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The Muster Full Show: 07/10/27 · The Muster on Hokonui

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon and welcome to the muster on Hokonui. Andy
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Speaker 1: Muir here until 2 o'clock. Of course, the show is
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Speaker 1: brought to you by the team at Peters Genetics on
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Speaker 1: a hump day that sees overcast skies over the main
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Speaker 1: street of Gorse, sitting on 17 degrees currently. We'll have
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Speaker 1: a look at the forecast sooner than later, but interesting
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Speaker 1: as well, just hearing on the news in regarding New
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Speaker 1: Zealand forests, the list has come out and Jason Herrick,
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Speaker 1: of course, formerly of Federated Farmers, put himself forward as
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Speaker 1: a candidate for Southland, number 17. So the countdown to
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Speaker 1: the election is well and truly underway. Just a reminder
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Speaker 1: from Beef and Lamb New Zealand as well, the spring
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Speaker 1: shouts continue this evening. They're at the Three Rivers Hotel
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Speaker 1: at Wyndham from 5 o'clock onwards. And tomorrow they're at
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Speaker 1: Brunnel Peak's Cafe at Blackmount and South Otago TNC. in Balclutha,
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Speaker 1: and then Friday wrapping up at the Waitiripu Hall at Waimumu's.
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Speaker 1: So nothing needed, just come along, have a catch-up, a chinwag,
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Speaker 1: something to eat, something to drink, and that's thanks to
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Speaker 1: the team of Beef and Lamb. Music today is a
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Speaker 1: bit more abstract, I suppose. This is madness. Oh, they
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Speaker 1: get so paid for work. Some of these songs you'll
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Speaker 1: know more than others, I'll be honest. But if you've
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Speaker 1: been to the UK, this is a massive group over there.
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Speaker 1: This afternoon, showers developing with breezy nor'easterlies and 18. Thursday,
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Speaker 1: cloudy with breezy easterlies, 6 and 16. Friday, sunshine with
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Speaker 1: calm variable winds, 7 and 21. Saturday, thunderstorms developing later
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Speaker 1: on with calm variable winds as well, 8 and 21 again.
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Speaker 1: And Sunday, looking very dapper. Sunshine with light nor'westerlies, 8
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Speaker 1: and 22. No sword temperatures to speak of, so I'll
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Speaker 1: grab another bit of paper. Here it is. We're getting
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Speaker 1: underway this afternoon with David Stevens, Deer Farmer at Netherdale,
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Speaker 1: just out of Balfour. Sam Grant of Craig's Investment Partners
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Speaker 1: is on the program as well. We looked at the
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Speaker 1: GDT last night, solid re-rise there, which will be appreciated
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Speaker 1: by the dairy sector. Don Morrison, that is, farming out
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Speaker 1: at Willowbank. We have a regular catch-up with Howie to
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Speaker 1: see how things are going. Not far away from tailing
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Speaker 1: by the sounds of it. Mitch Cooper of Dairy NZ's
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Speaker 1: on the show and Leo Pecker of FarmWise with a
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Speaker 1: webinar that's happening this evening with a couple of notable
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Speaker 1: names here and offering information regarding the current situation too.
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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see what's involved there. Mark
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Speaker 1: Calder of PGG Wrightson gives a rundown on the Balclutha
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Speaker 1: sale that was held this morning. Then we'll crank into
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Speaker 1: the show very shortly with David Stevens. This is The
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Speaker 1: Muster brought to you by Peters Genetics. It's seven after one.
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Speaker 1: David Stevens is a deer farmer at Netherdale, just out
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Speaker 1: of Balfour. He's been a long-time correspondent on Hokanui Radio
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Speaker 1: as such, going back into the early 90s of Jamie Mackay.
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Speaker 1: And we thought, well, it's about time he had his
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Speaker 1: own intro music. So about a year ago, David, you
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Speaker 1: got Thunderstruck as your lead-in. So firstly, good afternoon.
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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Andy. Yep, that revved you up a bit,
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Speaker 2: didn't it?
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Speaker 1: How's everything been? Certain areas of Northern Southland have been
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Speaker 1: wetter than others, I understand.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yes. It's been a shocker, actually. I mean, last
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Speaker 2: week's been great. A bit of growth and a bit
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Speaker 2: of warmth. But, no, it's been pretty challenging for those
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Speaker 2: that have been lambing and calving. Underfoot, it's just a shocker, actually.
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Speaker 2: I understand when you go further south, It's even worse. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, when you see ewes and lambs that are black,
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Speaker 2: it's not a good sign at all and pretty challenging. But,
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Speaker 2: you know, we've had some good days the last bit
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Speaker 2: overcast today. But, you know, good days and temperatures are
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Speaker 2: rising just looking at the forecast. Looks as though we're
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Speaker 2: up around that close to 20 most days. That's a
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Speaker 2: big improvement, and things will come right.
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Speaker 1: From a deer farming perspective, what's the big issues at
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Speaker 1: the moment?
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Speaker 2: Well, obviously, we're about to get into velveting. It's a
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Speaker 2: wee bit later down here. This season just hasn't been
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Speaker 2: warm enough, really. I think just talking to deer farmers,
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Speaker 2: you know, the velvet's a wee bit later. But in
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Speaker 2: some ways, that's not a bad thing. Often those earlier
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Speaker 2: heads don't have the weight in them, so it's... better
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Speaker 2: to get the buttons off a wee bit later and
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Speaker 2: get that growth with a bit more weight. So that
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Speaker 2: won't do any harm. And just on the velvet side
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Speaker 2: of it, Southland Deer Farmers Branch ran a workshop at
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Speaker 2: PGG Wrightson's in Vicargill on velvet grading, and quite a
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Speaker 2: number of people arrived. And Tony Cochran, he's the head
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Speaker 2: man for velvet and Wrightson's, he was there. And John Fogarty,
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Speaker 2: John buys quite a bit of velvet himself. And so
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Speaker 2: it was very good, actually. It really explained the new
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Speaker 2: gradings at the right time of the year, too. So
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Speaker 2: people understood before they started cutting. So whereas last year,
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Speaker 2: we had a bit of a problem with that issue. But,
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Speaker 2: you know, the same old questions were asked. You know,
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Speaker 2: what prices are going to be for this season?
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Speaker 3: And.
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Speaker 2: The talk is around about that $ 100, but I did
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Speaker 2: a bit of a workout and looked back, Andy, at
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Speaker 2: what $ 100 means. And when you look back, I went
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Speaker 2: back 19, 20 years, back to 19, I think it
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Speaker 2: was 1997, and we were getting much the same, probably
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Speaker 2: more than that actually. It was a wee bit of
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Speaker 2: a lift in 97. But even at $ 100 back then,
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Speaker 2: you've got to be getting an average of $ 160 now.
