. Rick Carlisle just plays a
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  different style of offense and remember Rick Carlisle was a
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  more of a defensive sided coach. He's become more more over the
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  last couple of years as a 2 dimensional coach and he's
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  really started this high paced offense that the NBA has not
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  seen over the last couple of years.
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  The last time I've seen this high paced offense, it was the
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  OK C Thunder with Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James
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  Harden and Serge Ibaka. The the league really
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  traditionally plays 1/2 court game.
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  When you watch this team play, they play full press offense all
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  game long. Tyrese Halliburton and then you
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  have all these other guy Naismith, all these guys,
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  they're all fast guys, young guys.
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  They can go up and down the court.
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  Even their bigs, Pasco Siakam is a fast guy that can go up and
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  down a court. He's not very heavy.
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  He's not dragging a load like Karl Anthony Towns is.
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  And he's going to be able to compete with all these guys that
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  the Knicks have because look, OG and Anobi is a good he is a good
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  two or he's a good three. Whatever position he's going to
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  play, depending on the team that he's playing against, he's not a
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  fast guy. McHale Bridges is probably the
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  most athletic three or two the Knicks have.
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  But again, they're the Knicks were a complete mismatch to a
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  team that had enough to beat them.
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  Now, Tyrese Halliburton, I got to say something about Tyrese
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  Halliburton after the game. He said some derogatory things
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  about the New York Knicks. First of all, he said New York's
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  his bitch. And I, I, I understand he wants
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  to be a villain. That's what he wants to be.
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  He wants to be a bad guy. He wants Nick fans not to like
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  him. As we all know Trey Young has
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  done over the last couple of years and he's been one of those
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  guys that New York Knicks couldn't stand.
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  But when you go out there and you have your girlfriend, your
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  fiance out there on social media saying go home, New York, go
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  home and go New York, go New York home.
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  Or whatever the hell he was she was doing.
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  And that Tyrese Halliburton cracking jokes and saying that
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  the Knicks are not as good as as good as as good A-Team as
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  everybody thought they were going to be going into the
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  series, that they were the better team, that the Knicks are
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  so overrated. He he said a lot of interesting
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  things when he sat with Charles and he sat with Kenny and he sat
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  with Shaquille O'Neal and Ernie Johnson.
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  It was so disrespectful because he didn't say congratulations to
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  a great season from the New York Knicks.
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  Jalen Brunson went out there, he congratulate Indiana.
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  You saw all the Knicks, Josh Hart coming out and saying that
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  they were the better team, they deserved to win.
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  All the Knicks pretty much went out there and said what they
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  they felt. But Tyrese Halper and so unjust,
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  just a piece of garbage that he went out there and did whatever
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  he could to throw the Knicks under the bus as a professional
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  organization. And he really, really before the
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  series even came, came up or even came to that point that
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  they were playing the New York Knicks.
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  He said that the New York Knicks fans were crap.
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  And he said Madison Square Gardens, one of the most
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  overrated players, are places to play in all of the NBA.
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  Meanwhile, you have there was a lot of players over the last
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  couple of years, Dirk Nowinski, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant,
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  LeBron James, all these guys, Tim Duncan, all these superstar
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  players that have come out and said that Madison Square Garden
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  is one of the best places to play in all of sports.
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  You have this guy who, by the way, is one of the most
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  overrated superstars in the NBAI don't care what anybody says,
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  you're going to look at his numbers.
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  You want to say that in game four, I think it was where he
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  put up those ridiculous triple double numbers and everybody
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  says, who have we ever seen a player have no fouls and put up
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  those kind of numbers? 3011 and whatever it was, 15,
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  whatever the numbers were, he had sensational numbers.
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  The problem with Tyrese Halpern is not his game, it's the way he
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  perceives his game to be. He is not Jalen Bronson, he's
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  not Shy Alexander. He's not as consistent as these
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  players are offensively. He's either hot or he's not.
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  What did he score in that final game against the Knicks in game
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  six? What was it, 1820 points?
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  I don't know the numbers right in front of me, but it was
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  somewhere around those numbers. He didn't have one of his great
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  games. He didn't put up the ridiculous
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  numbers. As a matter of fact, he scored
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  eight points going into the fourth quarter.
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  He scored 10 points with the last 8 minutes of the game
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  against the New York Knicks. He didn't have one of those
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  fabulous games and I'm not surprised that Siakam won it
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  because he was the better two way player in this series.
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  But you you go back and you wonder what Rick Carlisle has
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  said over the last couple of weeks with the New York Knicks
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  and saying that the Knicks are flawed.
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  They are flawed. The New York Knicks are a
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  floored offensive team. They depend too much on
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  isolation basketball with Jaylen Bronson and Carl Anthony Towns.
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  If these guys are not playing at the top of game.
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  And by the way, I got to give a shout out to the Pacers defense
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  on Jaylen Bronson in game six. They shut down Jaylen Bronson.
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  They played so very well. They had two guys defend him
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  throughout the game. They put a lot of pressure on
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  him and that put Jaylen Bronson in a in that position where he
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  was forcing up shots and giving the ball away because there was
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  no pick and roll at the top of the key.
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  Because they were two, they were they were playing the trap.
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  They were two one-dimensional offensively, the New York
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  Knicks. And once Rick Carlisle figured
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  out how they were going to run their offense and how they were
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  going to run their offense to Jalen Brunson, they shut down
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  Jalen Brunson in certain specific parts of the game where
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  it put the Knicks in a position where they couldn't put the ball
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  in the Nets. Carl even says in the comments
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  section the Knicks defense was bad all games second-half of
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  game six it was bad all game. Carl and their.
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  Defense has been horrible for the last two seasons.
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  It's been bad. But that just goes what she
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  said. Errol was like Rick Carlisle saw
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  how they were going to run it and he made the adjustments in
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  game. It wasn't like they had a plan
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  going into it and OK, well, now we're going to kind of see how
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  they are running things. I think and and you hit the nail
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  on the head. It's the way that Rick Carlisle
• 20:24
  and and you said in the coaching aspect of it is where he made
• 20:28
  the adjustment, seeing how they're going to do it.
• 20:30
  And you just gave credit to the defenses because they made the
• 20:33
  adjustments of what they're going to do.
• 20:35
  I mean, he he went eight for 18. He still scored, you know, what
• 20:38
  was 21 points Brunson or whatever.
• 20:41
  But you know, between those three guys, those eighteen shots
• 20:44
  for Brunson, it was 19 for Cat and 18 for OG.
• 20:48
  And but he knew it's like, OK, I'm going to change our
• 20:51
  defensive schematic to be able to take that away.
• 20:54
  And, and and you're right, Rick Carlisle made the adjustments in
• 20:59
  the game. He's the better coach.
• 21:01
  Yeah, that Tibbs didn't do. Yeah, you're right.
• 21:03
  And Tom Thibodeau, and by the way, Tom Thibodeau should not
• 21:05
  have a job after this series. I don't care what anybody says.
• 21:09
  And a lot of Nick fans say well, have said well, he deserves a
• 21:12
  second chance because he took them to the Eastern Conference
• 21:14
  Finals. I think this is the furthest Tom
• 21:17
  Thibodeau is going to take the New York Knicks.
• 21:19
  I don't see him taking him any further than this.
• 21:21
  He took the Bulls as far as the Eastern Conference Finals.
• 21:24
  I just don't believe this team has enough to get over the hump.
• 21:29
  They need more bench help. And I just think Carl Anthony
• 21:32
  Towns isn't that secondary offensive player that's going to
• 21:35
  give you 2 dimensional basketball.
• 21:36
  Giannis would be a perfect fit. I know a lot of people and there
• 21:39
  are stories coming out that Giannis wants to come to a big
• 21:42
  market. As a matter of fact, the New
• 21:44
  York Knicks will be probably probably 1 of the top three
• 21:47
  favorites of landing him in the offseason.
• 21:49
  But the Knicks are going to have to give up a significant amount,
• 21:52
  maybe even Josh Hart or even Mikkel Bridges in a tray with
• 21:55
  Karl Anthony Towns and maybe McBride and maybe a draft pick
• 21:58
  to get somebody like of that magnitude.
• 22:00
  But again, I think they need more than just Giannis.
• 22:03
  I think they're going to need at least another bench help or
• 22:06
  another two bench help off the bench to give him enough
• 22:10
  consistency because it's been a problem.
• 22:13
  And Tom Tippet, I don't know if he's the guy because, because he
• 22:16
  really just ran nine guys throughout this series.
• 22:18
  Finally, the last three games of the series, he kind of
• 22:21
  transitioned and he started playing different guys and, and,
• 22:24
  and added to the rotation. It was a big problem throughout
• 22:28
  this series. And I just he's not the guy
• 22:30
  they're going to have to figure out is, is he the guy that's
• 22:33
  going to take him to the promised land or he has he taken
• 22:36
  us as far as he can? And maybe you move elsewhere,
• 22:40
  maybe you look at somebody else. So that went to the Cavaliers,
• 22:43
  where their defense has been as bad over the last couple of
• 22:47
  years without him. Or do they bring in a guy that,
• 22:50
  like Malone, that's been successful and won a
• 22:52
  championship with the Nuggets or somebody else?
• 22:55
  There are guys out there that are going to be available that
• 22:58
  are probably better fit for this team.
• 23:01
  And by the way, this rotation and the way he runs his defense,
• 23:04
  it doesn't work. And it's not going to work
• 23:06
  against a speedy young Pacer team.
• 23:09
  And this Pacer team is going to be here for a long, long time.
