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CEO caught cheating...acceptable? · Talking Shed

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  Welcome back to the Talking Shit.
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  Podcast and my left the bro Josiah from the valley the
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  charged down king again cheaper than your old man churches champ
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  taker no just. Say it's my right.
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  It's very much you too much. The host from the coast.
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  He's sharper than your empty side.
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  Champagne Puppy Junior 666 yo. Welcome back to the Talking Chef
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  podcast. You're here with your host,
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  Josiah Machu, bringing you the latest on sports, pop culture,
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  and last big question. On today's episode, we're going
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  to be talking about a couple of things or a few things going on
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  in the world at the moment, especially one thing going
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  around in the world at the moment, which is a bit of a
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  horrible video. Both CEOs ain't safe by the
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  concerts either. That's all I'll say.
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  Shout out Coldplay. Both.
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  Then we're going to go into a hot take.
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  Do you? OK, Well, the question is going
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  to be, do you like someone more if they talk or if they let you
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  talk? Pretty much.
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  So we've got a question of the week as well.
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  Let's just say if you were in jail, what crime did you commit?
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  They end up in there. Few goldies in there man.
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  So we'll kick it off bro. What's on the radar this week
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  with our updates? Yeah bro, so my update's just
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  going to be on that CEO drama. So you saw the video and
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  everything I saw it's going viral on Instagram, TikTok bro
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  and everywhere. Oh my God, bro, it's so funny.
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  You're a shame a actually that that's just bro.
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  When I when I just seen that, I just thought, shame you idiots,
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  bro, because when I first saw it, I was like, why is he making
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  a big deal? Like they just in the kiss Cam
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  and then a process, bro, they must have that must not be their
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  wife and husband. And so I did a bit of digging
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  just to find a bit more information about it.
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  So pretty much the guy's name is Andy Byron.
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  I'm calling all names out and the lady's name is Christine
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  Cabot and he is the CEO of the company and she's like the chief
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  operations manager or something. Yeah, the company is astronomer
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  and they're actually an AI based company.
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  So they do types of AI services, I guess for companies.
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  Everything is kind of, from what I could see, it was like based
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  on like production and logistics and that kind of thing.
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  So like helping the business run more efficiently.
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  Top, top AI vibes. Don't ask anymore 'cause I'm not
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  too sure what that means. It just sounded right.
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  I should. Say it's not ChatGPT, Yeah.
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  Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. ChatGPT for rich people, pretty
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  much. And then bro.
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  So then the next part of it was, so a year ago, Christine
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  actually started at the company. Oh.
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  So she's fresh in the game. She's.
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  Fresh in the game, bro. So that makes you think like how
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  long ago did this romance start? Because you know that for sure
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  from how they were hugging. That isn't the first time
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  they've met up. That's I reckon I'm going to say
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  that's maybe like the fifth because it still look very lovey
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  dovey. They're all in that romance
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  period. So I reckon it's probably going
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  like 3-4, five months into their affair and then and then and
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  then it goes into here. So that year ago she made a made
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  a post specifically about this food.
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  Yeah. So she on LinkedIn.
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  So she said on LinkedIn. I have been energized in my
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  conversation with Andy Byron and the astronomer leadership team
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  about the opportunities that exist here, including aiding our
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  employees. I prefer to think of my role as
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  as people strategy versus traditional human resources, as
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  the real magic happens when you align the people strategy with
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  the with the business strategy. Oh, magic happens.
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  But all because you aligned up with the people strategy.
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  You aligned up with something else, buddy.
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  She took the opportunity. So she was, they were low key,
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  like not secret about they were business partners.
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  Like bro, they must've oh, I don't know, maybe they were just
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  in this thrill with like it was like secretive and they're
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  working together, but I don't know.
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  But then anyway, he's come out. Did you see his post?
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  Yeah, and this is a bit of a. So.
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  I have an opinion on. That so I won't go into the
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  whole statement that he released, but he pretty much the
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  day after he pretty much says, I apologize to my family, my wife.
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  That's not how I want to represent the company or
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  anything like that. Can you give us some privacy to
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  navigate this process? And then he just, he also is
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  most noted in it. I also want to express how
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  troubling it is that when what should have been a private
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  moment became public without my consent.
