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The Late Debate | 29 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Lately. Welcome the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us on the
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  Speaker 2: Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storra and Caleb
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  Speaker 2: Bond coming up. We want to show you a different
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  Speaker 2: kind of car chase. Police in the UK went full
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  Speaker 2: lights and siren in pursuit of a woman in a wheelchair.
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  Speaker 2: Will show you that a little later. All it's missing
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  Speaker 2: is the Benny Hill music. It's fantastic. Plus when we
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  Speaker 2: look at what's making news tomorrow, the very latest in
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  Speaker 2: that foiled terror plot in Sydney and does it look
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  Speaker 2: like there'll be a rate cut just in time for
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi to call an election? The papers talking about
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  Speaker 2: that tomorrow as well. We'll get to all of that shortly,
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  Speaker 2: but first, in a classic case of better late than never,
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  Speaker 2: the Queensland government has announced a freeze on the prescription
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  Speaker 2: of puberty blockers to children and an inquiry into the
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  Speaker 2: way children with gender dysphoria are being treated.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I say it's late because the UK prescribing puberty blockers
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  Speaker 2: last year after the Cass inquiry found that they were
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  Speaker 2: incredibly harmful and there was little to no benefit evidenced.
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  Speaker 2: Not only that, but in France, Finland, Norway and Denmark.
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  Speaker 2: All of those European countries have massively scaled back the
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  Speaker 2: way they are treating children with gender dysphoria, moving away
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  Speaker 2: from the so called gender affirming care model. And in
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  Speaker 2: the USA overnight, Donald Trump announced a ban on all
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  Speaker 2: sex change therapy for anyone under the age of nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: We'll come back to Queensland in a minute, but it's
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  Speaker 2: worth reading for you, the executive order from Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: The order begins with this introduction. It says, across the
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  Speaker 2: country today, medical professionals are maiming and sterilizing a growing
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  Speaker 2: number of impressionable children under the radical and false claim
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  Speaker 2: that adults can change your child's sex through a series
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  Speaker 2: of irreversible medical interventions. This dangerous trend will be a
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  Speaker 2: stain on our nation's history, and it must end. The
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  Speaker 2: executive order goes on to say countless children soon regret
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  Speaker 2: that they've been mutilated and begin to grasp the horrifying
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  Speaker 2: tragedy that they'll never be able to conceive children of
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  Speaker 2: their own or nurture their children through breastfeeding. Moreover, these
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  Speaker 2: vulnerable youths medical bills may rise throughout their lifetimes, as
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  Speaker 2: they are often trapped with lifelong medical complications, losing war
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  Speaker 2: with their own bodies, and tragically sterilization. So that's the
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  Speaker 2: introduction to this executive order that Trump issued overnight. Trump
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  Speaker 2: went on social media and spoke very strongly about how
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  Speaker 2: he feels on this issue. He says, and I quote today,
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  Speaker 2: it was my great honor to sign an executive order
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  Speaker 2: banning the chemical carstration and medical mutilation of innocent children
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  Speaker 2: in the United States of America. Our nation will no
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  Speaker 2: longer fund, sponsor promote, assist, or support so called gender
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  Speaker 2: affirming care, which has already ruined far too many precious lives.
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  Speaker 2: My order the REX agencies to use every available means
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  Speaker 2: to cut off federal financial participation in institutions which seek
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  Speaker 2: to provide these barbaric medical procedures that should never have
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  Speaker 2: been allowed to take place. Were well done, Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: But isn't it wild that it took a presidential executive
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  Speaker 2: order to stop the maiming and sterilization of children in America.
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  Speaker 2: What's even wilder is that it's still happening here in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: As Liz Storer pointed out last night, Pauline Hansen called
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  Speaker 2: five times for an inquiry into the treatment of children
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  Speaker 2: with gender dysporia, and five times our federal senators said no,
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  Speaker 2: we're not interested in even asking questions about how these
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  Speaker 2: children are being treated well. The Queensland LMP's hand was
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  Speaker 2: forced when it was revealed a Cans gender clinic had
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  Speaker 2: been issuing puberty blockers to children as young as twelve
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  Speaker 2: without even parental consent, and so they've announced a freeze
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  Speaker 2: on that and an inquiry. Here's the Queensland Health Minister,
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  Speaker 2: Tim Nichols.
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  Speaker 4: The review will encourage the participation of clinicians and professionals
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  Speaker 4: with relevant expertise, as well as young people with lived
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  Speaker 4: experience and their families. I've also asked the Director General
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  Speaker 4: to work across the state to ensure that similar services
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  Speaker 4: have not and will not be offered in other locations
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  Speaker 4: outside of the Queensland Children's Gender Service Framework. We need
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  Speaker 4: to find out whether the children who have been treated
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  Speaker 4: in Cans have been appropriately treated when it appears that
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  Speaker 4: it is otherwise.
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  Speaker 5: I'd like to.
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  Speaker 2: Say well done Calbin Liz to the LNP, but they
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  Speaker 2: didn't go to the election with this as a policy.
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  Speaker 2: They've really been left with no choice but to launch
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  Speaker 2: this inquiry when you look at the revelations coming out
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  Speaker 2: of CANS, right, so they get.
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  Speaker 5: A little bit of credit, but not too much.
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  Speaker 6: And as we know about inquiries, this is lip service.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, anything happens your government, state or federal will
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  Speaker 6: be like, will have an inquiry, and that shuts people
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  Speaker 6: up in the interim. By the time inquiries finished, most
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  Speaker 6: people have completely forgotten about the incident because we live
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  Speaker 6: in a twenty four hour media cycle where even something
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  Speaker 6: really big and really important is washed away in the
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  Speaker 6: space of twenty minutes, much less twenty months.
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  Speaker 7: So my hopes aren't high for this inquiry.
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  Speaker 6: He also said, which I noted greatly, that they will
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  Speaker 6: be consulting people, obviously kids on these treatments and their families.
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  Speaker 6: So this is going to be one of those heart
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  Speaker 6: rending I've sat through many of these in my years
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  Speaker 6: working in government, one particularly on euthanasia.
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  Speaker 1: You get these.
