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- 0:00Welcome to the One Small Change Podcast. I can't believe it's time again
- 0:04this week, and I am thrilled to embark on this journey of
- 0:07exploration and transformation with you. And I'm glad you're taking time to join
- 0:11me too, because I'm your host, Yvonne McCoy, and I bring almost 30 years
- 0:15of entrepreneurial experience and a passion for discovering
- 0:18growth through the power of seemingly small change.
- 0:22And every week, I try to bring somebody interesting and new to talk to
- 0:26you so that you can learn from their experience. And
- 0:30this week, we are speaking with Brandi Cox.
- 0:34Brandi, thank you so much for being here. I'm so
- 0:38excited. So tell everybody what you do and what was
- 0:41it that made you decide that's why you were going to do
- 0:45it and be good at it? Well, thank you for having me.
- 0:50So I was a big corporate leader and a huge global
- 0:53conglomerate, and I actually became disabled.
- 0:57So I'm a disabled combat vet. And when
- 1:01I became disabled, I started, like, trying to figure out what
- 1:05to do with myself because couldn't just sit around watching TV all the time.
- 1:09So I started looking at entrepreneurs, solopreneurs, coaches,
- 1:13business owners, small business owners. And I quickly
- 1:17realized that there's absolutely no support
- 1:21to. No structural support, softwares,
- 1:24processes, anything for small businesses.
- 1:28And so what we are done. What we have done is we have tried to
- 1:31wing it. And I was like, hey, I used to
- 1:35do this for huge global conglomerates. Why don't I give you guys my
- 1:39expertise and my processes and the things that I know how to do?
- 1:43And so that's where it began. So
- 1:47when you were, what. What would you say is the
- 1:51biggest thing that entrepreneurs, especially solopreneurs, if
- 1:55they're coming out of corporate, have to deal with?
- 1:59They. When you come from corporate, you have a
- 2:03lot of structure. There's HR, there's management,
- 2:06there's processes. There's usually, like, somebody in charge
- 2:10of office supplies, you know, whatever. Everybody's in charge
- 2:14of everything. And so what solopreneurs do is
- 2:17they look at it and they go, I now have to do all of this.
- 2:21And that's the number one reason why solopreneurs fail.
- 2:27So. So, okay.
- 2:31You're right. I mean, you know, I mean, it's like, wait,
- 2:34I thought I had somebody to do this, and I don't, and that would be
- 2:37me. Right? And so one of the things you say is
- 2:41you have three steps solopreneurs can use to scale with
- 2:45ease. So do you want to talk about those? And. And I have to tell
- 2:48you, the word clone kind of puts my teeth on
- 2:52edge a little bit. But I want to hear your explanation
- 2:56first. Well, the idea of the talk of clone yourself
- 2:59was because we all sometimes wish, oh my gosh, I wish there was
- 3:03two of me, right? I just, I wish I had more hands.
- 3:07And so what I do is I sit down with the person and
- 3:11I go, okay, what do you wish your day looked like? What are you
- 3:14stuck doing? So like, what is it you're stuck in the middle of? You're
- 3:18mired in the mud of, you know, can't see the forest for the trees.
- 3:22And then let's get all of that off your plate. So keep you focused on
- 3:26what you do best. So my tagline for 10 plus years has been you
- 3:29do what you do best, we'll do the rest. And
- 3:33so the number one thing we do is figure out what are you doing that's
- 3:36not your revenue generating activity, that's not your genius zone.
- 3:40Let's put that on the hands of somebody else, whether it's a
- 3:44software, whether it's a process, delegating,
- 3:47outsourcing, whatever that looks like and
- 3:51get that off your plate so you can stay focused on what you do. Because
- 3:55when you step away from that revenue generating activity, you are losing
- 3:58money. There are no big businesses, real
- 4:02businesses, we sometimes like to think of them as, that are doing their own
- 4:05stuff. Dell doesn't do their own communication and
- 4:10customer support and tech support. Microsoft doesn't do their own
- 4:13tech support and customer support. Like these
- 4:17companies don't do it themselves. Why are we doing it ourselves? And the
- 4:21only reason why is because we don't know any better. We don't, we haven't been
- 4:23taught any better. So we think we have to do it all ourselves.