• 23:12
  They don't even have another superstar they're going to have
• 23:15
  money to to spend if they could go after Giannis, even though
• 23:18
  after what Mr. Halliburton did to him and and what was it?
• 23:22
  The first round the. First round, I don't know if
• 23:25
  he's going to wave his no trade clause to go over there, but
• 23:29
  Indiana's going to have the money to go after somebody like
• 23:31
  Giannis, maybe somebody else, maybe another superstar that
• 23:34
  becomes available. But Giannis is the big name.
• 23:37
  That's going to be the guy that's everybody everybody's
• 23:39
  going to be gunning for. But there are stories coming out
• 23:42
  and I saw I saw two writers beat writers very well respected in
• 23:46
  the game that said that the Knicks will definitely be one of
• 23:49
  the top three locations that Giannis will like to play for.
• 23:54
  Going back to what I was saying about the defense too, with
• 23:56
  that, that Carl was saying that Pacers had probably 60 to 65% of
• 24:00
  their threes wide open, like there wasn't even a defender
• 24:03
  like even 5 feet from them. And that's I think the biggest
• 24:05
  issue in that game, in addition to the transition defense that
• 24:07
  we were talking about, like they're not getting back on
• 24:09
  defense. And that benefits for the Pacers
• 24:11
  and what they like to do. And then on the on the other
• 24:13
  end, Jalen Bronson, I think what really hindered him was that.
• 24:17
  Kind of half press. It wasn't, it wasn't a full
• 24:19
  court press all the time. It was kind of 1/2 press and he
• 24:21
  got bracketed, he got double team.
• 24:23
  And I do think Rick Carlisle definitely deserves a lot of
• 24:25
  credit for that because he really made him uncomfortable in
• 24:28
  certain aspects. And Jalen Brunson when he's not
• 24:30
  spacing the floor. The Knicks offense isn't going
• 24:32
  to get anywhere. And OG and Mitchell Robinson
• 24:35
  were the only two starters that play well.
• 24:37
  I agree with you on Towns. Even though his stats look sexy
• 24:39
  on paper, they're not. He was very inefficient
• 24:42
  throughout that game. Some of his decision making with
• 24:44
  the freeze was if he is defense was horrible all game too and
• 24:47
  Josh Hart disappeared. He made a lot of mistakes.
• 24:50
  Josh Hart made a tremendous amount of mistakes.
• 24:53
  I'm not willing to go after Mikhail Bridges.
• 24:56
  Mikhail Bridges chased Halliburton around around
• 24:59
  screen, didn't come off the court.
• 25:01
  I'm talking more on offense, not defense.
• 25:03
  Well, The thing is, how are you supposed to be an offensive
• 25:06
  threat when your job is to chase around?
• 25:09
  Let's face it, he's talking the way that he's playing.
• 25:12
  He's a top ten player in the world right now.
• 25:14
  I disagree. I disagree.
• 25:16
  I don't and I think you have to put him above Jalen right now
• 25:20
  because he just beat him twice. So I would put Jalen right
• 25:24
  behind Halliburton, probably at 9:00 and 10:00.
• 25:27
  Albert disappeared in certain games in this series.
• 25:30
  Well, the reason why he disappeared is Mikhail Bridges a
• 25:33
  pretty damn good football. Basketball.
• 25:34
  Player. Well, guess what?
• 25:35
  Bridges was basically his his shadow and in the second-half
• 25:41
  they started taking Bridges out for Shamit and Shamit didn't
• 25:44
  work. And we could talk about Tibbs
• 25:45
  rotations. But the thing that really
• 25:46
  bothered me, you know why though, so many of those threes
• 25:49
  were open? Well, every time they were on
• 25:50
  Karl Anthony Towns, that was a wide open because Karl Anthony
• 25:54
  Towns decided to go underneath every single screen and not
• 25:57
  cover the guy and not even try to fight it after getting fouls
• 26:00
  trying to fight over screens earlier in the series.
• 26:03
  Because he's slow footed and not good at important parts of the
• 26:07
  game that are necessary to run a Tom Thibodeau type of a team.
• 26:11
  Plus, he banged his knee in the second quarter.
• 26:13
  They still left him in the. Game I don't want to I don't
• 26:15
  want to F and hear about his knee.
• 26:17
  Everyone's banged up this time of the season.
• 26:19
  It was not bad enough that he couldn't walk.
• 26:21
  It wasn't that bad enough that he couldn't run.
• 26:23
  He's just making a lot of faces out there and look, he makes
• 26:25
  interesting faces. See lots of makes interesting
• 26:27
  movements. He's a free personality.
• 26:29
  We all know that about him. But on defense, he killed the
• 26:32
  Knicks and I am not willing to say that the Thibodeau scheme is
• 26:36
  bad against the Pacers because in theory, it's the right type
• 26:38
  of defense to stop the Pacers. You're not fast enough to stay
• 26:41
  with them running. You switch every single time.
• 26:44
  And if you have guys that can switch and can rotate, then you
• 26:47
  don't have to catch up to these guys running you off the court
• 26:50
  and it slows them down. Power to Rick Carlisle for
• 26:54
  making Brunson's life a living hell the entire series.
• 26:57
  Smart coach, but the other guys have to step up.
• 27:00
  They didn't on offense and that's Carl Anthony Towns
• 27:03
  department. They didn't on defense.
• 27:05
  But you're blaming this all on Carl Anthony Towns This.
• 27:08
  Is. It's not just Carl Anthony.
• 27:10
  Towns, it's not. If your anchor is not rotating
• 27:15
  and not stepping up, it's like it doesn't even matter what the
• 27:18
  other guys are doing. And a guy like Josh Hart, it
• 27:22
  seemed like he didn't know where his help was.
• 27:24
  He didn't trust the guys next to him.
• 27:26
  And when you see Hart going well, he knows where everyone's
• 27:29
  going to be on the court. He knows all those things.
• 27:31
  He. Plays.
• 27:32
  This type of mind game for other teams.
• 27:34
  I think there's a lot of players that are very selfish when they
• 27:37
  get the ball in their hands, and you can see that with the
• 27:39
  Knicks. They take the ball down, they
• 27:41
  don't pass the ball. How many passes that we saw
• 27:44
  throughout this series, the Pacers were actually moving the
• 27:47
  ball around the perimeter until they found the open guy or the
• 27:50
  alley oop. I mean, OB Topping was all over
• 27:53
  the place with the alley Oops. You didn't see that enough with
• 27:55
  Mitchell Robinson. He's so athletic.
• 27:57
  He finally got his feet under him.
• 27:59
  Why don't we see more of that? The alley oops.
• 28:01
  Why didn't we see more of that with Karl Anthony Towns?
• 28:04
  He's athletic. He's an athletic big man and
• 28:06
  he's not as athletic as Mitchell Robinson, but he's athletic and
• 28:09
  OB, OG and Anobi. OG and Anobi is a great dunker.
• 28:13
  Why don't we see more of OG and Anobi?
• 28:15
  He was hot and cold throughout this series.
• 28:17
  He wasn't really in it offensively.
• 28:19
  He played fantastic defense in some parts of the game and then
• 28:23
  disappeared when he was on the court.
• 28:25
  This guy. He had a tough assignment, man.
• 28:27
  But I that's, that's an excuse. You, you keep making these
• 28:30
  excuses. No, it's tough or not.
• 28:32
  You got to go out there and play the game.
• 28:34
  Take. Those two guys, the reason why
• 28:36
  they got those two guys is they're two of the best 3 and D
• 28:39
  wings in all of the NBA because of their size and length and
• 28:43
  Bridges ability to stay with a little bit faster.
• 28:45
  Have you ever heard defense wins championships?
• 28:48
  Well look if they they just didn't have like they had to put
• 28:51
  OG on Siakam because they don't have a four because Towns
• 28:54
  couldn't do it when Robinson was out there and then they played
• 28:57
  the smaller lineup where OG had to guard the four.
• 29:00
  And OG is A3 or A2 and he can do it but not against every four
• 29:04
  and Siakam is a great 4. Kawhi Leonard could do it.
• 29:08
  We we try to compare OG and Anobi, that's fine.
• 29:12
  I'm just saying when Kawhi was the same age as OG and Anobi, he
• 29:16
  was defending a lot of fours, the best fours in the league.
• 29:19
  And everybody wants to compare OG Anobi to Kawhi Leonard.
• 29:22
  Well, I'm just saying that's what people want to do.
• 29:26
  So if you're going to go out there and say, well, OG's the
• 29:28
  new Kawhi Leonard, well, he's going to have to go out there
• 29:31
  and produce. Siaka's a good player, but he's
• 29:33
  not Tim Duncan. He's not those kind of guys.
• 29:37
  And I've seen Kawhi Leonard, when he left the Spurs, at some
• 29:40
  points he was defending Tim Duncan.
• 29:42
  At some points he was defending some of the best athletic fours
• 29:45
  in the league. I've seen him guard Giannis and
• 29:48
  Joel Embiid at some certain points.
• 29:51
  So that's a that's an excuse. OG and a newbie.
• 29:54
  Nobody needs to show up in the big games and play shut down
• 29:58
  defense. No matter who it is.
• 29:59
  Whoever's he face is, he's facing in front of him.
• 30:02
  It's an excuse. And I'm going to tell you this
• 30:04
  right now. Nick fans got to stop making
• 30:06
  excuses for this team. This is not Josh Hart's fault.