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  Speaker 6: Heartrending stories on both sides of the fence, and then
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  Speaker 6: people sitting in this inquiry are obviously taking notes et
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  Speaker 6: cetera and so on, but where the recommendations for nobody
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  Speaker 6: ever knows, because of course you've got these two sides
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  Speaker 6: who are diametrically opposed on.
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  Speaker 7: A deeply moral issue.
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  Speaker 6: Who's writing the recommendations. Nobody really knows at the end
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  Speaker 6: of the day, but.
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  Speaker 7: We'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 6: Am I hopeful no Queensland is the state that has well.
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  Speaker 6: It deplatformed doctor Gillian Spencer back in twenty twenty three,
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  Speaker 6: a child psychiatrist who was trying to sound the alarm
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  Speaker 6: saying this gender affirming nonsense is harming countless lives. And
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  Speaker 6: she's one of a handful of different sites and pediatricians
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  Speaker 6: that have been stood down in Queensland. She's still not
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  Speaker 6: be reinstated. It's twenty twenty five and this highly qualified
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  Speaker 6: woman is still without a job because she dared to
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  Speaker 6: speak about what is now worldwide a multi billion dollar industry.
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  Speaker 7: That's what these butchers get.
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  Speaker 6: I was recently watching lastly, I was recently watching a short.
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  Speaker 7: Clip of a kid and it was a kid by.
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  Speaker 6: Our mates Gaye against MS, which have amassed hundreds of
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  Speaker 6: thousands of followers. They are LGBTIQ people, but they are
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  Speaker 6: very much against kids being indoctrinated, kids being transd at
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  Speaker 6: such a young age. And this clip was of a
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  Speaker 6: child who was in a wheelchair and non verbal. That
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  Speaker 6: is how not within their power it was to make
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  Speaker 6: a proper decision regarding them transitioning their gender. And this
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  Speaker 6: person had undergone a double mastectomy, they were shirtless, the
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  Speaker 6: scars were visible. I'm sorry if this is upsetting, but
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  Speaker 6: people need to get upset when they realize the extent.
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  Speaker 7: To which these butchers will go ho.
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  Speaker 6: This is what we're up against, a multi billion dollar
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  Speaker 6: industry that sees no problem with carrying out that kind
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  Speaker 6: of procedure, even on someone that vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be clear about what this inquiry is.
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  Speaker 8: And there are no dooms that have been made public
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  Speaker 8: for this inquiry, so presumably it's an internal operation. It's
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  Speaker 8: not a public inquiry. It's not a parliamentary inquiry. It
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  Speaker 8: doesn't have the sort.
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  Speaker 1: Of guide rails that a Royal Commission, et cetera would have.
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  Speaker 8: The secret Squarely, it is an inquiry into whether the
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  Speaker 8: rules as they currently stand in Queensland have.
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  Speaker 1: Been applied properly.
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  Speaker 8: It's not necessarily an inquiry into whether or not children
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  Speaker 8: should be provided with puberty blockers. The allegation here is
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  Speaker 8: that a twelve year old was given treatment without parental permission,
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  Speaker 8: So what Queensland is now looking into is whether or
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  Speaker 8: not there might be other cases of that happening. Now,
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  Speaker 8: that doesn't necessarily mean that they come away from this
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  Speaker 8: and say this means that we shouldn't be given giving
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  Speaker 8: gender affirming care to children in Queensland. It means they
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  Speaker 8: come back with a set of recommendations that says this
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  Speaker 8: is how the set of policies should be implemented. The
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  Speaker 8: inquiry is not about whether or not this is legitimate treatment.
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  Speaker 8: It's about whether or not the rules that exist have
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  Speaker 8: been adhered to. And they are two very different things.
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  Speaker 8: And as you have pointed out multiple times, Liz, at
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  Speaker 8: a federal level, five times an inquiry has been asked for.
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  Speaker 8: Inquiries have been asked for on state levels. I know
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  Speaker 8: Frank Pangalo in South Australia has tried hard to.
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  Speaker 1: Get one up.
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  Speaker 8: I think the Premier Peter malanowskis down there at the
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  Speaker 8: time last year said that he didn't want to get
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  Speaker 8: involved in the culture wars. I mean, this isn't culture
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  Speaker 8: wars stuff. We're talking about lives here. And you look
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  Speaker 8: at the UK, as you said, James, with the Cash
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  Speaker 8: report and how the NHS has stopped giving treatment. After that,
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  Speaker 8: you look to the US now, where Trump has just
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  Speaker 8: given down this executive order. And we should also note
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  Speaker 8: about the executive order, this is an order from Trump
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  Speaker 8: that means there can be no state involvement in any
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  Speaker 8: kind of gender affirming care. That is not to say
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  Speaker 8: that private outfits don't continue to do it. The executive
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  Speaker 8: order then asked that if they do that, the DOJ
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  Speaker 8: try to soothe them and take legal action against them.
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  Speaker 8: But that doesn't necessarily mean that's going to happen. So
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  Speaker 8: this stuff can still potentially go on in the United States,
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  Speaker 8: it just won't have the support of the state.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, none of this is a silver bullet.
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  Speaker 2: If the LNP, as you say, simply investigate whether or
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  Speaker 2: not these puberty blockers are being prescribed within the agreed framework,
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  Speaker 2: then all they'll be doing is repeating an inquiry that
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  Speaker 2: the Queensland Labor Party held last year into the provision
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  Speaker 2: of services. And as a result of that inquiry, the
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  Speaker 2: then Health Minister Shannon Fentaman increased funding for gender clinics.
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  Speaker 1: So don't know what a woman is, they.
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  Speaker 5: Could exactly so children could get this care.
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  Speaker 2: So g I hope the LNP, by the way, I
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  Speaker 2: should say tomorrow night you need to watch Credlin because
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  Speaker 2: Caroline Marcus, our associate, has got a big story tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: night about a number a large number of very prominent
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  Speaker 2: Australians who are all going on the record demanding and
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  Speaker 2: inquire into this issue. And I think she's breaking that
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  Speaker 2: story on Quedlin tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 1: Well you've just broken it. Well sorry Carrow.
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  Speaker 6: But also given the issue is the parents didn't know.
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  Speaker 6: That's what this boils down to. It's the parental consent.
