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NBA Legend Steve Kerr and Brady United want Safer Gun Legislation · Get Real with Jim Weiss

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Speaker 1: I'm Jim Weiss, chairman and founder of Real Chemistry, and
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Speaker 1: this is the Get Reel with the Chairman podcast. In
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Speaker 1: this episode, I'm joined by two superstar game changers, Steve Kerr,
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Speaker 1: head coach of the Golden State Warriors and the coach
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Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four Olympic gold medal winning team USA,
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Speaker 1: and Christian Haynes, chief Programs and policy officer.
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Speaker 2: At Brady United.
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Speaker 1: Steve's leadership extends far beyond the basketball court, as he
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Speaker 1: is a champion of gun health and safety after losing
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Speaker 1: his father to gun violence.
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Speaker 2: Like coach Kerr, Christian.
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Speaker 1: Lost a parent and almost lost another one to gun violence,
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Speaker 1: which led him on a mission to create a new
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Speaker 1: cultural mindset about guns. Join us on October seventeenth at
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Speaker 1: the Chase Center for an event co hosted by coach
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Speaker 1: Kerr and DoorDash CEO Tony Schue to support the work
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Speaker 1: of Brady United, which has been a force for change,
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Speaker 1: saving lives and reframing gun violence as a public health crisis. Today,
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Speaker 1: we give you a preview of what you'll see at
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Speaker 1: the event and discuss how we can all make our
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Speaker 1: communities a little healthier and safer. Well thanks, for being here, everybody.
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to have you both on this podcast
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Speaker 1: of mind. We talked to really the healthcare industry, and
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Speaker 1: that's my primary audience, so that might be a little
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Speaker 1: bit different than what you're all used to. I know, coach,
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Speaker 1: you're probably talking about Olympic choices and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: I saw Jim Beheim a couple of weeks ago. He says, hello,
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Speaker 1: had great things to say about you. I'm at Syracuse, Brad,
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Speaker 1: so I've gotten to know him over.
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Speaker 2: The past couple of years.
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Speaker 1: He's a much happier guy now that he's retired.
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Speaker 2: Yeah he loves it. Yeah, he's so happy. But look,
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Speaker 2: how the heck.
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Speaker 1: Does a guy who's completely focused on basketball his whole
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Speaker 1: life end up on a podcast talking about a fundraiser
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Speaker 1: coming up in and around the issue of guns safety.
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Speaker 1: Obviously your story is somewhat well known, but how'd you
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Speaker 1: fall in.
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Speaker 2: With this Brady crowd? And why are we here? From
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Speaker 2: your perspective?
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Speaker 3: Good question for people who don't know. I lost my
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Speaker 3: dad to gun violence when I was eighteen. He was
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Speaker 3: fifty two. It was an act of terrorism. He was
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Speaker 3: a prominent American in big route at the time. He
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Speaker 3: was president of the American University and was assassinated outside
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Speaker 3: of his office and obviously devastating for my family and me.
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Speaker 3: The way I got involved with Brady, March for Our Lives,
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Speaker 3: S Gifford's other groups is that we were having moments
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Speaker 3: of silence at Warriors games. This was about eight or
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Speaker 3: nine years ago, and we had about three in a
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Speaker 3: row over the period of about six weeks, So every
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Speaker 3: two weeks we're doing this moment of silence. By the
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Speaker 3: third one, I was like, this is all we're going
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Speaker 3: to do. I mean, it's a nice thing to do,
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Speaker 3: but for God's sakes, we got to do something more.
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Speaker 3: So I brought it up unprompted in the basketball podcast
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Speaker 3: that I was doing and quickly realized I was going
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Speaker 3: to get a lot of pushback and that what I
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Speaker 3: needed to do, like with anything, if you're going to
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Speaker 3: speak out, is I needed to learn more, and so
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Speaker 3: I joined these groups. Brady in particular has been so
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Speaker 3: helpful for me and understanding how to have these conversations
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Speaker 3: and how to speak out and how to make it
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Speaker 3: a bipartisan issue and not a partisan one. And so
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Speaker 3: that's how I got here. I'm very passionate about saving lives,
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Speaker 3: and the simple facts are that we can do so.
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Speaker 3: We have the resources, we just have to act upon it,
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Speaker 3: and we have to get more and more people to
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Speaker 3: join the cause.
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Speaker 1: I know for me, I had a four year old
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Speaker 1: cousin who was harmed by a gun and probably had
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Speaker 1: we had a little more education and noise about safety,
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Speaker 1: we might have saved them.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, my background on this. But Christian, how about you?
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Speaker 2: How'd you end up here? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: I appreciate Jim and coach, thanks so much for sharing
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Speaker 4: your story and your passionate on this issue.
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Speaker 5: Now I come to the work the same way.
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Speaker 4: Right today, I'm the chief officer of Policy and Programs
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Speaker 4: at Brady. But in two thousand and five was a
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Speaker 4: Memorial Day. My parents were having a holiday vacation together.
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Speaker 4: They had borrowed my dad's best friend's boat for the weekend.
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Speaker 4: They were eating barbecue and getting sunburned and just to
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Speaker 4: doing exactly what she should.
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Speaker 5: On the holiday weekend.
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Speaker 4: And when they came back to return the boat to
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Speaker 4: my dad's best friend, a man lay in wait to
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Speaker 4: shoot my dad's best friend, and because my parents were there,
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Speaker 4: he turned the gun on them as well. My dad
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Speaker 4: was shot first after walking up and the confusion set in.
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Speaker 5: He shot my dad.
