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  Speaker 2: we have a bracket as well. How is Gary Parrish
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  Speaker 2: doing today? Have you got any sleep yet?
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  Speaker 4: I mean I probably knocked out about three and a
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  Speaker 4: half hours, which is fairly normal for this time of
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  Speaker 4: the year. But anytime I start to complain about that,
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  Speaker 4: I remind myself very quickly that my job is to
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  Speaker 4: talk about a bracket like they're a worse things I
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  Speaker 4: could be doing today. My eyes hurt. I won't lie
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  Speaker 4: and tell you my eyes feel great. My eyes are
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  Speaker 4: hurting a little bit. But I'm lucky to get to
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  Speaker 4: do this, and this is always an exciting time of
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  Speaker 4: the year.
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  Speaker 2: We love it and we appreciate you coming on and
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  Speaker 2: be doing it for many years now, with only that
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  Speaker 2: one new little year interrupted along the way. That was horrible.
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  Speaker 2: We won't ever think about that again. But let's get
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  Speaker 2: to this and we'll get We'll get through the brackets
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  Speaker 2: in a second in the next segment. But I was
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  Speaker 2: kind of it's always fun to talk. And I know
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  Speaker 2: I love this because you and Matt Norlander on the
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  Speaker 2: Iron College Basketball you kind of you guys have been
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  Speaker 2: really good about like I like, if you're not in
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  Speaker 2: that's fine. We don't care about you, and we move on.
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  Speaker 2: But this year was an interesting year. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: the brackets came out and it felt like a they
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  Speaker 2: got almost all of it right, with a couple of
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  Speaker 2: seating issues, which we'll get to in a second, but
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  Speaker 2: the biggest story all on the way was who's in
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  Speaker 2: and who's out? And mostly is Miami of Ohio in?
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  Speaker 2: You told us last Friday they're in. Doesn't matter, they're in,
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  Speaker 2: but who's out? Auburn with its sixteen losses? What about
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma and all that? So let's just start there. Did
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  Speaker 2: they get it right with the actual field of sixty
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  Speaker 2: eight and the teams that were in and the teams
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  Speaker 2: that were left out?
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  Speaker 4: I think they did. I mean it's the same sixty
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  Speaker 4: eight that I would have had, same thirty seven at
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  Speaker 4: large as that I would have had. And I think
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  Speaker 4: if you go to a website like bracketmatrix dot com
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  Speaker 4: where they take all of the brackets or at least
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  Speaker 4: lots of the brackets that are out there on the
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  Speaker 4: internet and keep track of them and like, then great
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  Speaker 4: them at the end. I don't know if it's most,
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  Speaker 4: but certainly a not insignificant percentage of bracketologists, the ones
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  Speaker 4: you see on ESPN and CBS, but also like the
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  Speaker 4: ones who are just you know, doing it for fun
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  Speaker 4: on their own little website. A significant portion got it
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  Speaker 4: right eight and that suggests that the committee was in
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  Speaker 4: line with what the general college basketball community thought should happen.
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  Speaker 4: I thought they got the four seeds exactly, the four
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  Speaker 4: number one seeds exactly right in the right order. And
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  Speaker 4: so I haven't gone back and looked at every bracket
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  Speaker 4: that I can remember over the past twenty years, but
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  Speaker 4: in my time of doing this, and maybe I'm just
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  Speaker 4: you know, prisoner of the moment, but it felt like
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  Speaker 4: that was the cleanest bracket we've ever gotten. Like there
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  Speaker 4: weren't a whole lot of complaints. I know Vanderbilt has
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  Speaker 4: gotten a little bit of attention. Some people thought it
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  Speaker 4: should be a three. Instead they were a five. I
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  Speaker 4: would have had them a four, so like they're in
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  Speaker 4: that range. I didn't even mind what they did with Miami, Ohio,
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  Speaker 4: and I thought the way they explained it made perfect
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  Speaker 4: sense to me, and so that was another thing I appreciated.
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  Speaker 4: I do those interviews with either the NCAA tournament selection
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  Speaker 4: chair or co chair every selection Sunday, right after the
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  Speaker 4: bracket comes out, and sometimes it almost feels like you're
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  Speaker 4: talking to a White House Press secretary, like you're asking
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  Speaker 4: them a question about something that is you know, there's
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  Speaker 4: no way they're going to be able to explain this well,
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  Speaker 4: but that's their job. They'll give it their best shot
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  Speaker 4: and they look ridiculous on TV. It happened last year,
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  Speaker 4: but I didn't think it happened this year at all.
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  Speaker 4: It was Keith Field, or chair or Martin Newton the
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  Speaker 4: co chair. They had answers for everything, explanations for everything,
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  Speaker 4: and their decision to place Miami, Ohio in the bracket
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  Speaker 4: based on results but then seed them based on predictive metrics.
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  Speaker 4: That totally falls in line with what they say they're
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  Speaker 4: going to do. And I think it's the proper way
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  Speaker 4: to treat a team that did take a quad three
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  Speaker 4: loss in their conference tournament. If you're complaining about the
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  Speaker 4: bracket today, you're a misguided Auburn fan or a misguided
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  Speaker 4: Oklahoma fan, but probably nobody else well.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that first of all, college Football Playoff
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  Speaker 2: Committee could take a Those are the two guys that
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  Speaker 2: the chair and the coacher. You guys have the co
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  Speaker 2: chair on CBS Sports Network, no one or talked I
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  Speaker 2: think to the chair as well well on the on
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  Speaker 2: the I College Basketball podcast. Both of those guys one
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  Speaker 2: was a Sun Belt commissioner and the other I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure where he was from. Who's the co chair of
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  Speaker 2: close Buffalo. Yeah, like that's the college football playoff committee.
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  Speaker 2: Those two dudes should do like a clinic in the
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  Speaker 2: summer and say this is how you do it. Because
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  Speaker 2: when you listen to them, they had everything dialed in,
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  Speaker 2: and you go, Okay, these guys know what they're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: They're not just sitting around having some donuts and coffee
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  Speaker 2: and watching a couple of games and saying, yeah, let's
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  Speaker 2: put a couple of big brands in there. Make sure
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  Speaker 2: that Notre Dame gets taken care of. Make sure that
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  Speaker 2: you know that Ohio State and I'm talking football gets
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  Speaker 2: taken No, these guys knew exactly what they were talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was well done. Let me get to
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  Speaker 2: the seating, because that's the important one. If people have
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  Speaker 2: learned nothing else from Gary Parrish over the last eight
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  Speaker 2: years having you on, it's not so much that a
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  Speaker 2: team gets seated too high or too low mostly too low,
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  Speaker 2: and it affects that team. It's what it does to
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the bracket. And it seems like Vanderbilt
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  Speaker 2: is the one that everyone's talking about about to seed
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  Speaker 2: this a little bit too low, and that affects more
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  Speaker 2: than just a Vanderbilt commodores.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one where it's not egregious. But I
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  Speaker 4: do think it's a bit of a miss. But I
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  Speaker 4: also acknowledge that it's a little bit nitpicking because broadly speaking,
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  Speaker 4: I think the bracket was really good, and I think
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  Speaker 4: one of the reasons the perception of the bracket's really good,
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  Speaker 4: And perhaps that's that's the real way to frame it, Like,
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  Speaker 4: who knows if a bracket's good or not. It's just
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  Speaker 4: that the way they explain the process it seems to
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  Speaker 4: line up with what they tell you they're trying to do.
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  Speaker 4: And that's the other reason. Not to get off track here,
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  Speaker 4: But that's the other reason I think this went so well,
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  Speaker 4: and the reason the bracketologists who do this for a
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  Speaker 4: living can typically fall in pretty good line with the
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  Speaker 4: actual bracket. It's because they fly people to Indianapolis and
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  Speaker 4: put them through the entire process. You know what it
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  Speaker 4: looks like you know what it feels like, you know
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  Speaker 4: how the conversations work, you know what matters and what doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: I've joked about this before. My wife is the best wife.