• 30:09
  I know a lot of Nick fans on social media wants to say, well,
• 30:12
  Josh takes responsibility. It's Josh's fault, it's
• 30:15
  everybody's fault. And Jalen Brunson's got to stop
• 30:18
  up doing certain things at the end of the game in the fourth
• 30:21
  quarter. When you're trying to play catch
• 30:23
  up, why are you isolating yourself over and over and over
• 30:26
  again? Use your teammates, use McHale
• 30:29
  Bridges, use OG on an OB, Karl Anthony Towles or Mitchell
• 30:32
  Robinson. And by the way, Jalen Bronson
• 30:35
  and Karl Anthony Towns cannot play on the same court together
• 30:38
  at the same time. If that can't work, you have to
• 30:41
  trade one of them. And it's not going to be Jalen
• 30:43
  Bronson. It's going to be Karl Anthony
• 30:45
  Towns because he's he's getting paid 52 1/2, $1,000,000 and he's
• 30:49
  getting overpaid because he's not a winner.
• 30:52
  He's never going to be a winner. Yet Nick fans got to understand
• 30:55
  that. And for the fact that Jalen
• 30:57
  Bronson came out and said that this roster can win a
• 31:00
  championship, he's lying to you because there were stories
• 31:02
  coming out that a lot of these players did not get along with
• 31:06
  Karl Anthony Towns. Yeah, I was going to ask you,
• 31:08
  Jabba, did you see that came out, you know, almost
• 31:10
  immediately, like it was like a can story just waiting for it to
• 31:15
  happen in the Athletic. And then they just added a
• 31:17
  paragraph on like, and then the Knicks lost in game six.
• 31:20
  Like they were ready to get through the hit piece on Towns.
• 31:23
  You see any of that? Yeah, I, I, I read and I mean,
• 31:27
  I've seen scuttlebutt about it, obviously, you know, just on
• 31:31
  social and then obviously articles.
• 31:34
  But I, I think it's, it's 100% right.
• 31:37
  Because it, there, there was kind of AI don't know if it was
• 31:41
  a battle, like who's the, the BMOC, the big man on campus, you
• 31:46
  know what I'm saying? You always have those type of
• 31:47
  personalities where sometimes it can work together, sometimes it
• 31:51
  doesn't. And I just think they're 2
• 31:54
  completely different stars in their capacity where sometimes
• 31:59
  those, they just don't work, you know, and that's, we kind of
• 32:02
  seen it. And I, I think that's a huge
• 32:05
  part of it too. And especially, you know, if, if
• 32:08
  they're making a point to write an article about it, there's
• 32:11
  obviously you hear it once you're like, eh, then you hear
• 32:14
  it a couple times and then it keeps going.
• 32:17
  Then you're like, well, there must be some type of truth to
• 32:19
  it. Obviously we're not in the
• 32:20
  locker room, we don't see it, but you can kind of see it out
• 32:24
  on the court. Like obviously they're both
• 32:25
  still getting their shots. They're still, you know, doing
• 32:28
  it that they they have done in their career.
• 32:31
  But I just think with what he does in in the type of team that
• 32:36
  it is it especially if the articles that were already
• 32:38
  created and now they're continuing to get.
• 32:41
  Legs, Jabba. We've seen this before.
• 32:43
  Yeah, no, I you. Played.
• 32:44
  You played with two players that were best friends and hated each
• 32:48
  other after one got traded over there, and that's Alex Rodriguez
• 32:51
  and Derek Jeter. And there's no excuses because
• 32:54
  they had to figure out how to play together, obviously.
• 32:56
  It wasn't. It wasn't as bad as everybody
• 32:59
  said it was. I'm sure it wasn't.
• 33:01
  I'm sure. It wasn't, it wasn't.
• 33:02
  But when you, that's what happens when you get to like
• 33:06
  the. Pinnacle.
• 33:08
  And you have all of these alphas and it's like, OK, I was a stud,
• 33:12
  now I'm a stud, now I'm a stud, now I'm a stud and you get all
• 33:15
  of them. It was at one point, and I think
• 33:19
  when Carrie Wood came over in 2010, I think over half of our
• 33:25
  starting roster was first round draft picks.
• 33:28
  So you got all these guys that have had created a great legacy
• 33:33
  for themselves, whether individually, whether team, all
• 33:37
  the other stuff and you get all of them.
• 33:39
  It's it's kind of it becomes a pissing contest a little bit.
• 33:42
  You know, where it's like you're going like, OK, well, if he did
• 33:46
  this, I can do this. And if they did this, I can do
• 33:49
  this. And we've we've seen it on every
• 33:52
  platform from basketball to football and whatever.
• 33:55
  And it's like the ones that become very, very successful and
• 33:59
  create legacies is they figure out a way.
• 34:01
  It's like I may not invite you to my son's birthday party, but
• 34:05
  I damn sure wants you next to me on the field or on the court.
• 34:08
  Like, you want to be cool with the guys, right?
• 34:10
  100%. That's the thing.
• 34:12
  Like you could, that's not true. I don't want the Roommates
• 34:16
  podcast about when they had Julius Randle on and they seemed
• 34:20
  like they were pretty chilled with each other.
• 34:22
  Like it was it was like a thing where they didn't have any
• 34:24
  animosity. Maybe they didn't play well all
• 34:26
  that well together, but they had the chemistry.
• 34:29
  There's no chemistry with Karl Anthony Towns.
• 34:31
  You could see it. It doesn't work.
• 34:35
  Kyrie Irving, Kyrie Irving, I have the trade.
• 34:38
  Let's hear it. You want to hear it?
• 34:39
  So I thought about this a lot. We talked about some of this the
• 34:42
  other day, but yet you're trading towns and you have to
• 34:47
  trade OG Ananobi with towns. It's going to be a lot of money.
• 34:51
  So you have to take back some shit contracts.
• 34:53
  But I think the two of them together, maybe you throw in a
• 34:55
  pick and you get Giannis, Antenna, Kupo and the two
• 34:59
  shittiest contracts on the Bucks, Kuzma and Pat Connor.
• 35:03
  I like Kuzma and that's Kyle. Kuzma is a good player.
• 35:05
  Nobody else in the league likes Kuzma.
• 35:07
  So I don't know why he's a great rebounder, he.
• 35:09
  Has one of the worst peers. He's still a good rebounder, and
• 35:13
  you're going to need that against an athletic team like
• 35:15
  the Pacers. That's fine.
• 35:19
  Here's the problem. Here's the problem with a lot of
• 35:21
  people that watch Kyle Kuzma and they're going to not give him
• 35:24
  the credit that he deserves. Remember, he was drafted by the
• 35:27
  Nets. Remember that he was drafted by
• 35:29
  the Nets and then he moved around.
• 35:31
  Yes, he was drafted by. The Lakers.
• 35:33
  I only remember the Lakers. No, he was drafted by the Nets
• 35:36
  if I'm not mistaken. Mistaken Speedy.
• 35:37
  He was drafted by the Nets, right?
• 35:38
  It might be some draft right thing.
• 35:40
  No, it was Kyle Kuzma. He was drafted by the Nets and
• 35:42
  then check that out. I know Kyle Kuzma was definitely
• 35:46
  drafted by the Nets and then he he was a journeyman, but he went
• 35:50
  to the Lakers. He really developed his game.
• 35:52
  You're right, immediately traded to the Lakers in the legendary
• 35:55
  Timothy Mozgov Russell trade. That's right.
• 36:00
  I have a lot of, I have a lot of respect for guys like Kyle Kuzma
• 36:04
  because he hasn't played on rosters and teams that were
• 36:06
  really that good. Even that Lakers team that he
• 36:08
  played with wasn't really that good.
• 36:10
  Washington sucked everywhere he's gone.
• 36:13
  The Nets, they, he wasn't there that long.
• 36:15
  But you know what I'm saying? He's been on bad rosters.
• 36:18
  He's never played on a good roster where he he has a game
• 36:22
  where he could put his game in and play his game on that
• 36:24
  roster, I think. He explained the Bucks then like
• 36:27
  because he's on the Bucks. I'll tell you, first of all, the
• 36:29
  second, he really didn't play until the second-half of that
• 36:32
  season anyways. So we didn't really have a lot
• 36:35
  of basketball time over there with Giannis and.
• 36:37
  If the Knicks get him in a deal like that, I'd be, I'd be stoked
• 36:41
  if he was just, you know, like Kyle.
• 36:42
  Kushner was a good rebounder for his size.
• 36:44
  He really is. I think you're you're, you're
• 36:46
  underrating the type of player that.
• 36:48
  He is, I think 22 million a year for three, three years of him is
• 36:52
  a is a little steep and they're going to want to get off that
• 36:54
  contract though, but I would say half that for him would probably
• 36:57
  be about right. I will say this, I will say this
• 37:00
  for all you Knick fans, and I know a lot of Knick fans are
• 37:02
  upset about this. I I was wearing a Knicks hat and
• 37:05
  a Knicks jersey the other day, all right, yesterday and I went,
• 37:09
  I was telling Fish and I was telling speedy how many people
• 37:12
  came up to me and told, tell, told me tough loss.
• 37:16
  What do you think? And asking me questions.
• 37:18
  I actually was giving out show cards where some of these kids
• 37:21
  thought I was like a celebrity or something like that.
• 37:23
  Oh my God, Oh, are you going to do?
• 37:26
  Who are you going to? Are you going to?
• 37:28
  I was like, what the the hell is going on with you?
• 37:30
  You have a heart attack or but these kids don't understand that
• 37:34
  they're just Jalen Brunson fans and and they're call Anthony
• 37:37
  Towns fans. And they thought, hey, the
• 37:39
  Knicks choked and this and that the Knicks didn't choke.
• 37:42
  They just, they didn't play their game and you lost you.