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Speaker 4: My dad sort of ran around the garage and was
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Speaker 4: shot two more times, and my mom, rather than running
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Speaker 4: away a neighbors say, I sort of stayed there to
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Speaker 4: keep my dad's best friend alive. And the last words
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Speaker 4: that she ever spoken this world were begging for her
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Speaker 4: life as to run about ten step and was shot
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Speaker 4: with a single bullet to the backd I had survived, luckily,
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Speaker 4: my mom was killed, and this two thousand and five,
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Speaker 4: So I just crossed the threshold of sort of being
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Speaker 4: alive longer without her than with her in this world.
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Speaker 4: And when we were picking up the pieces, the same
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Speaker 4: as what you both know so intimately well as well
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Speaker 4: is the only remarkable part of our story was how
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Speaker 4: unremarkable it was. The more I got out there and
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Speaker 4: started meeting other survivors, particularly survivors and Brady's network at
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Speaker 4: the time in our grassroots I'm a product.
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Speaker 5: Of that grassroots system.
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Speaker 4: I just met incredible people in California who had lost
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Speaker 4: loved ones to these preventable tragedies, and they were turning
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Speaker 4: their pain into purpose. And just like what Coach is describing,
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Speaker 4: I wanted answers. I wanted to learn how to talk
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Speaker 4: more effectively on this I wanted to know how it
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Speaker 4: is that the shooting happened in the first place, and
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Speaker 4: Brady gave me a place in a space to do
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Speaker 4: just that. And all these years later, I'm really honored
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Speaker 4: to be in the position that I am to be
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Speaker 4: able to work. And I'll tell you, Jim, like the
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Speaker 4: public health approach, the folks that you're talking to, the
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Speaker 4: folks listening and on this podcast, I mean, it's been
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Speaker 4: transformational in the way that we can break through and
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Speaker 4: really have honest dialogue about what works and doesn't preventing
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Speaker 4: gun violence. And I think it's really changed our approach
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Speaker 4: to how we can affect and create change. And you
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Speaker 4: couple that with what coaches really tapped into, which is informed,
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Speaker 4: but also just like, let's cut through the bs, let's
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Speaker 4: really talk about how angry Americans are, regardless of where
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Speaker 4: they're from, regardless of where they live. We're the only
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Speaker 4: country that's defined by gun violence. Right we have a
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Speaker 4: whole generation of kids that is defined by gun violence.
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Speaker 5: And we can live and work and do better.
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Speaker 4: I am here in a product of all of that
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Speaker 4: and just trying to make change. So I thank you
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Speaker 4: both so much for the conversation, for the work, and
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Speaker 4: I'm excited to dig in with you.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's changed a little bit. Just watching
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Speaker 1: candidates talk about owning guns themselves. It doesn't sound like
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Speaker 1: people are taking guns away. And on my own son
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Speaker 1: went to school Montana used to that the guys would
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Speaker 1: go out and shoot recreationally. One of those best friends
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Speaker 1: has four or five guns. So again, I think nobody
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Speaker 1: is saying in our discussions, or at least I haven't
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Speaker 1: heard that we want to.
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Speaker 2: Take guns away from people, right, Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's exactly right. There's so much
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Speaker 4: common ground here. There's so many ways that people can
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Speaker 4: be a part of the conversation and effect change. It's
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Speaker 4: not about removing somebody's ability to own a firearm. I
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Speaker 4: think it's about having it honest dialogue about the dangers
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Speaker 4: that exist around having a gun on the home, in
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Speaker 4: particular the need to make sure you're responsibly storing that weapon.
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Speaker 4: We've got an incredible program here Brady called n Family Fire,
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Speaker 4: which is really how do we speak directly to gun owners.
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Speaker 4: We know that guns exist, and you have a role
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Speaker 4: if you are a responsible gun owner. You can save
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Speaker 4: lives just by doing the simple act of locking up
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Speaker 4: that weapon and storing the ammunition separately.
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Speaker 5: And to ask if there's.
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Speaker 4: Guns in the home when your kids are going over
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Speaker 4: and playing, I would say, what is fundamentally changed And
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Speaker 4: the reason why things like the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act
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Speaker 4: was passed with fifteen Republicans in the US Senate, including
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Speaker 4: Mitch McConnell. The reason why that's happening and why that
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Speaker 4: change is shifting and occurring on the ground is because
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Speaker 4: gun owners are joining the conversation and Americans on all
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Speaker 4: sides of the isle are saying, we don't have to
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Speaker 4: be defined by this public health crisis. There's something that
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Speaker 4: we can do where I can still own a gun,
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Speaker 4: or my neighbor can still own a gun, and we
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Speaker 4: can still prevent the horrific levels of gun violence that
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Speaker 4: we experienced that no other country does.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think these storage laws are so crucial.
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Speaker 3: California just passed legislation that made it a law that
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Speaker 3: if you're a gun owner, you have to store your
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Speaker 3: gun safely. And it's a huge issue because seven kids
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Speaker 3: a day in America are shot accidentally by a gun
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Speaker 3: in the hull, and seventy five percent of those guns
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Speaker 3: were improperly stored. So if this becomes law nationally like
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Speaker 3: it is in California, just do the math. If responsible
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Speaker 3: gun owners follow the law, we are going to save
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Speaker 3: multiple children's lives every single day. And the beauty of
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Speaker 3: this conversation, as Christian was saying, is it really is
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Speaker 3: not partisan. I was amazed watching Kamala Harris in her
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Speaker 3: interview a couple weeks ago saying, like, I have a
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Speaker 3: gun and if an intruder comes in, I'm going to
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Speaker 3: shoot that intruder. You didn't hear a Democrat say that
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Speaker 3: twenty years ago. So I think there is a much
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Speaker 3: different tone now than in the past. I think there's
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Speaker 3: more common ground, and this is part of educating yourself
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Speaker 3: on this conversation. For me, there's some really simple things
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Speaker 3: to follow. Never use the phrase gun control, because nobody
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Speaker 3: wants to be controlled. And it's so important that if
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Speaker 3: you're having this conversation with your neighbor who's a gun owner,
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Speaker 3: who's on the other side of the argument, say gun
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Speaker 3: violence prevention. It matters. Words matter, And I think for me,
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Speaker 3: I learned a valuable lesson. I made a comment publicly,
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Speaker 3: I said, you know, we shouldn't have automatic weapons in
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Speaker 3: this country. Well, we don't. We have semi automatic weapons.