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  I respect artists and entertainers, but I hope we can
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  all think more deeply about the impact of turning someone else's
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  life into a spectacle. Are you even thinking about your
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  wife? Bro are you?
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  Even thinking about your kids. So, so he came out and basically
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  said like, I'm sorry, all that. But yeah, not the but.
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  That's Ratchet that you feel me? He pretty much said that bro.
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  No accountability so. What do you reckon about that?
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  He mate, like I said, he was not thinking about his wife or his
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  kids in that moment. No, he was thinking about one
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  thing. Yeah, Bo, but do you know what?
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  What? Stuffed them up?
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  Yeah. Like not to be the devil's
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  advocate but bro they shouldn't have made it such a big deal.
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  Exactly bro, Did you see the way she turned around like to hide
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  it? Honest to God if they just
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  played it off like let the camera on them for two more
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  seconds it went off probably no one would have.
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  Way less likely that they wouldn't have been caught
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  because Coldplay actually called them out there.
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  They were like, yeah, oh look, someone just got caught having
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  an affair or something. And you know, what was real bad
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  was the fact that he ended up, he got caught and he was like 00
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  and then he ducked. Off Oh bro the ducky.
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  Like you guys are idiots. Bro bro, he she needed to push
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  her off or something. And then the person next to them
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  must have been an acquaintance of some sort.
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  Oh, I stay given. A lady, she, she's just like
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  laughing and holding her face all at the same time, so
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  obviously she knows what something's going on.
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  And everything probably, like, she must know all the tea.
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  Like, yeah, this is crazy. Spill the beans, man.
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  Spill the beans, yeah. Yeah, so.
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  But I do get what he's meaning though about like that, because
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  like if you're in the show, you don't exactly want some people
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  don't want to be on the screen. Yeah, you know what I mean?
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  Yeah, it's like, it's like the kiss cams on the NBA.
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  Games and stuff, yeah. No.
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  Would you? If you were on the kiss Cam on
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  the NBA game, would you like hook up with your muscles?
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  Or I would honestly hate if it was on me.
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  Same. I'll seriously.
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  Get so shy. Yeah, I'd be like, oh hell.
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  No. Does the like the?
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  Yeah. It'd just be awkward going
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  bright, really. I'd get up, I'd get up, turn
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  around and start doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I don't know, bro. Yeah.
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  Good luck. Yeah.
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  So we're gonna see though. The other point to that though,
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  is like, bro, it could be a conspiracy for marketing.
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  Like, I don't know astronomer. You wouldn't know astronomer
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  before this. I don't know anything about it.
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  Bro and and they're a billion dollar company and now they've
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  just upped their whether it's like.
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  Marketing. Infamous and that's gonna work
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  well. I don't know.
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  Well, they got our attention, so it must have worked.
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  Yeah. So who knows?
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  Do you? Reckon you should get fired?
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  To me, like I did actually say this yesterday to someone I was
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  speaking to about it and I was like, surely he gets the show on
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  the door. One of them has to go one of
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  them because bro, you can't go and and your work culture is
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  like, remember when you guys got caught in Coldplay?
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  You dogs, you. Dog OK, hold on.
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  Here's a question for you. If you had to choose one or the
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  other out of them, two to show them the door, if you were on
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  the board, who would you show just based on what you've seen,
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  not even knowing them from a bar or so and thinking about.
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  Keep the CEO. True.
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  Yeah, so you can see say cocky tear to the.
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  But mind you, Nah, he's the he's the face of the brand.
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  Nah, Nah, goodbye to the CEO. Actually, I'll flip because he's
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  the face of your brand. And she, yeah, is as well,
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  because she's a major part of it.
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  But. But she's as she's more
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  forgetful to the public eye, I reckon.
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  Yeah, yeah. He, him being the CEO,
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  everyone's going to know him and everyone's going to remember
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  him. For matching him going to like a
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  meeting, a board meeting with everyone and everyone's looking
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  like shut up bro, not on, not on play UPS talking and speaking up
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  again. 100%. Get your get your life in order
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  before you open your mouth mate. Go a bit.
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  Of just those. Yeah, that's why your wife lived
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  too. Oh, Nah, Nah, Nah.