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  Speaker 6: The twelve year old probably would have been able to
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  Speaker 6: get it anyway. The thing is that the parents didn't know.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just reminded of the legislation in Victoria where they
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  Speaker 6: do this behind your back in the school system and
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  Speaker 6: flagrantly say you can go to Victoria Education their own
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  Speaker 6: website where they say, yes we will, we will do
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  Speaker 6: this for your child. We will start calling them by
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  Speaker 6: their chosen pronouns at school behind your back. If the
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  Speaker 6: child doesn't want to tell their parents, then.
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  Speaker 7: We've got the child's back.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it's just mind blowing that in one state
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  Speaker 6: now they're saving face and being like all the parents
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  Speaker 6: didn't know. We've got to be seen to have an
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  Speaker 6: inquiry in another state, they just say, oh.
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  Speaker 7: No, look it up on our website.
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  Speaker 6: Our Department of Education literally says we can and will
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  Speaker 6: trans your child behind your back through our education department.
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  Speaker 5: Period we've got to move on, but.
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  Speaker 2: Just before we do, to give people an idea of
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  Speaker 2: how prevalent this is in Australia. In Queensland, seven hundred
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  Speaker 2: and three kids were issued with puberty blockers between twenty
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  Speaker 2: eighteen and twenty twenty three. That's fourteen children for every
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  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people in Queensland.
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  Speaker 5: In the UK where they had this big inquiry.
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  Speaker 2: And they said no more, it's only three children per
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  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand, So in terms of per capita, this
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  Speaker 2: is a much bigger issue just in Queensland than in
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  Speaker 2: all of.
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  Speaker 5: The UK if you look at it on a per
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  Speaker 5: capita basis.
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  Speaker 8: And then you think about how the rest of us
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  Speaker 8: are trying to deal with the fact that there are
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  Speaker 8: so many people who are allegedly transgender in the world,
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  Speaker 8: and we look at, you know, whether or not we
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  Speaker 8: can play sport fairly, particularly if you're a girl or
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  Speaker 8: a woman potentially facing off against a biological male, and
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  Speaker 8: there have been two cases now in the UK. One
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  Speaker 8: has just recently come to light where girls have tried
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  Speaker 8: to point out that they are playing against biological men
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  Speaker 8: in their women's sports and they have been punished for
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  Speaker 8: doing so.
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  Speaker 1: Can you believe it now?
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  Speaker 8: The latest case is an eighteen year old girl who
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  Speaker 8: was playing soccer in the UK. She has ADHD. Apparently
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  Speaker 8: she hadn't taken her meds on this day. She actually
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  Speaker 8: had to go off from plead to get off on
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  Speaker 8: this charge, the charge being that she had questioned the
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  Speaker 8: gender of another player and then she had to make
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  Speaker 8: these please, oh, I hadn't taken my medication that day.
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  Speaker 1: This is from the Telegraph.
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  Speaker 8: An investigation into her comments required to provide a written statement,
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  Speaker 8: which Telegraph Sport has been told she needed assistance in composing.
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  Speaker 8: So that gives you some indication of the person we
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  Speaker 8: are talking about here perhaps didn't think clearly about what
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  Speaker 8: they'd said in the first place. In it, she had
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  Speaker 8: said she sought guidance from the referee due to her
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  Speaker 8: trunds opponent's extremely aggressive style of play. So said she
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  Speaker 8: had not taken her ADHD medication on the day in
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  Speaker 8: question because another medical condition had prevented her from doing so.
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  Speaker 8: She's literally pleading to be able to play soccer by saying, well,
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  Speaker 8: I didn't take my ADHD meds that day because they're
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  Speaker 8: going to suspend her for questioning the fact that there
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  Speaker 8: is a man playing against her.
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  Speaker 1: She was given a suspension of.
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  Speaker 8: Six matches, two of which were suspended, so she got
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  Speaker 8: a four match ban in the end. Now, what she
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  Speaker 8: allegedly said to the referee was something along the lines of, ref,
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  Speaker 8: have you checked if all their players are eligible to play?
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  Speaker 8: Look at their keeper and for example, their number ten
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  Speaker 8: is obviously a man, or something similar to that. She
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  Speaker 8: then went on to ask the same questions of people
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  Speaker 8: on the opposing team. Because she didn't get an answer
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  Speaker 8: out of the ref she was eventually taken off and
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  Speaker 8: then had.
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  Speaker 1: These charges put up.
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  Speaker 8: She's said since then that it kind of made her
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  Speaker 8: hate football because there she is, as a young woman,
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  Speaker 8: simply wanting to play football against other women and being
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  Speaker 8: forced to play against other men. And she said, look,
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  Speaker 8: if I try to question this again, I'm going to
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  Speaker 8: get another six match banned. So I feel like my
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  Speaker 8: voice has been taken away. And it follows another recent
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  Speaker 8: case of a seventeen year old in the UK again
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  Speaker 8: playing soccer a girl who suspected of having autism. So
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  Speaker 8: again we're not talking about someone who's trying to be
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  Speaker 8: insensitive at all. It's saying what is literally in front
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  Speaker 8: of them and said to a player on the opposition
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  Speaker 8: team who was a transgender person.
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  Speaker 1: A male, are you a man?
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  Speaker 8: And she was banned for six matches four suspended, so
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  Speaker 8: in the end a two match suspension, So you and
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  Speaker 8: you can now be banned from playing sport for saying
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  Speaker 8: the bleeding obvious.
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  Speaker 1: This is where we are.
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  Speaker 5: So this is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: If you do a deliberately aggressive illegal tackle, you'll get
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  Speaker 2: a red card and a three match suspension in that
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  Speaker 2: UK competition. But if you ask whether the man on
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  Speaker 2: the women's team is a man? In a six week
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  Speaker 2: suspension and the fact that Telegraph make a big deal
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  Speaker 2: about the fact that this eighteen year old hadn't taken
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  Speaker 2: her ADHD medication, as if that's the reason that she
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  Speaker 2: had a problem with a man on the women's team.
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  Speaker 2: And incidentally, the seventeen year old you mentioned the article,
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  Speaker 2: make sure we all know that seventeen year old had autism,
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  Speaker 2: so that might have been why they didn't understand why
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  Speaker 2: a man would be on the women's team.