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Speaker 2: to be in business. And what's changed is the buyers now,
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Speaker 2: or the processors and market, don't want those big heavy heads. And, well,
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Speaker 2: they'll discount those big heavy heads. They will take them. But,
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Speaker 2: you know, that opportunity to keep lifting your velvet weights
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Speaker 2: every year, we've lost that. And when I look back
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Speaker 2: to what we had here in 97, between 97 and 2023,
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Speaker 2: we lifted our velvet weights on the herd here by 72%. Now,
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Speaker 2: that kept us in business, and I would suggest that
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Speaker 2: a lot of farmers were exactly doing exactly the same thing.
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Speaker 2: So if you're unable to actually, you know, sell those big... Well,
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Speaker 2: you get a discount on those big heads, you're in
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Speaker 2: a situation where, in the future, you don't have that ability. So,
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Speaker 2: you know, I really... I think that.
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Speaker 2: The price has got to be around that $ 160 at
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Speaker 2: least for average. So that means your top end, really,
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Speaker 2: you're looking at $ 200.
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Speaker 1: Now, Velvet's had its issues over the previous couple of seasons, David.
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Speaker 1: Is there genuine fear for the industry if these prices
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Speaker 1: don't improve?
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Speaker 2: I think so. I think what we're looking at, Andy,
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Speaker 2: is people on class land that's sort of class 1
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Speaker 2: to 4 will have to have a serious look at...
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Speaker 2: whether they continue velveting and then whether they swing towards
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Speaker 2: the venison side more so. I know a lot of
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Speaker 2: it as commodities, you look at supply and demand in 1997,
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Speaker 2: I think, the figure was around about that 500 tonne
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Speaker 2: to shift. We actually in the last couple of years
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Speaker 2: certainly went over 1,000 and even slightly higher than that.
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Speaker 2: but I think this season we're going to be looking
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Speaker 2: at sort of around that 800, 900 tonne, and I
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Speaker 2: think that that's probably going to be a sweet spot
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Speaker 2: as far as going into the market. Really, I think
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Speaker 2: that people will be looking at that and saying, well,
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Speaker 2: hang on, we should be getting a hell of a
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Speaker 2: lot more than what we are at the moment, and
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Speaker 2: if we don't, we'll look at other options, and there
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Speaker 2: is other options out there.
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Speaker 1: Regarding Velvet, is it realistic to deviate into other markets
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Speaker 1: apart from the status quo?
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, they've moved into, there's a market going
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Speaker 2: into Vietnam now, so, you know, it's quite a, it's
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Speaker 2: a new market. It's one that we've got access into now, so,
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Speaker 2: you know, there is opportunity there, so it'll be interesting
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Speaker 2: to see just what sort of, pricing goes into that market.
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Speaker 2: It's new, so it'll be interesting just to see what
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Speaker 2: happens there. But no, the traditional markets are South Korea
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Speaker 2: and China. The Chinese buy most of the velvet, and
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Speaker 2: quite a considerable amount of that actually is processed and
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Speaker 2: goes back into South Korea. So yes, it'll be interesting
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Speaker 2: to see what comes out of the season. And when
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Speaker 2: you look at it like that, those figures, I mean,
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Speaker 2: if If you look at $ 100 now, I mean, if
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Speaker 2: you continue at that sort of average for another 10 years,
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Speaker 2: it's only going to be a purchasing value of about $ 60.
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Speaker 1: Regarding the venison schedule, whenever I speak to yourself or
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Speaker 1: Peter Allen, it's always a topic of hot conversation. What
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Speaker 1: are we hearing at the moment? Like $ 12, is that
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Speaker 1: on the table?
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Speaker 2: Yes, yep, no, I understand that. I see published at
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Speaker 2: the moment around about that $ 11.
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Speaker 5: 50 average.
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Speaker 2: But contracts I'd imagine around about that $ 12 and I
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Speaker 2: think it go fairly reasonably strong right through into the autumn.
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Speaker 2: It's just that supply is not there and that volume.
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Speaker 2: So it'll certainly be, it'll hold up. And unless it's
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Speaker 2: something unusual, you wouldn't know in the world these days.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I think Andy... 12 bucks is, yeah, certainly.
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Speaker 2: And hopefully going into the autumn, it's sitting up around
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Speaker 2: close to 11. It would certainly help things. I think
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Speaker 2: the other thing, too, that's happened over the last season
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Speaker 2: or two is there's been a huge number of mixed-age
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Speaker 2: velveting stags go through the system. So obviously I don't
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Speaker 2: know whether that'll happen. Well, it'll depend a bit, I suppose,
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Speaker 2: on just what I've been talking about. the price of
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Speaker 2: velvet per kilogram. And if it's not feasible for people,
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Speaker 2: you know, business-wise to continue, they certainly will be going
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Speaker 2: through the works.
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Speaker 1: Now, David, a couple of things you want to comment
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Speaker 1: on here regarding communication, but especially with fertiliser going on
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Speaker 1: with helicopters at the moment due to ground conditions, a
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Speaker 1: couple of issues.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, just observation, Andy. You know, with this season
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Speaker 2: being so wet, a lot of people are putting... furt
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Speaker 2: on with the choppers at the moment. Just an observation.
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Speaker 2: You know, there's been the odd complaint about choppers going
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Speaker 2: over the top of properties, swinging across over the top
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Speaker 2: of properties when there's a velvet herd in underneath them.
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Speaker 2: And you'll obviously realise that that's pretty low. And also
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Speaker 2: lammy mobs. And I think there's got to be some
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Speaker 2: responsibility taken here. Some of the... helicopter pilots need to
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Speaker 2: look at themselves a bit or companies because you can
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Speaker 2: do a couple of rounds of the property prior to
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Speaker 2: doing that. And, you know, there's been the odd complaints.
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Speaker 2: So I just thought I'd put it out there, you know,
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Speaker 2: a bit of a responsibility there, thinking of your neighbour. And,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's not hard to do. So I just
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Speaker 2: thought I'd mention that.
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Speaker 1: It's an interesting one, given we haven't had this situation
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Speaker 1: for October, where bulkies can't get into the paddocks, I suppose.
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Speaker 1: So it's almost a case of the unknown for a
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Speaker 1: lot of people in that instance.
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Speaker 2: That's right, yep. No, it's something to think about, because
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Speaker 2: you don't want broken legs or broken velvet heads or
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Speaker 2: using lambs all mixed up or whatever. So it's just
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Speaker 2: something to consider and think of others. So I just
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Speaker 2: thought I'd But I've seen the– I've actually had firsthand experience.