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  Speaker 4: She does not follow college basketball that closely, evidence being
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  Speaker 4: that I got snowed in home in a recent week
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  Speaker 4: where we were just sitting around watching college basketball as
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  Speaker 4: a family in ways that we don't normally do because
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  Speaker 4: I'm not typically there during the season too much. And
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  Speaker 4: just to emphasize the point, the graphic Stephen Pearl popped
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  Speaker 4: up during an Auburn game and she said, is that
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  Speaker 4: Bruce Pearl's? Is he related to Bruce Pearl? And I
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  Speaker 4: had to explain that whole thing, but she didn't know
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  Speaker 4: until that. And then John Shire popped up on the
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  Speaker 4: screen and she said, is that that's the Duke coach?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 4: And I said yes? And she said what happened to
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  Speaker 4: Coach K? And I said he retired and she said,
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  Speaker 4: oh yeah, I was wondering if he was coaching anywhere else.
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  Speaker 4: He was good, wasn't he? I said, yes, Coach K
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  Speaker 4: was good, honey. He was very good at coaching basketball.
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  Speaker 4: So that's where we're at. This is my point. I
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  Speaker 4: could take her to Indianapolis with me, put her through
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  Speaker 4: one of those workshops, and by the end of it
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  Speaker 4: she would know exactly what matters and what doesn't. You
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  Speaker 4: can give anybody with a decent iq, a kimpom subscription,
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  Speaker 4: access to the net and a few other metrics, and
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  Speaker 4: they can put together a bracket. And the reason I
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  Speaker 4: think the incatively is very smart to make it so
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  Speaker 4: transparent is that there's not a lot of arguments usually,
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  Speaker 4: and there weren't really last night. We all understand the process.
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  Speaker 4: We all know what you're trying to do, so that's
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  Speaker 4: what we try to do. And when we show all
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  Speaker 4: our work at the end, it kind of looks the
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  Speaker 4: same because we were all looking for the same stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why I think the bracket is largely considered good.
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  Speaker 4: But the Vanderbilt thing is a place where it just
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  Speaker 4: feels like they got it wrong. Vanderbilt right now is
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  Speaker 4: twelfth at kimpom. I have them thirteenth in the top
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  Speaker 4: twenty five, and one twelfth at kimpom would equate to
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  Speaker 4: a three seed. Thirteenth would equate to the best four
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  Speaker 4: instead that are five at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 4: Not the biggest thing. But if you're a Vanderbilt fan,
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  Speaker 4: you feel like you're underseated. And if you're a fan
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  Speaker 4: of the team having to play Vanderbilt in the first round,
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  Speaker 4: you feel like you're playing a team that's better than
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  Speaker 4: the i've seed you should be playing otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, McNeese. And then if you're Nebraska and you finally
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  Speaker 2: get your first ever tournament win, you see them in
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  Speaker 2: the second round in Nebraska's going like Fred Hoiberg's going,
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  Speaker 2: I'll wait a second, Really, is that what I got?
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  Speaker 2: I got that in the second round along the way Gonzaga,
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  Speaker 2: they're a three seed, feels like a little high for
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  Speaker 2: a team that may not have one of their best players.
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  Speaker 4: I would have had him a four, in part because
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  Speaker 4: I think that's more in line with where the resume is,
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  Speaker 4: but also because they're missing one of their two best players,
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  Speaker 4: have been missing him for a while. I think you
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  Speaker 4: and I had talked about it at some point when
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  Speaker 4: I was in Spokane for the San Francisco game on
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  Speaker 4: the sideline for CBS Sports Network. I didn't make like
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  Speaker 4: a big breaking news thing about it, But when you
• 12:43
  Speaker 4: started asking people, so, how's Brayden doing, you did not
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  Speaker 4: hear good things. It was not like always almost ready.
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  Speaker 4: I know the initial timeline was like four to eight weeks,
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  Speaker 4: and it was clear after spending a few days in
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  Speaker 4: Spokane around that campus, that it was going to be
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  Speaker 4: closer to eight than four. And now we know it
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  Speaker 4: succeeded the eight, like the eight he should have already played,
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  Speaker 4: and so I guess there's some thought that you know
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  Speaker 4: he could come back at some point, But even then,
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  Speaker 4: you're dropping in somebody who hasn't been playing basketball for
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  Speaker 4: a while. You're dropping him into a single elimination tournament
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  Speaker 4: where the dude you've been playing with and winning trophies with,
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  Speaker 4: they're used to playing with each other. Everybody's sort of
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  Speaker 4: comfortable at this point without him. Doesn't mean that you're
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  Speaker 4: not better with them, obviously, but you're probably not as
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  Speaker 4: comfortable with him just dropping it in. So this is
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  Speaker 4: not ideal. They're not the only program dealing with a
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  Speaker 4: significant injury. North Carolina's got one. B why U's got one,
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  Speaker 4: But it's yeah, it would have been a type of thing.
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  Speaker 4: If I were in the committee, I would have argued
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  Speaker 4: for instead of three. But I'll never argue against the
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  Speaker 2: what people have been waiting for is they sit around
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  Speaker 2: gonna wait a second. I just heard Gary Parrish say this,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna switch my bracket around. I'm gonna I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: It's a glorious time. Games start tonight in the first four.
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  Speaker 2: But let's get let's just get to the brackets themselves.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, just based on I'm looking at the
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  Speaker 2: CBS Sports bracket, we'll just go top left, bottom left,
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  Speaker 2: top right, bottom right and kind of go there. Duke
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  Speaker 2: is the one seed, number one overall seed. They're in
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: the East. Yukon is the number two seed in that.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: In that bracket, Gary, let's start with the Duke Blue Devils.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: We talked about injuries. They got a significant one.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: They're awesome, deserving of being the number one overall seed
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: in this bracket. John Shire is the ACC Coach of
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: the Year, legitimate National Coach of the Year candidate. He
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: replaced a lot from last season's team, most notably Cooper
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Flagging Konkin Nipple, and yet that program is still running
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: at the tip top of the sport. But Caleb Foster
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: has had surgery and still they haven't put a timetable
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: on it. He ain't gonna play in the opening game
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: and probably not in round of thirty two, and there's
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: no guarante he will play again for the Blue Devils.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Patrick Gangba also missed the ACC tournament. He is expected
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: to be back, but he hasn't played in a minute.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: And so, yeah, you'd love to have Cameron Boozer heading
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: into this NCAA tournament. But I don't know any coach
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: who wants to be down forty percent of their starting
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: lineup heading into the NCBLA tournament. And that's what Duke
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: has been, you know, in recent weeks. And then you
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: look at the bracket, at least that region, it's loaded.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: I mean Duke, Yukon, Michigan State, Kansas, UCLA, Louisville. I mean,
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: those are six programs that have won multiple NCAA tournaments.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: So some of the biggest brands in the sport all
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: shoved into one region. You talk about Tom Izzo, Bill Self,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: Rick Patino, those are Hall of Fame coaches already. Dan
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Hurley will be someday john Shire is on track to
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: be some day. So I don't remember a specific region
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: with this many brands and this many accomplished coaches still
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: operating at the tip top of the sport. But whoever,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: whoever comes out of the East, and it could be
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: Duke Yukon, Saint John's, if Darren Peterson gets going Kansas,
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: almost nothing would surprise me. But whoever comes out of
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: the East is gonna They're gonna have some big names
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: under their belt because there's no way to get out
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: of there without knocking off some of the biggest brands
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: and best coaches in college basketball.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of I think you guys called the
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: blue Blood Bracket last night. I mean, that's kind of
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: what it looks like, right with all those teams. I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: just want to see UCLA beat UCF and Yukon beat
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Furman because Mick Cronin and Dan Hurley on the sidelines.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know who the officials would be in that game, Gary,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: but I think I mean that, I mean, are you
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: kidding me? Like those two guys chewing you know what
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: the whole game.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: No, that should be the equivalent of like six months
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: in prison, Like you get a felony conviction, and just like,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: do you want to do six months federal prison or
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: do the next forty minutes of this Dan Hurley Mick
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: Croning game. You might? You might. I mean, I've never
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: been to prison. I don't know, but I've been around
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Mick and Dan and I know what that's like at least.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's not a fun assignment for any official.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: But it'll be fun to watch. It'll be fun to
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: watch on TV if we get there.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Mick Cronin is the UCLA team. We make fun of Mick,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Mick crod and all the time out here in Seattle
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: because of his constant complaining about travel. Listen, that's a
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you problem. You guys decided you wanted to go to
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: the Big ten. Not I mean, I know, maybe it
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: wasn't you necessarily, Mick, But that's a U problem with
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Usuazoo fans and OREGUS State fans say tough, you know what,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: enjoy it. But they're playing on the eat in the East.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: They don't win back there. Does that matter in the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: tournament at all? Because they don't win back I don't
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: think they won even in the tournament the last time
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: they played back East.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I mean Mick. This is like Mick complains about everything right,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Like like he can beat Perdue and then immediately find