- 4:27And I'm like, there's a million different ways to get this done. We don't have
- 4:31to do it all ourselves. There's lots of ways we can use
- 4:34software to automate things or delegate
- 4:38part time project base or just outsource to another company altogether.
- 4:43Well, The reason, The reason that I said when I, when you say clone yourself,
- 4:47it makes me, makes my kids go this way is
- 4:51because I, I used to coach women executives of non
- 4:55profits and they would say to me, I just need someone just like
- 4:58me. And I wanted to say, you're a mess.
- 5:02You don't need another mess. You need somebody that's going to take up the
- 5:06stuff that you're not good at. So
- 5:10you don't want to clone. You want some people with diverse skills.
- 5:15But I think One of the things that I find.
- 5:19With solopreneurs is they
- 5:23don't realize that it's a team
- 5:26effort. If you're subcontracting to somebody,
- 5:30if you're using a system, you're kind of like that.
- 5:34That's part of your team. Right. And
- 5:38when your team is working well, good things are going to
- 5:42continue to happen on a consistent basis. And I
- 5:46actually experienced this the other day when
- 5:50this message just really hit me in the face really hard.
- 5:54I. I did a summit, and in my brain, I thought, well, I'm doing the
- 5:57summit. I'm not going to do my monthly workshop. But I didn't tell anybody
- 6:01that, Right. And so, you know, the first
- 6:05day I gave out the link with the date in it for
- 6:08the next month, and people went, this says August.
- 6:12Right. And the next day I had an affiliate say, I'm so
- 6:16excited to promote your workshop this week. And at the end of the second
- 6:19day, I had over 20 people registered. And it was like, oh,
- 6:23things are working really well. I'm the problem,
- 6:28right? Because I'm thinking that I'm still, you know, doing my own thing.
- 6:31So when you said that there are three steps that
- 6:35solopreneurs can take, what do you want to talk to us about those?
- 6:39So one of the first things that we do, like I said,
- 6:43is we sit down and we figure out what those systems need to look like,
- 6:46Whether that's a process or software, what that needs to
- 6:50look like to get it off your plate so we can consolidate all of that
- 6:53into, you know, a plan. So it's between
- 6:57building systems, delegating and outsourcing,
- 7:01getting all of those things off your plate. So
- 7:05that is so important because. If you are
- 7:09carrying everything around in your own head. Yep. You don't
- 7:13really have a business. I mean, you can't. Nobody
- 7:17can replicate what's in your head unless you put it somewhere, someplace
- 7:20else. And I think. I think, whoops.
- 7:24I think what people don't realize all the time is that.
- 7:29Having a process and a system
- 7:32make sure that you have consistent quality and.
- 7:36And believe it or not, people do leave, leave their jobs and stuff
- 7:40like that. So if you've got somebody who. Who has put together a system for
- 7:43you and not put it on paper, they're walking out the door with
- 7:47your business. They are. We see that happen
- 7:51every day. Somebody, you know, a solopreneur, will hire a
- 7:54VA and this VA is in charge of all of the things,
- 7:58and they have no idea. They just tell this va, go do this. And then
- 8:02that VA gets a better job or has to quit their
- 8:06job for some reason or, you know, what have you.
- 8:09And then all of a sudden they have no idea how their business runs anymore
- 8:13because that VA was handling everything. Yeah. And like, that's one of
- 8:17the first things that we do is we make that continuity book. We make that
- 8:21the standard operating procedures so that anybody
- 8:24can hop in and work on something. They have all of the step
- 8:28by step instructions, whether it's screenshots or software or whatever we need to
- 8:32do to make sure that that happens, but they need to
- 8:36have, so that anybody can just pop in, do that job
- 8:39and pop out. And so like when I'm working
- 8:43with my team and my staff and we're, because we're an
- 8:47outsourced company, we have a staffing agency and everything. And so when
- 8:51we're working with a client, that's one of the first things that I do. And
- 8:54I make sure that, yes, this might be your, you
- 8:58know, your head, part of my team that you're working with, but any of
- 9:01my team can pop in and do that job. If that person's out sick, if
- 9:05that person has to quit for any reason, I
- 9:09need to be able to make sure that everything's got continuity
- 9:13because otherwise then I'll be the problem with your business.