• 37:45
  They lost that series in game #1 letting this team come back up
• 37:50
  14 with two minutes left. That was the choke that really
• 37:54
  cost them this series. If they won that game, they
• 37:57
  would have went up to 2. They would have went back home
• 38:00
  and it would have been two Tuesday would have went back
• 38:02
  home, won that game. They would have been up 32 lost
• 38:05
  in in Indiana and then went home and possibly won in Game 7 like
• 38:08
  I predicted. But losing that first game cost
• 38:11
  the Knicks the series. And that was mistakes by Josh
• 38:14
  Hart. That was mistakes by Carl
• 38:16
  Anthony Towns not hitting free throws and OG and no, we missing
• 38:19
  free throws. All these guys couldn't hit a
• 38:21
  free throw if they're like the life depended on it in game
• 38:24
  number six there. How many did call Anthony Towns
• 38:28
  meant he was horrible You're you're you're a career 92% in
• 38:33
  the playoffs free throw shooter and you missed 4 free throws in
• 38:38
  an important Game 6 and yeah but his.
• 38:40
  Knee was hurting. Here's another thing I want to
• 38:44
  give a shout out to our our, our boy over here, and he's been
• 38:48
  speaking a lot. Carl over here saying that Carl
• 38:50
  Anthony Towns was getting fouled a lot in his game and throughout
• 38:53
  this series. I've got news for you guys, the
• 38:55
  refs were not on the Knicks side in the series and I'm not
• 38:58
  blaming the refs. This isn't this isn't the refs
• 39:01
  you're. Not the beef.
• 39:02
  I'm not. It's not the referees.
• 39:04
  OK, here's the facts. Here's the facts.
• 39:07
  It didn't go the Knicks way. It doesn't matter if it was in
• 39:09
  Indiana or if it was in Madison Square Garden.
• 39:12
  A lot of the calls and everybody's going to say, well,
• 39:14
  the Knicks had more free throws than the Pacers, but the Pacers
• 39:18
  got the important free throw chances at the end of games that
• 39:22
  kept them in the game when they were down or up a significant
• 39:25
  thinking amount of points. So it was a big problem.
• 39:28
  And I think again, the NBA or the LJA need to figure out how.
• 39:33
  I think there should be another referee on the court.
• 39:36
  It shouldn't be 3. I think there should be 5
• 39:39
  referees on the court seeing everything go on.
• 39:41
  And you should be able be able to challenge at least three
• 39:45
  times in a game three times. Not if you get one call, you
• 39:48
  should be able to challenge three times because you saw in
• 39:50
  this series, after you use your your two challenges early in the
• 39:54
  game, you don't get one in the on the 4th.
• 39:56
  And even if you see it go off another team or another foot or
• 40:00
  another, you know, finger, you can't get get a chance to call.
• 40:04
  And the referees, they don't really call a time out to look
• 40:07
  at every single call at the end of the game, which could cost
• 40:09
  the team a chance to get the ball back and tie the game.
• 40:12
  It was a big problem in this series.
• 40:14
  There are a lot of mistakes, but Rick Carlisle is the better
• 40:17
  coach. That is why the younger, faster
• 40:21
  and more athletic Pacers team beat a better Knick team.
• 40:24
  The Knicks were. More talented, I believe, when
• 40:28
  it comes to 1:00 to 5:00. But the Pacers, what they did
• 40:31
  against the Knicks is they shut down the offense of Jalen
• 40:35
  Bronson and made the other guys try to beat them and the other
• 40:37
  guys couldn't do it and they got tired.
• 40:39
  If you saw in game five and Game 6, the Knicks were much more
• 40:43
  tired and everybody's going to say, well, the Knicks won by 16
• 40:46
  or 15 in game #5 The Pacers were not working really hard in the
• 40:51
  fourth quarter. They let the Knicks run away
• 40:53
  because they wanted to win it in Indiana and the Knicks had a
• 40:56
  chance to shut everybody up. I do.
• 40:58
  I. Kicked their ass in game five.
• 41:00
  They were winning by double. Dude, the Pacers look like they
• 41:03
  stepped away in the fourth quarter and let the Knicks hit
• 41:06
  shots at the shots they had open shots.
• 41:08
  In Square Garden that tyree tyree.
• 41:11
  This makes my pecker hard. Is got to those guys because I
• 41:15
  think those guys can be shook and I don't really hang on.
• 41:17
  We're going to talk about them going into the next round in the
• 41:20
  next segment in a second. But before we get off that, I
• 41:23
  wanted to to tell you, you know why I think they should move OG,
• 41:26
  because I don't think they should move Mikhail.
• 41:28
  It's really one of those two guys that would have to be
• 41:31
  included in a deal. And Giannis, look, the Spurs and
• 41:34
  the Rockets have a lot more to offer the Bucks than the Knicks
• 41:38
  do. But the Knicks might have the
• 41:40
  advantages. Giannis might want to go to a
• 41:42
  place where there's Greek people.
• 41:44
  I don't know if there are Greek towns in San Antonio and
• 41:47
  Houston. I know there are lots of Greek
• 41:48
  people in New York. I know I was driving by a.
• 41:51
  Greek, his brother played in New York, his brother played in New
• 41:54
  York, That's one. And #2 his brother has a condo
• 41:58
  still here in New York, so it's not.
• 42:00
  Anything that pushes it towards it, I'd love it.
• 42:02
  So here's the reason why you use OG instead.
• 42:05
  You use OG instead because Mikhail Bridges plays every
• 42:08
  single game and OG is an injury risk like you wouldn't believe.
• 42:11
  And you have to get rid of the injury risk if they're going to
• 42:14
  be around the same price because Mikhail's going to get an
• 42:16
  extension around the same price. Now if they don't bite on that
• 42:19
  and Giannis goes somewhere where they can get bigger return for
• 42:22
  Milwaukee. I can't believe, you know, we
• 42:26
  got a new intern. Zach has been reading my mind.
• 42:28
  That's the second time Kevin Durant for catch straight up.
• 42:32
  Too much, actually, too much. I don't think so, because here's
• 42:36
  the deal. Durant only has one year left.
• 42:38
  After that, he's. 38 years old or 37 years old?
• 42:41
  Listen, listen, it's for one year.
• 42:44
  It's for one year, but you get off of a contract that he, Towns
• 42:47
  is going to be making. He has four years left, 3 + a
• 42:50
  player option that last year is 65,000,000.
• 42:53
  If you're paying Towns in four years with the way he is now
• 42:56
  defensively, 65,000,000, that is danger zone Kenny Loggins type
• 43:01
  shit. Errol, you've got to get off of
• 43:03
  that. Stop bringing Kenny involved
• 43:04
  with this. Into the danger zone.
• 43:07
  I love Kenny Loggins, all his music.
• 43:10
  I listen to every single one of his tracks.
• 43:12
  I'm a big Kenny Loggins fan. I I grew up listening to Kenny
• 43:16
  when I was a kid. He's one of my favorite artists
• 43:19
  in the in the early 90s. So I listen to every single
• 43:22
  Kenny Loggins. So I love.
• 43:23
  Has anybody seen Over the Top with Sylvester Stallone's arm
• 43:28
  wrestling movie? Yes, that's a fantastic.
• 43:30
  He's got two hit songs from that movie.
• 43:33
  I love that movie by the way. A Top Gun?
• 43:35
  Come on, who doesn't like Top Gun?
• 43:37
  Dirty. What was it, a Footloose?
• 43:39
  Footloose too. I love all the 80s and 90s
• 43:42
  movies. Kenny Loggins was big in the 80s
• 43:45
  and 90s. I did that musical in in theater
• 43:49
  in my senior year of high school.
• 43:51
  Yeah. I love you, who would you play?
• 43:53
  I was actually the dance coordinator for the.
• 43:55
  Minute oh stop it. I love it.
• 44:00
  I I definitely have to see Jabba get down one of these days.
• 44:03
  Definitely. It was, it was, it was
• 44:04
  fantastic. Other than it was, it was.
• 44:07
  The funny story, though. It was still on Broadway.
• 44:09
  Pulled it out of my ass. We had to call New York to get
• 44:13
  actually the rights to actually perform it.
• 44:15
  Wow. Because it was still, it was
• 44:16
  still on Broadway when they were doing it.
• 44:19
  There's one last thing I want to bring up, and I wanted to ask
• 44:21
  Speedy, this one. Speedy Does Halliburton exceed
• 44:26
  the hatred of Trey Young now? No, yeah.
• 44:29
  Not yet. Not yet.
• 44:30
  Not to me it does not. Yet I think it's.
• 44:32
  Two years. Two years now, yeah.
• 44:34
  Not yet. Trey Young.
• 44:35
  He did some interesting things after that series against the
• 44:39
  Hawks, giving the Nick fans the middle finger.
• 44:41
  I mean, he walked out well. Trey Young is a piece of
• 44:44
  garbage. I'm not saying that he's, you
• 44:46
  know, we're, we're relieving all of his sins or anything.
• 44:49
  I mean. Not.
• 44:50
  A Halliburton? What kind of a douche?
• 44:53
  Let's face it. We drove the Atlanta Hawks down
• 44:55
  to mediocrity now. Don't be surprised if Trey Young
• 44:58
  gets traded to Indiana because Trey Young could be available in
• 45:02
  the offseason. I can't believe how much I would
• 45:04
  hate Indiana if Trey Young. And I, I could see that
• 45:07
  happening. First of all, Trey Young and
• 45:09
  Indiana would be a perfect fit. He he gives you that 3 point
• 45:13
  that you know specialist that they're going.
• 45:15
  Plays no defense though. I don't.