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: something that he doesn't like about the postgame meal. It'd
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: be like, yeah, we're happy about the win, but you
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: wouldn't believe the pizzas they brought in the locker room. Like,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: you know, he's always got something to be upset about.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: But the one thing that he also has data to
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: support is that UCLA specifically, but West Coast teams in
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: general do not perform well going west to east. It
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: gets complicated for teams also going east to west, Like
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: we didn't used to travel like this in college athletics
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: for conference play. So yeah, NC State is at a
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: disadvantage flying across the country and playing at Cow or
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Stanford or whatever. But it is more dramatically undeniable going
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: west to east as opposed to east to west. And
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: it's why Mick put together a non league schedule this year.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: I believe if you go look at it, they didn't
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: leave California. They dropped out of the CBS Sports Classic.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: You know, that's a big event that they had been
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: a part of for a while with Kentucky and North
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Carolina and Ohio State. Well, for the first time ever
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: a different school was a part of that lineup. They
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: took out UCLA put in Saint John's, and I don't
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: belie that was a choice by CBS as much as
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: UCLA didn't want to go to Atlanta and play an
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Onnleague game. Like Mick is pretty adamant about this. He
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: thinks he's at a disadvantage in the Eastern time zone
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: with the UCLA basketball program. So it is on some
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: level hilarious that they sent them to Philadelphia, because I
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: can't wait to I mean, it's some man who complained
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: about seeing the Statue of Liberty twice in like a
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: side of a month as the UCLA coach, which I
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: get kind of hilarious. But now he gets the Rocky
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: statue and the Liberty Bell. I guess he'll be pitching
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: about that since.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: He will be Garry Perris joining us again. It's our
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: March Badness bracketology show here at Snoqualm Hotel and casino
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: and sports booker in the hawks Peak Sports Bar and
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Grill in that region. Tom Izzo's Michigan State team, they
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: feel a good front line, got some good guard play, Yukon.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: The experience, at least for a couple of the guys
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Saint John's which took care of Yukon a couple times
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: this year rather handily, all seemed like dangerous teams. Who
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: are the biggest threats to number one seed Duke in
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the East, who does Gary Parrish like kind of sneaking
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: through and maybe even an upset or two.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: The ones I'd be concerned about are Saint John's and
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Yukon just because you know, people thought Yukon was on
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: track to be a one seed, you know, up until
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: say two weeks ago, and still had a path there
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: if they would have won the biggest tournament. In fact,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: had they won the biggest tournament beat Saint John's Saturday
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Night in the Garden, they would have been the fourth
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: number one seed. So now they're in your region. And honestly,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: they took a loss to Arizona early at Yukon at
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: home that if they'd have been healthy, they were down
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: two starters. They probably don't lose that game just because
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: they're elite and at home, and then they would have
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: been a one seed. So now they're in your way
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: theoretically on the way to Indianapolis, also Saint John's. I
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: know Saint John's got off to a rough start, but
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: they're also nineteen and one in their past twenty they
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: won the Big East outright, won the Big East Tournament,
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: got two wins over Yukon in that stretch, two wins
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: over in CUA Tournament team Villanova. In that stretch, they
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: at the Big East player of the year and one
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: of the greatest, if not the greatest college basketball coaches
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: of all time. They're also in your path. There's a
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: scenario where in consecutive games, Duke has to beat Saint
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: John's and Yukon to get to the Final four, and
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: you might have to do that without Caleb Foster. And
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: we'll see about Patrick Gomba.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Duke deserves everything it has received this season, the number
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: one ranking, the number one overall seed, But I don't
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: love this path. This is not the one seed that
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I feel has the safest path to the final four.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: In fact, it's I think maybe the toughest, the toughest path,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: which is funny how it works that way.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Let's get to the e of the South that's on
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: the bottom left of your CBS Sports bracket. Florida is
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: the one seed, Shitty Doo, our friend from Wazoo and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Company defending Champs. Houston is the two seed in the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: in the South, and that immediate I think immediately went
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: well well. Calvin Sampson two seed dangerous in Florida. Wally
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Zerbiak on Sunday Night was adamant about this is not
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: your normal Kilvin Sampson defense. First Houston team, How dangerous
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: is the two seed to the number one seed Florida?
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Very in part because if you get to the Elite
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: eight and it's a one versus two matchup, that game
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: is going to be played at the Toyota Center in Houston, Texas.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: It's going to be a home game for Houston. And
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: this is the point I made last night on or
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: two nights ago on the Ion College Basketball Podcast. I
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: understand that this is allowed, Like I get the bracketing principles.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: You know, as I've mentioned before, the NCAA is very
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: transparent with how they do this and what they're allowed
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: to do and what they're not allowed to do, what
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: matters and what doesn't. So I understand how this happens.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: It is just a fundamental flaw with bracketing. Principles that
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: if I were in charge, I would change. Not everybody would.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: This is not a consensus, but here's my point, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: I guess maybe it's something that I care about because
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I watched it up close and felt how unfair it felt.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: What I mean is Florida is the one seed they earned.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: That.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: That's what the committee to every bracketologist by the time
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: we got to six pm Eastern on Sunday, had Florida
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: as the fourth number one. Not really an argument. Then
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: they get placed in the South Region, which is where
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: they would go as the fourth number one. Nobody's arguing
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: they are allowed to then take Houston as the best
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: number two and put them with the worst number one.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: No argument there. But in this very specific set of circumstances,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: what that creates is a possible matchup. In fact, the
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: most likely matchup you could get in the Elite eight
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: would be a Florida Houston game. And if we get there,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: the one seed that spent four plus months, nineteen weeks
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: earning that one will have to play a road game
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: in the Elite eight against the two seed, and I
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: don't think that's fair. I've talked to the committee chairs
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: about this. They will every time tell you two things,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: one ones and twos. Meeting the Elite eight only about
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: thirty percent of the time. So to account for that
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: and manipulate the bracket because of that, you're doing it
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: for something that's not gonna happen on average about seventy
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: percent of the time. Okay, fine, but it still happens
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: thirty percent of the time, and it is the most
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: likely thing to happen. So think about this, like the
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: NBA Draft lottery. Nobody is actually the fate, like has
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: great odds to win the lottery. It's like fourteen percent
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: is the best, but you do, but that is the best.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: You know, that's the best and the most likely matchup
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: you can get in the Elite eight always, barring some
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: weird kim Pum numbers, is going to be one versus two.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: And when I say I lived through this, soughtup close.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: My last year before I moved to CBS Sports, I
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: was the Memphis beat writer covering John Caliperry's Tigers. They
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: played four plus months, earned the number one seed in
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: the West Region two thousand and six in CAA tournament,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: UCLA was the number two seed. The West Region was
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: in Oakland, and they got to the Elite eight. It's
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: one seed Memphis, two seed Ucla. And you walk into
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: the building and it's fifteen thousand UCLA fans and like
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: two thousand Memphis fans. Memphis was in a road game
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: as the one seed. That didn't seem right. I remember
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: John Keller Perry screaming about it. And though nobody is
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: really yelling about this right now other than me, I
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: guess just trust me when I tell you, if we
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: get to that game, everybody who talks about this stuff
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: on TV is gonna look up and go, hold up,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: why is Florida as the one seed outright SEC champ
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: having to play a lower seeded teams in its city?
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Why is Florida playing Houston in Houston? Does that seem fair?
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Everybody will repeat what I'm saying if we get to
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: that game. But because of the way the bracketing principles
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: are allowed, it's a totally allowable thing to do. I
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: just think it's a flaw in the process. I get
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: maybe I'm the me and Kelvin Sampson right now might
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: be the only people who care about this, but or
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: rather me and Todd Golden right now might be the
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: only people who care about this, but it's a flaw
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: in the system that I think should be addressed.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: In that region. Illinois is a three seed. We know
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: they can score, they can't defend. It's like first team
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to whatever is gonna win that game. So Nebraska is
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the four seed. They've never won an NCAA tournament game.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Who are the dangerous teams to Florida and Houston in
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: that bracket?