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  OK. Good luck bro.
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  We'll see how it goes. How do you reckon it's gonna
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  unfold? Oh, he's getting divorced and
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  probably fired. Yeah.
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  Man, I hope she could take. I hope the wife takes them for
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  everything as well. That's when that's when she bro.
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  That's when they deserve it by straight up.
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  Yeah, that's that's a good point.
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  That's a good point. To other news, though, on our
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  radar coming up in October. Yo, the African giant is on his
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  way down under, bro. He's coming down to Australia,
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  Brisbane, bro. I wouldn't be surprised if he's
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  performing elsewhere as well. So shout out burner boy man,
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  October 20th. I think he is.
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  He's coming down. I'm definitely going to try and
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  get tickets. To this Yeah, OK, he's a vibe.
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  He is a vibe bro so African giant man shout him out.
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  I'll vibe of him hard. I know a lot of people.
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  Do yeah bro, one of the only one of the few people that you don't
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  have to understand the lyrics say.
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  But I don't know what he's saying.
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  Half of them, not even half the time. 90% of the time all I
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  heard was. But in other news, in terms of
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  albums coming out? Yeah, bro.
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  Justin Bieber, bro is just cemented his place.
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  Bro. Above Michael Jackson.
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  Oh wait, hold on. Above Michael Jackson?
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  Hell no. Above Prince, Above who else is
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  big Drake? Wonder no.
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  No, no, he's just below. Drake.
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  He's just below Drake still, bro.
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  Like he just cannot release a bad album, bro.
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  And it's it's just crazy to me. And he's longevity is is like
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  unmatched. Yeah.
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  Bro Yeah, this is this is Daisy. This is a track.
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  But like bro, how how he's just like but he he's evolved, but he
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  his sound has pretty much stayed pretty true to how he.
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  His time, yeah. Yeah.
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  Like where he's at in terms of maturity?
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  Yeah, but I think like if you compare this to like this song
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  here, compared to like love Yourself from Purpose, which
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  would have been like 10 years ago now, it's not way different,
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  but it's enough to keep up with the times kind of thing.
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  I like that he's he's staying relevant, staying true to
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  himself, I think has his own sound and I like them.
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  This album, how I talk to you about it, how the beats aren't
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  too hectic, like it just it's carried by his voice.
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  Lots. Yeah, but.
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  Mellowed out a lot, hey? It has, like you were saying,
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  yeah. I said it his I never really
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  liked his stuff when he first came out, to be honest, bro.
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  This is actually the first album I've probably listened to.
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  Yeah. And I rate it.
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  Yeah. I actually, I really, I've
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  enjoyed this album, bro. Yeah, I can honestly say that.
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  So, bro, he's actually flipped me from someone who used to hate
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  him. Yeah, you know, as an artist to
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  bro. I'm on.
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  I'm on the JB. JB, you're a believer.
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  I'm a believer bro, so shout out JV man, shout out Benavoy and
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  shout out CEO question of the week.
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  This came up from a recent conversation I had with some
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  group of friends and we got talking about if we went to
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  jail, what crime will we have committed to end up inside?
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  And now I kind of want you to think so I'm, I'm proposing this
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  question to yourself and I'll share what I think I'd be in
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  jail for if I ever went to jail. But I kind of want you to think
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  about your personality, bro. You know who you are as a
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  person, what people would view you as, right?
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  Yeah. And how that the things you like
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  in life, the things you enjoy doing in life, of all of those,
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  what crime would you have committed because of that?
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  Yeah. Do you want me to go first?
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  Yeah, you can go. So I was, I was trying to think
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  about it. I was like damn, I need to
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  really dig into this. What could I be done for?
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  But if this isn't mine but aside honourable mention, if they
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  found out how many paper bags I stole from Woolworths, it's.
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  Straight up. But those aren't getting scanned
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  50 seeds, but you're $1,000,000 million dollar.
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  Company that's. Help me out.
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  Hey, that's a good. That's a good.
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  All all the amount of apples of scandals potatoes, but I reckon
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  my one would be getting caught in a gambling scandal true yeah
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  it's a sports bet don't maybe stop listening now but the.