- 9:17Yeah. So, okay, so systems and processes. What's the
- 9:21next thing, the delegation and how that
- 9:24looks and what that looks like? Not necessarily like,
- 9:28oh, I'm just going to put this on their plate. Delegation has a whole.
- 9:33Set of rules to it. You can't just go here, do this, and then
- 9:36micromanage them or, you know,
- 9:40get upset because it's not done right because they don't have the right instructions. There's
- 9:43a, there's an actual process to delegation. And so working with the
- 9:47business owner to make sure that they're completely aware
- 9:51of what delegation looks like, how that works, what's the best
- 9:55process, what is the method to
- 9:59communicate? And so that's, you know,
- 10:02it's really hard to get something out of your head and into the head of
- 10:06somebody else if you don't know how to do that. So that's one of
- 10:09the things we work with people about. So this is like one of my
- 10:13favorite things. And so just very
- 10:16briefly, I just want to add that when you are working
- 10:20with a subcontractor, you are delegating. Right.
- 10:24And so you have to be really clear
- 10:28about what it is that you want. And, and I always say to people, you
- 10:31know, typically they say, delegate, automate, eliminate.
- 10:35I, I think you should go about it the absolute Opposite direction.
- 10:39Because otherwise you were just taking the crap on the top of your
- 10:42pile and saying to somebody, do it. And, and, and it goes
- 10:46back to the process. Because if somebody doesn't give you the results you
- 10:50want before you go, what's wrong with them? You go,
- 10:53you need to go, was there a process? Did they know the process?
- 10:57Did they follow the process? Does the process need to be changed,
- 11:02you know, and updated? Then you go to them, right?
- 11:06Because if you tell them, if you don't give them enough
- 11:09instruction or there's not enough resources for them to do the
- 11:13job correctly, it's not their fault. Right?
- 11:17And, and I look at delegation, I say to people, you know, you think of
- 11:21delegation as just giving people stuff to do. I think of delegation as
- 11:24training. You're training people to take on an important part
- 11:28of your business. Okay, so I got that off my chest. So
- 11:32what's the third thing? Well, the third thing
- 11:36is we also talk to people about true outsourcing,
- 11:40which is not just delegating to internal staff
- 11:43and stuff like that, but outsourcing to a whole team of experts where
- 11:47this is their genius zone, this is their specialty. So
- 11:51they're going to be able to give you advice instead of you pushing
- 11:55this is the way it's done. They can actually say, hey, this
- 11:59is a better way because that's their expertise,
- 12:02that's their revenue generating activity, their genius.
- 12:06And so that's what people don't realize is like you can just assign something to
- 12:10a va and that's different from outsourcing to a company that's going
- 12:13to take that task over completely. And so
- 12:17that's, there's a very clear distinction there. And a lot of people
- 12:21kind of melt, know, merge them and meld them. And I'm
- 12:25like, when you are treating
- 12:28somebody like, you know, quote, unquote, staff, you
- 12:32treat them differently than you would a expert consultant.
- 12:36And so you as a business strategist, you know that when you come in
- 12:40and you're helping somebody, you have, this is a
- 12:43recommended method, a best practice. And they sometimes
- 12:47have their own understandings of how the world works. And
- 12:51you're like, no, really, this is the better way. And so
- 12:54that's a completely different process. And so that's where we like to say,
- 12:58okay, depending on what your needs are, you might delegate, you
- 13:02might outsource or you might automate. You know, it depends
- 13:05on what you need. And so that's, that's something
- 13:09where our expertise is just
- 13:13like yours is to help them, guide them to the best
- 13:16thing that's going to work best for them. And I. I think the other
- 13:20part to this that makes life even more crazy is
- 13:24nothing is standing still. No. You know, and
- 13:27so a solution that worked maybe a year and a half ago
- 13:31maybe doesn't work as well now or won't get to where you're
- 13:35going. And I think.