• 45:16
  Know, but they're everybody else plays defense so and Trey Young,
• 45:20
  I mean you probably put Naismith and and maybe somebody else in
• 45:23
  that trade you get Trey young over there to play with a
• 45:26
  Halpern. That would be a a really tough
• 45:28
  offense to beat. And could you imagine those two
• 45:31
  guys in the back court? Oh my God, those big mouths
• 45:34
  yelling at the Madison, Madison Square Garden fans all over the
• 45:37
  country, all all over the the stadium, 15,000 people watching
• 45:42
  that game and just, they're absolutely giving it, you know,
• 45:45
  giving them all the business. But Speaking of the business,
• 45:48
  the Pacers will take on the Thunder in this year's NBA
• 45:52
  Finals. A battle of two teams that have
• 45:55
  never won a championship. That means one of them is going
• 45:57
  to win. Obviously.
• 45:59
  It is the first matchup of a first time champions we have
• 46:05
  seen since the Heat in The Mavericks matchup in 2006.
• 46:08
  The Thunder are the 4th youngest team in NBA history to reach an
• 46:12
  NBA Finals, with an average age of 25.33 years of age.
• 46:18
  Shy Gilchrist Alexander has 10 games of over 30 points, 5
• 46:23
  assists during the playoffs, tied second most in NBA history.
• 46:27
  The Pacers have scored the most transition points per possession
• 46:32
  in NBA play in the NBA Playoffs at 8.5 and have also allowed at
• 46:37
  least at 0.96. The Pacers have seven different
• 46:42
  players averaging 10 points per game or more, and three of those
• 46:47
  players are also averaging 3 assists per game.
• 46:50
  This is the first time in the NBA luxury tax era that both
• 46:55
  teams in the NBA Finals were under the luxury cap threshold.
• 47:00
  Well, ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be a series of Shy
• 47:04
  Alexander. You're going to get a chance to
• 47:06
  see one of the best offensive players, one of the prolific
• 47:09
  offensive players we've seen in a very, very long time, go face
• 47:13
  to face with one of the biggest mouths in right now, the NBA.
• 47:17
  And Mr. you know, Hal Burton, who I can't stand, what makes
• 47:21
  this series so fun to watch is Shia Alexander doesn't really
• 47:24
  speak. He doesn't really say much.
• 47:26
  He goes out there and lets his game do the talking.
• 47:29
  Hal Burton lets his mouth do the talking.
• 47:31
  And sometimes it's it his game actually works with, you know,
• 47:35
  with his mouth. The problem right now in this
• 47:38
  series is pretty simple. The OKC Thunder has better
• 47:42
  secondary offense than the Pacers do.
• 47:45
  This is a young team. This is a team that runs and
• 47:47
  guns just like they do. This is a team that has a place
• 47:51
  two-dimensional basketball just like the Pacers do.
• 47:54
  But their best player in Shy Alexander is one of their best
• 47:57
  defenders. And if he's sticking Hal Burton
• 48:00
  or Naismith or any one of these guys at the perimeter, he's
• 48:04
  going to be able to shut these guys down.
• 48:06
  The Knicks didn't have that. They really didn't.
• 48:08
  Even though you had Mikhail Bridges and OJ and Obi, these
• 48:11
  are the guys that don't rotate too shy.
• 48:13
  Alexander plays one-on-one defense.
• 48:15
  If he's if he's taking Halperton the whole game, that's who he's
• 48:18
  taking the whole game there. You're not going to see him, you
• 48:21
  know, change up and and play like Tom Thibodeau plays.
• 48:25
  This is a different kind of team.
• 48:27
  And OK, C is very fast. They pass the ball, they share
• 48:30
  the ball, they all can shoot. And when Williams is playing at
• 48:34
  the top of his game, they're almost impossible to beat.
• 48:37
  And they're the hardest team to beat in OK C they're Oklahoma is
• 48:42
  one of the hardest places to play in the NBII think they've
• 48:45
  lost in two or three years. I think it was like 15 games at.
• 48:49
  All they only lost six games in the regular season so far.
• 48:52
  And I'm talking about in the last three years.
• 48:54
  Right. And last year, last year, I
• 48:55
  think they only lost 10 in the regular season all year, and
• 48:57
  then they've only lost once in the playoffs.
• 48:59
  That was game one against the Nuggets.
• 49:00
  This is a team that has you have a very it's very hard to beat
• 49:06
  them in OK C So I shy Alexander is a great player.
• 49:11
  He's going to go out there and he's going to put up 30 points
• 49:13
  every single game. It's going to be hard to stop
• 49:16
  him like Jaylen you did with Jaylen Bronson because what Shy
• 49:20
  Alexander does that Jaylen Bronson doesn't do is he can
• 49:24
  play every style of game. Now he'll he'll go through the
• 49:28
  pick or he'll go right through you.
• 49:30
  Jaylen Bronson. Shy Alexander's a lot bigger and
• 49:32
  a lot stronger than Jaylen Bronson, Jolene Brunson Small,
• 49:36
  he's 62. Hal Burton's like 6665.
• 49:40
  Shia Alexander's like 6-6. So you're not going to be able
• 49:43
  to push this guy around. He can run through you.
• 49:45
  He's very strong. His upper body strength is
• 49:48
  unbelievable. He's one of the fastest guys in
• 49:50
  the NBA to the basket. When he gets a lane, he's very
• 49:54
  hard to defend and they're going to have problems throughout this
• 49:57
  series stopping him. But the secondary scoring, like
• 49:59
  I said, they're just so fun to watch.
• 50:02
  I, I'll say this, I was not sure about about this team, but
• 50:06
  adding Hornstein and Hornstein becoming fully healthy in the
• 50:10
  second-half of the season. This is a completely different
• 50:12
  team. When Hornstein is on the court,
• 50:15
  he's a great defender, he's a great rebounder, and he's the
• 50:17
  enforcer on that court. He doesn't let anybody push Shy
• 50:20
  Alexander around. And he's going to go out there
• 50:22
  and he's going to make sure that if Halliburton pushes him
• 50:25
  around, he's going to be pushing Halliburton around.
• 50:27
  So I, I think it's this is a great match up there.
• 50:30
  Two of the the more younger teams in the NBAI think, I think
• 50:35
  obviously it's a mismatch because I think OK C.
• 50:38
  If they play at the top of their game and the Pacers can't get in
• 50:41
  Shy Alexander's head early in this series.
• 50:44
  It's going to be a long series for the Pacers, but this is
• 50:46
  going to be a fun series. As much as everybody thinks this
• 50:49
  is going to be an absolute blowout, I do not believe this
• 50:51
  is going to be a blowout. This is going to go 5 or 6
• 50:54
  games. It will and I think they'll be
• 50:57
  some of these games will be a lot closer than you think.
• 50:59
  But if OK C goes up to, which I think they could because they're
• 51:04
  they have the home field advantage, I don't know if the
• 51:06
  Pacers are going to be able to play catch up against them like
• 51:09
  they did against the Knicks. It's interesting with
• 51:11
  Hartenstein the effect that he's had to like defensively.
• 51:13
  They stay in home defender and Carl was asking in the chat too
• 51:16
  if the Knicks missed him in that series.
• 51:17
  I may be doing an extent, but again, I think I don't think one
• 51:20
  player would have changed the Knicks woes in game for six, but
• 51:22
  nevertheless. Like, you see what necessarily,
• 51:24
  if Hornstein was there and he actually played, I think he's a
• 51:27
  better piece than Carl Anthony Town.
• 51:29
  Sure. Defensively, it definitely is.
• 51:31
  I agree with you, Errol, on that and going speedy.
• 51:33
  Yeah, I was going to say, I was going to say they've gotten the
• 51:36
  version of the better version of Hartenstein from last year, too.
• 51:39
  And he's also the veteran leader that this team, very young team
• 51:41
  needed. You talk about the fourth
• 51:42
  youngest team to be in the NBA Finals.
• 51:44
  Hartenstein was with the Clippers for a little while and
• 51:46
  then he obviously went to the Knicks, was traded to the
• 51:48
  Knicks. So he has a lot of teams that
• 51:49
  have gone on at least to win playoff series, not to go to the
• 51:52
  NBA Finals, but have done well enough in that.
• 51:54
  And that's what they needed. This, the next step they needed.
• 51:56
  They lost last year to an experienced veteran Dallas
• 51:59
  Mavericks team with two of the best playoff players we've seen.
• 52:02
  Obviously Luka Doncic, we talk about good ideas all the time.
• 52:04
  And then Kyrie Irving is a great playoff player too.
• 52:06
  And they needed that kind of adversity.
• 52:08
  They got that adversity overcome with the Nuggets, and I'm sure
• 52:11
  Hartenstein had a big reason for that.
• 52:13
  Now what's interesting matchup wise is the OKC defense on the
• 52:17
  wings too, because the Pacers have all this bench wing depth
• 52:20
  that can score. Pacers offense is so overrated
• 52:23
  and and again, you just mentioned the wing defenders
• 52:26
  that have they have Dort, they have Hornstein, they have Alex
• 52:29
  Caruso. This is a good all around
• 52:31
  defense. They're not going to get easy
• 52:33
  layups like they did against the Knicks.
• 52:35
  They're going to make them work for every single point They're
• 52:38
  going to get in this series and they're going to get tired.
• 52:41
  By the way, they played a longer series against the Knicks and a
• 52:44
  more, you know, gut wrenching game.
• 52:46
  The Knicks did not let them have easy, you know, easy quarters.
• 52:51
  I mean, these quarters were grueling.
• 52:53
  The Knicks pushed them around in certain parts of the game.