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Speaker 3: We need to understand the difference between those two kinds
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Speaker 3: of weapons if you want to have a serious conversation
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Speaker 3: with a gun owner. So these are some of the
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Speaker 3: things that I've learned. But what I'm hardened by is
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Speaker 3: the fact that it does feel like we've got an
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Speaker 3: old generation of kids who have gone through the trauma
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Speaker 3: of whether it's an actual school shooting or just going
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Speaker 3: through those damn drills every day that have to be
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Speaker 3: terrifying for kids. But this generation is growing up, the
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Speaker 3: conversation is becoming more bipartisan, more public health related, and
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Speaker 3: I think this is all part of the conversation shifting.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think public health related like smoking, cessation or cholesterol.
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Speaker 2: Knowing your number, these are some very basic things.
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Speaker 1: So for me, as a healthcare marketer and communicator my
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Speaker 1: whole career, it feels very much along those lines. Christian,
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Speaker 1: is that a discussion that's becoming more problem Because I've
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Speaker 1: certainly talked to the doctors you've brought out to events
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Speaker 1: who treat people who've been in these shootings and what
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Speaker 1: they're seeing in the emergency room, the type of injury
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Speaker 1: from the semi automatic and.
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Speaker 2: All of that. Steve, you just probably saw.
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Speaker 1: We had a forty nine er in downtown San Francisco shot.
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Speaker 1: Thankfully by some miracle, you'll get to play again this year.
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Speaker 1: But this is pretty common to see more and more.
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Speaker 1: It affects our workplace. So for those running big businesses
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Speaker 1: and they want their people showing up healthy, is that resonating?
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Speaker 1: It must have economic impact, if not cultural.
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Speaker 4: There's so much to unpack with all that, and I
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Speaker 4: think you're exactly right. I mean, the way that the
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Speaker 4: conversation is shifting, the way we're getting smarter about it,
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Speaker 4: the way we're getting smarter about talking about it.
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Speaker 5: Just this year.
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Speaker 4: Understanding we have today that gun violence isn't any one thing,
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Speaker 4: but it's such a complex problem that requires a multifaceted approach.
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Speaker 4: Three out of five gun debts in America are birom suicides,
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Speaker 4: and the approaches to that kind of violence is very
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Speaker 4: different than what black and brown communities are facing and
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Speaker 4: in the ways they're being disproportionately impacted by gun violence,
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Speaker 4: and that's very different than the mass casualty shootings that
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Speaker 4: we so often see that no other country witnesses whatsoever.
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Speaker 4: They all take different sort of approaches, and I think
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Speaker 4: above all, the public health discussions give us the ability
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Speaker 4: to really make sure that we're leading in addressing these
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Speaker 4: types of gun violence with evidence right and with the
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Speaker 4: right approaches that balance all of these things, that we
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Speaker 4: can be as surgical as we possibly can.
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Speaker 5: And your point.
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Speaker 4: About the public health networks, it is taking root. We're
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Speaker 4: very fortunate here, Brady, our board chair, doctor Joe Sacron.
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Speaker 4: He's not only a survivor of gun violence, he was
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Speaker 4: shot it actually thirty years ago, just last week, but
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Speaker 4: he's this amazing trauma surgeon. And I recommend folks go
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Speaker 4: out and read about doctor Sacron and the incredible work
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Speaker 4: that he's done. But there was this moment where the
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Speaker 4: NRA was sort of telling doctors and the medical and
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Speaker 4: public health community to stay in their lane. And doctor
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Speaker 4: Sacron and a number of incredibly courageous surgeons who see
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Speaker 4: this day in and day out. They're the ones that
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Speaker 4: are seeing the impact of gun violence, who were watching
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Speaker 4: the children that are coming into the emergency rooms, who
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Speaker 4: are having to tell the families of the people who
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Speaker 4: brought me in to see my dad when he was bloody,
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Speaker 4: and they saved his life for the two weeks in
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Speaker 4: the ICU that he had to be there, that if
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Speaker 4: they didn't act quickly, if they didn't have the experience
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Speaker 4: of knowing how to treat this as incredibly fortunate that
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Speaker 4: my dad survived, But that's because of the medical community.
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Speaker 4: But they also are saying, look, we don't want to
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Speaker 4: have to deal with it once it gets to us.
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Speaker 4: We need to look upstream and we need solutions that
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Speaker 4: are going to really work. And this is our Lane
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Speaker 4: movement that came out of that has been a really
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Speaker 4: incredible voice in making sure that we're defining it the
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Speaker 4: right way, to the point that the Surgeon General just
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Speaker 4: came out with a report that, for the first time
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Speaker 4: ever in what was really historic, defined gun violence as
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Speaker 4: the public.
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Speaker 5: Health crisis that it really is.
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Speaker 4: So all these things sort of exist and swirl around
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Speaker 4: and are the reason why we're having more honest conversations.
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Speaker 4: And I think that the public, regardless of where you're from,
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Speaker 4: knows that there's something that can be done here and
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Speaker 4: that folks like us aren't talking about taking your guns away.