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Speaker 2: I know where we're going with this. So it's all
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Speaker 2: very well letting people know that you're going to be
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Speaker 2: doing it. It's a case of actually making sure you
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Speaker 2: don't swing across other properties. And in some cases it's
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Speaker 2: impossible to do, but in most cases you can actually
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Speaker 2: avoid it.
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Speaker 1: David Stevens, always appreciate your time on The Muster.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Andy.
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Speaker 1: David Stevens, a well-respected voice in the New Zealand dairy industry,
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Speaker 1: been doing it for over 40 years now. This is
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Speaker 1: The Muster on Hokanui. Up next from Balfour, we are
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Speaker 1: travelling back down here to Gore and catching up with
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Speaker 1: Sam Grant of Craig's Investment Partners. Sam Grant of Craig's
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Speaker 1: Investment Partners joins us once again. G'day, Sam.
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Speaker 6: It's probably a song you haven't heard before. No, I
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Speaker 6: don't think it is, to be fair, Andy.
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Speaker 1: One step ahead by madness. If you were curious, but nonetheless,
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Speaker 1: we catch up with the team from Craig's Investment Partners
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Speaker 1: on a regular basis, straight off the bat. Touch on
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Speaker 1: this very quickly, the GDT, another solid little rise last night.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was indeed. So, you know, looking good as
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Speaker 6: we sort of get into the main part of the
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Speaker 6: dairy season. You know, I think it'll be obviously nice.
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Speaker 6: for our farmers out there, if we continue that sort
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Speaker 6: of strong commodity pricing that we've seen last season, I
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Speaker 6: hope red meat holds up as well this coming season.
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Speaker 1: 1.2% rise last night, well appreciated. Something that isn't appreciated
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Speaker 1: though when it rises is regarding interest rates. These are
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Speaker 1: still starting to go, they're still going one way I suppose.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, in markets, the sort of
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Speaker 6: biggest talking point of theme has been sort of AI,
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Speaker 6: but we have sort of seen a bit of a
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Speaker 6: shift now to sort of a lot of commentary and
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Speaker 6: talk around rising interest rates. So I've started to see,
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Speaker 6: particularly in New Zealand and around the world as well,
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Speaker 6: is sort of a bit of a push, a bit
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Speaker 6: more of a push with sort of higher oil inflation
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Speaker 6: coming back and those inflationary pressures increasing. Coming back to consumers,
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Speaker 6: you know, we're seeing it in oil prices at the moment.
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Speaker 6: And then, as a result, we've seen monetary policy around
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Speaker 6: the globe sort of pushing towards higher interest rates and
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Speaker 6: definitely noticing it here in New Zealand. And I think
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Speaker 6: the key thing at the moment is the story's kind
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Speaker 6: of shifted to some, you know, when rates will come
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Speaker 6: back down to sort of maybe how long they're going
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Speaker 6: to stay up. So, yeah, it could be here for
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Speaker 6: a wee bit longer, unfortunately.
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Speaker 1: Whether you fix or you float, it's the same old question, really,
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Speaker 1: but how long's a piece of string?
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, absolutely. And, you know, obviously for a lot of
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Speaker 6: people it's a pretty major input cost, their sort of
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Speaker 6: interest payment. So any material change to that does sort
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Speaker 6: of affect the bottom line.
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Speaker 1: Now something else as well, you talk about going up,
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Speaker 1: it's the AI boom. It just keeps going up one
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Speaker 1: way and just almost stratospheric in some instances.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's still seen a very strong impact. push
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Speaker 6: in the sort of AI thematic I think the big
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Speaker 6: thing for us and what we're seeing is it's not
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Speaker 6: entirely tied to software companies you know you've particularly when
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Speaker 6: you're sitting down with clients, you know, those sort of
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Speaker 6: tech companies are sort of high growth, potentially at the
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Speaker 6: sort of risk you're in, but what we are finding,
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Speaker 6: or what you can find, is there's a lot of
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Speaker 6: potential to sort of get exposure to AI thematic throughout
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Speaker 6: the supply chain. So whether it's in things like construction,
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Speaker 6: if you kind of think of like the data centre build-out,
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Speaker 6: all the sort of resource that needs to go into that,
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Speaker 6: and the sort of companies or industries that are affected
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Speaker 6: by that, as well as just the whole sort of
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Speaker 6: supply chain network effectively.
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Speaker 3: So.
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Speaker 6: So when you think of the AI investment and AI thematic,
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Speaker 6: there's a lot more to it than just software companies effectively,
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Speaker 6: or tech companies.
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Speaker 1: Is there that big a correlation between AI investment and
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Speaker 1: supply chains?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, to a point, not to the same degree as
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Speaker 6: you'd find in things that are a lot more commoditised,
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Speaker 6: like your dairy and your red meat and your fuel,
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Speaker 6: but yeah, effectively Probably more so in sort of the
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Speaker 6: infrastructure build-out. So, you know, obviously having to get resource
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Speaker 6: and supplies with data centers are being built. Yes, we're
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Speaker 6: very reliant on supply chains.
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Speaker 1: The election cycle's kicked off, the first of the leaders'
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Speaker 1: debate last night, but we're not talking about that today.
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Speaker 1: It's all about the uncertainty around New Zealand at the moment. Now,
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Speaker 1: it's probably not a correlation there, but the way the
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Speaker 1: Kiwi dollar just seems to be getting weaker by the day.
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Speaker 1: Does this all stem back to our uncertainty with politics?
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Speaker 1: Is there a correlation?
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Speaker 6: It'll be a plain part, but from an international perspective...
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Speaker 6: you tend to see a bit of a sell-off in
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Speaker 6: the New Zealand dollar when there's a bit of volatility. So, yeah,
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Speaker 6: I think with sort of US elections and what the
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Speaker 6: sort of scope is going to be there in the
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Speaker 6: US is probably having just as much an impact as given,
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Speaker 6: you know, there isn't, polls aren't clear which way things
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Speaker 6: are going to end up. It would be a little
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Speaker 6: bit of that. And I suppose there's always the risk
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Speaker 6: of what the final government would look like. You know,
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Speaker 6: minor parties are, polling quite well comparatively and sort of
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Speaker 6: the two major parties of National Labour sort of arguably
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Speaker 6: combined sort of polling quite low historically so you're probably
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Speaker 6: looking at a coalition government again with at least three
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Speaker 6: parties potentially it could be four in some cases.
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Speaker 1: Tom Schellard making the observation a couple of weeks ago
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Speaker 1: that an OCR raise is on the cards just prior
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Speaker 1: to the elections so monetary policy comes into it a
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Speaker 1: bit more too.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah. And what we do tend to find is
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Speaker 6: things like interest rates and monetary policy have a much
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Speaker 6: stronger impact on markets than election results. Markets do tend
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Speaker 6: to look through elections quite a bit, or at least
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Speaker 6: the election result. Companies tend to have a much longer
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Speaker 6: view than three years.