• 52:55
  Again, they cannot fall behind against OKC because OKC will run
• 53:00
  away with the game. They had more hundred, 110 or
• 53:04
  more point games in the playoffs than any team in basketball.
• 53:07
  They're the only team that broke 135 points in this in the
• 53:11
  playoffs. I think they're the, I think
• 53:13
  they're the first team as well to have I think six wins by 30
• 53:16
  or more points as well because obviously counting in the first
• 53:18
  round, they have the sweep too. And then they had all those ones
• 53:21
  in the Timberwolves series where they were just blowing them out.
• 53:23
  I. Didn't realize how important
• 53:24
  Caruso was. I remember him playing for the
• 53:26
  Lakers and I remember when they OKC Thunder traded for him from
• 53:31
  the Lakers. I think it was a.
• 53:32
  It was the Bulls, the. Bulls.
• 53:33
  One in between they traded Josh giddy, remember he was going
• 53:35
  through all that controversy and he was supposed to be their
• 53:38
  other point guard at the time to develop with shy and obviously
• 53:41
  at the off the field, off court issues.
• 53:43
  That one of the more underrated players, Alex Caruso, but in all
• 53:46
  of the NBA. And I think it was you fish that
• 53:48
  when they made that trade, really liked it at the time
• 53:51
  because it was like a missing piece for what they needed from
• 53:53
  the veteran off the bench perspective.
• 53:55
  And that kind of thing is something that OKC I don't think
• 53:58
  had last year either. I just want to respond to Carl's
• 54:01
  comments as well. This is not 2 mid majors.
• 54:03
  Why don't you breathe a little bit?
• 54:04
  Because. You don't breathe.
• 54:05
  This is this is not 2 mid majors.
• 54:07
  Carl the Thunder are the best team in the NBA all season long.
• 54:10
  They're a 68 win team just because they're a small marker,
• 54:13
  Carl said in the comment. This is like 2 mid majors making
• 54:15
  the NCAA basketball final. No, it's not the case.
• 54:17
  Carl The Thunder, if it was, if it was a 7.
• 54:21
  What he's saying is they're very young teams.
• 54:23
  That's what they are. And like they said that the
• 54:26
  Thunder is what, 25 or or younger their roster?
• 54:30
  And the Pacers are probably like 20-6 or younger.
• 54:32
  They're they're two of the youngest rosters in the NBA.
• 54:35
  We might see this a lot in the next couple of years.
• 54:38
  If but Carl Carl brings up a .2 for the game of basketball.
• 54:41
  Do you think that's good? Because he he brought up a point
• 54:43
  too. And, and do you think that this
• 54:47
  is going to be watched by a lot of people and.
• 54:49
  No, like not this year, not this year, I'll tell you what not.
• 54:53
  Going to get a lot. Of not this year, but if if this
• 54:55
  is a good series if this if this goes six or seven games and it's
• 55:00
  back and forth basketball high pace offense yeah, I think you
• 55:04
  if it happens next year you see them play again in the next
• 55:08
  three years in the finals. It'll be a very watched series
• 55:11
  because of what they did. But right now I I don't.
• 55:14
  Think it's going to get the casual fan to watch like we
• 55:16
  Obviously no. No, it's going to be a little.
• 55:18
  Hard New York fans are not going to watch this series because to
• 55:21
  me, and if they do, they only want to watch OKC Absolutely.
• 55:25
  Murder, Murder. Murder, murder.
• 55:27
  Yes. Did you want to see a?
• 55:28
  Massacre like like Sunny on the Causeway and Godfather one.
• 55:32
  I can't wait to see Shay. And by the way, I keep looking
• 55:36
  it up, we keep saying shy. It's S.
• 55:38
  It's pronounced like Shay. So like Shay.
• 55:41
  That's interesting, Zach was saying.
• 55:43
  Zach says real basketball fans will watch and I disagree.
• 55:48
  I disagree because. Real basketball fans like
• 55:51
  diehards, of course they're watching.
• 55:53
  That's think about the think about the type of game this is
• 55:55
  going to be. This is, I think, a terrible
• 55:57
  matchup for. My friend my friend is one of
• 56:00
  the biggest basketball fans in all out of all the sports.
• 56:03
  He's a big Yankee fan. He's a big Knick fan.
• 56:06
  After the Knicks lost against obviously the Indiana Pacers.
• 56:10
  He says I am not going to even put my eyes on that series
• 56:13
  because he he was so upset. He didn't like the way he blamed
• 56:18
  the referees. By the way, I'm not going to
• 56:19
  mention because he knows who I'm talking about.
• 56:21
  He blamed the referees a lot. It was a little bit of the
• 56:24
  referees, but it really wasn't Karl Anthony Towns was not good,
• 56:28
  even though his numbers would tell you differently.
• 56:30
  He he loves Karl Anthony Towns, by the way.
• 56:33
  Karl Anthony. Towns he's terrible on default.
• 56:35
  He's a Knick fan. What do you mean he can happen?
• 56:38
  If Hardesty hardest time was bet there on defense.
• 56:41
  They win the series better. I think they win the series.
• 56:43
  Would have been a lot closer I think.
• 56:45
  I think they win the series. I don't think they, I don't had.
• 56:47
  That collapse in game? One, they would have never lost
• 56:49
  game one, they would have definitely never lost game one.
• 56:52
  If you had him and Mitchell Robertson in at the same time
• 56:55
  during the game with OG and Anobi and Mikhail Bridges and
• 56:59
  Miles McBride, the Knicks win that game.
• 57:01
  There's no way there's. No way that Carl also says shy
• 57:04
  that prolific or he just gets to the line it's on.
• 57:05
  No, he is that prolific. Carl.
• 57:07
  Like, you know, the Timberwolves fans were chanting about the
• 57:09
  freaking free throw merchant and all that stuff, but he's
• 57:12
  electric, dribbling the ball and he's physical.
• 57:14
  He outplayed Anthony Edwards. Everybody says that Anthony
• 57:19
  Edwards is a top three player. Really, for the last three
• 57:21
  years, shy Alexander was a top five player, top six player over
• 57:25
  the last three years. He became one of the top three
• 57:28
  offensive players in the NBA this year and that's why he won
• 57:31
  the MVP. So yeah, he outplayed Anthony
• 57:34
  Edwards, who went out there before the series saying that
• 57:37
  I'm going to I'm the best player in this series and I'm going to
• 57:39
  show why I'm the best player in this series.
• 57:42
  Boy, oh boy, did he not show he was the best player in the
• 57:45
  series. And Jayla Brunson, I think he
• 57:47
  took a step back because he knows how Burton played better
• 57:50
  than in him in certain aspects of his game.
• 57:52
  And I think Jalen Brunson in the offseason need to lose a little
• 57:55
  bit of weight. He looked, I'm going to tell you
• 57:58
  this, throughout this season, he looked like he put on a little
• 58:01
  bit of weight and he looked like he got slower.
• 58:04
  He looked like he got slower later in the season.
• 58:07
  That's my. Game is in speed.
• 58:08
  You know, he has those hesitation moves.
• 58:10
  He he likes to get guys on his hip and then get the fouls.
• 58:13
  He wasn't getting the fouls in any of these post season series
• 58:17
  the way that he got him in the regular season.
• 58:19
  That's frustrating because your game was built upon doing it
• 58:22
  that way all year and now you're not getting those same calls.
• 58:25
  So I thought some of that was frustrating to him.
• 58:27
  He got a lot of foul calls called against him that maybe he
• 58:30
  didn't get earlier in the year. I don't really know what it was.
• 58:32
  He knows that he needs to be better than than he was and I
• 58:35
  expect him to come back guns a blaze in the next year.
• 58:38
  That being said, Shay Gilligan, Giljous Alexander was a point
• 58:42
  guard who shot I think 52 and change percent from the field.
• 58:46
  Most guards don't break four. I think Brunson was the next
• 58:48
  closest at like 49%. So as like a like a ball
• 58:53
  dominant point guard. The unbelievable shooting
• 58:56
  percentages from him, especially going to the line as frequent as
• 58:59
  he does get. You can call him a free throw,
• 59:02
  free throw merchant. I actually have a stat that our
• 59:04
  intern Zach gave me. You know what, you know what, I
• 59:07
  I'm going to do these kids a favor.
• 59:10
  Why don't you put, why don't you put these guys in here?
• 59:13
  I I want to hear, I want to hear quickly Jake's take and then I
• 59:17
  want to hear what Zack's take is.
• 59:19
  I mean, they've been back and forth.
• 59:21
  They're big basketball fans. Let let's hear what these guys
• 59:23
  got to say. If you want, you can come in on
• 59:26
  the audio or you could just stay.
• 59:28
  I'd like to 1st, 1st Jake, I want to hear your take quickly
• 59:31
  on this series. OKC in the Pacers.
• 59:34
  Why you think this series is going to be a very highly
• 59:37
  watched series? Yeah, sure.
• 59:42
  Yeah. I think it'll be pretty
• 59:43
  interesting for like, as me and Zach were going back, we're
• 59:46
  saying for basketball fans, I think it's going to be really
• 59:50
  respected and watch because both these teams are relatively
• 59:53
  young. They try really hard.
• 59:55
  They they, you know, they are in good basketball towns.
• 59:57
  Like I, I think one of the things that's been lost on it,
• 1:00:00
  as well as if you look at the OK C Thunders Fan Arena and they
• 1:00:04
  have all the fans in their T-shirts and they love their
• 1:00:07
  team and the passion in the stadium, similar to as you're
• 1:00:09
  talking about Errol with the Knicks, they love.