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  Speaker 5: I would put it to you the only intelligent.
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  Speaker 2: People on the pitch with a girl with the ADHD
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  Speaker 2: and the girl with the autism, because they were able
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  Speaker 2: to point out the bleting.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously they're ahibitions.
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  Speaker 6: They're inhibitions aren't quite as high as everybody else. As
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  Speaker 6: you are, like, we have to turn the line otherwise
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  Speaker 6: we too will be suspended. Those others are probably very
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  Speaker 6: aware of the high price cell pay if they dare
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  Speaker 6: to state that the sky is blue.
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  Speaker 7: And I will never ever understand.
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  Speaker 6: We've lived in this world for quite a while in
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  Speaker 6: which this idiocy is the norm. How many times have
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  Speaker 6: I said, if you've got to normalize something, it's not normal.
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  Speaker 6: You know, straight off the bat, it's not normal. Men
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  Speaker 6: playing with women pretending to be women not normal.
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  Speaker 7: But I still.
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  Speaker 6: Cannot believe, after years of this, now that we are
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  Speaker 6: living in a world in which all these sporting bodies,
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  Speaker 6: all these sporting codes, the universities in the US, the
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  Speaker 6: schools in the UK, across the western world, all of
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  Speaker 6: them profer a single man's mental illness over the career
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  Speaker 6: the sporting career of every single women in that league
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  Speaker 6: in that competition in that fill in the blank. We've
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  Speaker 6: seen it at Olympic levels and this is still just
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  Speaker 6: going on, even when yes, the people involved even like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: look I have a.
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  Speaker 7: Bit of a disability.
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  Speaker 6: I perhaps I should have thought twice.
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  Speaker 1: No, you don't get off the horse.
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  Speaker 7: Fills suspended for six months. How ridiculous is that?
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  Speaker 6: We are in a culture war where there is never
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  Speaker 6: going to be enough bodies piled up. People just sacrifice
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  Speaker 6: their livelihoods, Academics just getting ripped out of their universities,
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  Speaker 6: doctors being stood down, women in sports across the world
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  Speaker 6: missing out on their well deserved medals because one man's
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  Speaker 6: delusion has ruined it for everyone.
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: But everybody, everybody.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Who has agreed to this, Like I say this is
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: these are decisions made at board level. So every single
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: one of these boards are somehow enslaved to an ideology
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: that makes no sense in any way, shape or form.
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: What is going on? How do you get that many
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: people on side?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: So I wish every woman on the English national team
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: would come out in defense of these girls. And so
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: we can't have this in girls soccer, And that's just
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: the six week ban these kids have been sent for.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: You can guess at reeducation, so they will never make
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: this mistake again. But of course they will never make
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: the mistake of telling the bleeding obvious ever again, because
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: if they ever speak the truth again, then the sixth
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: match band they've already received will of course be extended.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: So now they'll just shut up, play with men and
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: act like it's normal.
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: Liz to Queensland.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: Now we're not much better news, Sadly, Not only are
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: your kids being trans behind your back, not only are
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: your power.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: Prices the highest in the nation.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Not only does a kid get a worse sentence of
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: stealing a car than for raping a woman in your
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: state currently, Queensland is we've just found out today that
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: you are forking out two weeks leave for every public
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: employee who decides to get the snip. Yeah, baby, this
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: makes absolutely no sense, right because we all know with
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: technology these days, laser vasectomy treatments literally take an hour.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: You can leave the clinic straight away, there's no downtime,
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: literally no downtime at all. But public employees in Queensland
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: have been getting two weeks paid leave to recover.
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: This is somehow reproductive leave.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: It's up there with IVF any woman who's been through
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: IVF would.
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: Be like, excuse me, what I mean? Can you get
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: a funnier story than this?
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: An expensively funny story the Career Mail reports. According to
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: Visectim Australia, if a patient's work is very physical and
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: involves heavy lifting or extreme movement, they will need to.
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: Go on like duties for a week after the procedure.
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: However, if you are like most public servants desk based,
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: you should be able to return to work the day
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: after having your vasectomy. I wonder how many public servants
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: in Queensland literally.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Got the snip just because.
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: They were like, hey, you know what we get?
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: Are you kidding? I'm going to the Bahamas.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I think you misunderstanding here is you don't need the
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: two weeks off because it's painful. You need the two
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: weeks off because you've been so filled with angst in
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: anticipation of.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Going for the snip.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Probably, but remember this is the state that gave public
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: servants the opportunity to have five days off after the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: failed voice referendum if they need to grieve the result
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of that. So they've got form here. But apparently doctors
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: in Queensland have been inundated with male public servants had
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: their vasectomy and need two weeks off and.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: We're not signing off on that. We're not going to
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: agree to it. So there.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Hey, if you're that kind of mail withdrawal from the
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: gene pool, you're.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: Doing us a favor.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: Seriously, if you would get the snip just for two
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: free weeks, aid leave, it's.
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: Only raught if you're not in on it, right, And
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: so many times I say, wish you could get one
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: of these.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I think, if I'm.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Two weeks off for getting a snip, how many times
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: can you get the snip?
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Well, because you can have you verseectively reversed, you can
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: in another two weeks.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: So can I just keep doing this like on on repeat?
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: And they say, you know, if you've got to do
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: heavy lifting, it might be a problem. Well, well, let's
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: be fair. A lot of public servants do heavy lifting.
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: I mean all those coffees they go out for every day,
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: all they're lifting they have to do because they've got
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: to break every hour to go.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And do it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: That that counts as heavy lifting. But you might not
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: have noticed, Liz. But when you said yeah, baby, James's
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: mouth to me, no baby.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: In fact, because the biggest sense having point so dad joke.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: They love their dad jokes, which is questionable if you're Caleb.
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: But I can't give no one come ye, but keep up.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: No one's going to come before though I did.
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: Actually one year I was given when I worked at
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: the Advertiser a card for.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Father been overshare because I'm here for it, and I.
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: Was given a card a Father's Day card in celebration
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: of all the dad jokes that I used to tell.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Its part. You know, I'm glad to lighten up alive
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a bit.