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: I think Illinois, obviously, because you had the best offense
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: in the country in terms of adjusted offensive efficiency. So
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I know the cliche is defense wins championships. And it
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: is interesting. The three best teams in the country the
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: ones that come off the board one two three, Duke, Arizona, Michigan,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: And this wasn't even really debatable by the time we
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: got to the end. They're one two three on the
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: seed line. There're one two three in the top twenty
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: five and one one two three in the net Ken Palm, Evan, Mia, Bart,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Torovick everywhere. Interestingly, they're also one two and three in
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: adjusted defensive efficiency. The three best teams in the country
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: are also the three best defensive teams in the country.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: They're also very good on offense, but they are the
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: best teams on the defensive end of the core, so
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: this might be a year or defense wins championships. But
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Illinois is the best offensive team in the country at
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: least there's some data to support that, and a great
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: offensive team is always dangerous. Having to deal with Houston
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: in Houston if it comes to that, I don't love that,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Like I would rather play if I'm Florida, any other
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: two seed anywhere else before I had to play Houston
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: in Houston, and so that's obviously a big hurdle. But frankly,
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: I'd be surprised if anybody other than Florida or Houston
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: came out of there. I think it does get to
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: those two in the Elite eight and made the best
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: team win. But one of those teams will have fifteen
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: thousand fans and the other one will have very few.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Is Vanderbilt dangerous? North Carolina's got a major injury, so
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I kind of take them off the page, Like North
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Carolina's maybe what maybe one win? Ish right, they'll probably
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: beat vcul though people might take that as an upset
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and then maybe lose the next round. But how dangerous
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: could Vanderbilt be?
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: Well, they've got a little guard in Tyler Tanner, who's
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: a terrific story. Like he was a borderline top one
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: hundred and fifty recruit coming out of high school. He's
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: a local kid from the Nashville area. Had signed with
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: the previous staff, but when Mark Benson took over, was
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: like prioritized him. Hey, we still want you. But he
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: was not supposed to be a program changer. And if
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: it weren't for Darius Acuff, he might be the SEC
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: player of the year. He's terrific. Little guard, big hair
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: can go for thirty. Those guys are Mark Madness legends,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: So yeah, they're dangerous, but they're also flawed and we're
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: mostly I don't believe that this applies to them, but
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: teams like this sometimes where they have incredible computer numbers
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: but you look at the substance of the resume and
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: you're like, okay, but what have they really done besides
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: being a bunch of bad teams badly That was their
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: story through the first couple of months of the season.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: They had a great record, incredible computer numbers, there wasn't
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: must substance to it, and then they came back to
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: the pack a little bit in the SEC but they
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: just blew out Florida in the tournament, only lost to
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Arkansas because a cuff went nuts. I don't think they'll
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: come out of there, but absolutely I coul them upsetting
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: somebody along the way.
• 30:02
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• 30:19
  Speaker 2: West Arizona is the one seed perdue your Big Ten
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Tournament champions. Where the hell have my boiler Maker's been
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: all year? That's the Purdue team. They're a number two seed.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Where's that been? Gary? I have Fletcher Lawyer in Brayden
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Smith decide, Yeah, you know what trick coffin Right now,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: it's a time. Now we'll go ahead and hit the switch.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: So now everybody is like, okay, is this the team
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: that was raped number one in the preseason? And I
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: get it because they looked the part man. You you
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: don't stumble into winning the Big Ten Tournament. You've got
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: to beat some monsters to get that done.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: You do.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: They did it, you do. But that's that felt like
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: more of a program win than anything else. That felt
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: like to me, a proud program with a great and
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: an incredible accomplished corps that was ranked number one in
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: the preseason, no contention to get a one seed, was
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: supposed to win the Big Ten. Didn't even sniff that,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: and like woke up on Sunday and was like, hey, hey,
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: we were supposed to get all these trophies and have
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: all these things, and we screwed it up for a
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: variety of reasons. But we can still get this one
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: today here in front of our fans. This is the
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: most important thing to the world right now for us.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: I'm Braden Smith, I'm Trey Coffin Wren. This is the
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: last time we'll ever do this together, play in this event,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: try to win this trophy. Let's go do it. Cuttnets
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: one more time in our homestay. Like it felt like
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: they came to the game with that, and Michigan was
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: like we locked up the one seed, you know, like
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: we're good and like, no matter what happens, we're a
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: one seed in the Midwest. We could win today by forty,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: lose by forty, and when you have I know you're
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: a golfer, you'll understand this. Think about how focused you
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: are on seventeen in a match tied or down one,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: as opposed to on twelve up four. You just don't,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: you know, you don't, you don't look, you don't maybe
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: walking around and look at the putt from the other
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: side the way you might on seventeen, and you just
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: lose a little focus and the other person's extremely focused.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: And that happens in basketball too, and more than anything,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I think that's that's the explanation for Michigan Purdue why
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: it went that way. But I do have Purdue going
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: to the Elite eight. I don't have him in the
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: final four. I do have him in the Elite eight.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: And if I were Tommy Lloyd, a former zag assistant,
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I'd be thrilled with this region, Like, I, yeah, you
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: got to deal with Darius Acuff. And that's the type
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: of guard who could go Kimba Onya or go d
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Rose Onya. He's he's he's nice. But I look in
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: there and I go, there's not another team in our
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: region that has been as consistently as good as US
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: all season and it's really not even close. I know
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: the Zags have thirty wins, but they also do that
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: in the WCC and they don't have Braden Huff right now.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: You Purdue has been all over the place much of
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: the season. You know, Miami's got a bunch of wins,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: but I don't know that they scare you. Wisconsin is
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: just like a can beat anybody Big Ten team, but
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: he has also shown the ability to lose a lot
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: in the Big Ten. Like if you asked me, not
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: who's going to win the national championship, but just if
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: I had to bet my house on one team to
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: go to the Final four, I think the safest bet
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: is Arizona A because they're awesome, B Because I don't
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: think there's anybody in that region that if they line
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: up and play a B level game for them, I
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: don't think they lose.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: How much a threat is Arkansas, especially with maybe the
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: best player in the country not named Darren Peterson.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I mean we see this in college basketball sometimes it's
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: at the tip top of the sport. Kimba Walker at Yukon,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Shabbaz Napier at Yukon. I know those were different level
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: players but they were both incredible. Put the team on
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: your back. Guards that run through a bracket. Derreck Rose
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: did it at Memphis. People forget because Mario Chalmers hit
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: a three to force overtime, then Kansas wins the national championship.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: But if you go look at Dee Rose's run through
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: that NCAA tournament, it's like an all time great statistical
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: run through the bracket. And Darius Acuff is that type
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: of guard. I mean even John call Perry says it.
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: You know, he in a self serving way, you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: to sort of point out the things you're done. He's like, listen,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I've coached a lot of these. I think he said
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: something along the lines of this on Sunday. I coached
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: a lot of these. You know, I've had a number
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: one picks. I've had two MVPs. I think he's the
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: only I think there's only three coaches in the history
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: of college basketball. I think this is a trivia that have
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: ever had multiple NBA MVPs, and it is John Wooden,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Dean Smith, and John Cali Perry. I think that's right.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: And so John was like, I've had multiple MVPs, I've
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: had number one picks, and this this kid's just like them.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you, he's just like them. He can go
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: in that league, that being the NBA and do what
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Derek Rose did, do what Shake goyotis. Alexander is doing
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: a different kind of player. But yet, if you were
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: trying to identify who is the one player in this
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: sport who can go for twenty eight one game, thirty
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: three the next, twenty nine the next and you look
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: up and they're in the Elite eight and their seed
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: does not align with that. In other words, he's just
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: outperforming what this team is supposed to be doing, like
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Kimba did with Yukon. It's it's Darius Akup, that's the one.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I'm not predicting it necessarily, but if you told me
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: he he averages thirty one and eight and takes Arkansas
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: of the Final four, He's the type of electric guard
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: that could do that. And he is, in my opinion,
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: the most fun player in college basketball, Like just an
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: absolute blast to watch down in Memphis. Me and my boys,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know, we're going through it
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: a little bit. Traded Jaron Jackson, traded Desmond Bang, John Malay.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: It's gonna move soon. We gotta find some new favorite
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: players like my boys jerseys they're not gonna hold up anymore.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: And uh, we've settled in on if the grizz end
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: up with Darius A Cuff Junior and we got to
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: get some Grizzlies a Cup jerseys, we'd be we'd be
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: perfectly happy with that. He is a special talent.