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  Addiction. But if someone gave me like a
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  like a real good tip where it's like, bro, I know Stephen Cryden
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  is like going to miss the first conversion.
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  This is. This is a for sure.
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  Yeah, this is a for sure. I guarantee you, though.
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  Yeah. And I put, like, all my money on
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  it. Yeah, like, I reckon that's
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  probably what I'm going to jail for or, or like or like, what's
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  another one? You could absolutely rig like
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  LeBron James tells me, Bro, I'll go 30 tonight.
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  Oh, no, I'm going. I'm going under 10 points
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  tonight. That's yeah.
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  So you'd end up in something because of that.
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  Yeah, yeah, I reckon the. Gambling a gambling.
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  Kid A gambling addiction scandal.
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  That's a good one, what about you?
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  I would be inside because of a failed bank robbery attempt.
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  So we're both trying to make money.
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  It's you're both trying to make. Money.
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  Wow, that's the. Government's fault.
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  Money's the motivator, yeah. How would OK, let's how do you
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  reckon? Because bro, when you walk into
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  banks now, yeah, the only, the only real way you could do it as
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  a stand up player, like give me everything you got.
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  I have no idea how you'll do it, to be honest.
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  Yeah. Honestly, I'll just get caught
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  because of the lack of my time management.
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  Yeah. I I'm like, if you give me a
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  time to be out, I'm not out at it.
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  Yeah. Yeah, just I will.
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  Yeah. Yeah, we're just playing with
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  the cars left. Still getting the I'm.
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  Picking up the 50 seats every bit of money bro needs to go on
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  that bag brother. But that's why I'm getting
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  caught is because of yeah, my lack of what is it time my
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  management, the cops are rocking up and I'm still there trying to
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  pick up the $0.10 in the Crown. I'm in for sure trouble.
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  Do you have any may say you reckon would be in prison
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  because of certain things that they've done in their in their
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  lives? Oh yeah, drink driving.
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  Shut them out, Shut them out. But what would what would some
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  of my mates be done for? Probably gambling as well.
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  I'm good compared to heaps of them, they're terrible.
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  They're terrible. But other ones would probably be
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  not being able to handle the alcohol if that was if you could
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  go to jail for that or they're just losing to me at sports and
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  that kind of thing. That's a crime.
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  OK, so now I want to put this on your partner.
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  Yeah. What crime do you think she
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  would be in prison for? Probably killing me.
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  That was a quick. Ass reply probably.
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  It's a Mystic, probably. Manslaughter.
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  Yeah. Or maybe like I had and run
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  there now I'll give I'll give for sure I had and run, but I'm.
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  I'm pretty. I'm pretty much on the same part
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  as you. That's what I reckon my
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  partner's going to prison for. Barry.
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  Yeah. Barry.
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  She's there. Yeah.
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  She's in there because of those. Those three things you named as
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  well. Yeah.
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  Or poisoning my dinner. One of those ones, yeah.
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  Hot take. So we got a question that
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  stemmed from pretty much like a flat chat.
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  Do you like someone more if they talk and give you good
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  information or if they let you talk?
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  What's what's making you go away from a conversation with someone
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  thinking that was a good conversation, man.
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  I think that sometimes, like in my head, bro, this kind of comes
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  back, comes back to if you're a good listener or not.
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  Yeah. Like I, I, I noticed that there
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  are certain individuals in my life, right, who I've met
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  recently and I know they're like interested in the conversation
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  when they actually looking at you, because then I know that
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  they're actually engaged with the conversation you're having.
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  Personally, it probably wouldn't learn more towards the if they
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  let you talk more because a really good conversation started
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  is or like if you haven't met someone before is asking
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  questions about themselves. Yeah.
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  And because when you get someone talking about themselves, yeah,
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  bro, they just carry on. Yeah, yeah.
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  And carry on and carry on and oh, can I get it?
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  Something in there? Yeah, yeah, bro, yeah.
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  I think flipping it in almost, yeah, getting them to talk about
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  themselves is probably an important step A. 100 percent,
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  100%, Yeah. Like the The thing is when
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  people are having a conversation without knowing, they'll like
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  the conversation more if they're talking more.