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: But you know you walk in it's yeah baby, you
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: walk out as no baby in two weeks off. I
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: can totally understand why these bloats are doing it.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Totally and queens and can absolutely afford it.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Of course, in the cost of living crisis, that's just
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: what we need to be doing. Paying public servants to
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: have two weeks off for no reason at all.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: Skin that really helps our fertility rate. It is a
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: thanks guy, thanks for playing a part.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Speaking of cost of living and public money being wasted.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Folk on the Northern Beaches in Sydney are about to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: get a massive rate hike. Last night council met for
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: four hours and decided the best way to solve their
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: financial issues was to hike rates by forty percent over
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the next three years. It means most rate payers will
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: be up for an extra six hundred and seventy eight
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: dollars on their rates bill every year. As you can imagine,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: people in the public gallery of the council meeting were
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: well mildly unimpressed.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Here's just a little bit of that meeting.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Now, this is a council with about one and a
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: half thousand staff, one hundred and eleven of those are executives.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Their wages bill is one hundred and sixty million dollars.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: That's up from one hundred and twenty million dollars just
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: seven years ago. The CEO is earning five hundred and
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: forty four thousand dollars a year. That's more than the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: state premiere. And most of the councilors who voted for
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: this forty percent rate hike a part of the Northern
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Beaches Independent Team, which is a political party, though they
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: call themselves the Independent Team, and they campaigned on the
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: basis of spending money wisely, helping small business and authentic
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: community based decision making. So this is how they made
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: an authentic community based decision to raise hikes by forty percent.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: They put it out to local residents. They offered four
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: options as to how they might deal with the council's finances.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Option one was we keep.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Rates as they are, but cut back on services. Option
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: four was we hike rates by forty percent. Only seventeen
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: people seventeen percent of people rather voted for a hike rate.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know who those people were that voted for
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: rates to got forty percent, but I would have been
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: afforded the authentic deceit based decision making decided we'll go
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: with the seventeen percent who wanted the rate hike.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: These since absolute snakes because they know they just got elected.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: We just had the New South Wales local government elections
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: in twenty twenty four. If we were anywhere near an election,
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: they would not dream of doing this.
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: But their home and hoes, Well, what is the term here?
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: Four years?
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: When I was a counselor back in WA, it was
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: four year term. But every state has different rules, because
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: why would we simplify anything?
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: Love federation so they know they're sitting pretty.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: It doesn't matter how much you incent the public in
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: your patch, right, now your home and ows for four
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: more years, and by then maybe.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: They'll have forgotten his counselor, Nicholas Bogarde, who seems quite
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: pleased with himself for the forty percent rate rise.
• 26:16
  Speaker 9: We were an organization with sixteen hundred staff. Right that
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: level of management is a manager to FD ratio of
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: about ten point six. That's not unusual in business or
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: in government.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: A rate rise, that's not unusual in business or government.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Code No, that is not unusual. Coins of Boguard to
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: see such money being spent. Our public money is going
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in that kind of direction. I mean seriously.
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: So it's one hundred and sixty million dollars they spend
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: on staff with about sixteen hundred staff, that's an average
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: of one hundred grand right now. I know that goes
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: all the way from the gardener who's on fifty k,
• 26:54
  Speaker 8: all the way up to the CEOs one hundreds and
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: hundred one thousand dollars dollars more than the premiere of Queensland,
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: et cetera. But you know that we're talking pretty decent
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: wages here. Twenty five million dollars of that goes to
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: executives and directors and managers who apparently have an average
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: of about ten staff underneath them.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Which is a pretty good ratio.
• 27:16
  Speaker 8: I would have thought there are a lot of workplaces
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: where managers are looking after a lot more staff than that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: And they want us to believe.
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: That over three years you need a forty percent increase.
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: So that's what roughly thirteen percent thirteen point three percent
• 27:31
  Speaker 8: a year. Now everything else has gone up, And I
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: understand that costs have gone up for councils like they've
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: gone up for the rest of us, because you know,
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: electricity has gone up in price, and they've got to
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: run the local pool and they've got to run the library.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And where I get that.
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: Their overheads have gone up, But where do they think
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: we get the money from, because our overheads have also
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: gone up. And we you and me sitting at home,
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: and I accept that a lot of people on the
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: Northern Beaches probably have more money than people in other
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: parts of Sydney, but a lot of people are against
• 28:04
  Speaker 8: the wall right now trying to pay the bills that
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: they have coming in. And if that means that the
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: local council has to pull it's built in a bit
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: tighter and say, well, there are certain things that we
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: can't afford to provide anymore or certain things we have
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: to cut the budget on.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Then that's just what they have to do.
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: They're trying to extract money out of people who don't
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: have money, and they can do it compulsorily. That's the
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: bit that angers me the most. Right, they can force
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: you to pay this money, money that you don't have.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And it's bad enough for a local resident.
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: You know, we're talking like four hundred dollars, six hundred
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: dollar dollars that you're right to go up if you're
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: a resin, if you're a local business, a small business,
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: it is small, like sixteen hundred.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Dollars, and how are they meant to pay for it?
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: We took last night about the fact that insurance companies
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: aren't even ensuring small businesses anymore against theft because theft
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: has gone through the roof. I mean, why would you
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: want to be a small business owner in this country.
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: Let's go to the US, where the people Trump has
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: chosen to join him in his administration are turning out
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: to be excellent communicators. First one I'll show you is
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: Tom Homan. He is the new borders are in the
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: United States. Remember the previous borders are was Camala Harris,
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: who is potentially the worst communicator you've ever seen in
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: American politics, probably up there with Nancy Pelosi, maybe even
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: worse than Nancy Pelosi. But Tom Homan, he is not
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: pulling his punches. A reporter from the UK bailed them
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: up and said, oh, all these people are apparently they're
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: not getting water when they're being deported. She goes on
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: and then say, well, why are you pulling out these
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: military plages or is this just to show that you're
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: a big boy.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: He wasn't having a bar of it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: This is beautiful you treating migrants humanely, but there's been
• 29:51
  Speaker 10: reports of them on planes with no water complaining.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Would you mean a bunch of crap?