• 36:16
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• 36:20
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• 36:25
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• 36:35
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• 40:43
  Speaker 2: you gotta understand up here in Seattle. I mean, it's
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• 40:49
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  Speaker 2: They're here.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I know you're you're the Super Bowl MVP is from
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: my hometown.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's no. So we don't want to go
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: all that but this, but bracketology. Everyone gets fired up
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: for it in this neck of the woods, even if
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: our two big schools, Washington and Watching the state aren't
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: in it. And I have a minute for well wa
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: WASU was in a couple of years ago. Gonzaga though,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: is in which we talked about earlier. Let's get to
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the Midwest. Number one Michigan number two, Iowa State. Good
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: good region there. Let's talk about the two top seeds
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: and the path for those two to get to the
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: final four.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: It feels like that's where we're headed. I don't want
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: to say that neither of those teams could lose before
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: the Elite eight, because that would obviously be a ridiculous
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: thing to say. This is March madness for a reason.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: But if you watch how the season has unfolded, those
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: two teams are clearly, like clearly a level above anybody
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: else in that re Like there's a gap between Michigan
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: and Iowa State, I guess, but whatever gap there is,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: it's smaller than the gap between Iowa State and everybody
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: else in that region, at least in my opinion, So
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: I think we're probably headed there. Alabama is, you know,
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: always dangerous because of the style of play. You know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: they play fast, They shoot fifty four percent of their
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: shots from three, so you know they're probably not gonna
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: go seventeen of thirty five on you. But if they
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: do go seventeen to thirty five on you, you got
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: a problem. But I don't know if you saw, but
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: they had a player get arrested earlier this week on
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: a marijuana charge, and so we'll see how that impacts
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: his availability for the NCAA Tournament. Texas Tech is the
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: five seed there. JT. Toppen is their best player. He's
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: the Big twelve player of the year. He or he
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: was the reigning Big twelve Player of the year. He
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: tore his ACL late in the season. He's not available.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: So Alabama got legal issues. Texas Tech has a roster
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: availability issues. Virginia has been good, but is that good
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: in a weak acc or good enough to actually mess
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: around with Michigan and Iowa State. I'm not sure. So
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: I do think we're probably headed towards Michigan and Iowa
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: State in the Elite eight, and then anything other than
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: that Wolverine's team inning up in the final four would
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: be a disappointment at this point. Even while Duke was
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: ranked number one in the Apeople for the past few weeks,
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Michigan was in the betting markets considered the favorite to win.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: The incident of LA Tournament Dusty May is proof of
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: if you have the resources and the understanding of how
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: college basketball works today and a competent general manager and staff,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: you can flip things pretty quickly. Remember they had to
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: fire an alum in Juwan Howard. It was a mess,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: and they hired the right guy. They have provided him
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: with the proper resources, and this is the most important thing.
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: He under He grasped quicker than most where the sport
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: was headed and had to flourish in it. John Shire
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: did as well. There's some coaches who have others have
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: struggled with it. But if you go back and look
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: at the way this Michigan team was built. The transfer
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: portal opened during the incident of LA Tournament. They signed
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Yaxel Lindenburgh to a deal before the insta of LA
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Tournament was even done. They knew before last season was
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: over exactly where they were going, exactly what deals needed
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: to get done, exactly how they were gonna roster build
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: in advance in the season, and they did it perfectly.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: That team's been awesome and it's now, you know, a
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: very realistic candidate to win a national championship.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I just feel like watching them. Duke gave you know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the Duke game in Washington, d C. When Duke was
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: fully healthy. Duke's frontline gave them problems like that that
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: really they don't usually have because they've got you know,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Lexi Bergs unbelievable. I mean, he actual is unreal. They've
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: got a post player that's that plays and is a
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: seventh true seven footer. When their guards are shooting the ball, well,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: they are really tough out. They to me look like
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: as complete a team as there is. I don't care
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: what happened to the Big Ten tournament. I just I
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: kind of liked them all the way, to be honest
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: with you, Gary, I mean I kind of like them
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: all the way. If things are going and they stay healthy,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I think that's the team to be, period, end of story.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: I don't you know, I can't argue intelligently against that.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: They've They've looked a part third at can Palm. Right now,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: they are top ten in both offensive efficiency and defensive
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: efficiency number one and adjusted defensive efficiency, Like these are
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: all of the things you have to check typically to
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: check to win the NCAA tournament. Anybody can go to
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Final four and Kevin Keats at nc State, Porter Mosa
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: at Loyal in Chicago, the Shaka Smart at VCU, Jim
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: laernegat George Mason. Like I'm not exaggerating, Almost anybody can
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: go to an Elite eight or to a Final four,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: but to actually get to the Final four and then
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: win two more games, like, that's another level of basketball
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: team usually, and what you typically have to have is
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: a competent coach, somebody who like when you talk about
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: him in the industry, you go, oh, yeah, that guy
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: can coach. You gotta have that. And then you've got
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: to have roster continuity from one season to the next,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: like it helps when some of these guys have been
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: in your program for multiple years. And then you need
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: NBA talent. I know, you're trying to win a college
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: basketball tournament, but NBA players are the people who win
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: those usually, and they don't. Not every top two or
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: three seed has all of those things. Like Nebraska's got
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: a great coach, but they don't have NBA players, So
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: how far can you go with that. Michigan's got at
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: least three projected for a round picks. They've got roster
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: continuity carry over from last season. Dusty Maye has already
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: been to one Final four. When he took the Michigan job,
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: he could have had any job that was opened if
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: he wanted to be the Louisville coach. He could have
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: been the Louisville coach, so they check every box to
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: win a national championship. They're not my pick, but there
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: are a lot of peoples, and it's the most sensible
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: thing you could do.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Probably, all right, we'll wrap it up with Gary Perish
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: for this. The five to twelve matchups Saint John's Northern
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Iowa that's in the east, five to twelve in the South,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Vanderbilt McNeese in the west, Wisconsin and High Point, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: in the midwest Texas Tech an Akron. Of those five twelves,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: which one do you think is ripe for an up?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: By the way, people, there's no money back guarantee here.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Gary's doing this for free, so there's no you can't
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: come back and yell at him later. But which of
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: those do you like?
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I always look where the higher seeded power conference team
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: is not the team that it has been most of
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: this season, and that's obviously Texas Tech. They've lost three
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: straight games, they lost their best player to a torn
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: acl and they're matched up with Akron team that's won
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: like thirty games. So it's the classic mid major team
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: that's won a bunch against a power conference team that's
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: missing its best player and is limping into the Nsiblay tournament.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: That's the type of place you can sometimes find that
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: five to twelve upset. What I think is interesting is
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: if you look at the eleven six is yes, like
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: half of them check the box. I just explained. One
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: of the six seeds is I want to make sure
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: I got it right here. North Carolina. They're missing Caleb Wilson,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: their best player. He's done for the year. Another six
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: seed is Louisville Mike keil Brown Junior, their best player.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Didn't play in the a SEC tournament. He is expected
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: to play in the NCAA tournament, but if he does,
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: he will have not played in a while. Another six
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: seed is BYU. They lost one of their top three players,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Richie Saunders, to a torn aco late in the season
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: and then spiraled. De Bonsa got him a few wins
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: here and there because he's amazing, but that team's not
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: the same team it once was. But they got a
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: seed based on the resume they put together when Richie
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Saunders was available, at least in part. So if you're
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: looking for six to elevens, I just gave you three
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: six's that are missing a key rotation piece. If not
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: its best player, or at the very least its best
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: player hasn't been playing lately. That tends to make teams vulnerable.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: I'd focus there if I were looking for those types
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: of upsets.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Is there any other lower seeded team it could be,
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't even matter, like it can be
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: a double digit low seed, or even maybe a single
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: digit low seed like a nine or something that that
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: you think could maybe make some noise or cause people problems.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know that Santa Clara is going to go
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: on a run deep in the bracket, because I think
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: if they win their first they probably run into Iowa
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: State and then that gets real hard. But if you're
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: looking for a thing that's gonna quote be an upset
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: by seed and by point spread, but not a big one,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: even though it sounds like it would be a big one,
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: it's Kentucky. Santa Clara, Kentucky, everybody knows, spent more than
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: twenty million dollars on its roster. They also have been
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: missing for much of the season two of their top
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: three players in Jalen Low and Jade and Quainton's. They've
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: been up and down all season. Santa Clara won twenty
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: six games a season in a three bid West Coast Conference.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Herbsindek like once took n C State to fight straight
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: into the lay tournaments. They didn't know what they had there.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: He's not the most exciting coaching college basketball, but he
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: is one of the best just in terms of, hey man,
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: here's some players, go coach. He can do that really well.