• 1:00:11
  Of their basketball team. So I think that that's.
• 1:00:14
  So do the Steelers. What does that mean?
• 1:00:17
  Sorry. So do the Steelers.
• 1:00:19
  That's back-to-back Deuce of the Day, Steelers.
• 1:00:21
  I hear, I hear you, but I mean, they they haven't especially OK,
• 1:00:25
  see they haven't been to the finals since I believe 2012.
• 1:00:27
  They KD, Russ and and Harden, they were a young team, another
• 1:00:31
  young team as well. Shay just won the MVP and you
• 1:00:35
  know, Jalen Williams, Chet Holmgren, they've they've grown
• 1:00:37
  their team with young home grown talent.
• 1:00:39
  They get to grow up with their team and all their players and
• 1:00:41
  the Pacers as well, even though Tyrese Halliburton and and
• 1:00:44
  Pascal Siakam and Miles Turner, a lot of their players are, you
• 1:00:48
  know, trades. I think that they've built a
• 1:00:50
  young, like a pretty decently well established core.
• 1:00:53
  And they love their team as well.
• 1:00:55
  You know, obviously Indiana for a long time there was the curse.
• 1:00:58
  You know, they could never really breakthrough having to
• 1:01:00
  deal with LeBron James a lot. And then Paul George leaves.
• 1:01:02
  It's actually this Finals is both teams have really been
• 1:01:07
  built. But yeah, I think this series is
• 1:01:09
  going to be a lot of fun. I think OKC is going to win and
• 1:01:12
  they probably win, will win pretty dominantly.
• 1:01:14
  But I think it will be a fun basketball match up to watch.
• 1:01:18
  All right, Zach, let's hear your take on this series.
• 1:01:22
  I think it's going to be a fun series.
• 1:01:23
  I I think it's going to be well watched with a bunch of NBA fans
• 1:01:27
  because I don't see both of these teams as being that
• 1:01:31
  one-on-one type of teams. Like they move the ball around,
• 1:01:33
  they drive and kick. They move the ball around, They
• 1:01:36
  pass a lot. It's not like you're watching
• 1:01:38
  the Lakers with Luka Doncic and everyone else just standing out
• 1:01:41
  in the corner or or out on the perimeter.
• 1:01:43
  You have people driving the ball, you shake your side gender
• 1:01:46
  driving the ball looking to pass if he doesn't score, if he
• 1:01:49
  doesn't get fouled, obviously. And then on the opposite end you
• 1:01:53
  have the Pacers who are a fast-paced team.
• 1:01:55
  They do the same thing. They don't have a player that
• 1:01:57
  just one-on-one on top of the key.
• 1:01:59
  They have players that are meant to pass and are meant to shoot
• 1:02:02
  the ball when they're open. I think it's going to be fun
• 1:02:05
  series. I'm excited to watch.
• 1:02:06
  It's they're young and that's why a lot of young kids are
• 1:02:09
  going to be excited to watch a bunch of young players go at it
• 1:02:12
  with one another. I do.
• 1:02:14
  Miss old man LeBron. They're.
• 1:02:15
  Old First of all, it's the LJA and I just thinking about the
• 1:02:21
  organization as a whole, that's all I have to think about.
• 1:02:23
  I don't want to see LeBron James in another Finals again.
• 1:02:26
  I do believe and I'll say this again, I I think that the Lakers
• 1:02:30
  are going to be much better next year.
• 1:02:31
  I think they're going to have a chance to go after another
• 1:02:34
  superstar to play with LeBron James and the the group of
• 1:02:39
  craziness with Luka. By the way, did anybody check
• 1:02:41
  out Luka Doncic? How much weight he's lost
• 1:02:43
  already, Luke? You know this was coming after
• 1:02:46
  what they said about him. Did you see what he?
• 1:02:49
  He's he literally now it's, it's just a bigger middle finger to
• 1:02:52
  them be like, yeah, if I wanted to do it, I can, yeah.
• 1:02:55
  He should have posted on social media Attack Nico Harrison.
• 1:02:58
  He was at, he didn't go to the Knicks series, but he was at the
• 1:03:01
  OK C Thunder series against I think who did OK C play Nuggets.
• 1:03:06
  It was the Nuggets. He was at that series.
• 1:03:09
  He was actually sitting in the audience and they took video of
• 1:03:12
  him. He looked like he lost 25 lbs.
• 1:03:15
  Could you imagine? He lost 25.
• 1:03:18
  Pounds spent like a week in like Lebron's hyperbaric red wine
• 1:03:23
  chamber. I don't think it had anything to
• 1:03:24
  do with it. I think he.
• 1:03:25
  Realized. I think he realized that he has
• 1:03:28
  an opportunity to win a championship of LeBron James.
• 1:03:31
  LeBron. And by the way, for anybody that
• 1:03:33
  thought LeBron James wasn't going to opt into that $52
• 1:03:35
  million contract, shame on you guys.
• 1:03:38
  He is absolutely. And he's going to opt into the
• 1:03:40
  year after because he's got two years left on that damn
• 1:03:43
  contract. Yeah, he's he's absolutely
• 1:03:47
  opting into those contracts. Anybody that thought that it was
• 1:03:50
  all about of? Course, he's going to try and do
• 1:03:52
  it too, to hopefully like keep his son even on the team.
• 1:03:56
  Well, so. Hey, Errol, we got one more
• 1:03:59
  intern over. Here, let's hear what Aaron
• 1:04:01
  said. New Yorker that I want to hear.
• 1:04:03
  From unmute yourself my friend, because there you go.
• 1:04:06
  Well, I mean, looking at the series as a whole, I do think
• 1:04:09
  it's going to be an enjoyable series.
• 1:04:11
  Now as a Knick fan, I will only watch if OKC absolutely destroys
• 1:04:16
  the Pacers. That's what I really want to
• 1:04:19
  see. But if you really look at a
• 1:04:21
  stand stand up point, the paint OKC went to seven games with the
• 1:04:28
  Nuggets Pesky team. The paces are pesky team.
• 1:04:32
  They really dig in on defense. They they they shoot a lot of
• 1:04:35
  threes. So if you're going to compare
• 1:04:37
  these two teams, I feel like if it goes more than 567 games,
• 1:04:43
  he's going to get a lot more views.
• 1:04:44
  All right, I I want to hear Scoops deserves an opportunity.
• 1:04:47
  I would like to hear his. Let's get.
• 1:04:49
  Let's get Tommy. I might as well get everybody's
• 1:04:51
  thoughts in this. Series the Hofstra connection
• 1:04:53
  coming up over here, right? He's not.
• 1:04:55
  He's not on the. Sub not on the toilet.
• 1:04:57
  No, he's not on the toilet. Coming at you live from the.
• 1:04:59
  Toilet. My honest reaction.
• 1:05:03
  I'm going to turn this on so you can actually see me a little
• 1:05:05
  better. My honest reaction this series,
• 1:05:09
  it is going to be very boring now I don't know about if it not
• 1:05:12
  being watched, it might be very watched like you said I'm going
• 1:05:14
  to be watching it for. Sure, this makes my pecker
• 1:05:16
  harder the same. Reason is Aaron, of course I
• 1:05:17
  would love to see the OK C dominate the Pacers.
• 1:05:20
  But that's the thing, everybody knows that it's going to be the
• 1:05:22
  Pacers dominating. I'm sorry, the OK C dominating
• 1:05:25
  the Pacers. That is exactly the same reason.
• 1:05:27
  I'm going to bring this up to only for the fact of everybody
• 1:05:30
  new going into the World Series, going into the NBA Finals 2
• 1:05:35
  seasons ago when we had the Nuggets in Heat.
• 1:05:37
  As soon as we saw the last game between the between the Miami
• 1:05:40
  Heat and the Celtics and the Game 7 series where we let the
• 1:05:43
  Celtics come back 30 and everything, that was really the
• 1:05:46
  only highlight because we knew it was going to be Nikola Yokich
• 1:05:48
  running away with it and stomping over Liver Jimmy
• 1:05:50
  Butler. So for this exact same reason, I
• 1:05:53
  don't have any reason why people are actually going to be excited
• 1:05:56
  for the Pacers. Nobody wanted the Pacers in the
• 1:05:58
  world and I keep saying the World Series in the NBA Finals.
• 1:06:01
  Nobody wanted them in the world in the NBA Finals.
• 1:06:03
  So for that reason, it's going to be boring.
• 1:06:05
  Probably not. Why?
• 1:06:06
  Because you're. Well, yeah.
• 1:06:07
  Yeah, well, Java's going to change, Tommy.
• 1:06:10
  Scoops. And to go back at what all you
• 1:06:13
  guys are saying, I know a lot of Knick fans wanted to see the
• 1:06:15
  Knicks go to the Finals against OK C They want it.
• 1:06:18
  It didn't matter. It didn't matter who the Knicks
• 1:06:20
  were going to play as long as it was the Knicks.
• 1:06:22
  Now, everybody that can't stand, obviously Hal Burton and this
• 1:06:25
  Pacer team that gave the Knicks no respect after the game.
• 1:06:29
  Even the only person, Pasco Siakam, actually said some nice
• 1:06:32
  things about the Knicks, that we played a good team and all that.
• 1:06:35
  I got to give him a lot of credit because at least he gave
• 1:06:37
  the Knicks a little bit of credit.
• 1:06:39
  He gave him a little bit of credit, but everybody else,
• 1:06:42
  including Hal Burton, had nothing good to say.
• 1:06:45
  And I got to give the Pacer fans a lot of credit because they
• 1:06:48
  stood behind their team throughout this series.