• 29:58
  Speaker 11: Facilitiesunder standards in the industry. The man and were ice
• 30:02
  Speaker 11: A professionals. We do this for a living. And I
• 30:04
  Speaker 11: can tell you I ran Hayes for years. I was
• 30:06
  Speaker 11: the first director of race count through the ranks. It's
• 30:08
  Speaker 11: not okay to enter this country, Leagual. It's the crame.
• 30:10
  Speaker 11: And when you cause a crisis big as a bay
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: administration cause when you overwheun the board of job. But
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: they can't do their national security job. That's when the
• 30:17
  Speaker 11: fat nyl come across kurll at QUARTERMA Americans. That's when
• 30:20
  Speaker 11: you have a six hundred percent increase in sex trafficking.
• 30:22
  Speaker 11: Does you have a record number of no inspectaterrorist coming
• 30:24
  Speaker 11: across an open border? President trumpson security borders, promise to
• 30:27
  Speaker 11: the American people who're going to force the relation laws,
• 30:29
  Speaker 11: that's what we're going to do now.
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: Yes, he does talk a little bit fast, but what
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: he says makes a great deal of sense.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: It's good to see common sense.
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: Straightforward operators back in the administration in the United States.
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: They say what they mean, and they mean what they say.
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: So enter Carolyn Levitt. She is the new press secretary
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: for Donald Trump. She seems to be a good operator
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: as well. She hit the ground running today with her.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: First press conference.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: She also spoke about legal migration and how how good
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: is this to batter way questions from a reporter about
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: whether the illegals actually had a criminal record.
• 31:10
  Speaker 12: Thirty five hundred arrests aces me so far since President
• 31:13
  Speaker 12: Trump came back into office. Can you just tell us
• 31:15
  Speaker 12: the numbers how many have a criminal record versus those
• 31:18
  Speaker 12: who are just in the country illegally. All of them
• 31:20
  Speaker 12: because they illegally broke our nation's laws, and therefore they
• 31:23
  Speaker 12: are criminals as far as this administration goes. I know
• 31:25
  Speaker 12: the last administration didn't see it that way. So it's
• 31:27
  Speaker 12: a big culture shift in our nation to view someone
• 31:29
  Speaker 12: who breaks our immigration laws as a criminal. But that's
• 31:32
  Speaker 12: exactly what they are.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: Jass Chef's kiss Sue perb staff, and she's also said,
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: We're going to let everyone into this room. It's not
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: just the accredited journalists anymore. The people who believe they
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: deserve to be there because they have a degree that
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: they may as well wipe their bums with.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: So you know, oh, I'm more important than anyone else.
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: She's gone, were No, Actually, a lot of people get
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: their news and their information from social media these days,
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: so why would we not try to make it easier
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: for people to find out what's going on?
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Take a look.
• 32:06
  Speaker 12: The Trump White House will speak to all media outlets
• 32:09
  Speaker 12: and personalities, not just the legacy media who are seated
• 32:13
  Speaker 12: in this room. Because, according to recent pulling from Gallup,
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: Americans trust in mass media.
• 32:19
  Speaker 13: Has fallen to a record low.
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: Our team will work diligently to restore the press passes
• 32:24
  Speaker 12: of the four hundred and forty journalists whose passes were
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: wrongly revoked by the previous administration.
• 32:31
  Speaker 13: We're also opening up this briefing room to new media
• 32:34
  Speaker 13: voices who produced news related content and whose outlet is
• 32:38
  Speaker 13: not already represented by one of the seats in this room.
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: Now, look, I'm sure some of the analysis from TikTok
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: influences will be less than searing, but that's okay. But
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: how good to see a press sick after Karine Jean Pierre.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Who know, you kind of got to give it to her.
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: She was a great spin doctor in that she knew
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: how to lie through her teeth. But she has showed
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: her self Carolyn Levitt already to be a straight shooter.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: She's a straight communicator, and that's exactly what you need
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: when you're dealing with what will be a hostile media
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: in Trump's second term.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Well, Kareem Jean Pierre's claim to fame as the Press
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: secretary was of course, she was the first woman of
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: color who was openly a lesbian to ever stand behind
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: that podium, and she herself called herself a historic figure,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: which was a wonderful dem as all history if you've
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: ever seen one, But this this young lady's only twenty seven.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Years old, youngest to evidence Joel.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Youngest to do the job, and clearly chosen not because
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: she's the youngest, but because she's very, very good at it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: To show one more clip, Liz, this is her talking
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: about withdrawing funds from the World Health Organization and the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: discovery that American taxpayers were going to be up for
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: fifty million dollars to send condoms to Gaza.
• 33:55
  Speaker 12: Doge and Omb have actually found that there was thirty
• 33:58
  Speaker 12: seven million dollars was about to go out the door
• 34:01
  Speaker 12: to the World Health Organization, which is an organization as
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: you all know that President Trump, with the swipe of
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: his pen in that executive order, is no longer once
• 34:10
  Speaker 12: the United States to be a part of do Jaomb
• 34:12
  Speaker 12: also found that there was about to be fifty million
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: taxpayer dollars that went out the door to fund condoms
• 34:18
  Speaker 12: in Gaza. That is a preposterous waste of taxpayer money.
• 34:22
  Speaker 13: So that's what this pause is focused on, being good
• 34:25
  Speaker 13: stewards of tax dollars.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: I got to quickly say.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: It was reported in Israel back in twenty eighteen and
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty that Hamas were using condoms filling them with
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: explosives and blowing them up like balloons and floating.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: Them over the order.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: So here's something I did not have on my bingo
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: card in twenty twenty five.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Condoms.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: I didn't even think they would use condom belonging to
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: It was reported by the israel I Imagined and the
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: Jerusalem Pot.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Really they but he's a big story, right, So Donald
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Trump has prevented US taxes from funding attacks on Israel
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: via exploding condoms.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: I mean I did not have that, look.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Nor did I.
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: I was going to say this is a bad move,
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: because I think anything to stop them breeding would have
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: been good.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: But if you're telling me it's used for terrorism.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Then maybe they submit that exactly before we got a break.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: And speaking of Israel, the public broadcaster in the UK, ITV,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: have been forced into a very embarrassing apology after they
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: were covering the eightieth anniversary of the liberation of the
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Auschwitz concentration Camp.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: I'll play you the.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Clip from ITV as the Good Morning Britain presenter crossed
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: to Poland, where the anniversary was taking place. She talks
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: about the Holocaust and have a listen to the way
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: she talks about those who were targeted in the Holocaust.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: There's one group of people she seems to be missing.