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Speaker 4: We're really just trying to find these common sense solutions
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Speaker 4: that are going to have the impact that is necessary,
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Speaker 4: the impact that will make it so that people don't
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Speaker 4: experience the kind of trauma that we all know. It's
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Speaker 4: not just what we experienced when our loved ones were shot.
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Speaker 4: It's the day after day feeling of trauma that we've
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Speaker 4: had every day since. And I think that's what's changed
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Speaker 4: the conversation at large.
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Speaker 1: I like this concept of a healthy conversation around the issue.
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Speaker 1: Did Coach Courr You find that your involvement and your
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Speaker 1: voice out there maybe help us in this discussion.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's really important that this becomes a
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Speaker 3: common conversation that everyone has at the dinner table with
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Speaker 3: their kids, at the barbecue with their neighbors. Because social
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Speaker 3: change takes time, but once an issue catches, it can
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Speaker 3: turn quickly, and I think that's going to be the
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Speaker 3: case with gun violence prevention in our country. I think
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Speaker 3: because it is becoming more bipartisan, this becoming a public
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Speaker 3: health discussion, not just a political one. As people get
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Speaker 3: more in full on this, then we'll be able to
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Speaker 3: drive policy more. One of the best analogies that exist
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Speaker 3: in terms of how we can solve this issue, or
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Speaker 3: at least solve much of it is the auto industry.
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Speaker 3: We have ninety percent fewer casualties now from the auto
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Speaker 3: industry than we did sixty or seventy years ago. And
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Speaker 3: if you think about it quickly, what have we done?
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Speaker 3: Car seats, seat belts, wear bags, yeah, speed limits, all
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Speaker 3: really common sense auto safety measures. Ninety percent we have
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Speaker 3: reduced auto deaths. So there are very similar things we
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Speaker 3: can do in the gun industry. But what we need
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Speaker 3: is for that discussion to be had at the dinner table,
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Speaker 3: because that's what all of a sudden, you get enough
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Speaker 3: popular opinion behind politicians, then they go, oh, I can't
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Speaker 3: win an election unless I go and fight for gun
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Speaker 3: safety training. If you're going to have a gun, you
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Speaker 3: should have safety training, just like you do for a car.
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Speaker 3: And there's going to be disagreements, it's going to be
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Speaker 3: a bumpy road. But the more we have these conversations,
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Speaker 3: the more the majority ends up getting their way politically,
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Speaker 3: because let's face it, the vast majority of Americans want
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Speaker 3: common sense gun safety measures to prevent deaths and violence.
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Speaker 1: So Christian, that's why you sit here, you have this
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Speaker 1: conversation with you guys, and we're like, yeah, this makes
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Speaker 1: so much sense. Why does it not make sense to others?
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Speaker 1: When it's one of these things where it's like, no
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Speaker 1: one's trying to control anyone, although that's what you hear,
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Speaker 1: and no one's trying to tell people what to do
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Speaker 1: or how to live or any of that.
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Speaker 2: It's just we got to have some rules.
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Speaker 1: We've always had rules around all kinds of things and
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Speaker 1: some regulations. None of them stop us from driving a car,
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Speaker 1: none of them stop us from going out and doing
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Speaker 1: the things we.
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Speaker 2: Like to do. So I guess that's the question. How's
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Speaker 2: that evolving?
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Speaker 1: I know you're going to go today to DC and
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Speaker 1: talk to some people about it. Why does it have
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Speaker 1: to take a shooting, that school shooting, or two in
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Speaker 1: a person's district before they seem to care.
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Speaker 4: The only thing I'll push back on is I think
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Speaker 4: that the American people are there, especially since we saw
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Speaker 4: the horrific shooting in Sandy Hook, There's been a steady
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Speaker 4: drumbeat of change on the ground, and people have been
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Speaker 4: showing up, and they keep showing up. I go back
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Speaker 4: to what Coach was just talking about your ability. The
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Speaker 4: folks listening here, the people that we are interacting with
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Speaker 4: and talking to all the time. Your ability to affect
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Speaker 4: change by the people who you influence.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 4: I have been and am a lobbyist, right, and have
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Speaker 4: sort of come up in that training on this issue.
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Speaker 4: But everybody's a lobbyist in their home, right. Everybody's a
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Speaker 4: lobbyist at that kitchen table, and you're the most trusted messenger, right.
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Speaker 4: Like Brady has taught me how my voice matters, my
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Speaker 4: story matters. It's not the only part of me. Part
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Speaker 4: of it is that we have the answers, we have
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Speaker 4: the solutions. We know that the states with strong gun
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Speaker 4: laws have low gun death rates.
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Speaker 5: That's just a fact.
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Speaker 4: States with weak gun laws have high gun death rates.
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Speaker 4: And what I can tell you, though, is the momentum
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Speaker 4: we are feeling that is affecting the change, that is
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Speaker 4: changing this issue so that it is something that you
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Speaker 4: hear presidential candidates talking about passionately. What Joe Biden is
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Speaker 4: doing with the Office of Gun Violence Prevention, it's historic,
18:17
Speaker 4: it's never been done. I'm going over there today where
18:20
Speaker 4: they are signing an executive action. It's really robust. It
18:24
Speaker 4: has a ton of funding for community violence intervention groups.
18:27
Speaker 4: It's directly trying to take on the kinds of mechanisms
18:31
Speaker 4: that are turning semi automatic weapons into automatic weapons. It's
18:34
Speaker 4: talking about the advancements of the three D printing. They're
18:36
Speaker 4: not doing that because the shooting happened.
18:38
Speaker 5: They're doing it.