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  Yeah, but no matter, I agree, no matter who they are, I don't
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  care who you are, but everyone wants to feel like they have a
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  valuable, like, yeah, a valuable word.
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  Like their word is means something.
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  Yeah, advice, yeah, that's. What everyone loves giving
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  advice, bro, when you don't even want to like right?
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  Like everyone wants to be that person where you go, someone's
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  having life ending drama and they can give you a one sentence
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  advice to fix it all, to be like, right?
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  And they I'm so amazed that you like talk to her that and they
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  go, yeah, but like when you think about it, like, does
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  anything matter? And you just think what I'm just
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  telling you that like, I got fired.
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  What do you mean? What do you mean?
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  Does anything matter? Like, yes, it does.
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  So like, yeah, I've I just we digress a bit.
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  But to go back to it, like there's this the book how to
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  influence people and or what's the book called how to influence
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  people and make people and make friends and make friends.
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  So there's like a, one of the points in there is like to let
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  other people to let other people talk pretty much.
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  And this pretty much like we said, is going to make them feel
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  like they're, they're offering something to a conversation and
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  give them a sense of validation and importance.
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  But one of the things that is mentioned as well in the diary
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  CEO in the podcast, it says that you should give someone, you
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  should give a 5 second break before you answer.
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  So that's like me saying to you, Machu, talk to me about your
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  work day today. How did how did it go?
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  Bo, there's no way I could do that.
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  Right after every question you have to wait 5 seconds.
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  Nah, Bo, that's stupid. That's stupid.
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  Like people, I think these people that are coming out with
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  this advice is you can't just give a one rule for every
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  conversation, you know what I mean?
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  I agree because you know when I think about this, the 5 second
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  rule, even in some cases I've seen people do a lot longer, I
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  feel like it's an it's an intimidation tactic.
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  You're trying to intimidate and be the one that's in charge of
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  the conversation. Do you know where I'm going?
• 20:36
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when like when you just gave
• 20:38
  me that pause, I'm like, wait, what's this dude thinking?
• 20:40
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's going through his mind
• 20:43
  right now? You know what I mean?
• 20:43
  Like, yeah. So for me, I almost think it's
• 20:45
  almost like they want to be in charge of the whole
• 20:47
  conversation. They want to be the one that
• 20:49
  leaves. And then I look back and I'm
• 20:51
  thinking about that person, you know, like, man, he, he was
• 20:53
  really trying to think about what he was going to say.
• 20:56
  And you're going to get left behind in some conversations
• 20:58
  because I guarantee you if I'm in that conversation, I'm not
• 21:02
  leading a 5 second silence habit.
• 21:05
  Yeah, yeah. I have to fill the silence and
• 21:07
  for me, I don't enjoy it. If there's bro, imagine I say
• 21:10
  something, 5 seconds, you say something 5 seconds.
• 21:12
  Yeah, I say something 5 seconds, Yeah, no.
• 21:15
  Wait, we've just wasted half an hour on the conversation of
• 21:17
  horses. Next 5 seconds on there bro.
• 21:23
  Asleep. Good night.
• 21:24
  Yeah, bro. Straight into REM sleep.
• 21:27
  Yeah. So I, I don't think that that is
• 21:30
  a good, I would prefer the, I think the better advice would be
• 21:35
  to let someone talk as much as you can, but to jump in and to
• 21:40
  obviously try and talk as well. Because like if you're, but if
• 21:46
  you're, if you're maybe if you're not self aware, but if
• 21:48
  you're a self aware type of person, you know if you're
• 21:50
  talking too much. Yeah, Yeah, of course.
• 21:52
  Yeah, I, I, I do, yeah. Because that's me.
• 21:58
  You know, one thing I do realize though, like for example, I'll
• 22:01
  use you as an example, one thing that I know engages people is
• 22:04
  that you're good at storytelling.
• 22:06
  So when you've got a good story and you're able to get that
• 22:11
  point across to the person you're talking to, I reckon
• 22:15
  they're guaranteed to really delve into the conversation.
• 22:18
  Like the conversation? That's what I think.
• 22:20
  Cuz when I walk away from a conversation with you, a lot of
• 22:22
  time, bro, I'm like, bro, I enjoyed it because he somehow
• 22:26
  related it to me. But he used an example that I
• 22:28
  can relate to. Yeah, yeah.