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Speaker 1: Well, you wait with interest or abate of breath over
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Speaker 1: the next four to six weeks, Sam. Now, Craig's Investment Partners,
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Speaker 1: how do people get in touch?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so either give us a call on 209-0153 or
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Speaker 6: come visit us at 10X Street opposite New World.
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Speaker 1: Good on you, Sam. Always good to catch up.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 6: Peace out, Andy.
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Speaker 1: Sam Grant of Craig's Investment Partners based here in Gore,
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Speaker 1: opposite New World. You're listening to The Muster. Up next,
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Speaker 1: it is Don Morrison farming at Willowbank. Welcome to the
19:39
Speaker 1: House of Fun. Welcome to the House of Fun.
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Speaker 7: Welcome to the life.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the muster on Hakanui, the house of fun,
19:54
Speaker 1: the less debatable. The group is Madness. Our next guest
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Speaker 1: will know all about them, Don Morrison, farming out at Willowbank. Howie,
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Speaker 1: good afternoon. You'll be all over these guys like a rash.
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Speaker 4: Kia ora, Andy. Yeah, I know some of their music.
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Speaker 4: And actually, my wife, Bridget, she's a big Madness fan
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Speaker 4: from her varsity days back in London. So, yeah, know
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Speaker 4: that they're touring this year. And, hey, it's a house
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Speaker 4: of fun. It's a different ballgame when the sun shines,
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Speaker 4: isn't it?
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Speaker 1: It is a different ballgame. Just quickly back to Madness, though.
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Speaker 1: You would have been a fan of the young ones
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Speaker 1: on TV, Neil, Vivian, Rick and Co, and Madness always
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Speaker 1: seemed to pop up as the band during the episodes.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely. That was when I was at Lincoln at Varsity, Andy,
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Speaker 4: and it used to be Friday night down to the
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Speaker 4: Carlton and then back to Munster Palace to... to watch
20:44
Speaker 4: the young ones on TV. Must have been 10 or
20:46
Speaker 4: 11 o'clock it was on, I think.
20:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're starting to show your age now, but I'll
20:50
Speaker 1: take your word for it. I was sitting there, I
20:51
Speaker 1: think it was about form three, watching it on video
20:54
Speaker 1: because it was on too late for me. But nonetheless,
20:56
Speaker 1: like you say, it's a changer with the weather. It
20:59
Speaker 1: certainly puts everything in a bit more of a context
21:03
Speaker 1: at the moment.
21:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, a different world, Andy, and we get a
21:06
Speaker 4: few good days. Animals are happy, things are drying up,
21:09
Speaker 4: and it's just got a nice feel. It's... Not going
21:12
Speaker 4: to say we're going to forget that bit of rubbish
21:15
Speaker 4: we went through in September, but, you know, you can
21:17
Speaker 4: put it out of your mind a bit and get
21:19
Speaker 4: on with the job now.
21:20
Speaker 1: A lot of areas struggling with feed covers at the moment.
21:23
Speaker 1: Where's your base there, Howie? Can you see a recovery
21:26
Speaker 1: going on there? The ground's getting through at the worst
21:28
Speaker 1: of it?
21:29
Speaker 4: Oh, look, it's going to be slow, so obviously there's
21:33
Speaker 4: going to be impacts on growth rates, which will impact
21:35
Speaker 4: right through to weanings and... But, yeah, the grass is growing.
21:40
Speaker 4: We've got a couple of paddocks with the hogget blocks.
21:42
Speaker 4: The hoggets are just sort of moving around that have
21:44
Speaker 4: been saved. And there's some grass, like a paddock with
21:48
Speaker 4: ewes and lambs that's been growing, but they've just been
21:50
Speaker 4: eating it as fast as it'll grow.
21:52
Speaker 1: Just a state of play at the moment. But you're
21:54
Speaker 1: not changing anything based on the way the spring's been
21:57
Speaker 1: to date?
21:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to. I was too, yeah, a bit
22:02
Speaker 4: greedy this year in how many area of crop we
22:05
Speaker 4: put in for the winter grazing. Cut it back a bit.
22:08
Speaker 4: where we'll be just elevating it a bit next year.
22:12
Speaker 4: You know, when you rely on those really heavy yields,
22:14
Speaker 4: which we've been getting, and you just can't quite always
22:18
Speaker 4: guarantee them. So, yeah, that put us under pressure. There
22:21
Speaker 4: was a lot of things we got wrong in management.
22:23
Speaker 4: You know, we didn't really have the feed we needed,
22:26
Speaker 4: and we went in really tight. Anyone who drives past
22:29
Speaker 4: will see that in their covers. But we got a
22:32
Speaker 4: bit right historically, and that's the shelf that we've got
22:34
Speaker 4: on the platform. and I guess the emphasis we've put
22:37
Speaker 4: on lamb survival in our breeding programme through the last
22:42
Speaker 4: 25 years, Andy, it's probably been one of our biggest
22:44
Speaker 4: selection tools with our animals as far as repeatability and heritability.
22:50
Speaker 4: Animals we use, breeding values we don't sell or keep
22:54
Speaker 4: or advocate using anything that's got a negative BV for
22:57
Speaker 4: lamb survival, and I think it probably... got us out
23:00
Speaker 4: of jail this year. So while we had some losses,
23:03
Speaker 4: it's actually not going to be a bad lambing. We
23:05
Speaker 4: start tailing tomorrow, and I would say we'll still have
23:08
Speaker 4: a pretty good number of lambs.
23:10
Speaker 1: Interesting you say that, but particularly regarding the crop, do
23:14
Speaker 1: you think that rationale is based on the spring that
23:16
Speaker 1: we endured? And if it was, say, a better spring
23:19
Speaker 1: that we've been accustomed to in the past, then crops
23:22
Speaker 1: wouldn't come into it, putting extra in for next season?
23:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it always goes back to Andy. If
23:28
Speaker 4: you've got that little bit of extra crop, you can
23:30
Speaker 4: keep animals on another week or 10 days if you've
23:32
Speaker 4: got that option. And whether it's a good year or
23:35
Speaker 4: a bad year, that's really good. Because in a good year,
23:39
Speaker 4: you can actually just be putting condition on with that
23:41
Speaker 4: fodder beet. You can really have that grass ahead to
23:44
Speaker 4: put them straight onto and lamb. And when you've got
23:47
Speaker 4: a bad season, gee, you really needed it this year. So,
23:49
Speaker 4: you know, we paid the price. We just put a
23:51
Speaker 4: couple of hectares in less. two more hectares of fodder
23:54
Speaker 4: beet would have fed a lot of animals for another
23:57
Speaker 4: week or 10 days.