- 13:39This is just. You know, again, I've had really good conversations
- 13:43with people today. They fit all my. All my hot buttons. But I
- 13:47don't know why people are so resistant to
- 13:50listening to other people's ideas. You know, and
- 13:54so when I teach delegation, I say, this is what I was.
- 13:58This. First, I start with what. What the end result is. This is what I'm
- 14:01trying to accomplish, and this is how I would do
- 14:05it. And then I say, do you have any better ideas? Or what
- 14:09are your thoughts? Or how would you do it? Right.
- 14:12Because sometimes their idea is so much
- 14:16better than mine based on their expertise, whether it
- 14:20is. You know, just. How do we put something simple together? I mean,
- 14:24I'll never forget when I was working in a tax office,
- 14:27and it was like we. We were, like, really short on space, and.
- 14:31And, you know, it was like, all these people are like, where are we gonna
- 14:34put this? You know, I mean, it was like this big thing, and the receptionist
- 14:38came in and said, you could put it behind this door.
- 14:43And we're like, no. And she's like, yeah. And I'm like,
- 14:47this shelf would not fit. There she goes, yeah, I measured it. It would.
- 14:51Perfect solution in less than five minutes. And
- 14:55all of these people with their brain cells are trying to figure it out. I
- 14:58mean, I always say One of the best things about doing exit interviews
- 15:03or when new people come to work for you, even though you think that
- 15:07the question is silly, you need to take time and listen to
- 15:10it, because there's something that triggered it. And if you get the same question
- 15:14every single time from new people, there's something you're not training
- 15:18on or not telling them. I mean, it's a huge sense
- 15:21of information, and I think we get. You know, it's like, I'm
- 15:25the boss for the first time. I. You know, whatever it is.
- 15:30Okay, so those are three things. That's fantastic.
- 15:35You said you brought a gift. I did.
- 15:39So I. It's like Christmas. Yay.
- 15:46I actually have a free download of my chapter
- 15:49in Wired to Win book, and
- 15:53so I am giving that out to everybody who wants
- 15:56the free. My free chapter on how to, you know, go from
- 16:00vision, stop being the VA and start being the visionary, and
- 16:04how to scale. This is something that I really want to share on The Small
- 16:05Change Podcast. So fantastic. Give that away to
- 16:08everybody. I'm so excited about that because I think, I
- 16:12think, you know, when, when I first started coaching, one of the
- 16:15things I said was, do you find that
- 16:19at the, that you've been busy all day long, and at the end of the
- 16:22day, all the projects that only you can do are still sitting on your desk,
- 16:27then you need to do something, you know, then you need to change that, because
- 16:30you're not putting your gifts where they're supposed to be.
- 16:34And so I think that that is a great gift for anybody
- 16:39who's listening to this. And I want to make sure you guys, you know,
- 16:42you're going to find the link in the, in the chat,
- 16:46in the, in the notes, and so you definitely need to do
- 16:50that. Okay, so, all right, I'm going to ask you, before we run out of
- 16:53time, when was the last time you did something new for
- 16:57the first time? Well, doing
- 17:00podcasts. So I, I, this
- 17:04isn't really where I feel the most comfortable. And so
- 17:07I am autistic, and I struggle with communication
- 17:11sometimes, and because I think and talk like a
- 17:14computer. And so I was like, okay, I need to start working on
- 17:18this, because this is something that's going to help move my business forward. So I
- 17:22needed to get out here and start doing it. And
- 17:26action makes perfect. So the
- 17:29more that I come out and the more that I talk, the more confident I
- 17:33feel, the more clear I am, and the more
- 17:37I feel like it's not as scary because I'm out here doing
- 17:40it. And what's the worst that can happen? What's the worst that could happen? They
- 17:44can't take away my birthday. So I was like, you know what
- 17:47the worst that happens is? I feel like a fool. And you know
- 17:51what the best thing that could happen is? It moves my business forward. So, so
- 17:55I want to say congratulations. And one of the things I say all the time
- 17:59is. You need to feel
- 18:02uncomfortable. Right? And the other thing that,
- 18:06that, you know, I find is if I don't have some
- 18:09flutters in my stomach about something I'm going to do,
- 18:13it means I don't care. Right? You know, because
- 18:16it's like, if I care about it, it's like, I, you know, did I do
- 18:20what? You know, am I prepared? Am I going to be able to really connect
- 18:23with the audience? Am I going to be able to do this? If I'm talking
- 18:27to a client, it's like, okay, let me see. I know they're resisting
- 18:30this. How do I help them work through it or whatever. And I always
- 18:34had that, like, you know, if I'm like,
- 18:38you know, I'll just wing it. It's like, no big deal. It's like, that's the
- 18:42signal to my brain, I don't care. You
- 18:46know, and it's like, why do I not care? And if I don't care, is
- 18:49this something that's really going to move my business? Am I really doing this for
- 18:52the right reason? Maybe I should step aside on this.