• 22:29
  You know. What I mean?
• 22:30
  Yeah, that's what I think as well is super important.
• 22:33
  Yeah. So if you're just talking for
• 22:35
  the sake of it, not making it interesting, that's when it's
• 22:38
  like, bro, shut up. Hey there.
• 22:42
  Hi there. Hi.
• 22:43
  There. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:45
  That's a good point. So, So what are you saying for
• 22:46
  this for this take pretty much like would you prefer someone
• 22:49
  let you talk or would you prefer to let the other person talk?
• 22:57
  Well to be fair I don't hate it, but I dislike when people give
• 23:02
  me advice a lot of time, especially when they haven't
• 23:06
  done it. Yeah, probably.
• 23:09
  Do you know what I mean? Like, like, don't talk to me
• 23:11
  about the gym if you don't go to the gym.
• 23:12
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:12
  Well, don't, don't talk to me about property if you don't own
• 23:14
  a property. Yeah.
• 23:15
  Yeah, You know what I mean? Like, I've had a lot of people
• 23:17
  who have spoken to me about these things.
• 23:18
  I'm like, but yeah, you're not doing that.
• 23:22
  Full relationship advices? Yeah, stuffed up relationship.
• 23:27
  Oh, straight up. You know, like, how do I fix my
• 23:30
  car? Yeah, you're not a mechanic.
• 23:34
  Yeah. So in this case, if I'm
• 23:36
  answering this question, I'm answering it by saying, yeah,
• 23:39
  I'd probably prefer it if they got me to talk more than than me
• 23:43
  talk than them talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, me too.
• 23:46
  Like I just think that like in general, I don't know if I'm
• 23:52
  just selfish. I just like talking.
• 23:54
  So like, I'm probably leaning more towards like, I want to
• 23:59
  talk. Yeah, yeah, I probably have to
• 24:02
  agree with. That I need to be way more like
• 24:06
  switch self aware though and let other people talk especially
• 24:09
  that's all my missus makes me realize because she's one to
• 24:13
  listen more and so bro, I can just talk over her interrupt.
• 24:20
  She gets annoyed. She's like bro, you just
• 24:22
  interrupted me for like the 10th time.
• 24:24
  I'm trying to get my story across like yeah, wrap it up.
• 24:31
  I just want to get my two seats. So what would if you met someone
• 24:34
  for the first time? Yeah, what would be some
• 24:36
  valuable, I guess tools for someone you know all?
• 24:42
  Right, I've actually got a take on this.
• 24:43
  Yeah, so one thing I reckon bro, because I reckon when you first
• 24:49
  meet someone like or people will have different types of like
• 24:53
  confidence and stuff when you first meet someone.
• 24:55
  And sometimes like real extroverted people will straight
• 25:00
  away be too buddy, buddy, buddy with you.
• 25:03
  Like bro, if I just meet you, don't come up to me and start
• 25:05
  mocking how I look. Yeah, like bro, I need, I need.
• 25:08
  To. I'm just doing that to you.
• 25:10
  Like I need to build a rapport for you first.
• 25:13
  Yeah, like let's just chill, like get to know each other.
• 25:17
  But maybe like the second or third interaction it start
• 25:20
  building up and then we can start like bantering and stuff.
• 25:22
  But but I'm not bantering with you.
• 25:24
  Full on, off the jump. Yeah.
• 25:27
  I don't know if this is even answering your question, but no,
• 25:29
  it is. Yeah.
• 25:29
  So the I reckon from from the jump to meet someone, be a bit
• 25:34
  conservative of yourself. Like don't, don't be too like
• 25:37
  ADD. Yeah, how long is a reasonable
• 25:41
  conversation when you first meet someone, you reckon?
• 25:43
  Well, like just saying if I just saw you at a cafe and be like,
• 25:46
  hey bro. How's it going?
• 25:47
  Yeah, well, if like you started a new job and you're meeting
• 25:49
  people. Oh bro, not too long I reckon.