23:58
Speaker 1: As far as tailing, like you say, tomorrow, how long
24:01
Speaker 1: does that take to get over and done with?
24:03
Speaker 4: Well, we've just started lambing the hogget, so we sort
24:05
Speaker 4: of do a hogget round. We've got a young girl, Eleanor,
24:08
Speaker 4: who's doing all the hoggets, but we'll be there to
24:10
Speaker 4: help her out. And we'll just get out about 9 o'clock.
24:14
Speaker 4: We do about 1,000 a day, you know, 1,200 or
24:17
Speaker 4: 1,300 if we sort of rock into it a bit,
24:19
Speaker 4: but it's just the team here working away. But we're
24:22
Speaker 4: really just going to start on the older, we'll get
24:24
Speaker 4: the older lambs done this week, the early lambing ones
24:27
Speaker 4: from August, and then probably kick into it in a
24:30
Speaker 4: bigger way next week.
24:31
Speaker 1: So those earlier lambs, they would have taken a check
24:34
Speaker 1: with the weather, I'd imagine?
24:37
Speaker 4: The earlier lambs were okay, because we actually lambed them
24:40
Speaker 4: on the hoggart blocks and had good feed, saved the
24:42
Speaker 4: feed that we'd normally allocate to them, and then pushed
24:45
Speaker 4: them over. So no, they're actually looking okay. It's probably
24:48
Speaker 4: more Just some of the September lambs that got that check.
24:52
Speaker 4: You know, there's what the storm kills, or the weather kills,
24:56
Speaker 4: and then there's what the mud, you know, takes its
24:59
Speaker 4: toll on. So you drive around and, you know, you're
25:01
Speaker 4: still picking up the odd dead lamb from some form
25:04
Speaker 4: of infection. So those bearer paddocks, that's what you've got
25:08
Speaker 4: to deal with.
25:09
Speaker 1: You've had the shearers in earlier on today doing the
25:12
Speaker 1: ram hoggets. The wool industry is an interesting one at
25:15
Speaker 1: the moment. It ebbs and flows. It's very much a
25:17
Speaker 1: Manhattan skyline of prices. A correction a couple of weeks ago,
25:21
Speaker 1: but still, Howie, when you look at the industry as
25:24
Speaker 1: to where it was and to where it is now,
25:26
Speaker 1: it's a plus.
25:28
Speaker 4: Well, I can look back to the price 30 years
25:30
Speaker 4: ago when I came back from overseas, Andy, and say
25:33
Speaker 4: that we're not even anywhere near that price but certainly
25:36
Speaker 4: in terms of where we've been the last four or
25:38
Speaker 4: five years, yeah, it actually feels quite positive. You know,
25:42
Speaker 4: we were very happy with the prices we got last year,
25:46
Speaker 4: around that $ 5, $ 6, because it means you're making a
25:48
Speaker 4: little bit of money from your sharing, and, of course,
25:50
Speaker 4: when you've got that great lamb price that we're getting
25:52
Speaker 4: at the moment, you know, every extra bit per kilo
25:57
Speaker 4: certainly adds up with the wool. So these, we're only
26:00
Speaker 4: sharing the ram hoggets, the sale ram hoggets, Andy, so
26:02
Speaker 4: we're not sharing them to... to make some money. It's
26:04
Speaker 4: just for the presentation as we get ready for the
26:07
Speaker 4: sale season, sort of end of November and then on
26:09
Speaker 4: through the summer.
26:11
Speaker 1: Now, of course, Howie, you're an Alliance Board Director until recently.
26:15
Speaker 1: Looking at the lamb schedule going forward, and logic suggests
26:19
Speaker 1: it's not going to go below a 10.
26:23
Speaker 4: I've certainly heard that. I think what you're dealing with
26:28
Speaker 4: is the reality of some pretty strong international markets at
26:31
Speaker 4: the moment. and then we're going to have the same
26:34
Speaker 4: old procurement pressure that has existed for the last number
26:37
Speaker 4: of years. So it'll be meat companies chasing animals they
26:41
Speaker 4: may not want to, and they'll have a market price
26:44
Speaker 4: they're prepared to pay, and then there'll be maybe a
26:46
Speaker 4: little bit extra that they're going to have to pay
26:48
Speaker 4: to source animals, and of course that eats into margin,
26:51
Speaker 4: but I believe the margins are reasonably solid at the moment.
26:54
Speaker 1: Do you think there's still a concern, though, that overcapacity
26:57
Speaker 1: in the red meat industry hasn't been addressed in New
26:59
Speaker 1: Zealand properly?
27:01
Speaker 4: No, that overcapacity still exists and it's probably been masked
27:04
Speaker 4: by the stronger prices that all the processors have been
27:10
Speaker 4: able to get in the market. But no, overcapacity is
27:13
Speaker 4: still there and that really comes down to, you know,
27:17
Speaker 4: each individual processor has to look at what its capacity
27:20
Speaker 4: is and, you know, see what they do. So I
27:23
Speaker 4: know from that experience in close Smithfield, it was the
27:26
Speaker 4: right thing to do. It added profit to the bottom line. And,
27:30
Speaker 4: you know, it's tough because it's 400 or 500 jobs
27:34
Speaker 4: in Timaru that aren't there any longer. But the company
27:38
Speaker 4: has to make the right decision around that capacity. So, yeah,
27:41
Speaker 4: that issue is still there, Andy, and I'd suggest it's
27:45
Speaker 4: still a big issue.
27:46
Speaker 1: So you wouldn't be surprised to see another procurement war
27:49
Speaker 1: this season?
27:51
Speaker 4: Um... Yeah, well, I think you'll get a procurement war
27:54
Speaker 4: at some stage. When you say a procurement war, it's
27:57
Speaker 4: just that competition effect. I suspect you're going to see
27:59
Speaker 4: that right from the start of the season. With the
28:02
Speaker 4: spring we've had here, animals are going to be low.
28:06
Speaker 4: Processors are going to want to get throughput. They're going
28:08
Speaker 4: to have commitments they've got to meet in terms of contracts.
28:12
Speaker 4: So I think all it might do is keep that
28:14
Speaker 4: schedule price reasonably high in the first part of the
28:16
Speaker 4: season anyway.
28:18
Speaker 1: Just finally, the All Blacks Wallabies at Eden Park. The
28:21
Speaker 1: All Blacks haven't lost to Australia there since 1986. We
28:25
Speaker 1: just look at the other figure, haven't lost at Eden
28:26
Speaker 1: Park full stop since 1994 to France. This game will
28:30
Speaker 1: be an interesting one, especially the return game over in Aussie.