18:38
Speaker 4: Because people elected a gun violence prevention champion, and he
18:43
Speaker 4: has responded by doing what no other president has done,
18:46
Speaker 4: which is to act and to continue to act with
18:49
Speaker 4: every single day he has an officer. I want to
18:51
Speaker 4: say that Coach Kerr's point about showing up is really
18:54
Speaker 4: important and like he's the best example of it. Like
18:56
Speaker 4: we saw Coach Kerr speak passionately to the American people
19:02
Speaker 4: after the Uvaldi shooting, and I'm a survivor of gun violence,
19:06
Speaker 4: so I was completely wrecked and devastated and watching you, Coach,
19:10
Speaker 4: you were channeling how the American people were feeling. And
19:13
Speaker 4: it didn't just come up in that moment, though, And
19:15
Speaker 4: I think that's what people need to realize that you
19:17
Speaker 4: had taken the time to work with us at.
19:18
Speaker 5: Brady and these other organizations.
19:20
Speaker 4: You had been learning what mechanisms and loopholes existed that
19:24
Speaker 4: have allowed this kind of violence to persist, and you
19:27
Speaker 4: were prepared in that moment to talk about those things.
19:30
Speaker 4: But you were leading with the fact that American people
19:33
Speaker 4: are fed up and it's our leaders that are failing us.
19:35
Speaker 4: And I think that when you did that that was
19:37
Speaker 4: felt here in DC and it led to the incredible
19:41
Speaker 4: step of the bipartisans Safer Communities Act, which is really
19:43
Speaker 4: it's a first step, but you have to get a
19:45
Speaker 4: bill like that across the line. Republicans have to vote
19:48
Speaker 4: for it to show that the sky doesn't fall, and
19:50
Speaker 4: then they're going to show up and be ready for
19:52
Speaker 4: the next piece of legislation that's going to move forward.
19:54
Speaker 4: And I think eventually we'll be transformational in in the
19:57
Speaker 4: way that we deal with gun violence in this country.
19:58
Speaker 4: So all that matters, and I just one of people
20:00
Speaker 4: who are listening to really realize that your voice, it's
20:03
Speaker 4: not insurmountable this issue. The way that we win as
20:06
Speaker 4: if if you have the ability to just start having
20:08
Speaker 4: those conversations and prepare yourself, and we have, Brady, We've
20:11
Speaker 4: got resources to help you understand what that looks like.
20:15
Speaker 4: And we're just so thankful that people keep showing up.
20:24
Speaker 1: Now I want to shift into a section I'm calling
20:27
Speaker 1: so what's it all mean where we hear about your
20:29
Speaker 1: work and action and how it's playing out in the
20:32
Speaker 1: real world. So how in the face of opposition, because
20:41
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've faced it and the noise, how do
20:45
Speaker 1: you maintain hope and continue your advocacy, How do you
20:49
Speaker 1: get up every day?
20:50
Speaker 2: And what inspires you to do it?
20:52
Speaker 3: Honestly, there are so many people who are involved in
20:55
Speaker 3: so many amazing stories, like Christians of people who have
20:59
Speaker 3: been so devastated. All of the March for our Live
21:04
Speaker 3: kids are so inspirational. And you know, when you recognize
21:08
Speaker 3: that there are so many young people who are involved
21:12
Speaker 3: in this campaign this cause, it's very inspiring because you
21:16
Speaker 3: know that the young people are the ones who are
21:18
Speaker 3: going to drive change in the future. They're the ones
21:21
Speaker 3: who are going to grow up and become the policymakers
21:23
Speaker 3: and the politicians. And again it's a cultural shift, but
21:26
Speaker 3: it's something that's so important. I think human beings naturally
21:30
Speaker 3: have empathy for one another, especially when they actually interact
21:35
Speaker 3: and speak, and so I just am inspired when I
21:39
Speaker 3: speak with people who share my view that we should
21:43
Speaker 3: limit this devastation as best we can.
21:45
Speaker 1: To put you on the spot a little bit, do
21:47
Speaker 1: it you know, what's the ideal future and gun safety
21:50
Speaker 1: laws that you see in the next day.
21:52
Speaker 2: Five or ten years too. Let's hear what that looks like.
21:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, look, we're on the precipice.
21:57
Speaker 4: I've mentioned the Bipartison Say for Communities Act a few times,
21:59
Speaker 4: but it's really an incredible marker because you're asking earlier,
22:03
Speaker 4: how is it that the change isn't happening? I mean,
22:05
Speaker 4: the frank answer is that we have kind of the
22:07
Speaker 4: boring answer, but the real answer is that we have
22:10
Speaker 4: a system that's rigged. Ninety percent of Americans support the
22:13
Speaker 4: kind of changes we're talking about, and yet it's not
22:15
Speaker 4: moving forward because a small minority, particularly in the US Senate,
22:19
Speaker 4: are able to use tools like the procedural filibuster to
22:22
Speaker 4: rig the deck. We have a majority of support in
22:25
Speaker 4: the US Senate, just like we do among the American people,
22:28
Speaker 4: but they use that tool so that we can't pass
22:30
Speaker 4: things that ninety percent of Americans want. So we have
22:32
Speaker 4: to really think about that as we move forward. How
22:36
Speaker 4: do we make sure that our democracy is functioning and
22:38
Speaker 4: that we can pass the things that the American people
22:40
Speaker 4: so desperately want a need. And also, we created an
22:44
Speaker 4: environment post. Youve all Day hosts Buffalo, New York, where
22:48
Speaker 4: it was so horrific. While we were witnessing that there's
22:52
Speaker 4: a provision in that bipartis Saber Communities that protects victims
22:55
Speaker 4: of domestic abuse. That provision was holding up the reauthorization
23:00
Speaker 4: of VAHWAH for years, and in particular, Senator Capito had
23:05
Speaker 4: said that she did not want to move a version
23:07
Speaker 4: of vah WAH forward the Violence Against Women Act if
23:11
Speaker 4: it included these gun provisions. We had were horrified by this.