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: So he's got a twenty six win team against the
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Kentucky team that's been all over the place and his
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: shorthand they're only like two point underdogs. So if Kentucky
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: loses Santa Clara, oh buddy, they're gonna melt down Big
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: Blue Nation. But in reality, just in terms of a
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: basketball game that's gonna be played, that won't even be
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: that big of an upset. If you're looking for a
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: double digit seed to advance at least to the round
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: of thirty two, I throw it. I throw it on
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Santa Clara because there's not much difference in quality of
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: basketball team between them and Kentucky. There's a big difference
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: in quality in what the payroll looks like. One team's
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: making a lot of money, the other team not nearly
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: as much. But in terms of just like Hey, we've
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: been playing basketball for nineteen weeks. Does your basketball team
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: look like there's not much difference between those two teams.
• 50:40
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• 50:42
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• 50:44
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• 50:47
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• 50:50
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• 50:51
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• 50:54
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• 50:58
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• 51:01
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• 51:11
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• 51:36
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• 51:38
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• 51:40
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• 51:42
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• 51:43
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  Speaker 2: But let me start with this. I don't know if
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: you saw this story. It had been leaked out a
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: while ago, and then it kind of came to the
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal had it today, and then all of
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: a sudden, Hi else is picking it up now. And
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, man, I swear, there's there's we all
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: love the NFL and there's times we hate the NFL.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if you saw this story that
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the season is actually going to open on a Wednesday. Yeah,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: so the Seahawks are going to play at home on
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: a Wednesday against an undetermined opponent, because is it the
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Are the forty nine ers and Rams playing Thursday in Australia?
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what we're here, and yeah that's ye. Forty
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: and Rams are upstaging you and what they're doing. NFC West, Yeah,
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: they are the NFC West. Battles continue and you're you're
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: being upstaged. I would not be happy about that. I mean,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: you're when you're the champ, and I'm saying this in
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: all objectivity, when you're the champ, you should own that.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: But the greed of the NFL is, let's do this.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: And I don't know, have you done international games before?
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: Have you?
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: Have you traveled on these things?
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I did not, We've They've done two and I and
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: both times I was covering the team and travel with them,
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: and both times they sent our sports director, which was fine.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: I was good with that they sent Aaron, So I
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: gotta not go to Germany or London.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: The one thing is is I've been to London for
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: one and I've been to Mexico City for another. Mexico
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: City there's a lot of Iron fans, so that was
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: kind of different. But I went to London and what
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I did there is and look, they're doing this purely
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: for finances.
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: But just a real quick story.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I went to London with the Raiders actually, and it
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: was the Raiders and Dolphins, and I went into a store.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: It was like a Nike store that had every jersey
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: you could ever think of. I mean, they're really really
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: cool to go to because nobody's really rooting for a team.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: They don't really know what they're doing. And I walked
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: around in that Nike store and the said, tell me
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: something about American football and they didn't have a clue,
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Like they don't know anything about it. There's I mean,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: because the NFL is feeding you a bunch of crap
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: because what they think is is like, oh, it's just
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: there's so much demand for it. There's so much and
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: they're just doing it because they're getting paid. Because honestly,
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: I'm in a Nike store people are buying jerseys. This
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: is right downtown London, and I'm asking them questions about
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: the NFL, like almost like you know when you do
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Jeopardy and those eggheads will like they know everything, but
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: it's like how long? How much is a field goal worth?
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: Eight points?
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Sorry, Bob, that's wrong, you know, and we all laugh
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: about it, but like they don't know anything, and I
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: would ask you, like, well, what do you think of
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: the game. This was like the Saturday before the game,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: and they're like what's going on? Like, yeah, there's an
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: NFL football game. You're buying a jersey and they're like, yeah,
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: we just thought this was kind of cool, but we
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: don't really know anything about football like they have it.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: It hasn't really progressed in those countries. And then now,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: like you said, they're actually going you know, Brazil and Germany.
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: And all these different places.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: It's it's for the money, it's for the internet. But
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: don't don't get it backwards. These countries really aren't really
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: they don't understand our sport and they really don't care
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: about it, but you're being upstage. Nonetheless, we are.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Totally in Seattle getting upstage by La and San Francisco,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: and that's that's that to me is the only part
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: of it. Because listen, I'm with you. I've been very
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: consistent ugly American for years in terms of what are
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: we doing, like like why do we bring in regular
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: season games to places that really have no die hard
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: rooting interests? Why are teams in our country losing home games?
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Fans losing a home game a year for for this?
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: I don't get you know, there's a rumor you know,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: like it well not rumor. I don't want to get
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: to that, but you know, like every year of the
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: NHL has a couple of games in Europe. But you
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: know what, when they go over there, it's like, yeah,
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: we're playing. Like if it was the cret for example,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: like and they played in Sweden, well Adam Larson plays
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: for them, or Finland they got free finished, but like
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Denmark they got the young kids. Like that makes sense, right,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Like you know you're gonna go play in Europe for
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: hockey team whoever plays over there. Almost every NHL team
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: probably everyone does. How's the European players And they're like, hey, man,
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: there's our guy. He's from you know, small town, you know,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Switzerland or whatever it might be. Can that makes sense?
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: So NFL players from Europe. Mexico City is a whole
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: different that's a whole different ballgame. I mean I heard
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: that was I heard people that have gone down there.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: It's like you're with security the whole time. You're like, yeah, right, yeah.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they get it.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, like look at tonight. Yeah well, I mean,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: like look at tonight the World Baseball Classic, which I'm
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: sure is a favorite of all Seattle Marion fans everywhere.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: But anyway, I digress. The WBC is a full like
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: that's an international competition. Hockey's an international, Basketball is international.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: I get what the NFL is trying to do. I
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: really do. It's it's a total business grab and that's
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: what sports is. So let's not get a backwards But
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: like you said, there should be some things honestly, you
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: don't need to own every day of the week. Like
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: my formard partner, Greg Papa, You're a good friend of mine. Yes,
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: had floated before, like, hey, let the NFL at some point.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Here's the extension of this too. The NFL at some
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: point is going to own every day because they're just
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: gonna get too greedy. And I do remember we all
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: do during the pandemic out of necessity, they had to
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: do certain games. But it's not enough for them to
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: just own now Thursdays, Mondays, Sundays. I mean, at some point,
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: if this wind here's the scary part about it too.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: If this Wednesday gets massed, this Wednesday thing gets massive ratings,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: and it will because it's the NFL, it's the opening,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: it's all these things. They're gonna start going, hey, if
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: three days of dominance is good, let's add Wednesday. And
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: then the players are like, seriously, we're doing a Wednesday
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: thing now, Like this thing will never stop until they
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: have complete world dominations.
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: And that's what they're trying to get.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: No.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: I agree. By the way, I did cover Tuesday night
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: football at SOFI Stadium. I was I covered, I covered
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: the Tuesday football so Friday it was like now that
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: and that was that was the greasiest thing ever too,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: because if you remember what happened with that, we got
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: to Thursday or Thursday, So Thursday or Friday that week,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: the Rams had a whole bunch of guys that were sick,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and they and they went to the NFL. We can't
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: play we we would you know, we'd have to play
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: too many guys from the squad. So literally it was
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: it was like their key guys were all like a
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: bunch of their key guys were sick. And so what
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: they did is they said, all right, well let's move.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: We're gonna move the game to Tuesday. That should help
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: you guys. And it just screwed Seattle. Like it was
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: just like, okay, you know what an injury an illness?