28:33
Speaker 1: This Wallabies team, you feel like they're building some confidence?
28:37
Speaker 4: Absolutely, they're building some confidence. Under Kiss, they've had four
28:41
Speaker 4: or five wins in a row, and that was a
28:43
Speaker 4: very good performance. win they've had i look at some
28:46
Speaker 4: of the league converts they've got over and they're bringing
28:48
Speaker 4: over i think they'll only get stronger i think we're
28:51
Speaker 4: probably uh under you know the competitive nature of it
28:55
Speaker 4: we're underestimating the positive um that we picked up from
28:58
Speaker 4: that south african tour so there's a lot of experience
29:01
Speaker 4: a lot of hard rugby i think the all blacks
29:03
Speaker 4: are actually going to go into this um into this
29:05
Speaker 4: test well prepared and i don't probably have the concerns
29:09
Speaker 4: that um that others do, or that I'm hearing in
29:13
Speaker 4: the media, and I think we're well prepared for it.
29:16
Speaker 1: Good on you, Howie. Always appreciate your time.
29:19
Speaker 3: Cheers, Andy.
29:19
Speaker 4: Look forward to next time.
29:22
Speaker 1: Don Morrison, based at Willowbank. You're listening to The Muster,
29:25
Speaker 1: up next from Dairy NZ, Mitch Cooper. Welcome back to
29:35
Speaker 1: The Muster. Mitch Cooper of Dairy NZ joins us as
29:38
Speaker 1: we catch up with the team on a week basis.
29:41
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Mitch.
29:42
Speaker 4: Welcome. Yeah, thanks.
29:43
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.
29:44
Speaker 1: Look, we've had a hell of a spring down here
29:46
Speaker 1: in Southland. We've had a bit of respite from the
29:48
Speaker 1: weather over the past week or so, Mitch, but there's
29:51
Speaker 1: still a lot of challenges that lay ahead.
29:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, tough going.
29:55
Speaker 7: You know, one of the biggest issues, obviously, is, you know,
30:00
Speaker 7: the sun's shining a little bit now and things will
30:02
Speaker 7: hopefully start turning around pretty quickly when it comes to feed. But,
30:06
Speaker 7: you know, I've had a good period of time where
30:07
Speaker 7: it's been pretty challenging to feed your cows to, you know,
30:11
Speaker 7: where you'd want to be feeding them at this time
30:13
Speaker 7: of year. And unfortunately, that ends up with a bit
30:16
Speaker 7: of a knock-on effect normally on your mating period, I think,
30:20
Speaker 7: is where we see, you know, a lot of the
30:23
Speaker 7: big issues come up. flowing on from that.
30:26
Speaker 1: So that's a big concern at the moment regarding mating?
30:29
Speaker 7: Yeah absolutely and I think that's probably where a lot
30:32
Speaker 7: of people were going to need to make the biggest
30:34
Speaker 7: interventions you know whether or not it's milking frequency or
30:38
Speaker 7: sort of disease risk and things.
30:39
Speaker 5: Like that.
30:41
Speaker 7: There's so much you know so much right on mating
30:44
Speaker 7: in the calendar year and following a period of pretty
30:48
Speaker 7: rough weather you often will see pretty poor repro seasons
30:52
Speaker 7: but there are a few things you can sort of
30:55
Speaker 7: tweak to try and improve that.
30:57
Speaker 1: I like that saying, the toolbox. It no longer applies
31:00
Speaker 1: to the four-wheeler. It's about the top three inches being
31:03
Speaker 1: applicable as well. So based on that, what's a couple
31:06
Speaker 1: of things to point out?
31:08
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think, you know, it's worthwhile, I guess,
31:11
Speaker 7: considering the cow as a whole, right? She's had a
31:14
Speaker 7: period of negative energy balance, and what that normally leads
31:18
Speaker 7: to is a bit of ketosis, where they can't sort
31:20
Speaker 7: of quite proportion their energy in the right places. And
31:25
Speaker 7: that normally increases disease. The biggest disease issues we see
31:31
Speaker 7: following ketosis are usually endometritis or dirty cows, and it
31:35
Speaker 7: can impact their ability to cycle. So I think one
31:38
Speaker 7: of the big intervention things that people can do, and
31:41
Speaker 7: obviously we're pretty close to mating, so sooner rather than later,
31:45
Speaker 7: is checking for dirty cows and treating quite early and
31:49
Speaker 7: aggressively and making sure they've got that as well under
31:51
Speaker 7: control as possible. But one of the big, big things
31:56
Speaker 7: you can sort of manipulate at this time of year
31:59
Speaker 7: to try and get some of the energy balance back
32:02
Speaker 7: and swinging the right way is considering once a day
32:06
Speaker 7: milking or sort of just generally reducing milking frequency, whether
32:10
Speaker 7: that's three and two or whatever works for an individual farm.
32:14
Speaker 7: It can be a little bit challenging because you've probably
32:17
Speaker 7: just had a period of reasonable mastitis conditions and whether
32:22
Speaker 7: it doesn't make for You know, it doesn't make cell
32:24
Speaker 7: counts easy to manage, but, you know, general consensus and
32:27
Speaker 7: all the data shows us that once a day for
32:31
Speaker 7: young cows and anything that's lost a bit of condition
32:34
Speaker 7: or anything sort of higher risk through that mating period
32:38
Speaker 7: can make a massive improvement in their repro success. You know,
32:43
Speaker 7: much better reception rates, much better six-week and calf rates,
32:45
Speaker 7: much better submission rates. and often guys will find that
32:49
Speaker 7: they can get those cows back up to twice a
32:51
Speaker 7: day following mating, so it's sort of, you know, like
32:53
Speaker 7: a short-term hit in a little bit of milk production,
32:57
Speaker 7: but for hopefully quite a significant long-term gain. You know,
33:01
Speaker 7: those are some of the, probably the big tools that
33:03
Speaker 7: people can use as, you know, really sort of aggressive
33:07
Speaker 7: match checking, really sort of considering what you want to
33:10
Speaker 7: do with your milking frequency, as long as your cell
33:12
Speaker 7: count allows it.
33:14
Speaker 1: Mitch, what are your thoughts around boosting supplement levels in
33:17
Speaker 1: the milking parlour at the moment?
33:19
Speaker 7: Yeah, not a bad idea. You know, again, when you're
33:22
Speaker 7: struggling to feed cows in general, you often end up
33:25
Speaker 7: with a bit less supplement going in. So worthwhile considering
33:31
Speaker 7: boosting things up for a little bit and maybe checking
33:33
Speaker 7: the cows, you know, getting some blood tests done and
33:35
Speaker 7: just seeing sort of where your trace elements are sitting.