• 35:52
  Speaker 14: King Charles will become the first British head of state
• 35:55
  Speaker 14: to visit Auschwitz Berknal later today as part of events
• 35:58
  Speaker 14: to mark eighty years since liberation of the Nazi death camp.
• 36:02
  Speaker 14: Six million people were killed in concentration camps during the
• 36:06
  Speaker 14: Second World War, as well as millions of others because
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: they were Polish, disabled, gay, or belonged to another ethnic group.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Now, as somebody pointed out on Twitter, she was ignoring
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: a very important, in fact central, in fact, the main
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: group of people. Someone said on Twitter, this dire reporting
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: is not only factually incorrect, but erases Jews from a
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: genocide in which six million Jewish men, women and children
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: were slaughtered, specifically because they were Jews. How's it possible, therefore,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: that on Holocaust Memorial Day, of all days, the news
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: managers to acknowledge several other groups but not Jews. Well,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: ITV issued this apology, they said in yesterday's news. That's
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the twenty seventh of January, when we reported on the
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: memorial events in Auschwitz, we said six million people were
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: killed in the Holocaust, but crucially failed to say they
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: were Jewish. That was our mistake, which we apologize for.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: It was a pretty big mistake and an apology that
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: was certainly warranted.
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: We failed to say I just forgot, I just woke
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: up that day wrote the script.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Oh I forgot that there was used in vold in Holocaust.
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: I mean seriously, And it's the worst apology you've ever seen.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: It's hardly an apology.
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: When it was read out on ere it went for
• 37:24
  Speaker 8: something like fifteen seconds.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: It was fifteen seconds worth of apology.
• 37:27
  Speaker 8: And so if you're worthy of being pointed out for
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: being Polish, and she said it with emphasis Polish disabled
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: gay belonged to another ethnic group, but there were just
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: six million ethnic which ethnic groups?
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: But six million people?
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, that has to be deliberate. That has
• 37:50
  Speaker 8: to be deliberate, and that they say, oh, it was
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: a mistake, pulled.
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: The other one while we're paying out on GMB though
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: our national broadcast that didn't even send a reporter, neither
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: ABC or SBS eightieth anniversary of the You wouldn't have
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: known to be watching the ABC.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: There you go, say no more. We're going to go
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: to a break.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: When we come back we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: including the very latest on that foiled terror plot.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: In Sydney that's coming up in just a moment. Welcome back.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's making news in tomorrow's
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: papers and Caleb of course here in Sydney, starting with
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: that foiled terror plot is the main story.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: Indeed, as you would understand, the Daily Telegraph has it tomorrow.
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: It's a caravan laden with explosives contained addresses of Jewish
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: sites primed for a massacre. The Telegraph reports that a
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: caravan laden with explosives could have been bound for key
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: Jewish targets in Sydney, in what Premier Chris Mens yesterday
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: said it was a potential mass casualty event. The Australian
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: also has it on its front page. Major escalation in
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: anti Semitic threat van bomb targeted at synagogue. The chance
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: discovery of a caravan laden with enough explosives to level
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: a forty meter blast zone and apparently intended to target
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: Jewish Australians in a mass sorry casualty event, has confirmed
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: fears of a major escalation in anti Semitic violence, with
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: Anthony Albinizi vowing the full might of Australia's counter terrorism
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: forces will be deployed to meet the threat. This was
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: New South Wales Police Deputy Commissioner Dave Hudson at a
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: press conference explaining what they had found today.
• 39:28
  Speaker 15: Obviously, the discovery and the detection of the caravan contained
• 39:32
  Speaker 15: with an amount of explosives was not known to be
• 39:37
  Speaker 15: used in the normal anti Semitic attack that we have
• 39:41
  Speaker 15: seen occur in Sydney, such as graffiti and arson attacks.
• 39:47
  Speaker 15: This is certainly an escalation of that with the use
• 39:51
  Speaker 15: of explosives that have the potential to cause a great
• 39:55
  Speaker 15: deal of damage.
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: Now, this caravan was actually discovered on January the nineteenth.
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: That's taken the better part of nineteen days for the
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: police to come out and tell.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: The public about this.
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: The story goes that a local saw the caravan on
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: the side of the road and thought it was in
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: an old place and towed it away. It was later
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: discovered what was inside. Now, of course we don't know
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: exactly what the motive was here. Of course they have
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: found a letter that has a list of addresses on it,
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: including a synagogue, but we don't know who put it there.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: We don't know.
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: Exactly why it was there. No stone is being left unturned.
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: Premier Chris Mins said today exactly how many police officers
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: have been put on this case.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: As the Deputy Commissioner has made clear, in addition to
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the detectives and the officers in Operation Pearl and Shelter,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: there is one hundred police officers through the counter Terrorism
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Command and State Crime that are focusing specifically on this threat.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: One hundred police officers.
• 40:58
  Speaker 8: So they are taking this very soon as you would
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: because it appears to be terror related to some description.
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: The question is what exactly was the aim here, because
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: I mean, it would seem highly unusual that you would
• 41:10
  Speaker 8: just leave a caravan full explosives on the side of
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: the road. So the question is was there an intention
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: perhaps for these explosives to ever end up at an address?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Was the idea that someone would find it full.
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: Of the explosives with the list of addresses and that
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: is the act of terror to put the fear into
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: people that this might happen to you. But it didn't
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: happen in this case. It is an extraordinary case, it
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: has to be said, and with one hundred police officers
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: on it, they obviously think it's a very difficult one
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: to crack too.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: There's obviously a lot of questions about this, but the
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: thing that got my attention. If you were listening closely
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: to the deputy commissioner in the grab we showed you,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: did you hear him say that the explosives in this
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: caravan represent a very different kind of attack from what
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: he said. He used these words, quote unquoe, the normal
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: anti semitic attack, and that really struck me. When you've
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: got deputy police commissioners talking about, you know, the normal
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: garden variety anti semitic attack as opposed to this one
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: with explosive shows you just where we've gotten as a community.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: When police now talk about normal antisemitic attacks, that was
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: never the case just fifteen months.