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine? So they played. So we went down there,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: we flew down on a flew down on a Monday
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: and covered a Tuesday night football game. And it was
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: the oddest thing ever, like just strange as hell, and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: but I get but you know what that was out
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: of the box. Okay, that that was also a time
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: in our world we that we you know, all kidding aside,
• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: that hopefully we never have to do again, and we've
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: all learned from that. But we did that because we
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: didn't know, like the the unknown of the pandemic. We
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: know when the NFL season is gonna start. This is
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: what you just said. It's a money grab. And the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: fact that they're making the Super Bowl champions and their
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: fans have a game on a Wednesday. By the way,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: the Mariners are playing that same day at the stadium
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: next door at six forty. So I'm sure there would
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: be throw Wow, I'm sure they're gonna be throwing. They say, hey,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: you're gonna move your game to one right to one forty. Yeah,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: but even then, like that game gets out of I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know what they would do and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: what would they do? What do they do the they
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: maybe have to push the Mariner game back to like
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: seven thirty or something, yeah, something like that. So it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: kind of like, like I guess this sense they can Yeah,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: I guess in a sense they could do it. They
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: did the staggered start, but that was for the playoffs,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: right on a Monday night football game. Yeah, the money
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: it was No, it was as a Sunday though. They
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: played Tampa this year. The Tampa game, they played Tampa
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: at one and the Mariners played at five or something
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: like that or four. God, what a nightmare. I mean,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: it was cool downtown.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: But yeah, let me add more to conspiracy theory too.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: And look, I just I just believe this, and I
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: am in conspiracy theorist, especially when it.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Comes to sports. They wouldn't do this with the Dallas
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't do this though some of the major market teams.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't do this to the Giants. In other words,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: if you win a super Bowl as a high profile
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: team like that, they're not gonna they're not going to
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: overshadow it. But Seattle wins the super Bowl and they're like, well,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: we got to do it this way. I mean, that's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: that's how I feel about.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: It, because we're sitting their two biggest rivals to play
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: on Thursday in Australia. Like yeah, so you don't even
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: get here's the thing with Seattle then, like normally, when
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: you're the super Bowl champion, you play on Thursday, then
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: you get the advantage because you have like a mini
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: bye week and so, but then if their two division
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: rivals have the same damn thing, they get the same thing. Yeah,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: it's just stupid, Yeah, idiotic, stupid. NFL. All right, nothing
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: you can do. We'll play on Wednesday. And the way
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: we go and I think I think Pop is right.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, they already.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Play he said that for years.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, play Saturdays. They play Saturdays already on uh in
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: the in December, you know they flexus games on Saturdays,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and then you know, we'll have a Black Friday game again,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: Christmas game, Tuesday will.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: Happen they're talking about.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're when they're talking about Thanksgiving Eve game. So
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: that's another Wednesday.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: That's Wednesday.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: You think they're just doing these things, but they're started.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: They're floating trial balloons. And if Wednesday blows up, and
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: it will because it's the NFL, there's gonna be two
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: this year. So all of a sudden, oh, Wednesday's a
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: day we can do. So now it's Wednesday, it's Thursday,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: it's Sunday, it's Monday. It's late in the season, Saturday. Like,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: that's just that's what it's gonna do. It's gonna go
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: to eighteen games because it was never meant to have seventeen,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: so they're gonna add that. You're gonna have that extra day,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: which is okay because you have it's LUs preseason, but
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: still world domination a little bit at a time.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: That's what they're doing, John Love joining us. Yeh, By
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: the way, how are mornings? How are the morning shows?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: How's mornings? It's not like middle of the night for you.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, three to six am. I got up at one
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: and thirty this morning. It was it was just glorious. Yeah,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: one thirty in the morning today, my alarm went off. Normally,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: if I was a younger man, I would have just
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: drank the whole.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: Thing, especially given today that St Patrick stay.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: By the way, that's what I should have done. And
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: and by the way, I did say, you know, I
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: did talk about early when we have this conversation today,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: that you were, you know, in the casino, and that's
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: straight and everything. I can't believe you're sober enough here
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: between the whiskey and the green beer that I'm sure
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: is under your table right now. You're doing a great job.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: There's no skill, there's there's no there's no whiskey here,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: I mean one, no whiskey on my table. And actually
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I don't see any green beer at the casino. This
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: is a casino, dude. They don't care about Saint Patrick's state.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: People are here anyway.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: It doesn't true, it doesn't People are working the bauchery
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: in a casino twenty four seven, three sixty five. They
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: don't need a special day for it.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Plus, I'll wait for the whiskey. Tell I'll wait for
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: the whiskey till I get home. This is amateur day.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: There's like New Year's Eve. You don't want to mean
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: is doing that and then driving home? So all right,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: So the NBA, the story came out yesterday from how
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: do these is it? Sham's sean, let me just go,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: Why can't why listen? Why can't you get an insider
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: ESPN for n B A whose name we can all pronounce, right,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: like at least we could shorten. I guess we called
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: yeah after Well, he thinks he's an insider for everything anyway.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: So the story came out yesterday that the NBA is
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: gonna have a vote next week and they're gonna have
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: a vote to have a vote. If they vote, okay,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: then they canna have another vote in July. We're having
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: a meeting to have another meeting. You like those kind
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: of companies, John don't, And we're gonna have a meeting that.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Everybody loves meetings.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: We had Gary Parrish on yesterday, our buddy from CBS.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: We just finished our bracketology show with him, but we
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: talked to him yesterday briefly too, because in Memphis he
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: covers the NBA. Obviously that's a big part of what
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: he does on his daily radio show. And you know,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: he didn't have the best things to say about the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: current state of the league. What would you say somebody
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: said to you about this current state of the NBA.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Well, it's it's by far the worst sport going and
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know why the NBA is letting it get
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: to this point. But just just briefly, tanking's a major problem.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: But then again, this is the best college basketball draft
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: probably and I'll include two thousand and three in Lebron
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my lifetime. I mean, it's it
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: starts with the bonsa and a Cup junior and you guys, know,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: you guys watch college basketball. Mean, there's probably ten there's
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: probably ten freshmen that are going to be very big
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: impact and there's probably three guys that are franchise changers.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: So everybody's tanking. So you have that issue. The overall
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: style of play is the worst it's been in any
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: of our lifetimes. It's threes, free throws and the lucas.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: It's just constant complaining. It's it's every single time. It's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: berating of officials constantly. It's you go to a break
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: and every player runs to an official. It's it's it's
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: just it's so bad. So the style of play is bad,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: the tanking. Hey, you're gonna okay, the Sonics are back.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Oh geeze Courreier is not playing Luca's not playing that
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: because they wear devices that say, hey, by the way,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: you're tired. Oh I'm tired. I can't play anymore. Like,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: it's not the glove playing eighty two games. It's they're
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: having issues right now because the players are mad because
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: they can't they can't win awards because they can't play
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: in sixty five of the eighty two games. Like, so
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: that's gonna get dropped up at next year to sixty.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it really is. I'm not just
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: saying this for the effect. Look, I'm incredibly happy that
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: you're going to that. Seattle's going to get the Sonics back.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: In all serious it's it's one of the best sports
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: cities in America and certainly on the West Coast. Ton
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: of respect, but the way the league is right now
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: will disgust you. I mean the way that it's played,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: the guys sitting out for you know, management issues, that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: just everything about the game right now is is really bad.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: And I don't know what the league is going to
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: do about it. You know, Steve Kirk suggests they go
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: down to you know, cut ten games off the schedule
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: because guys are hired. It's like the last time you
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: guys remember the NBA, Like, guys didn't do that. We
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: played eighty two and it was a gauntlet to see
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: who could win the sixteen. And that's how the game
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: is supposed to be played. And it's just not it's
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: the NBA has And I'm not trying to be negative
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: about it, because I'm glad Seattle's getting a team, but
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: it's by far of all the major sports, in the
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: worst shape. And it's every single way. And then they're
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: trying to come up with these rules for non tanking.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: They're talking about like making it deadline earlier and everything. Fine,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 3: Like you're a team like Utah, right you have you
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: don't have a superstar player. Aja de Bonsa from BYU
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: plays thirty minutes away. You can find Utah five ten
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars if they get the BONSA. That's all
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: they want out of this whole thing. So you can
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: make it earlier, they're just going to tank earlier. There's