- 18:56So, first of all, I want to tell you I think that it's wonderful that
- 18:59you're feeling uncomfortable and you're doing it, and you did it wonderfully.
- 19:03The other thing I would say that I can't help. This is the second
- 19:07time this has happened in, like, three days. Is
- 19:11turning. Talking about learning styles. And I think that
- 19:15entrepreneurs need to know a little bit about
- 19:18learning styles because we don't all learn the same way.
- 19:22And I am a highly visual person.
- 19:26I mean, I'm, I, I'm. I had trouble
- 19:29reading as a kid, and. I could almost
- 19:33memorize the books. I mean, I don't have a photographic memory or anything like that,
- 19:37but when I need to find information, I can close my eyes and
- 19:41go, where did I see that? You know, my husband is
- 19:44highly auditory. I mean, it is.
- 19:48It is like ships moving in the night. I mean, I'll say to. If he
- 19:52loses something, I'll go, where was the last place you saw it? And he just,
- 19:55like, looks at me like, huh. But if I say him, what were you listening
- 19:58to on the, you know, were you on your AirPods? Were you on your favorite
- 20:02speakers? Were you. You know, then he gets it. You know,
- 20:06it is so. It is so weird. And so part of that delegation
- 20:10process, or if in terms you're doing sales, it
- 20:13is really important that you understand what your style is,
- 20:17because that's your natural go to. But be able
- 20:21to expand that for other people, you know, whether it's giving a
- 20:25different kind of example or whatever to help
- 20:28your client or your employee or your, you know, to get what it
- 20:32is that you're doing. So this has been my. This has been my week of
- 20:36people with all kinds of learning kinds of things, myself included.
- 20:39Okay, so before we run out of time, I. I got to do
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- 21:02do that by trying to bring as many different kinds of people as I can
- 21:05with their stories and the things that they can do to help you
- 21:09so that you will be able to grow your business, pick and choose, and
- 21:13have experiences that you might not otherwise have. So I
- 21:17hope you'll continue to follow me and listen to The One Small Change
- 21:20Podcast. And if you haven't done it yet, you should listen to the first episode
- 21:24or to one of the quarter clarity check-in calls
- 21:28that I do where I talk about what's happening in the quarter and
- 21:31what trends are coming up.
- 21:39Stop being your own VA and get back to being your own
- 21:43visionary. I like it. I like it a lot.
- 21:48All right, guys, we've run out of time. We could talk a lot
- 21:51more about some of my favorite topics. But I want you to
- 21:55remember, change can be simple, but it's not always easy. And it
- 21:58takes courage, resilience, and a willingness to step out of your comfort
- 22:02zone. And like we said, if you really care, you're gonna, you know, feel a
- 22:06little butterflies in your stomach. And, you know, what I know
- 22:09is if you are not feeling uncomfortable, you're not
- 22:13growing. If you're not growing, you're actually stagnating because
- 22:17the world is moving forward with or without you. So I hope
- 22:20you will continue to join me for The One Small Change Podcast, and together
- 22:25we can build big visions and innovative possibilities. Until
- 22:28then, stay very curious.
- 22:32Brandi, thank you so much for giving us your thoughts and stuff.
- 22:36Oh, so happy to be here. Bye.