• 25:56
  Try, try, keep it short and sweet and then be like, I'll
• 25:59
  catch you around next. Next time you build on that,
• 26:01
  next time build on that. And then next, the next minute,
• 26:04
  you're playing golf for 18 rounds and you're gonna pay me
• 26:08
  beers until 4:00 AM in the morning.
• 26:11
  And then you wonder why you got relationship problems.
• 26:13
  Yeah, yeah. What about?
• 26:15
  What about you? What are you reckoning like?
• 26:17
  So the question is first interaction with someone, how do
• 26:20
  you approach them? Yeah.
• 26:23
  How do you approach the conversation?
• 26:24
  The conversation, yeah. I think just share a little bit
• 26:26
  about your background would be important, like where you're
• 26:30
  kind of come from and. Could you start talking?
• 26:32
  Yeah. Exactly that.
• 26:36
  Just sure, yeah, kind of a little bit about your background
• 26:39
  and you know, maybe a little bit about your experience as well,
• 26:42
  like I'm talking about work related here, yeah.
• 26:44
  And kind of just, yeah, what you've done in the past a little
• 26:47
  bit maybe. Like do you throw like little
• 26:50
  lines out of different types of things?
• 26:52
  Like that's what I meet someone to start with automatically.
• 26:55
  The first thing I'll drop a little sport thing and to be
• 26:57
  like just to see if they like sports because I love sports.
• 27:01
  So if they like sports automatically we're on if they
• 27:04
  don't like sports. I'll see you later.
• 27:07
  We're pretty much done but sorry before sports is if they're
• 27:12
  brown honestly. Like if they're Maori or or
• 27:15
  Polynesian then I feel like automatically I'll get drawn to
• 27:18
  them quicker. I don't know if you're the same.
• 27:20
  Nah. So, so for me, I know one thing
• 27:23
  that I've started doing is early in the conversation or maybe in
• 27:26
  the second conversation, because the first one's kind of just
• 27:28
  like a quick, hey, how I and my name's this, you know, just a
• 27:31
  simple small talk stuff. Yeah.
• 27:32
  But in the second or third conversation, normally I bring
• 27:35
  up tattoos. I noticed a lot more people have
• 27:39
  tattoos these days. Yeah.
• 27:40
  And so I just ask him. I just go, bro, like, what's the
• 27:42
  story behind your tat? Yeah.
• 27:44
  And then automatically that's talking about them.
• 27:47
  Yeah. And it gets them interested in
• 27:48
  the conversation a little bit. Yeah.
• 27:49
  But that's because I'm actually genuinely wanting to know a bit
• 27:53
  about. Yeah, Yeah.
• 27:54
  And like, why they got that tattoo.
• 27:55
  And then you get stories like one of my work colleagues, bro,
• 27:58
  he just used to Ted himself. He had a tattoo gun.
• 28:01
  So he just had both. But I wouldn't have known that,
• 28:03
  you know what I mean? So it's a holy heck, this fellow
• 28:05
  used to just do himself, you know, just test it all out, you
• 28:07
  know? And crooked lines or.
• 28:11
  They're all fading out, but you know what I mean?
• 28:13
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are the types of
• 28:14
  conversations, Barry or the other one is like you said.
• 28:18
  I remember one of my first conversations I had with shout
• 28:21
  out to Barry Ash, because at my my new job.
• 28:23
  Oh, yeah. But we just somehow clicked onto
• 28:25
  sports and then we clicked onto people we know.
• 28:28
  And then we found out we actually know heaps of people in
• 28:30
  the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:32
  And so, yeah, kind of just like that just stemmed into, you
• 28:34
  know, from one thing to another to another.
• 28:36
  Yeah. But yeah, so conversations like
• 28:38
  that, I reckon, yeah, probably really important.
• 28:40
  Just see something that they, you know, like for me, I look at
• 28:44
  appearance and then I'll try and target something.
• 28:46
  Yeah, like I'll, I'll check them out to start with a bit like
• 28:49
  what's their build like? They look athletic.
• 28:51
  I'm like, they have to like sports.
• 28:53
  Yeah, they must have been playing sports at some point.
• 28:55
  Yeah. And they say you're dropping a
• 28:56
  little Warriors line or like a Broncos that far.