33:37
Speaker 7: You may find you probably need a little bit more
33:39
Speaker 7: selenium than you otherwise would or a bit more B12
33:42
Speaker 7: or cobalt than you otherwise would. at this time of
33:44
Speaker 7: year when they've been sort of really battling through. So worthwhile,
33:48
Speaker 7: you know, checking a few things and getting on top
33:50
Speaker 7: of a few things as early as you can. You know,
33:53
Speaker 7: the earlier you make these interventions, the better impact they have.
33:57
Speaker 1: Mineral deficiencies, is that a realistic prospect at the moment?
34:00
Speaker 6: Yeah, could well be, yeah. There'll be, you know.
34:05
Speaker 7: lots of challenges in that aspect. And obviously guys probably
34:08
Speaker 7: would have had a heck of a time getting mag
34:10
Speaker 7: into their cows and calcium for anything that's sort of,
34:12
Speaker 7: you know, really late calving or whatever you're having to
34:17
Speaker 7: give depending on your calving mating dates.
34:20
Speaker 6: But yeah, you know.
34:23
Speaker 7: sort of try not to teach people to suck eggs,
34:26
Speaker 7: but it's very much about sort of being as aggressive
34:28
Speaker 7: in that recovery as possible, as early as possible, makes
34:32
Speaker 7: such a big difference in the coming months and for
34:35
Speaker 7: the rest of the season.
34:37
Speaker 1: How are farmers dealing with the situation based on what
34:39
Speaker 1: you're hearing there at Dairy NZ as such?
34:43
Speaker 7: I think overall, you know, the mood, especially since the
34:46
Speaker 7: sun's come out, the mood seems to be bouncing back
34:49
Speaker 7: pretty well. You know, obviously there's been quite a few
34:51
Speaker 7: guys that have been hit pretty hard, but what we
34:54
Speaker 7: hear from the guys in the region is, I think,
34:59
Speaker 7: overall pretty positive as far as how people are coping.
35:04
Speaker 7: You know, I think people are a little bit sort
35:05
Speaker 7: of stressed and overworked, obviously, but as long as we
35:10
Speaker 7: see a bit more sun, hopefully the you know, the
35:12
Speaker 7: worst of it's behind us anyway.
35:14
Speaker 1: It's all about looking at the long term, I suppose,
35:16
Speaker 1: and making a plan?
35:18
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, and that's why I sort of, I guess,
35:20
Speaker 7: beat the drum so hard about, you know, really focusing
35:24
Speaker 7: on what you can do, you know, ASAP before mating
35:29
Speaker 7: because the flow and impacts of a poor mating period,
35:33
Speaker 7: you know, you'll obviously have some issues issues with animal
35:37
Speaker 7: health and milk production following a pretty weak period, but
35:40
Speaker 7: the flow-on impacts of a bad mating period is so
35:43
Speaker 7: significant that it's really important to just say, right, we've
35:47
Speaker 7: had this happen, what can we do to make mating
35:49
Speaker 7: as successful as possible? Do we need to really aggressively
35:53
Speaker 7: get on top of our non-cycling cows? Do we need
35:55
Speaker 7: to consider once a day? Do we need to look
35:58
Speaker 7: at some of our animal health things and really get
36:00
Speaker 7: on top of our trace elements and all these sorts
36:03
Speaker 7: of things?
36:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot there to put into perspective, Mitch. Thanks
36:05
Speaker 1: for your time.
36:07
Speaker 7: Yeah, no worries.
36:11
Speaker 1: Mitch Cooper out of Dairy NZ with some tools. For
36:14
Speaker 1: the toolbox as such, the top three inches. Before we
36:17
Speaker 1: wrap up, Leo Pecker, you're listening to The Muster. MUSIC
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Speaker 1: they're actually coming to New Zealand next year, playing in Christchurch.
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Speaker 1: what Madness is all about. Speaking of madness, there's been
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Speaker 1: madness with the weather over the past couple of months
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Speaker 1: down here in the south, but there's a webinar online
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Speaker 1: tonight to help you get over that funk, if you've
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Speaker 1: the team at FarmWise, Doug Avery and Cain Briscoe, two
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Speaker 1: to join in tonight. Good afternoon, Leo. Thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Andy.
37:27
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
37:29
Speaker 1: So this webinar tonight, I suppose there's been lots of
37:31
Speaker 1: events happening over the past couple of weeks. We've talked
37:34
Speaker 1: about what's going on with the beef and lamb events
37:36
Speaker 1: and et cetera, but you guys sort of know we
37:38
Speaker 1: need to delve into this a bit more and get
37:41
Speaker 1: a bit more support going.
37:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to see support from the wider industry,
37:45
Speaker 3: you know, because farmers have been pushed left, right and centre.
37:50
Speaker 3: It's been a really, really tough month to deal with for,
37:53
Speaker 3: you know, anyone looking after stock, not only dairy farmers
37:57
Speaker 3: but sheep farmers as well. And, yeah, we wanted to
38:00
Speaker 3: help somehow. We've been supporting our clients and doing calls
38:04
Speaker 3: and everything we can. But we thought, like, look, this
38:07
Speaker 3: has been a huge event. We come across a lot
38:10
Speaker 3: of people that are under a lot of pressure, and.
38:12
Speaker 6: It can be overwhelming.
38:13
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I got in touch with Doug and Kane,
38:16
Speaker 3: and they've been so helpful and keen to, you know,
38:20
Speaker 3: donate their time to just be on a very positive
38:23
Speaker 3: event and talk about, you know, what can we do
38:27
Speaker 3: as a community and talk about some of their experiences
38:30
Speaker 3: and share a little bit about, you know, what farmers
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Speaker 3: have been through. So we're going to have just a
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Speaker 3: quick update on, you know, what we see from the
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Speaker 3: perspective of consultants. We're going to have Simon Hopcroft as
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Speaker 3: well from Rural Support Trust, and he's going to give
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Speaker 3: us a short debrief on, you know, what the industry
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Speaker 3: has been doing and some issues that people are asking about.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, most of the event will be about Doug
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Speaker 3: and Kane spinning a yarn, having a conversation. It'll be
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Speaker 3: a little bit of an interview or yarn style. It's
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Speaker 3: not going to be a presentation. And we're going to have,
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Speaker 3: you know, opportunity to take questions from the chat.
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Speaker 1: Mitch Cooper was on the show just before from Dairy
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Speaker 1: NZ talking about the physical side of farming leading into mating.