23:14
Speaker 4: We talked a lot about it. They passed the reauthorization
23:16
Speaker 4: without that boyfriend loophole provision in the VAHWAH Reauthorization Act.
23:21
Speaker 4: A month later, they were voting on the Bipartisans Say
23:23
Speaker 4: for Communities Act, and the entire outpouring of public support
23:27
Speaker 4: is exactly the reason why Senator Capito voted in favor
23:31
Speaker 4: of that bill. It's not because folks from San Francisco
23:35
Speaker 4: or Washington, DC were making calls. It's because there were
23:38
Speaker 4: people calling in deep bred states saying, we demand you
23:41
Speaker 4: do something to protect our children. I think that if
23:44
Speaker 4: we continue that kind of drum beat, there's no way
23:47
Speaker 4: that we lose and that's why Senator Mitch McConnell brought
23:50
Speaker 4: that forward. It is because we created an environment where
23:53
Speaker 4: they have to be on the right side of history
23:54
Speaker 4: if they want to be able to reach young people,
23:57
Speaker 4: if they want to be able to reach suburban moms,
23:59
Speaker 4: and the mayor can people in deep red states came
24:03
Speaker 4: forward and made that happen, and I think it's only
24:05
Speaker 4: a matter of time before we can do that on
24:07
Speaker 4: a larger scale. And I truly believe that when it happens,
24:11
Speaker 4: is not going to just be a trickle.
24:12
Speaker 5: It's not going to just be one thing. It's going
24:13
Speaker 5: to be a host of things.
24:14
Speaker 4: Now what it is, Jim, I think we have to
24:16
Speaker 4: strengthen and expand the Brady background check system, not because
24:20
Speaker 4: universal background checks are going to solve all of gun violence,
24:23
Speaker 4: but because it's the foundation upon which all gun laws
24:26
Speaker 4: can function. And then we have to go at sort
24:28
Speaker 4: of thinking through what are the things the forms of
24:31
Speaker 4: gun violence we want to address. Extreme risk protection orders
24:34
Speaker 4: are wildly effective at preventing firearms suicide and preventing mass shootings.
24:39
Speaker 4: These community violence intervention programs, making sure that we're funding
24:43
Speaker 4: communities so that people don't feel the need to pick
24:45
Speaker 4: up a firearm.
24:46
Speaker 2: Right.
24:46
Speaker 1: That's like the stuff Pastor Mike does right exactly.
24:49
Speaker 4: Pastor mic is a pioneer Erica Ford is a pioneer
24:52
Speaker 4: these leaders in communities, particularly black and brown leaders that
24:56
Speaker 4: have been working in their communities to make sure that
24:58
Speaker 4: the cycles of gun violence a being prevented. It doesn't
25:01
Speaker 4: cost much. Gun violence costs a lot in order to
25:03
Speaker 4: invest in these communities, address the root causes, make sure
25:06
Speaker 4: that you're giving money to the kinds of folks who
25:09
Speaker 4: can break these cycles of gun violence. Wildly effective at
25:12
Speaker 4: preventing it. So we have these answers, we just got
25:15
Speaker 4: to get it done. And I think it's gonna not
25:17
Speaker 4: be a single thing we have, Brady feel really strongly,
25:19
Speaker 4: it's not going to be a single thing that breaks
25:21
Speaker 4: through when we get there. It's going to be all
25:22
Speaker 4: of these things. And we just have to be ready
25:24
Speaker 4: for the moment.
25:24
Speaker 1: So what's the average person do coach? What would you
25:27
Speaker 1: coach them to do?
25:28
Speaker 3: The first step would be to educate yourself on how
25:31
Speaker 3: to have the discussion, because it's just so important to
25:34
Speaker 3: understand terminology, understand kind of the art of communicating with
25:39
Speaker 3: somebody who disagrees with you. You need to understand their
25:42
Speaker 3: perspective and then you need to be able to counter
25:44
Speaker 3: that with facts. And I am encouraged that there's easy
25:48
Speaker 3: access to information to get involved with Brady or any
25:51
Speaker 3: of the great groups out there. Everyone's got a great
25:54
Speaker 3: website that'll tell you exactly what they're working on and why.
25:58
Speaker 3: There's so much to learn before you start the conversation
26:02
Speaker 3: with your neighbor or your family. And that would be
26:04
Speaker 3: my first bit of advice. Educate yourself about.
26:07
Speaker 2: It, and then vote.
26:08
Speaker 3: I assume right and vote, and absolutely, yeah, you got
26:13
Speaker 3: to get out and vote. But I do think that
26:15
Speaker 3: we have so much common ground. As Christian said, ninety
26:18
Speaker 3: percent of us in this country, regardless of political affiliation,
26:22
Speaker 3: we agree on this stuff. And there's so many great
26:25
Speaker 3: groups who are doing so much good work, both in
26:28
Speaker 3: big policy measures like Brady, but also so many grassroots
26:31
Speaker 3: group As Christian was saying, there's a guy named Desmond
26:34
Speaker 3: Mead in Orlando who's just incredible, and he has worked
26:39
Speaker 3: so art on this issue, and every year when we
26:41
Speaker 3: go to Orlando to play, I get a chance to
26:43
Speaker 3: visit with him. He's so inspiring. To meet these people
26:45
Speaker 3: who are out there and you want to get involved
26:48
Speaker 3: in the community. There's a lot of great ways to
26:50
Speaker 3: do so in your local communities, and it's so easy
26:53
Speaker 3: to find online who's doing what. But if you just
26:56
Speaker 3: want to be more conversational with it, read up, kick
27:00
Speaker 3: yourself on this stuff, or affiliate with a group like
27:03
Speaker 3: Brady or Gifford's and you'll learn a.