• 28:59
  Broncos being trashy. And if they if they hit on that,
• 29:02
  they'd be like, oh, and if they if they don't hit on that, then
• 29:04
  I'll not leave it. Then I'll probably go and so
• 29:06
  like, but maybe music, Oh yeah, maybe music.
• 29:12
  I'll be like, have you listened to JB's new album?
• 29:14
  Or I'll probably maybe even just go into some general stuff like
• 29:17
  the CEO that we just talked about, something like that.
• 29:20
  And then from there you can see what kind of person they are.
• 29:22
  Like if they're going with it, then you're like, Oh yeah, yeah.
• 29:25
  And he's and he's like, what's so bad about?
• 29:27
  It well, there's some tools that maybe people could use.
• 29:39
  Watch. This OK, this is a special
• 29:47
  edition song choice inspired by Astronomer CEO Andy Byron.
• 29:56
  We're going to say what song best we would play in this in
• 30:01
  this moment. I guess we we're taking it from
• 30:03
  the point. Maybe he's playing it when he's
• 30:05
  in that moment. It could be when he's going back
• 30:07
  to his wife. It could be on the car ride home
• 30:11
  from they'd be like, damn, I miss my whole life up.
• 30:13
  But see, see what songs that we think would best represent this
• 30:18
  moment. I'll go first.
• 30:20
  Yeah, you go first. I'll press my one that I have
• 30:23
  for the CEO is, you know, it's going to be a hard conversation
• 30:28
  that he has with his wife when he goes home.
• 30:30
  And probably the one thing going through his head is how in about
• 30:34
  24 hours after the whole conversation, he'll probably be
• 30:37
  this I. Mr. Lonely I have nobody for my
• 30:47
  own. Lonely I, Mr. Lonely, I have
• 30:52
  nobody for my own. But this song had you running a
• 31:00
  chart. Yeah, it still does.
• 31:02
  This was so mean. Goes out to all my players out
• 31:06
  there, man. You know, I got that one.
• 31:09
  Good girl. Daughter's always been there,
• 31:11
  man. Like took all the bullshit and
• 31:14
  one day she can't take it no more and decide to leave.
• 31:18
  Yeah, I woke up. In the middle of the night and I
• 31:21
  noticed my girl wasn't on my side.
• 31:24
  Sort of sworn I was dreaming for her.
• 31:26
  I was paining so I had to take a little ride.
• 31:29
  Backtracking on these few years trying to figure out what I do
• 31:33
  to make it go back. Oh, we know what you did.
• 31:35
  Since my girl left me, my whole life came crashing and I'm so so
• 31:41
  long Mr. Lonely. I have nobody on my own so long.
• 31:54
  Shadow CEO. Bro, that's a banger.
• 31:57
  That's exactly how he's going to be feeling.
• 32:00
  This is more in the moment one for me.
• 32:02
  So this is this is probably what the, I don't know, Scissor,
• 32:07
  maybe the most toxic artist of all time.
• 32:09
  Bro, she she always makes songs about being the sideshow, but
• 32:14
  this one is it's all about pretty much.
• 32:18
  You have them Monday to Friday and I'll keep them satisfied on
• 32:22
  the weekends. It's a little bit roll rolls a
• 32:24
  verse in this one actually, because in the weekdays she's
• 32:27
  probably keeping him and then on the weekends going back to his
• 32:29
  family. But the sauna?
• 32:38
  I actually didn't know that that she does songs like that.
• 32:41
  Or she's toxic. Hey, yeah.
• 32:43
  Damn, she really missing with people's minds, yeah.
• 33:20
  I don't care long as you hear by 10:30 no later.
• 33:24
  Then drop them. Drove you be what I want.
• 33:29
  My man is my man. Is your man hurt?
• 33:32
  Is her man too? My man is your man is her man
• 33:35
  too. My.
• 33:36
  Man, is your man hurt? That's her man.
• 33:40
  Tuesday and Wednesday, Thursday and Friday I just keep him.
• 33:46
  Satisfied. I've never listened to this
• 33:48
  lyrics, probably like that. You're 9:00 to 5:00 on the
• 33:52
  weekend, so bro, let's. Keep him satisfied.
• 33:55
  Oh. Bro.
• 33:57
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