• 1:06:51
  It it didn't matter when the Knicks fans went out there in
• 1:06:54
  the first game. I think it was what game three
• 1:06:56
  or game 4 when the Knicks won in in Indiana, what they were
• 1:06:59
  screaming and all that. The Knicks fans were staying at
• 1:07:01
  the end of the game and they were dealing with Barclay and
• 1:07:04
  Shack and they were out there screaming go New York, go New
• 1:07:07
  York, go New York, go. And then all of a sudden we, we
• 1:07:10
  watch what the Indiana fans did after the series and they stuck
• 1:07:14
  it to the New York Knicks fans. And I, you got to give them
• 1:07:16
  credit. They stood behind.
• 1:07:18
  I'll tell you one a bunch of fans out there that didn't
• 1:07:21
  really stand behind their team, that is the 76ers.
• 1:07:24
  The Philadelphia 76ers did not stand behind their team
• 1:07:28
  throughout that series against the Knicks last year.
• 1:07:30
  And even when the Knicks won, they didn't stand behind their
• 1:07:33
  team. So it it it shows you the type
• 1:07:36
  of fans Philadelphia and the 76er fans are over there for
• 1:07:40
  their teams. And that's why Joel Embiid could
• 1:07:41
  be playing for another organization next year.
• 1:07:43
  So. By by the way, a bonus deuce of
• 1:07:45
  the day to our friend Austin Krell, who said the Knicks would
• 1:07:47
  be out in the first round. Austin Krell throw.
• 1:07:49
  Throw a little little hate to the Pacers before we finish
• 1:07:53
  this. Why?
• 1:07:54
  Because I think they're going to get swept.
• 1:07:55
  No. Here's my case for them getting
• 1:07:57
  swept. I think they are worse at every
• 1:08:00
  position compared to the Thunder at every single position.
• 1:08:05
  I think the Thunder have 3 guards that they can throw at
• 1:08:09
  Halliburton, in Shea, in Caruso, in Dort.
• 1:08:14
  That's going to make him miserable the entire series.
• 1:08:18
  And who's going to create offense if it's not Halliburton?
• 1:08:21
  I didn't see much of that whatsoever from the Pacers.
• 1:08:25
  It was Halliburton high usage driving that and that that's not
• 1:08:28
  even all of their defenders. Think about what Siakam was for
• 1:08:31
  them. Well, Siakam is going to be
• 1:08:33
  giving up three inches to Chet Holmgren.
• 1:08:35
  Siakam also then if he gets into the hole has Hardenstein, who's
• 1:08:39
  one of the best help defenders coming on over at the center
• 1:08:41
  position. That's and Miles Turner was
• 1:08:45
  garbage against the Knicks in my opinion.
• 1:08:47
  I don't think he's very good and there's the jury.
• 1:08:49
  He's been an inconsistent player.
• 1:08:50
  He shoots too many threes for a big man.
• 1:08:52
  He's well when he's hitting them, you know he's a good.
• 1:08:54
  Player, yeah, but he shoots too many.
• 1:08:56
  Inconsistent Mitch gave him all sorts of trouble, so I I
• 1:09:00
  personally. Bagel Hope.
• 1:09:01
  They're in a lot of trouble with their matchups.
• 1:09:03
  I don't think they match up well whatsoever.
• 1:09:06
  Jalen Williams, if he goes off on offense, he doesn't even
• 1:09:10
  really have much to do defensively because Nemhard is
• 1:09:13
  not an offensive player. Niece Smith gets hot.
• 1:09:16
  He's like a, First of all, Nimhart is a, he's like a flea.
• 1:09:19
  What he did to Jaylen defensively, yes, he is
• 1:09:22
  unbelievable defensively. And by the way, he got under
• 1:09:25
  Jaylen Brunson's so much in that game.
• 1:09:28
  He head butted him in the fourth quarter.
• 1:09:30
  I mean, who didn't see that? I was so very surprised it
• 1:09:32
  wasn't a flagrant foul called on Jaylen Brunson.
• 1:09:34
  He didn't give him any space, so he just went straight forward
• 1:09:38
  and he didn't move his head out of the way.
• 1:09:41
  Brunson, look, you said Brunson's not strong.
• 1:09:43
  I disagreed. Brunson's very strong.
• 1:09:44
  He's like a bulldog out there, but he doesn't have like the
• 1:09:47
  length to affect people in the same way that a guy like Shay is
• 1:09:51
  going to affect Halliburton. Halliburton is not stronger than
• 1:09:54
  Brunson, but Halliburton is faster and longer, can get
• 1:09:56
  around Brunson and get a shot up over Brunson and he's not going
• 1:09:59
  to be able to do that against. Shay a lot of hot ladies.
• 1:10:03
  And he's not going to be able to do that consistently in this
• 1:10:06
  series, and I think it's four or five games.
• 1:10:08
  That's I'm putting you on a leash now.
• 1:10:10
  I think they're -750 for the series of Thunder, for the
• 1:10:13
  record in Vegas. No, I, I, I think it's going to
• 1:10:16
  be a lot closer than everybody thinks.
• 1:10:18
  It's not going to be a sweep. I think the Pacers will put
• 1:10:20
  pressure on OK C, especially in Indiana.
• 1:10:23
  I think they can win maybe one or two games in Indiana.
• 1:10:26
  I think it's going to be a hard take for OKC to go over there to
• 1:10:30
  OKC and beat them in their home on their homecourt.
• 1:10:32
  They've been really, really good.
• 1:10:34
  I think the Nuggets were the only team that beat them on.
• 1:10:36
  Their homecourt and that was the adversity.
• 1:10:37
  They needed that type of series because they've been just
• 1:10:39
  coasting. And I'm going to tell you this,
• 1:10:41
  Dort is as good of a defensive wing defender in the NBA that
• 1:10:46
  we've seen in a very long time. So Dort's going to create a lot
• 1:10:49
  of problems on the offensive, on the offensive side of the ball
• 1:10:53
  for the Pacers because he he's a great rebounder too.
• 1:10:56
  And he's he's tough man. He's going to push you around.
• 1:10:58
  This is a very good all the round team.
• 1:11:01
  And by the way, OKC in the next three years have six first round
• 1:11:06
  draft picks. 6. That's how good and young OK C
• 1:11:11
  is going to be for a very long time.
• 1:11:12
  This isn't going to be the first and it won't be the last time we
• 1:11:15
  see OK C the Thunder in the Western Conference final.
• 1:11:19
  I'd like to thank all the fans that are following us on
• 1:11:22
  obviously Blue Wire. We're not on Blue Wire yet guys.
• 1:11:25
  So I know a lot of fans probably have gone on Blue Wire and
• 1:11:28
  trying to look for us. Blue Wire is working on it.
• 1:11:30
  I did speak to Blue Wire. They it should be up in the next
• 1:11:33
  week or so. It usually takes a little while
• 1:11:36
  for it to go up on their, you know, on their website site.
• 1:11:38
  So just relax. It'll be up there again.
• 1:11:43
  Thank you to all the fans on all our social medias from Spotify,
• 1:11:46
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• 1:11:51
  call it X Instagram, all the social media platforms.
• 1:11:55
  Thank you for all the fans following us.
• 1:11:56
  Keep following us and again, our YouTube channel growing as well
• 1:12:01
  and, and, and we're going to be working on more of the YouTube
• 1:12:04
  channel over the next couple of weeks.
• 1:12:06
  So thank you to all the fans and, and by the way, who do we
• 1:12:09
  have on on Thursday? All right, joining the show, 915
• 1:12:12
  Hall of Fame safety Leroy Butler, also the guy who
• 1:12:15
  invented the Lambo leap. He was a 2022 Hall of Fame
• 1:12:18
  inductee. And yes, the guy who invented
• 1:12:21
  the Lambo leap in the late 90s? Super Bowl champion, A four time
• 1:12:25
  Pro Bowl. Safety.
• 1:12:26
  And that was the I was actually going to go to Ohio to watch
• 1:12:31
  Revis be inducted that year and we were going to go with Josh.
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  Remember that. Yeah, I remember that.
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  We were going to go to that that Hall of Fame and Kleco, Joe
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  Kleco and Revis went in that year.
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  But Leroy was one of the more underrated, one of the greatest
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  safeties ever played the game. So it's cool.
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  It's kind of cool getting him on the show.
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  It's going to be a great interview and he doesn't really
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  interview a lot. He doesn't really go on a lot of
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  shows. So it's pretty cool that he
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  wants to come on the show and talk about his career and being
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  inducted to the Hall of Fame. I think there's only been like 6
• 1:13:04
  safeties ever been inducted into the Hall of Fame and he's one of
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  them. It's a pretty cool story, so
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  it's great to have him on. I'm looking forward to getting
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  Leroy on the show. I'm sure Jabba is.
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  I'm sure all of you guys will be very intrigued to hear some of
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  the stories that he has in his past and what he's doing in the
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  future with all the different organizations he's working with.
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  All right, that's it. Thank you, Nick.
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  By the way, congratulations to Nick winning his first coaching
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  job. Oh, by the way, so Golf Club for
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  old Nicky. 17 strikeouts for the old Nick boy.
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  It wasn't him throwing the ball, that's for sure.
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  Are you surprised? No, I'm not surprised.
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  You're always trying to find a way to, you know, stand out and
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  you're going to be a good coach. You're a good you're a good
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  dude. So I I, I know I don't expect
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  anything but greatness for the old wood boy.
• 1:13:51
  As we Hold on, hold on. I'm going to figure.
• 1:13:54
  Breaking news Goody has no Woody.
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  All right, that's it for our show, ladies and gentlemen.
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