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: Ago, indeed, And I mean you just have to wonder
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: what they were playing at, but be whether or not
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: they'll actually find someone on this, I mean, you hope
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: that they do, because this is a major escalation, as
• 42:35
  Speaker 8: the paper's note in terms of the terror that has
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: been wrought. I mean, we know that graffiti in the
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: front of a building what he's calling normal anti semitic
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: attack to some degree levels an amount of terror in someone.
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: But it is one thing to wake up in the
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: morning and see that your synagogue has been five bombed,
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: or that there was graffiti put on the front of
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: it when there was no one inside. When you start
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: talking about the potential of explosion, is being sent to
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: a place and has a list of addresses on it,
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: the totality of which we do not know. We know
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: there was a synagogue on it, but it's got other
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: Jewish related addresses on it. Now, whether that's addresses, home
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: addresses or places of business, who knows, But presumably there
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: are people tonight who would be going to bed quite
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: worried about the addresses that they either live in or
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: visit every day being targeted tomorrow or in the days.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: So it's only a couple of weeks ago that Alex Ritchen,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: who all of us have formed at various times here
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: on Sky, his former home was attacked. So you're quite
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: right there would be prominent Jewish people in this country
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: who would be horrified at this year's And let's police
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: find the perpetrators.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: That the explosives were taken.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: From a mine, I believe, So yeah, maybe that give
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: police some kind of lead.
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: Well, there's a lot of minds in Australia, or it
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: wouldn't even have to be someone working there, but someone
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: who has access to the materials who's obviously through black
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: market type annals, given somebody else access to them. To
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: the front page of the career Mail, Now kill a sect.
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: Dad's shock confession, I'm happy she died. The father of
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: eight year old Elizabeth Stras, who died from being deprived
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: of insulin, told police quote, I'm happy for her end
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: quote after he was informed of her death. Jason and
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: Kerry Stras where yesterday found guilty of the manslaughter of
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: Elizabeth in the Towoomba home in January twenty twenty two.
• 44:28
  Speaker 7: Their son Zachary, and eleven other members of a religious
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: group known as.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: The Saints were also convicted. It's just one of those
• 44:37
  Speaker 6: appalling stories of literal whack jobs. Like you hear stories
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: like this and I'm like, Okay, the demons are lying
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: sideways in this one, Like who could possibly be brainwashed
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: to that extent that they're like, I'm doing the right
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: thing for my daughter while watching her die. She dies,
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: and then he's like, yeah, happy about that, and.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: They call themselves the Saints.
• 45:02
  Speaker 8: Imagine your response to your daughter dying, being that you
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: are happy for her, that she is now no longer
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: in pain and suffering, pain and suffering that you caused
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: her by refusing to give her the medical treatment she
• 45:18
  Speaker 8: was owed and due. I just don't know how a
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: person can possibly do.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: That is so disgusting.
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it absolutely is.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the front page of the Newcastle Herald
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: rate cut on cards after good news on inflation. The
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: article says interest rate relief could be on the way
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: for homeowners after underlying inflation came in below expectations, prompting
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: another big bank to bring forward its rate cut prediction.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: The annual rate fell to three point two percent, that
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: was up to December last year, and Westpac have now
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: brought forward their prediction of a rate cut from May
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: to February, which would of course please Jim Chalmers because
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: that would give the government the opportunity to call an
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: election and not have to deliver a budget in March,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: which I think they're pretty desperate not to have to do.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I'm just not sure, Caleb that a rate cut is
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: going to convince Australians that everything is well. Jim Chalmers
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: telling us we've never been better off. Yeah, I went
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: and bought some groceries today, and I can tell you
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: prices keep going up, so it's great. The inflation number
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: looks good, but my bill at the grocery store does
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: not look good.
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: I think a rate change last year would have done
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: a lot of good for the government.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think beyond going to do much too.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Late was the cry, We're going to go to a break. Sorry, color,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I was looking at you. I thought you were king
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: for the Herald time.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I look, if you want me to do your job
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: for you are going.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: To take a break.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: After the break, the most unusual car jase you've ever
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: seen occurs in the UK.
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: You'll like it. That's coming up in just a moment. Okay.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Nothing sums up the state of modern Britain better than
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: this next story. English police were called on to apprehend
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: a shoplifter who made her get away in a wheelchair.
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: Now you'd think the police would, you.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Know, run after her on foot, But no, no, they
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: got in their cop car and they went full lights
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and sirens after the woman in the wheelchair.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: Take a look what is going on?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: The lucky she didn't say anything hateful. They would have
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: had the swat team, you know, throway to the ground.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: But the most amazing part of that is not the
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: the car chase and the wheelchair. It's the fact that
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: English coppers bothered to arrest someone for shoplifting at all.
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: Imagine if someone had been, you know, praying in their
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: head quiet, you.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Know, that wheelchair would have been right over for heaven.
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: If they posted on social media buggy wheelchair, they would
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: have pushed you out of it.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: For goodness, Say, now, how's this right? A woman goes.
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: To Luke Colmbs concert in Brisbane. Luke Holmes is a
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: current popular country music singer. She was having the time
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: of her life. This is before he even got up
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: on stage. This is the support act. She is literally
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: in a Barry manilo. When he's saying about dancing in
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: the aisles, well, she is literally dancing in the aisles.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: And for this she was ejected from the concert. Take
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: a look. I mean it was that blokes lucky day.
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: There.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: She was dancing right in.
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: Front of him, wanted him to get right into it,
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: and for that she gets kicked out. Now, I'm sorry
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: if you can't go to a concert and dance around
• 48:59
  Speaker 8: to the music because you are having a great time.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: What what the hell have we come to.
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: If you can't dance at a concert, where can you dance?
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: This is rubbish?
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Absolutely would you recommend? The security guard says, hey, settle down.
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: That's not the time to turn.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Around and twirk all over. And it's the time that's
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: calmly take your seat.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: But look around. Who next to her was upset? I
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: couldn't see you. There. We've got to go.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: That's stick around. Coming up is the readA Penny Show.
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: Good Night,