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: just there's a lot of problems with the NBA right now,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: which isn't to say that it would be great. Wouldn't
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: be great to have it back in Seattle, because I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: believe it's going to be, but they have a lot
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: of work to do. It's a disgusting product right now.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking at Kevin Durant. Last year's was here.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: We had Kevin Durant as a rookie. You played eighty
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: of eighty two games, played seventy four, the next eighty two,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: the next seventy eight, the next sixty six. When he's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: banged up in Oklahoma City. Probably didn't want to be
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: there because there's Oklahoma City eighty one, eighty one, and
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: then since then it's been a dramatic drop off, like dramatic,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: like fifty five sixty seventy two, sixty five sixty Like, Yeah,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: I think the low management thing is gonna be hard.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: I you know, we'll be thrilled to have it back
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: when it comes back in two years. Hopefully I'm more
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: into I just I'm with you right now, like I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: we could do it. We did a whole joking thing
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: on our show. Refused to talk about the NBA unless
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: there's something significant like this, like we're talking about now.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: But I don't care about game. I just don't. I
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: don't care. And I watched the game, and I like,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: I like basketball. Hell, you and I first met we
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: were both covering a team going to the NBA finals, right,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: working for the Jazz flagship. That was a blast. I
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: mean I it was an It was one of the
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: you know, career highlights for a couple of years, you know,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: and then you know, I went to Portland, You went
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: to Portland. We worked and cover the Jay Lasers. That was,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: in its own way, massively fun.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: But the basketball then, I mean I think back, it's like,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: you know, we complained about God, Rashid's not remember our
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: big com playing basketball? Wwise in is why isra she
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: not more assertive? You know, like why is he not?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Why is he so unselfish? Like those were?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Why is like we talked basketball stuff, we don't talk
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: about load management. That was never a conversation.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: Well that's no. And see, those are the issues, and
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: you don't want to have this off the court stuff,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: I mean you really don't. But load management is a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: huge issue. And again I'm saying it from a fan perspective,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: which is it's not it's not cheap. Now, it's not
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: NFL expensive the NBA, but it's probably second most. It's
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: just so expensive for anything. And then you've been you know,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: saving up your money or your parents taking somewhere or
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: whatever the case may be, and then a superstar player
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: is probably not playing that night because the load management
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: or they played you know, five games and seven nights
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: or two games and three nights or three and five
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: or you know. So that's a major issue. The tanking
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: is a major issue because I'm not kidding. Again, like
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: you said, maybe many people don't watch the NBA, but
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: there's about ten to twelve teams tanking this year. I mean,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: flat out not trying to win, and it makes for
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: a disgusting product. I mean, the other night I was
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: watching a game in the Indiana Pacers. You know, they lose,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: they lose the NBA Finals. A couple years ago, they
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: lose Tyres Halibert, and now they've won fifteen games and
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: they're not and they're not even shy about it. I
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: mean what happens is in some sports you got guys
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: coming out there they just flat out like Utah traded
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: for Jaron Jackson junior from Memphis and the next week
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: they're like, yeah, he's got some deviated septum, like really,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: and so they so the NBA doesn't even get involved
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: in it because they say that they put him on
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: the injured list and he can't play periods. So you know,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: there's this and like that's not even the stylistic form
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: of the game. Now it's a three or a free throw,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: you know, And it's terrible acting me. And we just
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: had the Oscars last night. I mean, you see it.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: These guys are.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Flailing all over the court. The referee somehow buy it.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: Like they have so many things to fix about the product.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: And again I don't want to try to sound negative
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: about it, but they have so.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: Much to fix about the product and they've just got
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: a long way to go on it. So look, I'm excited.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: I love having basketball on the West Coast. I love
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: being able to have the rivalry again with Portland. And
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: then you out a Vegas team, and now you're you know,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: now you have this corridor of of West Coast basketball.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a heck of a lot of fun.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: And you get the Sonics back. It's awesome. I think
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: they'll fix this stuff, but they have a lot of
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: work to do in this sport.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully they fix it before in the next year's Buddy,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on. Go get some rest because
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: you're up at one thirty gein in tomorrow morning. If
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: people are doing the graveyard shift, it's it's technically the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: more it's the morning show because it's the morning show
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: on the East Coast and the west Wood one.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: So go check yeah, six to ninety, so three to
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: six in the morning, join me. It's it's lots of fun.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: By the way, over this weekend, I gotta tell you
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: just really fast, tons of calls from Seattle. I told
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: you I'm huge in Tacoma, but actually people from Seattle
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: over the weekend, so very nice. Thank you to your
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: to your many fans.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: Let's keep supporting our guy Line. We'll talk to you
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: next week, buddy, take care.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Brother.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: He there you go.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: That is it.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: That is John Line. Will take a break, come back, Dave.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Softyball next, all right, wrapping things up from the public
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: Casino Hotel Practology Show first four games starting at three
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: forty today with the sixteen games, we'll be watching those
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: up here, because Softy, why would you not want to
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: put some juice on a sixteen versus sixteen matchup?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: Huh?
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 7: I was gonna say, do you really give a damn
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 7: about Howard and Meridon Baltimore County?
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: By the way, I will in about forty about fifty minutes,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: you wells will? You are a complete degenerate, So congratulations?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: You know else is that way? Who's that the kid
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: he's sitting right across. Oh, I love it. The apple
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: does not fall far from the tree. It does not.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: The apple does not fall far. My god, unbelievable.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: I thought we had a conversation Keith fer and I
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 7: to look at you and just do the exact opposite.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: But I guess not. He's kid doesn't learn. Man, Well,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, what do you want from him?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: He looks up to his father, He thinks up like
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of his heroes.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 7: Well, actually, the way that he's sprouted, he might be
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: looking down on you, by the way, with you like
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 7: nine feet tall?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Now, for God's sakes, are you bigger than me?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: It depends on shoes I'm wearing now, it's close.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you like? U MBC or Howard?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna say Howard.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 7: I think we all want Keefer's breakdown of the Mariland
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 7: Baltimore County Howard game.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Go on your thoughts.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: The only thing I know is that I'm gonna say
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: Howard because before I left the house there was a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: random channel on and they were celebrating the HBCUs. Yeah,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: so maybe it's a sign. Maybe it's like, oh, you
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: got Howard here, That's who I'm going with.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know nothing about these two teams. Just let's
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 7: throw a dart at the wall.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: Why not?
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: You know? You know that's why I got I went
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: to Sunday.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 7: I went to Sunday School with a kid named Howard.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: Maybe I'll just take Howard because of that.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: That's why that's why you bet like the first of
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: thirty points, first to twenty points and all that and
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: then and then when you take your lickings, you head
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: on home and go see mom.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah, Well I'm going to Vegas tomorrow night. So
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 7: we're gonna get after.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: It tomorrow night with who are you going with?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: So?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Who are you going with? I can't say secret with
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: rhyme with Nicholson.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: Nope too with a guy him going with their wives
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 7: don't know they're leaving, so whatever, keep that between us.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 7: So well, all right, jeez, you never know, man, the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: one time they are you never know, man, So we
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 7: can Keefer called Tammy by the way, what's the nickname
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 7: that he said that? Uh, the little General.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Correct, don't put that on me. He totally put it
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: on you. He sold your ass out on the show.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: The other day.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: He calls it the little General. Little General. Don't you
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: ever mention that to her? Softy?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 7: I don't know, man, I mean I might have to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 7: hold this over your head for something. Maybe maybe a
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 7: preferred tea time at the mayor this year or whatever.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: I like it coming up.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 7: Let's see, we're gonna head to Miami. We want Devon
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 7: a Chan, by the way, and we want him on
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks. So if they're gonna be giving up Jalen Wattle,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 7: what's it gonna take to get a Chan running the football?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 7: Mark Dockman is going to join us from the w
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: QAM at three point thirty.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: PJ.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 7: Car Lizimo, former head coach of the Seattle SuperSonics, will
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 7: join us today and talk to NCAA Basketball at four
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: o'clock this afternoon, John Wilner at five and before the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 7: crack and take on Tampa Bay. Your buddy Mike you
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 7: Betton coming up from the CPA about six fifteen.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Softy, I can't wait to talk to you
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: later today. That's for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably Inverness.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: This is paddle Day, saying so long everyone,