27:05
Speaker 1: Lot And Christ and you would say, keep writing and
27:07
Speaker 1: keep calling in.
27:08
Speaker 4: That's right, I mean, yeah, keep showing up, right, I mean,
27:11
Speaker 4: keep showing up. And there's so many different ways to
27:13
Speaker 4: show up. Everybody has different means. We have Brady are
27:15
Speaker 4: doing our best to sort of give options to everybody. Right,
27:18
Speaker 4: you want to get involved, We've got grassroots and this
27:20
Speaker 4: event is a great example. Giving the donation is a
27:23
Speaker 4: powerful way to use your voice too. I come at
27:25
Speaker 4: this from a policy guy. You know, I'm gonna cut
27:27
Speaker 4: my teeth on policy I do with these programs and stuff,
27:29
Speaker 4: but just seeing firsthand and being on the leadership team,
27:32
Speaker 4: like our chief officer for Development, Liz Dunning, is another
27:36
Speaker 4: survivor of gun violence. Right, I'm our chief officer of
27:39
Speaker 4: Policy and Programs. I'm a survivor of gun mounce. We
27:41
Speaker 4: do not take lightly the responsibility that we know that
27:45
Speaker 4: there's so many things that people can do with their
27:48
Speaker 4: money and that is not easy, and when you choose
27:51
Speaker 4: to make that donation to us, we feel charged and
27:53
Speaker 4: understand the weight and responsibility to do every single thing
27:56
Speaker 4: we can. We're an organization, we're forty five percent of
27:59
Speaker 4: our revenue comes from donations that are less than one
28:02
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. We are fueled by individuals who are showing
28:05
Speaker 4: up in that way too, So we'll really with open arms,
28:09
Speaker 4: We're happy to in any way, shape or form that
28:11
Speaker 4: we can get you what you need so that you
28:13
Speaker 4: can feel involved. We want to help you with that.
28:14
Speaker 4: And Coach is exactly right. There's incredible groups everywhere. There's
28:18
Speaker 4: incredible groups that we partner with. There's incredible ways to
28:21
Speaker 4: engage to make sure that the federal government is giving
28:24
Speaker 4: funding to these community groups in a way that's not
28:26
Speaker 4: one offs too, but is really systemic and sustainable in
28:31
Speaker 4: kind of the historic ways that this administration has been doing.
28:33
Speaker 5: So all of this.
28:34
Speaker 4: Matters and I don't want to minimize them. I just
28:35
Speaker 4: want to thank you both for coming on here to
28:38
Speaker 4: talk about this incredible event for Brady, because it's really
28:41
Speaker 4: what gives me the ability to show up, to be
28:44
Speaker 4: able to go make sure that we're doing everything in
28:46
Speaker 4: our power to make sure that these things are crafted
28:49
Speaker 4: the right way and that they'll drive the greatest impact.
28:52
Speaker 4: We wake up every day thinking about that, and so
28:54
Speaker 4: we're just beyond thankful for you all for continuing to
28:57
Speaker 4: show up. And if there's any ways we can help
28:58
Speaker 4: you show up, we're here for that.
29:00
Speaker 2: All right.
29:00
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, Coach, because you're doing an
29:03
Speaker 1: event that we're all involved in coming up at the
29:06
Speaker 1: Chase Center in October, and I want to make sure
29:08
Speaker 1: that gets a plug. Let's talk a little bit about
29:10
Speaker 1: sort of this synergy between sports and advocacy, that voice
29:15
Speaker 1: that really could make a meaningful contribution to gun safety
29:19
Speaker 1: and also reaching the youth in particular, so we can
29:23
Speaker 1: really change.
29:24
Speaker 2: This going forward.
29:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I'm excited about the event. It's October seventeenth.
29:28
Speaker 3: I think it's our third or fourth event. The event
29:32
Speaker 3: raises money, which is important. Brady does a lot of
29:35
Speaker 3: policy work and that requires legal fees and money, and
29:39
Speaker 3: so money is important. But more than anything to me,
29:42
Speaker 3: it educates the people who are there, and it's an
29:45
Speaker 3: event where we really encourage people to learn and be
29:50
Speaker 3: part of it because of this groundswell of support that
29:53
Speaker 3: Christian has talked about that has to manifest itself into change.
29:58
Speaker 3: It's about cultural change, communication, and you know when we
30:02
Speaker 3: get people with a high profile Steph Curry, host of
30:06
Speaker 3: the event last year, we've got to be Diggs coming
30:09
Speaker 3: in this year, Tony Jue who's the head of door Dash,
30:13
Speaker 3: really prominent people who are making this a priority. I
30:18
Speaker 3: think it just spreads the word, and that's what we're
30:20
Speaker 3: trying to do is really get people to understand that
30:23
Speaker 3: the more they can learn, more they can talk about this,
30:26
Speaker 3: the more likely that change will happen sooner.
30:29
Speaker 1: The plug for my audience and my colleagues and friends
30:32
Speaker 1: is what got me and coming and participating it.
30:35
Speaker 2: Actually, that's it. It makes you more of a participant
30:38
Speaker 2: in it.