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Speaker 1: But we can't reiterate enough about looking after the top
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Speaker 1: three inches as it's referred to.
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Speaker 3: Oh, definitely, definitely. And it's been so tough. You know,
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Speaker 3: it's been a huge workload. Everything takes long.
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Speaker 6: And more effort.
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Speaker 3: There's been a little, you know, very little time off,
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Speaker 3: especially for the people making the decisions. And in my experience,
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Speaker 3: we've been making calls, you know, to support farmers. And
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Speaker 3: some people get overwhelmed, you know. And when you're overwhelmed,
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Speaker 3: you lose sleep. And the decision-making is not the best. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, this is why it's so important just to
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Speaker 3: have a bit of a catch-up, you know, talk to
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Speaker 3: your neighbors, do something, you know, get outside of a farm,
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Speaker 3: you know, take a haircut, do something else to gain perspective,
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Speaker 3: because a lot of people you talk to, they think
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Speaker 3: they're in the worst hole they've ever been, but they
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Speaker 3: never left the farm. When they go for a drive,
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Speaker 3: it's like, oh, I'm actually not too bad. You know,
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Speaker 3: so just hopefully get a bit of a feeling of,
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Speaker 3: you know, community engagement and listen to something positive, gain
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Speaker 3: a few tools and on how to deal with this
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Speaker 3: pressure because it hasn't been easy. I've been driving around
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Speaker 3: the province quite a lot and done a few miles.
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Speaker 3: And on the nice days, you know, when the sun
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Speaker 3: comes out, you can see the cows lying down and
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Speaker 3: catching up and, you know, on resting time and lying time.
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Speaker 3: And the animals, you know, they've been furious. They were
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Speaker 3: not happy. And there's very little options, you know, on farmers'
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Speaker 3: hands to change that. And that's really, really frustrating for people, eh?
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Speaker 1: I suppose it's a big thing once the weather settles
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Speaker 1: down and you get to take a bit of perspective
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Speaker 1: on what's going on and looking forward and just getting
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Speaker 1: a plan together. That's the big one.
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Speaker 3: Oh, definitely. Because when you have something to look forward to,
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Speaker 3: you know, and then you get your eyesight outside of,
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Speaker 3: you know, the predicament that you're currently in and it's like, well,
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Speaker 3: actually there is a way out and we're lucky that
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Speaker 3: the forecast is looking much better and much drier now.
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Speaker 3: And we've still got three weeks ahead before mating for most. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, we've still got a really good opportunity to get,
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Speaker 3: you know, back on our feet and do the things
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Speaker 3: that we really want to be doing, farming, you know,
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Speaker 3: feeding our animals and looking after stock.
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Speaker 1: Now, the webinar tonight is called From Mud to Momentum.
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Speaker 1: Doug Avery, of course, author of The Resilient Farmer, and
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Speaker 1: Cain Briscoe with his book being Tools for the Top Fetish.
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Speaker 1: It's just about getting a couple of ideas to share,
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Speaker 1: if nothing else, I suppose. So getting on there and
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Speaker 1: just listening to what these guys have to say, because
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Speaker 1: they've been there, done that. That's the big thing, really,
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Speaker 1: isn't it?
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. They've been helping people, and they've gone through
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Speaker 3: a lot, and a lot of introspective personal experience that
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Speaker 3: they can share with us. And those books are amazing,
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Speaker 3: and those guys are some of the best we have
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Speaker 3: in the industry, I think. I've been lucky to enjoy
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Speaker 3: a few conversations with them, and every time you listen
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Speaker 3: to what they have to say, you feel compelled, and,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's quite inspiring, really.
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Speaker 1: So how do people log on tonight, Leo? What do
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Speaker 1: they need to do?
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Speaker 3: Go into Facebook and browse FarmWise. There's an event that
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Speaker 3: has been created with a link to the webinar. The
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Speaker 3: webinar is absolutely free, and it's not going to be...
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Speaker 3: I know, you know, FarmWise is quite... strongly related with
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Speaker 3: dairy farming, but any farmer, you know, anyone who can
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Speaker 3: join and get something.
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Speaker 6: Out of it.
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Speaker 1: Good on you Leo, thanks for your time and this
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Speaker 1: is just an example of options being put out there
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Speaker 1: for farmers to collaborate, get their ideas together and have
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Speaker 1: a bit of a reboot I suppose as they look
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Speaker 1: forward to the rest of the farming year. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: it's going to be a doozy of a webinar tonight,
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Speaker 1: thanks for your time.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely Andy, thanks for your time as well and what
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Speaker 3: you're doing is absolutely important. I A lot of people
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Speaker 3: listen to you, and they take a break at lunch
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Speaker 3: from all the work. And, yeah, it's quite good to
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Speaker 3: have you on the radio.
43:16
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Speaker 1: Anyway, that's us over in Dunworth for your hump day.
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Speaker 1: Stock selling action occurred at the Balclutha sale yard this morning,
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Speaker 1: thanks to PDG Rights, and Mark Calder was on the
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Speaker 1: ground to give us a rundown on prices yet again.
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Speaker 4: G'day, mate.
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Speaker 1: How did we go?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, g'day Andy, we're pretty good here at Bowclother again today.
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Speaker 5: A slightly bigger yard than we've had in the last
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Speaker 5: couple of weeks, but prices remain strong with the dollar
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Speaker 5: up there. Getting into the prime lambs, big heavy prime
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Speaker 5: lambs are $ 320 to $ 350. Your good mediums still fetching
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Speaker 5: good money at $ 280 to $ 300. And then your lighter renders,
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Speaker 5: your Ford stores, would you say, were anywhere from $ 170
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Speaker 5: to $ 240 today. That was sort of us in the
44:36
Speaker 5: store department today.
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Speaker 8: Getting into the prime ewes, a.
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Speaker 5: Few more wet-dry ewes starting to come through. Big, heavy
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Speaker 5: ewes there, affection 270 to 320. Your good medium's still
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Speaker 5: selling well at 220 to 260, and your lightery ewes
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Speaker 5: done a bit tougher, anywhere from 140 to 190. Still
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Speaker 5: good money at that.
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Speaker 8: Had a few lots of ewes with lambs at foot
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Speaker 8: in today. Big, heavy ewes with good black-faced lambs at foot,
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Speaker 8: anywhere from 150 to 155. And yeah, lottery news, still
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Speaker 8: selling very well at $ 130 to $ 140. A handful of
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Speaker 8: rams in today, they were $ 70 to $ 110.
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Speaker 5: And next Wednesday is our second spring sale here at Balcoota.
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Speaker 5: So be sure to get in touch and come down
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Speaker 5: for a look. That's all for us at Balcoota.
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Speaker 6: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: I'll send you off.