30:39
Speaker 1: I've had this conversation with Camal Bell, who was the
30:42
Speaker 1: host last year. I did a podcast with him and
30:44
Speaker 1: we talked about, you know, we're going to sit around
30:47
Speaker 1: and wring our hands and clench our teeth or are
30:49
Speaker 1: we going to just get out there and use whatever
30:53
Speaker 1: means we have to spread the good word, bring others
30:56
Speaker 1: in and create those dinner table conversations that are not fights. Okay,
31:01
Speaker 1: we're just talking about keeping our kids safe. We're just
31:04
Speaker 1: talking about keeping our families a little bit safer than
31:08
Speaker 1: they might have been yesterday. And I think that's the opportunity.
31:12
Speaker 2: With this sort of thing.
31:13
Speaker 1: So obviously we're calling people to take a table, or
31:17
Speaker 1: buy some seeds or come on out.
31:19
Speaker 3: I think we're also trying to get corporations involved, Jim,
31:22
Speaker 3: because there's always been this reluctance for corporations to take
31:25
Speaker 3: a side on a political issue, and I think it
31:28
Speaker 3: takes a lot of courage for Tony Shoe from door
31:31
Speaker 3: Dash to put himself out there. And the more corporate
31:35
Speaker 3: involvement we can get, the better, because as we know
31:38
Speaker 3: in America, corporations do help drive public policy. The more
31:43
Speaker 3: this becomes mainstream, not only with culture changers, but with
31:47
Speaker 3: business leaders people who can help change policy and affect policy,
31:52
Speaker 3: the better. And I think that's part of this event
31:53
Speaker 3: as well.
31:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the client base I have.
31:56
Speaker 1: And when you are out there talking about taking that
32:00
Speaker 1: or going to hospitals for better health, it's hard not
32:03
Speaker 1: to talk about this other piece of it, which affects
32:07
Speaker 1: systems that being a health citizen, whether you're corporate or individual,
32:12
Speaker 1: that's going to change all of this. It's kind of
32:15
Speaker 1: a less aggressive finger pointing approach. It's, like you said,
32:20
Speaker 1: a very educational. I think everybody in the room feels
32:24
Speaker 1: like a team, which is what you're good at. You're
32:27
Speaker 1: coaching us all to get there on how to go
32:31
Speaker 1: through the journey you've been through. So before I ask
32:34
Speaker 1: Coach Crow the last question, Jess, can you come on
32:36
Speaker 1: and tell everybody how they can sign up for the event.
32:39
Speaker 6: So the event that Coach said is October seventeen at
32:42
Speaker 6: Chase Centered. It's a small event. It's actually one of
32:45
Speaker 6: the things that's really nice about it. There's just going
32:47
Speaker 6: to be about listen, two hundred folks in the room,
32:49
Speaker 6: and we're going to get to know everybody and here
32:51
Speaker 6: from some great voices. So if you're interested in you
32:54
Speaker 6: can reach out to Jim, you can reach out to
32:57
Speaker 6: myself at Jay Gerber at Brady United dot org, or
33:02
Speaker 6: like I said, anyone Jim's office. But we're really excited
33:04
Speaker 6: to teach you more about what's happening. We would love
33:07
Speaker 6: to see anyone there at the event.
33:08
Speaker 1: Awesome, Thanks for that, sure, all right, Coach you knew
33:11
Speaker 1: I'd ask, first of all, congratulations on another Olympic when
33:15
Speaker 1: that was so thank you, amazing, And I think that's
33:18
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that happens and just builds everyone's morale.
33:22
Speaker 2: And union about how we are all one.
33:25
Speaker 1: And I'd be remiss and my listeners would hate me
33:29
Speaker 1: if I didn't ask, how do you think we're going
33:31
Speaker 1: to do this year?
33:33
Speaker 3: I am so excited. Our guys are literally training right now.
33:37
Speaker 3: We start camp next week, so we have informal training,
33:40
Speaker 3: and everybody's right down here on our court outside my office.
33:43
Speaker 3: In fact, let's see there they are.
33:46
Speaker 2: You see all right? Nice? Good. I'm glad.
33:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad they haven't stopped while you're doing this.
33:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm so excited. We got a good group.
33:56
Speaker 3: We've added some really good players.
33:57
Speaker 1: My son is especially excited about Buddy Heal. Yeah, that
34:00
Speaker 1: was brilliant. I think that's going to make a big impact.
34:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, we signed good player. Between Buddy and Kyle Anderson,
34:06
Speaker 3: We've got some really good new players. Our guys are excited. Unfortunately,
34:10
Speaker 3: we had a long off season. I'm not making the
34:12
Speaker 3: playoffs last year, but that also gives the guys rest
34:16
Speaker 3: and motivation. So I'm excited to start camp. I think
34:19
Speaker 3: we're going to have a good team.
34:20
Speaker 2: Well, Steph didn't have off seasons.
34:21
Speaker 3: He's allowed.
34:22
Speaker 1: He coined a new international phrase. Nobody knew what new
34:26
Speaker 1: e KNWI meant. That's right, that's right, that's so true.
34:30
Speaker 2: Yeah.
34:30
Speaker 1: Anyway, thanks for all you do. I look forward to
34:33
Speaker 1: seeing you at the event. Hopefully it spreads the word
34:35
Speaker 1: a little further. Look, every one more person, we get involved, right,
34:39
Speaker 1: Christian about it?
34:40
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? Man, You're off to do your.
34:43
Speaker 1: Duty and I know you're going to have a great
34:45
Speaker 1: day today in DC, so I'll let you go do that.
34:49
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone, This was excellent as always, and look forward
34:52
Speaker 1: to seeing you all soon and building momentum here.
34:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, incredible, Thank you all so much for this.
34:57
Speaker 3: All right, thanks guys, see you guys.
35:04
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